As it stands, if just 1% of people who watched this video went and bought a pint in this pub - it would be 1,170 pints sold. Let’s support the local! FYI - Spoke to the landlord and the pints are NOT £7 lol (people are talking about pubs nearer to where they live).
Spot on! I go to the pub regularly, but only for food and company because alcohol doesn't 'agree with me. That makes me feel like an outsider in the pub sometimes. Perhaps that's one of the reasons for the lack of footfall? The drinking culture seems like it's 'part of being British, but beer can easily trigger health problems due to the sugar and alcohol, so the kind of drinking that supports landlords has become widespread these days. I used to go out with a mate and he is a drinker, so I was having two or three pints regularly, but my health sufered. So I can't attend that nice pub in Morley unless they start serving food again. In the meantime I have to stick with Wetherspoons, also for economic reasons as others have mentioned. Cheers
When I was a kid, if you wanted to meet the opposite sex you went to a pub. Even if you didn't get lucky, you could have a great night out without breaking the bank. Now people hook up online. You can't smoke in pubs, and a few drinks, a bite to eat and a cab home costs a small fortune. People also seem more guarded, less friendly and more interested in their phones than in the people around them.
Agree with all your points except smoking. I'd rather NOT breathe in toxic fumes thank you. But yes, we do need to save this part of British culture if we can
@@shaz2761 I get that - and actually I prefer it if my clothes don't reek of smoke. It's also a fact that smoking bans started the decline of the British pub. I reckon the other factor was people bringing carloads of cheap booze over from France and Belgium and flogging it on. A boozy night in cost peanuts...
@@A.Mardle the smoking ban was another nail in the coffin, but it all started just after the 80's miner strikes. Working class venues are where all strike action and protest used to be planned. Solution? convince everyone that they can buy their way up the class ladder with credit and sell the lifestyle through the TV............... This worked until the internet came along in the early 2000's (remember the 80's? the decade of becoming middle class?), at which point most of us remember the media doing their best to scare people away from using the internet, but now instead they pump as full of hatred and division via clickbait "news" (lies). Divide and conquer.
@@shaz2761 The pub should have the option to allow or not allow smoking or perhaps compromise with a non-smoking section. I say this as a non-smoker that gets headaches if around smoke too much.
I’m 62 and I have watched the mechanical destruction of the working class, its values and culture and our replacement. It’s deliberate and planned. Great music by the way, keep it up 😊
I agree, it is deliberate and planned as is the destruction of the rest of our heritage and culture to make way for an Islamic state that's easier to brainwashed with religion.
The decline of working class venues started after the miners strikes in the early 80's. Now everyone wants to think they're middle class, they have to think a certain way, avoid working class venues, go to trendy gastro pubs to show off their rented German cars. It's all about the destruction of the working class for the purpose of control and profit.
Good God £7 a pint is that what pubs are asking these days no wonder they are closing. I do believe that Labour took a penny off a pint but as landlords had to pay extra national insurance tax the price may have had to go up but £7 omg not for me !!
Paranoid BS. I’ve been watching the decline of pubs as a line going down that exactly follows the line going up. What does the line going up show? Supermarket beer, drink drive bans, smoking bans, gyms, home gyms, video games, 50” TVs, retail parks, home video, internet. Job done. Capitalism wins, people buy and pursue what they want. As the choice widens, so does the market dictate who stands and falls.
That’s not the reason. You can do that online. The government doesn’t want the plebs drinking alcohol. They want them up early, working long hours and being obedient little economic units. No grumbling, no striking, no hangovers, just obedience and work.
Another British institution attacked, while the supermarkets sell cheap alcohol, people were encouraged to buld back garden bars (notice the council haven't paid much attention to that - despite many being converted into living accommodation). Streets are dead at 10:30pm these days. No street lights late at night either. Home gyms, home cinema, home bar - home prison with the electronic door locks looming...all planned.
@@voxintenebris6367”all planned” 😂😂 bullshit it’s just rich people doing what rich people do. Capitalism works. They find ways to earn money and they do it, and people follow along because they like to buy stuff and like to do stuff on the cheap. Back in the early 1990s pub landlords were complaining about Blockbuster video and supermarket beer. “It was all planned” 😂. No, people just preferred to spend less and rent a video and buy a six pack for home rather than two pints in the pub
I live in S Devon and the beer is about 4 .50 a pint ,the local pub was also crowded with generally older people not youngsters so when they go the pubs go unless the younger generation change their habits. @@RyanSmithSounds
Do you think that they are profiteering because the price these pubs are being charged for the drinks they sell has increased in some cases 100% over the last couple of years. Pubs have to charge this to make margins and they then go out of business because no one can afford to go out. If they don’t then they don’t make their margins and still go out of business. Hospitality is done, the industry needs government help and quick.
Years ago people could work to live a fairly decent life, get married, bring up a family and not have to give up small luxuries like pubs, clubs,etc. Now, because of corporate greed people are working to survive only. Nothing to build on or look forward to.
@@DessieTots You could do it on one wage 50 , 60 years ago .O.K. ,no car , no foreign hols , but a factory job would give a family of four a goodish life .
Totally agree. This is why everything is disappearing - no one can afford it anymore.. funny how 'trickle down economics' seems to be concentrating the money into a small minority, and yet the majority still vote for it, while moaning that they can't afford anything
It's not "corporate greed", it's your government destroying the purchasing power of your currency through deficit spending and the inflation it creates. The same thing is happening in the US.
I’m a dying breed I’m 20 years old and not many others my age go to the pub I spend most nights hanging out with people in their 50s having a good laugh getting good advice on life and relationships the rest of my generation turns to Reddit which explains a lot tbh I hope that these wonderful places come back because they are magical
This is so true - I have never got on board with Reddit myself. Would much rather speak to real people in the boozer. At least then you can suss out if they are full of crap lol
It can be really steep in places now. But like someone else said recently, the spoons does well enough to keep it reasonable. Maybe the local and the brewery that owns it can do something to help stem the problem.
That is mental! I wouldn't be going if being charged that much either. Looking at nearly a fiver in Leeds at the minute, unless you are stepping into places that consider themselves a bit more up market. That is in my experience anyway.
@@lc6730the smoking ban improved the inside of pubs, cafes, buses, etc. Most of us hate smoke from cigarettes. We don't mind the vape smells from vapes, though. The smell of smoke always put me off pubs, etc. it was horrible back then. Obviously smokers didn't mind it back then at all, though. They didn't consider how it was for non smokers, though, did they? They didn't give a ****.
In the 1980s the atmosphere felt like you was welcome i remember when i was young teens the pubs was busy you see a cloud of smoke once you walked in all kinds of flavours even cigars, you hear laughs and people was drunk, the taste of genuine pork scratchings, the music was amazing you could find a partner and new friends the socialising was a blast and the Pub hotpots OH my lord and this was in london by the way
You do occasionally see the same kind of atmosphere but it does now seem seldom. Obviously we don't have the smoke in the place these days - some have said that is part of the problem but I am not sure myself.
Yeah totally, i was in Lindon in Soho pubs most nights, brilliant, cram packed, smoke filled warm lighting not " eco friendly too bright LED in sight, everyone looked good in that haze of " cigarettes and alcohol " ! They have just done everything to kill pubs and the British lifestyle and culture !
London pubs sound horrific in the 80's. No, a nice country place with a roaring fire, a tired dog after a good walk, a few good friends and a chatty barmaid you'd like to take home, but the wife probably wouldn't approve. Bliss. 😊
I have been a beer drinker all my life and aged 73, I cannot afford to drink anymore, the price of a pint is what's killing pubs. That's down to government and greedy company's that own the pubs, I do not blame individual landlords. I will also add that I will not go to any pub with screaming kids running around
Agreed re the screaming kids. Pubs were once the domain of adults with the kids in the car with a bottle of pop and a packet of cheese and onion. Now pubs are family friendly theme parks. (To be fair it's not the pub's fault they have screaming children running around, it's the hopeless parenting of the twenty first century!)
This is so true. This is why we need one in walking distance to save on the taxi fare. At least then you can still drink and get that kebab on the way home.
As long as they're not running around knocking tables then I don't mind. Although a kid did knock my table one time and I just about grabbed hold of the glass, The mother gave me a look that said "kids eh" rather than an apology. That wasn't as bad as 2 women walking into a boozer with a pram, buying drinks and then proceeding to change the kid's crappy arse. I finished that bevvy and started to walk out and one of them said to her mate "what's his problem?". I'd have thought that it was perfectly clear, I'd worked all week and was having a quiet Friday bevvy with the paper and then I have to smell somebody else's kid's arse.
In places like Wetherspoon kids are not allowed after 7pm and my local pub kids are not allowed in at all , and 2 other pubs not local do not allow kids in at all , so I think it’s only restaurants type pubs like Wetherspoon .
I'm a taxi driver in South Tyneside, our seaside town used to be buzzing, I remember coaches coming in from Newcastle, Durham all over the NE, we couldn't just walk into a bar you had to queue to get in it was a brilliant time and I'm talking mid 80s to the 90s. Our pubs used to be fun pubs, bar staff dancing on the bar, girls up on the stage when its their birthday it was a laugh but now they play music and charge ridiculous amounts of money to just sit in a cold bar because they cant afford to put the heating on. Back then I was on rubbish wages yet I could go out 4 nights a week, we used to go for a pint in our lunch break and after work on Friday before heading home to get ready for the pub crawl. With this in mind it is purely down to the cost now and this in turn has turned the people away. Other factors to consider, back in the day we didn't have mobile phones so we all went out to catch up on what had been going on through the week but now people text every second of every day and they don't know how to chat any more. This is the biggest problem in home entertainment, we all have 100s of tv channels to watch but back in the 80s we had 4 channels and after midnight you found it hard to watch anything, my highlight was watching the Hitman and Her after Saturday night clubbing. Want to watch a film in the 80s thats not on tv, you had to walk to the video shop to hire one, again now you have 1000s to watch without getting off your backside. Now alot of people have their own garden bars and this happened because of the lock down, I have one and tbh I prefer going in there now than hitting our dismal town centre because not many bars left its all so sad, I drop of lots of people that go home early to do just this because of the state of the town, I have actually been invited in to look at their creation, hell some of them have even told me to park the car up and have a beer with them, ohhhhh how tempting that is lol. To sum it all up cost of drinks in boring pubs and multimedia has ruined everything. Anyone on minimum wage after tax and NI you are spending almost an hours wage on one drink its crazy. I am so glad I was a teen in the 80s and had the best time of my life, not many kids can say that now. I will be putting videos on my new channel (South Shields and Beyond) showing my town soon, that is when I get used to editing and working out everything and get people on there lol.
Totally agree with you mate the 80s and 90s were brilliant going out on a Friday I'd finish work at 2.30pm and me n my work mates would have a few up to around 5pm then we'd usually go home get some food n a shower change etc then out again maybe a club till 2am.😊 then same out on a Saturday night. Sunday I'd go to my local in afternoon 11am till 3pm. Then back out 7pm till bell at 10 30pm.😅
Loads of good points, although, it must be said, if you're not on the bus routes, taxis in our Edinburgh area are extortionate for those on minimum wage, or only a pound or two over min wage hourly rate.
My late father could fill any pub he managed. His secret, good staff, they made people welcome, no juke box, no music, no TV, no quiz, just great beer, generosity, warm smiles & art of conversation! Same pub now, bar person looked straight through me, no acknowledgement, straight back onto her mobile! = empty pub!
You can appreciate the cyclical nature of your argument. Even if they get paid so little (which I don’t accept), bad service means less customers. Less customers means no job. Your gripe about wages doesn’t hold up.
@ they generally don't care about the job, if the pub shuts it's no skin of their nose - on to tesco or whatever else is available. The old pub landlord/lady was more invested for obvious reasons
£6 a pint, £14 for a burger and chips and £12 each way for a taxi - it's no wonder no one goes to the pub anymore. Sadly it's governments fault - failed to control the price of electricity, ramped up minimum wage, ramped up employers NI, added massive tax to drinks. Most pubs can barely afford to keep the lights on.
how stupid complaining about minimum wage then complain pubs to expensive. It is this stupidity that allowed Reagan & Thatcher, Trump politics in to attack the unions allow corporation to become monopolies and kill antitrust- the middle class from 65% to25% cut corporate tax from 70%to 25%. The money and power is concentrated in the rich corporation buying lobbyists cause the poor cant afford them. You and the politicians sold yourself and every generation after out because you did not protect your community eg local shops killed by amazon. Probably my fault too.
