Just saw that Kevin Stefanski and some of his coaches will be out for the playoffs (COVID). While this is definitely unfortunate, we still need to give him credit for all he did this season. How he adapted his scheme to the Browns' personnel is really helping this team and how he is putting Baker in the right position to succeed allows him to throw with anticipation/timing on his plays.
@@SamuelGoldNFL thank u so much! And I totally get how long that would take since how much he has improved since his rookie year,his jump In the second year and the breakout in his third year that needs LOTS of film
I feel like people aren’t as hype about the Browns making the freaking playoffs like come on lol. That’s something worthy of praise and I’m a Ravens fan
Appreciated, brother! AFCN is, by and far, the toughest Division in Football. And this is nothing new, it's been that way many times since Re-alignment.
It's good for the league to have the Browns back doing well. Back in the playoffs. I'm a Washington fan for many, many yrs, but it's good to see the Dog Pound in the dance again.
Freddie put Bake in these passing situations that took a while to get ready and didnt give him the protection to wait for it. Stefanski doesnt take advantage of Baker's phenominal deep ball, doesnt have a deep threat in a receiver, doesnt have a tall fast receiver that can run down and grab a 50/50 ball, Stefanski rode on Baker's coat strings and he knows it.
It’s almost like having 4 coaches and 3 systems in 3 years is a bad thing? Idk about you Sam but I watch the national media and they tell me baker is trash lmao. Thank you for the nuance
@@erikmireles5879 problem is Garrett and Vernon seems to never have a game where both played well. Example is this season. Myles dominated the first half of the season but hasn't been the same since he got Covid. Vernon meanwhile has started playing well by the second half of the season, add to that a bit injury riddled. Ward is a solid corner and honestly an underrated one, problem is most of the time hes the only one playing consistently well in their secondary, and same as Vernon, Ward tends to get injured.
whats crazy, is i specifically remember how most ppl wanted Josh McDaniels(patriots) as the new head coach. every1 thought josh was "the guy". And for once-we have to praise 1 of the worst owners in history(haslem) 4 actually making the right call with Berry/Stefanski. FINALLY....WOOF WOOF!
The Browns fans have won already this year. #1 The Playoffs(Huge) #2 Stefan ski( trusting him) #3 finally giving us fans a reason to cheer( which we do regardless).
The great thing is the Browns may not even need much help in the secondary. Delpit was drafted in the 2nd to take over the FS opening but tore his Achilles before the season. Greedy Williams looked like a suitable DB2 as a rookie, but has nerve damage in his shoulder and has not played all season. Two gigantic IF's here, but if Delpit is the talented FS he appears to be, and if Greedy can recover from his shoulder injury (always iffy when nerves are involved) the browns don't need much. Ronnie Harrison has looked like a great pick up for SS, TakiTaki has been okay in his second year at LB, and Jacob Elliot has shown flashes in his limited rookie season. D line depth, LB help and a body or two for the secondary should fix the Defense.
Yeah definitely possible! Hopefully that's the case. It would be great to see the Browns a new power house with a better secondary after those guys return from injury.
I’m really looking forward to what the Brown do next season having OBJ back healthy(assuming they don’t trade him) and hoping we get back to the normal offseason. I can’t wait to watch what this offense does in year 2 in the system.
I feel like Baker will benefit from finally going into next season with the same HC and playcaller. We all know the last 3 years have been a mess in that organisation.
Good video as always, Sam! I'm really wondering how OBJ would have looked this year with post-bye Baker. All indications are things continue to trend upwards with their excellent roster, so I'm glad to see the Browns doing so well. If McD doesn't get COTY, I have no issue whatsoever with Stefanski getting it - but no one else 😅
Sam, from my perspective, you've provided the best, most profound, evidenced-based, advantage-focused, realistic, winning culture-building analysis of the 2020 Cleveland Brown's!!!! Congratulations!!!! Keep it going and all the best!!!!
I’m glad they did well this season it was so annoying every week they had a lose or Baker player bad Stephen A. kept saying the Browns need to get rid of him, like they would get rid of him after what he has done for them.
What do you all think about OBJ in this offense? I honestly don't think he was the problem. I think Baker's struggles early on were that he couldn't stay in structure with this offense because he stared down OBJ, and that led to issues like sacks or broken plays since he didn't find his checkdown when OBJ was covered.
I really feel that baker early on didn't trust his offensive line early on and his play was effected. Remember his line was awful in pass protection last year (although some was baker fault). If you look at beginning of season to the last few games, you can see baker actually feels comfortable in the pocket. I mean watch baker in the 2nd steelers game as baker early on would have never climbed through the pocket to make throws, he would have escaped to the right. also baker had to change his footwork as that was their main focus this year. So I feel early on baker was more worried about footwork, learning the offense, and reading the defense and his play suffered. The OBJ thing is overrated
I think OBJ is the problem for Baker specifically. I think he wanted to get OBJ the ball as much as possible and that's why you saw him stare Odell down and not go through his progressions early in the season. The fact of the matter is that Baker plays better without Odell, just look at his rookie year, and I don't think keeping him is worth the cap space or the risk.
