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  • @lynngay342
    @lynngay342 3 года назад +54

    I purchased my 2022 18M Thor (RIZE) in May of 2021. I love the size, it's loaded but here are the issues we have had. The awning beeped the minute we left the showroom NO ONE had answers and it wasn't batteries (told to replace over and over). It was bad wiring from Thor when installed. The water pump and filter were not secured to the wall. They were just hanging behind walls. The generator stopped working w/only a few hours on it. The gas line was so long it needed a second pump. Additionally, the generator had about a inch clearance. I don't know how this got past me but first trip we found out because I couldn't clear things it easily should. I have spent $400 for awning, $900 for extra generator line pump & labor, $300 to secure filter and pump and will need to spend $3000 to lift it 3 inches. Thor will only pay $225 for labor. So, know what you are getting into with this unit.

    • @sandrastevens2793
      @sandrastevens2793 2 года назад +4

      I have heard from reviews by customer that Thor has building issues. So sorry. You just confirmed for me.

    • @br8eyz012
      @br8eyz012 2 года назад +3

      Ooof. I was thinking of buying this one, but dont think so anymore

    • @Desperado3248
      @Desperado3248 2 года назад +3

      Sounds like the rumors about Thor quality and customer service are true

    • @Desperado3248
      @Desperado3248 2 года назад +4

      A disgrace. Was considering this unit but not now. Apparently the stories of poor Thor quality control and lousy customer service are true

    • @zonacrs
      @zonacrs 2 года назад +2

      Damn, thanks for the checklist. This just blows me away. What the hell happened to quality control and how could Thor/the dealer deliver that in good conscience.

  • @Nini51963
    @Nini51963 2 года назад +1

    I have a adult disabled son with Autism . , I am considering this as a get out of the home vehicle , he needs a bathroom and has accidents and sometimes has challenges transitioning into environment’s, this would enhance our life so much .

  • @getlosttrails
    @getlosttrails 3 года назад +53

    Matt struggling with convoluted sofa beds is always the highlight.

    • @tchrof6th
      @tchrof6th 3 года назад +5

      Haha 😆 yeah he’s the best! #vanlife

    • @newenglandrider3189
      @newenglandrider3189 3 года назад +1

      100%

    • @dorisshanks3404
      @dorisshanks3404 3 года назад +3

      I was in hysterics as Matt struggled with those puzzle cushions. The funniest one yet! Omg!

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +2

      Matt you are so cute working. So hard with the couch. And andrea had a chance to see him.love you guys. Jan from texas.

  • @kimberlyconnolly9
    @kimberlyconnolly9 3 года назад +19

    Fun review, thank you! If Thor is really listening, I think the general consensus from potential buyers like myself is that the clearance under the gas generator is scaring us away. If it came with the lithium option (or somehow an underhood or somehow better placed generator) I would not even hesitate to get this one.

  • @RosasUtopia
    @RosasUtopia 2 года назад +1

    LOL I want this RV but him wrestling with that bed set up was hillarious! He was sweating after...thats going to be me too LOL

  • @Bigcat624
    @Bigcat624 2 года назад +3

    I love you guys energy. Somebody around the corner from me has this one. The only negative for me is like you said no true place for the TV and instead of a microwave I would prefer a confection oven.

  • @culturx841
    @culturx841 2 года назад +1

    Your energy alone would buy from you :)

  • @carlosistribe
    @carlosistribe 3 года назад +76

    These Class B manufacturers need to find a better way to keep the generators placed. The ground clearance is less than a sports car. Either lift the van, or include portable ones. That generator is going to get taken out the second this leaves the pavement.

    • @wizeb8282
      @wizeb8282 3 года назад +3

      Totally agree. I was gonna say ground clearance looks lower than a car!

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +2

      All rigs should be self contained.no generators if possible...i think it also takes oil and gas for the generators.they are just to noisy. Maybe solar would be better....thank you.

    • @ftkinsella
      @ftkinsella 3 года назад +6

      If they won’t put enough solar on the roof to avoid using a generator then put the generator on the roof with a cover like the A/C. Cheers!!!

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +1

      Perfect yep ....wouldnt the. Sound be to noisy. Look at all the city buses. They have everything on the roof. Make the rooftops strong. And well insulated also lightweight to to hold the weight.should be on all r.v.s and class bs. Thank you.

    • @seabliss22
      @seabliss22 3 года назад

      @@janchapman3746 no can do. Even people with the best solar array report that they must use their generator at times. Often the weather or the site will not allow enough sun to do their job.

