Any Church that is trying to get a pastor to sign a NDA and a Non-compete does not have the spreading of the gospel in mind. But the spreading of their church name. Shame.
@@mac4039 Christ built His Kingdom FOR US, we cant get footloose with our wordsjust becayse we said God. The Kingdom us not made by mans hands my friend.
He is the only Hillsong Pastor who has called for accountability. This takes great courage. He stood to lose everything and did it because it was the right thing to do.
Knowing he was the the only calling for accountability, that may be why God put him there: to call out Hillsong when the scandal happened. Also, this trail has clearly forced him to consider what should a church look like with astounding clarity and determination. My take away: Just because things go wrong, doesn't mean God hasn't called you to it; maybe He called you to clean it up.
Is that the same Religious leader? He so conformed to the HS image, it's funny and sad at the same time! I wonder what his post HS look will look like... maybe a Buddhist influenced look...lol!
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
The more the truth comes out about Brian Houston and the Hillsong empire/cult, the more boxes for Narcissism and sociopathy are ticked by him. HG Tudor says that one of the Narcissist's Prime Aims is character trait acquisition for the construction and maintenance of the facade. Many Narcissists are drawn to churches because there is a huge volume of vulnerable victims to exploit. They are drawn to positions of power and control (which they're addicted to), and they can hide under the guise of Christianity, being wolves in shepherd's clothing. They're also whitened sepulchres full of dead men's bones. Narcissists are opportunistic parasites, and commodify others for their own consumption. Lacking empathy, driven by entitlement, they "make merchandise of people", enriching themselves at the expense of others. We're surrounded by sociopaths and deceivers. I'm glad that Jesus knew it all along and warned us beforehand. It's validating to be able to see the gaslighting of the evil one's puppets for what it is.
I 100% believe God told him to become a Hillsong church for the very reason we see. That we are shown what being a leader of a church is about. About stepping away from evil when you see it. About being a light of truth for the world to see about making people think about actions and being accountable. 100% heard from God who worked it according to His purpose
So, are you suggesting that this God, if he is exists, told this pastor to join hillsong, even if this god was aware of all that hillsong was doing If so, why would you worship that god?
Exactly, the reason he joined Hellsong was because they funded his church just like ARC does their churches as long as you follow their rules of teaching & preaching their curriculum
I get what you are saying and you are right: be very suspicious of anyone saying, "God told me." It's usually their own thoughts. However, in this case, God is using this pastor to expose Hillsong and stand for what is right and for that, I applaud him. Maybe that's why God put him in the situation.
Hillsong didn't become exposed because of any Pastor. It was exposed by Journalists. Pastor Christ reacted to the crisis. He didnt't act, before it was revealed. Not to blame him, but he didn't start it.
I fully believe in pastor Crist. I'm proud that he stood up to the mega church ... He's a very good man. I know him personally, he's been my pastor for over 10 years. Our church was appalled at the actions of the global church. Just because God spoke to him to join the church many years ago doesn't mean that this wasn't supposed to happen. God also teaches us lessons and our lives have seasons of change. Our church will grow from this and heal. I'm personally grateful that we are back to being city of grace. It was so much better when the Crists had full control. Not every person associated with Hillsong are bad people. Yet, I absolutely believe that something very dark and sinister was at play here. I also believe that Hillsong Phoenix and all 6 affiliate locations did the right thing. Terry Christ stood up and is holding those accountable.
see that is where everything went wrong is because he says God spoke to him, show me a new test verse where it gets said God speaks to the human being after Jesus died on the cross and Jesus resurrection,, there's no such verse,we are led by and through the Holy Spirit,,as soon as a person says God spoke to them red lights flicker in my head,
It's people like you, especially people like you in those toilets called mega churches that mock the United States Constitution and separation of church and state originally intended by the Framers. Those whore beasts George Bush and Rumsfeld had copies of the Book of Revelation on their desks when first Invading Iraq. Shame on you, shame on your church and let it be known that there are many of us dedicated to making sure the Constitution stays the same. Belive all the silly constructed propaganda you like but you and your delusional friends, especially those waving Jesus flags at the Capitol insurrection have done nothing but a disgusting disservice to the rest of us. Have a blessed day.
Just do not build your gospel on lying bibles. The bible has been changed. Did God say? Come on, really? God said He preserved His word. Psalm 12:6-7. Most modern bibles do not. In other words they are not admitting that God has a standard, His inspired word. His word is quick (alive) and quickens (gives life). His word is eternal. Most of the modern bibles have at least one out and out lie. NKJB lies in Exodus 6:3. They began to call on the name of the Lord in Genesis 4:26. Others quote Jesus telling his brothers, i am not going to the feast. John 7:8. (Is he saying he is going to break the law of Moses?) He waits and then goes. Liar! BLASPHEMY . Jesus simply said, not going now, not yet. He waits and then goes. No problem, no lie. And blatantly they mock Jesus and unashamedly, constantly, with each change ask, Did God say? Did God say Mark 11:26? Absolutely. It is an essential part of our walk with God. A verse that makes us tremble was added????? Did God say? Acts 15:34? It shows God's divine providence. Silas was there when Paul needed him for a journey. Obviously Silas remained there. BRAZENLY, they change or remove a word that gives the believers true power! Matthew 12:31 and Mark 9:29! Some spiritual warfare needs prayer and fasting! Did God say eleven (11) times in the New Testament the word damnation, eternal burning? Yes. But not in theirs! Did God say? Did God give three witnesses to that truth? Mark 9:44, 46, 48. They however only have v48. The other two they ask, Did God say? This is important because we need to know the truth and those who preach Annialism, we cease to exist, are easily proven wrong with these verses. Jesus is God and Jesus is Man. Hebrews supports this with four verses, 3:3, 7:24, 8:3 and 10:12: "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sin for ever, sat down at rhe right hand of God; v10:12. They do not use the clarifying words 'this man' at all. Again, Did God say? Every change they make is an insult to God and His word. God said He would curse those who add to or take from His word. Revelation 22:18-19. In the Old Testament those who honored a false prophet received the reward of that prophet. So the Alexandrian translators, the bible societies the publishers, the promoters, sellers and those who teach from them (showing those ear tickling bibles as God's word) or honor them will be held responsible. If done ignorantly, repent. God will not be mocked. This happened when the inspired Antioch manuscripts called the Textus Receptus were replaced by the Alexandrian manuscripts called the Codex B or the Vaticanus from the Vatican basement, and the Sianiticus from a monestary. They do not agree with each other and the latter has about 30 changes per page. Obviously inspired by their spiritual father who brings conflict, frustration, despair and DOUBT. King James Bible online Helpful tool: Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online: Look up: REPENT, REGENERATION, BELIEVE, FAITH, REDEMPTION, PERFECT, CONVERSATION, PREVENT, PROPITIATION etc. Suppliers: Churchkjb.com Localchurchbiblepublishers.com Sources: Adullum Films Documentary -Tares Among the Wheat video Books: The Revision Revised and The Last Twelve Verses of Mark, both by William Burgon. Dean Burgon lived during the time of Wescott and Hort. Book: Look What's Missing by David Daniels Chick.com. If interested an old video called The Forbidden Book video. It has some American History also.
What you mean you believe in him. The only person that you suppose to fully believe in is Jesus. All you do not learn. And if God told him to join hillsong no this would not have happened God doesn't make mistakes. Hillsong is not a church there is nothing Christian about hillsong. Open all you eyes and keep your eyes on the word not on man
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
I used to be apart of hillsong Phoenix 2017-2020. Thank god I got out of that church. Though I will say terry was different from other hillsong pastors. He would actually meet his congregation, not bail off stage hiding behind security after the service like the rest do. Though I still have a problem with how every message was a feel good and not the topic of sin.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Amen 🙏 2009-2022 here! It's always been City Of Grace for me though. People say Ps Terry transformed himself to fit in at Hillsong. No he did not. LoL he's always been hip and vibrant. Now that he's grown his beard out they see him different, is that it? Beards are trendy.
Spent 22 years at this church when it was called, Word of Grace. It was where I learned, served and healed. I left when “pastors” Terry and Judith came on board. They have a low view on the authority of scripture and must have bypassed 1 Timothy 2:12 which is clear regarding women teaching. That, and so much in the seeker sensitive, watered down gospel movement. I’m so thankful to be a part of a church that holds Jesus high and the authority of scripture as truth.
This is so wrongly misinterpreted or misunderstood. He speaks of God calling him to open a church in Phoenix done through Hillsong at the time. Just bc Hillsong did wrong doesn’t mean God didn’t want a church planted. For example, it was God’s plan to call the nation of Israel in the Old Testament but time & time again they sinned in which He had to carry out punishment (Ex. Exile to Babylon). God can call people or churches but they may break away due to sin and in time He holds everyone accountable. The important part is what actions did this pastor take upon seeing the inappropriate approach of Hillsong pastor and leadership? They fired the head pastor but he wanted to see leadership do more internal investigations along with disclosing info to pastors so they make sure history doesn’t repeat. Instead, they were requiring NDEs and non competes to conceal info. In ministry, God calls pastors and no one can hold back a calling. You don’t require a pastor to sign a non compete or furthermore an NDA. This is insane, a very corporate mindset and obviously there’s something wrong they don’t want to correct. The pastor did right by telling them they’re wrong and to break from the church. He didn’t have to do so. He did right to depart from Hillsong upon the inappropriate actions of Hillsong leadership. Not wanting to disclose info or requiring NDEs/Non Competes to have that info is fishy and he did right to tell them they’re wrong. The church in Phoenix moves on.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
It reminds me of when Jesus picked the 12th disciple Judas. It didn’t work out in the end with Judas. So for those being critical could say Jesus made a mistake by picking him as a disciple.
@@brittanyleigh1759 I agree! Is it possible that God is using him to call out corruption and set paths straight, perhaps giving Hillside another chance. The voice of a prophet is a call to repentance.
