Excellent analysis and review as usual! Thank you! I was extremely interested in the Palisade and shopped it at length in 2022. I also shopped the Highlander at the same time. I found the Palisade to be comfortable, powerful, features galore, and very roomy. I really like it. My wife didn't like the looks on the outside, but I do. However, when it came to negotiations, Hyundai in our area of Florida were tacking on a 20% (really) non-negotiable premium, and severely underpaying for trafe-ins. The dealership itself was unimpressive, and the genesis vehicles were on one side, and Hyundai on the other. Our salesperson would constantly step away to talk to perspective Genesis clients. The maintenance facilities were equally unimpressive, understanding that their reliability was a big question mark. On the other hand, Toyota has a beautiful facility and separate maintenance facility (plus I was trading in a 2021 Venza I had purchased from them), BUT they had added a blatant "Market Adjustment " of $4,995 to every Highlander. So that was not acceptable either. I ended up with a 2022 Lexus RX 450hl (hybrid) and had an incredible dealership experience, second to none (with NO add ons). The car is powerful, quiet, smooth and very comfortable. But, it also has downsides having an absolutely useless 3rd row and it's rounded shape takes away from the feeling of spaciousness and cargo space. Fortunately, it's just my wife and I, so the 3rd row is always down and we use it for extended trunk space. Unfortunately, if we have to drive 3 or more extra people, it's almost impossible and embarrassing. So, always a tradeoff. I do agree that the lack of power folding mirrors on the Palisade is a huge miss and the lack of wireless Android and Apple on the big screen is mystifying considering how up to date Hyundai's technology is!
Thanks for your take on the experience with Hyundai. I also like their vehicles but I'm not sold on the long term reliability and customer support. I've been driving Mazdas for years and while the cars are excellent the dealership experience is lacklustre. Hope you enjoy your Lexus.
@kartofle123 Thanks so much. I do also like and respect the Mazda brand, being a former Mazda owner myself. Love the quality, handling and pep! Happy holidays!
How did you like your Venza? I have a 2023 Limited on order that should be arriving in a month or two, and I can’t wait. How do you like it compared to the RX. I know it’s kind of like an RX from a different timeline, if you consider the history of the RX and Toyota Harrier. Would love to hear any major complaints about the Venza, as well as your favorite things. Also, why you chose to sell it!
Yes I went with the palisade calligraphy as well due to the few interiors extra amenities and extra nicer features. Hope you are enjoying it as much as I am. ✌️
Well done folks! IMO, Telluride is the choice BUT in the states, the Palisade Calligraphy is a bargain compared to the top end Telluride SX Prestige X-Pro AWD. That model tops at $56,000 US. And, because of the shortage and demand, Kia dealers have no shame in adding another 5-10K for a “market adjustment” which moves it into Lexus RX, Acura MDX and other luxury brands territory. There are many choices at that price range so you can choose, or keep driving what you have until the market comes back to some normalcy. Cheers.
hello great review couple the HYUNDAI PALISADE is sold with a 3.5 V6 MPI 277 HP and 8 speed auto transmission with a hefty price of US $ 53, 490. Very expensive for our earnings. Great review as per usual, and the summer is coming in LIMA PERU. I can't wait to enjoy swimming in the Pacific ocean this summer.
I got my 23 Palisade XRT yesterday. Heated steering wheel is useless in FL and ventilated seats eh, I don't feel I'm missing much. This truck has everything and more and the blacked out trim level just makes the "offroad" trim look phenomenal. The number of features goes beyond what I was expecting. Hyundai Palisade also just looks better this year than any other 3rd row. Extremely happy with the purchase.
@@thefulchman I do see the value added in the additional features for 4k on the limited and if thats the selling point for you it should be a strong consideration. For me personally, I was attracted to the overall look of the XRT and felt I was not sacrificing anything in the way of features/tech that would alter my driving experience or enjoyment in the truck. Still very much in love with everything that came equipped and still believe its the best looking 3rd row SUV in this model year.
Gas actually went down quite a bit. Around $1.40/L now around me. Used to be as high as $2.20. I think it's pricing and availability of new cars is what hurts a lot more.
Nice job guys. Another excellent review. Comprehensive…. I like both the Kia and Hyundai. I’ve driven both. Amazing how different they are both inside and out when they’re basically sisters. Stay well.
@@jameslee5237 I felt the Pallisade gave a more “luxury” smooth ride vs Telluride had a comfortable secure ride. My daughter has a ‘22 Kia Telluride and loves it. Very nice vehicle. Both good yet both different.
Ok guys you never talked about the parking Feature as when you’re parking in a parking structure the Palisades will pull forward on it’s own so you don’t bump the doors of the cars next to you ! I absolutely love my new 2023 Palisades
Nice Review... Could you guys potentially make a new review on the Tundra, specifically nonhybrid version? It seems hard to find quality reviews for the Tundra, especially practical ones like your reviews.
I like to make sure I bring my vehicles in for their required service at the various intervals ..but how does that work with a hybrid ? If I drive around using the hybrid and not the gas motors how do I know when it will need a oil change ?
The owners manual book gives you a recommended change interval. It's the same as the gas version in Toyota. The gas motor on a regular hybrid comes comes on often enough. Plug-in hybrid, not so sure since you could drive short trips for months without starting the engine. I would think you just do oil changes every 6 months regardless of engine usage, but I'm not sure.
