Hey I’m thrilled that you found our article about Kodachrome! For those of us involved, it was seriously like a life highlight to get to do that. The full article is on our engineering blog if you look that up. (eng.vsco) As to sharing our findings in developing Kodachrome, it’s honestly just not something that’s really viable for people to do, and probably wouldn’t give you the results you’d be expecting. It requires chemicals that are not available anymore (so $$$), specific light exposure steps that require custom-built machinery, an exceedingly tedious manual process, miraculously preserved film (which you mentioned), and a fair bit of luck to get a good run. For us, even after spending so many months to finally get a single “good enough” run to build our model with, it still required a fair amount of processing and massaging in post to get the model to look like what we all have in our minds as Kodachrome. Our development process was an approximation, but not the same as K-14. So, while we were delighted to be able to renew the interest in Kodachrome and carry on its legacy, developing it is really not something I would suggest that any person or business take on. That said, I’m so grateful that we were given the opportunity to create a preset-from the real film-that can give people a sense of what it was like in a digital format that’s accessible today. It captured a generation of world history, and many of the best images from some of my own favorite photographers from the past.
The VSCO kodachrome pre-set is pretty good. I didn't know they also did research on actual developing. Keeping my fingers crossed. Give us kodachrome with the instant developing of polaroid 35mm film.
I used to do a bunch of urban decay stuff, photographing abandoned buildings in my home town. But my friends and I would keep a pack of cigarettes on hand to give to homeless people who were in the buildings. Just “hey we’re in here taking photos, we’ll leave you alone…here’s a peace offering”
I saw someone shoot a snowy mountain trek on lomo turquoise, and I believe they were paid to do so. The shots were amazing, and the best use of that film I've ever seen.
Back in the late '70s I used to shoot mainly FP4 and Kodachrome 64. Our chemistry prof had a formula for developing kodachrome in the school darkroom and we pounded through that stuff really cheaply. After that everything goes hazy, but thats another story.
Kodachrome could only be developed with a special process adding dye couplers in the development and was developed in huge processing runs. I very much doubt your chem prof had cracked the chemistry to do it properly in small batches.
@@geofff6671 you’re right, I realised after posting that what we were doing was colour prints not film developing. It was a lot of years ago! Thanks for putting me straight 😀
Forget the popsicle sticks and the $1500 holder. Ask your local glass shops if they have acid etched glass for framing art. It's called nonreflective, but there are two types: nonreflective coating and acid etched. The coated won't work for film scanning but acid etched is basically antinewton. As in it keeps the film from falling uniform with the glass and creating those areas of refraction (or whatever causes that, I'm not a science dude). I bought two slightly larger than 8x10 pieces with rounded edges, one a bit bigger than the other so they are easier to stack and handle, and made the height right for an Epson scanner with foam pads (film 3,6mm from the platen on my unit). They cost only 35 euro dubloons for both.
The rule on slides was to expose for the highlights and drop the shadows due to it’s narrow dynamic range. Kodachrome 64 was routinely exposed at ISO 80 to increase color saturation, that was a typical way to shoot it. If Kodachrome came back I would weep with joy.
Wish I could be home back in Roc when yall come around! Lots of niche and cool spots to get photos of the eclipse, and plenty of spots to do some street photos. Beware the numbered and lettered avenues/lanes in the inner city.
At 23:03, I actually had to go and look it up myself, and they were correct, poring over something just means means reading it with great attention. Pouring over it, I guess, would require gravy or custard, or something like that. 😛 Anyway, it was late, and my brain wouldn't let it go until I looked it up. I have one of those brains that just won't let me sleep unless I resolve whatever drivel was going on inside.
If you want to 3D print stuff, it's often a lot cheaper to just buy a cheap Creality Ender 3 and learn how to print your own stuff than outsourcing designs to some random company. I got mine about 4 years ago for about 350$ Canadian.
I miss Kodachrome. I always preferred Kodachrome to Ektachrome, and I preferred using Agfa slide film to Ekltachrome. The current Ektachrome is much improved to the Ektachrome of the 1960's/70's/80's. I like slide film, but we need some 400 speed slide film to be reintroduced.
