this video was packed with useful guidance. i appreciate the double aspect of demonstration and clarifying narration. thanks guys 🙏🏽 you've made my life much easier
So helpful. I'm tiling my shower today and wasn't sure the best way to start and level the grout lines. I was trying to figure out how to level the first row along the bottom but going up and down makes a lot of sense too. Thank you!
Man cannot find the remaining videos...no easy way. Want to see the corner bench and the floor finished in this exact shower. Love the videos !!! Just need to find the rest of them! thank you !
Thank you, I thought I was doing something wrong with the mess I was creating putting my large format tiles on, on the floor, the tiles, just about everywhere including my forearms! A real rapid installation and none of this clinical studio stuff you see!!! Real world working! Thanks!
What beautiful work! I always wondered how vertical tiles would stick to a wall and not fall off. You butter back of tile (vertically) and use spacer clips to hold in place which also presses down the edge. There is also a wire mesh backing to the substrate surface, probably to create a better grip for thinset. Very interesting. Useful DIY tips and also useful if you use a contractor to check quality of work. Subscribed.
Great video guys I will start tiling my shower and this video gave me great idea how to tile my shower I'm going to use 1/2 inch trowel and large format mortar from home depot will that be ok?
If understand you correctly: 1) you started by installing the midpoint of the tile overlapping the center of back wall -- to ensure the vertical tiles are symmetrical to the center of the back wall??? May end up trimming tiles on both (not one) sides. Obviously that won't be a problem if installing horizontal tiles. 2) the floor has to be perfectly leveled or the tiles at the top may not line perfectly?? Or better to start from top? Pls clarify both. Thanks.
Omg this was a perfect video for my project. I have the same tile and like the vertical installation idea. This video was the second I've seen that properly showed floor tile installation first then the wall one second! Thank you 😊
I heard sal use ardex 777 ,for glass,and said they honor shluter warranty, in regards to using modified on kerdi, generally supposed to use unmodified,sal says ardex controls drying time,in ardex 77 highly modified,I've seen video where they used a see thru glass tile,for demonstration,to show collapsing the ridges,so important in conjunction w directional troweling,have a great day guys
Do y'all have any videos installing 12 x 24 tile on the shower floor? I enjoy your videos and you helped me a lot with my first shower now I'm starting my second shower remodel in my master bath and I'm going curbless and the wife want me to use black granite 12 x 24 tiles for the shower floor
Other videos show running the thinset in the direction of the narrow side of the tile yet you chose to run it the opposite. Also, other videos show shifting the tiles 1/4-1/2" to collapse the thinset channels and you don't seem to do that. Is this just a style difference, or did the recommended procedure change in the 3 yrs since you filmed this?
Can you provide a link to the next video doing the corner step? I looked thru all the videos and can not find it. Great video btw. Keep up the hood work.
My plan is to lay 4x12 glass subway tiles vertically on the back of the entire niche. My question is: Can I butt the tiles next to each other as long as I leave a 1/8 gap at the perimeter and silicone?
This is 3 years old.. hope by no you are trialing the thinset in the right direction now.. direction needs to the smallest width of the tile makes it easier to get air out...
Hi. I’m about to tile my 4x6 shower. I have a Schluter pre sloped pan that I put the Kerdi over. I used the Latricete waterproofing material that you paint on over the Durock Would it hurt the Kerdi if I put a coat on it before I tile over it? I got two free 5 gallon buckets. It is greyish green liquid. I put three coats on the wall and shower bench. I figured I have plenty why not throw a coat on the floor. So what do you think? Thanks for the great information in the video
It’s hard to say, we’ve never done that. If the Kerdi was installed per Schluter and is bonded well then you should be okay. Good job with waterproofing DuRock. Some people skip that step. What kind of tile are you using on the walls and pan?
I’m using 10x30 wall tiles and small 2 “ hexagon mats on the floor. I got two five gallons of Hydro Ban for free from a friend I was just thinking I have it why not put a coat on just to be extra waterproof if there is such a thing
Hi there, I'm redoing my shower and it's waterproofed and I installed the marble on the Schluter triangular corner bench. Since it overhangs by about an inch it makes for a difficult cut. I feel like I saw a video on this channel where the guy in this video created a notch in the marble and slid the tile behind the notch to avoid sort of a "U" shape cut, and instead is just an "L" shape. Would you be able to direct me to that video?