Zack is getting me all fired up about the Kia/ Hyundai crucial omission with the lack of wireless connectivity. Hyundai said it was coming back in 2019; this is unacceptable in the current model year.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but the Hyundai Palisade does not have power folding mirrors since they made them auto-dimming in the new refresh. The Telluride does not have auto-dimming mirrors but has power folding ones. I'm assuming they both made choices on what to add while meeting a certain pricepoint so I can't blame them for not adding power folding. I personally think auto-dimming mirrors are more useful and luxury-like, since you can always fold the mirrors manually. I think Hyundai made the right choices in making the Palisade closer to luxury. The nicer quilted massage seats with thigh extension, ventilated seats and heated 3rd row with power folding. I think they also added acoustic glass all over, more aluminium finished buttons on the Calligraphy etc. The Palisade is now the better car as of this refresh. It's always nice to see them competing even against each other, considering both are class leaders.
YES!! The chromatic dimming side mirrors are AWESOME and I don't understand why more cars don't use them! I had them with my Viracruz and loved it. As stated, whats the BFD in folding in the mirrors manually?? I do that all the time with my Highlander...EASY! The car is expensive enough plus its just one more mechanical system to fail down the road.
Nice review…I’m hearing the power folding mirror issue could be COVID related and supply…my 85K Wagoneer doesn’t even have them this model year!! And as for wireless CarPlay, I’ll go out on the limb and say most people who have it, wire their phone to charge it, or have connectivity problems at times (I do in my Wagoneer so just plug it in)…most vehicles that I’ve test driven have crappy wireless charging (or none at all!), and when you are using your phone (podcast, music, Pandora), it drains the battery as fast as it charges….so, don’t really care that you need to wire your iPhone…I’m seriously considering the Palisade (Telluride was too stiff for me like you guys)…BUT, that V-6 from Hyundai has been around forever and it’s a pretty old technology…worried about carbon buildup and the fact that it’s a vestige from the days when Hyundais were not considered very good cars…will need to deep dive the reliability of the power train before I buy.
Can you remove the "For your consideration" part of the competition section? That always feels repetitive to me 😋 As for this car, totally agree that no wireless AA or CarPlay is a deal breaker in a car that's trying to look so futuristic but isn't delivering. Currently that's my biggest gripe with Tesla
Agreed, noticed that too. Feels repetitive saying consideration and consider in the same sentence. Remove the first part or change it to "For your consideration, 4 cars for you to take a look at".
Would you go Palisade or the Grand Cherokee Limited? I like the exterior of the jeep better but the interior I think is better in the Palisade but want to know your opinion currently I am on the Grand Cherokee.
To each their own… but I do not want to pay extra for a 3rd row seat, power side view mirrors, wireless, heated rear or cooled seats (or powered rear controls), air suspension, perfume accent systems or even a powered lift gate. Whether it be the price, the extra weight or the reliability of these extras (two people I know opened their lift gates in the Winter and … well Winter won and Hyundai made some serious money for the repairs - maybe these people are idiots but … it happens)… I just want a very well built luxuriously appointments for the front passengers (the owners/the parents) with great reliable build quality. 5-10 years ago we didn’t need all this stuff, so why should every car have them. Though… some should for those other (majority?) people who do. That’s my rant. That said… I’m finally a convert! I now prefer the Palisade over the Telluride. I think that KIA’s latest external refresh did not evolve it’s unique look, the Hyundai made this latest Palisade look so much more regal. Or as Andrea said “stately”. Well done Hyundai! Thanks for another great review.
Competition is getting tough. Honda just came out with new Pilot, the new Mazda cx90 is being announced in January and then the Toyota Grand highlander will be announced in 2023. Lots of choice
Honda is overpriced like crazy and very cheaply equipped. Current Highlander is too small inside, we'll see what Grand Highlander will look like. I'm guessing it will cost more than Kia and Hyundai. CX90 should be interesting but not much is known yet. There is also VW Atlas that compares well on the space and price but is not as powerful and well equipped.
@@janoycresnova9156 I just drove in the vw atlas and it's nice but feels cheap. If the Atlas is well priced it could be a nice comprimise for a family suv. I am also waiting for the Highlander. I think the big question is how many will they make and when will it be available.
I used to think that turbo charging small engine was the best ways to imcrease efficiency. But the 5 months Ive had my Rav4 Hybrid, I've changed my mind. I think the Atkinson cycle is better. I drive mostly country roads(incase you don't know, the standard hybrid system runs the gas motor all the time at higher speeds, thus the electric side of the hybrid doesn't play as big as role), and it's getting gas milage that my parents Civic gets but in more situations. Even on a 4 lane highway, I'm always amazed at how how little gas that unit uses. I like the Palisade, like the Telluride more, love the hybrid Highlander(driven them at work). Not a bad choice in those 3 though.
I own the 2023 Calligraphy. Do wish they had power folding mirrors. I like the Palisade exterior but the KIA widescreen Interior. I prefer the buttons for gear shifting in the Palisade vs a traditional gear in the KIA. I like the slightly angled rear of the KIA. The Palisade has a boxy look at the back. That's about it.
Was all on board for one of the two, then the 2023 pricing came out. Both companies have realized how both vehicles are in demand so they have over priced them. Now they’re out of my budget range.
Hi Andrea, no wonder Zack looked a bit scared, 3.8 L capacity under the hood is nothing to be sniffed at. Well appointed car specification and seems to do the job it's intended for. A massive car, and the engine moves the bulk around quite well.
