Playing Modern Games on a Hard Drive (HDD) in 2024…

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Gaming on an old 7200RPM HDD isn't as bad as I thought, at least not with the selction of games I chose today.
    0:00 Intro
    0:59 Starfield
    1:59 Cyberpunk 2077
    2:45 Alan Wake 2
    3:30 Baldur's Gate 3
    4:44 Counter-Strike 2
    5:28 Spider-Man
    6:05 The Last of Us
    6:40 Final Thoughts
    Thanks for watching :)
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  • @cstubed
    @cstubed 4 месяца назад +1426

    RandomGaminginHDD 😄

  • @nathanddrews
    @nathanddrews 4 месяца назад +761

    Fun anecdote, back in like 1999 when playing Unreal Tournament I discovered that I could *halve* my map loading times and increase my frame rate by moving certain game assets from one drive to another, then modifying the INI files to point to the correct paths. It actually worked with almost all Unreal Engine games for about 10 years. Once SSDs went mainstream, I stopped doing it.

    • @tz8785
      @tz8785 4 месяца назад +145

      Sounds like a manual RAID 0 with striping at file level.

    • @blunderingfool
      @blunderingfool 4 месяца назад +38

      Okay that's seriously interesting, don't suppose you could give a mini-tut on that? I really want to know how that works. =D

    • @nathanddrews
      @nathanddrews 4 месяца назад +101

      @@tz8785 Pretty much! My PC at the time had a couple hard drives. I already knew that storing files, applications, and Windows on separate drives increased overall snappiness and performance, so when I was poking around in the UT99 INI files to customize graphics settings, I noticed that game assets were stored in their own directories (textures, sounds, etc.) and referenced as root in the INI. It is honestly as simple as copying the directory you want (ex: Texture) to another drive, then changing the path in the INI from root to whatever drive you placed it in.

    • @joyphobic
      @joyphobic 4 месяца назад +6

      doubling the loading time doesn't sound good 😅

    • @DaveOJ
      @DaveOJ 4 месяца назад +42

      They definitely meant halving. ​@@joyphobic

  • @nexalight599
    @nexalight599 4 месяца назад +467

    For starfield there's a mod that pretty much fixes the HDD issues called "disk cache enabler"

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  4 месяца назад +108

      Ah will have to try that!

    • @MrWayne6363
      @MrWayne6363 4 месяца назад +10

      Starfield is another story entirely. But, like Cyberpunk, I think it will improve with age.

    • @hbibbekir
      @hbibbekir 4 месяца назад +57

      @@MrWayne6363 with community made mods not bethesda fixing it cuz they never do unlike cdpr

    • @gregdaweson4657
      @gregdaweson4657 4 месяца назад +23

      I can play cyberpunk at Max settings on a wd caviar from 2009. People who say hdds are dead or irrelevant are either impatient, PeTuLaNt, or don't have enough ram.

    • @youtubeisgarbage900
      @youtubeisgarbage900 4 месяца назад +19

      ​@@hbibbekircyberpunk still sucks quit defending it

  • @DaiAtlus79
    @DaiAtlus79 4 месяца назад +233

    now for Baldur's Gate 3, there IS a section in the settings called 'Old HDD Mode' for if you use a spinning disc drive!!

    • @Mitsuoxx
      @Mitsuoxx 4 месяца назад +18

      Yes and it works perfect! Awesome game

    • @DaiAtlus79
      @DaiAtlus79 4 месяца назад +36

      @@Mitsuoxx that game is more optimized than people realize. its playing on the wifes rig - i7 2600 S, 16gb DDR3, and a 640sp RX550 4gb with a 4tb WD Blue HDD and its nice, mind you for speed it's running in 1366x768 but it flies at that speed!!!

    • @yewtewbstew547
      @yewtewbstew547 4 месяца назад +13

      @@DaiAtlus79 I don't know how much it has improved with updates, but on launch day it was very well optimized in act 1, floundered a bit on the CPU side in parts of act 2, and then CPU performance dropped off a cliff in act 3. CPUs that were managing a consistent 100+ FPS in act 1 were being dropped into the 30's in act 3. It was never too bad on the GPU side afaik.

    • @DarkBowser64
      @DarkBowser64 4 месяца назад +6

      Indeed, this helps so much. It offloads your reliance on your storage media by storing frequently used data in RAM or VRAM that is not being used and making sure only to dismiss from RAM or VRAM that which is not often being used anymore if you should happen to change areas or something like that, so anything new that DOES have to load from discs is mostly just smaller files that don't take as long.