I went to City of Grace (WOG) way before the Crists took over, but I left when they joined Hillsong because it felt icky right away. The "brand" took away almost everything that made it a community church, especially the way they handled the youth ministry. Frankly, these spiritual abuses are rampant in the megachurch complex, and even as much as we DO know, it only scratches the surface. The Church is not and should never behave like a corporation or a business, it's completely antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.
Me too. Left 12 years ago and hung in there for a year or so. I’m so happy to be in a church that believes in the authority of scripture and has men on the pulpit.
I personally feel we should never say "God spoke to me" lightly. Weeks ago one pastor told me how one pastor he is closed to (n still is) where yrs also this pastor told his church to bid for a location for $XXX Million as he felt God spoke to him on that amount to bid. Yes they successfully won the bid for that location but they actually over bidded about $6M! The highest bid was much much lower. So this had me thinking, did God actually spoken to him or its just his own voice. Mind you, he is a good pastor but it had me to be careful about using God's name in vain. These days I never go around telling people I think God spoke to me to do this or that...I dont want to make that kind of mistakes. I dont know about that pastor, whether its a mistake or not. But I dont buy the "God spoke to me" easily these days.
He did hear from God, and was in the right place at the right time. You can only influence the situation if you are inside. God can ask us to do difficult things, Phoenix church has been very brave and their example will help other churches. Only God knows the future.
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What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
@@sbaker4920 A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
My wife and I were part of and were married at Hillsong Phoenix when it was still City of Grace. Pastor Terry Crist is NOT of the Hillsong pastors who glorifies himself and not God, is reckless with the church and those that serve the church. He made the right decision leaving the Hillsong "brand".
It is not a time-proven wisdom to invalidate a person's claim of having heard from God just because things had gone wrong along the way. There is such a thing as 'seasons' where for a season God puts us in a place/situation/church where we know that we know that we know that we heard from God that we need to be in that specific place/situation/church. And just because it was not a forever thing, does not necessarily mean that we did not hear from God in the first place. You are giving a bad advice. But thank you for showing us the latest video of Terry, a sincere, humble servant-leader.
Towards the end he spoke about secular organizations having more accountability than churches. Well, the church should have NEVER gotten to a place that it is run like a business. Surprised hillsong Australia hasn’t sank into a hole in the center of the earth by now. God is gracious and merciful.
@@subatomic10 easy….DONT HAVE CHURCHES WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Lol I’m sure it was probably never designed to be such. The first churches were meeting in homes. Maybe we need to go back to that.
@@kennethfraire8152 yeah you have a point. Jesus model of doing church is mobile, he didn’t have any head quarters, he was always on the move. Moreover, the church in the New Testament was also mobile-constantly on the move. We are called to be an offensive church that even the gates of hell could not prevail
It’s interesting how everyone has an opinion; about this man about Brian Houston about Hillsong Phoenix about the pastors pants??…..I wonder how many took a few moments stopped vomiting opinions and prayed for all people involved. Victims, pastors churches. These are brothers and sisters in Christ! Come on we gotta do better, Pray 🙏🏽
Praying is in progress but also correction needs to be done and more accountability, which for now Hillsong has not shown. One person down and plenty that knew, and covered it up for years. That’s not a good workplace practice.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Danny, thank you. Prayer is the only answer. Pray for everyone involved. Everyone can point a finger, but how many of you prayed for those involved? The devil is happy. He has destroyed another Church and leaders. I pray that they have repented and are on the road to getting right with God first. Let God lead and guide them. I pray that they get their lives together and follow God's leading. Stop trying to find out when he knew and how he knew. We are headed for a great awakening. Get ready!
@@jtaylor6275 What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
"If you let everybody know what the offerings are, to the last dollar, and if you let everybody know how the money is spent, to the last dollar, I will cause such crowds of people to come to this place that you won't be able to handle them." This is a Word I received for a Melbourne Church with a congregation of about 2,000 almost three years ago. They were just breaking even financially, they weren't really growing; and their pastors' salaries were not public, let alone their assets.
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What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
It's such a shame that people follow Pastors, names instead of God. Instead of Jesus. Isn't that what happened to churches before and Paul talked about it? The Gospel of Jesus is all about Mercy, forgiveness, love. But Christians the moment you make a mistake they judge you sooo harshly and abandon you God said Justice and Vengeance belongs to Him. And Jesus said let he who has no sin cast the first stone. Despite the wrongs Hillsong church under its leadership has done sooo much for so many people. But ofcourse all that has been forgotten. All in all and in every situation God is God. And God shall prevail.
Hillsong was like the Tower of Babel. It was doomed to fail bcos God wasn't in it. Christians should build a church on the foundation of Jesus Christ. Our manual should be the Bible.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
The Lord God knew what would happen with Hillsong when Terry joined. God is not obliged to reveal that to Terry. This is all a part of God’s greater Plan. He’ll work it out.
can U please show me a verse in New Test where it states God speaks to man,,i then thought we are led by and through the Holy Spirit, i cant find one verse where Jesus or apostles say we are led by God in New Test, i only find verses saying we are led by and through the Joly Spirit,as soon as someone stands up and says "God spoke directly to me" red lights start flickering in my head ,,Jesus said 'I will send the Holy Spirit tp guide you" not God speaking directly to man
God only speaks through the Bible (His Word), not to people individually on where and what to do. Otherwise, the voices in your head become just as authoritive as the Bible.
Mmm, all over the Bible God speaks thru dreams, thru throwing of dice, thru non believers, thru ...well actually it seems God can speak anyway he wants.
Voices are not in our heads and conciseness and thoughts... Many researchers and scientists agree they cannot be sure all thoughts originate in the body mind or brain. Pretty sure when the holy spirit indwells he actually does something... Doesn't just become mouldy inside us till he gets a job when we die.
Hi Glenn. I agree that God does predominantly reveal His will for our lives through the scripture. And the more we read and ask for His Spirit to impress the truth upon our hearts the more that happens. But there have been a very few instances in my life where I "heard" - definitively - the voice of God. And it was backed up or confirmed by real events. Very few times and all were for serious reasons. After that happens it is impossible to doubt or ignore His voice.
Yes He does. God is speaking continually. If we can’t hear Him, our ears are dull of hearing or we’re turned to the wrong thing. Yes He speaks through His word, but He also speaks through His Holy Spirit.
And his Word endures forever. God uses man as instruments to preach the Word, unfortunately man fail and need to be replaced. So hold on to the Word rather than the instrument.
You raised a very good question. If God can forsee the future, why did he intend the Pastor and his church to lead them into Hillsong? No critic to Pastor Christ and his team, for taking responsibility and leaving Hillsong for justified reasons.
When the grass looks green, "I'm fully convinced God is calling me in." When the grass is no longer green, "I'm fully convinced God is calling me out." Ha. 🤣🤭🤫
God often leads people through trials and tribulations. He never promises that it will be easy only that you must seek him for answers. Terry Crist has each week updated is on everything. The good, bad and ugly. He is very transparent and he has openly tried to hold Hillsong accountable. The second he did that he was threatened with our church. They refuse to acknowledge anything (Hillsong) and keep sweeping things under the rug. It took great courage for Pastor to stand up to Hillsong. We worry what hillsongs retribution will be for him speaking out but he had to. It was the right thing to do to let us all know about the NDA and trying to force the Crists to sign over their church (which FYI we've had this church for decades ... It was never hillsongs). Please don't judge one man on the actions of others.
as i always ask--show me a new test verse saying God directly speaks to us ,, I only find verses stating we are led through and by the Holy Spirit, as soon as someone stands up and says "God spoke directly to me " red lights starts flickering in my head, Jesus said just before His ascension into heaven" I will send u the Holy Spirit to keep u and guide U " not God speaking directly to humans
@@Palmstreet-u7x dude... Many believe the Holy spirit is God... The trinity. Not sure why you feel you want to police people's terminology or try to be God, deciding whether they might have been led by him or not.
Amen Terry. 🙌 May the Lord bless you and your wife for your transparency and not selling out! How the mighty have fallen and trying to protect themselves from scrutiny 🧐 The Lord will continue to reveal the wolves in sheep’s clothing. Such a blow to the Christian community 😭🙏
Terry Crist is a perfect example why I dont go to church anymore and why I Hate hypocritical pathetic pastors.. just another fine example you never heard from God in the first place - just another piece of shit!
The only possibility is that God was teaching him how bad this group was. I used to be a member of Fellowship Church in the DFW area (Ed Young Jr.) I strongly believed God was calling me there. But they ran me out. Did I hear wrongly? Or did God want to show me how churches in the Last Days would become? And also, to find a woman who would go through sheer hell but now lives with me, due to her poor health she would be homeless otherwise.
I don't think you heard it wrong. You were needed there for some reason. God called Jeremiah to speak to a people who wouldn't listen. That didn't mean Jeremiah was in the wrong place or not doing God's will. Stay close to the Lord and thank you for being an honest Christian.
Can u please give me a New Test verse showing me God speaks directly to man after Jesus ascended into heaven, i dont find one verse saying God speaks to us directly, Maybe there is where the problem lies,,, i then thought Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to keep us and guide us,, as soon as a person tells me GOD spoke directly to me red light starts flickering in my head,, im led by and threw the Holy Spirit,
I enjoyed Pastor Crist’s teachings. He and his wife seem like true people of God. I hope they start dressing their age though. I don’t understand the need for all these pastors to dress hip and cool.
this is what happens when music becomes the main focus of the church service and God and Jesus Christ is left out of the services, the main focus must be on the Holy Spirit during thr service
Well....we have all "heard from God". Every time I read a word out of the Bible, that is a "word from God". It's application in my life or someone else's life is distinctive to the situation.
I applaud Pastor Crist, when a man of God has an intimate relationship with God his actions will clearly show that. He is standing up to what and for what he was called to serve as a servant of God.
Wow, seems IHOPKC could take note. I left this system 18 years ago, it's not built on Christ. I've been praying for over 20 years for God to topple these Empires of Man. Where is the fear of God.
God is not pleased when the church has become a market place over caring for the people within. Praise God for those who had the courage to up turn the tables as Jesus did!
