Grip Test! Avancus 1.5 vs Tolos 1.0 vs Tolos 2.0 - Battle of the Best Lifting Shoes
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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3:28 the music on the shoe race is hilarious. Honestly the originality is awesome. Keep it coming man! “You asked for more videos…”😂
I know these are super random but hope they help a few people.
This may be your best video ever. Subscribed since the commercial gym days.
Lol oh man
I know your video isn’t about this but the hanging banners in the background are so fire. They’re like banners hanging from rafters in a stadium. I love it. Would love getting a video on how you did that!
I actually have more than one video on how to hang them. For flags I like using hooks screwed into some of the wood joists. For the other banners dual sided outdoor carpet tape has worked great. In the past I’ve also used gorilla tape.
Love the background music! Makes it feel like an action movie.
Needed to spice it up lol.
This is premiere content. Thank you sir.
Haha appreciate it!
Watch out pinewood derby! Here we GOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Man my cars used to rip back in the day.
You have to try the TYR DZ-1, those are grippy AF!!!
I have some!
For what it's worth, I'm currently looking to get new shoes for lifting because my Tolos Archetype 2.0 slip when doing incline bench. They're great for flexibility and a snug fit but the grip is lacking when under pressure.
I haven't run into that issue yet personally.
Brandon, thanks for the video. How do you think the Tolos 2.0 compares to your Notorious Lifts in grip?
I find the Tolos a tad more sticky, but I should note my preferred NL are the older Gen 2 NON sumo soles. So not sure how they compare to some of the more recent versions.
Not sure if it’s a snail 🐌 or a turtle 🐢 race. Good info
Thanks Coach!
Avancus, tolos, or something else to compete in squat and conventional deadlift?
I think of the shoes out there geared towards lifting the Avancus are prob the most ideal for most.
Did you end up going TTS with the tools 2.0s? I think you went up 1/2 size from your TTS in the 1.0s right ? Thx
I’m between a 12.5-13. Originally got 12.5 but found a 13 worked better for me.
Thx! Sounds like half size up is still the way to go
Exhilarating content!
Try to contain yourself!
You gotta prepare a brother for that level of excitement first man! It’s like waking up and watching Jonathan take some pre-workout 😂
All cool kicks though.
The cinematography here rivals Christopher Nolan.
The weight of the shoe is another factor to take into consideration in this particular test. If it is lighter, it´ll slide easier
the Avancus are heavier.
amazing
Thanks for taking a look!
Hey BC, I commented recently about the Tolos you had in your competition bag, I wanted to know your thoughts vs the Notorious Lift brand (Radix or Sumo Sole)? I pretty much had settled on the Avancus, but they're OOS and they say a new version was supposed to drop, but nothing has. I'm thinking about trying the Radix for the time being since I need a new training shoe. Thanks!
So the Avancus 2 are on the way, just not sure a definitive timeline. I believe they're sending me some. That said, the Radix are good shoes. I think they're pretty similar to the avancus overall. The one thing I noticed is the toe box is slightly less wide by my big toe, but it's not bad enough were I'd size up any more. I still like the Tolos the best personally but I don't need a lot of lateral support (which they don't do as well as the others mentioned).
@@BasementBrandon Thanks BC, appreciate your time taken on this response. I just copped the Avancus V2 just now, super excited to use them and retire any shoes I used in the gym before now haha. Jake That Fit Friend said the same thing about the Tolo's, he also mentioned the 1HUND's so I'll take a look at those too as another pair for casual wear. Hope you and the fam are good and thank you for keeping me in the lifting game for the last 10 years bro.
I think you'll like them. Not sure if you are on IG but I posted about the Avancus yesterday. They're great lifting shoes for sure. I had bought a pair of the 1Hunds and wasn't a big fan, a bit more narrow than I liked and it had a built in cushioned sole. I think they came out with a new model however, but I haven't tried.
@@BasementBrandon hell yeah, just gave it a like. I've heard nothing but good things and excited to have a wide toe box in a training shoe. I had stopped deadlifting for a bit and still had been using the old adipower's for squats. Since I started deadlifting again I've just been using some puma sneakers and the wide toe box alone was a game changer, the adidas are so narrow at the toe so they're going to be retired with my chucks lol. Getting out of the 2010's finally! Good to know on the 1Hund's too, I definitely have wider feet so will stick with the Avancus for now.
Hey brandon! I know this isnt related to the vid much, but how did you size your tolos compared to your vivos/normal shoe size? Thanks!
So I'm either a 12.5 or a 13 depending on the cut of the shoe. For the Tolos I found 12.5 was a bit too tight near my big toe, so went 13 and they fit perfect. My Vivos I sized normally but they have almost a clown shoe type toe box, so lots of room I could have probably sized down by 1/2.