@@mickhopkins7890 my opinion is that baker has been able to develop pretty well without obj and if baker doesn’t regress next year then he and Odell will take the league by storm next year
The 'lazy' excuse is OBJ was the problem. The 'lazy' fix is to get rid of OBJ. Now let me start by saying there are VALID Reasons to move on from OBJ. Like how much money is tied up into WR, as Baker and Chubb and Garrett come up on Contract Two and money will be needed. That's valid. Or getting something in return for OBJ before you just allow him to walk (because you can't afford to Re-Sign him at that point). Valid. I've been told by many that OBJ 'chirps' at Baker for the ball. That's pure speculation. But let's say we grant this premise. If your QB changes how he plays because of a WR chirping for the ball, you don't have a WR Problem. You have a QB Problem. The QB's Job is to make the best play for his Team, every play. That's the job. He should always think "What is the best thing I can do here?" and then do it. What he should never think is "How do I get this guy the ball?"... because that is not always the best thing for the Team. Tom Brady might let a WR chirp, or he might shut that WR down in the huddle... but what Tom Brady doesn't do is avoid the best play for his team to appease a WR. I can not tell you that this is the issue. I can tell you that if this IS the issue, Baker and his QB Coach really have to work on Baker 'always being Baker'. I'd hate to be a GM and have to say "Well, we COULD get this WR... but I don't know if my QB will fall apart if I do". Because, as the QB is my Franchise QB, my Franchise Player... I need to have the faith that no matter what is going on around him, he's going to do the best thing for the Team. OBJ was not, is not, and will not ever be the 'problem' for the Browns Offense. There MAY be a problem with Baker being able to properly utilize OBJ WHILE maintaining his consistency of doing what is best on a given play. OBJ has quality production in Cleveland, and pairing him with Landry gives Cleveland one of the Top 8 WR Duos in the NFL. When you add that to the #1 RB Duo, and Top 3 OL... that's, well, insanity. You want your QB to be able to use all the weapons at his disposal. You want to be able to make those Groups as good as you can get them, and not have to worry about skipping on a talented player because your QB suddenly forgets who he is. So instead of ignoring the issue, I propose Cleveland FIX the issue. Don't ship off OBJ (for THIS reason... again, there are valid reasons to ship him but this is not one of them)... instead work with Baker to fix this. HOWEVER, it may have just simply been Baker not being familiar with the Offense, not being comfortable, and using OBJ as a 'Safety Blanket' to much while Baker adjusted to the New Play Book. In other words, the answer could be "There is no issue... Baker just needed more Snaps with the Offense.". That is the BEST CASE SCENARIO, as it means we don't have to 'fix' this issue with Baker... because there is no issue. What needed to be fixed was 'Baker needs Time with the Offense', and now he has that. Fixed. Done. Solved. However, we won't know if that's truly the case, until and unless OBJ is out there and Baker is doing his job (making the best play for his team) and 'Being Baker'.
As a Browns fan, one of the bigger(est) issues Baker and the coaching staff have been working on most since the bye was to get his eyes in the right spots. But most importantly, to understand that teams (the Ravens in particular) have been inviting throws of his into certain pre-snap looks, knowing his tendency to grip n rip. Specifically how Baker could get locked into weakside boundary throws. Sans the last Ravens game, he's done a better job getting away from that bad habit. Although he was peeping Landry's way a bit too much at first when OBJ went down, that's another quip the coaching staff is working to iron-out. Credit to you, Sam - for recognizing the work and vision Stef has brought to this offense and team as a whole. I was high on him day 1 when he said he wanted to bootleg Baker more. Something I screamed for Freddy Kitchens to get back to. Defense... Well, they still need some young talent.
Nicely done video, hopefully Stefanski can sure up his 4th down play calling. Almost lost his team a few games this season instead of just taking the 3.
You've definitely gotten better at making videos since I last saw any of them a few years back. The way you used to talk drove me up a wall. Keep up the good work!
I think If Baker keeps working during the off-season, and if the browns draft well, they could possibly make a run next year. Next year is an important year contract wise for Baker so we’ll see what will be possible when he’ll have the best offense with OBJ back.
I'm thinking they sign Baker long term this offseason. It's obvious he's the future, and if he's going to get paid it's better to do so now and stretch out that big contract over a couple of his rookie years. Pretty much what KC did with Mahomes.
And RG Teller came back from injury as well. Hubbard was a good replacement but his season ended about a month ago. Teller got hurt again against the Giants and without Hubbard to replace him...well we saw what happened in the Jets game with no Teller and no LT Wills
He’s using touch on the ball and going through is full progression. He also started taking those check downs. He stopped starring his WR down and forcing balls that weren’t open. He also should never throw more than 30-35 passes a game. If you have to rely on his arm he’ll start to regress and make bad decisions, but other than that I’m happy he’s getting some respect again besides the guys who just truly want him to fail to justify their own narratives.
I mean all QB’s throwing 35 passes a game are probably going to run into trouble. If you’re throwing that much you’re probably losing. Look at Big Ben in the playoff game
@@christopherwaits7852 that’s not true. Guys like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, and even the rookie Justin Herbert would throw that on average. Big Ben could’ve done the same 2 years ago. He’s just regressing due to age and a predictable offense with no variations. It’s either going to be a slants, bubble screens, or in routes. I’m not even gonna talk about the run game cause it doesn’t exist
agree with the secondary. they need depth and a compliment for delpit if he is good, add another linebacker and they will be competitive for the teams we play next year. which we will need considering they will be afc east and nfc west my guess.