Is it the hair? The Peter Pan leggings? The Billy Goat beard? No, it's the shoes! What a get up! What room is the Amway meeting in tonight? Such fools, such fools.
When you run a church like a business, this is what happens. A group of elders should be leading this church and not a board of directors. I pray that Terry repents and returns to how God wants his church to be run.
You don't seem to understand the video. This pastor is rejecting a corporate running of the church. The Phoenix church is returning to a congregational based model.
Hillsong had a long and well-documented history of abhorrent theology. They presented an unbiblical gospel and an unbiblical Jesus wrapped in great music. If the Phoenix leadership had been discerning, they would have rejected Hillsong's false teaching and never joined in the first place.
With the, on many accounts, horrific unBiblical theology behind the Hillsong churches, we could have seen this coming looooong time ago! And it seriously questions the 2016 decision to join Hillsong churches as 16th Hillsong church. Hillsong is theologically so bad, that God never asked anyone to join Hillsong in the first place.
That is not sound. Why did God tell David to play for Saul when Saul continually tried to kill him? Why did he tell Paul to go to Rome then in the middle of the trip, the ship was wrecked and they were stranded on Malta? You are in no place to judge why God choses to do something. We have to trust God in the good and bad times. Period.
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 hi. Do you think that God asks to join a specific organisation, when that same specific organisation teaches thing that are unBiblical? That doesn't make any sense. Will God ask you or me to join the Jehovah's Witnesses? Or the Mormons? No. Of course not. Because these organisation teach all kind of heresies. With Hillsong it's the same thing. Hillsong is also teaching very bad and unBiblical theology. And they have been teaching these things from the beginning of their existence.
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 hi Bridget. Good question. And I have difficulties where to start. For one thing, Hillsong almost never preaches about sin and repentance. And therefor their message about being saved is very much watered down. They invited (among others) T.J. Jakes and Bill Johnson to preach in their church(es). Jakes is a modalist (and therefor a rank heretic). Johnson is a Word of Faith preacher who teaches another Jesus and another gospel all together. That put Johnson and Jakes outside of true Christianity. But still, Hillsong let these people teach and preach in their churches. Hillsong preaches that it is always God's will that you are healed. And if you're not healed, it your own fault because you don't have enough faith. whereas the Bible teaches something entirely different. Preachers from Hillsong take Bible verses out of context and thus give it another meaning. In other words, they twist scripture to promote their own invented doctrines. They almost never properly exegete a Bible passage. They almost always apply a technique that is called "eisegesis". In other words, they read things into a text that isn't in the text at all. And in that way they change the original Biblical meaning. I listened to numerous sermons and teachings from Brian Houston. And he never properly explained any Bible verse or passage. He makes all Bible passages he preaches on, about you and me. Instead of about Jesus Christ. They teach that tithing is something a Christian must do. But in the New Covenant, tithing is done away with by Jesus fulfilling the law. And I could go on for a while. But I think you got the point. I put a link to a video below that will give you some insight in the bad preaching of Brian Houston. You can check it by yourself. ruclips.net/video/lrf81BCCiX8/видео.html
. he just said not be part of the corporate built a church for man he never mention Jesus he never mention repent how sad.21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
WOWWWWWWWW WOWWWWWWWW WOWWWWWWWW!!! Ohhhhhh MYYYYYYY GOSHHHHHHHHH!!!! What a powerful powerful powerful honouring TO YOUR GOD TO YOUR POSITION TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER CHURCH AND INCREDIBLE STRENGTH WUTH HUMILITY AND GRACE AND GLORY AND LOVE AND TRUTH BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL TRUTHS !!! You Pastor have no idea how important how transparent how merciful and kind and understanding and respectful beyond my words. You are exactly where THE LORD NEEDED YOU TO BE FOR THIS DELIVERY. Standing on your own steadfast conviction no matter the price I matter the cost. Just like JESUS CHRIST YOUR BEAUTIFUL SAVIOUR AND LORD. He is with you and your family. You will never lack for anything. You will be a vital significant part of THE END TIME CHURCH MORE THAN YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW. Your heart is broken but beautiful and BRAVE. A true SON OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. You had to speak for 1000s that have been brutally abused in the name of church. Brutally savagely destroyed as I was in the same kind of church with no accountability none. Covering up full on adultery in the top leaders. The top worship leader fell pregnant and they did not expose it for what it was but held every other person to strong controls strong manipulation strong law strong exploitation of people so very poor. Never stopped asking for their money. Every single opportunity they would preach on tithing and giving and using or misusing scriptures continually. People slowly found out and they just left because they was no apology and removing those involved from the church???? On and on this mess went. And I don’t even have words for this spiritual abuse in so many and they are able to exploit over and over again with absolutely no conscience??? How if you are meant to be truly born again. I am so very very grateful and more than my words to hear you deliver the biggest biggest most honest most prophetic statement I have ever heard. I applaud you and your wife and heaven is applauding you. BRAVE AND MORE BRAVE. Don’t ever doubt that you should not have done this. It’s more than clear to me as I listened to every single word!!!!! WOWWWWWW!!!!! That’s the very reason you were both sent there because none have dared to do it. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I disagree. God may have told them to move to Hillsong but the non-negotiables they put in the table before hand where wise and they acted according to it. That's something you have to have in mind 👍
@@thewrongshoes well, that’s a dicussion in itself. I’m suggesting that God may have told them to do so, but he gives opportunities to the people so they can course-correct their lives, repent, etc. The moment Terry saw things were not going well, he took, in my opinion, a wise decision (have in mind they were not Hillsong at first). The Bible is full of this kinds of stories. Think about this: what God told you isn’t necessarily linked to other people’s decisions and bad choises
It never ceases to amaze me that people who call themselves believers will condemn other believers who whole heartedly follow and obey God’s call in their lives. Not thinking that those same people will go through trials as well and then sit back and roast them for obeying claiming they never heard the call of Hod in the first place. You sit as unrighteousness judges with evil thoughts. You yourselves would never heed to the call in your own lives using what you think as intellect as your basis of faith. I’ve never seen this man in my life but if he lived his life by the principles he speaks of, he is a man of great integrity. You bit and devour your own brothers and sisters and wag your fingers not ever considering that there are innocent believers who will backslide into apostasy because of the actions of Hillsong leadership.
Ummm I hear from God everyday! He speaks to me . He speaks to His sheep! God surely does and can speak to His people when they seek Him and ask Him for His direction. Glad Pastor Crist stepped away . He did the right thing. Just because this happened doesn’t mean the pastor didnt hear form God. If he says he did then he did. When God calls and chooses us leads us to places, doesn’t mean everything is going to be easy, you will face challenges, things don’t go smoothly nor perfect nor may go the way we think. And He can surely change our direction when things like this arise, you seek Gods wisdom and making the wise decision ad Pastor Crist did.
This is a good example of how we as Christians need to be overly cautious about the language of "God spoke to me." It should always be shared with a caveat that "it seems to me that the Spirit is leading." It should also be open to hear (and not be defensive of) questions from other mature in the faith believers.
What a hopeless Church this is. Brian never quoted from the Bible in his sermons. He needs to go to Moore College to learn how to be a minister. My daughter has a friend in LA as she wasn’t happy with the teaching.
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Lol hey he's my pastor. He and Judith have an eclectic style but they are themselves and don't pretend to be anything else. I can speak from personal experience of this church for a decade. The Crists are great people. You don't see either Hillsong pastors stroking away and losing money to do so. (He definitely lost any money raise din tithes from the last). We had a full house on Easter Sunday.
@@Trolls-Be-like Shouldn’t judge him by his appearance, but still can’t take him seriously with those leggings! Looks like he’s trying way to hard to be cool.
It's really sobering to think that he said he was absolutely certain that God called him to pastor a Hillsong Church. It just goes to show that we shouldn't be guided through life by intuitive senses and feelings, but by Scripture, reason and counsel from those who have a well-earned reputation for being godly and wise. Scripture says that Hillsong isn't a church to join, because their popular, emotion-driven worship is trying to compensate for lousy, tacky prosperity teaching and shallow pep-rally preaching. It doesn't matter if there are 15,000 singing every Sunday. Disobedience in doctrine makes a church a fallen church; And the Scripture says that obedience is better than sacrifice (1 Samuel 15:22 - and sacrifice meant "worship" in the Old Testament). To obey is better than worship. It's the sum of the entire Hillsong era. By consulting Scripture, rather than feelings, he would've found the answer to the "opportunity" to become a Hillsong pastor. He couldn't have been more certain, and yet, more wrong. By betting it all on that feeling, he showed that 1. He's guided by feelings. And 2. Those feelings are a broken compass. Doesn't sound like someone who should be attempting to lead people into eternity.
It is possible God did, in fact, speak loudly to Pastor Crist to join Hillsong in 2016. Just because the scandals with Hillsong happened doesn’t mean it wasn’t in God’s plan to make this a trial for everyone involved. This was a HUGE test for Pastor Crist and everyone involved to make the right choice once these scandals occurred. It shows a lot that he was willing to basically separate from a church that isn’t clearly reflecting the gospel. Luckily he protected himself in 2016 with his stipulations, and I believe that was God’s doing as well. When God tells you to do something, YOU DO IT. even if it doesn’t make sense, even if it ends up making you leave reputation fall down, even if it makes you lose money, even if it “wasted your time.” God’s plan all along was to see how City of Grace would react to everything, including all the other partnered churches under Hillsong. It seems that all pastor Crist wants is the truth, accountability, and a church that acts and reflects God’s true nature. I’m proud that City of Grace has God as the priority and not their affiliation to a franchise. But just as importantly, I think that everyone should pray for those who sinned under their involvement with Hillsong. Those who did wrong doing should not be kicked to the curve from ever being loved again, but encouraged to repent and use their testimony to help the weak suffering through similar situations. In other words, pray for Hillsong to be closer to God in the midst of all the shady stuff going on, but also, Proud of you City of Grace! I’ll miss the church being part of Hillsong but I overall agree this was the best choice right now.