Did you mix the thinset on the lower end of the water recommendation for these tiles? I found that when i mixed the all set for the edge band and membrane stuff (i used mostly kerdi board) and mixed it to the wetter side (7.5-8.5 quarts per 50 pound bag) it stayed that consistency for about an hour then noticeably started to dry after that. I haven't mixed an entire 50 pound bag yet because there was no way i could apply it and trowel it out fast enough to do all the water proofing in my shower. I do know you want the thinset drier for the tile, but I am worried when I mix it it will become too dry before i am able to use it all. The consistency at about an hour and a half was kind of like slightly wet sand I thought. Still held a notch on the trowel pretty well, and I am assuming that is what I want for putting these 12x24 tiles down. I bought rubi cyclone spacers to do mine and my shower is exactly the same size as this one in this video, and I am even running the same size tiles and same direction, just minus the shower bench and I have a window on my back wall that I am going to trim with the schluter pieces like a niche, and then a niche on the opposite of plumbing wall.
I noticed that you preparing a lot.. big batch of thinset for the time it takes to install the tiles. Are you not afraid that the thinset in the bucket will harder and you will have to dump it? Do you have a trick so the thinset in the bucket last longer without hardering?
Your Tiles installing it's very good , I have one question Tiles have same measurements but have two different thickness can we install them both, look we have different color after installation
You have to account for the difference in thickness so the faces of the tile sit flush with each other after setting or it will look very unprofessional. There are ways to build up with thinset or a combination of products to bring the thinner tile up. It is time consuming.
@@HomeRepairTutor thanks also do you have a video to tile the curve? i live the 1/3 offsetting, so start with full center piece, then to the left cut 1/3 of full piece then 1/3 of the second piece , right? then what do you do to the right side of the full piece? same pattern as like the left side?
Hi and I use mapei modified thin set LFT I mix the whole 50 lbs bag and I don't have much time to to complete the job by myself , the thin set thicking . Do you have any problem with these thin set
I will be using 6 x 24 (23 1/2) tile, but would like to do the half mark and not in 3rds, would that be ok? I like your videos, they help a lot. Thank you.
Technically yes per Schluter but you can use their ALL-SET to set tiles, abs that’s a modified thin-set. Ardex always warrantees using their modified thin-set when setting tiles over KERDI
WOW GREAT VIDEO! What size trowel was that? And could tell me why my trowel lines aren’t that less then full height some times? I think my Mapei LFT thinset is too dry?
How long did that take you to do the first wall? It seems like you laid all those in a day. Thats like 2 days for me using the Proleveling Tile Leveling System. I suck....but then again I dont set tile for a living.
It’s to help get better thin-set mortar coverage on the tile and wall. Trowel size depends on the size, shape, and thickness of tile. 12x24 are large format, so we recommend back buttering or back troweling and directional troweling both the wall and tile to get 95 to 100% mortar coverage between the tile and wall. This along with a good mortar, like Ardex X77, will ensure a good bond
Thanks guys, great video & content. Question: I see quartz slabs being installed using 100% silicone inplace of thinset mortar. Would it not be possible to silicone attach the porcelain tiles as well?
@@nickad We got quartz shower walls installed. Those slabs are 1 piece 5ftx6ft and 2 pieces 5ftx3ft -- huge panels. The installer used 100% silicone, but as blobs that are 9 inches apart. The same method should work for tiles as well. However, with tiles, each one being smaller and you need many of them to cover a shower wall, you will need to think about the spacings. What would you do for the spacing and how water proof would that be? Thats probably why people dont silicone tiles? May be you can bead the silicone as if its back buttering with thinset, you may still end up with uneven tile depths from the wall. Good luck with your pursuit.
NativeNYerChicHK great question, we used porcelain and it’s water absorption is 0.5%, so it’s not sensitive to the gray thin-set mortar like say a marble species
Home Repair Tutor Thanks! Doing my own bathroom, shower build just completed and I’m about to use very similar tile, using the white All-Set just in case. I’m a an overly cautious over-preparer LOL And because of this particular series of yours, I’m going vertical with my large tile. I really like the look! So thank you!
@@NativeNYerChicHK awesome, if you have any questions just send me an email, it's a bit easier to communicate that way than in the comments. We highly recommend using a laser level and back troweling the tiles to help in setting over thin-set buildup in the corners. Directional trowel in the direction of the short side, we didn't do that in our video but recommend it. That way air will escape easier through the trowel ridges. Also make sure to trowel thin-set on the back of the tile such that it matches the direction on the wall. And you might want to look into T-Lock if your tiles are 12x24, it helps keep all the tiles flush with each other. Here's my email jeff@homerepairtutor.com
Home Repair Tutor Thanks so much! Got my leveling system and my dual line laser level at the ready! Thanks for the tip about the directional troweling towards the short side, but that makes absolute sense since any trapped air will have a shorter route to escape! If I have question I will definitely shoot you guys an email.
Good morning! Love all your videos. We are actually looking to lay porcelain tiles (12 x 24) and flat pebbles on our shower floor! What type of mortar are you using for this? Modified or unmodified? Thank you for the tip on the white mortar as the tile place gave us grey
hello great work guys! I have a question, i am going to be tiling 10x27" on my tub surround using versa bond lft . can I continue to tile up as guys do or would I need to wait a bit on my first row to cure before tiling up .
