New Logic Pro 11 is Better than FL and Ableton? (First Impressions)

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
  • Come to the Party remix:
    / h7mqxstq259rvmsi6
    » Get All My Sound Kits:
    prodbyocean.com/
    » Get My Plugin Elements:
    bit.ly/elementsplugin
    » My New Production Course - Learn How to Make Beats:
    bit.ly/TTPbyOcean
    » FREE Bundle For Producers:
    prodbyocean.com/pages/oceans-...
    Follow on IG: / prodbyocean
    ✉️ Business enquiries: business@prodbyocean.com
  • РазвлеченияРазвлечения

Комментарии • 346

  • @ScottThePisces
    @ScottThePisces 29 дней назад +73

    Remember guys, don't update without backing up your original Logic 10 - Most Apple updates nearly always break third party plugins

    • @Dubsteppah
      @Dubsteppah 29 дней назад +1

      Solid advice for sure!!!

    • @charleysilva7704
      @charleysilva7704 29 дней назад +2

      How can I do that ?

    • @HITMAN1er
      @HITMAN1er 29 дней назад

      ​@@charleysilva7704open finder. Go to apps. Find logic. Right click. Compress file. You got a back up

    • @asesane
      @asesane 29 дней назад +1

      How do I backup

    • @paz_wav
      @paz_wav 29 дней назад +2

      Legit happened to me. My logic is ruined now

  • @npcdisease
    @npcdisease 29 дней назад +28

    No gui change just cool features
    Love it
    We learned with logic at school might switch to it next year

    • @reflekta_music
      @reflekta_music 26 дней назад

      So did i, im still using it 7 years later

    • @npcdisease
      @npcdisease 26 дней назад

      @@reflekta_music it's a cool daw I learned a lot from it
      My only fault is I don't have a Mac at the moment

  • @jubedayhat3164
    @jubedayhat3164 29 дней назад +11

    The features are so crazy i really love it

  • @xiidc
    @xiidc 29 дней назад +2

    Needed to hear this. Now gonna check em out

  • @billerzproduction641
    @billerzproduction641 27 дней назад

    Thank you for the video it is really informative on what the new features are on logic 11.

  • @ProdRitz
    @ProdRitz 29 дней назад +40

    all we need now is for sounds to play from the file browser whilst the melody is playing...

    • @rxbtrxppy2975
      @rxbtrxppy2975 29 дней назад +2

      Lol word

    • @isaac-739
      @isaac-739 29 дней назад +3

      This was the one thing I wanted from the new update

    • @kb7013
      @kb7013 29 дней назад +13

      We need ghost notes as well

    • @lazell
      @lazell 29 дней назад +1

      is it just me or is it only some sounds that will play in the file browser when you click them? others i have to drag it into a sampler or on the timeline to hear it.

    • @isaac-739
      @isaac-739 29 дней назад

      @@kb7013 you can get them if you select both tracks at once

  • @AyEyeMuzik
    @AyEyeMuzik 29 дней назад +9

    With the keyboard session player, i believe the keys/chords it generates is based on the key you set your session to.

    • @llewellyn.7466
      @llewellyn.7466 29 дней назад +1

      Makes so much sense but didn’t think of that 😂

  • @creatureprod
    @creatureprod 29 дней назад +3

    casually pulls up my two fav songs. im so ready to use the stem bro

  • @Hammerman48
    @Hammerman48 28 дней назад +3

    If some of you guys had started out recording on reel to reel and a mixer with a very basic spring reverb…..you would be super happy to have any modern DAW. I guess you don’t miss what you never had……but the stuff I learned on reel to reel I still use in Logic. Everything else to me is like a bonus. Hell I remember the first drum machines a sequencers……just enjoy the great choices you have today!

  • @BulletproofGroove
    @BulletproofGroove 29 дней назад +3

    Ocean mah guy, great video! get a popfilter on that mic tho, those plosives are gettin´real heavy

  • @CRASS2047
    @CRASS2047 29 дней назад +2

    If you use the chord track, then have the session players follow the chord track, you can pick and change or customize all the chords

  • @gand808
    @gand808 28 дней назад

    Nice, thanks for posting.

  • @paulge1801
    @paulge1801 29 дней назад +1

    Some of the functionality you mentioned were from the previous update (mastering, creating new track), but thanks for the great content!

