How America could become a dictatorship in 10 years | Jared Diamond
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Much like in marriage, you also have to have political compromise in a country.
During the last few decades, American elected representatives and our electorates succeeded in reaching compromise about difficult issues. However, political compromise seems to be breaking down today.
This breakdown, Diamond posits, is the "most serious" problem the United States faces because it could precipitate the rise of a dictatorship in the country.
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JARED DIAMOND
Jared Diamond, a noted polymath, is Professor of Geography at the University of California, Los Angeles. Among his many awards are the U.S. National Medal of Science, Japan's Cosmos Prize, a MacArthur Foundation Fellowship, a Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction, and election to the U.S. National Academy of Sciences. He is the author of the international best-selling books Guns, Germs, and Steel; Collapse; Why Is Sex Fun?; The World Until Yesterday; and The Third Chimpanzee, and is the presenter of TV documentary series based on three of those books.
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TRANSCRIPT:
JARED DIAMOND: Let's talk about compromise, both personal compromise and national compromise. In a marriage, you have to make compromises. A friend of mine with a happy marriage said the best you can hope for in a marriage is agreement on 80 percent. If you agree on 80 percent, that's fantastic. Nobody is ever going to agree on 99 percent. And so every couple is going to have to compromise about something. Maybe they agree about sex, children, and money, but they got to compromise on the in-laws. Maybe they agree on in-laws, sex, and money, but they disagree about what they're going to have for breakfast. So you have to have compromise in a marriage. You also have to have to have compromise in a country.
It's especially the essence of a democracy. This is something worth restating for the United States today because during much of my lifetime our elected representatives and our electorates succeeded in reaching compromise about difficult issues. But political compromise is sadly breaking down today. The most recent congresses in the United States have passed fewer laws than any Other Congress in American history. They cant reach agreement. In the 1980s President Reagan and the Democratic House leader, Tip O'Neill - they disagreed strongly in their politics but they respected each other and they reached compromises. And they got big pieces of legislation passed. The legislation was not exactly what Tip O'Neill wanted. It wasn't what Ronald Reagan wanted. But it was a satisfactory compromise. And they'd pass some legislation. Nowadays our Congress is not passing legislation. Our executive, our president is at loggerheads with the lower house of Congress. Within each political party, there are the radical and the centrist wings.
Our legislature, our executive, our odds with our judiciary, the legislature of the state of West Virginia-- don't laugh when I say this-- but the legislature of West Virginia has impeached every justice on the Supreme Court of West Virginia. Why? Supposedly because they spend $30,000 to buy new sofas for their office. But there are more fundamental things. There is breakdown of compromise between the state government and national government. My state, California, is busy suing the federal government because the federal government is busy suing the state of California. So political compromise is breaking down in the United States today. We can discuss the reasons for it. But to me, that is the most serious problem United States faces. It's the only problem that could precipitate the United States into the end of democracy and into a dictatorship in the next decade. The United States is not the first country in human history to have a breakdown of political compromise.
Other countries have faced it as well. An example that I experienced firsthand was the South American country of Chile, where I lived in 1967. Chile has been the most democratic country in Latin America. When I moved to Chile in 1967, and my Chilean friends wanted to explain to the American visitor what our country is like, my Chilean friends said we are not like those other Latin American countries. We are a democracy. We know how to govern ourselves. That was 1967. But Chile was in the middle of a decline of political compromise, which exploded in 1973 with a military coupe. The military government stayed in power for 17...
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That dude looks like president Lincoln
id say theyre pretty far ahead of the 10 year schedule right now
Give over
@@ciaran_telfer_18 what?
This just keeps aging well
@Caleb S it’s happening now
@@DouchebagT seems like it. I'm on the right and I don't want a dictator. It just seems like the oligarchs have driven us all apart. There is a massive call on both sides for authoritarianism
You assume we are a democracy when, in fact, the United States is demonstrably an oligarchy (see the Princeton & Northwestern University paper).
It is all about illusion. The same is true in any other country with the representative democracy - by definition it is not a real democracy. It may appear so to some as long as there are no significant social conflicts. Compromise is not always what it appears to be either - confederates have been made to compromise eventually by arguments of steel, lead and gunpowder.
