something ᵘˢᵉˡᵉˢˢ I noticed about lightning urns...
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- This might the most shockingly useless video I've ever made... and that's saying something.
Timecodes for time travellers-
0:00- You need to find the differences between these 2 pictures
1:33- Debug mode
2:55- Bonus item data
Big thanks to my Patreons for lightning urns! ⚡⚱️
/ limitbreakers 
Игры
actually I'm a big dumb dumb and some wiki's do mention the edge damage, but not the direct hit radius. I noticed this while throwing urns at slugs in the swamp, water detection is pretty janky there I thought they almost coded the slugs to act like water... but nah.
It's okay, that just makes this extra useless as I sit here eating my chicken and rice without lightning.
It's okay. If it's not useless, I won't watch this video..
it just doubles the uselessness factor, grandson would be proud.
It's ok, Old Man. We all know it was Grandson's fault....
GYAS
human bodies are made of 60% water, hitting a person with a lightning urn does the same water spread effect as it would on water but it just has nowhere to spread to. Miyazaki is truly a genius of our generation.
That... actually sounds like it could be a thing.
But does that still apply to hollows? They're kinda... you know, husk-y.
@@zyriantel9601 depends on how hollow anatomy works I guess. If we ever go back to DS. Series I really want a hollow pathologist. Pathologists are the people who preform autopsy’s, for the people who don’t know.
Ie: me before I looked it up.
@@garymcjerry get Roanoke Gaming on this
Except it does the same on nonhuman and nonorganic enemies too
@@trustytrest shhhhh
Ah lightning urns. Like miracle builds in a bottle.
So there are very few of them and they are useless anyways?
If I could save miracles in a bottle...
Honestly... They're debatably better lol
@@monsieurdorgat6864 i know hating miracles is a DS3 meme but come on
@@monsieurdorgat6864 idk man blessed lothric greatsword with an off hand lightning rapier is kinda bussin
Man, finding this small detail is such a miracle, I wonder who took the time to build it?
every day we stray further from god
deepest lore
maybe it's how I see this comment but wow so many puns 😆😆😆
にわかに信じ難いのですが改めて確認している
www.youtubemn.com/watch?v=ckFFt5ds70y
私が知ってる童話とは話が少し違うのですが、ゲームで違った話をきくのも楽しいですねჱ̒^._.^♡
Dead meme
I imagine they just wanted to reward a direct hit. The extra damage has to be urned.
A Lightning Urn a day keeps the old man away from making the miracle build.
This is pretty cool! I wish I had a build to take advantage of this.
Yeah it's called chaos.
@@incius8341 you clearly need some faith sir
@@M.A.R.S. Chaos weapons scale with faith and int though.
I'm absolutely ecstatic about every single one of your uploads.
Shocking discoveries! Electrifying new facts! They are absolute lightning in a bottle!
Yo yo
I guess the real question is… how did they get so much lightning in one urn…?
And where is the miracle build old man.
Perhaps check the trash can.
DS2 exclusive miracle build.
@@martk647 it's the only game where miracles can actualy do damage
@@yourdad5799 Elden Ring too.
@@martk647 they count as incantations there
The real question is...
Why do we still call them "hitboxes" if they're "hitballs"? 🤔
Polygons
Hit ma bªlls
Fightin gaems
The unironic answer is in older games when the term was created they were boxes
calm down spacezin
What miraculous data! It's weird how they built this game.
Miraculous yes, but certainly not intelligent.
nice pun
I love how even though Elden Ring still has so much to dig into, Limit still feels compelled to teach us about the most obscure DS3 details.
And we'll be here for it
It's a *miracle* that you discovered this
You’ve really *urned* my respect from your dedication to the cause of useless data.
My mouth is ajar
@@machinaeZER0 bu bu bum chiiii
It was likely originally designed to continue arcing to new targets everytime it found another within it's range, as a form of *chain lightning* attack. Ie: everytime the expanding hitboxes struck a valid target then those targets would emitt more expanding hitboxes too, and further and further, to end up perhaps chaining together a long chained row of 8+ (maybe infinite?) enemies as long as the gap between any 2 was never too big.
But they must've ended up scrapping the mechanic.
RIP chain lightning
@@R1R1R2 that would have made the deacons so much fun
I doubt it'd be infinite, and thered probably be something to stop it arcing back to a previous target.