Is it more aesthetically pleasing to use large format tiles in small bathrooms? I am redoing a 7' x 4.5' bathroom. The shower area will be 34" from front to back including 4" curb. Was planning on using a 3"x6" beveled white subway tile for the walls and a 6"x6" tile for the floor, now I sm not sure. Fyi, I have zero design skills.
smaller tiles would be best for the shower floor so they can maintain the slope, eg pebble stones or 2”x2” mosaics. Subway tiles will look great on the walls. We’d tile the floors first then shower walls and maintenance expansion gaps at any change of plane
@@HomeRepairTutor One more more question, I was planning on using the same tile on the floor outside the shower stall as I used inside the shower stall but now not so sure if that would look good. What would you do? Use the same tile and make it a continuous run from shower to main floor or use a different tile outside the shower?
@@jeffbeam7152 we install drywall then dry fit the pan then apply the Kerdi to the drywall. The final step is to install the pan and flash it with Kerdi-Band to the Kerdi walls. Here's the first video we made showing that process ruclips.net/video/ddDKHJbDYiY/видео.html
Great job and great video. Thank you for sharing. When you're back buttering in addition to spreading thinset on the wall do you use a smaller notch trowel than if you were only applying thinset to one surface?
Thank you, trowel size depends on the tile shape, size, and weight, e.g. 3" x 6" subway tile need 1/4" x 1/4" square notch trowel. So back buttering is mostly to get the 95% thin-set mortar coverage more than anything.
Good vid. At 8:54, was the shower corner curved, making shaving the corner necessary? Was it not square? What if you don't want to stagger the vertical tiles? Can they be installed like a game grid? What about tiling the ceiling? Link for laser, please. Have yet to look at the course and written content. Thank you.
It was curved just a little, due to Kerdi-Band but nothing drastic. You can install tile any way but the walls should be as flat and plumb as possible. Tile ceiling is optional but use Ardex X77 thin-set, it’s the best for ceilings. Lately we’ve been using a DeWALT laser but also like Bosch
I was wondering about this too since the TCNA says to offset by thirds. The vertical stacked is getting popular so how do you keep the tiles from cupping?
mixing thin-set per the directions helps with pot life, Schluter's ALL-SET has gotten a lot better in this respect. Ardex X77 has the best pot life and working time in our experience.
@@HomeRepairTutor Thank you so much, it is an eight footer ceiling and I intend to tile up my shower walls from bottom to top just the ceiling will be left with the dry wall and and a bathroom ceiling paint. Would that be okay ?
Yes I see the laser line on the side of tile so your grout line is level going up but how are you leveling the face of tile do you use laser level there to ?
You can use a standard 2 or 4 foot level on the face of the tile. We also used the T-Lock leveling system with this tile and that helps tremendously with keeping the tiles flat and even with each other
When installing vertical tile, it's ALWAYS start from a level line above the shower floor since it can be (and almost always is) un-level. This is a big mistake in my opinion to just start tiling from the floor because your grout lines will magnify your mistake as you go up the wall. This mistake is mentioned at minute 8:30...."I should have..."
@@tracis.5673 Traci, to install vertical tile, you need to screw a 2x4 or a sturdy piece of finished wood to the wall perfectly level. The piece of wood will hold your vertical tile in place while it dries and guarantee square grout lines. It should be less than one tile above the floor line. When your tile dries, you remove the board, fix and seal any holes left by screwing the board to the wall. Then you will put in the last row of vertical tile across the floor line which you will need to cut each piece to match the floor line. ** Side notes ** If you are doing a shower floor, always do your walls (and ceiling if desired) first except for that last row so you don't mess up newly installed tile/grout. Next do the floor. Last of all tile the last row of vertical tile so the water drains on top of the floor tile. I hope this helps.
@@tewcool2539 So what do you do with the space left over from the 2" X 4" you removed? Seems to me, and I'm no expert, that with that vertical 1/3 staggered layout you would have to start at the floor?
@@rdmj64 HI Roy, you just cut each tile to match the space below the 2x4, and please note that each piece is usually a different size AND maybe uneven across the floor line. Measure the distance at both ends of the tile and cut that angle. The floor tile will cover any small gaps.
What was that brown colored squares chequered thing put on wall. My bathroom walls are not looking to have that. If you have fitted that thing to put tiles, shouldn't you have explained that part too, without that putting vertical tiles tutorial is incomplete.