It really does seem that way. I know a lot of people feeling the pinch but at the same time buy everything on credit which only makes everything hard each and every month. People buying fast fashion with Klarna is madness.
People also work longer than the old days (through to the 70s). 9 to 5 meant it in those day - not 8 till 6 then 90 mins to get home. People are too knackered to spend their evenings drinking. And there's the no-smoking, and the drink-driving aspects, and employers won't let you get in late. In my day, it was perfectly OK to take the odd day off with a hangover. Try that now.
Also its the mix of the workforce, id say more in the north. For example your Muslim friend wont come for a drink, that single mum or dad got too many things going on. The older divorced chap is probably just doing enough to get by. Nobody finishes at the same time , different shifts etc. Combine tht with the expensive drinks and the cost of living @sambda
Almost as though our Governments don't want us having untraceable conversations about politics,and discussing our oppressors.(New proposed banter law =more encroachment too)It's all deliberate erosion of social cohesion,and therefor reliance on state."My two penneth"
Myself and 3 friends went out just before Christmas for a Chinese buffet and the hope of playing a bit of pool afterwards. The Chinese buffet had just us 3 and another table with 2 people on it, the entire time we were there. We then tried to find a pub that had a pool table. We didn't stay long at the first pub as the pool table was being occupied by about 5 guys who you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alleyway. In fact, the whole pub had about 7 people in it who all looked like they had never worked a day in their life and the pub appeared to be their nightly retreat. We then moved on to another pub which had just us and one other person in it. As a fellow musician, I can completely sympathize with what you experienced here. We used to play a very popular pub in Cheltenham, which was absolutely packed from front to back, whenever we played there. About this time last year, the landlady decided to move on as the brewery wanted her to increase the price of beer to £7.50 a pint! There is roughly a third of tax on a pint of beer, which means about a £1.35 tariff on every pint that a pub sells. As usual, the only ones coining it in is the government!
@@RyanSmithSounds yes but try to mainly play clubs and weddings, festivals, private functions and corporate events. Pubs just don't have the outlay any more to pay bands properly. A solo artist can earn more than any member of a 4 or 5 piece band. Solo musicians usually get £150 or more per gig, while someone in a band will get about £70-80 on average per pub gig.
It’s incredibly expensive, and the worst is the pubs don’t make any money on the price!!! It’s taxes!!! Reduce taxes at all costs please !!!!! This government doesn’t understand increasing taxes leads to poverty!
The government has slowly made people poorer over the years. Most people's disposable income has fallen, some badly. The lockdowns made people used to drinking at home in isolation. The government also hasn't helped with business rates and additional taxes. R.I.P British pubs 🇬🇧.
I'll tell you why pubs are closing, Its because we are sick and tired of pubs showing sports all around he venue. I want to watch music videos or listen to the jukebox. I hate being forced to sit with the noise of a sports match blaring out. Wheatherspoona beer prices would help also
I dont bother with pubs now cause off the amount of televisions on and the sport. From an entertainment perspective Sports are just cartoons for the kids.
You're going to the wrong pubs. There are loads of nice pubs and bars that don't show sport. Some of those pubs are doing well, and some of them are having the same struggles as this one. Showing sport isn't a factor into why pubs are dying.
Well said,I see a great looking proper pub I walk through the door to find it's been gutted televisions everywhere and all the beer sold is garbage,it probably all comes from one big barrel with different things added as it's squirted out Don't even get me started on bad poors zombie dead staff and the all time killer card payment only I walk out
My issue is that to have a soft drink being on medications cost similar to a pint! Business rates overheads of gas and electric etc means that an average pub needs £100k before they start. Those that can afford to drink out or have a nice meal would rather go to a wine bar or bistro and pay £60 as a couple for proper food and nicer drinks rather than pay £40 for some microwaved and out of packets crap. I went to one independant pub on dartmoor and they advertised a slow roasted lamb shank with roast potatoes and fresh seasonal steamed veg for £32. I asked to see the chef and made out that i really loved the lamb, the bar staff were happy letting me into the kitchen, i asked how long he had been a chef etc and i said was he happy serving what he had, he said he has to cook to a cost or loose his job, it was a chefs larder lamb in mint gravy £4 from cash and carry with 2 jacks (tesco brand) microwavable roast potatoes, with a microwavable steamed veg bag and some plastic tub gravy. This is the state of pubs and their situation. If they did it for £15 i wouldn't have minded but that is a con job. Hence no return custom.
The greed of the breweries is a massive factor. The landlords have to pass the price to the punters ...eventually they stop going and spend their money on weed and cheap Tesco beer.
lol the cheapest can tesco does is £1 for a crappy cider. You can get cans for 33c in the french supermarkets, and some of them arent bad. Better to just go over to france/belgium a couple of times a year than give the theives at tesco your hard earned.
In central London a bar I can't remember the name charges £9.20 a pint of nothing special just bog standard lager. After 10:00pm they add an extra 70p to the cost of each pint so you're looking at £9.90 for a pint of say Fosters or whatever it is. Unbelievable!
It's pretty much the same prices here in the West country in Bath and surrounding towns. However, you have to consider the high business rates and the energy costs now to run a pub.
I’ve worked in the pub trade since 1997 - we keep our prices low, put out free nibbles for the punters, organise quizzes and raffles but the interest is just lessoning as the years past by - I noticed the start of the major decline started in 2007 when the no smoking ban came in , another pub in the same area mainly serves food closes at 9.30 after the food has finished because they don’t have the drinkers in anymore - you are very right when you say people will go to trendy bars and pay silly prices rather than support small local pubs - they will be sad one day when they’ve all gone.
Thats exactly what I think as well. And Ive lived through all the times at 75!! I even used to think the downfall of humanity was the invention of electricity......... but then I was a full time hippy .😂😂🤪
Another reason is that we are all suspicious of strangers. My dad worked away in london every week, as a jobbing painter. He could go into any local knowing there would be men he could chat to. Try going to a pub now and trying to talk to strangers!
Ha - so true. You still get some friendly ones though that you can chat to - but people get so weird about talking to new folk these days. I think phones and covid have done that to people.
I'm sat in paying the electricity bill. When I do venture out for a bit of mental relief, I find pubs as empty as this with miserable staff who dont make me feel welcome. I stand by the fruit machine sup my pint fairly quickly and clear off home. Its no wonder many of them are closing
A pub I used to go to would charge £24 for a large bottle of Lidl Prosecco, yes he bought it in Lidl for around £6 he also would not put the heating on and people would have to sit in there in hats and coats, then he wondered why most of the people left and would go next door to the warm cheaper traditional pub.
Pubs began dying when pints went over £4, put on life support when smoking was banned, and died when the pint went above £6.50 RIP traditional English pubs.
Just got suggested this video randomly. I have to say what an amazing voice and talent you have Ryan. Good luck for the future. Such a shame these historical British institutions are closing down.
Thank you so much for your comment - I am hoping to really put some more time into my music this year. Turning 30 made me take it seriously and I managed to record and release 6 songs last year - here is to 2025 lol It really is a shame - I hope we can hold on to as many as possible.
A lot of boozers don't help their cause either. The times i popped into a pub for a pint and the bar staff hardly even acknowledged me. No friendly smile, and forget a bit of conversation. They should be more appreciative of someone entering their premises and spending £7 for a pint of their beer. Its imperative that they make their clientel feel welcomed. Its should be a different experience from shopping in tesco.
I think you've hit the nail on the head, people do have money to spend but I think customer service is key. There is a pub near me that was always dead because the service was drab. Since it was takeover 2 years ago it is thriving everyday, mainly because the owners look after you and play some absolutely banging music if there is no singer on. They'll remember your name, chuck you a free bag of crisps or nuts after you've had a couple, which makes you stay for a couple more, all for the sakes of a cheap bag earns them an extra wine and a beer or 2. Makes a big difference and makes you feel welcome and wanting to come back.
Pub goers money now goes to Virgin, Media, Vodafone, Gritish Bass, The council, the government , the water board and the car insurance policy. We are done and we allowed it to happen by voting Red/ blue all the time.
No good moaning about it. We allowed to happen. It will be the same with digital currency.The people who pay for half a lager with their phones, will be moaning in five years time how their lives are totally controlled.
Pubs have endured a few decades of severe and concerted politically-driven pressure. The extortionate price of a pint is not the choice of the pub - it's tax and monopolised supplier costs. Supermarts don't face these problems, so people drink at home. My household disposeable income is fast reducing thanks to wage cuts, tax and energy costs. I would love to be able to afford to nip into lovely pubs for a few beers with friends, but this is now an irregular luxury - thanks to this and the last govt 😢
There are many reasons, some of these are:- the smoking ban; the high prices; the fact that most are now glorified restaurants with wide-screen sky sports and screaming kids; said kids suddenly aren't their parent's responsibility once inside one of these pseudo-pubs; dogs allowed in areas where food is served; unwanted noise (some call this music) piped to every corner of every room- even to the toilets. Then there's the issue of getting there and back. No; I used to love going to pubs but that was so many years ago. I always drink at home, where I can light my pipe; no kids; no dogs; no noisy fruit machines; no piped pop 'music' nor live two-chord wonder 'music', but lots of tasty beers brewed by myself at 20p per pint.
I can walk to my local village pub in 10 minutes, order a pint and a wine for £14. Or I can wall into town in 40 minutes and order a pint and a wine from "spoons" for £6. That's why locals are closing.
@@truthmerchant1 yes I looked. Is more akin to restaurant that has bar. Like with American casual dining chains. Is this a suitable substitute for English pubs? Do Pubs normally have extensive food menus?
When I was a teen people used to go out to drink. Now people drink to go out as prices are so expensive in the pubs and restaurants. It's now only for a rare treat or special occasion.
@seanknapton7449 Yes, that's very true. I don't have one in our town. I wrote to Wetherspoon suggesting he open where our seafront had a large looming gap that the council had delayed to do anything with for years, and the council must have been approached as all the licensed vintners in our town when they got wind of it scuppered the plans by threatening to close if they did and council bowed down to local business pressure. There is one in the capital city but its a 24 mile round trip by car or train, so you are very lucky! Their beer is a great selection & cheap.
@ I like some Wetherspoons pubs as well. When they first came to my old town, the biggest effect was to make the existing places smarten up their act, and two pubs that really were rubbish shut down. Altogether a positive influence.
I spent much of my youth pubbing around my local surrounding towns with a good 5 or 6 mates at least 3 times a week. It was the best time of my life - mind you this was when a pint was £1.80. Feel sorry for the youngsters these days because they will never truly appreciate the level of fun I had.
If you watch an old episode of Coronation Street from the 1960s or 1970s, you'll notice that for many residents, the best option for leisure, if they could afford it, was to visit the Rovers Return. Their homes were small, with limited amenities and little in the way of entertainment. In contrast, the pub offered warmth, a welcoming atmosphere, and the chance to socialize with friends and enjoy a laugh. It was an obvious choice-why stay at home unless you have to?
This is true - people are very fortunate to have a lot of home comforts these days. There really isn't the need to leave, especially when you can get a four pack for less than a fiver.
I just DJ in a large bar in my local city, and I had four ladies on a family reunion on the dance floor on and off all night. Few others that were mainly scrolling on their phones. The fact, it’s January plays a big part, but at the end of the day, young people just can’t afford to spend money in pubs & I don’t see why you should pay over £2.50 for a pint in any pub. I guess to me a pub is something you enjoy when you’ve got an excess of money to spend. Especially if you’re expected to buy rounds because that’s gonna be at least £10-£30 per round for a small group of friends. The main root of the whole cost of living issue for me is overpriced housing.
@@danwiddison A lot of young people haven't got much money because they have been sold a lie by various governments that they all needed go to university etc and everything would be fine, they would all end up with good high paid jobs. Some do of course but an awful lot of the ones I meet haven't been so lucky. The truth is the vast majority of jobs that used to be taken by school leavers fifty odd years ago have gone due to short sighted government policies over the last four or five decades so the government came up with an idea to massage the youth unemployment figures by getting the kids to stay on at school and then go on to college or university, where of course they rack up a load of debt unless they have well off parents. I remember people warning about the inevitable outcome of the policies that have led to this forty odd years ago. They were of course dismissed at various times, by both Labour and Tories, as being little Englanders, Marists, Fascists, right wing Loonies, left wing loonies and more, maybe they were, but they have been proven right and the country is now in an absolute mess.
