How to Tile a Shower Wall...the Mixing Valve Wall -- by Home Repair Tutor
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2016
- Today we're going to discuss how to tile a shower wall...specifically the mixing valve wall. How do you cut holes in tile for tub spouts and mixing valves? Should you lay tile directly on the tub or on spacers?
We answer all these questions in today's video...
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The first thing you should do when tiling a shower is figure out your layout.
Then you should tile the main shower wall, typically this is 5 feet.
We're tiling the mixing valve wall today and this presents some problems for most homeowners.
Particularly when it comes time to cut holes in the tile for the tub spout, shower valve and shower arm.
Using a laser level makes tiling a shower so much easier.
We recommend Bosch's laser level for about $79 (amzn.to/1SJdvjB)
Line up your first row of tiles on the mixing valve wall with the tiles on the main wall.
Steve has several tips in the video to make this look super professional and neat.
Always lay your tile on a 1/16" spacer, not the tub.
And leave a 1/16" gap between the main wall tile and mixing valve tile in the corner.
In this video we used Schluter edging instead of bullnose, it's way cheaper and more modern.
We waited to install the Schluter edging until finished with all the tile but made a pencil mark on the wall to indicate it's location.
Also, when you get to the tub spout you can transfer the dimensions onto your tile.
Use a carbide hole saw to cut the hole in the tile, again, Steve has several recommendations.
For the mixing valve wall you can use a 4 1/2" angle grinder and carbide blade (amzn.to/1RwqQN0) to cut a hole in the tile.
This can be dangerous. So use a wheel guard (unlike us), goggles, gloves, respirator, etc.
Watch the rest of the video to get all of our tips
• How to Tile a Shower W...
To make tiling easier try Tuscan Seam Clips (leveling clips) :
For tile 1/4"- 3/8" (blue) - amzn.to/2A6RQAh
For tile 3/8" - 1/2" (red) - amzn.to/2j41IQj
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Really enjoyed your video. As a DIY'er, the dialog and the "over the shoulder" camera angle were incredibly helpful. You made my bathroom remodel so much easier!!!!
I’m tired of watching shower videos (mostly cause they stress the hell out of me) but once I start you’re videos I can’t shut em off. A lot of great info here, keep em coming gents!
thank you
A tip for using the holesaw without the pilot drill. Take a piece of 1/4" ply, drill into it with the holesaw, place this template over where you need the hole and drill into the tile using it as a guide, no guessing where centre is and no skidding.
I was going to say that but you beat me to it. I was sliding all over the place until the light bulb went off.
Brilliant advice... Thanks for sharing that.
Cool tip.
That’s one of my biggest problems some
Days!!!!thanks guys
Hi I just found your videos recently. I spent 16 years in basement remodeling after starting my own basement finishing business. I left the industry for 4 years and quit the 9-5, back in home remodeling.
I love what I do again. I’ve since lined up 4 bathroom remodeling jobs and 3 are mud base pans. I’ve done my own tile work for 12 years prior in the basement business. Enough about me, but I love your videos and your tile partner is a real hands in pro. Awesome videos for us with experience but still needing to learn more. Your one of my favorite tile pros to watch and learn from.
Thank you for taking the time to post and help share your knowledge and work. Looking forward to watching more.
Dave
BDI Remodeling - Chicago
What I do to use the cheap hole bit is use an old tile and drill the hole in it. Then I use it to as a template for future cuts. Thanks for the helpful video.
Excellent videos! The best I have ever seen. You do not "assume" things that most other instructional videos do. The step-by-step process is extremely helpful! As someone who used to have a bathroom remodeling business myself, I can honestly say that I learn something from every one of your videos I have viewed. Keep up the good work!
a very authentic tile contractor, no covering up real mess or perfect membrane cuts get 'er done this job looks awesome. He can cut holes in tiles for the faucet holes.
+Gordon Lam thanks, Steve definitely gets the job done and it looks pristine in the end. May not look pretty during the process but it works
I just another video of you guys demonstrating those clips.....ordered! Can't wait to try them and see how they compare to other systems I have tried...thanks
The grinder technique for the valve was awesome Steve
Thanks Antonio
Thank you for the videos! You kids are doing an amazing job!
Thank you very much/ I’m excited to start practicing and go for it. I really appreciate the help.
Video was excellent, very informant, thanks for going step by step, easy to follow.
Hey Steve, you guys are great! As someone who teaches people too, except with dogs (you might know me from Animal Planet hosting Good Dog U) I really like the way you guys are so informative in your videos. This particular video is great as I am going to tile my shower this week. We are doing a niche, and doing the pebble floor... so that video came in handy as well! Thanks for all your help! The guys are tearing out the existing 4 x 4 tile, building up the floor of the shower etc, and getting me all set up to tile.
