Evolution of the Tramways in Île-de-France (Paris) 1992-2035 (geographic map)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The history and the future expansion plans of the Tramways in Île-de-France (Paris) are shown in this animation.
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Can I just say how much I love that you also cared about constantly updating the Metro/RER map in the background? That's a fantastic detail.
now you just need a final video with the Transilien network and you've completed Paris
poor T3 could not complete the whole ring.. And T1 is surprisingly long for a tram with that many of stops?
the T1 will be divided in T1A , T1B and T1C like the T3. The extension of metro line 11 fews days ago , the signage on the station the T1A signage appear.
In the near future T1 will be split into 2 or 3 parts, just like the T3
Though, the recent opening of T3b's extension in the West brought back the idea and support for finally completing the loop.
Many locals in the West of the city, the richy-rich, pretty vocally rejected the tram and only the core city's mayor and her allies were really supporting it among major local politicians.
Then T3b was extended by 7 stations further in the West side and a number of locals started to feel like they'd miss something.
Plus, the region's president, who's also the city-region transit authority's president, clearly announced her support for the completion of the loop.
During the last extension's inauguration, they both were applauded when claiming their support for the completion of the loop and that they should start preliminary work and financing on the matter.
So, a couple years ago the full loop was anything but a sure thing.
But now it looks like it has a much much much better chance to finally happen than any previous point in time.
Presumably, it would mostly be a T3a extension, and a short T3b extension to close the loop, with a connection station at Porte de la Muette.
The "missing link" of the loop would be particularly useful on match days to help with the Parc des Princes stadium's crowds.
The T1 will be splitted into 2 parts, we just don't know if the split station will be Saint-Denis or Bobigny Pablo Picasso
The T3 loop will be completed, and feasibility studies will be financed by the end of 2024.The target is to complete the loop by 2030.
As for the T1, it will be splitted into 3 as for the T3, once the extensions have been completed.
Wow, good details, when the trams developed,the métro in the background also changing too, not just the tram
It is amazing that a city with an already extensive Metro and RER network is building Trams left and right and in the US, they discuss for 10-15 years to build a 4 mile Tram line on a straight road that is like 6 lanes wide.
That's just how Public transport is in the European big Urban Centers. Even Frankfurt am Main, which has less than 800.000 inhabitants comes with the S-Bahn Rhein-Main centered around it with 9 Lines, a Tram System with 10 Lines and a Metro with 9 Lines.
In Asterix and Obelix, Obelix usually says: "They're mad, those Romans". The Modern and Real-Life Equivalent are Americans, frommthe European Perspective. Genuinely. Such Things are just absurd.
That being said, not every European City is that lucky, especially the smaller ones. In my Homecity, Saarbrücken (you've likely never heard of it, it has 180.000 Inhabitants), they've started building a Tram-Train System in the 1990s whose 1st Line went into full Operation with a Fourteen-Year Delay (and for twice the Price) while several additional Lines that have been proposed and been in Planning (original S2, new S2 which is the northern Portion of the current S1 plus two additional Stations, S31, S32, S4, Line to the University and a Line to Püttlingen) have not started Construction ever... for over 25 Years.
The legend has once again returned! Also love how you made this very detailed changing both Trams and the RER map at the same time
It's actually great to build trams, for the same price as a metro line you can build 5 tram lines or more, and if ou do it in the outskirts where demand for metro would never be justified, you appear as doing righteous work for urban areas normally forgotten. Trams should for sure be the focus of new public transport in the near future.
If we know demand for metro will never be justified.. and we're no seers !
Tram lines 6, 7 and 9 were very needed to replace bus lines 295, 285 and 183 respectively, on which every single vehicle departed full from 6:30 AM to PM. But these two lines were long overdue and now are constricted for further push towards Paris, with no further subway convertibility.
Given the time it takes even for us to build a tram line, we have to start thinking several stops ahead and no longer back. Trams are great indeed, but only when we know for sure that we won't need to build a subway underneath in the upcoming decades.