Devin Hublal It is not absolutely required in any shower,but it would be going above and beyond the normal if you used epoxy grout If it’s under 1/8” grout joints then I use non sanded grout. If it’s 1/8” or larger then I use Sanded grout
Devin Hublal It is not absolutely required in any shower,but it would be going above and beyond the normal if you used epoxy grout If it’s under 1/8” grout joints then I use non sanded grout. If it’s 1/8” or larger then I use Sanded grout
The 1/3 pattern has to do with the natural bow in a long tile. If you run a 50% bond chances are very good the crown in the middle of the tile will cause lippage (the edges of adjoining tile to be uneven). Most tile makers have a maximum offset listed for their product. You can run them with no bond (no offset) in a modern pattern since all the crowns (humps) will be lined up. Some tile are much worse than others.
@@felixamador6465 Yes you can, The arrow is there so all tiles face the same direction, wether up down left or right the arrows on all tile must point the same way. (asthetic purposes only)
this video was packed with useful guidance. i appreciate the double aspect of demonstration and clarifying narration. thanks guys 🙏🏽 you've made my life much easier
So helpful. I'm tiling my shower today and wasn't sure the best way to start and level the grout lines. I was trying to figure out how to level the first row along the bottom but going up and down makes a lot of sense too. Thank you!
Man cannot find the remaining videos...no easy way. Want to see the corner bench and the floor finished in this exact shower. Love the videos !!! Just need to find the rest of them! thank you !
Thank you, I thought I was doing something wrong with the mess I was creating putting my large format tiles on, on the floor, the tiles, just about everywhere including my forearms! A real rapid installation and none of this clinical studio stuff you see!!! Real world working! Thanks!
Great tips about build up,back trowling,expansion joints,maximizing using full tiles,thank you
Thanks Mark, we appreciate you watching the video and bringing up the important concept
@@HomeRepairTutorhow close you push porcelain tiles together
thats so good . what a great worksmanship. well done.
What beautiful work! I always wondered how vertical tiles would stick to a wall and not fall off. You butter back of tile (vertically) and use spacer clips to hold in place which also presses down the edge. There is also a wire mesh backing to the substrate surface, probably to create a better grip for thinset. Very interesting. Useful DIY tips and also useful if you use a contractor to check quality of work. Subscribed.
Great video guys I will start tiling my shower and this video gave me great idea how to tile my shower I'm going to use 1/2 inch trowel and large format mortar from home depot will that be ok?
If understand you correctly: 1) you started by installing the midpoint of the tile overlapping the center of back wall -- to ensure the vertical tiles are symmetrical to the center of the back wall??? May end up trimming tiles on both (not one) sides. Obviously that won't be a problem if installing horizontal tiles.
2) the floor has to be perfectly leveled or the tiles at the top may not line perfectly?? Or better to start from top?
Pls clarify both. Thanks.
The 1/3 running bond pattern with that LFT tile looks very cool in that shower.
Thank you, we like the final look. Chrome Schluter metal profile adds some pop to through niche, bench, and curb
Omg this was a perfect video for my project. I have the same tile and like the vertical installation idea. This video was the second I've seen that properly showed floor tile installation first then the wall one second! Thank you 😊
I heard sal use ardex 777 ,for glass,and said they honor shluter warranty, in regards to using modified on kerdi, generally supposed to use unmodified,sal says ardex controls drying time,in ardex 77 highly modified,I've seen video where they used a see thru glass tile,for demonstration,to show collapsing the ridges,so important in conjunction w directional troweling,have a great day guys
Do y'all have any videos installing 12 x 24 tile on the shower floor? I enjoy your videos and you helped me a lot with my first shower now I'm starting my second shower remodel in my master bath and I'm going curbless and the wife want me to use black granite 12 x 24 tiles for the shower floor
not yet but soon, you’ll want to create relief cuts on the tile - send me an email and I’ll help jeff@homerepairtutor.com 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@HomeRepairTutor thank you I'll send it now
Other videos show running the thinset in the direction of the narrow side of the tile yet you chose to run it the opposite. Also, other videos show shifting the tiles 1/4-1/2" to collapse the thinset channels and you don't seem to do that. Is this just a style difference, or did the recommended procedure change in the 3 yrs since you filmed this?
Confused about that. I did ask my Schluter rep, and he said to apply the thinset on direction of the shorter part of the tile.
Great video, thanks guys!
Wow... Great video. You guys are awesome. Great content and very helpful for a beginner tiler. Great explanation. Thank you.
Can you provide a link to the next video doing the corner step? I looked thru all the videos and can not find it. Great video btw. Keep up the hood work.
why don't you show the final product? I would like to see how it looks after all work is done.
Hi is there a problem with putting 1/16 grout lines on 12x24 porcelain and what grout do you recommend for a shower with 12x24 vertical tiles
My plan is to lay 4x12 glass subway tiles vertically on the back of the entire niche. My question is: Can I butt the tiles next to each other as long as I leave a 1/8 gap at the perimeter and silicone?