Thanks for the great videos. Each time I RUclips a how to video you keep popping up. I enjoy your easy to follow style of teaching. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for that one tip on spacing between tiles and since one of my walls is closer to the hallway, I was thinking that it would need more room for expansion/contraction due to heavy traffic. Also, thanks for those safety tips on health (I too want to enjoy my retirement while not feeling I'm in an Olympic race). Lol! I use a mask whenever I can and cut outside. I don't want extra work either.
Great job; pretty efficient in his process. Clearly he's got a method/technique that keeps him moving at a good pace.
having a routine helps keep the tiling on schedule and definitely saves boat loads of time. Steve's been tiling for over 15 years and has learned tons of great skills that he's passing on, he's awesome
Brilliant tutorial, great production value, and off course, a damn good job on the tiling. Thank you :)
MrOwl1985 Want to see a real good tile setter check out Sal Diblasi on RUclips!
@@Dtileandremodeling Yes Sal is Great But this Guy Is a Master As well
GREAT VIDEO!!!! At around 16:35 minutes into the video, the captions say "indistinguishable". What he actually said was "on a Delta valve..."
Great job I believe it’s better to wait for muddy until you cut tile and you missed to cover bathtubs.this is not easy job you did very good thank you very much for all details
Thanks I learned some great pointers and I feel ready to tackle my shower tile project!
Now that I know how it's done professionally! I can try to do a simple repair without damaging a great initial job.
Rene Andersen 〰️
Steve is amazing and works real clean!
seriously?
This is a very well done tile installation video, using clips, horse shoe shims, and the correct tools. Great job explaining everything and great job SHOWING how it is done. hope you keep getting lots of hits!
+Douglas Payne thank you, appreciate your kind words
people using horse shims for installing metal heavy doors not tiles
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I had someone start my shower and never came back. I think I can finish it after watching this!!
Thank you, Adam and Steve :)
High quality video thanks...subscribed!
im a do it yourself . this dude is so far the best for working and teaching , thanks to both of you
Thank you for your videos....they have helped me so much!
Cool, happy they’ve helped! There are a lot more on Bathroom Repair Tutor
Home Repair Tutor i will be checking out your other videos.
See your using the Kerdi system. Love that product & company. Makes doing bathroom etc...really "easy" if know what doing. Compared to other ways, do like the Kerdi products they have.
I love you Steve. You are awesome. Talented.
Good video overall. One problem though. He states to butt the tile tight in the corners- wrong. You need to leave some gap for expansion/contraction, even if it’s only a 1/16”.
One other thing, I don’t know about other tile setters, but I don’t use a notched trowel to butter the back of the tile. A skim coat is all that’s needed- wet to wet. Two notched surfaces is a boat load of thinset.
we should have clarified that and referenced the TCNA handbook. Yes, at least 1/16" to 1/8" expansion/contraction in corners or any change of plane
Great job in his process. Thank you
thank you, hope the tips help
Thanks. Very informative
Really enjoyed your video.
+mirooo Vuujjj thanks
really good job, perfectly explained, and interesting tips. he is reckless about safety but it makes it fun to watch lol
+Ivan Fernandez lol, we're working on getting Steve a safety kit. Thanks for the kind words and hope the video helps you 👍
bro i saw that he was missing the tip of his finger and im like....yup lol
liked how to do the holes makes it much easier when you got all the right tools and its your profession not many diyers got the tools
Some good tips there , thanks guys
Nice Job, very informative
home owner must have been excited that Jim Thome was doing their tile work!
I luv the part at 19:40 where you have thinset all over the tile, the tub, your hands hahahaha reminds me of the old days when i did this stuff. lol
Oh yeah love what you do a blessing.
The other day I changed the light bulb in my bathroom. Tomorrow... I'm redoing my bathroom floor, putting up a tub and putting tiles all around. But seriously, I'm a DYS and after watching your videos and adapting them to my needs and skill level, I'm confident I can do this. And hopefully, there will not be a visit to the emergency room this time.
eddie rospigliosi - Maybe next time, dry your hands before changing the lightbulb!
Great job explaining the Schluter system and how to tile a shower/tub wall. I saw a few of your videos and did my own large tile install with mosaic accents and it came out great. Schluter is great and easy to use. Thank you for the videos!