Otherwise infinite arcs would mean infinite damage.
Yeah it's a decently common game mechanic. Shame it was cut since it would have made dealing with groups of NPCs much easier
@@idiotbuster8662 It could check so that it can only damage the same enemy once, so while it would still hit all enemies in a cluster, it would only hit each of them once. I think that would be best
Limit being a Jerma fan always makes my day
If you do not link the fire in 30 seconds this shrine will fill with GYAS
Make your choice
*NERVE AGENT*
The expanding smoke hitbox was reused for the vocano pots swarm pots and fly pot (yes the roped version has a different name for some reason) in elden ring.
My guess is that it's there to make it easier to land all more hits on a moving target
Also for some reason volcano pots deal fire damage but don't detonate powder kegs.
Miyazaki please explain.
My guess is it’s coded to spawn the balls any time it hits anything that isn’t terrain, and then it checks that what it hit has the arc property (like water or swamp) to determine if the balls move or not.
Technically it also arcs if you hit stuff like tables and chairs. But I had to cut it out.
I guess the Lightning urns we’re originally designed to take out cluster of enemies but was likely scrapped and never really focus too much into.🤔🐱
That sort of feature would more useful in Elden Ring.
さとみくんの解説付きで楽しかったです🥰
www.youtubemn.com/watch?v=8uRyssCrxNt
さとみくんの怖い話シリーズ(?)ってさとみくんがやると全然怖くないですwツッコミが面白い
Yeah I could see it as an "chain arcing" feature that got scrapped.
are you talking about miracle build?
The game is pretty much built on scrapped ideas
Lightning urns scale with faith! I wonder what kind of build they could be used in, then?
Strength build?
"Let me tell you boys something about Lightning Urns.
Something about Lightning Urns." - Uncle Phil (Probably)
whoever the person behind this channel is, your vids never miss (no hit or miss pun by the way) and i like your old man avatar andhow you create him in every soulsgame is kinda funny, maybe some old man lore some day?
love your videos, incredible script and great editing to carry it. it's a testament to your craft that a TTS voice is enough to carry your words.
your power to find weird shit in fromsoft games never ceases to amaze me, thank u for ur service
who else noticed Shrek in the background of 2:15
It's trully miraculous discovery you've made over here, Old Man!
Also, as it was told from the video, we are obviously should start building up our hopes for the next "whater properties" video!
Thank you for still making videos on the older games! Always interesting to see new stuff/details explored.
3:59 the aniticpation for what the joke was gonna be was great cuz it was funnier than i expected.
The 4:20 video length is the cherry on top
Is it a leftover thing from programming the water interaction (considering the identical damage and only lacking the hitboxes moving)
Or is it a small reward for landing the throw?
Considering this is From, we may never know
It's so shocking you keep finding new things! It's as if a bolt of inspiration hits you for every video! I love seeing the spark of creativity in every clip!
always a good time when LB drops something on my feed
Perfect length for a video about pots
Love your videos
theres not a lot of videos anymore than instantly make you smile and laugh
I love this channel
Now this is the content I subscribed for
Considering I probably never used a single lightning urn in all my 169 playthroughs I can confirm that this information is indeed, totally and utterly useless.
As always, Old Man-sensei provides exactly the kind of content that I come here for.
What a stupid thing to say, why would anyone not use a lightning urn?
@@tylerlackey1175 sword go swish swosh
@@korpen2858 guess bows and cross bows and sorcery and miracles are useless because swords exist
Maybe I should stop interacting with dark souls online. If stuff like this is what I'll be associated with I'd rather stay away
@@tylerlackey1175 well, maybe the miracle part *is* useless
@@allusionari some dork could probably write an if else function that does exactly what you just did. If there's an argument that has no counter then just spout out le heckin jokerino
Sickening
I'm always amazed at what you manage to find in these games
This video sparks joy. Thank you for epic gamer content.
This changes EVERYTHING!
Lightning urns best miracle confirm
Oh my God I'm crying just from the editing. Absolutely marvelous comedy
This right here is why i'm subbed
Amazing find, you are truly the top expert researcher on this matter.
Kaaaaabooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!
Thank You. Very good to know.
I love the fact that he put jerma's "gas" audio when throwing gas bombs
6 years later and it's still a miricale new stuff about how the game was built comes out.