Delta 3200 is just way more sensitive than Kentmere 400. If you have enough light you can push K400 to 3200 well but if there’s almost no light, that’s what Delta 3200 is for.
I don't understand why you don't develop black and white film at home. It is so easy, gives you much more control over the negatives you get and saves you a lot of money.
I'm pretty certain street cleaning is just an anti homeless thing. It's tickets for cars that don't run and forces non running cars to have to be in a shop or driveway. I live in Portland, OR and there is no street cleaning but the streets are just as clean as the ones in LA (where I grew up).
CRI stands for Colour Rendering Index. It's a percentage of how close an artificial light source matches the colour balance of natural "white" sunlight, so basically how well colour reproduces under that light. Totally independent of colour temperature. Lower grade LED modules don't produce red wavelengths terribly well, so colours will appear less saturated and somewhat washed out. Typical LED lighting is anywhere between 70-80, high quality household/office light fittings will have a CRI of 90-92. For video/photography lighting 95+ is typical. For DSLR scanning you want at least CRI95, CRI99 if you can wear the extra cost.
This is BS perpetuated by Negative Lab Pro. You want to match the spectral printing sensitivity of C-41 film best, which iPads and certain RGB leds coincidentally do. CRI is easy to measure which is why it is used, I wouldn't repeat stuff if I did not understand it.
@@Alex-c3o1o As someone who does lighting design and specification for a living, I can assure you CRI very much does matter. Clients wouldn’t fork out the extra $ for store retail displays, art galleries etc. if that better R9 output didn’t make a noticeable difference in colour accuracy. Can you edit around it with a DSLR scan? Probably, to a certain extent. Or you can just capture the frame as accurately as possible in camera. Thankfully good quality CRI95 light sources aren’t much more expensive than the crappy ones. And usually have much more even illumination across the diffuser, which is far more problematic with DSLR scanning… and much harder to deal with than dicking with colour channels.
so damn funny that yall were talking about street cleaning. i'm literally watching this in my car right now because it's street cleaning rn and there's no parking so im just parked waiting for the parking enforcement to get behind me so I can smash off once he gets out of his car. and once he leaves my street im going to circle around and just park in the same spot again. Fuckin LA parking enforcement is the WORST. (west LA here)
Clickbait title and you should be sent to therapy to learn how to be ashamed. The 17-in-processing-exposure-to-different-frequencies-between-bleach-steps to process Kodachrome was kinda well known to some hobbits, but they nearly all got killed off because fhey had friends who couldn’t stand that was all they would ever talk about. GD I miss that stuff.
Hey I’m thrilled that you found our article about Kodachrome! For those of us involved, it was seriously like a life highlight to get to do that. The full article is on our engineering blog if you look that up. (eng.vsco)
As to sharing our findings in developing Kodachrome, it’s honestly just not something that’s really viable for people to do, and probably wouldn’t give you the results you’d be expecting. It requires chemicals that are not available anymore (so $$$), specific light exposure steps that require custom-built machinery, an exceedingly tedious manual process, miraculously preserved film (which you mentioned), and a fair bit of luck to get a good run.
For us, even after spending so many months to finally get a single “good enough” run to build our model with, it still required a fair amount of processing and massaging in post to get the model to look like what we all have in our minds as Kodachrome. Our development process was an approximation, but not the same as K-14.
So, while we were delighted to be able to renew the interest in Kodachrome and carry on its legacy, developing it is really not something I would suggest that any person or business take on. That said, I’m so grateful that we were given the opportunity to create a preset-from the real film-that can give people a sense of what it was like in a digital format that’s accessible today. It captured a generation of world history, and many of the best images from some of my own favorite photographers from the past.
Video ideas:
Fuji cinema stocks
Darkroom content
Harman Phoenix at night
More Bladerunner 2049 vibe photos
More XPan
Koji 125T is beautiful, I’d love to see a video
The VSCO kodachrome pre-set is pretty good. I didn't know they also did research on actual developing. Keeping my fingers crossed. Give us kodachrome with the instant developing of polaroid 35mm film.
Unfortunately that is never going to happen for a whole lot of reasons.