There only Professionally contemporary pastors. In a system of hirachy . Big men , centre of attention. Reality is there baby Christians. / Nothing like the true pattern, of the first century Christians. Glad I followed Christ Jesus only.🙏👍🎶🙂
"I feel stronger about this than anything that God has ever said to me" - Yeah it's great that he finally stood up to Hillsong, but either God leads his people to make bad decisions, or this man doesn't know what discernment is - Either way it's not a good look.
Gods direction is just that, direction. It changes over time. I was told to go to Tulsa. After 7 years, I was told to move again. God doesn’t tell us everything. It could be that he was and is being used by God to expose.
@@RealJamieWorley Again, Im sorry if I'm coming across too harsh - but your examples are flawed 1) Jesus came to Earth knowing exactly what was going to happen and what he needed to do. He knew he would be crucified for our sins - Didnt take him by surprise. 2) God lead the disciples into turmoil sure, but they knew exactly what they were getting into - They knew the state of the world and it was common place at the time to be killed for your faith, especially faith in Jesus - They knew and were prepared. I think an example closer to what you are talking about would be Job - He got blindsided and the Lord allowed it, However Job never said "God told me my family and I would never be touched" - Only to then get hit hard You know FULL well that when this man said the Lord told him to join up with Hillsong, he couldnt see nor hear clearly - Im not knocking him for it, Im just saying dont blame God and admit he made a flesh decision.
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 Your response is exactly what's wrong with the church today. Always making excuses for bad decisions, especially when it has been claimed that "God told you" - We put too much faith in the pastors rather than God - We dont want to admit that we made the wrong move and didnt actually hear from God, so we make up excuses as to why God would lead us down the wrong path - Im convinced now that there aren't many churches that truly know God or respect him.
@@karagoddess3328 you cannot determine what someone did or didn’t hear from God. That is between them and God. Our trust is in God, not in man. We follow God but He uses shepherds to guide us.
Sure do and Brian's trial is in November this year 2022..Brian admitted he failed to call the police about his pedophile Father and Brian perjured himself at the Royal commission into child sex abuse saying "once I sacked my father he never ever preached again", well there's visual evidence his father did preach in 2002..Lying under oath is a crime..Brian is looking at 5_7 years jail..
Nice that you shared this message - would not have seen it otherwise. Shame you have to put your own commandments in it. Putting rules on God that he can’t speak to people and that they can’t share that God has spoken to them.
Im from Sydney Australia. I have always felt something is not right with Brian's spirit a spirit of pride. Pride comes before a fall. I'm a nobody yet discerned something was wrong. What is more worrying is the pastors around the world got caught up in a spirit of pride and there discernment teams and prophets did not sence this. Maybe it's time for these pastors to spend more time in prayer and fasting away from their churches as when you're on the outside you can see what is going on in the inside of your church. God bless you all.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Very emotional --- but do you take any responsibility for your 'prophetic convictions" bringing this mess about in the first place? What happened to the independent life of each local church? "Let us build us a tower... and make us a Name"... seem to have heard that somewhere before.
His change in appearance from the time he first announced to join Hillsong. Scary because it looks like he lost his true self along the way being under Hillsong. God bless him for taking a stand and may he recover fully from the madness and find renewed faith and strength in the Lord to lead his church in truth under Christ's headship.
Oh and church should be a place of healing, safety, God first, teaching and worship. If I could find a church that is not set up like a business, I’d go back.
He built the church through hillsong, hired there stylist, he went from looking like a 1970s car salesman to looking like NEO in the matrix, and realized that there franchise agreement probably has some clause allowing termination. No more monthly check back to the corporate store. He is stoked, he is jumping for joy inside..
I have no sympathy for either Hillsong or its leadership. You'd think "men(or women)of God" would have a conscience, self-discipline and a real concern about their flocks and what kind of image they are presenting to outsiders. Apparently not. I wonder if they realize how many people including their own congregants will walk away from anything to do with Christianity completely disillusioned. It wasn't because of Hillsong but I certainly did and I have no plans of returning to any church or organized religion.
Are you really saved? The denomination is not as important as your soul. Make sure that is secured. And when the denomination is in trouble, let's walk in grace towards them and pray for them. For it is still the body of Christ.
@@josephkuvor8118 I have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the moral failure of church leadership except to righteously judge them for their UNGODLY behavior!! I exhort you to use your God-ordained right to judge the bad behavior of church leadership and if there's any prayers to be said let them be that these liars, deceivers, frauds, exploiters and charlatans realize the true gravity of their misdeeds and beg Almighty God for forgiveness!!!
I do contracts and non-disclosure agreement as a paralegal for 30 years. Flags big time. It’s gotta be a heck of a lot more serious than we’ve heard about this far and I do mean that
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God Bless You, you set a Godly example. You were planted to expose and be a voice of God. Hillsong culture was always contaminated but God had a beautiful window to shine in the music, especially in recent years. To be honest I believe the purity of worship shook the contamination and God is exposing and putting His Church in order. I was in the room when Brian announced planting Hillsong in the early 80's. I could never be apart of the movement but I witnessed much for many years. When the children raped by Brian's father were never protected but persecuted and lies covering up the truth was fed to the church members then God will purge the sin out of man's hearts who allow this. Not just Brian but his buddies who invented all manner of stories to hide the truth and follow the $$
Oh dear, the person posting this seems to think people don't hear from God anymore. The guy seems spot on to me and certainly willing to stand in the fire when he needs to for the sake of justice. If the church and church leaders are people who don't hear from God anymore that's very alarming.
I've been to several mega-churches, including Lakewood Church in Houston (long before they moved into the Summit). I don't think a church can get that big and keep its eye on what's important. There are too many moving parts, and too many broken people trying to keep those parts moving. Too many people on the outside, and many on the inside too, think that people of the church are supposed to be perfect. We're all SUPPOSED TO BE perfect, but we all fall short. Some more than others. An excuse is an explanation that seeks to avoid accountability. So, we shouldn't excuse the sins of our church leaders, because there MUST be accountability in whatever form that takes. However, that's not a reason to turn away from Jesus. It's the reason we need him. Repent, and trust in God's grace.
WHAT! A non-compete for church planters?! Um, I'm no theologian, but that's anti-Gospel. I would proudly and quickly take "Hillsong" off everything. Churches should never be "mega". They should be local/community focused and Jesus always as it's head. Also, expository teaching- Bible reading should be primary in worship.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
This is a pastor who is leaving this church not as one who wants to do it right before the sight of God, but to save his kingdom. He does not want to leave this heretical group but to save his kingdom. Jude 4 leader.
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Any Church that is trying to get a pastor to sign a NDA and a Non-compete does not have the spreading of the gospel in mind. But the spreading of their church name. Shame.
What is NDA??
@@caroleimani9754 non disclosure agreement, basically a gag order
Amen! 🙏
@@mac4039 Christ built His Kingdom FOR US, we cant get footloose with our wordsjust becayse we said God.
The Kingdom us not made by mans hands my friend.
And greed! Making money. Making the church a marketplace. Praise God the tables are getting flipped over!!!!
He is the only Hillsong Pastor who has called for accountability. This takes great courage. He stood to lose everything and did it because it was the right thing to do.
He didn't stand to lose everything, should be obvious from what he is saying.
Knowing he was the the only calling for accountability, that may be why God put him there: to call out Hillsong when the scandal happened.
Also, this trail has clearly forced him to consider what should a church look like with astounding clarity and determination.
My take away: Just because things go wrong, doesn't mean God hasn't called you to it; maybe He called you to clean it up.
@@tripvanfraiz good point!
Is that the same Religious leader? He so conformed to the HS image, it's funny and sad at the same time! I wonder what his post HS look will look like... maybe a Buddhist influenced look...lol!
But he still holds a low authority of scripture.
The mention of a Non-Compete clause makes it clear: Hillsong is a business, not a church
May I remind you it's a Corporate Business.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Wow...a non compete...for God's word...shocking...we are in the world but not of it...
The more the truth comes out about Brian Houston and the Hillsong empire/cult, the more boxes for Narcissism and sociopathy are ticked by him.
HG Tudor says that one of the Narcissist's Prime Aims is character trait acquisition for the construction and maintenance of the facade.
Many Narcissists are drawn to churches because there is a huge volume of vulnerable victims to exploit.
They are drawn to positions of power and control (which they're addicted to), and they can hide under the guise of Christianity, being wolves in shepherd's clothing.
They're also whitened sepulchres full of dead men's bones. Narcissists are opportunistic parasites, and commodify others for their own consumption.
Lacking empathy, driven by entitlement, they "make merchandise of people", enriching themselves at the expense of others.
We're surrounded by sociopaths and deceivers. I'm glad that Jesus knew it all along and warned us beforehand. It's validating to be able to see the gaslighting of the evil one's puppets for what it is.
It's called Hellsong church.
I 100% believe God told him to become a Hillsong church for the very reason we see. That we are shown what being a leader of a church is about. About stepping away from evil when you see it. About being a light of truth for the world to see about making people think about actions and being accountable.
100% heard from God who worked it according to His purpose
So, are you suggesting that this God, if he is exists, told this pastor to join hillsong, even if this god was aware of all that hillsong was doing
If so, why would you worship that god?
Exactly, the reason he joined Hellsong was because they funded his church just like ARC does their churches as long as you follow their rules of teaching & preaching their curriculum
I get what you are saying and you are right: be very suspicious of anyone saying, "God told me." It's usually their own thoughts. However, in this case, God is using this pastor to expose Hillsong and stand for what is right and for that, I applaud him. Maybe that's why God put him in the situation.
Yes, Amen it was meant to be.
City Of Grace can still have Sisterhood events WITHOUT Hillsong.
Hillsong didn't become exposed because of any Pastor. It was exposed by Journalists. Pastor Christ reacted to the crisis. He didnt't act, before it was revealed. Not to blame him, but he didn't start it.