    • @09Cat800
      @09Cat800 4 месяца назад +1

      Came to say this exact thing

  • @NiCO-jo2vh
    @NiCO-jo2vh 4 месяца назад +95

    HDD´s are still valuble. I can store so many games for emulation on it or multimedia files like music or movies.
    Still pretty good.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  4 месяца назад +28

      Yeah perfect for storing lots of stuff for little money :)

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад +17

      Yeah also great for archiving your game library if you fill your SSD instead of needing to do a full download if you want to play again

    • @jtenorj
      @jtenorj 4 месяца назад +4

      @@shaneeslick This is especially nice if the speed of your internet connector is, shall we say, not great.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад +5

      @@jtenorj Yeah even with reasonable internets,
      I have Optic Fiber to the house with Unlimited Data & reasonable DL speeds up to 50mbps ($59AUD Basic plan but could pay more for faster) down here in Australia, so amount of Data is no problem & speed is decent but even so it still can't compete with 150mbps+ from HDD.

    • @AntiGrieferGames
      @AntiGrieferGames 4 месяца назад +2

      Emulation is big Win for HDD

  • @rebelscum1925
    @rebelscum1925 4 месяца назад +373

    The reason spider-man runs so well on a HDD is because the game was originally designed for the PS4 which had a 500GB HDD

    • @nando3d491
      @nando3d491 4 месяца назад +59

      The same with TLOU Part I. The assets are new, but the game structure is still the same as on the PS3.

    • @TheJoe971
      @TheJoe971 3 месяца назад +27

      More specifically, a 5400rpm hdd. It's crazy that both Sony and MS didn't even go with a 7200rpm.

    • @xorxpert
      @xorxpert 3 месяца назад +5

      this doesn’t mean anything. if a game requires a SSD, it has bad performance and or not very efficient

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@TheJoe971"money" - Mr krabs

    • @PersonausdemAll
      @PersonausdemAll 3 месяца назад +1

      Nice Jedi Knight picture

  • @yardnuk
    @yardnuk 4 месяца назад +217

    Oh sheesh, 3:35 is giving me flashbacks to running GTA V on 4GB of RAM lol

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  4 месяца назад +38

      Haha I’ve tried that too

    • @yardnuk
      @yardnuk 4 месяца назад +6

      @@RandomGaminginHD Do you reckon an SSHD would be better for gaming? Typically they only have a small amount of NAND flash (like 8GB or so), but I wonder if it would make a difference.

    • @Boogie_the_cat
      @Boogie_the_cat 4 месяца назад +20

      ​@@yardnukwell when games are more than 100gb I dunno if 8gb of NAND would help a lot.

    • @yardnuk
      @yardnuk 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Boogie_the_cat Fair point.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 4 месяца назад

      @@Boogie_the_cat when games are over 100GB, you need all the space you can get, hence anything that is not frequently played (at 100GB+) goes onto my WD Purple 6TB HDD. Not everything will fit on a 1TB or 2TB SSD, and of course prices have gone up since they dropped to their lowest (£35 for 1TB NVMe!).

  • @gnulectures
    @gnulectures 4 месяца назад +91

    Bit of a random comment, but I've watched this channel for quite a few years and I really like your simple style of editing, no loud background music, flashy text etc.
    Also idk any other tech RUclipsr who films out in their garden. Definitely adds a homely vibe to the content 👌

    • @DirranProductions
      @DirranProductions 4 месяца назад +5

      It's why I stick around.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад +4

      BudgetBuildsOfficial is another UK Tech Channel also films in his backyard

    • @DanteToska
      @DanteToska 4 месяца назад +1

      GreenHamGaming films outdoors sometimes

    • @gnulectures
      @gnulectures 4 месяца назад

      @@DanteToska oh yeah, he does! 😎

  • @hrishikesh4284
    @hrishikesh4284 4 месяца назад +79

    You make the most calming videos lol

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  4 месяца назад +19

      Thanks 😁

    • @ej_tech
      @ej_tech 4 месяца назад +1

      Christopher Frost Photography is even more calm and also UK based, but for camera lenses.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 4 месяца назад +3

      Calming?Those stutters are rage inducing.

  • @Stringypigeon
    @Stringypigeon 4 месяца назад +76

    Older/less intense games on the HDD, newer/intense perf games on m.2 NVME. HDDs still have a place in gaming, it just depends on what you are playing! Cyberpunk was the surprising one. It ran like a dream!

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 4 месяца назад +10

      yeah for me it goes:
      OS: NVMe SSD
      High performance and regularly played: NVMe SSD (a separate one)
      High performance, not regularly played, not large: SATA SSD
      Regularly played, not high performance: SATA SSD
      Not regularly played, not high performance: WD Purple HDD
      Not regularly played, large: WD Purple HDD (regardless of performance or developer recommendations)

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад +7

      @@TheSpotify95 Yeah now I have a B550 with 2 M.2 I did similar...
      128GB Gen3 M.2 OS, I like having OS seperate so if it crashes I don't lose everything
      2TB Gen4 for newer & most played games
      1TB HDD for GOG Retro Games
      & 3TB HDD Storage for archiving Games I am not currently playing, so If I do feel like it I can just transfer back to M.2 Library so much faster than redownloading.

