Thanks for once again casting my mod! All "Last" races are basically Amon's servants, the Last Terrans being religous worshippers. I think you can see the Faith meter if you spectate a specific player instead of Everyone, though the green player didn't really engage with the mechanic anyway, which imo was detrimental. Using Dark God's Cathedral as a wall was an unexpected strategy, though it ended up crippling the economy and army production in the long run because no units could enter it to pray and generate Faith. Starting with Anthon for the Outcasts was also a really unorthodox choice. He is a great starting option in team games where he can heal, transport and teleport allied forces early on, though in 1v1s all Anthon can do is scout and try to outheal the damage done to base defenses.
The races here Last Terrans and Outcasts. Last Terrans are crazy worshippers of Amon. Their first gimmick is the Faith - they get global buffs based on how much faith they have, and can spend faith for units and powrful effects. And yes, you can use the cathedral as a permanent structure in tge enemy base for a cheese - just keep in mind that without faith Last Terrans are *crippled* lategame, and you can only generate faith by loading units in the cathedral, or starting a sermon, which freezes *everything* you have for 20 seconds. The second gimmick is that 90% of last terran units are multi-form units of come kind - like marines who can change between a plasma cannon for single-target damage, a missile launcher for AoE or a jump pack for mobility. The biggest drawback of last terrans is that their economy is slow and relies on faith - again, why cheesing with the cathedral the way Hit did in the 2nd game is bad in the long run. They also rely a lot on microing those multiform units. Outcasts are a hero faction. Their base is very unorthodox, as those hero structures are unkillable - you can damage them to disable them, but you can't actually kill them. All buildings are built instantly by the D4-D vessel, but they also rely on the powerfield from floating generators - no generators, and the structures shut down. Everything but supply depots also has to wait 50 seconds before they become activate after being dropped - 100 seconds for command center. They have 12 different heroes to choose from (though half of them are locked until you have at least one. Of those, you can make 4 (techically 5, but you have to have no workers to fit in the supply cap - its 30 for structure, 10 for the hero). Every hero has 5 upgrades that are researched instatnly in that hero's structure. Suffice to say outcasts take a while to gather up steam (having heroes timegated, and also requiring time to research weapon/armor upgrades), but once they do, there's little that can stop them - especially since their weapon/armor upgrades go up to *10*. Oh, and every hero's name starts with A.
From both a game play and observer perspective, a giant invulnerable church/bunker/upgrade center that builds in 5 seconds and blocks your opponent in is a pretty stupid idea. Seems beyond broken.
@@elephantoslsd It's a tradeoff. If you don't win with a cheese and you did build a cathedral in enemy base, you're finished, as without faith gain LT can't catch up to other races, and there won't be any faith gain if the cathedral is empty. But I agree that the cathedral should not be invulnerable the way it is. Maybe make it a mid-game research that makes it invulnerable (to prevent the enemy from sniping it).
The first game is the perfect reason why you don't go Anthon first - it means you die if you get cheessed. The second is disgusting. The cathedral being used as a permanent gate into enemy base in case of a cheese is powerful, but it also leaves you crippled inncase the cheese gets repelled - the cathedral only generates faith if units are in it (the faith is the cathedral's energy, fyi). Aaron is all about having thousands of hit points. Yes, that 5maxhp/sec DOES stack up to 6000 times, and it's just one of the ways he can get HP. But if he dies, all that hp is gone.