Most people who go into a pub are wealthy people, I'm close to 60, apart from wakes held in a pub, I haven't been out or been able to afford to go out, the cost of survival is killing our budgets, I earn above average wages, but as a single person, my money doesn't allow me enough to afford to go out and have a pint at the local, not that I would as our local is full of wealthy people who drink to excess and just want to have a fight, on the odd occasion that I fancy a drink, I go round the corner to the Eastern European shop and try out different beers, I can buy 6 different beers for the price of a pint in the pub, sadly, all the good pubs closed around 2007 when smoking was stopped, even as a non smoker myself, I noticed that it killed off the pub trade
The pub was always a place for SOCIAL GATHERINGS people sharing ideas on events locally, nationally or globally wether that be personal interests such as sport etc or conflicts. Since COVID anyone paying attention can see they need to stop social gatherings so people then have to share ideas online, that way gathering information on citizens to identify who is on board with the government narrative or who the enemy is. Pricing us out of public houses is one way of going about it just like they will do with personal transport.
It has to, the cost of taxi's is too high, I want to be able to drive home after so 2 to 3 pints of 3.5% in 3 hours i'm safe, throw in a 5% beer i'll be over the limit for several hours.
I worked in pubs managing for Whitbread from the 80s to maybe 2010 eventually working for Sheffield University running a bar for them after Whitbread sold all its pubs. While at Sheffield University we talked to a brewery representative trying to get a better deal on our drinks prices, saying we could actually buy a lot of our stock cheaper at supermarkets. The brewery rep agreed and said supermarkets actually take a loss on alcohol for whatever reason. What did every little village used to have? a pub. What do many have now in its place? a Tesco express or similar. Coincidence or the plan all along? who knows.
Spot on matt and from 1970s >,every tack nail in the coffin of " plan for west ,,control from food speech >the real western family unit etc,the reset but there reset ,and for western history's cultures religion values standards laws rules regulations etc to vanish,,but not for us all ??
This is so true - it can be a pricey night if there for the whole evening. I do like to pop in for a couple through the week with friends when I can though - there are some really nice spots still doing well in Leeds.
@@paularrowsmith9376 Not bad oop North ,c.£3.50 a pint in a normal pub ,a large wine £4,00 , town centre dearer , but £2.20 a pint , in a club .In London in 2022 , my pint , Madame's large red wine £14.60 . The price difference is understandable...rates..staff wages....but that's one reason , as is no smoking , as is smell of cabbage in foodie pubs .
If you make a joke about anything these days the woke brigade would be so offended they’d be scrabbling for their phones, stabbing 999 into the keypad, and screaming for the bizzies to drag you away and incarcerate you for life with no chance of parole.
@@RyanSmithSounds So called Craft Ale has got to be one of the biggest rip offs going. It's a can of beer for goodness sake, not liquid gold. Most of the beardo's that drink craft ale couldn't find their way to a pub with a map and compass. If they spent as much time in their local as they do in the supermarket aisle looking at canned beer then finding proper real ale would be much easier for them and it would help keep the pub going.
@@RyanSmithSounds I'd also look at it from a different angle, can they really not afford it? Most people saying they can't afford it are ones they have maxed a loan out with the latest car, have all the TV subscriptions going, constantly buying that from Home Bargains or wherever, latest phones etc then wonder why they have no money. We've become a nation obsessed with driving everywhere to some shops we don't need to every weekend. Years ago people were much more chill and just have a walk at weekends and relax down the pub. People do have money they're just spending it on other things or online on amazon.
@@Richy91 maybe in truth people could afford the waste money on over inflated beer doesnt mean they should, its about valuing the time you gave for that money. Not really spending money , you are trading 1hr 1/2 hard work for a round of drinks
It's one of the last few places where we can meet, chat, discuss, laugh, argue, and just communicate, and it's slipping away. We are going down the path of sterile bars and clubs, unable to speak unless it's via texts to the person standing in the same bar. Unable to openly say what you want in case it offends someone. Having a nation with a spectrum of people and thoughts, be it good or bad, is needed. We are getting pushed into the middle lane where being an individual is frowned upon unless it ticks the boxes of what the current Gov wants. Having pubs close down and funnel youth into cookie-cutter bars/clubs or stay home just helps that alone
I haven't been to my village pub in about 20yrs. In the 90s and early 2000s when I was growing up it was the place to be. A beautiful pub in an idyllic little countryside village. Pool, darts, crib, and domino leagues where we would compete against other pubs in the county so we all got to go to other pubs across the county every Tuesday and Thursday night to compete. Lovely food. Just a great social hub. About 15yrs ago new owners took over and just destroyed the decor and it looks a sorry old state these days. Some of the locals still prop it up, but it stopped being the place to be many years ago. They could easily revive it but the owners just seem to like to keep it as a hangout for them, their family, and a few locals. Then you have the whole thing of people moving on. A friend of mine said he stopped going in there as he doesn't know anyone in there anymore. Everyone we knew is long gone and moved on.
@RyanSmithSounds By creating a time machine. For a lot of people in my social circle pubs just aren't really a thing anymore. Some say pub culture is nothing like it used to be as society has changed. It's too expensive. Or they don't like crowded places since COVID came along.
@@MbisonBalrog No, none at all. I've lived here my entire 40yrs and never heard of a single fight there. It's a nice quiet village with virtually no crime at all. You can sleep with your doors unlocked. There are rough areas where fights will take place. When you have a drinking culture you will get some violence, especially on the weekends when people go out to blow off steam.
@@MbisonBalrogNo...that is mainly the big cities. Back in the day..the town and back street council estate pubs didn't have trouble. Well..not in my area..maybe in rough neighbourhoods yes.
I’ve been on this earth 67 years and can’t think of one good government we’ve had between labour and the tories. They’ve both been destructive cnuts towards the British people.
In 1963, you could have a good night out in a pub with £1! Keg bitter was about 2 shillings (10p) a pint and 10 cigarettes about the same. That left enough for bus fares if needed. Online tables show inflation over those 60 years has been 2,200% which means a pint should now cost £2.20 a pint in the same pub...if it hadn't been pulled down.
Smoking ban,COVID , criminal price of a pint ,the only pubs getting custom are having to do food bingo quizzes. The days of the local pub being a one man band are well gone, you can drink cheaper at home than you can in the pub ,get used to it it's only going to get worse
This is true. Even I like a drink at home I will be honest but I would rather be in the pub seeing friendly faces. I think sometimes you can get a few bad apples that spoil the atmosphere in some places too which can be an issue for an already struggling pub.
@@leemacdonald6533 Come on self driving cars! I wonder what will happen if the law changes to say you can 'drive' fully muntered if it's the car that's actually doing the driving. I'd be trying to get a self driving car. For the space cadet on the fly picnic opportunities. To be able to just climb in and say, "Home James." and everything would be fine. People do like to have the right to decide what they're going to kill, though. It provides a sense of agency.
As a DJ from the south East who's been around since the early 00s I've seen the decline. I remember DJing locally in Margate for instance, you'd have Escape, Punch and Judy, DV8, Lido, Hades, Frank's etc with Bar 26 open till 6am. What do we have locally now? Naf all! Just loads of gentrified arty farty bars that don't stay open past midnight and a dead Whetherspoons. In Ramsgate the only place thriving now is the biggest Spoons in the UK right on the seafront purely because it's like 2 quid for a pint and 8 quid for a curry. No one goes out anymore and trying to get your friends and new punters in to your events is even more of a pain because your battling against getting them to even come outside now! Everyone pre drinks, stays out for a few hours then goes home. Everything is expensive and no one has any money, once again government just want us indoors 24/7 that's the plan. The only places I've seen in past year or so do well is some pubs in Medway usually Rochester with my mates there is a karaoke pub and another pub at the back of it they over looks the castle and another one that's got a dj in with a sticky floor. Everywhere else is flat, boring or dead. New years eve in Poole me and the gf went out, everywhere dead. We ended up in Lord Nelson, around 12 people in there including us watching a band play their heart out they were damn good but once midnight was done everyone was leaving to go home 😢
@RyanSmithSounds Mate it's really worrying ain't it :( I applaud those who still manage to pull in a crowd doing music or even playing to 1 person. It's all about festivals now but even they are expensive
Nearly £8 a pint, £15 for burger and chips, and this guy is in one of the cleanest pubs I’ve seen in a while. A night out now for a group of 4, say 6 drinks over 3-4 hours with something to eat probably runs to what? £300? Bit stiff I think.
As a biker, myself and 2-3 mates like to ride to 2 different pubs every Sunday within a 20 mile radius, and have a pint in each. If we enjoy the experience there, we go back again at some point. We have a few favourites that we like to support. However, what we cannot cope with is either loud music where you cannot hear yourself talk or pub quizzes where you're frowned upon if you do talk!
As an Aussie looking on , one thing that occurs to me in Australia at least , is we do have a cost of living crisis happening, And I do think a lot of people just do not have much disposable income these days ( I know I don’t). I remember back in decades past (yes I’m old) , our pubs would be packed , you’d have to cut through the ciggy smoke with a carving knife😊, last year I went to a nice pub for a meal with my brother , and although there were a few people there, it was decidedly quite . Given the costs to survive , pay bills , electricity which is horrendously expensive here , pay council land rates, wages , etc , you do have to wonder how many of these places will still be up and running in years to come sadly.
I’ve noticed a huge change since lockdown. People got used to staying in and younger people didn’t know any different as they’d not gone to pubs before so were happy to stay in even when it was lifted and they were old enough to go out. Sad thing is some people think it’s good as it’s too noisy and expensive not realising it’s where people go to socialise and it helps massively with all the social anxiety people have of staying in and not interacting. Trying to ban smoking in pub gardens wasn’t anything to do with health and safety, it was a sneaky tactic to get people to stay home as they can talk freely in pub gardens and that can’t be censored, controlled or monitored like it can over social media. Hopefully it will pick up when people can just make a bit of an effort to see people instead of binge watching Netflix with a bag of Doritos, and moaning they have no friends when it’s better for mental health to go out and actually talk to people
@@RyanSmithSounds I'm sure that the idea of banning smoking _inside_ pubs was a shock in 2007, as so many people expressed at the time. But it's still an excellent idea. Why should the small minority of people who insist on blowing dangerous, unpleasant smoke around have the priority? It's not as if they need to do it.
I had been looking at using the Ancestral visa to look at citizenship in Scotland as that's where my grandfather was from. One of the big draws for me was the pub culture. A social gathering spot and the Sunday roasts, all seemed amazing to me. This was 10 years ago. Then things changed and I couldn't pursue it, and now I hear from others who were 3 years into their 5 year required stay, give up and come back to North America. I guess that door is shut now.
@rebeccaturner the majority of people who know how to enjoy themselves drink and smoke,it’s been that way for hundreds of years and you entitled brats have spoiled it,good luck with your non alcoholic beverage 😂
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I was a smoker when it was introduced but to be fair - apart from having to smell other people's farts - it was a change for the better.
Humphrey Smith closed many of the Sam Smith Pubs because they make little money and they can leave the pub empty whilst the land increases in value..many Pub chains make their money on property and land deals, destroying local communities is not their concern
I walked into a pub last night and if it wasn't for the plan to meet people there, I would have walked straight back out - it felt like a child minders, even in the tap room.
im a 68 year old mancunian...the pubs in the seventies and eighties, were always packed, from thursday to sunday night...everybody talked, and smoked, and laughed and danced the night away, if they had a juke box...a local, was just that...local people from your area...you knew them all..if not by name, but by face...great days indeed....for what its worth, my opinion about the present pub scene...overpriced and extortionate drinks....the banning (by labour) of smoking...the introduction of wall to wall sports, where you cannot hear yourself think (killing any conversation)...finally social media...all these factors, have drastically impacted the pub scene, and sadly not for the better....just to add...12 of the pubs i used to frequent in my area of north manchester, as well as my local (the berkshire) have all been demolished
Went in to Cardiff for new years eve ,the streets had loads of people around, but the pubs and restaurants were all empty.. could it be the £7 that I was charged for 1 pint .