    • @Stringypigeon
      @Stringypigeon 4 месяца назад +3

      @@shaneeslick same! I recently got another 1tb m.2 specifically for games in the second slot. Just the OS on the first one now. I think we've got a nice balance of it!

    • @hrayz
      @hrayz 4 месяца назад +5

      That's how I'm setup too.
      My 2TB M.2 has the games that really need it. Everything else is on my games 8TB HDD.

  • @JDpewpew
    @JDpewpew 4 месяца назад +25

    This is so niche and specific video idea 😂 I love it!

  • @Adaminkton
    @Adaminkton 4 месяца назад +53

    I still use a HDD for all my games from > 2018. And fun fact some very old games had mission info presented during loading, and the only way to see it now is to use an HDD as anything faster skips them.

    • @gnrtx-36969
      @gnrtx-36969 3 месяца назад +7

      True gta iv on my ps3 loaded way slower than my nvme lap and I really wanna listen to that loading music

    • @ultimate_miner64
      @ultimate_miner64 3 месяца назад

      @@gnrtx-36969 I installed IV on my HDD for this reason haha

    • @OutlawedPoet
      @OutlawedPoet 3 месяца назад +2

      I keep my COD collection installed on my HDD since I'm an avid zombies player and those games take up a LOT of space with all of the DLC installed and aside from the initial loading screens, they all work flawlessly. I wouldn't keep a game I actively play installed on my HDD, but they're just irreplaceable for that bulk storage.

  • @DylRicho
    @DylRicho 4 месяца назад +48

    To be fair, this is one of the slowest HDDs on the market; even worse that it's heavily used. My WD Red Pro that I use for my games isn't limiting me at all. Seagate's obsession with SMR is what got me to switch from them.

    • @oz7586
      @oz7586 4 месяца назад +3

      Might as well see the worst case scenario

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 4 месяца назад +14

      I wouldn't say a Seagate Barracuda is the slowest, it's 7200RPM instead of 5400RPM.
      I'd probably recommend a WD Red or Gold. Probably not the Black, because although it performs the best, it runs hot, and fails due to running hot. The Purple is OK but not the fastest, the Blue is probably OK for general storage, and the Green is a budget drive which I wouldn't use as a primary drive.

    • @DylRicho
      @DylRicho 4 месяца назад

      @@TheSpotify95 ​ RPM doesn't mean much by itself. The tiny cache will dramatically affect performance. SMR also hinders performance and reliability. It's akin to companies like Kingston swapping out the memory controllers in their SSDs, but only doing it after reviews of the original products have given them favorable recommendations.
      Specifically, this drive is from 2011 and it's also used. You can't expect to fairly and accurately showcase hard drive performance in gaming on 13-year-old second-hand storage. It's a little disingenuous to those who might watch this and decide that a brand-new hard drive will perform equally poor. Things have improved a lot since 2011.
      I have a very similar drive (ST3500418AS) still in use with half as many hours on it, and it performs 1/5 of my WD Red Pro.

    • @DylRicho
      @DylRicho 4 месяца назад

      @@TheSpotify95 I wanted to add some test results from my three drives using the 64-bit version of CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4.
      The format of the data is as follows:
      - SEQ1M Q8T1 read / write
      - SEQ1M Q1T1 read / write
      - RND4K Q32T1 read / write
      - RND4K Q1T1 read / write
      4 TB WD Red Pro, WD4003FFBX (25,253 hours)
      - 214.94 / 212.97
      - 214.02 / 214.12
      - 2.88 / 5.69
      - 1.19 / 5.71
      1 TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14, ST1000DM003 (66,714 hours)
      - 176.66 / 170.43
      - 175.07 / 173.27
      - 2.06 / 1.84
      - 0.68 / 1.47
      500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12, ST3500418AS (63,527 hours)
      - 41.82 / 41.5
      - 41.84 / 41.52
      - 0.71 / 1.41
      - 0.67 / 1.4

    • @DylRicho
      @DylRicho 4 месяца назад

      @@TheSpotify95 Okay, I replied to you, but my comments are not showing.

  • @SonicTheHedgehogDXZ
    @SonicTheHedgehogDXZ 4 месяца назад +32

    I ended up getting a 512GB SSD for those games that wont run well on my 3TB of HDD.
    Not ready to let then go yet specially with the rising prices of SSDs lately.

    • @strixgaming9463
      @strixgaming9463 4 месяца назад

      Same here.