  • @robertschulke1596
    @robertschulke1596 3 года назад +5

    All the outside hookups for water, waste, propane, and electricity should be under hatches, just like the fuel. Nothing says “I’m sleeping in my van” like RV hookups and accessories all over the place.

  • @krazykeltic8103
    @krazykeltic8103 3 года назад +33

    If I had the cash, this would be my preferred travel vehicle, put a convection microwave in it and a single cup coffee maker would improve it a lot. maybe induction cook top or a split convection/gas stove.

  • @Thesaltymedic36
    @Thesaltymedic36 3 года назад +5

    Like everything about it except how low it is. The generator is going to eat it. If I was a single traveler, this is a win. I’d have to get a lift on it just to get more generator clearance.

    • @NoName-zq6ic
      @NoName-zq6ic 3 года назад

      Yep, needs to be on a Promaster 2500 series lifted about 10 inches with electric steps for all entry doors with step button on key fob.

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +3

      Ford chasis please no ram..thank you just my prefrence.no offence..

  • @robertschulke1596
    @robertschulke1596 3 года назад +21

    I’d like an awning delete option. More interested in low cost and stealth.

  • @sandienochs6132
    @sandienochs6132 2 года назад +1

    Almost every Van refrigerator in Europe, has a door that opens both ways. Get with it!

  • @robertkorynas1919
    @robertkorynas1919 Год назад

    Bought one in July of last year. Had it for 9 months. Been in the shop for 3 out of the 9 months. Leaks, upholstery issues, window issues, screen issues, poor craftsmanship.
    On the plus side, the Ram platform is awesome.

  • @sheilajo5
    @sheilajo5 2 года назад +1

    I like the 18M but would prefer the screen that slides across like in the 18T. I like that there is no television. I prefer streaming on my laptop or tablet. Less is more in my opinion. I would prefer a jacknife sofa or pullout bed not in sections to assemble. Convection oven preferred. I like the bathroom. I like the swivel captain's chairs and lagune table. I would require an inspection and insist all things taken care of before signing.

  • @gordsturm9731
    @gordsturm9731 3 года назад +1

    Leather Jackknife sofa, lithium batteries, under hood generator, on a Ford Transit which has so many more safety features than the Promaster plus an awd option. That would knock it outta park for me. Would pay the extra money for those upgrades...

  • @KWicksable
    @KWicksable 3 года назад +7

    I like that it is small but fully equipped.

  • @tremjar1305
    @tremjar1305 3 года назад +7

    if you leave the back doors open it can be prime pooping position.... cool van for size and price.... agree on tv, i do like having one.

  • @MichaelWacht
    @MichaelWacht 3 года назад +47

    Damn. That ground clearance gonna wreck you.

    • @taita2080
      @taita2080 3 года назад +8

      yea, its pretty scary to think about the generator that low which can trash out in a moment

    • @Antandthegrasshopper
      @Antandthegrasshopper 3 года назад +3

      That has the clearance of my Toyota Prius!

    • @robertschulke1596
      @robertschulke1596 3 года назад +4

      Strictly a street vehicle. Absolutely no dirt roads.

    • @elainecrawford6891
      @elainecrawford6891 3 года назад +2

      I was just going to say the same....😳

    • @phthisics
      @phthisics 3 года назад +2

      The Carado Axion, with the same platform and layout, uses an underhood generator (basically a second alternator attached to the engine) instead.

  • @BradWilson1969
    @BradWilson1969 2 года назад +3

    Watching in April 2022 and the MSRP for this model is currently $102,851, so basically a 20% price increase in one year. I wish I had bought one when they made this video.

  • @richardclark8520
    @richardclark8520 3 года назад +3

    Cassette toilets would better suited for the days gas stations had toilet access outside.

  • @WayneWallace-z8w
    @WayneWallace-z8w Год назад

    This is a great RV for someone who travels alone or with a dog, likes to park on streets in the city while touring, wants the small footprint in parking lots and good gas mileage. As for the driver's view in the front, look at most bus style RVs and you cannot see the front hood, and even the Thor Vegas and Axis have similar views. I don't think this is a negative unless you want a truck style like a class C. I have had several class A from 28 to 37 foot long and finally went to a Class C seven years ago and now am finding I don't want to tow anything behind me. This seems very good for my needs. As for the cassette toilet, I am having to think outside what I am used to with a black tank; however, one thing that makes me think I will like this is the last miles of any journey on my way home. I always try to use the restroom just before leaving the final campground because I will have no place to dump when I get home. This will be much better as I can simply dump this in my home toilet which gives me comfort in knowing I can use the restroom without worry of where I can dump after that last five to eight hour drive home. That's a good reason for the cassette,