Why would anyone go to a pub when you can comfortably stare at Netflix, Prime Video, or Disney, 5 hours straight everyday for £20 a month. And when you do head out, you cant drive 15 mins without passing a McDonald's, KFC, Pizza Hut, Subway, Starbucks, TGI Fridays or Costa. And when you make a payment you cant avoid Mastercard, VISA, Amex, or Paypal. Every single one of them are US multinational owned. American multinationals have bought out the UK wholesale, killed off the high street as well as independent outlets. Pubs have just been caught in the crossfire. The few other well know brands have been picked up by other foreign buyers. Try buying British. Its next to impossible. Fancy a packet of Walkers crisps washed down with an R Whites lemonade? Newsflash: They're both outright owned by Pepsico. Rowntree Mackintosh? HP sauce? Cadburys? Pretty much every single scotch whisky brand? All gone in the great British sell off. They cant even be called British anymore. Even Pets At Home have Blackrock as one of their main shareholders. We're all literally working for US shareholders now. No wonder everyone is skint, the NHS is on its knees and the government cant even maintain our pothole infested roads. Next time you're flying abroad and waiting for your flight at Heathrow or Gatwick airports just remember that they are both completely 100% foreign owned. We've sold off our airports, transport, and utility companies and anything else of substance . We own nothing.
I am 65 was talking about the boozers to a old mucker of mine, which have closed since are day.its so sad .only plus side we enjoyed the good old days drinking in plenty of pubs. 3:09
@@RyanSmithSounds I was into gyms in a big way but not anymore. Full of wannabe Mike Thurstons & influencer types! Instead I do calisthenics at home. Screw gyms!
Important topic and sounded like good music...My local in Galway, was an extention of my living room for decades, mobbed after work and your local community came thru and interacted probably 6 days in 7 in the old days...Seems society has changed...recently stopped in for a pint and say hello to the ghosts of my friends still sitting at the bar, but only 3 other people...I miss the traditional old sundays, magic...
There's also social changes. After I left school, people walked out to work in their local town, would pop in for a drink before going home if they had worked late. These days we all drive to work from far and wide, and we usually don't live close to our friends. When we do meet we all drive out from different places to what is basically a restaurant, drinking little or no alcohol.
Yep we worked where we lived we socialised where we lived local pub working mens club even had a few night clubs we could stroll home from in about an hour no ubers for us 😂😢😅 great times 👍
There's too much price difference between the average local pub and what Wetherspoons and the supermarkets sell alcohol for In Wetherspoons you can get a pint of real ale for £2.70 £5 in most other pubs Wetherspoons £3.70 for a double gin and tonic on promotion Most other pubs up to £10 for double spirits! That's the problem
Big Greedy Brewers.....killed and still killing pubs.... Despite what others may think....Local pubs were an integral part of society.... people mixed...talked...learnt...agreed...disagreed...created standards....and most importantly...Laughed....Shame on you Big Brewers ..
I do love a Spoons. A lot of people reckon they are part of the problem but tbh I think any surrounding pubs should see their model as part of the solution. Trouble is they are brewery owned and prices are often fixed.
Same here in Ireland. Pubs are dead, only the overpriced ones in the city centres are doing any business. Very few people can afford a night out anymore. So many pubs have closed in the last few years. Sad thing is they will never reopen. It’s a shame because they are the heart of community’s. Ah well I guess it’s a symptom of the times we live in. Sad really.
It really is heartbreaking to see the decline of the British pub, if ever a revolution was going to be hatched it was going to be in the local, it was how musicians got started and most importantly where boys went to meet girls, it was the default hook up place, now sadly its all done on line, keep going young fella, you are creating social history.
Mate I get it, the industry is on it's Arse, no one is going out no more which is sad. I hope you get some better gigs that are busy for you, horrible in a venue with zero footfall. Anyway I came across your video in my feed so your spreading which is good. I am a DJ btw at a Corporate Pub chain venue and even I am noticing the dip in footfall. Respect for doing this. Remember #useitorloseit
It is so sad - I am really hoping that we can save what is left of the trade. You’ll know exactly what I mean with that line of work - best of luck to you mate. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
On the other hand, many people started using pubs when smoking was banned inside them. As a youngster I used to hate the fact that I was choked every time I entered a bar and was fed up coughing sh*t up the following morning. So I just avoided pubs for a few years. I do think however that there perhaps should be areas where smokers can go that are inside ( those pubs that have both a bar and a lounge) could have smoking and non smoking areas that are separate. It’s a bit of an ask expecting customers who smoke to stand outside in the winter or rain for a smoke.
@@markturner6755 each landlord should declare if it is a smoking or not smoking pub, and you enter atr your own risk. tearing away 50% of citizens choice was nothing but tyranny. and without ANY consulation or mandate from the public.
@puppets.and.muppets if only there was such a thing as a non smokers pub back in the days. It certainly was enter at own risk and miserable as a result for non smokers. I’ve seen “smokers clubs” in Germany and they seem to do well.
People used to go to the pub for a chat, and have the crack. Problem today is 90% of pubs and bars have music blazing away and you can't hear yourself think. Isn't this an example of what I'm saying?
Just returned from the store with 2 pints of beer $5.00 and tuna sandwich and chips. $4.00. At my local pub around the corner this would be $25+. It is not hard to understand what is happening. There are too many pubs chasing too few customers. When you send all your manufacturing out of the country the nation becomes poorer over time.
Here in Slovakia a can of greatCzech beer in Lidl is 1 euro 40cents and 90 cents when on offer. It's better than any UK lager but no ales here unless you go to the off license where it's pricey. The wine here is better than any I've had in the UK at just 5 euros for a bottle from 2017. The cheap stuff is still ok at 4 or 3 euros a bottle. The local good stuff was on offer at Christmas at less than 2 euros a bottle.
We used to go to pubs locally when a round with friends cost £25 on a Friday night, not anymore it would be at least twice that. A bottle of wine indoors is what we run to now, our local pub is closed down and up for sale. Unless they become restaurants or offer good pub grub and bed and breakfast in a decent area they have little hope of surviving.
Pubs are just too expensive. Even the 'cheap' ones. It costs too much for a beer and you can't smoke in pubs anymore. In the 90s pubs were overfilled with people watching local rock bands. Bar staff couldn't pour the beers fast enough. Pubs are as boring and sterile as a Doctors waiting room these days.
As it stands, if just 1% of people who watched this video went and bought a pint in this pub - it would be 1,170 pints sold.
Let’s support the local!
FYI - Spoke to the landlord and the pints are NOT £7 lol (people are talking about pubs nearer to where they live).
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Spot on! I go to the pub regularly, but only for food and company because alcohol doesn't 'agree with me. That makes me feel like an outsider in the pub sometimes. Perhaps that's one of the reasons for the lack of footfall? The drinking culture seems like it's 'part of being British, but beer can easily trigger health problems due to the sugar and alcohol, so the kind of drinking that supports landlords has become widespread these days. I used to go out with a mate and he is a drinker, so I was having two or three pints regularly, but my health sufered. So I can't attend that nice pub in Morley unless they start serving food again. In the meantime I have to stick with Wetherspoons, also for economic reasons as others have mentioned.
Cheers
When I was a kid, if you wanted to meet the opposite sex you went to a pub. Even if you didn't get lucky, you could have a great night out without breaking the bank. Now people hook up online. You can't smoke in pubs, and a few drinks, a bite to eat and a cab home costs a small fortune. People also seem more guarded, less friendly and more interested in their phones than in the people around them.
Agree with all your points except smoking. I'd rather NOT breathe in toxic fumes thank you. But yes, we do need to save this part of British culture if we can
@@shaz2761 I get that - and actually I prefer it if my clothes don't reek of smoke. It's also a fact that smoking bans started the decline of the British pub. I reckon the other factor was people bringing carloads of cheap booze over from France and Belgium and flogging it on. A boozy night in cost peanuts...
@@A.Mardle the smoking ban was another nail in the coffin, but it all started just after the 80's miner strikes. Working class venues are where all strike action and protest used to be planned.
Solution? convince everyone that they can buy their way up the class ladder with credit and sell the lifestyle through the TV............... This worked until the internet came along in the early 2000's (remember the 80's? the decade of becoming middle class?), at which point most of us remember the media doing their best to scare people away from using the internet, but now instead they pump as full of hatred and division via clickbait "news" (lies).
Divide and conquer.
@@shaz2761 The pub should have the option to allow or not allow smoking or perhaps compromise with a non-smoking section. I say this as a non-smoker that gets headaches if around smoke too much.
Yep
I’m 62 and I have watched the mechanical destruction of the working class, its values and culture and our replacement. It’s deliberate and planned.
Great music by the way, keep it up 😊
I agree, it is deliberate and planned as is the destruction of the rest of our heritage and culture to make way for an Islamic state that's easier to brainwashed with religion.
Same age, Australia, mirror image. Our population is smaller, but % are comparable. This is global.
HIYA..STEVE..70.YEARS..IT.STARTED..WI.THW.WORKIN.MANS.CLUBS...YEARS...AGO
@@aidjunkie5335 What do you think you’ve been replaced by?
The decline of working class venues started after the miners strikes in the early 80's. Now everyone wants to think they're middle class, they have to think a certain way, avoid working class venues, go to trendy gastro pubs to show off their rented German cars. It's all about the destruction of the working class for the purpose of control and profit.
Don't paint a pub battleship grey and charge £7 a pint.
What is a 'pub battleship'?
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I hope you're trolling?
@@fraggit Yes, just a silly question. Sorry.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Thank gawd for that.
I've been to a few "pub battlegrounds" back in the day.
Good God £7 a pint is that what pubs are asking these days no wonder they are closing. I do believe that Labour took a penny off a pint but as landlords had to pay extra national insurance tax the price may have had to go up but £7 omg not for me !!
It's really sad and it's deliberate, they do not want us congregating!
True.
Everyone congegates online now
Thanks to Charlie boy and Schwab and their WEF motto for the common people - you will own nothing, you will go nowhere and be happy.
Here we all are to prove it - would be nice if we were all at the pub.
The UK government don't want us going to the pub and chatting about how the country is going down the pan!
They can freely monitor our comments online instead!
No, it's just greedy landlords.
In that case they will stop us from going to work
Paranoid BS. I’ve been watching the decline of pubs as a line going down that exactly follows the line going up.
What does the line going up show? Supermarket beer, drink drive bans, smoking bans, gyms, home gyms, video games, 50” TVs, retail parks, home video, internet.
Job done. Capitalism wins, people buy and pursue what they want. As the choice widens, so does the market dictate who stands and falls.
That’s not the reason. You can do that online. The government doesn’t want the plebs drinking alcohol. They want them up early, working long hours and being obedient little economic units. No grumbling, no striking, no hangovers, just obedience and work.
The working class have been sanitised and kept in their houses. We've all been played.
Sounds like something from a Black Mirror episode lol
@RyanSmithSounds It is 😅.
Another British institution attacked, while the supermarkets sell cheap alcohol, people were encouraged to buld back garden bars (notice the council haven't paid much attention to that - despite many being converted into living accommodation). Streets are dead at 10:30pm these days. No street lights late at night either. Home gyms, home cinema, home bar - home prison with the electronic door locks looming...all planned.
To right mate - they've used licensing, social tech and even the supermarkets to separate the people.
@@voxintenebris6367”all planned”
😂😂 bullshit it’s just rich people doing what rich people do. Capitalism works. They find ways to earn money and they do it, and people follow along because they like to buy stuff and like to do stuff on the cheap. Back in the early 1990s pub landlords were complaining about Blockbuster video and supermarket beer. “It was all planned” 😂. No, people just preferred to spend less and rent a video and buy a six pack for home rather than two pints in the pub
Pubs are closing because people can't waste there hard earned money on overpriced drinks.
Simply put and absolutely bang on.
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@2icelollys1goat I know I noticed after, just thought I'd leave it, hey ho.
I live in S Devon and the beer is about 4 .50 a pint ,the local pub was also crowded with generally older people not youngsters so when they go the pubs go unless the younger generation change their habits. @@RyanSmithSounds
Do you think that they are profiteering because the price these pubs are being charged for the drinks they sell has increased in some cases 100% over the last couple of years. Pubs have to charge this to make margins and they then go out of business because no one can afford to go out. If they don’t then they don’t make their margins and still go out of business.
Hospitality is done, the industry needs government help and quick.
Years ago people could work to live a fairly decent life, get married, bring up a family and not have to give up small luxuries like pubs, clubs,etc. Now, because of corporate greed people are working to survive only. Nothing to build on or look forward to.