Yeah, no wireless AA/Carplay? What's up with that? I heard there were some arguments with vendors/manufacturers on this - and customers are paying for that battle. I have a much more expensive Genesis GV70 - and it also does not have wireless AA - but I do have a Motorola MA1 to take care of that...but I shouldn't have to.
I haven't driven the Palisade or the Telluride...I had a Atlas for two weeks and went on a road trip with that. The suspension on the Atlas was poor over small ruts and slightly rough road. Very good on smooth pavement.
@@alvinsimba734 I had a rental...I was surprised tho. It made me think about what the Audi Q7 would be like. I never looked into the set up of the suspension. Only thing I didn't like about it.
@@nealjohnson5059 I see, the only reason I asked about that was because I had a vehicle that was torsion beam suspension and the advantage of it is that it's cheap if built right, however the ride quality around bumps roads it's noisy and when windy on the highway you can feel it more side to side. With a multi link rear suspension " you are planted on the ground" and the ride quality is immense and also softer.
This is from Consumer Reports magazine: "The Palisade is a very practical, competitive, and appealing vehicle. However, compared to the Telluride, it has a less plush ride." It seems they are saying the exact opposite of your experience that the Palisade had the better ride. For some reason I am more inclined to believe YOUR take. Do you still stand by your opinion that the Palisade has the better ride? I am leaning towards this over the Telluride so your opinion matters to me.
I think wireles CarPlay is exaggerated. Wired one is more reliable for me. And Driving comfort is more important for me (better seats and suspension in Pallisade) than folding side mirrors or physical gear shifter. Hence Pallisade for me over Telluride.
I had a Lyft ride today in a Palisade, i was quite impressed with the interior space. What about the safety features like Forward Collision Assistance/Cross Traffic, is is standard on all Palissades?
Hear me out… my phone never charges on my wireless charging pad in the car, it moves to much. Wireless CarPlay also drains my phones battery, so I don’t mind plugging in. Usually it’s more reliable and charges my phone better.
This. I don't understand why people want wireless. It's going to drain your phone so fast and you won't even realize until you get to your destination.
Amazing review as always! Thanks Andrea and Zach! I think I'm sticking with the 23 Telluride but do wish the driver's seat was comfier with the massage option. I also love the fact that the Palisade is softer in it's suspension but Telluride just looks so much better. For the looks alone, I'll have to forego that additional drivers comfort and soft suspension.
For me it's Palisade in the exterior looks department all day long. However the massage seats are not your roller massagers. It just inflates and deflates part of the seat, which just feels like a cushion raising against your back as opposed to rollers that are found in massage chairs.
We wanted the SEL w/the premium package as it adds so many options and we don't have to live with that chrome grill. However, since none of the models have wireless CarPlay, we may have to look at something like the Pilot instead. It's a shame since there are so many cool options on the Palisade!
When you came to stop sign the car took a nose dive which is a sure tell of soft suspension. I would buy the lower trim but it doesn't come with heated steering wheel.
I’ve had a 2023 palisade calligraphy in Canada for a couple months now. Special notes that I found after the fact- in Canada there are no heated seats in the 3rd row. Also there is no digital key in Canada, after speaking to bluelink Canada there is currently no plan on them introducing the digital key either.
It looks good…….but center console looks very wide. I don’t understand why many do that. It makes it feel like it’s a smaller vehicle…….not leg wiggle room. 😊
That is the worst grill I have ever seen. That aside, I wish you could speak to the expected reliability of these models. I shy away from Kia and Hyundai because of their past reliability performance. They seem to drive well and are cheaper than competitors, but long-term you get what you pay for.
I like the Palisade a lot, but the wheels on the Calligraphy are horrible. Hyundai should make a couple of wheel options on that trim level instead of wrongly assuming that everyone who wants a Calligraphy wants a Euro multispoke wheel.
I wish that the reviewers would quit crying about the lack of wireless Apple car play and Android. The Hyundai has a lot more equipment than it’s competitors for the money. Have you never experienced signal drop out over wireless. Is it that hard to plug a phone in. I love my 2022 Calligraphy. It is comfortable, rides nice and gets decent mileage for its size.
Good luck with rock chips on that plastic chrome grill. The only recourse is replacement or covering with ppf - what a pain. And a push button shifter - the answer to the question that was never asked. I would take a Mazda CX 9 for the drive, torque and appearance, every, single, time. The Mazda CX 90 will be an even more interesting option and likely, again, a much better handling vehicle, never mind a luxury, straight six cylinder.
Old schools engin 15w30. Known for carbon build up. Change oil every 5000 miles. Lots of driving noise in cabin bc a long area underneath the car is not insulated. The exhaust pipes don't have a good weld. 😕 There's two places where Huundai installed mesh. That means it will leak down the road. Design mess up. Interior is cool. Ride is OK. Noisy. Tires are soft, cheap and not rugged enough.
Great review, been comparing the Telluride and Pallisade. As for no wireless Android auto, there is an easy solution.....they sell adapters you can plug in then you can use wireless with your phone. Works great and east. Not having it is not a big deal.
Uses Bluetooth on your phone with the adapter and it is not very reliable. A lot of hit and misses with the adapter, plus why pay additional for an option that should be standard? SMH
Interesting comment on the seat comfort vs the Telluride-I have not seen similar comments in other reviews. I do not know how to square your review with others like Edmunds, for example. Telluride-"Plush ride and well-shaped seats offer all-day comfort._Palisade-"Comfortable seating and ride quality."