  • @sarahj.8372
    @sarahj.8372 3 года назад +3

    For one Person...it is great..especially if you live small town rural and you are putting 3 hrs to visit family all over and bigger shopping is 3 hrs away.. AC, Bath, movable chairs. Like....Convection oven is a miss..some swing arm for TV, easier bed fold out..but a great not long term vamp van but weekender visit,,liver at relatives visit van,,visit family,..personal excursion van. The installed solar and the AC trump the other one completely...if older that tight of an upper is no go..I think the storage above front could handle bedding. You have a pantry and a dressing storage area...fridge and slide out are cool. I think you have some kind of laptop tv maybe..

  • @ideasboutique
    @ideasboutique 3 года назад +20

    Nice job Matt and Andrea! This was very cute, but, I can't do puzzles when I'm tired so the bed would make me insane and I like a spot for a television. I do think no matter the size of the toilet, having one is priceless.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 3 года назад +6

      Having a toilet is 100% mandatory. I don't like using toilets that the general public used. Germs.

    • @ideasboutique
      @ideasboutique 3 года назад +3

      @@TheBandit7613 precisely... and I prefer to deal with that task indoors with a seat, I've got vertigo so my balance can't be trusted.

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +3

      I. Agree.with. you. All. It is vital to have matts poop toilet or i dont buy it. Needs porclain.the couch is absoulety out get another couch .how about a couch bed.pull out to make into a bed.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 3 года назад

      @@janchapman3746 Jack knife sofa would work and be so much easier.

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +2

      Hi chris your right on.i meant a jack knife bed is preferable. Would really be. Better.thank you jan..

  • @nomadicana
    @nomadicana 3 года назад +4

    Was Matt expecting a porcelain cassette toilet?🤣 Did you mention the CCC? Wish you would have talked more about the components - what's under the bed? Is the fresh water tank inside? How much solar was on the roof? Where are the batteries and inverter (would it be easy for the buyer to upgrade to lithium)? This is a perfect layout for a solo traveler - wish they gave the dimensions of the bed without pulling out - curious if it's wide enough to use it like a twin without pulling it out.

  • @eugeniaskelley5194
    @eugeniaskelley5194 3 года назад +3

    I like the fact the fridge is accessible from the outside. You can grab a cold drink or food for cooking out side without tracking dirt in. I wish they could come up with some way to incorporate the front seats ( folding all the way down) to help make part of the bed. Have no idea how you would do it, but would really save on space in a tiny vehicle.

  • @bruceraney1896
    @bruceraney1896 3 года назад +6

    How about a Murphy bed

  • @phthisics
    @phthisics 3 года назад +2

    There are two relevant Facebook pages. One is for the Thor Rize or Scope 18M (Thor seems to use both names and also has an 18T without a bathroom). The other is for the Carado Axion, which has the same layout but different features (such as a marine toilet instead of the 18M's cassette toilet). Lots of discussion of this vehicle on both sites.

  • @zonacrs
    @zonacrs 2 года назад +1

    This is pretty close to perfect for a solo retired camper who does not want to deal with a porta-potty for boon-docking, I'd rather dig a hole or use a NFS latrine. And yes I know a porta-potty is a self contained cassette toilet. Big plus for the old school generator vs. a mega battery bank and solar/under hood charging. Boondocking ready for sure if you don't need to run the AC. Only limitations would be food, fuel and water. Combined with the solar, a few hours a day could keep the batteries topped and cool down the coach while parked. I could easily bounce between our various National Parks here in Arizona just along the Mogollon Rim with short stays at private RV spots or a hotel in between to re-set the 14 day limit before returning home to my home base in Phoenix for the cooler months.
    Full hook up park camping you could load the crap out of it with more cooking gear and a screen room for a home away from home.
    A trailer hitch mounted lockable storage system would ease interior storage issues and clutter for both boon-docking and full hook up camping.
    This is high on my list to escape the Phoenix summer heat and explore/camp the many National Park opportunities we have here in Arizona while maintaining my home base in the valley.

  • @modelmanjohn
    @modelmanjohn 3 года назад +7

    I still think the Winnebago Travato 5G(L) is the best class B today. Big bed, big fridge, big bathroom, its got it all.