  • @dg8522
    @dg8522 29 дней назад +3

    And with the Sade, mans got exquisite taste.

  • @Wolfman311
    @Wolfman311 29 дней назад +13

    Music production has been evolving since the beginning. I can only imagine the uproar when all of a sudden multi-track recording came out. Changed the game. Instead of complaining, embrace the change and use it to your advantage. You could spend your time complaining or making music. Your choice.

    • @samwu1836
      @samwu1836 27 дней назад

      Multitrack expanded the objectively limited tools. But it was a tool for the artist who still operated and created manually from the heart. If your comment was you shadowboxing nobody in particular regarding AI, the key critique of AI in songwriting specifically is that it’s less a tool and more a development that strikes at the heart of something so personal to the artist.

  • @LukeReneMusic
    @LukeReneMusic 27 дней назад

    The bass player is actually what I’m most excited about cause I tend to lean towards a live bass sound with my production.. haven’t updated yet to Check it out

  • @planeguy95
    @planeguy95 28 дней назад +3

    In logic you can have it change the project tempo automatically based on an audio file, you just need to change the tempo setting to ‘Adapt Tempo’. Then drag an audio file in and it gives the option to analyse it and change the project to the average tempo

    • @kamilkundera
      @kamilkundera 24 дня назад

      It doesn't work in a way he was talking about. What about a big project and then dragging new loop with another bpm information? You must do this manually with stretching to adjust the tempo of the sample to the tempo of the project ;)

  • @paulvass7516
    @paulvass7516 28 дней назад +1

    You can make it to where all samples Match the protect in smart tempo protect settings, go to set import files to and select ether beat or beat and bar

  • @gavinhammond3137
    @gavinhammond3137 28 дней назад

    Awesome. Can't wait to try it out! Though the mixing and mastering process still needs an overhaul

    • @planeguy95
      @planeguy95 28 дней назад

      In what way? Out of interest. I personally love mixing in logic

  • @Prodmadarabts
    @Prodmadarabts 29 дней назад

    Hard bro 💥

  • @itssandeepa
    @itssandeepa 29 дней назад

    Thank you ❤

  • @kemmii
    @kemmii 27 дней назад

    oh THAT STEM SPLITTER? GOLD.

  • @btrue7386
    @btrue7386 29 дней назад +1

    I have an M2 processor, I had to change to Rossetta in order for my WAVS and NI plug-ins to work properly. Kinda worried about that now I've turned it off.

  • @prodjayz
    @prodjayz 28 дней назад

    btw ocean. u can drag an audio file in and get it the right BPM. When you set BPM, go to custom menu and then it will say KEEP TEMPO, click on that then put align new audio tracks to beats and bar

  • @davidbaron-vega6684
    @davidbaron-vega6684 16 дней назад

    Thanks so much for sharing what you've learned, and super dope remix of a true beach house classic :') ! Would love to learn what you get out of updated Live Loops. Also, as I have a macbook with intel silicon, it appears that the stem splitter feature only works for apple silicon. Hope apple provides an update for this someday. Thanks again!

  • @Jona
    @Jona 29 дней назад

    I tried producing in FL some years ago and left that hobby. Yesterday I randomly watches an FL Studio 11 Update Video + iPad App and I was like duude this is good. Even the iPad Version

  • @RMC.
    @RMC. 28 дней назад +1

    Still deciding to update it or not

  • @SjarMenace
    @SjarMenace 24 дня назад

    Never seen so
    Much excitement out of someones eyes before

  • @lucacaracciolo7395
    @lucacaracciolo7395 29 дней назад

    There’s a setting you can change that will put your samples in time when you drag loops in!

  • @lukassbeataddicts
    @lukassbeataddicts 29 дней назад +1

    I don’t like auto time stretching in Ableton. I wanted to Logic to ask on drop. That would be nice

  • @milesfortner8349
    @milesfortner8349 29 дней назад

    Finally the fixed the finder, I started making drums from scratch the old finder was so annoying

  • @3BeatsProd
    @3BeatsProd 28 дней назад +1

    For the keys change the key of your project at the top

  • @MalcBaskett
    @MalcBaskett 26 дней назад

    Man that library bug was ickin me lol. The fact that now you can preview each one of your sounds/wavs is big for me

  • @Rexthecutecockapoopuppy
    @Rexthecutecockapoopuppy 29 дней назад

    Soooo good 👍🏽🥰

  • @zuvadon
    @zuvadon 29 дней назад

    I always wondered why some wav. files didn't play that's awsome that they fixed that. I wouldn't mind a ghost notes feature stilll LOL

  • @untoldstory176
    @untoldstory176 22 дня назад

    Very Nice!