The Telluride seats are definitely firmer, I am surprised to hear that other reviewers think they are equally as comfortable as the Palisade. The Telluride seats are similar to the Kia Sorento which are also firm.
@@andreaspencer9813 Interesting. Thanks for the comment. If I am not mistaken, you guys tested the top trim levels in each (SXP and Calligraphy). Seat comfort being very important to me, I test drove several Telly trim levels and, not surprisingly, found the Telluride SXP Nappa leather seats more comfortable than the lower trim levels. I wasn't interested in the Palisade because of the lack of power folding mirrors so did not drive them. So I ordered a 2023 Telluride SXP. Hope I made the right decision-you guys have me a bit concerned. I guess I can add a butt cushion if I need it! 😁
I test drove the Telluride, the seats and ride are firmer which gave the impression of handling a bit sturdier. I do prefer the softer ride of the Palisade, which drives similarly to the Hyundai Santa Fe.
I like this vehicle’s interior with lots of features but exterior is ok. I don’t like the front design. It’s seems like a wall. I am surprise they using V6 not 4. And too pricey for me. Great video Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
You are right, it's a great SUV but 3-row options are becoming more expensive. It's nice to see the Palisade come with so many features, you do feel like you are getting a lot for your money.
@@andreaspencer9813 hello Andrea this vehicle needs a DIESEL engine to improve the fuel economy. It is sold with 2.2 CRDi turbo diesel with 204 HP but 440 Nm of torque from 1750 rpm to 2750 rpm. And you need the torque to move this mass. the fuel consumption is 7.3 L/100 km in a combined driving.
Agree about the wireless car play (Apple and Android). Cannot believe they do not offer wireless with the better trims. Mind boggling and turns me away from buying this vehicle. Their two things to improve I agree 100%. So close to being a really great vehicle! Last, like the dash infotainment center on the Telluride better. Seems more modern and streamlined.
Definitely the Telluride, despite B.C's iffy Kia dealer network of sales and service. I still can't get past those "push button" gear levers. Hyundai already the most user-friendly one, of the crops of horrible ones. Honda/Acura and Lincoln are absolutely terrible.
Yup, I've heard that too (also in Edmonton). So - great vehicles, but you can't actually get one. If you see one in stock, they add $10-15K in market adjustments...very crooked dealerships!
Excellent analysis and review as usual! Thank you! I was extremely interested in the Palisade and shopped it at length in 2022. I also shopped the Highlander at the same time. I found the Palisade to be comfortable, powerful, features galore, and very roomy. I really like it. My wife didn't like the looks on the outside, but I do. However, when it came to negotiations, Hyundai in our area of Florida were tacking on a 20% (really) non-negotiable premium, and severely underpaying for trafe-ins. The dealership itself was unimpressive, and the genesis vehicles were on one side, and Hyundai on the other. Our salesperson would constantly step away to talk to perspective Genesis clients. The maintenance facilities were equally unimpressive, understanding that their reliability was a big question mark. On the other hand, Toyota has a beautiful facility and separate maintenance facility (plus I was trading in a 2021 Venza I had purchased from them), BUT they had added a blatant "Market Adjustment " of $4,995 to every Highlander. So that was not acceptable either. I ended up with a 2022 Lexus RX 450hl (hybrid) and had an incredible dealership experience, second to none (with NO add ons). The car is powerful, quiet, smooth and very comfortable. But, it also has downsides having an absolutely useless 3rd row and it's rounded shape takes away from the feeling of spaciousness and cargo space. Fortunately, it's just my wife and I, so the 3rd row is always down and we use it for extended trunk space. Unfortunately, if we have to drive 3 or more extra people, it's almost impossible and embarrassing. So, always a tradeoff. I do agree that the lack of power folding mirrors on the Palisade is a huge miss and the lack of wireless Android and Apple on the big screen is mystifying considering how up to date Hyundai's technology is!
Thanks for your take on the experience with Hyundai. I also like their vehicles but I'm not sold on the long term reliability and customer support. I've been driving Mazdas for years and while the cars are excellent the dealership experience is lacklustre. Hope you enjoy your Lexus.
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@kartofle123 Thanks so much. I do also like and respect the Mazda brand, being a former Mazda owner myself. Love the quality, handling and pep! Happy holidays!
@@kiwan5425 Still a Kia 🤮
How did you like your Venza? I have a 2023 Limited on order that should be arriving in a month or two, and I can’t wait. How do you like it compared to the RX. I know it’s kind of like an RX from a different timeline, if you consider the history of the RX and Toyota Harrier. Would love to hear any major complaints about the Venza, as well as your favorite things. Also, why you chose to sell it!
Just bought the Calligraphy... It was the seat comfort comments that helped me decide. Thank you both.
Yes I went with the palisade calligraphy as well due to the few interiors extra amenities and extra nicer features. Hope you are enjoying it as much as I am. ✌️
Well done folks! IMO, Telluride is the choice BUT in the states, the Palisade Calligraphy is a bargain compared to the top end Telluride SX Prestige X-Pro AWD. That model tops at $56,000 US. And, because of the shortage and demand, Kia dealers have no shame in adding another 5-10K for a “market adjustment” which moves it into Lexus RX, Acura MDX and other luxury brands territory. There are many choices at that price range so you can choose, or keep driving what you have until the market comes back to some normalcy. Cheers.
hello great review couple the HYUNDAI PALISADE is sold with a 3.5 V6 MPI 277 HP and 8 speed auto transmission with a hefty price of US $ 53, 490. Very expensive for our earnings. Great review as per usual, and the summer is coming in LIMA PERU.