If obj is back they got to get him in the short quick game instead of him always running deep routes and baker holding onto the ball and locking in on him and not throwing the open man
And the middle of the D line (Andrew Billing). The Browns weak spots all have in house answers, now they need to add good depth and complimentary talent.
Watt often does a lot of dirty shit. Not surprised when the film is broken down, Watt is caught. Unfortunately, refs are so sub par at their jobs it's often overlooked.
When baker is under pressure and sees a clear path to scrabble he should definitely take it he’s not slow one bit he’s got wheels id like him to use them for often
this is exactly what stefanski needed to do w baker. besides baker getting no serious coaching his 1st 2 years, in fact learning tons of bad habits, a lot of ppl forget he had flaws than needed fixing coming into the nfl. the arm talent, accuracy, work ethic & leadership were there, but he needed a lot of fine tuning he never got in years 1 & 2. stefanski had to brainwash baker & he did.
@@RylzMunkister specifically, baker had terrible footwork coming out of college, he needed to learn how to take snaps under center, something he never did in college, & his ability to make post-snap reads not good. i'd say brainwashing is exactly what stefanski needed to do with baker. he learned so many bad habits his 1st 2 years, stefanski had to take baker essentially back to square one as of it was his rookie year.
Awesome vid man. I watch a lot of football but am a lazy viewer. I don't get what certain plays mean or how to differentiate between different systems. This vid is making me want to take a more analytical approach to watching football, which will help me enjoy football on a whole new level! Keep up the work. HERE WE GO BROWNIES HERE WE GO
What’re your thoughts on their upcoming playoff game against the Steelers? Do you think he’ll perform well and what do you think the final score will be? Great video btw!!
its not that baker is better without OBJ baker just got more comfortable in the offense unfortunately OBj was hurt during that time. can't wait to next season.
If you look at the numbers before and after odell’s injury, the numbers are even more drastic. And thats even including 3 games with awful weather and a game where every rostered wide receiver was out from close contact with covid. And i think there is significant correlation there. He always tried to force it to Odell when he wasn’t open. I’d trade him in the off-season tbh, baker simply plays much better without him
Browns fans to your non biased football fans have been begging for good coaching to the team for a long time. They could have been playoff contenders ages ago, better late than never.
Baker played better without OBJ, but that's mainly b/c he stayed in structure with the offense. You can't blame OBJ for that. That's on Baker for over-relying on a star.
besides the new coach and staff doing an outstanding job...Baker is simple better without OBJ...He idolizes the guy and was forcing a lot to him.. his interception rate dropped off after OBJ was hurt. He now spreads it around instead of trying so hard to feed it to OBJ.
Still to be determined.......(every1 gets what ur saying)...but baker found himself, now that he knows he doesnt NEED Odell, that chemistry will finally form that bond between the two. He aint gonna force bad throws 2 odell anymore. I 100% believe that
Samuel, I love your analysis. But I have to be honest, I was expecting more in depth analysis and film work on the Xs and Os. The reason why I love your channel is because you often offer that type of analysis that isn’t easy to come by anywhere else. But this video was filled with a lot of data generalizations that I do see a lot of other places or even could look up myself pretty easily. Stefanski runs plays that help Baker easily identify pre snap reads? Ok, usually you’d throw in a few technical examples shown in film work demonstrating some of these reads and concepts in action instead of just talking about the trend. I’m not disliking the video cause it’s not bad. It’s just not the signature Samuel Gold treatment I was expecting for my Browns.
I'll respectfully disagree, as this was supposed to be a more high-level analysis given the title of the video AND he absolutely got into the Xs and Os with Baker's increased comfort with the scheme, reads and throws.
Hey man - Thanks for the comment. The big reason for why honestly comes down to comfort and coaching which I tried to explain via first and second half of season differences. It's not a particular play or concept. It's not a particular run - which are mainly wide zone, inside zone, and power/counter. A big reason for their success this season has been making the offense and reads simpler for the QB and giving them predefined reads using the quick game, bootleg rollouts, etc... This is a staple of a classic Shanahan west coast offense. Stefanski has simplified what he's asked Baker to do. This does seem general but the key point is the following: Baker is at his best when he can stay in-rhythm and quickly see 1v1 matchups or quickly identify pre-snap where he should go with the ball. The scheme does that. This video was less about pure X's and O's and more talking about general trends of fixing the Browns. The decisiveness and timing of this offense (scheme) is the main reason for them playing better. It's not even Baker necessarily. Maybe I could have shown an example of Baker identifying matchups better with more ease? Honestly I felt like the bigger points of what I saw before the bye to after and his comfort in staying in structure was just way more important to talk about and illustrate.
What do you think of the narrative that's being pushed that baker has started performing well once OBJ went down? The stats seem to give some credence to this idea, with his percentages getting better and touchdown rates going up/ int rates going down. The basic idea being that without OBJ there, baker doesn't feel so obligated to force it to him, and can just make his natural reads. They went and got the superstar, he felt the need to force it to him to win games. So the narrative goes. What do you think?
There is some truth to it but it's more on Baker not staying in structure with his offense. He over-relied on OBJ's skill set rather trusting his scheme and finding other openings (mainly check downs).