    • @maryfraizer9988
      @maryfraizer9988 3 года назад +6

      Bigger van bigger price

    • @gulong612
      @gulong612 3 года назад +2

      Check the Thor sequence or tellaro , you will change your mind

    • @phthisics
      @phthisics 3 года назад

      it's not comparable to this. Only other 18 ft. RVs with a full bathroom are, and with those requirements the only alternative in North America is a used Carado Axion. Of course you have more room in a longer van. Duh.

  • @jeffjackson5533
    @jeffjackson5533 3 года назад +8

    First Matt, Andrea and Will, love your reviews, especially liked your class b change of heart video. I am leaving this comment in the hopes that Thor does read the comments because a few minor changes to this van and it could be the greatest mobile lounge #vanlife short van ever. Similar floor plan to the carrado, which I always found to be super efficient.
    1. Get rid of the generator, in the days of awesome big alternators throw two decent house batteries in, a solar charge controller and an alternator that can charge the batteries while driving and you’ll have all the power you need.
    2. For the sake of Matt, change the sofa to a jackknife, you put them in a lot of your class c’s, it should not add that much weight to put one in this. Most people are not going to full time in this so make the seating comfortable and people can use a mattress topper to make it more comfortable.
    Theses changes would make a huge difference. I love this design, keep up the good work.

  • @souettequinn4663
    @souettequinn4663 3 года назад +22

    As a solo traveler searching for my first RV...I like this for the bathroom and it being 18ft. I think since it would be just me, I'd leave the couch as is, add a topper and make it up like a twin bed & leave it that way.
    I see no real storage for a couple of larger items like a camping chair. Oh...and fat thighs? That would be me...and like the adjustable table.
    All the comments about the low generator are scaring me away though. I don't pretend to know of RV issues but I'm hearing these concerns loud and clear.

    • @justofftheroad8995
      @justofftheroad8995 3 года назад +4

      People are concerned about the clearance when it leaves the pavement...this vehicle is not made to leave the pavement. It is a street vehicle and dirt roads with uneven grading or large holes should be avoided. If you want an off-road Class B van to travel more rustic areas, then look at the Winnebago Revel. It was built for that purpose.

    • @phthisics
      @phthisics 3 года назад +4

      @@justofftheroad8995 And the Revel costs literally twice as much as this.

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +1

      Hi ms. Quin. Matt and andrea is the one to talk to about anything. Contact them.please dont talk to anyone else just them. They are very honest. I myself would not talk to anyone but matt and andrea. You would be worry free with them
      Ground clearance is vitally important for. All of us. Ive got to have the ground clearance or i dont buy. Read all our comments. Everyone is super wonderful. I love everyone here. On matts channel. Im a big fan of everyone here. .....

    • @pammied52
      @pammied52 3 года назад +2

      I was ready to buy! Comments about the generator are scary. But that is covered under warranty?

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +1

      You got that right.

  • @ChristopherDillman
    @ChristopherDillman 3 года назад +5

    Great review! This one just might be the winner for me. Bed in the front, bathroom in the back. 🤘

  • @dwoodygura
    @dwoodygura 3 года назад +1

    I like the refrigerator, I like the swivel front seats, I like the sink in the bathroom that tips as the ones with drain holes don't drain. Dislike how the screen doors are attached, dislike that the one cabinet over the kitchen counter has a bunch of monitors & plugs, dislike the pocket doors that never seem to stay on the tracks.

  • @myhelenlee3387
    @myhelenlee3387 3 года назад +1

    The bed seems complicated. Hope there is a clearer demonstration. Love the bathroom though.

  • @littlerascal6112
    @littlerascal6112 3 года назад +34

    I love Matt fighting with that bed... I was laughing like crazy. Thanks

    • @joycejames8461
      @joycejames8461 3 года назад +7

      Fighting with the screen door was a good warm up too!

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +1

      Way to small for matt. He is use to class c.s. i think..or class a

  • @0AmyK0
    @0AmyK0 3 года назад

    I don't have any dislikes. This is actually perfect for me. The Thor 20K was my favorite floorplan up until seeing this model. The setup is similar, just smaller overall, with a bit less storage. I live pretty minimally, so the storage is fine IMO, and I like the idea of a shorter vehicle, and I like the cassette toilet. So this is everything I want. I saw the model with no shower and no...this one is the best.

  • @PSVitaFan
    @PSVitaFan 3 года назад +8

    Wish it had the volta system with lithium batteries and lots of solar

    • @taita2080
      @taita2080 3 года назад +2

      yea, would have been the best of its kind, I would get it for that and remove the low generator that can explode.