@@DessieTots You could do it on one wage 50 , 60 years ago .O.K. ,no car , no foreign hols , but a factory job would give a family of four a goodish life .
Yeah...and they wonder why depression and suicide rates have gone up.
Totally agree. This is why everything is disappearing - no one can afford it anymore.. funny how 'trickle down economics' seems to be concentrating the money into a small minority, and yet the majority still vote for it, while moaning that they can't afford anything
Perhaps mire mass LEGAL immigration will save us?
It's not "corporate greed", it's your government destroying the purchasing power of your currency through deficit spending and the inflation it creates. The same thing is happening in the US.
I’m a dying breed I’m 20 years old and not many others my age go to the pub I spend most nights hanging out with people in their 50s having a good laugh getting good advice on life and relationships the rest of my generation turns to Reddit which explains a lot tbh I hope that these wonderful places come back because they are magical
Legend! Keep it real mate
This is so true - I have never got on board with Reddit myself. Would much rather speak to real people in the boozer. At least then you can suss out if they are full of crap lol
The price of a pint is too expensive now.
It can be really steep in places now. But like someone else said recently, the spoons does well enough to keep it reasonable. Maybe the local and the brewery that owns it can do something to help stem the problem.
Done on purpose
@@RegDHarris that's why they've been trying to introduce the smaller measures like the scooner.
Would you still support the pubs if you had to drink more pops or fruit juices?
@@voxintenebris6367they are dearer than the alcoholic drinks sometimes.
£7•25 a pint might be a good reason 😢
The smoking ban didn't help either 😔
That is mental! I wouldn't be going if being charged that much either. Looking at nearly a fiver in Leeds at the minute, unless you are stepping into places that consider themselves a bit more up market. That is in my experience anyway.
Two Tesco ciders and a east euro beer all above 8% is £4 prime movies your set at home
@@lc6730the smoking ban improved the inside of pubs, cafes, buses, etc. Most of us hate smoke from cigarettes. We don't mind the vape smells from vapes, though. The smell of smoke always put me off pubs, etc. it was horrible back then. Obviously smokers didn't mind it back then at all, though. They didn't consider how it was for non smokers, though, did they? They didn't give a ****.
And him Gigging.
In the 1980s the atmosphere felt like you was welcome i remember when i was young teens the pubs was busy you see a cloud of smoke once you walked in all kinds of flavours even cigars, you hear laughs and people was drunk, the taste of genuine pork scratchings, the music was amazing you could find a partner and new friends the socialising was a blast and the Pub hotpots OH my lord and this was in london by the way
You do occasionally see the same kind of atmosphere but it does now seem seldom. Obviously we don't have the smoke in the place these days - some have said that is part of the problem but I am not sure myself.
Yeah totally, i was in Lindon in Soho pubs most nights, brilliant, cram packed, smoke filled warm lighting not " eco friendly too bright LED in sight, everyone looked good in that haze of " cigarettes and alcohol " ! They have just done everything to kill pubs and the British lifestyle and culture !
London pubs sound horrific in the 80's. No, a nice country place with a roaring fire, a tired dog after a good walk, a few good friends and a chatty barmaid you'd like to take home, but the wife probably wouldn't approve. Bliss. 😊
It was acceptable in the eighties
@@des_smith7658 (Harry Enfield voice) Calvin Harris. NO!
I have been a beer drinker all my life and aged 73, I cannot afford to drink anymore, the price of a pint is what's killing pubs. That's down to government and greedy company's that own the pubs, I do not blame individual landlords. I will also add that I will not go to any pub with screaming kids running around
Agreed re the screaming kids. Pubs were once the domain of adults with the kids in the car with a bottle of pop and a packet of cheese and onion. Now pubs are family friendly theme parks. (To be fair it's not the pub's fault they have screaming children running around, it's the hopeless parenting of the twenty first century!)
Very true!
20yrs ago I'd go to the pub 3 times a week and not think anything of it. Now just one night in a pub can easily cost me £50.
£5 for a glass of wine at one of the 3 pubs in my area; the cheapest £3.25. Co-op does a bottle for £5.25 so I go for that most the time..😐
Facts, I go out on my own and £50 to 60 just drinking on my own " you make a good point "
@@nafs53yes this is so spot on, you can get a bottle of Champagne in the supermarket, for less than a night out in the local " very good point "
This is so true. This is why we need one in walking distance to save on the taxi fare. At least then you can still drink and get that kebab on the way home.
In 98 a friend told me he'd spent £40 in the pub the night before and I didn't believe him
What put me off pubs was letting kids in for family meals. Kids didn't used to be let in
As long as they're not running around knocking tables then I don't mind. Although a kid did knock my table one time and I just about grabbed hold of the glass, The mother gave me a look that said "kids eh" rather than an apology. That wasn't as bad as 2 women walking into a boozer with a pram, buying drinks and then proceeding to change the kid's crappy arse. I finished that bevvy and started to walk out and one of them said to her mate "what's his problem?". I'd have thought that it was perfectly clear, I'd worked all week and was having a quiet Friday bevvy with the paper and then I have to smell somebody else's kid's arse.
In places like Wetherspoon kids are not allowed after 7pm and my local pub kids are not allowed in at all , and 2 other pubs not local do not allow kids in at all , so I think it’s only restaurants type pubs like Wetherspoon .
I'm a taxi driver in South Tyneside, our seaside town used to be buzzing, I remember coaches coming in from Newcastle, Durham all over the NE, we couldn't just walk into a bar you had to queue to get in it was a brilliant time and I'm talking mid 80s to the 90s. Our pubs used to be fun pubs, bar staff dancing on the bar, girls up on the stage when its their birthday it was a laugh but now they play music and charge ridiculous amounts of money to just sit in a cold bar because they cant afford to put the heating on.
Back then I was on rubbish wages yet I could go out 4 nights a week, we used to go for a pint in our lunch break and after work on Friday before heading home to get ready for the pub crawl. With this in mind it is purely down to the cost now and this in turn has turned the people away.
Other factors to consider, back in the day we didn't have mobile phones so we all went out to catch up on what had been going on through the week but now people text every second of every day and they don't know how to chat any more.
This is the biggest problem in home entertainment, we all have 100s of tv channels to watch but back in the 80s we had 4 channels and after midnight you found it hard to watch anything, my highlight was watching the Hitman and Her after Saturday night clubbing. Want to watch a film in the 80s thats not on tv, you had to walk to the video shop to hire one, again now you have 1000s to watch without getting off your backside.
Now alot of people have their own garden bars and this happened because of the lock down, I have one and tbh I prefer going in there now than hitting our dismal town centre because not many bars left its all so sad, I drop of lots of people that go home early to do just this because of the state of the town, I have actually been invited in to look at their creation, hell some of them have even told me to park the car up and have a beer with them, ohhhhh how tempting that is lol.
To sum it all up cost of drinks in boring pubs and multimedia has ruined everything. Anyone on minimum wage after tax and NI you are spending almost an hours wage on one drink its crazy.
I am so glad I was a teen in the 80s and had the best time of my life, not many kids can say that now.
I will be putting videos on my new channel (South Shields and Beyond) showing my town soon, that is when I get used to editing and working out everything and get people on there lol.
I stayed in South Shields a number of times in the eighties and really enjoyed it, I look forward to watching your channel.
Totally agree with you mate the 80s and 90s were brilliant going out on a Friday I'd finish work at 2.30pm and me n my work mates would have a few up to around 5pm then we'd usually go home get some food n a shower change etc then out again maybe a club till 2am.😊 then same out on a Saturday night. Sunday I'd go to my local in afternoon 11am till 3pm. Then back out 7pm till bell at 10 30pm.😅
Loads of good points, although, it must be said, if you're not on the bus routes, taxis in our Edinburgh area are extortionate for those on minimum wage, or only a pound or two over min wage hourly rate.
@@KevinRudd-w8s thank you, I'm trying to get over the feeling silly talking to myself in public ATM 😂 but I will get there
Beer man made water and hops dearer than petrol … that’s why the pubs are closing … our club is now dearer than getting a pint down town in the pub
I’m exactly the same way. Once the pub on my estate went the community spirit went too, once it’s gone you’re not getting it back.
social cohesion takes decades to build, and can be destroyed in months.
They knocked it all down
use to be an afordabel pass time , gone the way smoking has gone
Sad day though when a pub is the heart of a community.
They know it. This has all been fabricated.
My late father could fill any pub he managed. His secret, good staff, they made people welcome, no juke box, no music, no TV, no quiz, just great beer, generosity, warm smiles & art of conversation! Same pub now, bar person looked straight through me, no acknowledgement, straight back onto her mobile! = empty pub!
Unfortunately not today.
Grumpy staff are big reason I don't use pubs anymore. Young barmaids are more interested in their phones than the needs of the customer.
Very true - the staff are getting paid so little and don't really want to be there.
You can appreciate the cyclical nature of your argument. Even if they get paid so little (which I don’t accept), bad service means less customers. Less customers means no job. Your gripe about wages doesn’t hold up.
@ they generally don't care about the job, if the pub shuts it's no skin of their nose - on to tesco or whatever else is available. The old pub landlord/lady was more invested for obvious reasons
£6 a pint, £14 for a burger and chips and £12 each way for a taxi - it's no wonder no one goes to the pub anymore. Sadly it's governments fault - failed to control the price of electricity, ramped up minimum wage, ramped up employers NI, added massive tax to drinks. Most pubs can barely afford to keep the lights on.
how stupid complaining about minimum wage then complain pubs to expensive. It is this stupidity that allowed Reagan & Thatcher, Trump politics in to attack the unions allow corporation to become monopolies and kill antitrust- the middle class from 65% to25% cut corporate tax from 70%to 25%. The money and power is concentrated in the rich corporation buying lobbyists cause the poor cant afford them. You and the politicians sold yourself and every generation after out because you did not protect your community eg local shops killed by amazon. Probably my fault too.
All going as planned. As puppet masters at WEF old sausage fingers and heir Schwab say - you will own nothing, you will go nowhere and be happy.
The working class are out of cash .... no good jobs high taxes fuel and life is not working anymore
It really does seem that way. I know a lot of people feeling the pinch but at the same time buy everything on credit which only makes everything hard each and every month. People buying fast fashion with Klarna is madness.
I think it's simply that people are skint now and having to literally watch every penny
So true that. Sad times indeed. Especially for those who run the places - they really are going to feel the pinch.
People also work longer than the old days (through to the 70s). 9 to 5 meant it in those day - not 8 till 6 then 90 mins to get home. People are too knackered to spend their evenings drinking. And there's the no-smoking, and the drink-driving aspects, and employers won't let you get in late. In my day, it was perfectly OK to take the odd day off with a hangover. Try that now.
Also its the mix of the workforce, id say more in the north. For example your Muslim friend wont come for a drink, that single mum or dad got too many things going on. The older divorced chap is probably just doing enough to get by. Nobody finishes at the same time , different shifts etc. Combine tht with the expensive drinks and the cost of living @sambda
Buying iPhones and subscription and debt
Skint in the 1980s this is the government's doing want you at home not talking face to face
Almost as though our Governments don't want us having untraceable conversations about politics,and discussing our oppressors.(New proposed banter law =more encroachment too)It's all deliberate erosion of social cohesion,and therefor reliance on state."My two penneth"
This is just the foundational groundwork, to the new order.
In a nutshell.
Exactly. Govt have long wanted to destroy English culture. Slowly but surely they are getting it right. Country is getting ready for take over…
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Yeah your right they don't want us congregating, you can't say f all these days about anything
Myself and 3 friends went out just before Christmas for a Chinese buffet and the hope of playing a bit of pool afterwards. The Chinese buffet had just us 3 and another table with 2 people on it, the entire time we were there. We then tried to find a pub that had a pool table. We didn't stay long at the first pub as the pool table was being occupied by about 5 guys who you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alleyway. In fact, the whole pub had about 7 people in it who all looked like they had never worked a day in their life and the pub appeared to be their nightly retreat.
We then moved on to another pub which had just us and one other person in it. As a fellow musician, I can completely sympathize with what you experienced here. We used to play a very popular pub in Cheltenham, which was absolutely packed from front to back, whenever we played there. About this time last year, the landlady decided to move on as the brewery wanted her to increase the price of beer to £7.50 a pint! There is roughly a third of tax on a pint of beer, which means about a £1.35 tariff on every pint that a pub sells. As usual, the only ones coining it in is the government!