I fully believe in pastor Crist. I'm proud that he stood up to the mega church ... He's a very good man. I know him personally, he's been my pastor for over 10 years. Our church was appalled at the actions of the global church. Just because God spoke to him to join the church many years ago doesn't mean that this wasn't supposed to happen. God also teaches us lessons and our lives have seasons of change. Our church will grow from this and heal. I'm personally grateful that we are back to being city of grace. It was so much better when the Crists had full control. Not every person associated with Hillsong are bad people. Yet, I absolutely believe that something very dark and sinister was at play here. I also believe that Hillsong Phoenix and all 6 affiliate locations did the right thing. Terry Christ stood up and is holding those accountable.
see that is where everything went wrong is because he says God spoke to him, show me a new test verse where it gets said God speaks to the human being after Jesus died on the cross and Jesus resurrection,, there's no such verse,we are led by and through the Holy Spirit,,as soon as a person says God spoke to them red lights flicker in my head,
It's people like you, especially people like you in those toilets called mega churches that mock the United States Constitution and separation of church and state originally intended by the Framers.
Those whore beasts George Bush and Rumsfeld had copies of the Book of Revelation on their desks when first Invading Iraq.
Shame on you, shame on your church and let it be known that there are many of us dedicated to making sure the Constitution stays the same. Belive all the silly constructed propaganda you like but you and your delusional friends, especially those waving Jesus flags at the Capitol insurrection have done nothing but a disgusting disservice to the rest of us.
Have a blessed day.
@@Palmstreet-u7x I think most Christians believe in the trinity dude .. That holy spirit is God.
Just do not build your gospel on lying bibles.
The bible has been changed.
Did God say? Come on, really?
God said He preserved His word. Psalm 12:6-7. Most modern bibles do not. In other words they are not admitting that God has a standard, His inspired word. His word is quick (alive) and quickens (gives life). His word is eternal.
Most of the modern bibles have at least one out and out lie. NKJB lies in Exodus 6:3. They began to call on the name of the Lord in Genesis 4:26.
Others quote Jesus telling his brothers, i am not going to the feast. John 7:8. (Is he saying he is going to break the law of Moses?) He waits and then goes. Liar! BLASPHEMY .
Jesus simply said, not going now, not yet. He waits and then goes. No problem, no lie.
And blatantly they mock Jesus and unashamedly, constantly, with each change ask, Did God say?
Did God say Mark 11:26? Absolutely. It is an essential part of our walk with God. A verse that makes us tremble was added?????
Did God say? Acts 15:34? It shows God's divine providence. Silas was there when Paul needed him for a journey. Obviously Silas remained there.
BRAZENLY, they change or remove a word that gives the believers true power! Matthew 12:31 and Mark 9:29! Some spiritual warfare needs prayer and fasting!
Did God say eleven (11) times in the New Testament the word damnation, eternal burning? Yes. But not in theirs! Did God say?
Did God give three witnesses to that truth? Mark 9:44, 46, 48. They however only have v48. The other two they ask, Did God say? This is important because we need to know the truth and those who preach Annialism, we cease to exist, are easily proven wrong with these verses.
Jesus is God and Jesus is Man. Hebrews supports this with four verses, 3:3, 7:24, 8:3 and 10:12: "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sin for ever, sat down at rhe right hand of God; v10:12. They do not use the clarifying words 'this man' at all. Again, Did God say?
Every change they make is an insult to God and His word.
God said He would curse those who add to or take from His word. Revelation 22:18-19.
In the Old Testament those who honored a false prophet received the reward of that prophet. So the Alexandrian translators, the bible societies the publishers, the promoters, sellers and those who teach from them (showing those ear tickling bibles as God's word) or honor them will be held responsible. If done ignorantly, repent. God will not be mocked.
This happened when the inspired Antioch manuscripts called the Textus Receptus were replaced by the Alexandrian manuscripts called the Codex B or the Vaticanus from the Vatican basement, and the Sianiticus from a monestary. They do not agree with each other and the latter has about 30 changes per page. Obviously inspired by their spiritual father who brings conflict, frustration, despair and DOUBT.
King James Bible online
Helpful tool: Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online: Look up: REPENT, REGENERATION, BELIEVE, FAITH, REDEMPTION, PERFECT, CONVERSATION, PREVENT, PROPITIATION etc.
Suppliers: Churchkjb.com
Localchurchbiblepublishers.com
Sources:
Adullum Films Documentary
-Tares Among the Wheat video
Books: The Revision Revised and The Last Twelve Verses of Mark, both by William Burgon. Dean Burgon lived during the time of Wescott and Hort.
Book: Look What's Missing by David Daniels Chick.com.
If interested an old video called The Forbidden Book video.
It has some American History also.
What you mean you believe in him. The only person that you suppose to fully believe in is Jesus. All you do not learn. And if God told him to join hillsong no this would not have happened God doesn't make mistakes. Hillsong is not a church there is nothing Christian about hillsong. Open all you eyes and keep your eyes on the word not on man
How the heck does this mean that he didn’t hear from God? It seems like He is right where he needed to be.
He is doing the right thing. 100% standing by it
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
This pastor went full Christian hipster. Really embraced the Hillsong lifestyle
LoL he's ALWAYS been hip way before COG went Hillsong Phx.
Yes,not keen on the designer beard!!
I used to be apart of hillsong Phoenix 2017-2020. Thank god I got out of that church. Though I will say terry was different from other hillsong pastors. He would actually meet his congregation, not bail off stage hiding behind security after the service like the rest do. Though I still have a problem with how every message was a feel good and not the topic of sin.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Amen 🙏 2009-2022 here! It's always been City Of Grace for me though. People say Ps Terry transformed himself to fit in at Hillsong. No he did not. LoL he's always been hip and vibrant. Now that he's grown his beard out they see him different, is that it? Beards are trendy.
I went to Hillsong once I couldn’t even stay until the end it made me sick I want to hear the word of God not feel like I’m in a nightclub
Spent 22 years at this church when it was called, Word of Grace. It was where I learned, served and healed. I left when “pastors” Terry and Judith came on board. They have a low view on the authority of scripture and must have bypassed 1 Timothy 2:12 which is clear regarding women teaching. That, and so much in the seeker sensitive, watered down gospel movement. I’m so thankful to be a part of a church that holds Jesus high and the authority of scripture as truth.
This is so wrongly misinterpreted or misunderstood. He speaks of God calling him to open a church in Phoenix done through Hillsong at the time. Just bc Hillsong did wrong doesn’t mean God didn’t want a church planted. For example, it was God’s plan to call the nation of Israel in the Old Testament but time & time again they sinned in which He had to carry out punishment (Ex. Exile to Babylon). God can call people or churches but they may break away due to sin and in time He holds everyone accountable.
The important part is what actions did this pastor take upon seeing the inappropriate approach of Hillsong pastor and leadership? They fired the head pastor but he wanted to see leadership do more internal investigations along with disclosing info to pastors so they make sure history doesn’t repeat. Instead, they were requiring NDEs and non competes to conceal info. In ministry, God calls pastors and no one can hold back a calling. You don’t require a pastor to sign a non compete or furthermore an NDA. This is insane, a very corporate mindset and obviously there’s something wrong they don’t want to correct. The pastor did right by telling them they’re wrong and to break from the church. He didn’t have to do so.
He did right to depart from Hillsong upon the inappropriate actions of Hillsong leadership. Not wanting to disclose info or requiring NDEs/Non Competes to have that info is fishy and he did right to tell them they’re wrong. The church in Phoenix moves on.
I agree...also maybe God did call him to hillsong since he's being so open and honest about what's going on and why he's leaving. I respect that.
This!!!! He is doing the right thing. 100% standing by it
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
It reminds me of when Jesus picked the 12th disciple Judas. It didn’t work out in the end with Judas. So for those being critical could say Jesus made a mistake by picking him as a disciple.
@@brittanyleigh1759 I agree! Is it possible that God is using him to call out corruption and set paths straight, perhaps giving Hillside another chance. The voice of a prophet is a call to repentance.
I went to City of Grace (WOG) way before the Crists took over, but I left when they joined Hillsong because it felt icky right away. The "brand" took away almost everything that made it a community church, especially the way they handled the youth ministry. Frankly, these spiritual abuses are rampant in the megachurch complex, and even as much as we DO know, it only scratches the surface. The Church is not and should never behave like a corporation or a business, it's completely antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.
And Pastor Terry seen this and did what was right... leave
@@Connie_From_AZ considering he's been a champion for HS for years, leaving now when he has no other choice means very little
Me too. Left 12 years ago and hung in there for a year or so. I’m so happy to be in a church that believes in the authority of scripture and has men on the pulpit.
The video is good, the final statement in text is completely wrong however, I hear from God all the time.
I hope you meant you hear God through his holy word the Bible.
I personally feel we should never say "God spoke to me" lightly. Weeks ago one pastor told me how one pastor he is closed to (n still is) where yrs also this pastor told his church to bid for a location for $XXX Million as he felt God spoke to him on that amount to bid. Yes they successfully won the bid for that location but they actually over bidded about $6M! The highest bid was much much lower. So this had me thinking, did God actually spoken to him or its just his own voice. Mind you, he is a good pastor but it had me to be careful about using God's name in vain. These days I never go around telling people I think God spoke to me to do this or that...I dont want to make that kind of mistakes. I dont know about that pastor, whether its a mistake or not. But I dont buy the "God spoke to me" easily these days.
He did hear from God, and was in the right place at the right time. You can only influence the situation if you are inside. God can ask us to do difficult things, Phoenix church has been very brave and their example will help other churches. Only God knows the future.
God forgives. Brian Houston and his wife no doubt started Hillsong with the purest of intentions. Jesus forgives.
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Amen n Neither does God condemn and so let's pray for PST Brian
@@yulasitali725 Yes God does not condemn, only if ONES TRULY REPENTS AND MAKES GOOD WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG.
@@yulasitali725 Amen!
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
A "church' wants not only an NDA (Ephesians 5:11), but a noncompete as well? Do they think they own the Holy Spirit? Sounds like Simony to me.
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Very proud of this Pastor to stand for what is right!
You perfectly illustrate why vvomen are to be quiet, and not teach.
@@cansee0 Fortunately Jesus trusted the truth and the spreading of the Resurrection to women and not to the men who abandoned him at Calvary.