This is 3 years old.. hope by no you are trialing the thinset in the right direction now.. direction needs to the smallest width of the tile makes it easier to get air out...
Hi. I’m about to tile my 4x6 shower. I have a Schluter pre sloped pan that I put the Kerdi over. I used the Latricete waterproofing material that you paint on over the Durock
Would it hurt the Kerdi if I put a coat on it before I tile over it? I got two free 5 gallon buckets. It is greyish green liquid. I put three coats on the wall and shower bench. I figured I have plenty why not throw a coat on the floor. So what do you think? Thanks for the great information in the video
It’s hard to say, we’ve never done that. If the Kerdi was installed per Schluter and is bonded well then you should be okay. Good job with waterproofing DuRock. Some people skip that step. What kind of tile are you using on the walls and pan?
I’m using 10x30 wall tiles and small 2 “ hexagon mats on the floor. I got two five gallons of Hydro Ban for free from a friend
I was just thinking I have it why not put a coat on just to be extra waterproof if there is such a thing
Kerdi is good for the pan. Those wall tile need a good thin-set. Have you chosen one?
Hi there, I'm redoing my shower and it's waterproofed and I installed the marble on the Schluter triangular corner bench. Since it overhangs by about an inch it makes for a difficult cut. I feel like I saw a video on this channel where the guy in this video created a notch in the marble and slid the tile behind the notch to avoid sort of a "U" shape cut, and instead is just an "L" shape. Would you be able to direct me to that video?
Did you mix the thinset on the lower end of the water recommendation for these tiles? I found that when i mixed the all set for the edge band and membrane stuff (i used mostly kerdi board) and mixed it to the wetter side (7.5-8.5 quarts per 50 pound bag) it stayed that consistency for about an hour then noticeably started to dry after that. I haven't mixed an entire 50 pound bag yet because there was no way i could apply it and trowel it out fast enough to do all the water proofing in my shower. I do know you want the thinset drier for the tile, but I am worried when I mix it it will become too dry before i am able to use it all. The consistency at about an hour and a half was kind of like slightly wet sand I thought. Still held a notch on the trowel pretty well, and I am assuming that is what I want for putting these 12x24 tiles down. I bought rubi cyclone spacers to do mine and my shower is exactly the same size as this one in this video, and I am even running the same size tiles and same direction, just minus the shower bench and I have a window on my back wall that I am going to trim with the schluter pieces like a niche, and then a niche on the opposite of plumbing wall.
do you grout the bottom tile onto the floor or leave a small gap and silicone it?
Spot on ....... this is so much help 🥳
What brand of leveling system did you use and how do you break off the tabs before you grout?
I noticed that you preparing a lot.. big batch of thinset for the time it takes to install the tiles. Are you not afraid that the thinset in the bucket will harder and you will have to dump it? Do you have a trick so the thinset in the bucket last longer without hardering?
What size should I make my corner bench seat?
If you use silicone at the ceiling, make sure its paintable silicone. Or use a grout type caulk . Or just grout.
Hello can I use full contact motar to install my 12x24 porcelain shower wall tiles?
Your Tiles installing it's very good , I have one question Tiles have same measurements but have two different thickness can we install them both, look we have different color after installation
Are they two different kinds of tile?
You have to account for the difference in thickness so the faces of the tile sit flush with each other after setting or it will look very unprofessional. There are ways to build up with thinset or a combination of products to bring the thinner tile up. It is time consuming.
Can you attach a Kerdi Scluder corner bench to hardiboard with thin set? I realize it voids the Kerdi warranty but can it be done?
Thanks!
Great video ....may I ask the t lock system ? And which size did you use for this project ? And where can I get one of those?
we used 1/16” Clios which are on Amazon or Contractors Direct
@@HomeRepairTutor thanks also do you have a video to tile the curve? i live the 1/3 offsetting, so start with full center piece, then to the left cut 1/3 of full piece then 1/3 of the second piece , right? then what do you do to the right side of the full piece? same pattern as like the left side?
They always teach me notch the thinset
on short side of the tile air can escape you doing opposite way
Hi and I use mapei modified thin set LFT I mix the whole 50 lbs bag and I don't have much time to to complete the job by myself , the thin set thicking . Do you have any problem with these thin set
Great video!! What size clips are you using for this 12*24 tile?
Can you put 12x24 porcelain tile on a shower wall with greenboard?
My local retailers don't sell T-lock, they sell similar products that seem to snap easily. Is there a supplier that you can recommend?
I will be using 6 x 24 (23 1/2) tile, but would like to do the half mark and not in 3rds, would that be ok? I like your videos, they help a lot. Thank you.
Suggestions for ceiling drywall that isn't exactly level? Ours bows up in the middle.