Yeah, the player needs to reality check himself too. No good comes from a good coach with effort and a player without any will to do good. Look at Dick Vermeil and Lawrence Phillips in the late 90's
As much as I like film study. I want to ask this. Have you ever played QB? I have. It’s hard. And when you make a throw and it’s a safe throw. You throw it because you know you can’t make it to the window anymore.
@@jfoster8624 according to Brett Kollman’s last video, (ruclips.net/video/xvzpCs9IYzY/видео.html) Mahome’s completion percentage, yards/attempt, and touchdown to interception ratio all go up when he faces a blitz. So to be fair, just because there’s a blitz does not necessarily mean he’s under pressure, but typically that means there will some pass rush pressure on him. Yeah he’s not god. But he’s really good. I’m not even a chiefs fan
I know Bakers injured this season but obviously there's other problems on offense. Recievers are struggling to get open especially against man coverage.When they do get open the drop the ball half the time. So low and behold defenses have figured out that they can't win with the pass. At this point they might as well let Van Pelt call the plays. Who know he could provide a spark. Stefanski is undoubtedly having a sophomore slump this year. They don't seem like the same team as last year especially regarding penalties. Landry a usually reliable target, also Isn't playing like himself. Probably partly due to his nagging knee injury. On the bright the defense is playing great Football. They obviously need to go all offense next year through the draft and Free Agency. They need a guy that can stretch the field like OBJ that isn't as injury prone. Although most importantly wants to play on the Browns. OBJ's heart was never in Cleveland.
To get rid of it. Couldn't scramble worth a sh__t his motivation heart and love for the game ....... stop stop his pic in the draft was 260 he told Robert craft it was the best decision he ever made.....sound familiar? Bake told Dorsey he would change the culture and franchise of Cleveland forever you dig. This comment is reverting back to my last comment. GO DAWGS
Just saw that Kevin Stefanski and some of his coaches will be out for the playoffs (COVID). While this is definitely unfortunate, we still need to give him credit for all he did this season. How he adapted his scheme to the Browns' personnel is really helping this team and how he is putting Baker in the right position to succeed allows him to throw with anticipation/timing on his plays.
Ur vids are amazing
@@reverseflash882 Thanks mate!
@@SamuelGoldNFL I saw on that other post that u where taking video suggestions so here’s mine: josh Allen’s progression thru his first three seasons
@@reverseflash882 I want to do him. Will 100% over the off-season. Need to dedicate A LOT of time to going through all of that film.
@@SamuelGoldNFL thank u so much! And I totally get how long that would take since how much he has improved since his rookie year,his jump In the second year and the breakout in his third year that needs LOTS of film
The Shanahan system is no joke, and stefanski clearly can teach and communicate it well.
I feel like people aren’t as hype about the Browns making the freaking playoffs like come on lol. That’s something worthy of praise and I’m a Ravens fan
Appreciated, brother!
AFCN is, by and far, the toughest Division in Football. And this is nothing new, it's been that way many times since Re-alignment.
It's good for the league to have the Browns back doing well. Back in the playoffs. I'm a Washington fan for many, many yrs, but it's good to see the Dog Pound in the dance again.
@@operationskunkworks5914 It makes very little difference to the league if cleveland is good or not lol
@@Jiff321 I think them winning last Sunday made a bit of a difference...
@@randomstuff508 not really I’m sure the league would have preferred Pittsburgh won lol.....
Wyatt Teller is another OL that they got that has made a big difference.
Freddie put Bake in these passing situations that took a while to get ready and didnt give him the protection to wait for it. Stefanski doesnt take advantage of Baker's phenominal deep ball, doesnt have a deep threat in a receiver, doesnt have a tall fast receiver that can run down and grab a 50/50 ball, Stefanski rode on Baker's coat strings and he knows it.
Who’s here after we smacked the Steelers?
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“Same old Browns”
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It’s almost like having 4 coaches and 3 systems in 3 years is a bad thing? Idk about you Sam but I watch the national media and they tell me baker is trash lmao. Thank you for the nuance
Imagine being Kirk Cousins and having five new OC's in 5 seasons (6 next year) and still having a qb rating averaging over 100 ;)
if you think about it hes gad 6 coaches in 5 years going back to Oklahoma too
@Wild Bill He already is
Baker just won't ever be a tier 1 QB. Under pressure he just freaks out.
@@joeking433 Lmao stop repeating what the media says, he improved tremendously under pressure this year..
Baker will continue to get better going into the 2021 season. Its amazing what good coaching can do.
I think we have to thank Pittsburgh for that schooling they gave Baker, he never made the mistakes he did that game ever again
And then he went on to thank the Steelers by letting them go home early for the season!
I love the Stefanski hire. Browns should be a very good team in next few years if they can get defensive help in the draft.
Seriously. It was A+!
Given the offensive pieces he worked with in Minnesota, Stefanski was probably the perfect hire for Baker
I still don't know how they're not atleast average on defense they have garrett, ward, ogunjobi, vernon
@@erikmireles5879 problem is Garrett and Vernon seems to never have a game where both played well. Example is this season. Myles dominated the first half of the season but hasn't been the same since he got Covid. Vernon meanwhile has started playing well by the second half of the season, add to that a bit injury riddled. Ward is a solid corner and honestly an underrated one, problem is most of the time hes the only one playing consistently well in their secondary, and same as Vernon, Ward tends to get injured.
