Fascinating discussion. I applaud the incredible archival work that you have done for all of your published work. Gratitude and respect for enlightening us!
Wonderful conversation. For history nerds like me, this is so satisfying to listen to this. I can't understand why several indians are getting triggered and suggesting that these guys are portraying Tipu as a hero. He was a significant character in the history of india. Period.
It's not discussing him which is the problem ,it's diminishing his atrocities that is the problem. Dalrymple is the perfect example of a passive aggressive British historian with an aim to build a sanitized narrative of India as pleases him . Its like selling a 'not really a bad guy ..though he did some wrong ' argument about Hitler to the Jewish people. And then to go on to give an example like... he funded the Autzwitch camp for Jewish people,since almost everyone there was one. Sounds preposterous,right? But hey ,this is India and Indians are not really clued in to the gaslighting they have been subjected to since Macaulay's education hit the floor. Not even the genocide of our own people offends us.🤷♀️
Not sure what you are getting at, you may not like empires but they are not the past are they? Britain was a medium sized European country, it invented an entirely new economic system called industrialisation, was probably the most inventive society in history, and built the biggest empire ever seen.
Mr.Dalrymple, Definitely whatever the British did with Indians or Muslims of India is called cruelty worst then what Roman’s did to the British. There is always a peak or Summit and downward trend, life is also a wave form with all the ups and downs, we should not be cruel and selfish when you are in the top because when you hit the rock bottom you have cushion.
Quite pathetic of Mr Dalrymple to make a nasty snide at the Scindias, somehow he doesn't use the same trope of politics and insinuation, which he uses to absolve quite many of the Mughals of their involvement in religious persecution...
Hyder ali was a mercenary soldier,, who got ranked and later he stabbed his Hindu masters on his back (and threw the Mysore king in prison).. And their Hindu hatred did the rest of his cruel deeds on the natives. Tipu fought for Islamic rule on Mysore, he was not freedom fighter. Infact in 1790s he even wrote letters to Ottoman Sultan to help him fight the Brits and establish Islamic land in South India.. He changed names of all the Myore state places to Islamic, Arabic names. He destroys many many Hindus temples even in Kannada, Telugu and Kerala region. He imposed Arabic, Urdu as the state language.
@@SasPatBanperhaps you can disprove these facts by providing your counter evidence. I hear Vikram Sampath’s new book is heavily referenced. You can start there?
@@srv232 The trivial thing is the topic. For a man who puffs himself up with his knowledge of all things India he does not even respect the basics of the country's culture. It speaks loudly of his arrogance and poorly of his knowledge. And ,"Grow Up" is pathetic and trivial so perhaps you should practise what you preach.
@@Anantham09 why U putting it in inverted commas? I wasn't born one but I applied to be that's how much love I got. Answer the question U wet individual. Ur all cap. I smoke U and Ur superiors for jokes
infact the opposite of anything Sahib. William is friends with the ex PM Imran Khan who has single handedly put a shalwar kameez with a Koti n peshawari chappal on the map. And surely trying to keep himself at bay with wearing typical british clothing style (very popular in the sahib culture of sub continent) and also hinting towards a proud pathan.
Lovely conversation as alway by Mr Dalrymple
Fascinating discussion. I applaud the incredible archival work that you have done for all of your published work. Gratitude and respect for enlightening us!
Wonderful conversation. For history nerds like me, this is so satisfying to listen to this.
I can't understand why several indians are getting triggered and suggesting that these guys are portraying Tipu as a hero. He was a significant character in the history of india. Period.
RSS RSS RSS RSS... Rewrite history
It's not discussing him which is the problem ,it's diminishing his atrocities that is the problem. Dalrymple is the perfect example of a passive aggressive British historian with an aim to build a sanitized narrative of India as pleases him . Its like selling a 'not really a bad guy ..though he did some wrong ' argument about Hitler to the Jewish people. And then to go on to give an example like... he funded the Autzwitch camp for Jewish people,since almost everyone there was one. Sounds preposterous,right? But hey ,this is India and Indians are not really clued in to the gaslighting they have been subjected to since Macaulay's education hit the floor. Not even the genocide of our own people offends us.🤷♀️
British's loss - Blame it on the rain
Tipu's loss - Pure British courage.
Yeah right!!😊
Not sure what you are getting at, you may not like empires but they are not the past are they? Britain was a medium sized European country, it invented an entirely new economic system called industrialisation, was probably the most inventive society in history, and built the biggest empire ever seen.