As a person living in Warsaw with it's dense, legacy network, its crazy to see how big parisian trams have grown, really impressive for a new system
It’s insane to think most of these teams are not in Paris itself but serving the suburbs around it
The city centre is alreay well served with all of the metro and RER lines, and the city wants to get people out of their cars. Buses won't do that, and metros are expensive to construct, thus tramways / light railways are the way to go since they offer more capacity and comfort than buses, yet are cheaper than metros in terms of construction and operation costs.
But it shouldn't be insane to think that a city's suburbs can also have good transport infrastructure
@@LouisOnAirdude I’m from America and the purple line is best we’re gonna get, we don’t have good suburban transit
@@sdt1225 Then buckle up for what's opened this year in Paris and what's coming with the Grand Paris Express, beginning next year with the GPE's first 35km trunk of entirely new line to open in Q4 2025.
Since April, there was :
The opening of line T3b's extension to Porte Dauphine : a 7 station, 3.2km (2 miles) tram line extension, as shown in the video, plus 9 new trams to reinforce the line's fleet.
The opening of the first phase of RER E's West extension : 8km (5mi) of new deep bored tunnels under the core of Paris and the skyscrapers of its modern business district (first 8 of 55km of extension), plus 3 huge stations, all interchange, 2 of them deep underground cavernous cathedrals and gorgeous, the 3rd is open-air in a trench and is a 6 platform midline reverse point for partial services.
(The RER is the regional express heavy metro, one of the 4 rail based networks constituting the Paris transit system layer cake).
The opening of M11's Eastern extension : a 6km, 6-station metro extension mostly underground with just like half a kilometer that's on a viaduct with one station. Plus 39 fantastic new 5-car MP14 trains replacing the old but venerable 4-car MP59 trains that are reformed after nearly 60 years of service.
There's a second 10km extension that is planned.
The opening tomorrow Monday of M14's North and South extensions : a 7-station, 14km South extension down to Orly airport (Paris second international airport) and a 2km North extension with 1 station that's the new terminus and the Grand Paris Express project's main hub interchange station.
This was inaugurated by elected officials this week and opens to the public in less than 12 hours.
This line will operate with an 85 second frequency in peak thanks to 72 new 8-car MP14 trains (and up to 15 more if needed).
The line's expected to exceed the million daily ridership in the coming months.
That's a total 34 kilometers (about 21 miles) of new rail based transit lines and new 24 stations opening left and right in the city this year and massively improving mobility for hundreds of thousands of people every day.
It's Christmas for transit in Paris, and it marks the acceleration of the current transit-a-palooza era we're in. There'll be major sections opening pretty much every year till 2030-2032.
Plus a 5-station 4.5km transit gondola line opening in the suburbs next year also.
All this is very exciting, for transit enthusiasts just as much as for simple transit users.
You're from LA ?
Yep, most of them are replacement/consolidation for busy bus corridors
There are also a network of 5 BRT/BHNS line in Paris that is u/c....the network is called 'Tzen'.... Thus, completing the network of both trams, transilien, rer and metro even more
The fact they've consistently been opening full tram lines for the past 3 decades. Other places struggle to open just one.
cork ireland says they'll only manage to build 17km or tram lines by 2040 like come oooon (i know the population is tiny in comparison but it also means less disruption caused by contruction)
Interesting how they have been built as a series of barely related lines, rather than building a connected network from the start, but I'm sure there's a good reason for that!
Tram in Paris act as a way to link RER/Metro between each others, thus it doesn’t answer a global issue, but a local one, for example when a bus route is getting too much crowded, like for T9 or T10
probably because the goal is to connect a city/neighborhood to the nearest metro/rer/transilien ( not shown on this video so some tram route can possibly make no sense without it) station. The Paris region network is extensive enough to use inter-modality, a whole interconnected tram network is not needed
and also because of costs and priorities. better to build a completely independent line that do not connected to other trams but serve local needs anyway and keep the money for other things
wdym, haven't you seen the video ? they very much are extremely connected to the network
There is another reason. The RATP/SNCF duopoly is becoming illegal. The EU mandates an opening to competition. The newest lines were built with public funds but as medium-size enterprises with their own depots. They are run by operators selected by tendering.