  • @DordiHOTS
    @DordiHOTS 29 дней назад

    WOW that's epic, logic has always been amazing

  • @MattesSoltysiak
    @MattesSoltysiak 29 дней назад

    Its good to see! Really reminds me of FL though.. stemsplitting, Master and so on..its ai the New wave i guess

  • @LuddeB
    @LuddeB 26 дней назад

    New studio bass is a great addition, however got some bugs aswell now with marquee tool and audio recordings.

  • @NELSON_DIAS
    @NELSON_DIAS 29 дней назад +1

    Yall stop fighting, no matter what yall say but each daw have their own characteristics... FL cam be used for both production and mixing mastering but people usually use fl for beat manking later they take stems and mix master in other daws.. i usually produce in FL and Mix in Studio1 and master back in FL.... according to my preference.. same for yall it might be different.. #Peace ❤

  • @ZackWilliams_TheProducer
    @ZackWilliams_TheProducer 29 дней назад +3

    It sucks that these features aren't available unless you have an M1 Mac. I bought my MacBook in 2020 so I can't use the stem splitting or chroma glow plugin.

    • @Obriezy
      @Obriezy 29 дней назад

      You can try serato sample! It’s got an Inbuilt stem separator! But the upgrade to silicon chips is worth it hey. M1 Max and Pro’s are going slightly affordable price ranges out there and still get the job done nicely. You don’t need to go for the m2 it or 3 as yet.

    • @mrwarr
      @mrwarr 29 дней назад

      Same with my iMac

    • @JacetheSmallCityGiant
      @JacetheSmallCityGiant 29 дней назад

      It will work on the MacBook from 2020 but not the IPad

  • @musicproductionvideos5019
    @musicproductionvideos5019 18 дней назад

    Can Logic "punch in" audio (while playing along) and have it loop record? Every time I try... it stops recording on the next loop. Thanks

  • @ZonaStudio
    @ZonaStudio 28 дней назад

    On your last comment I think your wrong there is a option that’s been in logic for a while , you can drag a audio in to logic and will set the tempo for the project and not only that but if it has tempo changes it will do map that too

  • @thegr8hect
    @thegr8hect 23 дня назад

    reading through all your comments here , do anyone here know how to solve the crashing problem? please help thank you

  • @djerikfox
    @djerikfox 29 дней назад

    ..its great, but i wish it had a chord track to extract chords like cubase and st1...regards

  • @waterpapi
    @waterpapi 10 дней назад

    stems splitter is a game changer

  • @djerikfox
    @djerikfox 19 дней назад

    ..you can make logic act like ableton with loops...just go to smart tempo project settings...👍

  • @producerdata
    @producerdata 29 дней назад +1

    Logic does find the tempo left click on the tempo and set it to auto detect that's it😉

  • @ScottThePisces
    @ScottThePisces 29 дней назад +1

    Bro can you make a video showcasing how you put these together? like the screen capture, audio routing, etc

  • @UrbanLikwid
    @UrbanLikwid 26 дней назад

    Does Logic have the drop down automation lanes like Ableton? That was like the one thing Logic was missing/sucked in comparision to Ableton.

  • @mrpinguin9189
    @mrpinguin9189 29 дней назад +5

    The fact you cant search for a plugin is wild to me

    • @prodbyocean
      @prodbyocean  29 дней назад +1

      That is a great point, never thought about that

  • @thestreetsear1688
    @thestreetsear1688 29 дней назад

    In order to make the audio auto snap to tempo. U have to change it to auto under tempo nd bpm counter. Then it will snap automatically.

  • @lucamoretti4466
    @lucamoretti4466 29 дней назад +1

    Anyone else's logic crashing when you go to untagged loops now?