Wonderful discussion ❤
Very interesting!
Are there any real time photographs of Tipu Sultan or the last Moghuls
Nabob Dalrymple is playing the role now. He should have stuck to the late medieval period and continued his good work.
Interesting
Tipu sultan came to northern kerala and destroyed all the hindu kingdom and forcibly converted them to muslim.
You didn't mention that sultan hyder ali was a a shia and his son tipu sultan converted to sunnism.
Interesting. Reference please?
@@khantk2732 rumman Akbar.
History researcher at the asiatic society of bangladesh
Both Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan were tyrants and created many atrocities against Hindus !
Mr.Dalrymple,
Definitely whatever the British did with Indians or Muslims of India is called cruelty worst then what Roman’s did to the British.
There is always a peak or Summit and downward trend, life is also a wave form with all the ups and downs, we should not be cruel and selfish when you are in the top because when you hit the rock bottom you have cushion.
1:07:35 A wild Tom Holland appears
Tipu and Haider were winning against Brits and Marathas stabbed him in the back
Quite pathetic of Mr Dalrymple to make a nasty snide at the Scindias, somehow he doesn't use the same trope of politics and insinuation, which he uses to absolve quite many of the Mughals of their involvement in religious persecution...
Hyder ali was a mercenary soldier,, who got ranked and later he stabbed his Hindu masters on his back (and threw the Mysore king in prison).. And their Hindu hatred did the rest of his cruel deeds on the natives.
Tipu fought for Islamic rule on Mysore, he was not freedom fighter. Infact in 1790s he even wrote letters to Ottoman Sultan to help him fight the Brits and establish Islamic land in South India.. He changed names of all the Myore state places to Islamic, Arabic names. He destroys many many Hindus temples even in Kannada, Telugu and Kerala region. He imposed Arabic, Urdu as the state language.
What is your source or evidence for your statements?
@@SasPatBanperhaps you can disprove these facts by providing your counter evidence. I hear Vikram Sampath’s new book is heavily referenced. You can start there?
Manufacturing many things, trading making other nations jealous in their behaviours.
10:38 goosebumps 🔥
I just finished Dalrymple's Anarchy and on to the White Mughals. Dalrymple is a great historian/author!
Bro looks like Tony Soprano
William I trust you are aware of how disrespectful your dangling foot with the sole of your shoes facing your audience may have been.
Even by British standards it is not a good look.
C’mon.. there are better things to focus on than trivial things. For example, the topic itself. Grow up.
@@srv232 The trivial thing is the topic. For a man who puffs himself up with his knowledge of all things India he does not even respect the basics of the country's culture. It speaks loudly of his arrogance and poorly of his knowledge. And ,"Grow Up" is pathetic and trivial so perhaps you should practise what you preach.
Tipu Sultan our national hero? What nonsense is he talking about?
I agree, all of the people in this story were out for riches and were fantastically greedy.
13:52 HYDER ALI 🇮🇳🔥
Tipu sultan does in the past what the Chinese doing today tomorrow others.
Debate needs “Vikram Sampath “ , a researcher on Tipu and Mysore..They are down playing the heinous atrocities committed by Tipu with in short time..
Chad
Saar
Atrocities committed against whom? When? Where? Reference? Are U a RAW agent?
@@RayK-er4re R u a “Pakistani”
@@Anantham09 why U putting it in inverted commas? I wasn't born one but I applied to be that's how much love I got. Answer the question U wet individual. Ur all cap. I smoke U and Ur superiors for jokes
I can tell Dalrymple likes Indian food :)
He has Muslim blood which he acknowledged
Vah vah found perfect candidate to be prime Minister of Pakistan 😂
He is dressed in a Pakistani shalwar kameez and is wearing a casket and is wearing peshwari Chappel. A sad attempt at being a sahib
We'll get a decent profile name before 👉 fingers at others 🎉
infact the opposite of anything Sahib. William is friends with the ex PM Imran Khan who has single handedly put a shalwar kameez with a Koti n peshawari chappal on the map. And surely trying to keep himself at bay with wearing typical british clothing style (very popular in the sahib culture of sub continent) and also hinting towards a proud pathan.
What about we Indians wearing western clothes?does that make us sahib?,HE lives in India and perhaps used to loose.attire.
@@rakhimukerji7937Hear hear!
I am British and don’t think this clothing is appropriate, I think it’s disrespectful in a way.