@@sbaker4920 A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
My wife and I were part of and were married at Hillsong Phoenix when it was still City of Grace. Pastor Terry Crist is NOT of the Hillsong pastors who glorifies himself and not God, is reckless with the church and those that serve the church. He made the right decision leaving the Hillsong "brand".
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Hill song leaders REPENT. God will NOT allow you to make a mockery of HIS NAME!!! REPENT NOW
It is not a time-proven wisdom to invalidate a person's claim of having heard from God just because things had gone wrong along the way. There is such a thing as 'seasons' where for a season God puts us in a place/situation/church where we know that we know that we know that we heard from God that we need to be in that specific place/situation/church. And just because it was not a forever thing, does not necessarily mean that we did not hear from God in the first place. You are giving a bad advice. But thank you for showing us the latest video of Terry, a sincere, humble servant-leader.
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Towards the end he spoke about secular organizations having more accountability than churches. Well, the church should have NEVER gotten to a place that it is run like a business. Surprised hillsong Australia hasn’t sank into a hole in the center of the earth by now. God is gracious and merciful.
How do you expect to run a church of thousands without business principles ?
@@subatomic10 easy….DONT HAVE CHURCHES WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Lol I’m sure it was probably never designed to be such. The first churches were meeting in homes. Maybe we need to go back to that.
@@kennethfraire8152 yeah you have a point. Jesus model of doing church is mobile, he didn’t have any head quarters, he was always on the move. Moreover, the church in the New Testament was also mobile-constantly on the move. We are called to be an offensive church that even the gates of hell could not prevail
It’s interesting how everyone has an opinion; about this man about Brian Houston about Hillsong Phoenix about the pastors pants??…..I wonder how many took a few moments stopped vomiting opinions and prayed for all people involved. Victims, pastors churches. These are brothers and sisters in Christ! Come on we gotta do better, Pray 🙏🏽
It's both calling out issues and praying for them.
Praying is in progress but also correction needs to be done and more accountability, which for now Hillsong has not shown. One person down and plenty that knew, and covered it up for years. That’s not a good workplace practice.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Danny, thank you. Prayer is the only answer. Pray for everyone involved. Everyone can point a finger, but how many of you prayed for those involved? The devil is happy. He has destroyed another Church and leaders. I pray that they have repented and are on the road to getting right with God first. Let God lead and guide them. I pray that they get their lives together and follow God's leading. Stop trying to find out when he knew and how he knew. We are headed for a great awakening. Get ready!
@@jtaylor6275 What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
"If you let everybody know what the offerings are, to the last dollar, and if you let everybody know how the money is spent, to the last dollar, I will cause such crowds of people to come to this place that you won't be able to handle them." This is a Word I received for a Melbourne Church with a congregation of about 2,000 almost three years ago. They were just breaking even financially, they weren't really growing; and their pastors' salaries were not public, let alone their assets.
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Well, the church members are their money making machines, otherwise how they can have such glamorous lifestyle. Prosperity Gospel
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Mega Churches Pastors live a very lavish lifestyle while some of their followers are struggling and broke.
It's such a shame that people follow Pastors, names instead of God. Instead of Jesus. Isn't that what happened to churches before and Paul talked about it? The Gospel of Jesus is all about Mercy, forgiveness, love. But Christians the moment you make a mistake they judge you sooo harshly and abandon you God said Justice and Vengeance belongs to Him. And Jesus said let he who has no sin cast the first stone. Despite the wrongs Hillsong church under its leadership has done sooo much for so many people. But ofcourse all that has been forgotten. All in all and in every situation God is God. And God shall prevail.
I hope evreyone appreciates the wisdom you just shared...thank yoo
Seek Jesus and his perfect will for our lives. I pray for all my true brothers and sisters in Christ.
GOD TAKES what the enemy means for evil....this will be GOOD.....Jesus Christ is God and loves you
Yes! There needs to be accountability for the board who had a responsibility to protect the people and not cover and enable leadership.
Hillsong was like the Tower of Babel. It was doomed to fail bcos God wasn't in it. Christians should build a church on the foundation of Jesus Christ. Our manual should be the Bible.
Congratulations for speaking against self serving people and putting God first, instead of money and egos!! God bless you!!
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
The Lord God knew what would happen with Hillsong when Terry joined. God is not obliged to reveal that to Terry. This is all a part of God’s greater Plan. He’ll work it out.
can U please show me a verse in New Test where it states God speaks to man,,i then thought we are led by and through the Holy Spirit, i cant find one verse where Jesus or apostles say we are led by God in New Test, i only find verses saying we are led by and through the Joly Spirit,as soon as someone stands up and says "God spoke directly to me" red lights start flickering in my head ,,Jesus said 'I will send the Holy Spirit tp guide you" not God speaking directly to man
God only speaks through the Bible (His Word), not to people individually on where and what to do. Otherwise, the voices in your head become just as authoritive as the Bible.
Mmm, all over the Bible God speaks thru dreams, thru throwing of dice, thru non believers, thru ...well actually it seems God can speak anyway he wants.
Voices are not in our heads and conciseness and thoughts... Many researchers and scientists agree they cannot be sure all thoughts originate in the body mind or brain. Pretty sure when the holy spirit indwells he actually does something... Doesn't just become mouldy inside us till he gets a job when we die.
Hi Glenn. I agree that God does predominantly reveal His will for our lives through the scripture. And the more we read and ask for His Spirit to impress the truth upon our hearts the more that happens. But there have been a very few instances in my life where I "heard" - definitively - the voice of God. And it was backed up or confirmed by real events.
Very few times and all were for serious reasons. After that happens it is impossible to doubt or ignore His voice.
Yes He does. God is speaking continually. If we can’t hear Him, our ears are dull of hearing or we’re turned to the wrong thing. Yes He speaks through His word, but He also speaks through His Holy Spirit.
God still sits on His throne. Man fails, God does not!!!
And his Word endures forever. God uses man as instruments to preach the Word, unfortunately man fail and need to be replaced. So hold on to the Word rather than the instrument.
You reallly believe this crap?
You raised a very good question. If God can forsee the future, why did he intend the Pastor and his church to lead them into Hillsong? No critic to Pastor Christ and his team, for taking responsibility and leaving Hillsong for justified reasons.
When the grass looks green, "I'm fully convinced God is calling me in." When the grass is no longer green, "I'm fully convinced God is calling me out." Ha. 🤣🤭🤫
God often leads people through trials and tribulations. He never promises that it will be easy only that you must seek him for answers. Terry Crist has each week updated is on everything. The good, bad and ugly. He is very transparent and he has openly tried to hold Hillsong accountable. The second he did that he was threatened with our church. They refuse to acknowledge anything (Hillsong) and keep sweeping things under the rug. It took great courage for Pastor to stand up to Hillsong. We worry what hillsongs retribution will be for him speaking out but he had to. It was the right thing to do to let us all know about the NDA and trying to force the Crists to sign over their church (which FYI we've had this church for decades ... It was never hillsongs). Please don't judge one man on the actions of others.
@@Trolls-Be-like this is no trails and tribulations,,its because Hillsong is a false church, Gods hands was never in it
as i always ask--show me a new test verse saying God directly speaks to us ,, I only find verses stating we are led through and by the Holy Spirit, as soon as someone stands up and says "God spoke directly to me " red lights starts flickering in my head, Jesus said just before His ascension into heaven" I will send u the Holy Spirit to keep u and guide U " not God speaking directly to humans
@@Palmstreet-u7x dude... Many believe the Holy spirit is God... The trinity. Not sure why you feel you want to police people's terminology or try to be God, deciding whether they might have been led by him or not.
Amen Terry. 🙌
May the Lord bless you and your wife for your transparency and not selling out! How the mighty have fallen and trying to protect themselves from scrutiny 🧐
The Lord will continue to reveal the wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Such a blow to the Christian community 😭🙏
Terry Crist is a perfect example why I dont go to church anymore and why I Hate hypocritical pathetic pastors.. just another fine example you never heard from God in the first place - just another piece of shit!
Amen Pastor Terry
Unfortunately a lot of western charismatic churches have become branded businesses it is very very sad
The only possibility is that God was teaching him how bad this group was.
I used to be a member of Fellowship Church in the DFW area (Ed Young Jr.) I strongly believed God was calling me there. But they ran me out. Did I hear wrongly? Or did God want to show me how churches in the Last Days would become? And also, to find a woman who would go through sheer hell but now lives with me, due to her poor health she would be homeless otherwise.
I don't think you heard it wrong. You were needed there for some reason. God called Jeremiah to speak to a people who wouldn't listen. That didn't mean Jeremiah was in the wrong place or not doing God's will. Stay close to the Lord and thank you for being an honest Christian.
Can u please give me a New Test verse showing me God speaks directly to man after Jesus ascended into heaven, i dont find one verse saying God speaks to us directly, Maybe there is where the problem lies,,, i then thought Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to keep us and guide us,, as soon as a person tells me GOD spoke directly to me red light starts flickering in my head,, im led by and threw the Holy Spirit,
I enjoyed Pastor Crist’s teachings. He and his wife seem like true people of God. I hope they start dressing their age though. I don’t understand the need for all these pastors to dress hip and cool.
this is what happens when music becomes the main focus of the church service and God and Jesus Christ is left out of the services, the main focus must be on the Holy Spirit during thr service
Massive respect for this pastor
❤ Blessings to this body in Phoenix!
Dear brother, no, those jeans do not work. Just a sister being honest, blessings.
Well....we have all "heard from God". Every time I read a word out of the Bible, that is a "word from God". It's application in my life or someone else's life is distinctive to the situation.
I applaud Pastor Crist, when a man of God has an intimate relationship with God his actions will clearly show that. He is standing up to what and for what he was called to serve as a servant of God.
Wow, seems IHOPKC could take note. I left this system 18 years ago, it's not built on Christ. I've been praying for over 20 years for God to topple these Empires of Man. Where is the fear of God.
God is not pleased when the church has become a market place over caring for the people within. Praise God for those who had the courage to up turn the tables as Jesus did!