  • @samuraitim
    @samuraitim 29 дней назад

    nice though i feel Image Line game them pressure🔥😆😆

  • @SlickA10Homepage
    @SlickA10Homepage 28 дней назад

    Yeah yeah yeah
    I’m going back to my frooty loops now

  • @Ayecartermusic
    @Ayecartermusic 29 дней назад +2

    As a logic user I don’t understand why everyone with FL says the piano roll sucks. And that’s what they usually lead with. Logic NEEDS GHOSTS NOTES. Super useful but for me that’s the only area where it’s slacking. What I do is select my track then select another region and now whatever other region I select displays in the piano roll.

    • @chuckery5177
      @chuckery5177 29 дней назад +2

      Another thing logic needs is a pan knob in the piano roll so we can pan individual notes. Makes panning kicks go crazy without having to automate.
      Hoping we get it soon

    • @kingofdjembe
      @kingofdjembe 20 дней назад

      There also MIDI panning, slides, and note chopping.

    • @Ayecartermusic
      @Ayecartermusic 20 дней назад

      @@kingofdjembe it just depends on what your style of beats are. I have no reason to pan midi, drums or anything… then slides it’s def faster but in logic you have to go to sampler and just raise your glide time. For note slicing I have my right click as the scissors tool. So I can highlight multiple notes and just slice away. I think it’s the lack of knowledge out there for logic that got a lot of people thinking it’s not good enough

  • @Onyx363
    @Onyx363 22 дня назад

    You can speed up yoiur workflow even more by pressing F to open and close the browser

  • @dannyboycinco
    @dannyboycinco 26 дней назад +1

    wow....Ableton needs to catch up and get us the STEM seperation tool...

  • @rxbtrxppy2975
    @rxbtrxppy2975 29 дней назад

    Great video as always. My personal opinion is that I hate that Apple forces everyone that doesn't have the latest MacBooks/iMac's (M1 chips and beyond) to use buy new products in order to use these new features in the update. I have an MBP '19 i9 and wasn't able to use the new Stem Splitter and ChromaGlow features due to not having the new M1 chips. Aside from that, there's nothing really "new" to the UI and Apple has failed to update and add anything new for the DAW itself. Still love Logic but I wish they'd listen to the community a bit more.

  • @Jojo37122
    @Jojo37122 14 дней назад

    How to do groups? EG drum group, bass group etc?

  • @bobert-eg2nm
    @bobert-eg2nm 28 дней назад

    ill happily sound design in logic but how have they still not added scale highlighting. ill make music in ableton and fl but never logic.

  • @DJNuimani
    @DJNuimani 29 дней назад +1

    I'm glad someone came out and said it. The DAW is better than both FL and Ableton. Now with that being said I would obviously use them all it's all apples and oranges now!

  • @paz_wav
    @paz_wav 29 дней назад

    How to change Rosetta or standard?? I’ve been trying to figure it out

    • @prodbyocean
      @prodbyocean  29 дней назад +1

      Go to your applications folder > right click on Logic > click get info and then untick open with Rosetta

  • @rollindubz2730
    @rollindubz2730 28 дней назад

    Did they bring back midi preview

  • @adamphillips158
    @adamphillips158 25 дней назад

    As a musician (as well as bedroom beat maker) I don’t like the principle of AI but that stem splinter is a game changer

  • @dg8522
    @dg8522 29 дней назад

    Ayyyy cheers for using master of none by beach house, fucking banger!!

  • @IMJUSTWANTTOTALK
    @IMJUSTWANTTOTALK 28 дней назад +2

    Cubase gang

  • @adamcondon9652
    @adamcondon9652 29 дней назад

    The stem splitter option is greyed out for me and not sure what Ocean meant by changing the Logic settings. Anyone help?

    • @prodbyocean
      @prodbyocean  29 дней назад +1

      You have to change your Logic setting. Go to your applications folder > right click on Logic > click get info and then untick open with Rosetta

  • @Set42
    @Set42 27 дней назад

    I wished they would add ghost notes

  • @TalkOfTheTownMusik
    @TalkOfTheTownMusik 28 дней назад

    I hope they fixed the snap to grid issue (lol)

  • @user-py5fk9ot8o
    @user-py5fk9ot8o 28 дней назад

    If apple put more out updates on logic, there are some minor things pluigns search,

  • @drj5418
    @drj5418 29 дней назад +6

    What are you talking about ! sample browser is still a disaster! Apple is introducing new AI products and they can't make a good sample browser, for example in Ableton or FL studio... people have been waiting for it for years...