For the top if you didn’t want a grout or calking joint could you use an expansion joint profile or would that not be good for the ceiling?
Should we put the floor tile first or wall tile first?
For the seams everyone says to use unmodified thin set, do you have to also use unmodified when installing these tiles to the kerdi board?
Technically yes per Schluter but you can use their ALL-SET to set tiles, abs that’s a modified thin-set. Ardex always warrantees using their modified thin-set when setting tiles over KERDI
My understanding is that unmodified thin-set is supposed to be used in all bathroom situations?
i just got these but will be doing it horizontally
WOW GREAT VIDEO! What size trowel was that? And could tell me why my trowel lines aren’t that less then full height some times? I think my Mapei LFT thinset is too dry?
How in the world do I get an exact 1/3 with a 12x24 tile the measurements are 11” 7/8 ???? Please advise!!!!
Thanks
well done, im just wondering why you didn't waterproof the walls?
What do you use to seal the joint between first tile and shower pan tile. Grout or silicone ?
I second this question
How long did that take you to do the first wall? It seems like you laid all those in a day. Thats like 2 days for me using the Proleveling Tile Leveling System. I suck....but then again I dont set tile for a living.
Can you tell me about the hybrid notch trowel what's it supposed to do better,I'm using 1x2 lft, porcelain
It’s to help get better thin-set mortar coverage on the tile and wall. Trowel size depends on the size, shape, and thickness of tile. 12x24 are large format, so we recommend back buttering or back troweling and directional troweling both the wall and tile to get 95 to 100% mortar coverage between the tile and wall. This along with a good mortar, like Ardex X77, will ensure a good bond
what's your protocol when dealing with laser levels?
normally we use the Laser Jamb to hold it then use both the horizontal and vertical lasers on ever row to ensure they remain level
Do you install the bench on the top of the schluter tray or do you cut it out?
Thanks guys, great video & content. Question: I see quartz slabs being installed using 100% silicone inplace of thinset mortar. Would it not be possible to silicone attach the porcelain tiles as well?
If you tried that, dying to know how it went.
@@nickad We got quartz shower walls installed. Those slabs are 1 piece 5ftx6ft and 2 pieces 5ftx3ft -- huge panels. The installer used 100% silicone, but as blobs that are 9 inches apart. The same method should work for tiles as well. However, with tiles, each one being smaller and you need many of them to cover a shower wall, you will need to think about the spacings. What would you do for the spacing and how water proof would that be? Thats probably why people dont silicone tiles? May be you can bead the silicone as if its back buttering with thinset, you may still end up with uneven tile depths from the wall. Good luck with your pursuit.
Great info, Thank you. Where can I purchase the T Lock clips & those pliers?
go to Perfect Level Master's site or Amazon
Badass job
What brand/size clips and plier clip are you using?@home repair tutor
What is on the wall to hold the tile?
Do you use spacers at the bottom? Great video btw.
Great video! How do you attach the center part (divided part) of the niche? Thinset or glue??
Great video . 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One question: why didn’t you guys use white All-Set? Might there be a risk of that light tile darkening over time with the dark thinset?
NativeNYerChicHK great question, we used porcelain and it’s water absorption is 0.5%, so it’s not sensitive to the gray thin-set mortar like say a marble species
Home Repair Tutor Thanks! Doing my own bathroom, shower build just completed and I’m about to use very similar tile, using the white All-Set just in case. I’m a an overly cautious over-preparer LOL And because of this particular series of yours, I’m going vertical with my large tile. I really like the look! So thank you!
@@NativeNYerChicHK awesome, if you have any questions just send me an email, it's a bit easier to communicate that way than in the comments. We highly recommend using a laser level and back troweling the tiles to help in setting over thin-set buildup in the corners. Directional trowel in the direction of the short side, we didn't do that in our video but recommend it. That way air will escape easier through the trowel ridges. Also make sure to trowel thin-set on the back of the tile such that it matches the direction on the wall. And you might want to look into T-Lock if your tiles are 12x24, it helps keep all the tiles flush with each other. Here's my email jeff@homerepairtutor.com
Home Repair Tutor Thanks so much! Got my leveling system and my dual line laser level at the ready! Thanks for the tip about the directional troweling towards the short side, but that makes absolute sense since any trapped air will have a shorter route to escape! If I have question I will definitely shoot you guys an email.
@@NativeNYerChicHK sounds good, very excited to see your progress
Great job guys!
Can I use the same pattern with 7”X20” pieces? Thanks!