  • @jimdawson2549
    @jimdawson2549 3 года назад +13

    $50 ice tray 👍 Watching Matt make that bed is the best.

  • @paulrowland4082
    @paulrowland4082 3 года назад +3

    Thor this is everything you could ask for in a class B this size! Absolutely beautiful!

  • @mjones7794
    @mjones7794 3 года назад +3

    appreciate your taking the time to show how you fit in the bed. Often, RV reviews show the bed but don't show how someone might fit in it. In this particular model you are right on. Thank you

  • @monicawilson896
    @monicawilson896 3 года назад +1

    I like the side frig and ice tray

  • @60Airflyte
    @60Airflyte 3 года назад +5

    The people driving by are probably wondering why someone is filming a guy on a toilet. 😂

  • @paulrogers5639
    @paulrogers5639 3 года назад +4

    Perfect to travel with pets to keep ac on. Skip generator and 100% battery though. Treat as your car with a bathroom and a coffee maker.

  • @stevenbathurst7027
    @stevenbathurst7027 3 года назад +1

    I don’t like messing with the Pillows to make up the bed. It should be a Murphy bed, they should have a mini slide out to give enough room to get past the bed to go to the bathroom. It would add cost unfortunately. But it is a nice little RV

  • @siramirez7
    @siramirez7 3 года назад +3

    I like that the splash guard for the stove doesn't block the one kitchen window. Can keep the air circulation and cooking smells going out.

  • @pabloflaifel8442
    @pabloflaifel8442 3 года назад +3

    Great for one person

  • @thaisguedes4067
    @thaisguedes4067 3 года назад +6

    Yeeeeeahhhh! Thanks for touring this! I’m in love by this small class B! It’s so cute and so functional! You two are the best

  • @somdeansofficeit6468
    @somdeansofficeit6468 3 года назад +6

    This vehicle seem very well suited for those two night trips to the trailhead and a place to rest after a long mountain hike. Love the bathroom and the refrigerator location. Personally, would never want a TV. Hopefully, Thor keeps on improving on this one as it seems a great design and will appeal to many. Small RVs have come a long way.

    • @dorfrt3508
      @dorfrt3508 3 года назад +1

      But can you reach the trailhead without destroying the generator? I think this is pavement only.

  • @whatswaldoreadingwaldomill7638
    @whatswaldoreadingwaldomill7638 3 года назад +4

    This is one of the better layouts for a Class B. Bed conversion is too much "work." Bath is awesome for this van. W

    • @janchapman3746
      @janchapman3746 3 года назад +1

      I will agree. With. You all. Likes and dislikes. All r.v.s and vans should should be self contained the poop toilet of matts. Well insulated. Tankless water heater. Best a.c. no wood. All metal.no rust

  • @crisb3460
    @crisb3460 3 года назад +3

    Thank You

  • @eskimomosul7132
    @eskimomosul7132 3 года назад +3

    We could toad that bad boy as a Tender for our NewAire ......LOL !!!

  • @richardmanning5314
    @richardmanning5314 3 года назад +5

    Nice van. A bit small for full timing I think.
    A suggestion... Please try to do your videos away from high volume traffic. The highway noise was very distracting.

  • @judit1783
    @judit1783 3 года назад +3

    Matt, read the instructions. I am sure Andrea can read. lol lol Enjoyed the bed assembly. Thanks for the laugh.

  • @seabliss22
    @seabliss22 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for not time laspsing the bed 🤣😂. This van is adorable!!! I'd love it as my daily driver. I would put a tablet sized tv on the pantry wall. It can be viewed while in bed or in the swivel seats.
    Now let's talk about that bed.. Small van equals single person. So why not focus a quality single bed instead of always trying to make it into a queen? 🤷
    I mean, they could have a very comfortable full sized mattress sunken inside the couch. Just toss the cushions up front and roll out your sleeping bag. Or put Velcro on them and stick them to the ceiling 🤔 anyway.. all three of my dislikes are in the bed. There are a thousand other ways to create it if they would just get the queen sized bed out of their builds.

  • @lloydssoundscapes8746
    @lloydssoundscapes8746 3 года назад +5

    WHAT UP MATT AND ANDREA!! Its my Birthday today and Im still watching the latest Matts RV Reviews episode! II never miss it!

  • @agm6095
    @agm6095 3 года назад +2

    Dislikes: I noticed there are electrical outlets in the rear very close to the shower area. If the curtain is not properly sealing the shower area water could splash on the electrical outlets and the cabinets. The bed is a puzzle to make. Very little storage. The truck itself being a front wheel drive Fiat. Price is to expensive for what you get, a small class C is better. Likes: None. Thanks for your review, I really enjoy your honesty.