It’s absolute madness. They treat pubs and small businesses like cash cows.
Are you still playing?
@@RyanSmithSounds yes but try to mainly play clubs and weddings, festivals, private functions and corporate events. Pubs just don't have the outlay any more to pay bands properly. A solo artist can earn more than any member of a 4 or 5 piece band. Solo musicians usually get £150 or more per gig, while someone in a band will get about £70-80 on average per pub gig.
I'm American and read something about how many of these ethnic UK barber shops and restaurants are mainly for "cleaning" dirty cash.
A third of nothing is nothing, though. What is the point of whacking up the tax on a pint of beer in a pub if it means nobody is buying any more?
In Australia it is basically too expensive to drink in a Pub , they will all close down here eventually
The way it is heading over here too.
It’s incredibly expensive, and the worst is the pubs don’t make any money on the price!!!
It’s taxes!!!
Reduce taxes at all costs please !!!!!
This government doesn’t understand increasing taxes leads to poverty!
They understand it very well. But that's the goal
Taxes on what or whom? You don't say, Mr Zionist.
Pub beer is three times the price of the same beer from the supermarket.
The government has slowly made people poorer over the years. Most people's disposable income has fallen, some badly. The lockdowns made people used to drinking at home in isolation. The government also hasn't helped with business rates and additional taxes. R.I.P British pubs 🇬🇧.
I'll tell you why pubs are closing, Its because we are sick and tired of pubs showing sports all around he venue. I want to watch music videos or listen to the jukebox. I hate being forced to sit with the noise of a sports match blaring out. Wheatherspoona beer prices would help also
Great shout - there is a happy medium to find for sure.
I dont bother with pubs now cause off the amount of televisions on and the sport. From an entertainment perspective Sports are just cartoons for the kids.
You're going to the wrong pubs. There are loads of nice pubs and bars that don't show sport. Some of those pubs are doing well, and some of them are having the same struggles as this one. Showing sport isn't a factor into why pubs are dying.
@alexbickers8388 not in my town. Every single one ive been in or seen from outside have huge screens with bloidy football on them!
Well said,I see a great looking proper pub I walk through the door to find it's been gutted televisions everywhere and all the beer sold is garbage,it probably all comes from one big barrel with different things added as it's squirted out
Don't even get me started on bad poors zombie dead staff and the all time killer card payment only
I walk out
My issue is that to have a soft drink being on medications cost similar to a pint! Business rates overheads of gas and electric etc means that an average pub needs £100k before they start. Those that can afford to drink out or have a nice meal would rather go to a wine bar or bistro and pay £60 as a couple for proper food and nicer drinks rather than pay £40 for some microwaved and out of packets crap. I went to one independant pub on dartmoor and they advertised a slow roasted lamb shank with roast potatoes and fresh seasonal steamed veg for £32. I asked to see the chef and made out that i really loved the lamb, the bar staff were happy letting me into the kitchen, i asked how long he had been a chef etc and i said was he happy serving what he had, he said he has to cook to a cost or loose his job, it was a chefs larder lamb in mint gravy £4 from cash and carry with 2 jacks (tesco brand) microwavable roast potatoes, with a microwavable steamed veg bag and some plastic tub gravy. This is the state of pubs and their situation. If they did it for £15 i wouldn't have minded but that is a con job. Hence no return custom.
The greed of the breweries is a massive factor. The landlords have to pass the price to the punters ...eventually they stop going and spend their money on weed and cheap Tesco beer.
Bang on the money. Plus YT lap top company is more intellectually stimulating than Pub talk.
I do
@@nw8000 Plus on internet every night a different woman seduces me without chit chat or buying drinks.
lol the cheapest can tesco does is £1 for a crappy cider. You can get cans for 33c in the french supermarkets, and some of them arent bad.
Better to just go over to france/belgium a couple of times a year than give the theives at tesco your hard earned.
I don't blame them, I do too. Why would I want to go to a pub and drink brain damaging liquid?
In central London a bar I can't remember the name charges £9.20 a pint of nothing special just bog standard lager. After 10:00pm they add an extra 70p to the cost of each pint so you're looking at £9.90 for a pint of say Fosters or whatever it is. Unbelievable!
That is astonishing!
It's pretty much the same prices here in the West country in Bath and surrounding towns. However, you have to consider the high business rates and the energy costs now to run a pub.
Omg
A weeks wage used to go far. Now, every penny is being squeezed dry.
I’ve worked in the pub trade since 1997 - we keep our prices low, put out free nibbles for the punters, organise quizzes and raffles but the interest is just lessoning as the years past by - I noticed the start of the major decline started in 2007 when the no smoking ban came in , another pub in the same area mainly serves food closes at 9.30 after the food has finished because they don’t have the drinkers in anymore - you are very right when you say people will go to trendy bars and pay silly prices rather than support small local pubs - they will be sad one day when they’ve all gone.
People will kick themselves. I suspect the few remaining ones will lap up the custom just because they become novel.
Everything started going down hill when smartphones and face book arrived,people changed and not for the better.
It started in the 1980s lumbering the working class with cheap mortgages.
People don't want to be recorded and put on the Internet
Nailed it Machines. That is a giant element in this sorry equation.
Thats exactly what I think as well. And Ive lived through all the times at 75!! I even used to think the downfall of humanity was the invention of electricity......... but then I was a full time hippy .😂😂🤪
Pubs and clubs, were our Facebook. You had to go out to one, to make relationships, hear the local gossip, and generally put the world to rights.
Another reason is that we are all suspicious of strangers. My dad worked away in london every week, as a jobbing painter. He could go into any local knowing there would be men he could chat to. Try going to a pub now and trying to talk to strangers!
Many “strangers” cannot speak English fluently or at all. Multiculturalism is our greatest “enrichment“.
Ha - so true. You still get some friendly ones though that you can chat to - but people get so weird about talking to new folk these days. I think phones and covid have done that to people.
Our culture is making way for other cultures that haven no interest in Britishness let alone the pub.
I'm sat in paying the electricity bill. When I do venture out for a bit of mental relief, I find pubs as empty as this with miserable staff who dont make me feel welcome. I stand by the fruit machine sup my pint fairly quickly and clear off home. Its no wonder many of them are closing
Completely get that. Maybe if pubs opened specific hours then people would aim for those times and it might inject some atmosphere into the place
@@RyanSmithSounds That's what they used to do. 10am - 2pm. 6pm - 10.30/11.00pm. Then Blair had the bright idea of not restricting opening hours. . . .
@@charlieb6001some of you would blame Blair if you done a wet fart lol my local was open all day up until about 10 years ago.
A pub I used to go to would charge £24 for a large bottle of Lidl Prosecco, yes he bought it in Lidl for around £6 he also would not put the heating on and people would have to sit in there in hats and coats, then he wondered why most of the people left and would go next door to the warm cheaper traditional pub.
My local just shut down last week. Very sad indeed. Good content and excellent playing / singing.
Thanks Allan. This is what I’m worried about. I’ve seen a fee close myself and if we don’t do something soon, we will lose them all.
People don't go out drinking anymore. There's a new demographic in town that dont do that.
People who frquently visit Alan's snack bar?
Pubs began dying when pints went over £4, put on life support when smoking was banned, and died when the pint went above £6.50
RIP traditional English pubs.
Just got suggested this video randomly. I have to say what an amazing voice and talent you have Ryan. Good luck for the future. Such a shame these historical British institutions are closing down.
Thank you so much for your comment - I am hoping to really put some more time into my music this year. Turning 30 made me take it seriously and I managed to record and release 6 songs last year - here is to 2025 lol
It really is a shame - I hope we can hold on to as many as possible.
You have a Brilliant voice, I love your music style. 🙌👍
A lot of boozers don't help their cause either. The times i popped into a pub for a pint and the bar staff hardly even acknowledged me. No friendly smile, and forget a bit of conversation. They should be more appreciative of someone entering their premises and spending £7 for a pint of their beer. Its imperative that they make their clientel feel welcomed. Its should be a different experience from shopping in tesco.
Exactly !! - The only words I get are “Cash or card ?”, spoken by some little shit in a surly tone.
@@neilclark1681And pubs should also be cash only!
£7 a pint? Thank god I don't live where you do.
I pay £3.80 in a proper old fashioned boozer. Most pubs round me are about the same price too.
I think you've hit the nail on the head, people do have money to spend but I think customer service is key. There is a pub near me that was always dead because the service was drab. Since it was takeover 2 years ago it is thriving everyday, mainly because the owners look after you and play some absolutely banging music if there is no singer on. They'll remember your name, chuck you a free bag of crisps or nuts after you've had a couple, which makes you stay for a couple more, all for the sakes of a cheap bag earns them an extra wine and a beer or 2. Makes a big difference and makes you feel welcome and wanting to come back.
@Richy91
You're dead right. They need to employ staff who can converse with their clientele. No customers, no business.
Pub goers money now goes to Virgin, Media, Vodafone, Gritish Bass, The council, the government , the water board and the car insurance policy. We are done and we allowed it to happen by voting Red/ blue all the time.
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You forgot to include Netflix - another multi channel drain on people’s limited resources. Same old “entertainment“.
No good moaning about it. We allowed to happen. It will be the same with digital currency.The people who pay for half a lager with their phones, will be moaning in five years time how their lives are totally controlled.
CASH is KING. Always use CASH as CBDC will destroy humanity.
I refuse to pay the prices anymore. This government and previous has done nothing to help with cost of living, it will continue.
Pubs have endured a few decades of severe and concerted politically-driven pressure. The extortionate price of a pint is not the choice of the pub - it's tax and monopolised supplier costs. Supermarts don't face these problems, so people drink at home. My household disposeable income is fast reducing thanks to wage cuts, tax and energy costs. I would love to be able to afford to nip into lovely pubs for a few beers with friends, but this is now an irregular luxury - thanks to this and the last govt 😢
The average disposable income is now at its lowest for 25-30 years.
There are many reasons, some of these are:- the smoking ban; the high prices; the fact that most are now glorified restaurants with wide-screen sky sports and screaming kids; said kids suddenly aren't their parent's responsibility once inside one of these pseudo-pubs; dogs allowed in areas where food is served; unwanted noise (some call this music) piped to every corner of every room- even to the toilets. Then there's the issue of getting there and back. No; I used to love going to pubs but that was so many years ago. I always drink at home, where I can light my pipe; no kids; no dogs; no noisy fruit machines; no piped pop 'music' nor live two-chord wonder 'music', but lots of tasty beers brewed by myself at 20p per pint.
I can walk to my local village pub in 10 minutes, order a pint and a wine for £14. Or I can wall into town in 40 minutes and order a pint and a wine from "spoons" for £6. That's why locals are closing.
To be fair, you can't go wrong with a spoons. Maybe the local and their brewery owners need to take stock.
40 mins ?! To me , that's going on holiday.
What is Spoons? Wetherspoons? That is a Supermarket right?
@@MbisonBalrogWetherspoons is a pub chain that sells food and drink generally quite a bit cheaper than other pubs.
@@truthmerchant1 yes I looked. Is more akin to restaurant that has bar. Like with American casual dining chains. Is this a suitable substitute for English pubs? Do Pubs normally have extensive food menus?
When I was a teen people used to go out to drink. Now people drink to go out as prices are so expensive in the pubs and restaurants. It's now only for a rare treat or special occasion.
This is true. Going from a little and often thing to weekend treat.
That's why I drink in Wetherspoons,£2.20 a pint
@seanknapton7449 Yes, that's very true. I don't have one in our town. I wrote to Wetherspoon suggesting he open where our seafront had a large looming gap that the council had delayed to do anything with for years, and the council must have been approached as all the licensed vintners in our town when they got wind of it scuppered the plans by threatening to close if they did and council bowed down to local business pressure. There is one in the capital city but its a 24 mile round trip by car or train, so you are very lucky! Their beer is a great selection & cheap.
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366I do love a Wetherspoons
@ I like some Wetherspoons pubs as well. When they first came to my old town, the biggest effect was to make the existing places smarten up their act, and two pubs that really were rubbish shut down. Altogether a positive influence.
I spent much of my youth pubbing around my local surrounding towns with a good 5 or 6 mates at least 3 times a week. It was the best time of my life - mind you this was when a pint was £1.80. Feel sorry for the youngsters these days because they will never truly appreciate the level of fun I had.