@geofff6671 oh of course, but dont crush my dreams lol
@@trels203 if it ever happened, which it won’t, it would change the world forever, like achieving world peace!
Kodachrome doesn’t have any color dyes in the emulsion, the dyes are added during processing, so it may be more tolerant of non-refrigerated storage.
Poring is the correct spelling of "poring over"
I was listening to this podcast driving back from Vegas... then an hour later drove through Victorville and saw the Sonic... chills.
Need to hear the Mamiyamigos’ thoughts on Dune going infrared B&W in the next episode ASAP!
I used to do a bunch of urban decay stuff, photographing abandoned buildings in my home town. But my friends and I would keep a pack of cigarettes on hand to give to homeless people who were in the buildings. Just “hey we’re in here taking photos, we’ll leave you alone…here’s a peace offering”
I saw someone shoot a snowy mountain trek on lomo turquoise, and I believe they were paid to do so. The shots were amazing, and the best use of that film I've ever seen.
Back in the late '70s I used to shoot mainly FP4 and Kodachrome 64. Our chemistry prof had a formula for developing kodachrome in the school darkroom and we pounded through that stuff really cheaply. After that everything goes hazy, but thats another story.
by the way...
'pore over something' - to look at and study something, usually a book or document, carefully.
Kodachrome could only be developed with a special process adding dye couplers in the development and was developed in huge processing runs. I very much doubt your chem prof had cracked the chemistry to do it properly in small batches.
@@geofff6671 you’re right, I realised after posting that what we were doing was colour prints not film developing. It was a lot of years ago! Thanks for putting me straight 😀
Forget the popsicle sticks and the $1500 holder. Ask your local glass shops if they have acid etched glass for framing art. It's called nonreflective, but there are two types: nonreflective coating and acid etched. The coated won't work for film scanning but acid etched is basically antinewton. As in it keeps the film from falling uniform with the glass and creating those areas of refraction (or whatever causes that, I'm not a science dude). I bought two slightly larger than 8x10 pieces with rounded edges, one a bit bigger than the other so they are easier to stack and handle, and made the height right for an Epson scanner with foam pads (film 3,6mm from the platen on my unit). They cost only 35 euro dubloons for both.
This San Franciscan really didn't need to hear the out come of the Super Bowl again
the perfect hangover cure video
I'll need the Jason Dune review. I tried to hold back but I was at maximum hype and it completely lived up to it.
I saw the title and was like : *NO F*CKING WAY*
Same
The rule on slides was to expose for the highlights and drop the shadows due to it’s narrow dynamic range. Kodachrome 64 was routinely exposed at ISO 80 to increase color saturation, that was a typical way to shoot it. If Kodachrome came back I would weep with joy.
Speaking of aspect ratios, dune 2 neeeds to be seen in imax. They really made use of the imax aspect ratio for the shots it was used
For fucks sake please make a video on popsicle stick film holders.
+1
Wish I could be home back in Roc when yall come around! Lots of niche and cool spots to get photos of the eclipse, and plenty of spots to do some street photos. Beware the numbered and lettered avenues/lanes in the inner city.
The path of totality of the eclipse goes right over my house.
Top pick for 2023 best movie : Perfect Days by Wim Wenders. You gotta see it !
The intro’s back *Airhorns intensify*
Have you guys considered doing your own black and white development? (Loads more content options :) )
Nice to see u again, ma dudes!
You guys always make me smile. 🤗
With the eclipse, you can get telescopes that have typical camera mounts. go super big ... or go home.
At 23:03, I actually had to go and look it up myself, and they were correct, poring over something just means means reading it with great attention. Pouring over it, I guess, would require gravy or custard, or something like that. 😛 Anyway, it was late, and my brain wouldn't let it go until I looked it up. I have one of those brains that just won't let me sleep unless I resolve whatever drivel was going on inside.
If you want to 3D print stuff, it's often a lot cheaper to just buy a cheap Creality Ender 3 and learn how to print your own stuff than outsourcing designs to some random company. I got mine about 4 years ago for about 350$ Canadian.
What’s the name of the theme song for the pod? I love the show and I need to know. Also what’s the name of Caleb’s intro?