@@erikmireles5879 and ogunjobi is a non factor
Baker been performing better under pressure lately.
aka how Kevin Stefanski made Cleveland Browns fans happy for once
whats crazy, is i specifically remember how most ppl wanted Josh McDaniels(patriots) as the new head coach. every1 thought josh was "the guy". And for once-we have to praise 1 of the worst owners in history(haslem) 4 actually making the right call with Berry/Stefanski. FINALLY....WOOF WOOF!
@@10cavsfan lol that would've been a disaster
I love how baker mayfield SPRINTS down the field after he hands it off
The Browns fans have won already this year. #1 The Playoffs(Huge) #2 Stefan ski( trusting him) #3 finally giving us fans a reason to cheer( which we do regardless).
Add a playoff win vs the steelers, best season for the browns in like 30+ years
i think getting odell back next year with him settled into the offense could be dangerous
Oof
The great thing is the Browns may not even need much help in the secondary. Delpit was drafted in the 2nd to take over the FS opening but tore his Achilles before the season. Greedy Williams looked like a suitable DB2 as a rookie, but has nerve damage in his shoulder and has not played all season. Two gigantic IF's here, but if Delpit is the talented FS he appears to be, and if Greedy can recover from his shoulder injury (always iffy when nerves are involved) the browns don't need much. Ronnie Harrison has looked like a great pick up for SS, TakiTaki has been okay in his second year at LB, and Jacob Elliot has shown flashes in his limited rookie season. D line depth, LB help and a body or two for the secondary should fix the Defense.
Yeah definitely possible! Hopefully that's the case. It would be great to see the Browns a new power house with a better secondary after those guys return from injury.
Baker just won the browns playoff game
I’m really looking forward to what the Brown do next season having OBJ back healthy(assuming they don’t trade him) and hoping we get back to the normal offseason. I can’t wait to watch what this offense does in year 2 in the system.
Man I mess with your channel heavy, you go into details about the subject, your explanations be on point, keep up the good work.
I feel like Baker will benefit from finally going into next season with the same HC and playcaller. We all know the last 3 years have been a mess in that organisation.
Good video as always, Sam! I'm really wondering how OBJ would have looked this year with post-bye Baker. All indications are things continue to trend upwards with their excellent roster, so I'm glad to see the Browns doing so well.
If McD doesn't get COTY, I have no issue whatsoever with Stefanski getting it - but no one else 😅
Sam, from my perspective, you've provided the best, most profound, evidenced-based, advantage-focused, realistic, winning culture-building analysis of the 2020 Cleveland Brown's!!!! Congratulations!!!! Keep it going and all the best!!!!
Posted three minutes ago. Goodness.
What's up, fellow Sam.
Hahah. :)
Sam gang
Not having to force feed OBJ helped
I’m glad they did well this season it was so annoying every week they had a lose or Baker player bad Stephen A. kept saying the Browns need to get rid of him, like they would get rid of him after what he has done for them.
these are some really good videos
did you ever play football at some point? Your explanations are so knowledgeable and easy to understand
What do you all think about OBJ in this offense? I honestly don't think he was the problem. I think Baker's struggles early on were that he couldn't stay in structure with this offense because he stared down OBJ, and that led to issues like sacks or broken plays since he didn't find his checkdown when OBJ was covered.
I really feel that baker early on didn't trust his offensive line early on and his play was effected. Remember his line was awful in pass protection last year (although some was baker fault). If you look at beginning of season to the last few games, you can see baker actually feels comfortable in the pocket. I mean watch baker in the 2nd steelers game as baker early on would have never climbed through the pocket to make throws, he would have escaped to the right.
also baker had to change his footwork as that was their main focus this year. So I feel early on baker was more worried about footwork, learning the offense, and reading the defense and his play suffered.
The OBJ thing is overrated
I think OBJ is the problem for Baker specifically. I think he wanted to get OBJ the ball as much as possible and that's why you saw him stare Odell down and not go through his progressions early in the season. The fact of the matter is that Baker plays better without Odell, just look at his rookie year, and I don't think keeping him is worth the cap space or the risk.
@@mickhopkins7890 my opinion is that baker has been able to develop pretty well without obj and if baker doesn’t regress next year then he and Odell will take the league by storm next year
The 'lazy' excuse is OBJ was the problem. The 'lazy' fix is to get rid of OBJ. Now let me start by saying there are VALID Reasons to move on from OBJ. Like how much money is tied up into WR, as Baker and Chubb and Garrett come up on Contract Two and money will be needed. That's valid. Or getting something in return for OBJ before you just allow him to walk (because you can't afford to Re-Sign him at that point). Valid.
I've been told by many that OBJ 'chirps' at Baker for the ball. That's pure speculation. But let's say we grant this premise. If your QB changes how he plays because of a WR chirping for the ball, you don't have a WR Problem. You have a QB Problem. The QB's Job is to make the best play for his Team, every play. That's the job. He should always think "What is the best thing I can do here?" and then do it. What he should never think is "How do I get this guy the ball?"... because that is not always the best thing for the Team. Tom Brady might let a WR chirp, or he might shut that WR down in the huddle... but what Tom Brady doesn't do is avoid the best play for his team to appease a WR.