If you watch an old episode of Coronation Street from the 1960s or 1970s, you'll notice that for many residents, the best option for leisure, if they could afford it, was to visit the Rovers Return. Their homes were small, with limited amenities and little in the way of entertainment. In contrast, the pub offered warmth, a welcoming atmosphere, and the chance to socialize with friends and enjoy a laugh. It was an obvious choice-why stay at home unless you have to?
This is true - people are very fortunate to have a lot of home comforts these days. There really isn't the need to leave, especially when you can get a four pack for less than a fiver.
@RyanSmithSounds exactly. Congratulations on making such a successful video, it's really inspired.
@@nickroberts990 Thank you - I appreciate that :)
I just DJ in a large bar in my local city, and I had four ladies on a family reunion on the dance floor on and off all night. Few others that were mainly scrolling on their phones. The fact, it’s January plays a big part, but at the end of the day, young people just can’t afford to spend money in pubs & I don’t see why you should pay over £2.50 for a pint in any pub. I guess to me a pub is something you enjoy when you’ve got an excess of money to spend. Especially if you’re expected to buy rounds because that’s gonna be at least £10-£30 per round for a small group of friends. The main root of the whole cost of living issue for me is overpriced housing.
@@danwiddison A lot of young people haven't got much money because they have been sold a lie by various governments that they all needed go to university etc and everything would be fine, they would all end up with good high paid jobs. Some do of course but an awful lot of the ones I meet haven't been so lucky. The truth is the vast majority of jobs that used to be taken by school leavers fifty odd years ago have gone due to short sighted government policies over the last four or five decades so the government came up with an idea to massage the youth unemployment figures by getting the kids to stay on at school and then go on to college or university, where of course they rack up a load of debt unless they have well off parents. I remember people warning about the inevitable outcome of the policies that have led to this forty odd years ago. They were of course dismissed at various times, by both Labour and Tories, as being little Englanders, Marists, Fascists, right wing Loonies, left wing loonies and more, maybe they were, but they have been proven right and the country is now in an absolute mess.
Most people who go into a pub are wealthy people, I'm close to 60, apart from wakes held in a pub, I haven't been out or been able to afford to go out, the cost of survival is killing our budgets, I earn above average wages, but as a single person, my money doesn't allow me enough to afford to go out and have a pint at the local, not that I would as our local is full of wealthy people who drink to excess and just want to have a fight, on the odd occasion that I fancy a drink, I go round the corner to the Eastern European shop and try out different beers, I can buy 6 different beers for the price of a pint in the pub, sadly, all the good pubs closed around 2007 when smoking was stopped, even as a non smoker myself, I noticed that it killed off the pub trade
The pub was always a place for SOCIAL GATHERINGS people sharing ideas on events locally, nationally or globally wether that be personal interests such as sport etc or conflicts. Since COVID anyone paying attention can see they need to stop social gatherings so people then have to share ideas online, that way gathering information on citizens to identify who is on board with the government narrative or who the enemy is. Pricing us out of public houses is one way of going about it just like they will do with personal transport.
100%
It's the same everywhere. And the beer is getting weaker and weaker. 😢😢😢😢
Not in Sedgley. Ruby mild6%. £4.10 😊
Tax on alcohol content - recently saw a few products lower ABV because of it.
It has to, the cost of taxi's is too high, I want to be able to drive home after so 2 to 3 pints of 3.5% in 3 hours i'm safe, throw in a 5% beer i'll be over the limit for several hours.
I noticed that.
Apparently, alcoholic drinks used to be far weaker centuries ago, as they were the only way to safely drink water.
Bills have to be paid before a pub visit, no money left to pay extortionate pub prices.
I worked in pubs managing for Whitbread from the 80s to maybe 2010 eventually working for Sheffield University running a bar for them after Whitbread sold all its pubs. While at Sheffield University we talked to a brewery representative trying to get a better deal on our drinks prices, saying we could actually buy a lot of our stock cheaper at supermarkets. The brewery rep agreed and said supermarkets actually take a loss on alcohol for whatever reason. What did every little village used to have? a pub. What do many have now in its place? a Tesco express or similar. Coincidence or the plan all along? who knows.
Loss leader perhaps? Guess it is true that there will always be someone willing to undercut you even if it means bankrupting you both.
No room for pubs in the caliphate.
Pubs were slowly dying before the invasion but a tee total takeover is
not going to help
Spot on matt and from 1970s >,every tack nail in the coffin of " plan for west ,,control from food speech >the real western family unit etc,the reset but there reset ,and for western history's cultures religion values standards laws rules regulations etc to vanish,,but not for us all ??
💯. I wonder will the masses give up their dogs as well??
no room for knuckle draggers on RUclips.
yeah - the number 1 national reason why uk pubs are closing - not.
Many chain owned pubs put in young inexperienced "bar managers" whilst hiking the prices. London prices for poor beer and experience = no customers
Too expensive, by far ,absolutely ridiculous, people may pop out for one or two then head home . People have had enough being ripped off .
This is so true - it can be a pricey night if there for the whole evening. I do like to pop in for a couple through the week with friends when I can though - there are some really nice spots still doing well in Leeds.
@@paularrowsmith9376 Not bad oop North ,c.£3.50 a pint in a normal pub ,a large wine £4,00 , town centre dearer , but £2.20 a pint , in a club .In London in 2022 , my pint , Madame's large red wine £14.60 . The price difference is understandable...rates..staff wages....but that's one reason , as is no smoking , as is smell of cabbage in foodie pubs .
All the council estates had local pub. All gone. Strippers and comedian on Sundays. Happy days in wolves.
Ha! Sounds great!
When I was a student in Brighton in the 1970s at lunch time we went into a pub across the road with strippers. It was full to the gunnels. Happy days
woden rd working mens club in the 80s happy times
If you make a joke about anything these days the woke brigade would be so offended they’d be scrabbling for their phones, stabbing 999 into the keypad, and screaming for the bizzies to drag you away and incarcerate you for life with no chance of parole.
It's sad but but a lot of people can't afford the pub anymore with the cost of bare essentials.
So true. And yet at the same time there are those spending on craft ales at nearly £9 a can! Madness.
@@RyanSmithSounds So called Craft Ale has got to be one of the biggest rip offs going. It's a can of beer for goodness sake, not liquid gold. Most of the beardo's that drink craft ale couldn't find their way to a pub with a map and compass. If they spent as much time in their local as they do in the supermarket aisle looking at canned beer then finding proper real ale would be much easier for them and it would help keep the pub going.
@@RyanSmithSounds I'd also look at it from a different angle, can they really not afford it? Most people saying they can't afford it are ones they have maxed a loan out with the latest car, have all the TV subscriptions going, constantly buying that from Home Bargains or wherever, latest phones etc then wonder why they have no money. We've become a nation obsessed with driving everywhere to some shops we don't need to every weekend. Years ago people were much more chill and just have a walk at weekends and relax down the pub. People do have money they're just spending it on other things or online on amazon.
@@Richy91 maybe in truth people could afford the waste money on over inflated beer doesnt mean they should, its about valuing the time you gave for that money. Not really spending money , you are trading 1hr 1/2 hard work for a round of drinks
It's one of the last few places where we can meet, chat, discuss, laugh, argue, and just communicate, and it's slipping away. We are going down the path of sterile bars and clubs, unable to speak unless it's via texts to the person standing in the same bar. Unable to openly say what you want in case it offends someone.
Having a nation with a spectrum of people and thoughts, be it good or bad, is needed. We are getting pushed into the middle lane where being an individual is frowned upon unless it ticks the boxes of what the current Gov wants. Having pubs close down and funnel youth into cookie-cutter bars/clubs or stay home just helps that alone
I haven't been to my village pub in about 20yrs. In the 90s and early 2000s when I was growing up it was the place to be. A beautiful pub in an idyllic little countryside village. Pool, darts, crib, and domino leagues where we would compete against other pubs in the county so we all got to go to other pubs across the county every Tuesday and Thursday night to compete. Lovely food. Just a great social hub. About 15yrs ago new owners took over and just destroyed the decor and it looks a sorry old state these days. Some of the locals still prop it up, but it stopped being the place to be many years ago. They could easily revive it but the owners just seem to like to keep it as a hangout for them, their family, and a few locals. Then you have the whole thing of people moving on. A friend of mine said he stopped going in there as he doesn't know anyone in there anymore. Everyone we knew is long gone and moved on.
That is sad - I have seen a few places like that. What would they need to do to get you and some of the other locals back in there?
@RyanSmithSounds By creating a time machine. For a lot of people in my social circle pubs just aren't really a thing anymore. Some say pub culture is nothing like it used to be as society has changed. It's too expensive. Or they don't like crowded places since COVID came along.
Was there a lot of obnoxious drunks trying to fight each other? I heard England has a massive problem with that from other vloggers.
@@MbisonBalrog No, none at all. I've lived here my entire 40yrs and never heard of a single fight there. It's a nice quiet village with virtually no crime at all. You can sleep with your doors unlocked. There are rough areas where fights will take place. When you have a drinking culture you will get some violence, especially on the weekends when people go out to blow off steam.
@@MbisonBalrogNo...that is mainly the big cities. Back in the day..the town and back street council estate pubs didn't have trouble. Well..not in my area..maybe in rough neighbourhoods yes.
I’ve been on this earth 67 years and can’t think of one good government we’ve had between labour and the tories. They’ve both been destructive cnuts towards the British people.
It’s the same here in Australia…it’s depressing.
Also, you are an outstanding singer!
In 1963, you could have a good night out in a pub with £1! Keg bitter was about 2 shillings (10p) a pint and 10 cigarettes about the same. That left enough for bus fares if needed. Online tables show inflation over those 60 years has been 2,200% which means a pint should now cost £2.20 a pint in the same pub...if it hadn't been pulled down.
Smoking ban,COVID , criminal price of a pint ,the only pubs getting custom are having to do food bingo quizzes.
The days of the local pub being a one man band are well gone, you can drink cheaper at home than you can in the pub ,get used to it it's only going to get worse
This is true. Even I like a drink at home I will be honest but I would rather be in the pub seeing friendly faces. I think sometimes you can get a few bad apples that spoil the atmosphere in some places too which can be an issue for an already struggling pub.
Can't even have a pint and drive home 🤬
Smoking ban improved pubs massively. Differential between supermarket and pub prices is the killer. Minimum unit price on alcohol is the solution.
@@leemacdonald6533 Come on self driving cars! I wonder what will happen if the law changes to say you can 'drive' fully muntered if it's the car that's actually doing the driving.
I'd be trying to get a self driving car. For the space cadet on the fly picnic opportunities. To be able to just climb in and say, "Home James." and everything would be fine. People do like to have the right to decide what they're going to kill, though. It provides a sense of agency.
As a DJ from the south East who's been around since the early 00s I've seen the decline. I remember DJing locally in Margate for instance, you'd have Escape, Punch and Judy, DV8, Lido, Hades, Frank's etc with Bar 26 open till 6am. What do we have locally now? Naf all! Just loads of gentrified arty farty bars that don't stay open past midnight and a dead Whetherspoons. In Ramsgate the only place thriving now is the biggest Spoons in the UK right on the seafront purely because it's like 2 quid for a pint and 8 quid for a curry.
No one goes out anymore and trying to get your friends and new punters in to your events is even more of a pain because your battling against getting them to even come outside now! Everyone pre drinks, stays out for a few hours then goes home. Everything is expensive and no one has any money, once again government just want us indoors 24/7 that's the plan.
The only places I've seen in past year or so do well is some pubs in Medway usually Rochester with my mates there is a karaoke pub and another pub at the back of it they over looks the castle and another one that's got a dj in with a sticky floor. Everywhere else is flat, boring or dead.
New years eve in Poole me and the gf went out, everywhere dead. We ended up in Lord Nelson, around 12 people in there including us watching a band play their heart out they were damn good but once midnight was done everyone was leaving to go home 😢
Everywhere dead even on NYE is mental. That is usually a sure thing.
@RyanSmithSounds Mate it's really worrying ain't it :( I applaud those who still manage to pull in a crowd doing music or even playing to 1 person. It's all about festivals now but even they are expensive
@@RyanSmithSounds No people cannot see the point of it anymore...including myself.