    • @kingofdjembe
      @kingofdjembe 20 дней назад

      They make stuff that can be used on the iPad, because Logic for iPad is subscription based, while logic for Mac is a one-time purchase. Was the same for the last update (Sample Alchemy, Beat Breaker, all made thinking of iPad users; they're amazing though).

  • @MusikalHuman
    @MusikalHuman 29 дней назад

    What is a stem splita?

  • @WhereFunBegins341
    @WhereFunBegins341 29 дней назад +1

    Do more drill and trap

  • @dondanana9573
    @dondanana9573 29 дней назад

    EARLY GNAG

  • @user-sf6fm9xm3q
    @user-sf6fm9xm3q 27 дней назад

    I like your СТИЛЬ =)

  • @motiefofficial3583
    @motiefofficial3583 26 дней назад

    Very cool features, although very ai esque. I think it depends on what music you’re creating. For hiphop I can see these updates are very nice to have.
    Personally I’m sticking to live. The sheer amount of creative instruments are unmatched for me. Sure you can get similar plugins to recreate in other daws, but the same goes for ai enhanced plugins.

  • @pyatinalexey5680
    @pyatinalexey5680 25 дней назад

    Стиль))😜

  • @markodern789
    @markodern789 26 дней назад

    стиль 🗿

  • @Jameswattsmusicc
    @Jameswattsmusicc 29 дней назад

    Who else recognised the sample from Trilogy?

  • @freedomwindow3697
    @freedomwindow3697 24 дня назад

    СТИЛЬ ❤

  • @joeford454
    @joeford454 29 дней назад +1

    Great video ocean,but like someone mentioned in the comments,i also heard you need the m 1 chip in your i mac or laptop,so once again apple are going F a lot of people up with this.its a shame,typicall apple out dating your machine when they feel like it.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 29 дней назад

      This really isn’t that. They do definitively push people to upgrade. But in this situation the intel chips literally do not have the ai cores. Apple silicon has the Neural Engine cores built in. Intel just doesn’t have the actual hardware to do that. So this isn’t a situation where Apple is trying to do anything, the intel chips are just older tech.

    • @joeford454
      @joeford454 29 дней назад

      @@ghost-user559 I see,thanks for your knowledge on this matter.i will make sure I look into this,thanks

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 29 дней назад

      @@joeford454 Yeah Apple does have a history of marketing to people a lot, but usually they are pretty good with how long they support things. iPads can get updated for 6 years, and you can use it for years after, same with iPhones. But they are skilled at making the new technology look good. M1 is really good, and you can get them for a good deal now used, but Intel is still very useful, and if that’s all a person has, its really good Apple is even still giving updates to older devices.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 29 дней назад +1

      @@joeford454 I think a lot of it is actually Apple competition making these ideas more popular. Because ironically Apple products are supported longer than any other phone or tablet with updates. But they do market a lot, so it also does make people feel pressured to get the latest technology, so that part is true. So its not that Apple is actually any worse than any other company, and in fact they give updates longer than anyone else does, its just they market newer technology so often it can overwhelm people at times.

  • @user-nd3eb6os8s
    @user-nd3eb6os8s 29 дней назад +1

    Fruity loops 4 life !!!!

  • @eyeque7
    @eyeque7 29 дней назад

    On another note, the chord track has been in studio one for years and it’s waaaayyyy better.

  • @cedricblomhof1269
    @cedricblomhof1269 28 дней назад

    The only thing that I dislike about fl is that I have open many Windows to fix one thing

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 27 дней назад

    There is no “better” DAW. Only better for you personally. How you like to work and what you are making isn’t the same as the next person. How you work and your personal tendencies will lead you to a particular DAW or DAWs.

  • @Angelocomposer
    @Angelocomposer 28 дней назад

    Better never update to a .0 version, I just had to downgrade again to 10.8.5 because Rosetta plugins won’t work anymore and the new version 11 is very very unstable 😅

  • @JasonCtutorials
    @JasonCtutorials 26 дней назад

    i don't think the DAW matters. You can make music with just a few sounds.