    • @UmiZoomR
      @UmiZoomR 3 месяца назад

      Maybe if you're outside EU but you dont need to buy every mint just saying

    • @05DonnieB
      @05DonnieB 3 месяца назад +1

      You can buy 2TB SSD's for less than $100. Also, you can transfer data to an SSD

    • @darthpotwet2668
      @darthpotwet2668 3 месяца назад

      50 quid for 1tb ssd is pretty good

  • @kian9108
    @kian9108 4 месяца назад +13

    I mainly use my HDDs for storing roms for emulation and for games pre 2015. For example the batman arkham games run very well and has most loading screens hidden with animations.
    Also battlefield V because no matter how fast you load in you're still gonna have to wait for all other players to join.
    Good video!

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 месяца назад

      Yeah I run my GOG games off HDD, I download the DRM Free versions so I can play them on my XP PC + CRT

    • @danielkowalski7527
      @danielkowalski7527 3 месяца назад +2

      @@shaneeslick crt.... poor eyes....

  • @sir.fender6034
    @sir.fender6034 4 месяца назад +8

    Great video. I still use HDD's often. I use a 4-bay NAS with 4 8tb HDD's and then I have attached 2x 1TB NVME's for read only high speed data caching over a 10 gigabit connection. When I play a game from Steam, the data contents will pull from HDD's into NVme for super fast load times. When data needs to be written back to the host, the data is then sent to the HDD's. I am experimenting with Live Access data streaming for all my server needs but I need better CPU's for threaded task.

  • @VitisCZ
    @VitisCZ 3 месяца назад +4

    Old games usually used to use a big archive file or multiple big archives for the assets which made them being in one long sequential block of data on an HDD together with a HDD friendly data layout of the assets inside of the archive which really helped a lot since HDD is mostly fast when doing long sequential reads but with SSDs going mainstream they just stopped optimizing the game files since SSD doesn't suffer speed penalty due to data locality. Some pretty modern game that still do this optimization is for example capcom games like monster hunter world where you got a "chunk" folder that has the archives with game assets and the biggest one is 42GB in a single file.

    • @revialle5434
      @revialle5434 2 дня назад

      Capcom games are really well optimized, unfortunatrly DD2's release was a dumpster fire which makes me feel worried for MH Wilds, which will be running on the same RE engine

  • @intellex551
    @intellex551 4 месяца назад +8

    The company I work for has a ton of old 5400rpm laptops. I keep telling them that just cloning them to super cheap SSDs would make the experience so much better ( we all use an rds server) but they seem to want to pointlessly upgrade everything.

    • @fajaradi1223
      @fajaradi1223 4 месяца назад

      Looks like ... Somebody is getting kickback from all those purchase orders.

  • @dinglebop9998
    @dinglebop9998 4 месяца назад +1

    The first time i played BG3 was on a HDD. Most of the intro/tutorial was fine, but that cutscene where the ship crashes had my character T-posing in the most dramatic background of the fall down to the ground

  • @blackshark.69
    @blackshark.69 Месяц назад

    you make very down to eath videos caring for budget gamer . thank you

  • @ErraticPT
    @ErraticPT 4 месяца назад +6

    Surprisingly the only game I found to absolutely need (instead of just running better with) a SSD was Starbound.
    A game with block/pixilated graphics and otherwise could run on a potato of a PC, it appears the game streams all assets one by one and doesn't cache anything at all. This leads to constant stuttering on slow HDD and resulting framerates in single figures, switch to even a cheap SATA SSD and the game is buttery smooth on decade's old PCs.

  • @giga_bomber
    @giga_bomber 2 месяца назад

    Great video. Just updated my pc and needed more storage so I decided to pick up a 4tb 7200rpm drive for installing my games and storing media. For $50, it's plenty of storage which helped with the budget.

  • @xdizzle0460
    @xdizzle0460 2 месяца назад +2

    I still have my hdds from 2015-2018. Ive always just added drives and never taken any away. Never had a single problem.

  • @normanchiu847
    @normanchiu847 4 месяца назад +1

    Hopefully you can do this test again on a more recent hdd. I know hdds from 10 plus years ago only reach 70mbs to 100mbs transfer rate but more recent hdds can reach speeds od 250mbs nowdays. Thanks for all the videos its always fun to watch these.

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 4 месяца назад +1

    Good video. Do a follow up video with a VelociRaptor 10 000rpm sata drive that has a large heat sink on it.

  • @GrabASpriteB
    @GrabASpriteB 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a 256gb SSD boot drive and for games that need it, but everything else runs on a relatively recent 2tb Seagate Barracuda. It was like $60 shipped and much cheaper than SSDs at the time. They're not terrible and work pretty well for everything but the specific games that need them. But for most of my games, videos, photos, and my cluttered downloads folder, it works fine and I only end up waiting a few more seconds if that in FPS games. Singleplayer games do take a little bit to load but the key is not to die and have to restart the level.