@@unepintade Connected to the transport network, yes, but not so much in the way of a connected tram network.
You know, I watch videos like this and see that in one of the densest cities in the world they can build all this rail infrastructure, and yet cities in the US can't even build a 10 mile BRT line without years of delay and cost over runs.
These are not built in the dense core of Paris. But yeah, mos tof them are still built in fairly dense neighborhoods.
Next you'll need to do the Transilien suburban rail system. That's over 1200km and it overlaps with a lot of RER and Intercity services, but it's another important backbone to Paris' transportation network. I don't know how far you'd want to take it but Intercités is also an important part of the Isle De France transit network. Isle De France has something like 60% the rail service of Greater Tokyo, but only a third the population, so it punches way above its weight per capita.
yet is regularly congestioned on key points...
I missed you so much and your videos. I know it must be a lot of work but it would amazing to get videos every month from you or even couple of times per month. They are hundreds of metro systems to cover, plus all the new ones like Riyadh that are coming to life. Keep up the good work and I’ll be waiting for your videos passionately!
I completely agree! There is a particularly lack of videos about metro systems in former socialist countries (Warsaw, Bhuraset, Budapest, Kyiv, St. Petersburg, Baku, Tashkent, etc.)
A suggestion: at the final of the video you can put stats of every line: km and number of stations.
I love how you make the videos and all the details that you put in.
Toujours des vidéos intéressantes en repartant du début jusqu'à maintenant en incluant le futur du tram francilien.
Great great video !!!! Next time for next video about Paris show history and future expansion plans of the Transilien in Île-de-France ?
T3C Pont Du Garigliano Porte Du Clichy
T3B Porte Du Clichy Porte De Vincennes
T3A Pont Du Garigliano Porte De Vincennes
Great video. Would be interesting to see if the network will expand towards the city center too in the future to serve as a complement to the metro lines
*Same as in the Subway evolution video, here's an update guide from the 2024 snapshot at **4:00*
- Tram line 1 to Romainville : under construction
- Tram line 1 to Petit Colombes : under construction
- Tram line 1 to Val de Fontenay : early works
- Tram line 1 to Nanterre city hall : planned
- Tram line 13 fork to Achères : planned
- Tram line 1 to Malmaison Castle : planned
- Tram line 7 to Juvisy-sur-Orge RER : early works
- Tram line 11 to Noisy-le-Sec RER : early works (infrastructure conversion from train to tram-train)
- Tram line 10 to Clamart RER : planned
- Tram line 11 to Sartrouville RER : early works (infrastructure conversion from train to tram-train)
- Tram line 4 loop of the Montfermeil terminus : planned
- Tram line 8 to Paris - Rosa Parks RER (formerly Evangel) : planned
- Tram line 12 to Versailles-Chantiers : planned (conversion of former RER line C8 to now Transilien line V, then to tram-train infrastructure)
A split of Tram line 1 (in the same vein as Tram line 3) is expected, though the actual terminus isn't set yet.
Completion of the Tram line 3 (Porte Dauphine to Pont du Garigliano) is in early planning ,but the actual layout isn't set yet.
Wowww very good video 🎉🎉🎉
T1A Hopital Avicenna Gare de Val De Fontenay
T1B Hopital Avicenna Asnieres Quatre Route
T1C Chateau De Marmaison Asnieres Quatre Route
There are quite a few projects where funding is lacking and major delays have been announced. I think the T11 extension will never see the light of day following the announcement of the new metro line 19 scheduled for 2040.
For T1, the western part has not yet been financed and will surely be delayed. For the eastern section, financing is finally in place, but the schedule is likely to be delayed, with talk of late 2025 and late 2027 for Val de Fontenay.
It will also be divided into 3 sections following the various extensions.
T3 will also be split into 3 because T3B is too long and T3A is saturated, so once the loop is complete there will be a T3C.
Otherwise, we're missing the end of the T3 loop, with studies due to be financed by the end of the year and work scheduled for completion by 2030 (if there are no delays).