I can't wait to enjoy swimming in the Pacific ocean this summer.
Yeah that grill.....doesn't work for me. You guys do a great job of describing the driving experience.
I got my 23 Palisade XRT yesterday. Heated steering wheel is useless in FL and ventilated seats eh, I don't feel I'm missing much. This truck has everything and more and the blacked out trim level just makes the "offroad" trim look phenomenal.
The number of features goes beyond what I was expecting. Hyundai Palisade also just looks better this year than any other 3rd row.
Extremely happy with the purchase.
I'm in FL and the ventilated seats are the only thing that makes me want to upgrade to higher models that have them.
@@thefulchman I do see the value added in the additional features for 4k on the limited and if thats the selling point for you it should be a strong consideration. For me personally, I was attracted to the overall look of the XRT and felt I was not sacrificing anything in the way of features/tech that would alter my driving experience or enjoyment in the truck. Still very much in love with everything that came equipped and still believe its the best looking 3rd row SUV in this model year.
@@thefulchman Ceramic Window tinting for ALL windows even the front windshield.
Cost around $6-$700, you can thank Me Later……….
with the price of gas I am still driving my echo
Gas actually went down quite a bit. Around $1.40/L now around me. Used to be as high as $2.20. I think it's pricing and availability of new cars is what hurts a lot more.
Nice job guys. Another excellent review. Comprehensive…. I like both the Kia and Hyundai. I’ve driven both. Amazing how different they are both inside and out when they’re basically sisters. Stay well.
Thank you, really glad you enjoyed it!
What’s your opinion on seat, ride, and noise comfort between the two?
@@jameslee5237 I felt the Pallisade gave a more “luxury” smooth ride vs Telluride had a comfortable secure ride. My daughter has a ‘22 Kia Telluride and loves it. Very nice vehicle. Both good yet both different.
i saw one of these for the first time last week and never realised how huge it was, i can see why its so popular in north america
Ok guys you never talked about the parking Feature as when you’re parking in a parking structure the Palisades will pull forward on it’s own so you don’t bump the doors of the cars next to you ! I absolutely love my new 2023 Palisades
I am loving your Marcel Marceau miming shtick in the rear seat reviews Zak! Thanks for the excellent informative reviews you two, the best out there🍻
Please do VW Atlas vs Palisade/Telluride comparison
All the quilting is gone...Zack must be happy!
Nice Review... Could you guys potentially make a new review on the Tundra, specifically nonhybrid version? It seems hard to find quality reviews for the Tundra, especially practical ones like your reviews.
You are always so beautiful in your car drive review's and it is a joy to follow your journey in the car world.
Thank you but what about Andrea?
I like to make sure I bring my vehicles in for their required service at the various intervals ..but how does that work with a hybrid ? If I drive around using the hybrid and not the gas motors how do I know when it will need a oil change ?
The owners manual book gives you a recommended change interval. It's the same as the gas version in Toyota. The gas motor on a regular hybrid comes comes on often enough. Plug-in hybrid, not so sure since you could drive short trips for months without starting the engine. I would think you just do oil changes every 6 months regardless of engine usage, but I'm not sure.
@@ghenry85 , so if its the same as the gas version and I run mostly in hybrid mode I’m possibly spend money on an oil change I really don’t need
@@gobear83 its likely longer intervals than the non hybrid models. You just go with what the manual says. Engineers thought of things like this.
Zack is getting me all fired up about the Kia/ Hyundai crucial omission with the lack of wireless connectivity. Hyundai said it was coming back in 2019; this is unacceptable in the current model year.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but the Hyundai Palisade does not have power folding mirrors since they made them auto-dimming in the new refresh. The Telluride does not have auto-dimming mirrors but has power folding ones. I'm assuming they both made choices on what to add while meeting a certain pricepoint so I can't blame them for not adding power folding. I personally think auto-dimming mirrors are more useful and luxury-like, since you can always fold the mirrors manually. I think Hyundai made the right choices in making the Palisade closer to luxury. The nicer quilted massage seats with thigh extension, ventilated seats and heated 3rd row with power folding. I think they also added acoustic glass all over, more aluminium finished buttons on the Calligraphy etc. The Palisade is now the better car as of this refresh. It's always nice to see them competing even against each other, considering both are class leaders.
Genesis vehicles have auto-dimming and power folding mirrors, so Hyundai has the part...they should use it!!
YES!! The chromatic dimming side mirrors are AWESOME and I don't understand why more cars don't use them! I had them with my Viracruz and loved it. As stated, whats the BFD in folding in the mirrors manually?? I do that all the time with my Highlander...EASY! The car is expensive enough plus its just one more mechanical system to fail down the road.
Nice review…I’m hearing the power folding mirror issue could be COVID related and supply…my 85K Wagoneer doesn’t even have them this model year!! And as for wireless CarPlay, I’ll go out on the limb and say most people who have it, wire their phone to charge it, or have connectivity problems at times (I do in my Wagoneer so just plug it in)…most vehicles that I’ve test driven have crappy wireless charging (or none at all!), and when you are using your phone (podcast, music, Pandora), it drains the battery as fast as it charges….so, don’t really care that you need to wire your iPhone…I’m seriously considering the Palisade (Telluride was too stiff for me like you guys)…BUT, that V-6 from Hyundai has been around forever and it’s a pretty old technology…worried about carbon buildup and the fact that it’s a vestige from the days when Hyundais were not considered very good cars…will need to deep dive the reliability of the power train before I buy.