Which one? Honestly I haven't played Last Terrans much. I know their economy is weak, but I noticed Hit didn't even build the cathedral in the 3rd game. Sorry, but faith is way too important to LT to not build a cathedral. ESPECIALLY since the cathedral also acts as LT base defense and only costs 100 minerals IIRC. In case of outcasts, do *not* go Anthon first, or a least spend a lot on static defense if you do. As good as Anthon is as a supporter, he's defenseless, and just about every race will hit you with something before 5-minute mark. Meanwhile Aaron is built for countering high health juggernauts like those thors - his life drain will reduce them to 60 health in jiffy (note when it looked like Aaron was dancing in place in the 3rd game? That was him draining life!) AND beef up Aaron in the process. In any case, you don't want Aaron to beef up too much, as you have noticed he had around 4k health by the end, between sucking several thors dry and his passive health gain. Still, the cheesefest from Hit was a bit too painful to watch. He cheesed all three games, and while he won the 1st time because he caught MrKolos off guard, the 2nd and 3rd game MrKolos was ready and punished accordingly. Especially, as I said before, Hit completely disregarded the Faith mechanic (he only built the cathedral in the 2nd game to block MrKolos in his base, and never built it at all in the 3rd), and I think we would be in at least somehat better position if he did make use of it.
@@Kruggov Anthon is fine as the 1st pick because if you pick it, you do a defensive opener, its just yea ugh Anthon first against that cheese is pretty much fucked
I feel like, with such lmited options, the Outcasts are just an extremely reactive playstyle. After game 1 the games were mostly "same-y" because the player needed to keep responding to the same sort of proxy cheese. I like both races as concepts, but I feel like this matchup was a poor showing for both of them
yes you are right the player on the last terrans didn't reveal his race and didn't use many interesting moves and the other player just played against almost the same strategy and didn't change his much
Thanks for once again casting my mod! All "Last" races are basically Amon's servants, the Last Terrans being religous worshippers. I think you can see the Faith meter if you spectate a specific player instead of Everyone, though the green player didn't really engage with the mechanic anyway, which imo was detrimental. Using Dark God's Cathedral as a wall was an unexpected strategy, though it ended up crippling the economy and army production in the long run because no units could enter it to pray and generate Faith.
Starting with Anthon for the Outcasts was also a really unorthodox choice. He is a great starting option in team games where he can heal, transport and teleport allied forces early on, though in 1v1s all Anthon can do is scout and try to outheal the damage done to base defenses.
Hey man i hope you could add the azeroth and scion mods to your mods , tbh i dont really follow sc2 but this is cool.. hope that you consider!!😅
The races here Last Terrans and Outcasts.
Last Terrans are crazy worshippers of Amon. Their first gimmick is the Faith - they get global buffs based on how much faith they have, and can spend faith for units and powrful effects. And yes, you can use the cathedral as a permanent structure in tge enemy base for a cheese - just keep in mind that without faith Last Terrans are *crippled* lategame, and you can only generate faith by loading units in the cathedral, or starting a sermon, which freezes *everything* you have for 20 seconds. The second gimmick is that 90% of last terran units are multi-form units of come kind - like marines who can change between a plasma cannon for single-target damage, a missile launcher for AoE or a jump pack for mobility. The biggest drawback of last terrans is that their economy is slow and relies on faith - again, why cheesing with the cathedral the way Hit did in the 2nd game is bad in the long run. They also rely a lot on microing those multiform units.
Outcasts are a hero faction. Their base is very unorthodox, as those hero structures are unkillable - you can damage them to disable them, but you can't actually kill them. All buildings are built instantly by the D4-D vessel, but they also rely on the powerfield from floating generators - no generators, and the structures shut down. Everything but supply depots also has to wait 50 seconds before they become activate after being dropped - 100 seconds for command center. They have 12 different heroes to choose from (though half of them are locked until you have at least one. Of those, you can make 4 (techically 5, but you have to have no workers to fit in the supply cap - its 30 for structure, 10 for the hero). Every hero has 5 upgrades that are researched instatnly in that hero's structure. Suffice to say outcasts take a while to gather up steam (having heroes timegated, and also requiring time to research weapon/armor upgrades), but once they do, there's little that can stop them - especially since their weapon/armor upgrades go up to *10*.
Oh, and every hero's name starts with A.
keep it coming, the grind is real !!!
The grind is very real! Expect to see many more videos!