Thanks for the video
T11 will be extended. Unless of course the economical collapse happens.
Great video. Milan S lines and Boston T would also be awesome!
Wow for T1 line, very long!
Great video! Just you probably forgot to paint the southern part of line 13 blue.
You should also do the transiliens
Felicitaciones a Paris, Francia esta construyendo a avanzar el nuevo transporte publico en el futuro ❤❤❤❤
You should do a video about the Brescia Metro in Italy or Yerevan in Armenia
The transilien lines (H, J, K, L, N, P, U, V), which often justify the layout of tram lines, are not shown.
Couldn't they make just one line called T3, instead of two lines, T3a and T3b...
Would increase managing difficulty + increases the chance of both lines being stopped if a single incident happened at the very end of the line
Nice video ! How do you make these ?
Please make an Istanbul video too
Do Santo Domingo next
Make it for Jakarta please. Jakarta has many mass transportation, such as Commuter Lines (KRL), MRT Jakarta, LRT Jabodebek and LRT Jakarta
Nice vid, not sure if you realised but your background for metro lines is a bit problematic as you made line 10 finishes at invalides, line 8 branch to go to boulogne, and the line 13 is split where the south goes to montparnasse with the old colour of the line 14 ^^'
Make it for Jakarta, Indonesia please. Jakarta has many mass transportations, such as Commuter lines (KRL), MRT jakarta, LRT jabodebek, LRT Jakarta
could you please make warsaw 2050 next?
I didnt even know Warsaw has metro system
Doha metro map 2019 2026
Will there be a video about the metro in Kyiv?
I want the evolution of Transilien
The Esbly-Crecy light railway (tram-train) will be renamed T14 soon
Make a update of Santiago's metro
Excelent
Can you fo Bucharest next time?
Paris is like China in Trams
I mean in building the Trams
Stop abusing T1 line! It's already too long
T1 will be cut in many sections for the exploitation
Le T11 achevé en 2033 😂🤫
Athens 🇬🇷 please!
Le T7 doit être prolongé jusqu'à porte d'Italie
Error: Lines 3-bis and 7-bis have the wrong colours.
That's because it ignores when they became separated from their main lines in 1967 and 1971. Similarly, the line 13 is not joined, as a result, you actually have two lines 14 on the map: the historical one (now southern part of line 13) and the new one opened in 1998.
I do NOT Count T5 and T6 as REAL Tramways. To me a real tramway must have 2 rails overhead wires or ground power pickup or batteries. T5 and T6 are really and truly trolleybuses guided by a rail. This is a scheme pushed by Translohr Inc. It is a proprietary scheme. The scheme will inevitably cause wear to the roadbed by the tires wearing grooves in the roadbed alongside the rail. This will in turn need extensive and expensive repairs to the roadbed. So it is inevitable that T5 and T6 by Translohr today will have to be replaced by 2 conventional proper tramways. Ditto for Translohr "Tramways" in Italy and China.
helsinki tram
Why nobody does Madrid transport
If you even bothered to look at his channel, you would’ve seen that he did Madrid. If you can’t find it, go to his playlist and click Europe you will find it there.
@@captainjake7417he did It 3 years ago, now so many projects are under construction
@@captainjake7417 I did it. Its time to re upload it
Great video! You should do Philadelphia at some
Croydon trams began operation in 2000 and after 24 years has expanded very little. Shame we could not replicate the success of the Île-de-France tramway in London.
As a Parisian Cityzen, I can say many of these projects (projected in this video for the future) are partially true. As far as I know, the T13 extension is still on study. For T1, there's a bit of opposition to the project from a couple of cityzens. Moreover, the loop project of T3 might never come to an end, due to same reason for T1. The more realistic ones are to be the T13, the T11, and possibly T12, as it would replace the last branch of RER C left...
Great work and great video. Keep it up !
They're not "untrue" either way.
Support for the completion of the T3a & T3b loop has never been this high.