Can you remove the "For your consideration" part of the competition section? That always feels repetitive to me 😋
As for this car, totally agree that no wireless AA or CarPlay is a deal breaker in a car that's trying to look so futuristic but isn't delivering. Currently that's my biggest gripe with Tesla
Agreed, noticed that too. Feels repetitive saying consideration and consider in the same sentence. Remove the first part or change it to "For your consideration, 4 cars for you to take a look at".
Would you go Palisade or the Grand Cherokee Limited? I like the exterior of the jeep better but the interior I think is better in the Palisade but want to know your opinion currently I am on the Grand Cherokee.
To each their own… but I do not want to pay extra for a 3rd row seat, power side view mirrors, wireless, heated rear or cooled seats (or powered rear controls), air suspension, perfume accent systems or even a powered lift gate. Whether it be the price, the extra weight or the reliability of these extras (two people I know opened their lift gates in the Winter and … well Winter won and Hyundai made some serious money for the repairs - maybe these people are idiots but … it happens)… I just want a very well built luxuriously appointments for the front passengers (the owners/the parents) with great reliable build quality. 5-10 years ago we didn’t need all this stuff, so why should every car have them. Though… some should for those other (majority?) people who do. That’s my rant.
That said… I’m finally a convert! I now prefer the Palisade over the Telluride. I think that KIA’s latest external refresh did not evolve it’s unique look, the Hyundai made this latest Palisade look so much more regal. Or as Andrea said “stately”. Well done Hyundai! Thanks for another great review.
And … I think Hyundai is fairly priced… despite my rant.
Competition is getting tough. Honda just came out with new Pilot, the new Mazda cx90 is being announced in January and then the Toyota Grand highlander will be announced in 2023. Lots of choice
Honda is overpriced like crazy and very cheaply equipped. Current Highlander is too small inside, we'll see what Grand Highlander will look like. I'm guessing it will cost more than Kia and Hyundai. CX90 should be interesting but not much is known yet. There is also VW Atlas that compares well on the space and price but is not as powerful and well equipped.
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@@janoycresnova9156 I just drove in the vw atlas and it's nice but feels cheap. If the Atlas is well priced it could be a nice comprimise for a family suv. I am also waiting for the Highlander. I think the big question is how many will they make and when will it be available.
@@naveenthemachine It hasn't even come out yet :)
Great vlog!! You did not mention Caligraphy (unless I missed the mention). Is this still the top trim?
Yes it is the Calligraphy trim.
I used to think that turbo charging small engine was the best ways to imcrease efficiency. But the 5 months Ive had my Rav4 Hybrid, I've changed my mind. I think the Atkinson cycle is better. I drive mostly country roads(incase you don't know, the standard hybrid system runs the gas motor all the time at higher speeds, thus the electric side of the hybrid doesn't play as big as role), and it's getting gas milage that my parents Civic gets but in more situations. Even on a 4 lane highway, I'm always amazed at how how little gas that unit uses.
I like the Palisade, like the Telluride more, love the hybrid Highlander(driven them at work). Not a bad choice in those 3 though.
I own the 2023 Calligraphy. Do wish they had power folding mirrors.
I like the Palisade exterior but the KIA widescreen Interior.
I prefer the buttons for gear shifting in the Palisade vs a traditional gear in the KIA.
I like the slightly angled rear of the KIA. The Palisade has a boxy look at the back.
That's about it.
Totally agree that the highest model should have a black trim
I think a Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander video would be cool
The Pilot would be more in line to compare to the Highlander
@@naveenthemachine destroy it at what? Higher price?
I’m not sure why, but his couple reminds me of that SNL “Morning Latte” skit with Will Ferrell and Cheryl Oteri.
The third row button is a one-touch operation.
You don't have to hold it like in the video.
Was all on board for one of the two, then the 2023 pricing came out. Both companies have realized how both vehicles are in demand so they have over priced them. Now they’re out of my budget range.
Would the Acura MDX type s ultra be a worthy upgrade from this.
Yes! The more sports-like driving dynamics alone would be an upgrade.
Hi Andrea, no wonder Zack looked a bit scared, 3.8 L capacity under the hood is nothing to be sniffed at. Well appointed car specification and seems to do the job it's intended for. A massive car, and the engine moves the bulk around quite well.
Fantastic power!
Yeah, no wireless AA/Carplay? What's up with that? I heard there were some arguments with vendors/manufacturers on this - and customers are paying for that battle. I have a much more expensive Genesis GV70 - and it also does not have wireless AA - but I do have a Motorola MA1 to take care of that...but I shouldn't have to.
The question, why doesn't up Canada, have different trims as in the United States
Why is wireless charging a premium feature when it costs $5 for the parts
I haven't driven the Palisade or the Telluride...I had a Atlas for two weeks and went on a road trip with that. The suspension on the Atlas was poor over small ruts and slightly rough road. Very good on smooth pavement.
Is your rear suspension torsion beam on your atlas?
@@alvinsimba734 I had a rental...I was surprised tho. It made me think about what the Audi Q7 would be like. I never looked into the set up of the suspension. Only thing I didn't like about it.