  • @saadhero9107
    @saadhero9107 4 месяца назад

    Great video! I was hoping you would use crystal disk to showcase the speed of the drive.
    I tend to throw more simpler games on an HDD

  • @TheG_Boy
    @TheG_Boy 2 месяца назад +3

    Wait was i not supposed to use HDD this whole time???

  • @MarshallRawR
    @MarshallRawR 4 месяца назад

    0:14 Legend says he's still spinning while getting that b-roll

  • @sannyassi73
    @sannyassi73 4 месяца назад

    I've still got a couple old HDDs in my rig, a 1TB and a 2TB, though I use them less and less, they're just so slow, my 3TB of SSD is where everything goes anymore- it's surprising we could ever put up with these slow hard drives! I do love collecting them- the discs inside are very pretty, love the polished chrome discs- I use them for a few things and it's always fun to wonder, what information is my model car sitting on? That's mainly what I use them for, display bottoms for trinkets I want to show off.

  • @Lonewanderer30
    @Lonewanderer30 3 месяца назад +7

    You're using an ancient HD, that's really skewing the results. The larger drives are so dense they achieve read speeds of 250 to 300 MB's a second.

  • @camjohnson2004
    @camjohnson2004 3 месяца назад +1

    Love your videos. First off if the HDD you showed in the B roll is the HDD you used for these tests you're off to a bad start. That drive has a max speed of around 132MB/s (i have the exact same one as a backup drive i use before wiping a customers PC if it needs a format). If you were going to use a HDD in 2024 i'd recommend at least a Ironwolf drive or better, these drives have a max transfer speed of between 210 and 250MB/s with lower access times than the model you have shown. I have multiple Ironwolf drives in my NAS in RAID and they are quite capable of transfer speeds of 500MB/s in this config,
    That said, even a Crucial BX series drive with no DRAM cache is better than even the best single HDD

  • @bigeststarspark
    @bigeststarspark 4 месяца назад +2

    I currently play baldurs gate 3 on hdd - yes it takes some time to load the textures, but then it's completely fine and playeble

  • @m3gAnac0nda
    @m3gAnac0nda 4 месяца назад

    Amazing content

  • @DumbleDank1337
    @DumbleDank1337 4 месяца назад

    i still have a spinny boy in my system although i only use it to store games i am not currently playing but want access to so when i do come to play them i can just move it to my m.2, my internet is kinda ass so it helps, would i run games off it? probably not i like the quick m.2 load times but the spinny boy still has a place in some systems

  • @mrb6094
    @mrb6094 4 месяца назад

    There used to be a thing called "short stroking" for hard drives. Storing data in specific areas of the disc for faster access.

  • @pcracinggames
    @pcracinggames 3 месяца назад +3

    6:13 "go on, i'll pretend i don't see you"

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 4 месяца назад +1

    these are still good for putting videos and films on or back ups.

  • @orosztamas1158
    @orosztamas1158 3 месяца назад

    besides the point but can you share settings+resolution for cp2077? have the same pc :)

  • @NitrousXProductions
    @NitrousXProductions 3 месяца назад +2

    Main issue that HDDs face is the shaders to be loaded into memory. It takes awhile to load in. But once they are loaded in most cases they will run ok. I run most of my library on SSDs. But for cold storage I'll move my older titles I don't play on to HDDs.

  • @Mobedan
    @Mobedan 4 месяца назад +7

    I had same texture and sound delay bugs in Alan Wake 2 with game installed on SSD. This game is just broken sometimes.

  • @diegoescalante4503
    @diegoescalante4503 3 месяца назад

    Quite funny to think now we making hhd tests when ive been using a laptop hdd that i had laying around as my extra storage and never encontered many issues

  • @jhopkins1515
    @jhopkins1515 4 месяца назад +2

    I have also noticed that SSD prices are starting to go up. 6 months ago I purchased one 1 TB 2.5 drive for $35.2 2 TB NVMEs for 65 each. Today the cheapest I can find used is nearly 50 for onetb and $100 for 2tb

    • @UmiZoomR
      @UmiZoomR 3 месяца назад

      Seems cheap enough

  • @bambuskaffee9768
    @bambuskaffee9768 4 месяца назад +1

    In the early days of ps4 i made an upgrade to an sshd with 8gb flash and 1tb hdd. Wonder how the sshd will perform on modern games.