Recently, the region and transit authority's president joined the mayor of Paris in expressing strong support for the completion of the loop (while for years she said that it was neither a priority nor a necessity nor useful ; she now has shifted 180° to strongly supporting the completion).
Even some richy-rich local inhabitants who previously vehemently opposed the tram from being extended in their precious neighborhoods, now support it as they feel "left out" and that they'd miss something.
The more likely but untold reason is that they finally understood that the tram increases property value...
Opposition is one thing, but there systematically was and is some people opposing everything, and yet it gets built eventually.
Same for funding, it's complicated to get the funds, there's always some fighting and strong-arming but funds are assembled, subsidies are obtained, and the project advances.
Especially recently with many extensions, and new projects that were much less solid and evident than these ones and yet, are very much built or under construction today.
Before the project got officially launched, many didn't think that the T3b extension past Porte Maillot would happen, as it's located in the filthy-rich, SUV-addict 16th district.
But here we are, tram T3b now goes down to Porte Dauphine and crosses the end of Avenue Foch, the gazillion dollar mile... a place where you're more likely to see inhabitants riding horses wearing a top-hat than public transit.
Funding would likely be the main hurdle to overcome. But given the high demand and current "streak" of new developments, I'd say they have a very good chance of being built.
Same for the Cable C1 currently being built South of Créteil. Very few are those who would have wagered money on this gondola getting approval, funding, and being built...
The following extensions are officially listed as "under construction" :
T1 Asnières to Colombes
T1 Noisy le Sec to Val de Fontenay
T7 Athis-Mons to Juvisy sur Orge
T13 Saint-Germain to Achères
And "being studied" :
T1 Nanterre to Rueil-Malmaison
T8 Saint-Denis Porte de Paris to Paris Rosa Parks
And also M1 to Val de Fontenay and M11 to Noisy-Champs, both of which major local politicians and the head of the region and transit authority have expressed renewed and strong support. Support that was clear no longer than a week or two ago when they inaugurated the extension of M11 to Rosny.
Even T10 from Jardin Parisien to Gare de Clamart, which is listed as "in discussion", is quite strongly supported and has a high chance of being built. Several budgets have been released to further advance the project which includes tunneling.
@@KyrilPG totally. As you said, it's not untrue. I could give you also a link of every thought project for Paris suburban lines, and many of them are just not doable. For M1, there's studies, but unfortunately, due to terrain duties, it seems almost impossible to extend the line
@@tagrider1408 But none of them were officially listed by IDFM on their projects page.
That's a major difference between being listed or just mentioned in the region's master plan (SDRIF) or state-region agreement (CPER) and being officially announced, supported, and listed by the transit authority.
Quite paradoxically, the first are more "official", yet they are very preliminary, it's like a christmas list, while the second ones are communicated to the public less formally but with a much much higher chance of being built, as it's more of a waiting list or process queue.
Which terrain issues or duties? The only issue I've heard of is the declaration of public utility or interest (DUP) not getting a primary approval or having objections (which never really stopped a strongly supported project anyway).
Just like line 19 that advanced very fast lately, as it was fast-tracked by everyone involved at this stage.
It was merely a thought a few months ago and now a prospective, pathfinding, and preliminary budget has been unlocked. Even with calls for it to be transcribed into law as it is mandatory to be part of the GPE.
Few would have imagined such progress.
From what I've heard, there's even the project of finally building the much too long awaited second tunnel between CLH and GDN that's being dusted and brought back to the top of the pile.
It would start by launching a technical bid and appeal to competency for the least disturbing and fastest way of building it, thus with as few and as short disruptions as possible to both CLH and GDN, but also to the existing tunnel.
The results of this request would pretty much decide if it's done or not.
Yeah, that surprised me a lot too, but happily so.
Though, we've yet to see this bid being issued officially.
Le projet du prolongement du T13 a enfin été validé et les travaux commencent en fin année je crois
You should merge this video and the paris rapid transit video into one.