I miss Kodachrome. I always preferred Kodachrome to Ektachrome, and I preferred using Agfa slide film to Ekltachrome. The current Ektachrome is much improved to the Ektachrome of the 1960's/70's/80's. I like slide film, but we need some 400 speed slide film to be reintroduced.
Delta 3200 is just way more sensitive than Kentmere 400. If you have enough light you can push K400 to 3200 well but if there’s almost no light, that’s what Delta 3200 is for.
I can't hear Victorville without thinking of On Cinema with Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkington.
I don't understand why you don't develop black and white film at home. It is so easy, gives you much more control over the negatives you get and saves you a lot of money.
This episode was extra butter 😆😁
Hey! Rochester Ny here, I'll be happy to show you places to avoid in town! Kodak area is sketch at best!
I'm allergic to PB also... Great Job Lads!!
Fuji provia 100f people needs to see that film
I'm pretty certain street cleaning is just an anti homeless thing. It's tickets for cars that don't run and forces non running cars to have to be in a shop or driveway. I live in Portland, OR and there is no street cleaning but the streets are just as clean as the ones in LA (where I grew up).
you two must do Keeler CA
I'll say that I've done some decent portrait work with Lomopurple in 120
I was hoping for Dune review 💪🤪
CRI stands for Colour Rendering Index. It's a percentage of how close an artificial light source matches the colour balance of natural "white" sunlight, so basically how well colour reproduces under that light. Totally independent of colour temperature. Lower grade LED modules don't produce red wavelengths terribly well, so colours will appear less saturated and somewhat washed out. Typical LED lighting is anywhere between 70-80, high quality household/office light fittings will have a CRI of 90-92. For video/photography lighting 95+ is typical. For DSLR scanning you want at least CRI95, CRI99 if you can wear the extra cost.
This is BS perpetuated by Negative Lab Pro. You want to match the spectral printing sensitivity of C-41 film best, which iPads and certain RGB leds coincidentally do. CRI is easy to measure which is why it is used, I wouldn't repeat stuff if I did not understand it.
@@Alex-c3o1o As someone who does lighting design and specification for a living, I can assure you CRI very much does matter. Clients wouldn’t fork out the extra $ for store retail displays, art galleries etc. if that better R9 output didn’t make a noticeable difference in colour accuracy. Can you edit around it with a DSLR scan? Probably, to a certain extent. Or you can just capture the frame as accurately as possible in camera. Thankfully good quality CRI95 light sources aren’t much more expensive than the crappy ones. And usually have much more even illumination across the diffuser, which is far more problematic with DSLR scanning… and much harder to deal with than dicking with colour channels.
If you go to Rochester and tour Kodak you should heckle Kodak to bring back Aerochrome and Kodachrome. (I would drive up 5 hours to do it also)
It is poring. Poring is a different word than pouring.
Jason could start another campaign to convince VSCO by drinking some other awful drink, for example. Just sayin’…
I'm heading to Sultan tomorrow if you guys want to go again...;lol...wait, which house was being occupied??
Are we all pronouncing “process” like Lord McDougall now? I can’t keep up.
Just noticed Caleb has huge ears.
Jason sounds a bit Canadian pronouncing "process"
so damn funny that yall were talking about street cleaning. i'm literally watching this in my car right now because it's street cleaning rn and there's no parking so im just parked waiting for the parking enforcement to get behind me so I can smash off once he gets out of his car. and once he leaves my street im going to circle around and just park in the same spot again. Fuckin LA parking enforcement is the WORST. (west LA here)
23:09 It's poring not pouring, you are wrong to say they're wrong.
16:08 What was inside you Caleb?
I live in Rochester.....say hi
Popsicle sticks
what? You pay 2 $ extra for push processing??
Clickbait title and you should be sent to therapy to learn how to be ashamed.
The 17-in-processing-exposure-to-different-frequencies-between-bleach-steps to process Kodachrome was kinda well known to some hobbits, but they nearly all got killed off because fhey had friends who couldn’t stand that was all they would ever talk about.
GD I miss that stuff.
Hi, I am a makeup artist. I work for film.
Promo`SM
Marry me
marvel sucks for sure!