Yes, offsetting by thirds will help with lippage. Back buttering is also good for that size
Do I need modified or unmodified mortar? Please help my tiles are 12x24 porcelain tile
What's the reason for using the euro notch trowel
Good morning! Love all your videos. We are actually looking to lay porcelain tiles (12 x 24) and flat pebbles on our shower floor! What type of mortar are you using for this? Modified or unmodified? Thank you for the tip on the white mortar as the tile place gave us grey
Large floor tile mortar works
hello great work guys! I have a question, i am going to be tiling 10x27" on my tub surround using versa bond lft . can I continue to tile up as guys do or would I need to wait a bit on my first row to cure before tiling up .
If Versabond works properly you should be able to set one tile after another.
Thank you!
How much water did you mix with that 50 lbs bag?
Is it more aesthetically pleasing to use large format tiles in small bathrooms? I am redoing a 7' x 4.5' bathroom. The shower area will be 34" from front to back including 4" curb. Was planning on using a 3"x6" beveled white subway tile for the walls and a 6"x6" tile for the floor, now I sm not sure. Fyi, I have zero design skills.
smaller tiles would be best for the shower floor so they can maintain the slope, eg pebble stones or 2”x2” mosaics. Subway tiles will look great on the walls. We’d tile the floors first then shower walls and maintenance expansion gaps at any change of plane
@@HomeRepairTutor One more more question, I was planning on using the same tile on the floor outside the shower stall as I used inside the shower stall but now not so sure if that would look good. What would you do? Use the same tile and make it a continuous run from shower to main floor or use a different tile outside the shower?
How do you protect the ceiling in a shower room ? Please.
Are you using large format tile mortar or regular mortar?
We used Schluter ALL-SET but also like Ardex X77 with large format tiles
What size spacers are you using?
Is there an arrow on the back of the tile indicating direction tile is to be laid?
Most tiles do have an arrow or some type of indicator
If I'm using the shluter system. Wall board and pan system witch do I install first.
Are you using Kerdi over drywall or Kerdi-Board?
@@HomeRepairTutor kerdi 1/2
@@jeffbeam7152 we install drywall then dry fit the pan then apply the Kerdi to the drywall. The final step is to install the pan and flash it with Kerdi-Band to the Kerdi walls. Here's the first video we made showing that process ruclips.net/video/ddDKHJbDYiY/видео.html
@@HomeRepairTutor I can't just use curdy board as my wall panel for my tile.
@@HomeRepairTutor kerdi board 1/2 inch
What size is the grout line? Thanks
1/16” with the T-Lock Clip
Very informative and well done. Do use a rubber mallet to pound those big tiles and avoid nerve damage to your hands.
I would do the seat top first :) before the walls preferably with a solid quartz top
That would have been a cool option for this shower, do you use Schluter or have a different system you like best?
Why seat top first?
@@RichieWohlers so the tile is over it for water runoff
are the spacers providing 1/8 or 1/16 gaps?
He says they are 1/16th here: ruclips.net/video/PXlbNn_WpQ0/видео.html
11:26 oof you got me, thought youre trying to seal your ear
What brand t-lock system do guys commonly use?
Perfect Level Master, what size tile are you setting?
@@HomeRepairTutor Same as the video - 24x24 vertical for shower walls
@@srnewnam big tiles, well worth the investment in T-Lock. You shower or a customer's?
Great job and great video. Thank you for sharing. When you're back buttering in addition to spreading thinset on the wall do you use a smaller notch trowel than if you were only applying thinset to one surface?
Thank you, trowel size depends on the tile shape, size, and weight, e.g. 3" x 6" subway tile need 1/4" x 1/4" square notch trowel. So back buttering is mostly to get the 95% thin-set mortar coverage more than anything.
Why do you just press on the tile instead of moving the tile sids to side?
Good vid. At 8:54, was the shower corner curved, making shaving the corner necessary? Was it not square? What if you don't want to stagger the vertical tiles? Can they be installed like a game grid? What about tiling the ceiling? Link for laser, please. Have yet to look at the course and written content. Thank you.
It was curved just a little, due to Kerdi-Band but nothing drastic. You can install tile any way but the walls should be as flat and plumb as possible. Tile ceiling is optional but use Ardex X77 thin-set, it’s the best for ceilings. Lately we’ve been using a DeWALT laser but also like Bosch
Almost forgot, here’s an Amazon link to our tools -- amzn.to/2OlirR3
I was wondering about this too since the TCNA says to offset by thirds. The vertical stacked is getting popular so how do you keep the tiles from cupping?
What size spacer do you use is it 1/8. Thanks
@@pchoward 1/16” is the smallest size
@@HomeRepairTutor thanks for your reply so I guess you use oneeight spacers majority of the time
@@pchoward actually I prefer 1/16”
@@HomeRepairTutor thank you very much and your videos are fantastic.
What kind of thin set to use for these big tiles
Can the kerdi shower pan have a step ladder placed on top to tile ceiling tiles?