Fast flying thors are not OP at all, lol
This is fine, it's totally fine 😂
They feed arron. He ended up with 4k hp in the 3rd game
So its fine
From both a game play and observer perspective, a giant invulnerable church/bunker/upgrade center that builds in 5 seconds and blocks your opponent in is a pretty stupid idea. Seems beyond broken.
@@elephantoslsd It's a tradeoff. If you don't win with a cheese and you did build a cathedral in enemy base, you're finished, as without faith gain LT can't catch up to other races, and there won't be any faith gain if the cathedral is empty.
But I agree that the cathedral should not be invulnerable the way it is. Maybe make it a mid-game research that makes it invulnerable (to prevent the enemy from sniping it).
I love mods but this particular matchup looked turdy. 💩 2 Trash races with awful gimmicks.
yo love the best of 3 video. really gives you a chance to see the race and how cool they are.
hell yeah! more mods to watch and play!
@@jobereinicke7430 and we’ve still just scratched the surface of this mod!
@ElleixGaming for sure. I'm loving the cyberzerg right now but I've only played a handful of races so far lol
Gg kolos!
The first game is the perfect reason why you don't go Anthon first - it means you die if you get cheessed.
The second is disgusting. The cathedral being used as a permanent gate into enemy base in case of a cheese is powerful, but it also leaves you crippled inncase the cheese gets repelled - the cathedral only generates faith if units are in it (the faith is the cathedral's energy, fyi).
Aaron is all about having thousands of hit points. Yes, that 5maxhp/sec DOES stack up to 6000 times, and it's just one of the ways he can get HP. But if he dies, all that hp is gone.
how you play this hero race? everything too expensive i die too early
Which one?
Honestly I haven't played Last Terrans much. I know their economy is weak, but I noticed Hit didn't even build the cathedral in the 3rd game. Sorry, but faith is way too important to LT to not build a cathedral. ESPECIALLY since the cathedral also acts as LT base defense and only costs 100 minerals IIRC.
In case of outcasts, do *not* go Anthon first, or a least spend a lot on static defense if you do. As good as Anthon is as a supporter, he's defenseless, and just about every race will hit you with something before 5-minute mark. Meanwhile Aaron is built for countering high health juggernauts like those thors - his life drain will reduce them to 60 health in jiffy (note when it looked like Aaron was dancing in place in the 3rd game? That was him draining life!) AND beef up Aaron in the process. In any case, you don't want Aaron to beef up too much, as you have noticed he had around 4k health by the end, between sucking several thors dry and his passive health gain.
Still, the cheesefest from Hit was a bit too painful to watch. He cheesed all three games, and while he won the 1st time because he caught MrKolos off guard, the 2nd and 3rd game MrKolos was ready and punished accordingly. Especially, as I said before, Hit completely disregarded the Faith mechanic (he only built the cathedral in the 2nd game to block MrKolos in his base, and never built it at all in the 3rd), and I think we would be in at least somehat better position if he did make use of it.
@@Kruggov Anthon is fine as the 1st pick because if you pick it, you do a defensive opener, its just yea ugh Anthon first against that cheese is pretty much fucked
More Azeroth-Koprulu Hyperwar casts please :)
well you did it you didnt ask for sub and now i have to watch any other video you will post ;c
😂 I must have heard you call me out through time because this video was recorded before you posted your other comment lmaoo
Mod name?
The Ultimate Mode Of Erls: Reloaded
You can find this by creating a melee match and selecting “create with mod” and typing it in the search box
@@ElleixGaming thanks... are there refugee faction here?
@@stefanbacvanin5001 Yes they are, and they are not for the faint of heart.
I feel like, with such lmited options, the Outcasts are just an extremely reactive playstyle. After game 1 the games were mostly "same-y" because the player needed to keep responding to the same sort of proxy cheese. I like both races as concepts, but I feel like this matchup was a poor showing for both of them
yes you are right the player on the last terrans didn't reveal his race and didn't use many interesting moves and the other player just played against almost the same strategy and didn't change his much
Yup, I didnt want to risk much since this was a tournament