Nearly £8 a pint, £15 for burger and chips, and this guy is in one of the cleanest pubs I’ve seen in a while. A night out now for a group of 4, say 6 drinks over 3-4 hours with something to eat probably runs to what? £300? Bit stiff I think.
As a biker, myself and 2-3 mates like to ride to 2 different pubs every Sunday within a 20 mile radius, and have a pint in each. If we enjoy the experience there, we go back again at some point. We have a few favourites that we like to support. However, what we cannot cope with is either loud music where you cannot hear yourself talk or pub quizzes where you're frowned upon if you do talk!
This is so true lol Half of the time the DJ has it turned up to ear bleeding levels.
As an Aussie looking on , one thing that occurs to me in Australia at least , is we do have a cost of living crisis happening, And I do think a lot of people just do not have much disposable income these days ( I know I don’t).
I remember back in decades past (yes I’m old) , our pubs would be packed , you’d have to cut through the ciggy smoke with a carving knife😊, last year I went to a nice pub for a meal with my brother , and although there were a few people there, it was decidedly quite .
Given the costs to survive , pay bills , electricity which is horrendously expensive here , pay council land rates, wages , etc , you do have to wonder how many of these places will still be up and running in years to come sadly.
It really is a shame. When pubs lack atmosphere, they struggle to keep the punters in for long which only exacerbates the problem
I’ve noticed a huge change since lockdown.
People got used to staying in and younger people didn’t know any different as they’d not gone to pubs before so were happy to stay in even when it was lifted and they were old enough to go out.
Sad thing is some people think it’s good as it’s too noisy and expensive not realising it’s where people go to socialise and it helps massively with all the social anxiety people have of staying in and not interacting.
Trying to ban smoking in pub gardens wasn’t anything to do with health and safety, it was a sneaky tactic to get people to stay home as they can talk freely in pub gardens and that can’t be censored, controlled or monitored like it can over social media.
Hopefully it will pick up when people can just make a bit of an effort to see people instead of binge watching Netflix with a bag of Doritos, and moaning they have no friends when it’s better for mental health to go out and actually talk to people
Agree with that - the idea of banning smoking in beer gardens was a shock.
@@RyanSmithSounds I'm sure that the idea of banning smoking _inside_ pubs was a shock in 2007, as so many people expressed at the time. But it's still an excellent idea. Why should the small minority of people who insist on blowing dangerous, unpleasant smoke around have the priority? It's not as if they need to do it.
I had been looking at using the Ancestral visa to look at citizenship in Scotland as that's where my grandfather was from. One of the big draws for me was the pub culture. A social gathering spot and the Sunday roasts, all seemed amazing to me. This was 10 years ago. Then things changed and I couldn't pursue it, and now I hear from others who were 3 years into their 5 year required stay, give up and come back to North America. I guess that door is shut now.
@rebeccaturner the majority of people who know how to enjoy themselves drink and smoke,it’s been that way for hundreds of years and you entitled brats have spoiled it,good luck with your non alcoholic beverage 😂
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I was a smoker when it was introduced but to be fair - apart from having to smell other people's farts - it was a change for the better.
Humphrey Smith closed many of the Sam Smith Pubs because they make little money and they can leave the pub empty whilst the land increases in value..many Pub chains make their money on property and land deals, destroying local communities is not their concern
Yes he also banned mobile phones and laptops inside his pubs.
@@awolwakefieldyorkshire and music even the bandits had music turned off
Huge tax rises; smoking ban; kids in bars.
The family pub killed pubs, and of course, the prices.
I walked into a pub last night and if it wasn't for the plan to meet people there, I would have walked straight back out - it felt like a child minders, even in the tap room.
Totally agree. Pubs are for adults. They should be kept that way.
I refuse to go to pubs with children. Adults need places to go that are away from other people's children and babies.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 ..and dogs.
@@philm6629 I like dogs more than I like people.
im a 68 year old mancunian...the pubs in the seventies and eighties, were always packed, from thursday to sunday night...everybody talked, and smoked, and laughed and danced the night away, if they had a juke box...a local, was just that...local people from your area...you knew them all..if not by name, but by face...great days indeed....for what its worth, my opinion about the present pub scene...overpriced and extortionate drinks....the banning (by labour) of smoking...the introduction of wall to wall sports, where you cannot hear yourself think (killing any conversation)...finally social media...all these factors, have drastically impacted the pub scene, and sadly not for the better....just to add...12 of the pubs i used to frequent in my area of north manchester, as well as my local (the berkshire) have all been demolished
Went in to Cardiff for new years eve ,the streets had loads of people around, but the pubs and restaurants were all empty.. could it be the £7 that I was charged for 1 pint .
Why would anyone go to a pub when you can comfortably stare at Netflix, Prime Video, or Disney, 5 hours straight everyday for £20 a month.
And when you do head out, you cant drive 15 mins without passing a McDonald's, KFC, Pizza Hut, Subway, Starbucks, TGI Fridays or Costa.
And when you make a payment you cant avoid Mastercard, VISA, Amex, or Paypal.
Every single one of them are US multinational owned.
American multinationals have bought out the UK wholesale, killed off the high street as well as independent outlets. Pubs have just been caught in the crossfire. The few other well know brands have been picked up by other foreign buyers.
Try buying British. Its next to impossible. Fancy a packet of Walkers crisps washed down with an R Whites lemonade? Newsflash: They're both outright owned by Pepsico. Rowntree Mackintosh? HP sauce? Cadburys? Pretty much every single scotch whisky brand? All gone in the great British sell off. They cant even be called British anymore. Even Pets At Home have Blackrock as one of their main shareholders.
We're all literally working for US shareholders now. No wonder everyone is skint, the NHS is on its knees and the government cant even maintain our pothole infested roads.
Next time you're flying abroad and waiting for your flight at Heathrow or Gatwick airports just remember that they are both completely 100% foreign owned. We've sold off our airports, transport, and utility companies and anything else of substance .
We own nothing.
I am 65 was talking about the boozers to a old mucker of mine, which have closed since are day.its so sad .only plus side we enjoyed the good old days drinking in plenty of pubs. 3:09
It’s so sad isn’t it. Pub culture out. Gym culture in.
@@RyanSmithSounds I was into gyms in a big way but not anymore. Full of wannabe Mike Thurstons & influencer types! Instead I do calisthenics at home. Screw gyms!
Important topic and sounded like good music...My local in Galway, was an extention of my living room for decades, mobbed after work and your local community came thru and interacted probably 6 days in 7 in the old days...Seems society has changed...recently stopped in for a pint and say hello to the ghosts of my friends still sitting at the bar, but only 3 other people...I miss the traditional old sundays, magic...
There's also social changes. After I left school, people walked out to work in their local town, would pop in for a drink before going home if they had worked late. These days we all drive to work from far and wide, and we usually don't live close to our friends. When we do meet we all drive out from different places to what is basically a restaurant, drinking little or no alcohol.
Very true.
Yep we worked where we lived we socialised where we lived local pub working mens club even had a few night clubs we could stroll home from in about an hour no ubers for us 😂😢😅 great times 👍
Can't afford to go to the pub at today's prices😕
There's too much price difference between the average local pub and what Wetherspoons and the supermarkets sell alcohol for
In Wetherspoons you can get a pint of real ale for £2.70 £5 in most other pubs
Wetherspoons £3.70 for a double gin and tonic on promotion
Most other pubs up to £10 for double spirits!
That's the problem
I hate being in the city centre and paying the prices for doubles. If I could afford it, I’d need another to drown my sorrows lol
Internet/social media killed pubs.
Fingers crossed we can do something to save it!
It’s Government policies purposely killing pubs. - Every single decision they make is another nail hammered into the coffin.
to much sport thats why I stopped going.
Big Greedy Brewers.....killed and still killing pubs.... Despite what others may think....Local pubs were an integral part of society.... people mixed...talked...learnt...agreed...disagreed...created standards....and most importantly...Laughed....Shame on you Big Brewers ..
My thoughts too. Maybe there's more to it but my gut says otherwise.
Weatherspoons are booming, though, and it is not crap beer, they buy in bulk
I do love a Spoons. A lot of people reckon they are part of the problem but tbh I think any surrounding pubs should see their model as part of the solution. Trouble is they are brewery owned and prices are often fixed.
Still £5 for a pint of Stella thou.
@@vinceramone6080 Cheapest coffee on the high street though
Same here in Ireland. Pubs are dead, only the overpriced ones in the city centres are doing any business. Very few people can afford a night out anymore. So many pubs have closed in the last few years. Sad thing is they will never reopen. It’s a shame because they are the heart of community’s. Ah well I guess it’s a symptom of the times we live in. Sad really.
Sorry to hear that you’re facing the same problems mate. It’s a sad sight. I hope the local survives for all our sakes.
@ Cheers brother, wouldn’t that be a wonderful thing.
It really is heartbreaking to see the decline of the British pub, if ever a revolution was going to be hatched it was going to be in the local, it was how musicians got started and most importantly where boys went to meet girls, it was the default hook up place, now sadly its all done on line, keep going young fella, you are creating social history.
Mate I get it, the industry is on it's Arse, no one is going out no more which is sad. I hope you get some better gigs that are busy for you, horrible in a venue with zero footfall. Anyway I came across your video in my feed so your spreading which is good. I am a DJ btw at a Corporate Pub chain venue and even I am noticing the dip in footfall. Respect for doing this. Remember #useitorloseit
It is so sad - I am really hoping that we can save what is left of the trade. You’ll know exactly what I mean with that line of work - best of luck to you mate. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Football is carp too nowadays. Had it's peak 2010.
all the funny and interesting peoples smoked, so once they were banned they bcame controlled and joyless places.
Pubs after 2007 immediately stank of stale beer and farts!
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 😅
On the other hand, many people started using pubs when smoking was banned inside them. As a youngster I used to hate the fact that I was choked every time I entered a bar and was fed up coughing sh*t up the following morning. So I just avoided pubs for a few years. I do think however that there perhaps should be areas where smokers can go that are inside ( those pubs that have both a bar and a lounge) could have smoking and non smoking areas that are separate. It’s a bit of an ask expecting customers who smoke to stand outside in the winter or rain for a smoke.
@@markturner6755 each landlord should declare if it is a smoking or not smoking pub, and you enter atr your own risk. tearing away 50% of citizens choice was nothing but tyranny. and without ANY consulation or mandate from the public.
@puppets.and.muppets if only there was such a thing as a non smokers pub back in the days. It certainly was enter at own risk and miserable as a result for non smokers. I’ve seen “smokers clubs” in Germany and they seem to do well.
Certain 'communities' despise pubs, despise Brits, and despise the UK. But not the free money, of course.
Somehow it's always about teetotallers😅
When they stopped people smoking in pubs some of my neighbours started drinking in each others houses,they even started brewing their own beers.
People used to go to the pub for a chat, and have the crack. Problem today is 90% of pubs and bars have music blazing away and you can't hear yourself think. Isn't this an example of what I'm saying?
Just returned from the store with 2 pints of beer $5.00 and tuna sandwich and chips. $4.00. At my local pub around the corner this would be $25+. It is not hard to understand what is happening. There are too many pubs chasing too few customers. When you send all your manufacturing out of the country the nation becomes poorer over time.
Very true. Outsourcing the work is short sighted
Who can afford to drink in a pub these days?
Here in Slovakia a can of greatCzech beer in Lidl is 1 euro 40cents and 90 cents when on offer. It's better than any UK lager but no ales here unless you go to the off license where it's pricey. The wine here is better than any I've had in the UK at just 5 euros for a bottle from 2017. The cheap stuff is still ok at 4 or 3 euros a bottle. The local good stuff was on offer at Christmas at less than 2 euros a bottle.
We used to go to pubs locally when a round with friends cost £25 on a Friday night, not anymore it would be at least twice that. A bottle of wine indoors is what we run to now,
our local pub is closed down and up for sale. Unless they become restaurants or offer good pub grub and bed and breakfast in a decent area they have little hope of surviving.
The smoking ban started it well done yet again Blair
Pubs are just too expensive. Even the 'cheap' ones. It costs too much for a beer and you can't smoke in pubs anymore.
In the 90s pubs were overfilled with people watching local rock bands. Bar staff couldn't pour the beers fast enough.
Pubs are as boring and sterile as a Doctors waiting room these days.
Ha! It can feel like that when they are so empty. There is just no atmosphere half of the time.
Prices too high but why should non-smokers have to breathe in smoker's cancer clouds?