Nice video length 👌
The most unnoticeable buff ever? You mean the DS3 Wolf Ring?
A new vid bout ds3 in a sea of elden ring videos is refreshing
The Ventrillo Harrasment reference was much appreciated. thank you.
Man these games are truly amazing nobody will ever actually discover everything in these games. So much attention to detail🙏👌👌 I wondered if you can chain players hitboxes who can deal damage to eachother and hit them all at once🤫
I've found something quite useless aswell Mr. OldMan. If you throw a Lightining Spear at the Firelink Shrine bonfire it makes a huge thunder effect. Try it out!
I can confirm I have no use for this information
Always used these on mid SL invasions instead of actual miracles. With 40 faith and a lightning/nat lightning blessed weapon they were the best spells and hit like a truck.
Jesus, was that a ventrilo harassment reference in 2022? You are a god, Limit
I LOVE IT
Maybe someone tried adding an attribute to lighting attacks where they can arc from enemy to enemy allowing you to create chains, but then gave up, or forgot, midway through and left it as is. Similar to that one illusory wall in Elden ring. Where instead of just putting a normal wall there, they raised the health of the illusory wall to an obscene amount and hoped no one would notice.
Thunderous applause for the video.
can it help miracle builds be more useful though
I love you for making me love DkS even more than I did 4 min and 20 sec ago. Also is this video a four twenty reference? Did I just lore hunt the secret juice of your explorations? 0o
Such short video it really is a lighting video by how fast it went by with a shocking fact. It's electrifying to see that there's something new to be discovered after conducting this meticulous search.
Really enjoying the small, angry man yells at trumpet player in New York City references
1:29 That is indeed a good question, one that I ask myself regularly
Limit Breakers could make a video about the smallest insignificant things and make it very entertaining through his editing.
The only RUclipsr who puts effort in a video when the community comes with info, Respect
I can't wait to hear the lore implications on this
The Jerma gas reference made this for me
That is fascinating for something that has zero practical applications and that I'll forget within the next few minutes and never think about again in my life.
these are always useless, but they also always make me happy
Thanks!
Nice, appreciated the tf2 and Jerma references
My brain processing the joke at 4:15 : Wait what? *five seconds later* Ooooh!!!
maybe the added hitbox on impact is like that bc lightning can conduct between people
Damn, now it's in my head again....
Water and water and water water...
I love the little "GYAS" from jerma
It kills me everytime you splice in trumpet fight sound clips lol
This will literally change my play style.
what a miraculous discovery, trully a welt built video.
I guess the Lightning urns were the friends we made along the way
you've urn'ed my sub m8
"Yo!" 0:00 cracks me up
3:52 thank you for that
love it
Removing the leeches for the debug mode transition is genius
The jerma reference caught me off guard
2:11 I love this channel.
Holy hell. The reference to the old Duke Nukem vent harassment video!
Ok, long time fan...but until that last pun, haven't subbed.
But you urned this....yeah, I can't ignore greatness like that
YEEAAHH !!
That was a really good video! You are doOoOoOoOo........wHeRe Is ThE mIrAcLe BuIlD oLd MaN...........ing a very good job!
Ordis, who let you out of the orbiter?
Would agree with the others that it's likely some variant of a chain mechanic that did not fully make it in. Would be interesting to see how this relates to other such weird interactions though...lightning on water, fire on oil, maybe even that weird wetness you could have in ds2 from the iron keep urns or healing pools. Hitboxes come dangerously close to being useful data, but if this has not been discovered yet, it likely has no practical application
The Shrek was amazing
I think its a trigger that detects collision with an entity, water perhaps is classified as such, and triggers the expansion, but normal enemies when hit directly do not cause the expansion of the secondary hitboxes like water does, so direct hits just have a slight bit of extra damage and a tiny bit of extra range as a result of this code being set up this way.
Did yo check is point blank Sunlight spear caused the same? i think i remember that the spear sweet spots generate a extra hitbox too
When i played ds3, i had noticed a little delay at the hits that the mobs took after i threw a bomb, and now i know what it was : )
spleeeesh
"You've urned this" is the most painful joke I've ever heard, I have to find ways to use it now.
oh my god i knew that when he said "hit or miss" in a split second its going to be the SONG- AND HERE IT IS...
Turns out this video was indeed teh urn.