Came for the review, stayed for the gripping race music.
Thanks my dude
Which lifting shoe would you reccomend? I like the tolos 2.0 in black. I guess im not sure of the exact purpose of these shoes and benefit. I have the TYR1 lyft shoes for my squats and boxing shoes that double as lifting shoes and deadlift but for benching or overhead pressing i typically just lift in jordans. So i guess my question is what shoes do you pair for which compound lifts?
For squat you’re looking for stability, grip, and some lateral support. There are many options, and I imagine the avancus apex powers would win for the combination of lateral support, wide-ish toe box, and grip. The $100 lifting shoes really aren’t gonna make you squat more though compared to some cheap minimalist shoe.
For bench the main thing you need is grip. A shoe that makes your feet feel well-planted on the ground is nice, but the only truly important factor for bench IMO is not slipping. Any cheap shoe with a sticky sole could work.
For conventional deadlift, you really just want to be barefoot if possible. A pair of shoes is just going to put you in a tiny deficit at best and destabilize you at worst.
For sumo deadlift you want a lot of lateral support and grip. The original avancus apex powers are well known for being the best sumo deadlift shoe as far as I’m aware. As always, being barefoot works great too.
It appears the TYR-1 which i own and love have a heel lift and appear stiffer. The tolos appear more flexible and flatter. I’m not sure but while they are both lifting shoes, they may have different purposes.
A lot of this is preference. B/c I prefer to squat in flats, a minimalistic shoe makes the most sense as they typically are wider in the toe box to better fit my feet and offer little to no distance between you and the floor (stack height). I don't externally rotate super hard, not do i pull sumo, so having a well built side wall isn't something I really need, which is why the Tolos for me are my favorite (I'm also partial liking how they look). I don't think you're missing a ton by not going to a more minimalistic shoe, but for those who want to eliminate every disadvantage, no matter how small, it might be something to consider.
Some good responses here. I might add that for bench, sometimes people like to wear a heeled shoe to help get them in a better position and more push for leg drive.
I keep watching reviews but I’ve already made up my mind and plan to order a pair of the new avancus haha
I just did a first impressions on my training day. I think for $99 they’re worthwhile.
The Pinewood Derby of lifting shoes!
Damn it. I wish I thought of that.
The super hero action music tho lol
Had to spice it up somehow!
Hansu doesn't sell shoes?
They make slippers, very similar to Notorious Lift.
Wouldn’t mind a Vivo Barefoot review if you want to rack up some more pairs! Even better, buy them in my size and send them to me once you’ve done the tax deduction haha
I did one on the Primus Lite!
@@BasementBrandon excellent I shall go for a look. But holy shit they’re expensive in Aus - $250 😩
I looked forward to receiving my Tolos but I now have a pair of shoes which are totally useless and will have to land in the trashcan. Customer service couldn't care less, so unprofessional, they even remove negative reviews from their website!!!
Why are they useless?
@@BasementBrandon followed the size chart but it still feels to small and they don't want to change it...
this video was good lol
Thanks for taking a look!
science based lifting wins again
I'm submitting this research to get that Nobel Peace Prize.
Why didn't you finish your basement first before setting up your home gym? That way the walls and ceilings at least look nicer. I understand you're covering them up with posters but your ceilings can install pot lights or have nice finishes no? My guy.
My point of view is there isn't a reason to. It's a gym and not a living room 🤪
Each shoe should be weighed out to be the same if you want to compare grip.
Ain't nobody got time fo dat! 😇
I see an exxentric k box in the back. You find yourself using it or will this be on FB marketplace? Is there a video to come?
I had a Alibaba kbox knockoff for a while but managed to pickup a Kabuki Kratos used in my area so now I can also do horizontal movements in addition to vertical... My only real complaint is I ordered extra plates through Kabuki which in typical Kabuki fashion took almost three month if memory serves me right.
Whooaa!
So I have yet to really test it. I'm having a hard time finding where it fits in my training. Seems it's best served for higher rep/hypertrophy work. How do you utilize it?
@@BasementBrandon hypertrophy and accessory movements it's never the first exercise or focus of my workout. I try to use it one to two times a week but average half that likely three times a month now and just once within a workout.. I'd start with something easy like bicep curls or bent over row for your very first movement to get use to the device because it is unique before strapping on... I mean strapping in and substituting something like a front squat or goblet squat with a squat harness... I use mine for accessory squats, Bulgarian squats (really suck) which on a k box would be really high so watch your head, bent over rows, face pulls, shoulder to overhead movements, tricep push down, occasional bicep curls nothing crazy.