@@nealjohnson5059 I see, the only reason I asked about that was because I had a vehicle that was torsion beam suspension and the advantage of it is that it's cheap if built right, however the ride quality around bumps roads it's noisy and when windy on the highway you can feel it more side to side. With a multi link rear suspension " you are planted on the ground" and the ride quality is immense and also softer.
Any one looking for this vehicle? How long is the waitlist in Canada? Atlantic provinces to be clear.
Think I can get by without a power operated 3rd row.
This is from Consumer Reports magazine: "The Palisade is a very practical, competitive, and appealing vehicle. However, compared to the Telluride, it has a less plush ride." It seems they are saying the exact opposite of your experience that the Palisade had the better ride. For some reason I am more inclined to believe YOUR take. Do you still stand by your opinion that the Palisade has the better ride? I am leaning towards this over the Telluride so your opinion matters to me.
Is it possible for you to give us a review on the old school out dated engine?
I think wireles CarPlay is exaggerated. Wired one is more reliable for me. And Driving comfort is more important for me (better seats and suspension in Pallisade) than folding side mirrors or physical gear shifter. Hence Pallisade for me over Telluride.
I had a Lyft ride today in a Palisade, i was quite impressed with the interior space. What about the safety features like Forward Collision Assistance/Cross Traffic, is is standard on all Palissades?
How is the towing in the calligraphy trim of this ?
Hear me out… my phone never charges on my wireless charging pad in the car, it moves to much. Wireless CarPlay also drains my phones battery, so I don’t mind plugging in. Usually it’s more reliable and charges my phone better.
This. I don't understand why people want wireless. It's going to drain your phone so fast and you won't even realize until you get to your destination.
@@clearcut6818 because humans are stupid beings....some phones are too big for that wireless charging pad.
Amazing review as always! Thanks Andrea and Zach! I think I'm sticking with the 23 Telluride but do wish the driver's seat was comfier with the massage option. I also love the fact that the Palisade is softer in it's suspension but Telluride just looks so much better. For the looks alone, I'll have to forego that additional drivers comfort and soft suspension.
For me it's Palisade in the exterior looks department all day long. However the massage seats are not your roller massagers. It just inflates and deflates part of the seat, which just feels like a cushion raising against your back as opposed to rollers that are found in massage chairs.
Please do a video of a Honda engineer driving the Calligraphy. Maybe ask them if there proud of the new Pilot with its 9" screen.
They’re*
How is it an 8 passenger vehicle? I thought it was only 7. Did I miss something?
I’d take the Telluride i actually like that X-Pro trim specially in the new midnight lake blue
Can you compare the recent GV80 to the recent Q7?
We wanted the SEL w/the premium package as it adds so many options and we don't have to live with that chrome grill. However, since none of the models have wireless CarPlay, we may have to look at something like the Pilot instead. It's a shame since there are so many cool options on the Palisade!
You can easily add an aftermarket dongle for wireless carplay/Aauto for 200 bucks...
FYI used the power folding seats a lot and has been very nice 👍 in 2020 limited
When you came to stop sign the car took a nose dive which is a sure tell of soft suspension. I would buy the lower trim but it doesn't come with heated steering wheel.
KIA is price-gouging on the Telluride
Great review, as an owner of a 2020 Ultimate, the new changes look great
the top trim in Canada I thought you said was upward of 60,000... isn't that creeping up to the luxury category 🤔
2023 Subaru ascent for us. We tried both Palisade and telluride but decided on the Ascent. Reliable and affordable.
I’ve had a 2023 palisade calligraphy in Canada for a couple months now. Special notes that I found after the fact- in Canada there are no heated seats in the 3rd row. Also there is no digital key in Canada, after speaking to bluelink Canada there is currently no plan on them introducing the digital key either.
Yeah, I don't understand why that isn't available for any of their vehicles in Canada? I can't get it on my Genesis either!
Another annoying in “America but not Canada” is bluelink in car wifi. It’s brand new to the 2023 palisade.. but not in Canada!
I just bought a 2023 Calligraphy and I have 3rd row heated seats 🤷🏻♀️
i have the car and 660 km per tank is a stretch
Same with my 2019 Rav4 hybrids rated for newly 1000km/tank... Ya right I get 650km/tank at best!
I have a 22 Tucson hybrid. I was getting around 700km per tank!
It looks good…….but center console looks very wide. I don’t understand why many do that. It makes it feel like it’s a smaller vehicle…….not leg wiggle room. 😊
Beautiful car drive review
That is the worst grill I have ever seen. That aside, I wish you could speak to the expected reliability of these models. I shy away from Kia and Hyundai because of their past reliability performance. They seem to drive well and are cheaper than competitors, but long-term you get what you pay for.
The way Andrea said: "SIZE MATTERS!" made me quiver a little bit. 😁
She's crazy in bed.
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Palisade has the best interior and comfort while Telluride has the looks and little more cargo space behind third row.
Neither when they charge 12k over MSRP
I wish I could watch a Canadian car channel that uses the metric system or at least show on screen
I like the Palisade a lot, but the wheels on the Calligraphy are horrible. Hyundai should make a couple of wheel options on that trim level instead of wrongly assuming that everyone who wants a Calligraphy wants a Euro multispoke wheel.
To me, the wireless thing is not a big deal given most people are often hooked to chargers anyway.
I wish that the reviewers would quit crying about the lack of wireless Apple car play and Android. The Hyundai has a lot more equipment than it’s competitors for the money. Have you never experienced signal drop out over wireless. Is it that hard to plug a phone in. I love my 2022 Calligraphy. It is comfortable, rides nice and gets decent mileage for its size.