  • @DeathBaseTURBO
    @DeathBaseTURBO 4 месяца назад

    I can't recall, Did you do a video about ratchet and clank rift apart on a hard drive, using directstorage to speed up the load times

  • @theSHOK5555
    @theSHOK5555 4 месяца назад

    Can you test new games on SATA SSDs? I'm curious to see if there's a difference between them and NVMe drives

  • @micksterminator3
    @micksterminator3 4 месяца назад

    I upgraded from my x58 build to a 10 series i7. It only came with a 512gb nvme ssd so I bought a WD 3tb refurbished external HDD directly from them. It performs great with what I've tried. Def gonna invest in a 2tb nvme ssd in the future.

  • @SOREI
    @SOREI 3 месяца назад

    I was gaming on a 7200RPM drive for years up until last year lol, complete breath of fresh air. I was even using that 7200RPM with my old RTX 2070/R5 3600 build. I'm now using an NVMe with my RTX 4070/R5 5600 build. The loading times are insane and I'm baffled as to why I never upgraded to an NVMe in the past. I've always had my OS on a SATA SSD though.

  • @TheLastLineLive
    @TheLastLineLive 4 месяца назад

    I only use nvme SSDs nowadays, but I do have an 8tb external hdd that my emulation stuff is tied to as well as my movies and shows and such, it does the job well with that.

  • @aku2dimensional
    @aku2dimensional 4 месяца назад

    I used to run a WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB in an old office machine, most games I played weren't very demanding, but they did have long loading times and stutters. I had grown tired of waiting for Fallout 4 to load both vanilla and modded games so I switched to a Crucial MX500 1TB and I kept my old drive for storage. It was a large improvement, although using an HDD wasn't a bad experience for me overall. I used that MX500 for a couple more years until F4 had over 350GB of mods on top of my other games and upgraded to a WD Black SN850X 2TB. There wasn't much improvement between 6GB/s Sata and NVMe Gen 3 but guess I'm one of the cool kids now.

  • @infinity2z3r07
    @infinity2z3r07 4 месяца назад

    Do frame caps have any effect on the worst scenarios like Starfield and Baldur's Gate?

  • @cxlciummmiv
    @cxlciummmiv 3 месяца назад +1

    My almost 5 year old 1TB HDD has died. I never had an ssd and let me tell you, after getting a nv2 one it feels like magic. Though rn my pc’s screen randomly goes black and the fans spin really fast and the pc won’t boot into windows no more. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I’m suspecting that my gpu might be dying aswell.

  • @JaiLeeroy
    @JaiLeeroy 4 месяца назад

    I think it comes down to the cache of the hard drives. Really can blur the line between ssd and hdd. Especially hybrid drives which I believe are still cheaper than ssd

  • @agak229
    @agak229 3 месяца назад

    I actually played through baldurs gate 3 on similar tier hdd and that was the breaking point for me to permanently move to ssd

  • @davidk5586
    @davidk5586 4 месяца назад +2

    I store on the SSD some of the games which I play often, the others are sitting on a 7200rpm HDD. 🤘

  • @guidobyfredo
    @guidobyfredo 3 месяца назад +2

    I installed valorant on 320GB 2.5 laptop HD and when it finishes loading its already 1 minute into game.

  • @Xyzex
    @Xyzex 4 месяца назад

    My 2018 laptop is probably one of the last gens of laptop that uses HDD as standard issue internal storage device. And I did played Cyberpunk 2077 there.

  • @Aips.
    @Aips. 3 месяца назад +1

    I am one of the owners of a slow HDD. In Helldivers 2 when I first land on a mission all the partners and my character are just flying guns. And the dude standing by the galaxy map is usually just a flying head.

  • @masiosareanivdelarev562
    @masiosareanivdelarev562 4 месяца назад

    Interesting video.

  • @2handsome398
    @2handsome398 3 месяца назад +1

    I use a 1tb SSD paired with a 5tb hdd. SSD for the OS and modern games, hdd for storage and emulated games. A modern hard drive is more than fast enough for disc based consoles like GameCube or even PS3 since that thing was limited to Sata 1 speeds.

  • @predragignjatovic6361
    @predragignjatovic6361 4 месяца назад

    Can you make 1080p locked 30fps build, for console like experience? I want to make it too for nostalgia, but i am qurious to see what components you would pick.

  • @soniccdx
    @soniccdx 4 месяца назад

    wonder what would the resukts have been if u had used one of those 10k rpm drives ..

  • @truesyner2009
    @truesyner2009 3 месяца назад

    If I run 3 HDDs in RAID 0, it matches the speeds of a SATA SSD. So is it feasible? I do tend to have a lot of HDDs from my old PCs.

  • @captainRakiib
    @captainRakiib 4 месяца назад

    just what i was looking for.