Is it the hair? The Peter Pan leggings? The Billy Goat beard? No, it's the shoes! What a get up!
What room is the Amway meeting in tonight?
Such fools, such fools.
I've been patronized.
When you run a church like a business, this is what happens. A group of elders should be leading this church and not a board of directors. I pray that Terry repents and returns to how God wants his church to be run.
And the hairstyle that suits those 30 to 40 year younger than he is.
@@gv1967 And those ugly chukka boots. What the heck?
You don't seem to understand the video. This pastor is rejecting a corporate running of the church. The Phoenix church is returning to a congregational based model.
I understand that. My comment was concerning how they were running the church prior to separating from Hillsong.
Man's word are like grass that withers.
God is doing a cleansing of His house from this den of thieves.
Hillsong had a long and well-documented history of abhorrent theology. They presented an unbiblical gospel and an unbiblical Jesus wrapped in great music. If the Phoenix leadership had been discerning, they would have rejected Hillsong's false teaching and never joined in the first place.
“Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid.”
With the, on many accounts, horrific unBiblical theology behind the Hillsong churches, we could have seen this coming looooong time ago!
And it seriously questions the 2016 decision to join Hillsong churches as 16th Hillsong church.
Hillsong is theologically so bad, that God never asked anyone to join Hillsong in the first place.
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That is not sound. Why did God tell David to play for Saul when Saul continually tried to kill him? Why did he tell Paul to go to Rome then in the middle of the trip, the ship was wrecked and they were stranded on Malta? You are in no place to judge why God choses to do something. We have to trust God in the good and bad times. Period.
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 hi. Do you think that God asks to join a specific organisation, when that same specific organisation teaches thing that are unBiblical? That doesn't make any sense.
Will God ask you or me to join the Jehovah's Witnesses? Or the Mormons? No. Of course not. Because these organisation teach all kind of heresies. With Hillsong it's the same thing. Hillsong is also teaching very bad and unBiblical theology. And they have been teaching these things from the beginning of their existence.
@@atfaithvalue1728 Can you cite any unbiblical teachings?
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 hi Bridget. Good question. And I have difficulties where to start.
For one thing, Hillsong almost never preaches about sin and repentance. And therefor their message about being saved is very much watered down.
They invited (among others) T.J. Jakes and Bill Johnson to preach in their church(es). Jakes is a modalist (and therefor a rank heretic). Johnson is a Word of Faith preacher who teaches another Jesus and another gospel all together. That put Johnson and Jakes outside of true Christianity. But still, Hillsong let these people teach and preach in their churches.
Hillsong preaches that it is always God's will that you are healed. And if you're not healed, it your own fault because you don't have enough faith. whereas the Bible teaches something entirely different.
Preachers from Hillsong take Bible verses out of context and thus give it another meaning. In other words, they twist scripture to promote their own invented doctrines.
They almost never properly exegete a Bible passage. They almost always apply a technique that is called "eisegesis". In other words, they read things into a text that isn't in the text at all. And in that way they change the original Biblical meaning.
I listened to numerous sermons and teachings from Brian Houston. And he never properly explained any Bible verse or passage. He makes all Bible passages he preaches on, about you and me. Instead of about Jesus Christ.
They teach that tithing is something a Christian must do. But in the New Covenant, tithing is done away with by Jesus fulfilling the law.
And I could go on for a while. But I think you got the point.
I put a link to a video below that will give you some insight in the bad preaching of Brian Houston. You can check it by yourself.
ruclips.net/video/lrf81BCCiX8/видео.html
This really put the greed and corporatism of the Mormon church in perspective, doesn't it? The LDS Church has nothing on the Evangelical Megachurches.
. he just said not be part of the corporate built a church for man he never mention Jesus he never mention repent how sad.21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
WOWWWWWWWW
WOWWWWWWWW
WOWWWWWWWW!!!
Ohhhhhh MYYYYYYY GOSHHHHHHHHH!!!!
What a powerful powerful powerful honouring TO YOUR GOD TO YOUR POSITION TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER CHURCH AND INCREDIBLE STRENGTH WUTH HUMILITY AND GRACE AND GLORY AND LOVE AND TRUTH BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL TRUTHS !!! You Pastor have no idea how important how transparent how merciful and kind and understanding and respectful beyond my words. You are exactly where THE LORD NEEDED YOU TO BE FOR THIS DELIVERY. Standing on your own steadfast conviction no matter the price I matter the cost. Just like JESUS CHRIST YOUR BEAUTIFUL SAVIOUR AND LORD. He is with you and your family. You will never lack for anything. You will be a vital significant part of THE END TIME CHURCH MORE THAN YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW. Your heart is broken but beautiful and BRAVE. A true SON OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. You had to speak for 1000s that have been brutally abused in the name of church. Brutally savagely destroyed as I was in the same kind of church with no accountability none. Covering up full on adultery in the top leaders. The top worship leader fell pregnant and they did not expose it for what it was but held every other person to strong controls strong manipulation strong law strong exploitation of people so very poor. Never stopped asking for their money. Every single opportunity they would preach on tithing and giving and using or misusing scriptures continually. People slowly found out and they just left because they was no apology and removing those involved from the church???? On and on this mess went. And I don’t even have words for this spiritual abuse in so many and they are able to exploit over and over again with absolutely no conscience??? How if you are meant to be truly born again. I am so very very grateful and more than my words to hear you deliver the biggest biggest most honest most prophetic statement I have ever heard. I applaud you and your wife and heaven is applauding you. BRAVE AND MORE BRAVE. Don’t ever doubt that you should not have done this. It’s more than clear to me as I listened to every single word!!!!!
WOWWWWWW!!!!!
That’s the very reason you were both sent there because none have dared to do it.
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I disagree. God may have told them to move to Hillsong but the non-negotiables they put in the table before hand where wise and they acted according to it. That's something you have to have in mind 👍
So true
So God didn’t know about the non-negotiables coming?
I agreed @Rodrigo DSM - I believe He was honest.
@@thewrongshoes well, that’s a dicussion in itself. I’m suggesting that God may have told them to do so, but he gives opportunities to the people so they can course-correct their lives, repent, etc. The moment Terry saw things were not going well, he took, in my opinion, a wise decision (have in mind they were not Hillsong at first). The Bible is full of this kinds of stories. Think about this: what God told you isn’t necessarily linked to other people’s decisions and bad choises
It never ceases to amaze me that people who call themselves believers will condemn other believers who whole heartedly follow and obey God’s call in their lives. Not thinking that those same people will go through trials as well and then sit back and roast them for obeying claiming they never heard the call of Hod in the first place. You sit as unrighteousness judges with evil thoughts. You yourselves would never heed to the call in your own lives using what you think as intellect as your basis of faith. I’ve never seen this man in my life but if he lived his life by the principles he speaks of, he is a man of great integrity. You bit and devour your own brothers and sisters and wag your fingers not ever considering that there are innocent believers who will backslide into apostasy because of the actions of Hillsong leadership.
Ummm I hear from God everyday! He speaks to me . He speaks to His sheep! God surely does and can speak to His people when they seek Him and ask Him for His direction.
Glad Pastor Crist stepped away . He did the right thing. Just because this happened doesn’t mean the pastor didnt hear form God. If he says he did then he did. When God calls and chooses us leads us to places, doesn’t mean everything is going to be easy, you will face challenges, things don’t go smoothly nor perfect nor may go the way we think. And He can surely change our direction when things like this arise, you seek Gods wisdom and making the wise decision ad Pastor Crist did.
This is a good example of how we as Christians need to be overly cautious about the language of "God spoke to me." It should always be shared with a caveat that "it seems to me that the Spirit is leading." It should also be open to hear (and not be defensive of) questions from other mature in the faith believers.
God told me =Red Flags
What a hopeless Church this is. Brian never quoted from the Bible in his sermons. He needs to go to Moore College to learn how to be a minister. My daughter has a friend in LA as she wasn’t happy with the teaching.
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Sound more like a CEO trying to save his corporation than a pastor. Also just Can’t take him seriously wearing those leggings!
Lol hey he's my pastor. He and Judith have an eclectic style but they are themselves and don't pretend to be anything else. I can speak from personal experience of this church for a decade. The Crists are great people. You don't see either Hillsong pastors stroking away and losing money to do so. (He definitely lost any money raise din tithes from the last). We had a full house on Easter Sunday.
@@Trolls-Be-like Shouldn’t judge him by his appearance, but still can’t take him seriously with those leggings! Looks like he’s trying way to hard to be cool.
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:11
It's really sobering to think that he said he was absolutely certain that God called him to pastor a Hillsong Church. It just goes to show that we shouldn't be guided through life by intuitive senses and feelings, but by Scripture, reason and counsel from those who have a well-earned reputation for being godly and wise.
Scripture says that Hillsong isn't a church to join, because their popular, emotion-driven worship is trying to compensate for lousy, tacky prosperity teaching and shallow pep-rally preaching.
It doesn't matter if there are 15,000 singing every Sunday. Disobedience in doctrine makes a church a fallen church; And the Scripture says that obedience is better than sacrifice (1 Samuel 15:22 - and sacrifice meant "worship" in the Old Testament).
To obey is better than worship. It's the sum of the entire Hillsong era.
By consulting Scripture, rather than feelings, he would've found the answer to the "opportunity" to become a Hillsong pastor.
He couldn't have been more certain, and yet, more wrong. By betting it all on that feeling, he showed that
1. He's guided by feelings. And
2. Those feelings are a broken compass.
Doesn't sound like someone who should be attempting to lead people into eternity.
I was always skeptical about Hillsong. The amount of money involved is too alluring.
Hillsong make 90 million a year tax free..