  • @nightsidebeats4719
    @nightsidebeats4719 23 дня назад

    I started with logic but I made the switch you fl about 2 years ago. FL is better. It’s just simple. So simple that all you have to do is hover over things you don’t understand and it’ll tell you about it at the top automatically. Vs logic, you’re just stuck or have to go to RUclips. Fl studio makes the work flow smooth as water.

  • @kinangabeats
    @kinangabeats 29 дней назад

    Good features

  • @daddymidna
    @daddymidna 27 дней назад

    welp time to get a new mac as i type this on my 2000 dollar PC

  • @giovannymendez9587
    @giovannymendez9587 29 дней назад +1

    Fl studio would always be the best for production there a reason it the most use

  • @MUMUVERSE_COM
    @MUMUVERSE_COM 2 дня назад

    Great overview of the most important changes and great remix!

  • @babysunn2
    @babysunn2 28 дней назад

    Seeing How None of Those DAWS Run Off The Available Cores That Creates Efficiency When Running A Multitrack Recording Method, So I Say CUBASE AND REASON Still Owns ALL.

  • @headdrumzmusic
    @headdrumzmusic 29 дней назад +2

    Logic Gang! We finally get stem separation and it’s the best out now😄

    • @producerdata
      @producerdata 29 дней назад

      MPC Stems are the best so far I tried them all

    • @headdrumzmusic
      @headdrumzmusic 29 дней назад +1

      @@producerdataim a MPC guy as well, it was the best until now. I’ll be doing a comparison video real soon

    • @producerdata
      @producerdata 29 дней назад +1

      @@headdrumzmusic lol ok you will see

    • @producerdata
      @producerdata 29 дней назад +1

      @@headdrumzmusic logic does it like serato sample and they sound the same

    • @headdrumzmusic
      @headdrumzmusic 29 дней назад +1

      @@producerdata I got RIPX, haven’t tried sertato myself. I’ll be fair and test a few different songs

  • @campar1043
    @campar1043 28 дней назад

    not until they introduce scale lock

  • @Noah-ns2tx
    @Noah-ns2tx 29 дней назад +1

    Wow this is so cool. Now all the work I put to learning music production in the past 4 years was for nothing and people with no experience can make industry grade songs. I love this.

    • @boramautar5988
      @boramautar5988 29 дней назад +1

      Seen your reaction and had to react on it. Learning music production and theory is always your base. AI is such a power full tool, BUT the human being is even more power full. Remember: AI is created by the human, it didn't create itself.

    • @Noah-ns2tx
      @Noah-ns2tx 29 дней назад

      @@boramautar5988 the music created by AI isn’t created by the human. I won’t get any recognition for the music AI made. It doesn’t matter what made AI, its effect is the same.

    • @shan5445
      @shan5445 29 дней назад +1

      Why be salty you gained a new talent.

    • @shan5445
      @shan5445 29 дней назад +1

      ​@@Noah-ns2txlol don't cry.

    • @ejv.96
      @ejv.96 28 дней назад +2

      If this is your mentality, you're in the wrong hobby. Make music for fun, not for clicks

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie 29 дней назад

    The midi routing is a big deal (instrument in /out)

  • @jjseluk
    @jjseluk 28 дней назад

    Anyone can nitpick little features and bits and pieces that other DAWS do better. But as a total package with all the plugins, VSTs etc that come stock AND the free updates which are pretty much whole new programs….logic is unmatched.

  • @JayfkProductions876
    @JayfkProductions876 29 дней назад +32

    Say Goodbye to Creativity 😂 😂

    • @DuaneCarltonMerrittmusic
      @DuaneCarltonMerrittmusic 29 дней назад +8

      shit's getting out of hand honestly, jesus..

    • @austincelaya1139
      @austincelaya1139 29 дней назад +7

      Push a button and there’s your art

    • @simbaking6338
      @simbaking6338 29 дней назад +10

      Its optional bro...if u dont wanna go that route u dont have to.

    • @Mek_4real
      @Mek_4real 29 дней назад +5

      People said the same when 9th Wonder made beats on computers

    • @christiandavidjr4241
      @christiandavidjr4241 29 дней назад +2

      creativity, which none of us can define, is overrated. familiarity is so important, that being creative is more of a dream than a real goal or actual possibility. even if you are creative, creativity without relevance is a moot point and relevance is subjective! so is creativity! you can't get rid of it, you can't make it show up, it's always here and never around!