Have one question... Should I paint before I tile the floor or afterwards? I'll be using Ditra for the flooring.
schluter is ugly and tacky
Great video! Love the 'burgh accent
It's a Delter faucet 😂
Love from Cleveland
That's beautiful video alaide samples in Everything I do
I’m in Texas I’m a licensed master plumber. I just opened my company in 12/2019. Here recently my customers have wanted me to tile showers, tubs etc. I’ve watched your videos. Truely awesome by the way. I just bought a wet saw. Trowel for Tile. I’ve tiled with my brother. He at one time use to tile with his father in law. My questions how do I figure out starting point? How much tile? Best dry cutter for tile?
Best dry cutter I know of for tile is an angle grinder with a diamond blade
Great tips, thanks for sharing 😊😊😊
Thanks Steve!
Excellent video.
I used Daltile and Schluter edging for my bathroom upgrade project too! Not cheap - but great quality. I did not completely trust my measurement/hole-cutting skills so I just notched the tiles on the "plumbing wall" and now it's hidden by the mixing valve escutcheon plate. Thanks for the vid.
The details ae great!!!!!
Great video, I noticed that you use non modified thin set mortar on the Kerdi install so it will stick to the backing do you also use non-modified thinset mortar to install the tile?
man I thought I was liberal with the mud... hahaha nice job making me feel ok about my own work 🙂
Cool tips! A lot of it I had heard from my tile instructor, which is good … that means we got systems that work! And as it is a little slow right now I’m getting some good learning to keep my muscle memory strong! Thanks… question he snuck the schluter in … does that mean the thunder was still wet behind the tile ? So was this a one day job? (The back wall) how many hours?
Very good job!
Soooo Gooood! Thank You!
Great Job
Great video! Thanks!
Music-Cool...what is that, “Starsky and Hutch theme”?
little trick; when you put the Ditra membrane to raise for the glass accent glue the orange side on the wall it make a more level surface to install the glass mosaic...
Love it. Good stuff.
Love your videos
Steve, referencing the video at 13:35 -- I can see how the Schluter Kerdi board on the shower wall warps/bends as you push to set the tile. I've always been concerned about the rigidity of these products (Wedi as well) and if they provide sufficient support for the tile installation. After all that work, I wouldn't want to lean on the wall while taking a showed and loose a tile or two. What's your take on these backboards vs the fiber cement HardieBacker board, or even cement floating the wall? Purely in terms of longevity and durability of the installation, waterproofing aside.
Firms up and gets rigid once thinset dries. As long as you have good coverage by collapsing the ridges your good.
Yyyyooooo that was an amazing video thanks
Excellent video...Thx.
Thank you for all the tips tiling a bathroom I have a question I will use a 3" x 6" white color tile what spacer size typically is used for this type of tile?
excellent up! ty
Can you give me some advice about how to use this system and seal a 1 1/4" pipe? The Kerdi pipe seal only comes in 1/2" and 3/4". Thanks.
How long can the thinset be exposed after being troweled on to the wall? It seems like it would start to dry rather quickly, effecting the bond. You guys cut tiles as you go, leaving the thinset exposed...of course as I type this, I realize you have to cut as you go because the pieces will all be slightly different. How long in real time did it take to tile the mixing valve wall? I love your videos, very clear and informative. Thanks
good questions and the pot life of each thin-set is a bit different. That said, Ardex X77 is the thin-set we used and we applied it to the wall as we tiled. You can safely finish a plumbing wall without the X77 skinning over but if it does, simply mix up another batch. It will take each person different amounts of time to do the mixing valve wall but Steve did it in 1.5 hours, primarily due to filming ;)
Putting the profile in after the tiles is interesting. I know their install instructions want you to embed it in mortar first but I like your approach.
I'd have to be a fast tiler to do that, especially using the Mapei thinset I use becasue it starts to setup so quickly. I'd probably use some small screws to secure the threshold in place while tiling if I used them..
mortar doesnt chemically set to alumminum, so you really need to embed it mechanically before hand if you dont want it to crack later down the road. sliding it in just set it inbetween the thinset but doesnt really get thinset embedded into the designed grooves to mechanically set it.
good video thank you
love this
+Dave Lewis thanks, hope it helped 👍
I am a homeowner DIYer and don't use a blade guard but I do wear safety glasses when working around porcelain shrapnel.
On his second cut he did put some glasses on.
Hi is that a tile spacer or a tile levelling system? Looks like it does both.....would love to know where you purchased.....great video btw.....thanks!!! The purple things that you click or snap together
nice work
thank you
@ 17:43 Don't wear gloves while using a grinder. Eye and ear protection a must. Great video. Thanks
+David Borchert thanks 👍
but he is a professional and professionals don't get hurt ..hahaa he a superman ..