I can not tell you that this is the issue. I can tell you that if this IS the issue, Baker and his QB Coach really have to work on Baker 'always being Baker'. I'd hate to be a GM and have to say "Well, we COULD get this WR... but I don't know if my QB will fall apart if I do". Because, as the QB is my Franchise QB, my Franchise Player... I need to have the faith that no matter what is going on around him, he's going to do the best thing for the Team.
OBJ was not, is not, and will not ever be the 'problem' for the Browns Offense. There MAY be a problem with Baker being able to properly utilize OBJ WHILE maintaining his consistency of doing what is best on a given play. OBJ has quality production in Cleveland, and pairing him with Landry gives Cleveland one of the Top 8 WR Duos in the NFL. When you add that to the #1 RB Duo, and Top 3 OL... that's, well, insanity.
You want your QB to be able to use all the weapons at his disposal. You want to be able to make those Groups as good as you can get them, and not have to worry about skipping on a talented player because your QB suddenly forgets who he is.
So instead of ignoring the issue, I propose Cleveland FIX the issue. Don't ship off OBJ (for THIS reason... again, there are valid reasons to ship him but this is not one of them)... instead work with Baker to fix this. HOWEVER, it may have just simply been Baker not being familiar with the Offense, not being comfortable, and using OBJ as a 'Safety Blanket' to much while Baker adjusted to the New Play Book.
In other words, the answer could be "There is no issue... Baker just needed more Snaps with the Offense.". That is the BEST CASE SCENARIO, as it means we don't have to 'fix' this issue with Baker... because there is no issue. What needed to be fixed was 'Baker needs Time with the Offense', and now he has that. Fixed. Done. Solved. However, we won't know if that's truly the case, until and unless OBJ is out there and Baker is doing his job (making the best play for his team) and 'Being Baker'.
Kevin should make OBJ and Baker work all offseason. They need to find that chemistry
Lincoln Riley, Bakers college coach, says that if your system isn’t QB friendly you need a new system..
Great work! Nice breakdown.
I wait for your videos every week and I love them keep grinding
Thanks mate!!!
As a Browns fan, one of the bigger(est) issues Baker and the coaching staff have been working on most since the bye was to get his eyes in the right spots. But most importantly, to understand that teams (the Ravens in particular) have been inviting throws of his into certain pre-snap looks, knowing his tendency to grip n rip. Specifically how Baker could get locked into weakside boundary throws. Sans the last Ravens game, he's done a better job getting away from that bad habit. Although he was peeping Landry's way a bit too much at first when OBJ went down, that's another quip the coaching staff is working to iron-out.
Credit to you, Sam - for recognizing the work and vision Stef has brought to this offense and team as a whole. I was high on him day 1 when he said he wanted to bootleg Baker more. Something I screamed for Freddy Kitchens to get back to.
Defense... Well, they still need some young talent.
Nicely done video, hopefully Stefanski can sure up his 4th down play calling. Almost lost his team a few games this season instead of just taking the 3.
That was by far the best brake down of explaining football I’ve ever watched great work!
You've definitely gotten better at making videos since I last saw any of them a few years back. The way you used to talk drove me up a wall. Keep up the good work!
I think If Baker keeps working during the off-season, and if the browns draft well, they could possibly make a run next year. Next year is an important year contract wise for Baker so we’ll see what will be possible when he’ll have the best offense with OBJ back.
I'm thinking they sign Baker long term this offseason. It's obvious he's the future, and if he's going to get paid it's better to do so now and stretch out that big contract over a couple of his rookie years. Pretty much what KC did with Mahomes.
Great video bro!
A miracle has happened in Pittsburgh
Didnt Nick Chubb come back the first week after the BYE? I'd say thats alot of the success too right there.. lol
And RG Teller came back from injury as well. Hubbard was a good replacement but his season ended about a month ago. Teller got hurt again against the Giants and without Hubbard to replace him...well we saw what happened in the Jets game with no Teller and no LT Wills
Well you do need a run game to open up the pass game, unless you're mahomes
Watching this as a ravens fan because I want to see if our defense can hold up next year 🥲 my team has me sweating
Baker is a talented QB with an arm that rivals Mahomes and Alan but what he was lacking was confidence in his offense early on in my opinion..
He’s using touch on the ball and going through is full progression. He also started taking those check downs. He stopped starring his WR down and forcing balls that weren’t open. He also should never throw more than 30-35 passes a game. If you have to rely on his arm he’ll start to regress and make bad decisions, but other than that I’m happy he’s getting some respect again besides the guys who just truly want him to fail to justify their own narratives.
I mean all QB’s throwing 35 passes a game are probably going to run into trouble. If you’re throwing that much you’re probably losing. Look at Big Ben in the playoff game
@@christopherwaits7852 that’s not true. Guys like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, and even the rookie Justin Herbert would throw that on average. Big Ben could’ve done the same 2 years ago. He’s just regressing due to age and a predictable offense with no variations. It’s either going to be a slants, bubble screens, or in routes. I’m not even gonna talk about the run game cause it doesn’t exist
Dating back to the Elway days, the Stretch run/PA bootleg scheme has worked WONDERS for many QB’s.
Smart, well done piece, Samuel.
The drama got hurt. That helped them a lot.
agree with the secondary. they need depth and a compliment for delpit if he is good, add another linebacker and they will be competitive for the teams we play next year. which we will need considering they will be afc east and nfc west my guess.