Ok but, when metrovalencia? (Valencia- Spain)
I hope for the planned BRT network composed of 11 line in KL converted into tramways like Greater Paris.... But with extra 4 line composes of highways like LDP, DASH, SKVE and DUKE
Wow, cool! ⭐️👍
Great videos. Please, maybe you could do the same on the map of Warsaw. There is not much metro, but there is also a fast urban railway (SKM), Warsaw Commuter Rail (WKD) and many tram lines. A very nice and interesting video with the entire transport of Warsaw would be ;-)
Valmy c pas a lyon?😂
А как ты делаешь такие видео, какую программу используешь?
Greater Jakarta, Indonesia please
Super informative and really well made
I think we need tramway history in Chicago
Please create a Daegu Metro, in South Korea!
Could u do zurich?
La taille du T1 est fascinante !
Do istanbul
I’ve actually planned a tram T14. It will call at Noisy-le-Sec, Bondy-David Lèder, Bondy-8 Mai 1945, Mairie de Villemomble, Rousselet, Louis Vannini, Neuilly-Maréchel Foch, Bry-Sur-Marne, Bry-Franchetti, Bollereaux-Champigny (Guy Môquet), Nelson Mandela, Moulin Vert, Chenneviers-Sur-Marne, Sucy-Bonneuil, Bonneuil-Boissy, Créteil-Valenton, Villeneuve Triage (Passerelle), Villeneuve President Wilson, Villeneuve St. Georges, Vigneux-Montgeron, Vigneux-Sur-Seine, Juvisy, Viry-Châtillion, Ris-Orangis, Grand Bourg, Évry Val de Seine and Corbeil-Essones.
Most of this will be on alignments not used by passenger services right now and the parts that aren’t will either take over from RER D (Juvisy-Corbeil Essones via Évry Val de Seine) or run on street (Bonneuil-Boissy-Juvisy)
I’ve also made plans for a T15 and T16
Tram T1 will be split into three segments, a, b and c. The junctions will be at Bobigny Pablo Picasso, the station will be rebuilt entirely to accommodate four tracks and two islands platforms in front of the future Metro Line 15 station there. The second junction, likely between T1b and c will be at Asnières Gennevilliers Les Courtilles beside the Line 13 metro station, the platforms have already been extended to feature a back to back aligned terminus at the occasion of the one station extension to 4 Routes.
Once completed:
T1a will be Val de Fontenay-Bobigny Picasso
T1b will be Bobigny Picasso-Asnières-Gennevilliers Les Courtilles
T1c will be Asnières Gennevilliers Les Courtilles-Rueil Malmaison Château.
That way, one problem on a segment won't affect the others.
As for T3a and b extensions to the West, we still don't know what will happen. Several options are discussed:
Extending both lines to join possibly Porte de la Muette.
Just making a BRT between the two tram termini (traffic is likely to be quite weak and not necessitating such infrastructure...)
Just extending T3a to Porte d'Auteuil and having a bus between there and Porte Dauphine., however the remaining distance is not that long (inferior in fact to the most recent T3b extension), thus possibly justifying a closure of the tram ring...
Why authorities don't want to finish circle of tram Nb 3?
The last bit of the circle to complete is in a very posh and conservative neighbourhood whose residents are quite hostile to projects that are this big. But there is a will from the city to complete the circle, plus it just makes sense to close the circle since there are many great sports venues in this area (Parc des Princes, Jean-Bouin and Roland-Garros)
La boucle et déjà bouclé via un bus. Mais tant que les habitants du 16ème ne sont pas d'accord le T3a n'ira pas j'usqua porte Maillot
Dommage @@jojogaming2394 😢
@@jojogaming2394 Bha si le T3 va déjà au delà de porte maillot et va jusqu'à porte dauphine depuis avril dans le 16e.
Interesting first phase of development as a concentric structure, complementary to a radial metro network, and a second phase as reinforcement of radial connections.
The T1 extension versus the east is under construction already??? I thought it was postponed with no date announced
Do MARTA next
T4 will take ten tears to build 1km of tram rail😅😅
Chouette
There are alot of cities you have covered where you should have included trams and regional rail. Especially historic trams aswell. So much content you are missing out on its embarassing