Wish we got this in the UK
Good luck with rock chips on that plastic chrome grill. The only recourse is replacement or covering with ppf - what a pain. And a push button shifter - the answer to the question that was never asked. I would take a Mazda CX 9 for the drive, torque and appearance, every, single, time. The Mazda CX 90 will be an even more interesting option and likely, again, a much better handling vehicle, never mind a luxury, straight six cylinder.
I actually prefer wired Android Auto, better connection and it charges the phone better in my cell phone case.
Old schools engin 15w30. Known for carbon build up. Change oil every 5000 miles.
Lots of driving noise in cabin bc a long area underneath the car is not insulated.
The exhaust pipes don't have a good weld. 😕 There's two places where Huundai installed mesh. That means it will leak down the road. Design mess up.
Interior is cool. Ride is OK. Noisy.
Tires are soft, cheap and not rugged enough.
The wireless phone projection situation is becoming as ridiculous as when Toyota insisted on their Entune system.
Great review, been comparing the Telluride and Pallisade. As for no wireless Android auto, there is an easy solution.....they sell adapters you can plug in then you can use wireless with your phone. Works great and east. Not having it is not a big deal.
Uses Bluetooth on your phone with the adapter and it is not very reliable. A lot of hit and misses with the adapter, plus why pay additional for an option that should be standard? SMH
That new grill looks like Thor's armor.
Interesting comment on the seat comfort vs the Telluride-I have not seen similar comments in other reviews. I do not know how to square your review with others like Edmunds, for example. Telluride-"Plush ride and well-shaped seats offer all-day comfort._Palisade-"Comfortable seating and ride quality."
This was the all-new 2023 Telluride, those reviews might be from 2022.
@@Motormouth... Well, they supposedly are on the 2023 Telluride and the 2023 Palisade.. Thanks for the reply.
The Telluride seats are definitely firmer, I am surprised to hear that other reviewers think they are equally as comfortable as the Palisade. The Telluride seats are similar to the Kia Sorento which are also firm.
@@andreaspencer9813 Interesting. Thanks for the comment. If I am not mistaken, you guys tested the top trim levels in each (SXP and Calligraphy). Seat comfort being very important to me, I test drove several Telly trim levels and, not surprisingly, found the Telluride SXP Nappa leather seats more comfortable than the lower trim levels. I wasn't interested in the Palisade because of the lack of power folding mirrors so did not drive them. So I ordered a 2023 Telluride SXP. Hope I made the right decision-you guys have me a bit concerned. I guess I can add a butt cushion if I need it! 😁
I test drove the Telluride, the seats and ride are firmer which gave the impression of handling a bit sturdier. I do prefer the softer ride of the Palisade, which drives similarly to the Hyundai Santa Fe.
I’m getting 31 mpg on the highway. Drives all day.
Ugh, that front end design is embarrassing
I like this vehicle’s interior with lots of features but exterior is ok. I don’t like the front design. It’s seems like a wall. I am surprise they using V6 not 4. And too pricey for me. Great video Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
You are right, it's a great SUV but 3-row options are becoming more expensive. It's nice to see the Palisade come with so many features, you do feel like you are getting a lot for your money.
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@@andreaspencer9813 hello Andrea this vehicle needs a DIESEL engine to improve the fuel economy. It is sold with 2.2 CRDi turbo diesel with 204 HP but 440 Nm of torque from 1750 rpm to 2750 rpm. And you need the torque to move this mass. the fuel consumption is 7.3 L/100 km in a combined driving.
Extremely hard choice between these 2 beauties!! Telluride or Palisade.
“Big old v6” oh, how times have changed
Chiclets ...LOL
Mazda doesn’t have wireless car play either so
Stealership will add $10,000 for market adjustment on these pulse another $5,000 for trash add on’s and fees. No thanks it’s just an suv
Agree about the wireless car play (Apple and Android). Cannot believe they do not offer wireless with the better trims. Mind boggling and turns me away from buying this vehicle.
Their two things to improve I agree 100%. So close to being a really great vehicle!
Last, like the dash infotainment center on the Telluride better. Seems more modern and streamlined.
I am not buying any 2023 models with these interest rates
No hybrid, I am out.
I'll take a Pilot.
Lot of availability right now. All Hyundais and Kias are sitting on the lot.
Oh really.. where in usa or Canada?
Are they selling at msrp now without markup?
@Nischint - let me know please
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YES, a lot of money, dealers sell every single one off the delivery truck...
hyundai is very nice car
Definitely the Telluride, despite B.C's iffy Kia dealer network of sales and service. I still can't get past those "push button" gear levers. Hyundai already the most user-friendly one, of the crops of horrible ones. Honda/Acura and Lincoln are absolutely terrible.
Dealer in Edmonton told me they are no longer taking orders for 2023model😂
Yup, I've heard that too (also in Edmonton). So - great vehicles, but you can't actually get one. If you see one in stock, they add $10-15K in market adjustments...very crooked dealerships!
Good Overall Car but the taillights good have been better tho
What the heck was that thing doing the leaves at 16:57? 😂
Robot street sweeper
@@clearcut6818 looks bad-arse. We don’t have anything like that in Australia
Its a great car but its really no difference than the last model at least at the Calligraphy level.
Wired apple carplay and android auto produce better sound quality than wireless