  • @RoyHess666
    @RoyHess666 3 месяца назад +3

    Imagine standing in your back yard, holding a HDD in your hand, filming it and slowly turning for 5 minutes - Worship that silver shiny thing - Neighbor probably 😀

  • @ghostnike901
    @ghostnike901 4 месяца назад +3

    I got an HDD as 1 0f 6 storage drives. Mostly for media but It does fine for emulated games too. I have had 2 fail on me but they lasted through years of use and abuse. Wouldn't recommend buying one these days unless you're building a system for someone you hate lol.

  • @Sunlight91
    @Sunlight91 4 месяца назад

    I'm now using SSDs for 10 years. My first one, the MX100 256GB is still the Windows 10 boot drive which I occasionally use. Mostly though I have become a Linux user since W11 was released.

  • @RobertT1999
    @RobertT1999 3 месяца назад

    Crazy timing on this video for me. It was only last night where I told my friends that I probably won't buy Helldivers 2 as it recommends it to be installed on an SSD.
    I had experience with Tekken 8 being on a HDD until I eventually moved it over to my SSD due to long loading times as well as massive audio desync issues related to cutscenes slowing down (it was so bad that if I paused the cutscene after it finally loaded in the next part of the game, I could watch the cutscene catch up to the audio in the background).
    But since then and me noticing the recent trend of an SSD being part of the recommended specs, I've realised I need to heavily invest into replacing my HDDs with SSDs because my boot SSD is not comfortably large enough.

  • @kimsoderholm9101
    @kimsoderholm9101 2 месяца назад

    I play ratchet and clank rift apart and horizon forbidden west on my 5500 rpm apple laptop hdd and i am super suprised coming from an nvme that even the first jumping through dimensions isnt taking more than maybe 3 seconds more to load the first time, the 2nd time around it loads instant just like the nvme so a 2nd playthrouh is even better on an hdd when all shaders are compiled and so on

  • @korisnik4888
    @korisnik4888 4 месяца назад

    Just interesed did you run windows off the hdd or?

  • @Vanny_Dorito
    @Vanny_Dorito 4 месяца назад

    would have been interesting to see how it handles Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart with the portals.

  • @n0viewers409
    @n0viewers409 3 месяца назад

    BG3 has a slow HDD setting you can enable.

  • @stobeznog878
    @stobeznog878 4 месяца назад

    When i played cyberpunk on hdd it often failed to play SFX on time, so i could go into a cop chase and have the enemy alert sound, radio dispatch and police siren play all at once and it was annoying as hell, however weird thing is that i havent noticed any of that in dogtown where the game should be far more intensive

  • @Monarchias
    @Monarchias 4 месяца назад

    I hope we get a Part 2 of this video. As these days everyone is going for an nvme drive, there is a probability that 2 or 4 or even 6 sata connections are free. What if we use more than 1 HDD in a similar scenario? How better a raid0, raid1, etc drives would perform in these same games? We should expect a better performance, isn't it? But how better that would be? And as the market flooded with even sata2 drives, how different it would be with sata3 and sata2 raid volumes? Please, make a Part2 with these specs. Greetings to you.

  • @cb7rider18
    @cb7rider18 4 месяца назад

    is hdd being used with operating system ? or is their a ssd and games on hdd ?

  • @FireFalcon
    @FireFalcon 4 месяца назад

    So SSD caches and HDD Modes are required for many larger 2023+ releases

  • @berserkfury101
    @berserkfury101 3 месяца назад

    One major caveat with Cyberpunk re HDD mode it dramatically reduce crowd sizes if you notice the streets in the video were essentially empty.

  • @trackingdifbeatsaber8203
    @trackingdifbeatsaber8203 3 месяца назад

    Was windows on a ssd?
    Had a system awhile back and i got an SSD and reinstallled windows on it. Games running of the hard drive where slower at. Loading and sometiems stutterd but most games when the os was on tbr same drive where dire. Specs where gtx 1050 ti r3 1200 1 x 8gb ddr4.
    On my current setup r9 5900x + rx 7800 XT something like ark survival ascended is unplayable imo on a HDD due to stuters like starfiled especially when flying

  • @KimBoKastekniv47
    @KimBoKastekniv47 4 месяца назад

    I was a gamer on a budget 10 years ago, but still went for an SSD, haven't looked back ever since.

  • @naxzed_it
    @naxzed_it 3 месяца назад

    I had to switch to an SSD about a month after building my PC because some games I played had audio issues because of it?? Fortnite when I tried playing it bluescreened and wouldn't load a lot of the time with a HDD.

  • @GeisemoOUTATIME
    @GeisemoOUTATIME 3 месяца назад

    in cyberpunk the roads arent the only thing missing on my side, sometimes the whole city and i end up falling through the map, landing on water, making me load a save and taking 20 min to load, yea next paycheck the first thing to buy will be an m2 ssd

  • @certs743
    @certs743 4 месяца назад

    Interesting. I have been using a combination of an SSD for my OS and a large capacity HDD for games and files on my PC. The HDD is an industrial class one so that might impact things too.
    So far I have had no real issues that I can trace back to the HDD. Also running Linux so I don't know for sure if that matters either.