How do you keep the thinset from drying out during cutting and installation?
mixing thin-set per the directions helps with pot life, Schluter's ALL-SET has gotten a lot better in this respect. Ardex X77 has the best pot life and working time in our experience.
gray thinset with very light tile?
What about ceiling of the washroom ? Is not going to be secured with the orange protective sheet
it’s not necessary for 8 or 9 foot ceilings unless you’re very tall and concerned about water splashing.
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So is it okay to leave the cieling with the simple sheet rock without having it plastered by kerdi cement on it ?
@@HomeRepairTutor Thank you so much, it is an eight footer ceiling and I intend to tile up my shower walls from bottom to top just the ceiling will be left with the dry wall and and a bathroom ceiling paint. Would that be okay ?
@@shehzadkamal should be okay as long as the bathroom is ventilated. Do you have a strong bathroom fan vented to the exterior?
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I will have a 150 CFM exhaust fan
Why didn’t you use a level when tiling up the wall ? I don’t see a level ANYWHERE how do you know if your falling in or out ?
We use laser levels, it may not be evident in the video but we wouldn’t set tile without a laser level
Yes I see the laser line on the side of tile so your grout line is level going up but how are you leveling the face of tile do you use laser level there to ?
Josh is asking how do you know the tile face is plumb?
You can use a standard 2 or 4 foot level on the face of the tile. We also used the T-Lock leveling system with this tile and that helps tremendously with keeping the tiles flat and even with each other
Thanks for clarifying
Great video!! I wish you could tile my shower...awesome work!!😉
Thank you, made our day 😊
When installing vertical tile, it's ALWAYS start from a level line above the shower floor since it can be (and almost always is) un-level. This is a big mistake in my opinion to just start tiling from the floor because your grout lines will magnify your mistake as you go up the wall. This mistake is mentioned at minute 8:30...."I should have..."
Can you further explain this?
@@tracis.5673 Traci, to install vertical tile, you need to screw a 2x4 or a sturdy piece of finished wood to the wall perfectly level. The piece of wood will hold your vertical tile in place while it dries and guarantee square grout lines. It should be less than one tile above the floor line. When your tile dries, you remove the board, fix and seal any holes left by screwing the board to the wall. Then you will put in the last row of vertical tile across the floor line which you will need to cut each piece to match the floor line. ** Side notes ** If you are doing a shower floor, always do your walls (and ceiling if desired) first except for that last row so you don't mess up newly installed tile/grout. Next do the floor. Last of all tile the last row of vertical tile so the water drains on top of the floor tile. I hope this helps.
@@tewcool2539 So what do you do with the space left over from the 2" X 4" you removed? Seems to me, and I'm no expert, that with that vertical 1/3 staggered layout you would have to start at the floor?
@@rdmj64 HI Roy, you just cut each tile to match the space below the 2x4, and please note that each piece is usually a different size AND maybe uneven across the floor line. Measure the distance at both ends of the tile and cut that angle. The floor tile will cover any small gaps.
@@tewcool2539 do you grout the floor tile and 1st wall tile if I use this method. Or does it just rest on the floor tile
What was that brown colored squares chequered thing put on wall. My bathroom walls are not looking to have that. If you have fitted that thing to put tiles, shouldn't you have explained that part too, without that putting vertical tiles tutorial is incomplete.
How do you guys feel about epoxy grout . And is it absolutely required for in shower tile floors
Devin Hublal
It is not absolutely required in any shower,but it would be going above and beyond the normal if you used epoxy grout
If it’s under 1/8” grout joints then I use non sanded grout. If it’s 1/8” or larger then I use Sanded grout
Devin Hublal
It is not absolutely required in any shower,but it would be going above and beyond the normal if you used epoxy grout
If it’s under 1/8” grout joints then I use non sanded grout. If it’s 1/8” or larger then I use Sanded grout
Is it required to do a 1/3 spacing of tile? Or can I just run them straight side by side?
The 1/3 pattern has to do with the natural bow in a long tile. If you run a 50% bond chances are very good the crown in the middle of the tile will cause lippage (the edges of adjoining tile to be uneven). Most tile makers have a maximum offset listed for their product. You can run them with no bond (no offset) in a modern pattern since all the crowns (humps) will be lined up. Some tile are much worse than others.
Hello, you do beautiful work. Question, can the vertical tile be placed alone the full bottom then upward.
you guys did the pebble floor first?
yes
Can you set these in a horizontal brick pattern, even though my tile has an up arrow on the short side ?
How come no one or these guys have answer this question?? I also want to know.
@@felixamador6465 Yes you can, The arrow is there so all tiles face the same direction, wether up down left or right the arrows on all tile must point the same way. (asthetic purposes only)
What size grout line?
Always tile your bench and curb over your shower floor tile... Then walls over your bench, curb, and shower floor tile...