I understand the stats on pressure vs. no pressure BUT the ravens game and the most recent 2 steelers game hes looked good with pressure.
Good analysis! Always appreciate your videos
I really like Baker. I'm a Jets fan but I watched him in college and think he going to be great.
I thought he did good under pressure vs the Steelers last week and he didn’t turnover the ball over once
"Some guy named Blake..." lol. the ultimate team, team.
Just found this channel. Love the content and I'm honestly binging all the videos. Subbed.
I like your nfl videos but I really love your draft breakdowns. When are you starting those?
Week after the Super Bowl! Got A LOT planned this year :)
If obj is back they got to get him in the short quick game instead of him always running deep routes and baker holding onto the ball and locking in on him and not throwing the open man
Starting corner and safety have been out all year with injuries . So help is already there if it can get healthy
And the middle of the D line (Andrew Billing). The Browns weak spots all have in house answers, now they need to add good depth and complimentary talent.
TJ watt was offside in the frame by frame of this.
Watt often does a lot of dirty shit. Not surprised when the film is broken down, Watt is caught. Unfortunately, refs are so sub par at their jobs it's often overlooked.
When baker is under pressure and sees a clear path to scrabble he should definitely take it he’s not slow one bit he’s got wheels id like him to use them for often
this is exactly what stefanski needed to do w baker. besides baker getting no serious coaching his 1st 2 years, in fact learning tons of bad habits, a lot of ppl forget he had flaws than needed fixing coming into the nfl. the arm talent, accuracy, work ethic & leadership were there, but he needed a lot of fine tuning he never got in years 1 & 2. stefanski had to brainwash baker & he did.
Which flaws were those?
"Brainwash" isn't really the term but ok
@@RylzMunkister specifically, baker had terrible footwork coming out of college, he needed to learn how to take snaps under center, something he never did in college, & his ability to make post-snap reads not good. i'd say brainwashing is exactly what stefanski needed to do with baker. he learned so many bad habits his 1st 2 years, stefanski had to take baker essentially back to square one as of it was his rookie year.
Awesome vid man. I watch a lot of football but am a lazy viewer. I don't get what certain plays mean or how to differentiate between different systems. This vid is making me want to take a more analytical approach to watching football, which will help me enjoy football on a whole new level! Keep up the work. HERE WE GO BROWNIES HERE WE GO
There isn't a better line coach than Callihan. The Cowboys line hasn't been the same since he left.
As a Vikings fan, I knew we were losing something good in Stefanski leaving.
Stefanski needs to fix the defense now
You should do an film on Washington rookie safety Kam Curl
Making the playoffs and beating your rival to do it. Throw in a pine tree and you've got the best Christmas ever.
He is throwing with his feet set
A smart coach will Taylor his offensive strategy to maximize his quarterback’s strengths.
2:27
This is the exact same play that led to a td in the playoffs
Can u mabye do a video on josh Allen’s progression?
NO NO NO..........NO!!.......THIS IS A BROWNS ONLY CHANNEL BUSTER! IF YOU AINT DOWN WITH DA DAWG POUND; THEN U DONT BELONG HERE!!! WOOF WOOF!!!!
@@10cavsfan my guy this guy does film on all teams
How Mayfield made Stevanski look like coach of the year.
What’re your thoughts on their upcoming playoff game against the Steelers? Do you think he’ll perform well and what do you think the final score will be? Great video btw!!
48-37 baby!!!
Right after they made him throw 50+ passes
4:10 what route is OBJ running, an out & up stop?
its not that baker is better without OBJ baker just got more comfortable in the offense unfortunately OBj was hurt during that time. can't wait to next season.
If you look at the numbers before and after odell’s injury, the numbers are even more drastic. And thats even including 3 games with awful weather and a game where every rostered wide receiver was out from close contact with covid. And i think there is significant correlation there. He always tried to force it to Odell when he wasn’t open. I’d trade him in the off-season tbh, baker simply plays much better without him
Browns fans to your non biased football fans have been begging for good coaching to the team for a long time. They could have been playoff contenders ages ago, better late than never.
Any coach with a brain wants a good offensive line. Look how badly the Chiefs fared wihout their starting tackles.
I really believe that kevin stefansky should be coach of the year. Because that team SUCKED for a long time
hes such a good coach that the game he missed was their best game of the year lol
Was there any correlation of bakers play with and without Beckham? Or the run game? Are teams stacking the box, giving more spaces for pass?
Baker played better without OBJ, but that's mainly b/c he stayed in structure with the offense. You can't blame OBJ for that. That's on Baker for over-relying on a star.
i hope they keep OBJ now that baker is getting comfortable in the system I think that him and Jarvis can shine
Two words. Nick Chubb
I’m only liking Bc you had to watch browns footage
11-5 and won a road playoff game.
Ya, terrible team to watch.
besides the new coach and staff doing an outstanding job...Baker is simple better without OBJ...He idolizes the guy and was forcing a lot to him.. his interception rate dropped off after OBJ was hurt. He now spreads it around instead of trying so hard to feed it to OBJ.
Under pressure rank was vs every other qb under pressure ?