I love your videos! Do you have the video of adding the Schluter Trim to the niche?
Thanks Kerri, we don't have any on RUclips. Those are all over on Bathroom Repair Tutor's site. Did you have a specific question?
@@HomeRepairTutor how long do you have to set the trim piece? Having never tiled before I don't have any idea how long it will take to tile from the floor to the ceiling.
Good video and I learned a lot. Thank you!
I'm not using a guard or wearing gloves an a dust mask until Steve does! 🤪
Vera 1957 - But he is a pro and so doesn’t need them!
thank you!!!!
Thanks guys very good video 📹 👍 👌
Thanks buddy 👍🏼
Thanks
I am about to retile the shower in my mother-in-law's bathroom, to save her some money from hiring professionals, and this video was extremely helpful. Thanks! By the way, do they sell those blue seam clips at Home Depot do you know?
glad it helped, SeamClips aren't at the Home Depot. Those are online over on Amazon. We also like T-Lock's system a little better. What size tiles are you setting?
A little tip for the hole saw: drill with it through an old sponge so that it fits inside of it, now you only have to dip it into water once to keep the drill cool.
+MrRedRooster thanks for the tips
Home Repair Tutor night
Great tip!
MrRedRooster fh
Is the water for the drill or to prevent the tile from cracking?
I didn't catch when to use the bright metal spacers or the black spacers. Did you discuss when to use which? and what are they called when one goes looking for them at a retail store?
Very nice
just wanted to confirm the hole saw, the diamond hole saw and using tile bit to drill pilot hole ? correct? and do you recommend non-modified thin set or regular thin set and a brand that you recommend for non-sag mortar?
great vid
Please permit 2 questions. #1 You state the tiles are ceramic. Do the hole saws work the same way with porcelain? #2 Isn't porcelain the preferred tile in a bathroom due to the humidity factor?
How about a video explaining the use and function of those blue clips.
We did this video ruclips.net/video/ZePv817tg4A/видео.html
The only complaint for these Tuscan seamclips (other than the cost since they are pricy) is that they often snap off prematurely when tightening them. Then you have to pull the last tile off to put in a new clip.
Safety glasses when using power tools! But great tiling tips thanks
Great video--very helpful. Quick question---- What size groove on the trowel (5/16"??).
+Pj Mac I think we used 1/4x1/4 square notched trowel for these tiles. Usually the thin-set will have trowel recommendations on the bag 👍
Thanks. I will use that (and check the bag).
+Pj Mac 1/4x1/4 square notched 👍
I thought you need 1/2 trowel for large format tile?
where do you get the cheap circle drill bits and what spacers do you prefer?
Awesome video. Question though, is there a video for the other two walls? Can't find one on your page.
+Malcolm Oliver thanks for asking, I'm currently working on a mini course where we have all the tiling and grouting videos in one spot 👍
But I'm tiling this weekend! Oh well, onto Google. You make great videos.
+Malcolm Oliver thanks, send me an email at jeff@homerepairtutor.com. I'll give you a hand 👍
What do you fill the empty space behind the big shower valves with? Mortar? Silicon? Grout? Tile adhesive?
1.2 million views! Incredible.
Thank you for your videos. How do you layout the tile in a shower 38 depth 54 inch back wall and 38 again if using a 12 x 24 tile. I can't seem to figure out the best layout, do I do 1/3 or half or straight?
Good question, you could make a template of the four sides with cardboard or plywood strips then lay that on the tile; 1/3 offset is best for 12x24 to minimize tile lippage at grout joints
I think you should tile the ceiling...its so much fun
I did mine in penny tile and white grout and it looks clean and shiny and next to the light it sparkles. Hard job but worth it.
youre asking for a headache
Hey guys, do you have any tutorials on pricing such jobs for small contractors ?
thanks, very informative video ! You didn't want to use Schluter inside corner accessory? (instead of caulking)
+Robi Janez we might down the road, I like the concept as it eliminates the use of caulking which always goes bad
Great video tutorial. Do you always need to use the Ditra membrane when doing mosaic inserts?
Thanks you for this video.
+David Falk not all the time, only if the mosaic tile isn't as thick as the main wall tiles 👍
Home Repair Tutor mine is thinner. so off to Lowe's go.
thanks again.
+David Falk glad to help, keep us posted 👍
Sorry but if you push the Ditra down behind the tile you have defeated the purpose. The depth becomes the same.
but still good video
@@UKBIZNET the ditra was only put where the thinner mosic glass tile was at to make them flush with the other tile