  • @brianjacobus722
    @brianjacobus722 3 года назад +4

    Love love love the cassette toilet in the rear wish that would come in the other larger ones with the rear bathroom

  • @thedish61
    @thedish61 3 года назад +5

    Hi, Matt & Andrea =)
    Cute unit. I like the bathroom, the counter extension, storage, Lagun table.
    I don't like the "bed", no TV placement (for a TV larger than 17"), the bug screen.

  • @timp1051
    @timp1051 3 года назад +1

    My brother picked his up 2 days ago. He will get alot of use with it. The reviews seem to be generally very positive.

  • @BeccaTheBoring
    @BeccaTheBoring 3 года назад +1

    I like it! No tv isn’t an issue for me, because I tend to watch stuff on my iPad. This would work well for how I camp!

  • @presrob4514
    @presrob4514 2 года назад +2

    Love you guys you have so much energy keep up the good work, & God bless

  • @bambiharzott26
    @bambiharzott26 3 года назад +1

    I like that cabinet style better then the curved look. Why don't they make doors on cabinet open down. ? That way one would have a shelve to get things out or rearrange stuff.

  • @craigo2142
    @craigo2142 3 года назад +5

    I think it is close to perfect for a solo traveler. I would use the bed as a single and not make it out. Maybe just a sleeping bag on it. Generator is too low would be the major issue for me - Can you imagine it on a gravel/rutted road? Needs a custom rolef bug screen. Who needs a big tv with a laptop or iPad? Love the size of the van inside and out!!

    • @zonacrs
      @zonacrs 2 года назад

      Agreed, I would probably never pull out the bed and use it as a single. Also agreed on the tv vs. laptop or tablet, even at 60+ I'd rather do that. Would definitely add a cell signal booster.
      This thing has everything a solo traveler needs except ground clearance. The Promaster chassis has limited lift options due to the tiny wheel wells, particularly the front. You can find "3 inch lift kits" all day long but none of them will clear a 3" taller tire, that nets a 1.5" gain in ground clearance, without offset wheels and major hackery of the front wheel wells.
      The Promaster chassis is limited to grated roads and developed parks unfortunately, so you have to plan accordingly. This short wheelbase 1500 can probably go more places, with caution, than we give it credit for but is limited by the straight rear axle beam and low mounted generator.
      Really wish Ram would up their ground clearance with the chassis. As is, no matter the brand, Promaster based RV's are soft roaders at best.

  • @mrslcom
    @mrslcom 3 года назад +1

    The cabinets and drawers don't have a locking mechanism. That could pose a big problem when cornering. No black tank to deal with is wonderful.

  • @alphpup3281
    @alphpup3281 3 года назад +2

    LOL the bed!

  • @LALew850
    @LALew850 3 года назад +2

    🤔 the bathroom is nice but so many buts. The best part about that bed was watching Matt wrestling with it! 🤣 I really like the cabinetry. I really like the solar, but how well does it work? I really like the awning too.
    The clearance under the generator is worrisome. The screen was not good. No space for a tv? I would not really miss a tv but it seems like there are a lot of people who would. What about connecting to the internet? Did I miss that part is there a Wi-Fi extender? Because no tv and no connectivity is definitely not good. It seems like this needs some tweaking . It’s just too dang short for everything to fit.
    Thanks for another great review!

  • @RockerRed
    @RockerRed 3 года назад +5

    Thank you! Thank you!

  • @maxineoliver7404
    @maxineoliver7404 3 года назад +1

    Hey Matt! And Andrea! I know that Andrea is happy about showing the roof from the inside! 😁A small "Around the "Scope"" skip!🤭 😊1.Push button Awn./Solar/Comfy seats in front-swiv.! 2.Nice Kit.-cab./des/Cool windows! 3.Bth. in the back! 😏1.Cumbersome screen door. 2.Cumbersome seats & cup holders.3.Sink over toilet.

  • @blasebaker
    @blasebaker 3 года назад +1

    I agree with having the bed cushions hooked together. It would be better as one long cushion. Induction burner would be better.

  • @bnrlabs5923
    @bnrlabs5923 3 года назад +1

    why not put the TV on a swingout mount on the wall where the coax is next to the kitchen sink? You can't really sit on that sofa while someone is cooking anyway (kind of an either/or).
    I'm interested in one of these as a working mobile office, and I'd put a TV/monitor with a wireless receiver for laptop signal in that location for sure.