  • @douglasbarr213
    @douglasbarr213 4 месяца назад

    I am currently running an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X with a Radeon RX6700XT and a 1tb Boot NVMEx4 drive but my game storage is a 2tb Toshiba 7200 HDD with 128mb. Cache and I have not noticed any artifacting or glitches with any of the games I play. Having said that I do not have access to Cyberpunk nor any of the ones you experience the glitches with. I do have HALO Infinite and it loads and plays well also Final Fantasy 7and all the remastered Halo games, The Witcher (not the updated vers) Shadow of the Tomb Raider and several older titles all of which have no problems.

  • @ThisisCitrus
    @ThisisCitrus 4 месяца назад +2

    I played all of BG3 on a 7200 HDD and it wasn't nearly that bad, load times were minutes long but once it did the assets were all loaded in. It does have an HDD mode though.

    • @danielkowalski7527
      @danielkowalski7527 3 месяца назад +1

      why hdd/sdd modes are diffrent? ssd = for low ram systems? or what?

    • @reinn-df2ti
      @reinn-df2ti 3 месяца назад

      I dont understand either....why there are two options there in the setting, is hdd mode reduce assets to be loaded or what@@danielkowalski7527

  • @biggravy7329
    @biggravy7329 3 месяца назад

    What about with intel optane acceleration?

  • @godhalo8582
    @godhalo8582 4 месяца назад

    Can you try a sshd!?

  • @idkwhattohaveasausername5828
    @idkwhattohaveasausername5828 4 месяца назад

    This just reminds me that I need to buy another nvme ssd. Starting to fill my boot one up.

  • @Dave4000
    @Dave4000 3 месяца назад +1

    Was this hard drive a _secondary_ drive or did it have both Windows and the games installed on it?

  • @Cynic_6489
    @Cynic_6489 4 месяца назад

    i don't miss the click of death

  • @ZoahPorre
    @ZoahPorre 4 месяца назад

    what about hybrid drives? they work quite well in the consoles

  • @mapesdhs597
    @mapesdhs597 4 месяца назад

    Although it won't make anywhere near as much of a difference vs. using an SSD instead, getting hold of old cheap Enterprise drives can give a nice speed bump over the typical 7200rpm consumer models like the Barracuda. The Hitachi HUS and Seagate ES.3 can be especially cheap, both 2TB and 4TB. One can sometimes nab them new/unused for cheap aswell. Handy for bulk storage for sure. Or if you want to be a little adventurous, there's 10K/15K SAS for better access times (HBAs are cheap). However, the speed gain from an SSD is definitely worth it if one can stretch to a relevant product (in the UK I'd probably go for the WD SN580).

  • @pace.AT.minecraft
    @pace.AT.minecraft 4 месяца назад

    I have been waiting for a video like this because every time I pair my bootable windows (SSD/m.2) with a storage (HDD/sata) my games crash a lot 😢

  • @endorfun22
    @endorfun22 4 месяца назад

    I know liking to poke fun and have a giggle on such things, so many examples, time and time again. Question being why not do it properly with a 5400 drive. Considering so many prebuilt systems you got screwed with 2 drives, 1 drive being SSD and that being fine, however the other being a 5400 drive.

  • @soniablanche5672
    @soniablanche5672 4 месяца назад

    hdd doesn't actually affect FPS, only loading time which is why you can get (micro)stutters when the game loads stuff, although I think a lot of these stutters could be fixed by pre-loading some stuff in the RAM but whatever

  • @DennyT123
    @DennyT123 3 месяца назад

    I use Primocache to cache an HDD to a small partition on a SATA SSD. It works well with games.

  • @counterstrifekid
    @counterstrifekid 3 месяца назад

    I still have most of my games on HDDs to this day.

  • @just-someone99
    @just-someone99 4 месяца назад

    how did you manage 100 fps in cyberpunk

  • @CuteSkyler
    @CuteSkyler 4 месяца назад

    I've never had any problems with HDD's, the only time I can recall having loading issues was with GTAV, not even the hitboxes would load in, but I was also streaming during it so my PC was under full load.

  • @sitordan
    @sitordan 4 месяца назад +1

    My main gaming drive is an HDD (2TB Seagate) and I play them games without problems. Only a couple of titles are installed on a SATA SSD. I use my nvme drive for system and applications.

  • @PixelYT-ts2fe
    @PixelYT-ts2fe 3 месяца назад

    Wonder how long it would take for all half life segments