Baker got better after he threw an INT and cost OBJ his knee
Still to be determined.......(every1 gets what ur saying)...but baker found himself, now that he knows he doesnt NEED Odell, that chemistry will finally form that bond between the two. He aint gonna force bad throws 2 odell anymore. I 100% believe that
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no analyze the pass rush that KC will be able to generate on CLE. That will tell you everything you need to know for this next game.
"Every QB gets worse under pressure"
Patrick Mahomes: "lol"
Samuel, I love your analysis. But I have to be honest, I was expecting more in depth analysis and film work on the Xs and Os. The reason why I love your channel is because you often offer that type of analysis that isn’t easy to come by anywhere else. But this video was filled with a lot of data generalizations that I do see a lot of other places or even could look up myself pretty easily. Stefanski runs plays that help Baker easily identify pre snap reads? Ok, usually you’d throw in a few technical examples shown in film work demonstrating some of these reads and concepts in action instead of just talking about the trend. I’m not disliking the video cause it’s not bad. It’s just not the signature Samuel Gold treatment I was expecting for my Browns.
I'll respectfully disagree, as this was supposed to be a more high-level analysis given the title of the video AND he absolutely got into the Xs and Os with Baker's increased comfort with the scheme, reads and throws.
Hey man - Thanks for the comment. The big reason for why honestly comes down to comfort and coaching which I tried to explain via first and second half of season differences. It's not a particular play or concept. It's not a particular run - which are mainly wide zone, inside zone, and power/counter. A big reason for their success this season has been making the offense and reads simpler for the QB and giving them predefined reads using the quick game, bootleg rollouts, etc... This is a staple of a classic Shanahan west coast offense. Stefanski has simplified what he's asked Baker to do. This does seem general but the key point is the following: Baker is at his best when he can stay in-rhythm and quickly see 1v1 matchups or quickly identify pre-snap where he should go with the ball. The scheme does that.
This video was less about pure X's and O's and more talking about general trends of fixing the Browns. The decisiveness and timing of this offense (scheme) is the main reason for them playing better. It's not even Baker necessarily.
Maybe I could have shown an example of Baker identifying matchups better with more ease? Honestly I felt like the bigger points of what I saw before the bye to after and his comfort in staying in structure was just way more important to talk about and illustrate.
Jeremy Chinn breakdown?
What do you think of the narrative that's being pushed that baker has started performing well once OBJ went down? The stats seem to give some credence to this idea, with his percentages getting better and touchdown rates going up/ int rates going down.
The basic idea being that without OBJ there, baker doesn't feel so obligated to force it to him, and can just make his natural reads. They went and got the superstar, he felt the need to force it to him to win games. So the narrative goes.
What do you think?
There is some truth to it but it's more on Baker not staying in structure with his offense. He over-relied on OBJ's skill set rather trusting his scheme and finding other openings (mainly check downs).
I think baker fixed himself, yes stefanzki is a great coach but a better coach doesn't make a qb better automatically a qb makes himself better
Yeah, the player needs to reality check himself too. No good comes from a good coach with effort and a player without any will to do good.
Look at Dick Vermeil and Lawrence Phillips in the late 90's
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As much as I like film study. I want to ask this. Have you ever played QB? I have. It’s hard. And when you make a throw and it’s a safe throw. You throw it because you know you can’t make it to the window anymore.
Doesn’t Mahomes get better under pressure?
His stats go down he ain't god lol
@@jfoster8624 according to Brett Kollman’s last video, (ruclips.net/video/xvzpCs9IYzY/видео.html) Mahome’s completion percentage, yards/attempt, and touchdown to interception ratio all go up when he faces a blitz. So to be fair, just because there’s a blitz does not necessarily mean he’s under pressure, but typically that means there will some pass rush pressure on him. Yeah he’s not god. But he’s really good. I’m not even a chiefs fan
@@codyhagen6705 blitzing isn’t necessarily pressure. Baker is actually good against the blitz too.
He didn't fix what baker already had....he fixed the Browns
Does he still live in the stadium ?
When will we see an entire division make the playoffs since it's now possible due to the seventh seed
I know Bakers injured this season but obviously there's other problems on offense. Recievers are struggling to get open especially against man coverage.When they do get open the drop the ball half the time. So low and behold defenses have figured out that they can't win with the pass. At this point they might as well let Van Pelt call the plays. Who know he could provide a spark. Stefanski is undoubtedly having a sophomore slump this year. They don't seem like the same team as last year especially regarding penalties.
Landry a usually reliable target, also Isn't playing like himself. Probably partly due to his nagging knee injury. On the bright the defense is playing great Football. They obviously need to go all offense next year through the draft and Free Agency. They need a guy that can stretch the field like OBJ that isn't as injury prone. Although most importantly wants to play on the Browns. OBJ's heart was never in Cleveland.
LET'S FACE IT NO O LINE NO PRIME TIME ! BRADY AVERAGE QB IF THAT!!!!!! HIS AVERAGE 5SECONDS
Should make a video HOW KEVIN STEFANSKI‘S BLEW THE CHIEFS GAME
To get rid of it. Couldn't scramble worth a sh__t his motivation heart and love for the game ....... stop stop his pic in the draft was 260 he told Robert craft it was the best decision he ever made.....sound familiar? Bake told Dorsey he would change the culture and franchise of Cleveland forever you dig. This comment is reverting back to my last comment. GO DAWGS
Gave him a good o-line......end of video
Who’s here after Joe cook stunk it up