  • @reymustanggt4082
    @reymustanggt4082 3 года назад +3

    1. The fridge is clever
    2. The sofa is a big disappointment
    3. The counter can be a bit narrower to make more room for a wider sofa.
    4. The driving position actually ends up being fantastic after you get used to it
    5. I still prefer a class C!!!

  • @StumpRider719
    @StumpRider719 2 года назад +1

    I like this! It would be nice to have a pop top on a 2500.

  • @phthisics
    @phthisics 3 года назад +2

    Matt complained about this 18M model with the bathroom having less storage space than the 18T model without a bathroom. It seems not to have occurred to him that the space needed to add a bathroom had to come from somewhere.

  • @joeshingler7193
    @joeshingler7193 3 года назад +2

    Nice van very similar to a Coachman van traveller we had. Our sofa was similar to a toy hauler sofa from the garage. You just had to roll the back over and the bed was ready. I'm not good at Tetris either and I would just put the cushions anywhere. I think I would try to change it out.

  • @lloydssoundscapes8746
    @lloydssoundscapes8746 3 года назад +3

    Im failing your butt on setting up that bed! That was comedy! lol # van life!

  • @SabrinaDawn444
    @SabrinaDawn444 3 года назад +10

    I actually love it! Love the colors and the shine. I would be annoyed if they wasted space and money on a TV in here. I would of loved to see if the dog bowl came out for easy cleaning. I also would of loved to see the back cushions off so i could see the size of the bed without building it out. I would consider making it a fixed bed and using the passenger seat as my work/eating area. I thought it had a pretty good amount of storage actually! They did lose points for not adding some small simple storage above the side sliding door. I feel that was a great storage opportunity lost there. Lagoon table is awesome! One concern I have is how low the undercarriage and such is yo the ground. Most of the people that would be drawn to this van will need it higher up.

    • @zonacrs
      @zonacrs 2 года назад +1

      Agree on the ground clearance. Maintained forest service roads and dedicated parks for this one. Unfortunately this chassis has limited lift options due to wheel well restrictions, actual ground clearance comes from larger diameter tires. My bigger concern would be the QC issues others have mentioned in the overall package.

  • @ZX6Rblksheep
    @ZX6Rblksheep 3 года назад +6

    Lol awesome video!! Van life!! Love how everything is compact!

  • @jodij6121
    @jodij6121 3 года назад +4

    I have to say the more i see the new Thor scope the more I think 🤔 that’s cute. How much easier would this be to jet set around the country than a longer than 30 Ft motor home. I like it.

  • @TheRealHecky420
    @TheRealHecky420 3 года назад +5

    80000 is to much. Make these 40k or less and they will become the new generation of family adventure station wagons in America.

    • @michaelmaaba5463
      @michaelmaaba5463 3 года назад +1

      The van itself is about 35k . I’ve been debating building one myself or getting a Thor. The bigger 21ft you can get for about 85k pretty sure the scope will be 75k under. Also would love more transit options.

    • @TheRealHecky420
      @TheRealHecky420 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelmaaba5463 Wow. Ok. For that price I would buy it. This with a tent extension would be amazing.

  • @RVSimpleLife
    @RVSimpleLife 3 года назад +3

    💯 Great video! Appreciate you sharing this! 😊 Happy camping and travels! ⛺️

  • @UYezhan
    @UYezhan 3 года назад +1

    Great floorplan! You can go some beautiful places for the weekends, take a bicycle for example, and stay there with all the comforts.

  • @timgoodsell4053
    @timgoodsell4053 3 года назад +2

    Bathroom is great but that bed is impossible. Good solution would be an integrated tent system that would attach to the door and could be used as a bedroom.

  • @davidcordaro288
    @davidcordaro288 3 года назад +2

    Picked up MyWaggle, thanks for the discount!!

  • @felicededuyo7999
    @felicededuyo7999 3 года назад +1

    I love the bathroom and storage with it. I wish it could also be accessible outside.. Ceramic toilet seat preferably. Convection microwave, please. I love the ref placement. I hate making the bed. Murphy bed available? No sunroof, nor vent? Filter water and water heater can be added? Steel mesh screen Mesh

    • @felicededuyo7999
      @felicededuyo7999 3 года назад

      Induction oven a must.cancel burner. Replace with a trashcan and storage for footwear and beddings. Is it possible to convert rear doors into a uni-lift-Up?