It is possible God did, in fact, speak loudly to Pastor Crist to join Hillsong in 2016. Just because the scandals with Hillsong happened doesn’t mean it wasn’t in God’s plan to make this a trial for everyone involved. This was a HUGE test for Pastor Crist and everyone involved to make the right choice once these scandals occurred. It shows a lot that he was willing to basically separate from a church that isn’t clearly reflecting the gospel. Luckily he protected himself in 2016 with his stipulations, and I believe that was God’s doing as well. When God tells you to do something, YOU DO IT. even if it doesn’t make sense, even if it ends up making you leave reputation fall down, even if it makes you lose money, even if it “wasted your time.” God’s plan all along was to see how City of Grace would react to everything, including all the other partnered churches under Hillsong. It seems that all pastor Crist wants is the truth, accountability, and a church that acts and reflects God’s true nature. I’m proud that City of Grace has God as the priority and not their affiliation to a franchise. But just as importantly, I think that everyone should pray for those who sinned under their involvement with Hillsong. Those who did wrong doing should not be kicked to the curve from ever being loved again, but encouraged to repent and use their testimony to help the weak suffering through similar situations. In other words, pray for Hillsong to be closer to God in the midst of all the shady stuff going on, but also, Proud of you City of Grace!
I’ll miss the church being part of Hillsong but I overall agree this was the best choice right now.
let's build a church that worships on the Sabbath
We should have our eyes 👀 in Jesus not in Brian Houston.
I think it's much better for us to examine our own hearts as we will give account for our lives not those we attack.
Praise the Lord!!!! Finally accountability!!!!!
At :53…I’m failing to understand if this video and content is being praised by the channel or is it viewed with sarcasm.
When a man stand on a pulpit with a pants tight like that on him ....what exactly is he saying. Explain to me the point of that. Smh
No clown music necessary. There's a season for everything, and all have sinned and fall short. Doesn't mean the last 5 years was wasted.
There only Professionally contemporary pastors. In a system of hirachy . Big men , centre of attention. Reality is there baby Christians. / Nothing like the true pattern, of the first century Christians. Glad I followed Christ Jesus only.🙏👍🎶🙂
Time Hillsong admits that they are more a corporation and not a church. Time for them to pay taxes.
What happened to the clearest word from God ?
"I feel stronger about this than anything that God has ever said to me" - Yeah it's great that he finally stood up to Hillsong, but either God leads his people to make bad decisions, or this man doesn't know what discernment is - Either way it's not a good look.
Gods direction is just that, direction. It changes over time. I was told to go to Tulsa. After 7 years, I was told to move again. God doesn’t tell us everything. It could be that he was and is being used by God to expose.
@@RealJamieWorley Again, Im sorry if I'm coming across too harsh - but your examples are flawed
1) Jesus came to Earth knowing exactly what was going to happen and what he needed to do. He knew he would be crucified for our sins - Didnt take him by surprise.
2) God lead the disciples into turmoil sure, but they knew exactly what they were getting into - They knew the state of the world and it was common place at the time to be killed for your faith, especially faith in Jesus - They knew and were prepared.
I think an example closer to what you are talking about would be Job - He got blindsided and the Lord allowed it, However Job never said "God told me my family and I would never be touched" - Only to then get hit hard
You know FULL well that when this man said the Lord told him to join up with Hillsong, he couldnt see nor hear clearly - Im not knocking him for it, Im just saying dont blame God and admit he made a flesh decision.
@@bridgetjentzsch3226 Your response is exactly what's wrong with the church today. Always making excuses for bad decisions, especially when it has been claimed that "God told you" - We put too much faith in the pastors rather than God - We dont want to admit that we made the wrong move and didnt actually hear from God, so we make up excuses as to why God would lead us down the wrong path - Im convinced now that there aren't many churches that truly know God or respect him.
@@karagoddess3328 you cannot determine what someone did or didn’t hear from God. That is between them and God. Our trust is in God, not in man. We follow God but He uses shepherds to guide us.
When you joined Hillsong church I’m sure you were aware of pastor Brian Huoston’s cover-up of his father’s misconducts
Sure do and Brian's trial is in November this year 2022..Brian admitted he failed to call the police about his pedophile Father and Brian perjured himself at the Royal commission into child sex abuse saying "once I sacked my father he never ever preached again", well there's visual evidence his father did preach in 2002..Lying under oath is a crime..Brian is looking at 5_7 years jail..
Nice that you shared this message - would not have seen it otherwise. Shame you have to put your own commandments in it. Putting rules on God that he can’t speak to people and that they can’t share that God has spoken to them.
Im from Sydney Australia. I have always felt something is not right with Brian's spirit a spirit of pride. Pride comes before a fall. I'm a nobody yet discerned something was wrong. What is more worrying is the pastors around the world got caught up in a spirit of pride and there discernment teams and prophets did not sence this. Maybe it's time for these pastors to spend more time in prayer and fasting away from their churches as when you're on the outside you can see what is going on in the inside of your church. God bless you all.
The skinny jeans with skinny legs are too much
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Hey, shut your mouth...its the Hillsong uniform, how dare u speak against it.
Agree totally. Time to grow up.!!!!!!!
Should dress his age.His getup would suit his grandson.
Very emotional --- but do you take any responsibility for your 'prophetic convictions" bringing this mess about in the first place? What happened to the independent life of each local church? "Let us build us a tower... and make us a Name"... seem to have heard that somewhere before.
His change in appearance from the time he first announced to join Hillsong. Scary because it looks like he lost his true self along the way being under Hillsong. God bless him for taking a stand and may he recover fully from the madness and find renewed faith and strength in the Lord to lead his church in truth under Christ's headship.
The dude grew a beard... Must be Hillsong!
Skinny jeans cut off flow to the brain and the heart.
Oh and church should be a place of healing, safety, God first, teaching and worship. If I could find a church that is not set up like a business, I’d go back.
But the noble man , makes noble plans , and by noble deeds he stands !!!!
He built the church through hillsong, hired there stylist, he went from looking like a 1970s car salesman to looking like NEO in the matrix, and realized that there franchise agreement probably has some clause allowing termination. No more monthly check back to the corporate store. He is stoked, he is jumping for joy inside..
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I have no sympathy for either Hillsong or its leadership. You'd think "men(or women)of God" would have a conscience, self-discipline and a real concern about their flocks and what kind of image they are presenting to outsiders. Apparently not. I wonder if they realize how many people including their own congregants will walk away from anything to do with Christianity completely disillusioned. It wasn't because of Hillsong but I certainly did and I have no plans of returning to any church or organized religion.
Are you really saved? The denomination is not as important as your soul. Make sure that is secured. And when the denomination is in trouble, let's walk in grace towards them and pray for them. For it is still the body of Christ.
@@josephkuvor8118 I have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the moral failure of church leadership except to righteously judge them for their UNGODLY behavior!! I exhort you to use your God-ordained right to judge the bad behavior of church leadership and if there's any prayers to be said let them be that these liars, deceivers, frauds, exploiters and charlatans realize the true gravity of their misdeeds and beg Almighty God for forgiveness!!!
I do contracts and non-disclosure agreement as a paralegal for 30 years. Flags big time. It’s gotta be a heck of a lot more serious than we’ve heard about this far and I do mean that
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Lack of sound doctrine ... music and emotions. Hillsong
What the hell??!! Is this what money did to this guy?! He started out looking like a normal pastor, then.......WTF?!
God Bless You, you set a Godly example. You were planted to expose and be a voice of God. Hillsong culture was always contaminated but God had a beautiful window to shine in the music, especially in recent years. To be honest I believe the purity of worship shook the contamination and God is exposing and putting His Church in order. I was in the room when Brian announced planting Hillsong in the early 80's. I could never be apart of the movement but I witnessed much for many years. When the children raped by Brian's father were never protected but persecuted and lies covering up the truth was fed to the church members then God will purge the sin out of man's hearts who allow this. Not just Brian but his buddies who invented all manner of stories to hide the truth and follow the $$
Oh dear, the person posting this seems to think people don't hear from God anymore. The guy seems spot on to me and certainly willing to stand in the fire when he needs to for the sake of justice. If the church and church leaders are people who don't hear from God anymore that's very alarming.
I've been to several mega-churches, including Lakewood Church in Houston (long before they moved into the Summit). I don't think a church can get that big and keep its eye on what's important. There are too many moving parts, and too many broken people trying to keep those parts moving.
Too many people on the outside, and many on the inside too, think that people of the church are supposed to be perfect. We're all SUPPOSED TO BE perfect, but we all fall short. Some more than others.
An excuse is an explanation that seeks to avoid accountability. So, we shouldn't excuse the sins of our church leaders, because there MUST be accountability in whatever form that takes. However, that's not a reason to turn away from Jesus. It's the reason we need him. Repent, and trust in God's grace.
WHAT! A non-compete for church planters?! Um, I'm no theologian, but that's anti-Gospel. I would proudly and quickly take "Hillsong" off everything. Churches should never be "mega". They should be local/community focused and Jesus always as it's head. Also, expository teaching- Bible reading should be primary in worship.
Non competes are for business, or unscrupulous people
How do you increase accountability and hide all the names?!! What da!!
It is clear, very clear in his speech why he has chosen to leave.
What bible scripture about hillsong church?How could this be a True Church or Religion? Firstly, The True Church or religion in the Bible is the Church of God. 15 Bible Verses about Church Of God.
1 Corinthians 1:2 "CHURCH OF GOD". 1 Corinthians 11:16 "CHURCH OF GOD". In the book of James 1:27 "PURE RELIGION(CHURCH OF GOD) ". Did you noticed the word PURE on that verse? PURE - not mixed with anything else, not false, not fake but ORIGINAL. Did you also noticed the word RELIGION on that verse? Is it plural form? Apostle Paul warned to the first century christians in the book of 1 Corinthians 4:6 ", THAT YOU MAY LEARN IN US NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRIITEN,". Apostle Paul said churches or religions which are not writren in bible is in the book of 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not, like so many, PEDDLERS OF GOD'S WORD, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ." He also said in the book of Philippians 3:19 "Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Apostle Paul warned to the first century Christian in the book of Romans 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Jesus Christ said in the book of Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Anyone that considers Brain Houston a leader and someone to look up to has no discernment in my book.
This is a pastor who is leaving this church not as one who wants to do it right before the sight of God, but to save his kingdom. He does not want to leave this heretical group but to save his kingdom. Jude 4 leader.
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I agree this is fake, his intentions were never good either