Personally I try to go hard on the concentric so you don't end up half assing the eccentric, you're always fighting the momentum you just created so for me going hard on the concentric ensures that I go hard on the eccentric. It's a novel stimulus.
I also like to do drop sets for time because the reps just take longer on both the concentric and eccentric portion of the movement compared to the substituted exercise. I do find myself taking longer breaks after each set in general as I find it more taxing overall compared to preforming the same movement with a free weight or cable.
Completely unrelated ever considered attaching your leg curl extension to your low pulley to even out the strength curve of the movement? I see you use a band on that.
@@rodolfomedini9931 Thats kind of what I envisioned my use of the kbox to be. I'll have to start toying with it more, appreciate the detailed response. For the leg ext/curl, it would be such a pain in the ass to set up and the band actually works well! I talk about it in my training video from today that I'm uploading as I type this.
Those tolos look nice
I like the overall look but I don't think I like the all blacked out shoe look.
Can you do a side by side comparison of tolos 1.0 vs 2.0
Yes I can try. There aren't a ton of differences to me outside of the more minimalistic design, new colors, and new upper material
The one trick Big Grip doesn't want you to know!
😂
Anyone else get their Avancus in? Their sizing seems to be a bit off, mine fit like clown shoes. Wear a 10.5 Romaleos so I ordered a 10-10.5 Avancus and they are 1 or 2 sizes too big. Apparently they don't refund initial shipping or return shipping, so be warned. They really need an actual inch/cm size chart.
Mine fit true to size. I've always found nikes run small and on the narrow side.
Please put a warning up before letting them go, Brandon. Some of us have heart conditions.
We can't hide behind the media's false narratives. This is the information people need to see.
The Avancus website is asking for a password. Anyone else seeing this?
It's bc it doesn't open until launch (Friday)
I'll take any video I'm not complaining lol
my man
are you using your exxentric?
Not much yet. I'm stuggling to find a place where it fits in my training.
Do you have a reason for shoes? I just go down in my basement with yoga socks.
Few reasons. Grip is important for the type of lifting I do (powerlifting) and socks don't provide that. Also I regularly compete and you are required to wear shoes.
@@BasementBrandon
Yeah I use "yoga socks" i.e. grippy socks. I don't compete, but the very rare occasion I powerlift in a gym my zero shoes are meant to feel like I'm not wearing shoes anyway (as are your shoes) which I guess was my real question - reason for shoes when you're going minimalist anyway.
Figured it was for competition specificity but was curious if you also were doing it to protect your toes or something.
I always debate putting my zeroes on for the stub toe safety but just find not doing that more convenient (cause I'm that lazy I guess).
Thanks for the answer!
How do we know those 2.0s aren't stickier due to the (matching) color of the pad?
I think that theory would be put to rest by the fact that the 1.0s had the same color sole as the avancus?
@@BasementBrandon Indeed, true comparting the two white shoes, but what about the black?
@@squealer42i dont think the color of the bench pad have anything to do with stickiness
@@gourmetpez2291 I think REP should produce and send him a custom white utility seat pad so we can know for sure. At a minimum, it would look sick!
What’s your 9-5 bro?
He works for Dell - Computer Stuff
I work in Learning & Development (training) for a technology company
Oh sweet, any chance you could speak a little about your experience and give some tips on entering the tech industry. Currently i am working to transition from my blue collar job into tech and I value your opinion. Anyways, I know this is totally random. Thank you for entertaining
@@tony1118tony so my educational background was a BS in Economics, which I never used. Got a job at a company who sold power/racks/cooling (data center) out of school and started in their call center doing basic sales and tech support. That eventually led to a role in training & enablement. After a few years doing that I took an opportunity at a small networking start up to build their training department from the ground up. Several years later wanted to expand my career and earning opportunity so took a role at one of the largest storage providers focusing on unstructured data the past decade, only having switched to the server side of the house 2 months ago. My basic advice is you just have to jump in. the more you educuate yourself the better. there's a huge opportunity in the tech space today when it comes to all flavors of AI and Data Science.
@BasementBrandon thank you so much for taking the time to answer. I hope to have the instinct you’ve had to eventually have success in the business. I’ve been following you for years and truly appreciate your content, you add value to the space. Have a great day brother.
I wish you would try the Vivo Motus against these as I did the same test with my bench and the Vivos just didnt move at all (but I might also have a more grippier bench)
I tried the vivos that I had and they slid right off, but they've been worn so I'm guessing the tread isn't as grippy.
@@BasementBrandon yeah the primus lite are very slippery compared to the newer Motus Strength.