  • @kona_moon6055
    @kona_moon6055 3 года назад +1

    Perfect for solo travelers, and city touring (because not all trips are to national parks).

  • @chrisrowland2223
    @chrisrowland2223 3 года назад +5

    #VanLife
    Likes:
    1) Love the awning and camp side connections
    2) Love the layout and design of the cockpit / driving area
    3) Love the sofa with lagoon table set-up
    Dislikes:
    1) I'm not a fan of the bike rack set-up, I would hit my head a lot with it
    2) Wish it had a bigger fridge and a convection microwave
    3) Wish the cushions were connected like Andrea was talking about

  • @tip2k1
    @tip2k1 3 года назад +2

    Can you get the 18M with the pop-top and no awning? You didn't mention it, so I looked it up, but the toilet is cassette style.
    Missed the pop-out with the specs for us folks that watch on tvs. I would have been so tempted to make many "scope" puns during the review. "The outside looks great, now let's scope out the interior."
    Likes:
    1) size
    2) price
    3) solar included
    Dislikes:
    1) sleeping arrangement
    2) lack of storage space
    3) sink in bathroom. I mean why?

  • @nimeshkadakia1682
    @nimeshkadakia1682 3 года назад +1

    Matt and Andrea thanks so much. You're super amazing. Love your videos, so real, so natural, so funny and friendly and professional.

  • @johnminnott7334
    @johnminnott7334 3 года назад +1

    To have a bath or not to have a bath. That is the question. I still like the one with only an emergency toilet, although I would skip the pop-top as we have no grandchildren. This one is not really amenable to more than one person. The other could easily accommodate a couple. I like the ability to park in a car space. If you have the money I like the one built in Canada best.

  • @richardclark8520
    @richardclark8520 3 года назад +8

    #VANLIFE Class B's are tiny with a big price tag. Apart from that I like em! This one really rocks. #Vanlife

  • @Nanno00
    @Nanno00 2 года назад +1

    I don’t like how the bed setup was. It looked like a big pain in the butt. I didn’t care much for the very limited storage. I think they could have done better on that. I don’t have a 3rd dislike. I liked the bathroom. I liked the kitchen area with the covered cooktop, large enough covered sink and the fridge. I liked all of the windows and the electric awning. Honorable mention was I loved that they thought of Fido!!!!

  • @kandicenagel5257
    @kandicenagel5257 3 года назад +2

    I love this campervan, I live in a condo and need a shorter van to fit in my parking space, this would be perfect. BUT, I would want the 18M with a pop top, I'd like the microwave to be a convection one and I'd also like the option to upgrade to Lithium. I have my fingers crossed these will be possible options down the road. Thanks for the tour!

  • @jimmoore7725
    @jimmoore7725 3 года назад +3

    Agree with your review and comments.

  • @tchrof6th
    @tchrof6th 3 года назад +2

    You know what would be cool? If y’all sponsored, well General RV that is, Kara and Nate! They travel all around and you could let them drive a new class B and they could give reviews if your class Bs and their ease of use! 💗👍

  • @mirares782
    @mirares782 3 года назад +2

    If I become a widow or something else may it not happen I would get this van.

  • @benvernick
    @benvernick 3 года назад +11

    Matt - as a solo traveler I love the size and maneuverability. As a full timer I’d need the lithium option. Do you think it will be offered as an option in the future? That’s the only thing holding me back.

    • @zonacrs
      @zonacrs 2 года назад

      Battle Born has direct replacement 100 amp hour batteries that essentially double the group 31 AGM capacity. May need to upgrade the charge controller. With the onboard generator it is probably all you would ever need provided it stays working and you aren't an energy hog.

  • @monicawilson896
    @monicawilson896 3 года назад +1

    Much better layout than the Sanctuary.

  • @magiheaven-revelation12
    @magiheaven-revelation12 3 года назад +1

    Pros: 1. 18 feet with everything including a bath is bravo.
    2. I like the cabinets they look high class.
    3. the awning is a bonus to me.
    Cons: 1. If there's a cab-over bunk, I would definitely consider to buy one.
    2. I prefer a bigger fridge but for a class b it's acceptable.
    3. I don't know if that's the tow brackets at the back door but it seems too dangerous cause it could hit your head when you try to
    close it. Safety is number one. I would definitely remove it.
    Thanks Matt. Look like you offer the best price to your customers. Hopefully I will contact you someday when I'm ready to buy a RV.

  • @David-jo4gt
    @David-jo4gt 3 года назад +5

    With the trouble you had and you are a professional. I would not touch this one,