We reached the stage now when what appeared to be a stable Western civilization is shaken in its foundation by forces of globalism and what I call immune disorder - huge parts of the academia, political class and media just hate the West to the core for what is construed as major sins as if there was a civilization that did not stand with its ankles in blood. Big part of it is that the new media (well not that new anymore but still) allow anybody and his dog to stir in the bucket of public opinion. Often very unpleasant things happen after that with mob destroying livelihoods of people for no apparent reason. An example: the sack of Ronald Sullivan Jr. Weinstein may have done terrible things, we will have court finding this out, legal advice is a hallmark of civilization tho and rule of mob is not.
@VobisPacem no it's a oligarchy
Bush family Kennedy's Roosevelts Clinton's
Countless multi generational senators governor's etc families
No it's a oligarchy
We are not a true democracy we're a de facto oligarchy but nor would I argue that we should be a direct democracy either. Something more libertarian that completely neuters the federal government and restricts the state governments from passing any more authoritarian measures on a people who do best when they're left the hell alone and are free.
Its a republic you fool
It is a republic. Constitution doesn’t mention democracy other than democratic freedom to choose.
The problem isn't about the lack of compromise. Both parties (the elected officials in the Washington DC bubble) agree on economic policies, which is basically deregulation of the market, of wallstreet, the massive military-industrial complex, tax breaks for the rich, outsourcing of jobs, campaign contributions from massive corporations and the wealthy. The disagreement between the parties is mostly on social issues. The government (people who are supposed to serve the interests of the American people) has been bought out by the wealthy in this country. They no longer serve us. We live in an oligarchy not a democracy. This cannot stand.
Lyle
The reason for big money in politics is because the majority of voters will not elect a candidate who doesn’t spend a lot of money to advertise him/herself (and advertise against his/her opponent).
The blame is entirely on us, the voters!
@Gemein Hardd stupidity and GREED in equal proportion
When even the American flag is made in China, something is woefully wrong.
If knowledge is power, and we the people are receiving less knowledge and are being cutoff from power than yes this can be expected.
How does the oligarchy regulating itself stop itself
It is a oligarchy
But everything you said is their conditioned narrative
Same with the wall and conservative narratives
Allende’s democracy didn’t “decay”, it was forcibly overthrown by the Americans. Seems like a pretty important part to leave out
Yes - also noteworthy, the role of USA neoliberal economists in restructuring the post coup Chilean economy to benefit capital
Have you seen state of siege? Thats probably the best film explaining the logistics of how the world is run. Its filmed in chile in french with english subtitles. Its not the US jew Hollywood movie.
@@yabyum108 USAID, also running logistics of current biowarfare now
socialist democracy isn't democracy
@@Adrian-qi5ii so Canada and European nations are all socialists?
The problem with compromise is everyone has to have something they are willing to lose.
Think about the gun control movement. How often does the left EVER suggest loosening up a gun law, in exchange for tighter restrictions somewhere else? It would be SO EASY to suggest legalizing short barreled shotguns (perfect for home defense), in exchange for a background check requirement on all gun purchases. The left won't do it.
It's always "give us some of what we want, or give us all of what we want." That's how the left defines compromise. The desires and wishes of the right wing are never considered.
CerebralDreams
We can never have an adult conversation about gun control. Period. On either side the response is a vehement NO! Personally I lean a lean a little left on the issue, but I don’t think it’s that simple, nor do I care to infringe on a responsible person. These are not the ones, however, that go around killing kids
@@jlw35cudvm Bullshit, it's been nothing but giving on the side on gun owners. Ever since the National Firearms Act of 1938 we have been surrendering our right to keep and bear arms. We have a shit ton of gun control and the left only wants more. But it's never enough for the left. They won't stop until all guns are banned. That is why today we so no more gun control.
It also helps if the half point between each view point is this a half-apocalypse, a half-genocide or a half-human rights violation.
Sometimes compromises is nothing short than being complicit in evil.
@@Raso719 Half of a zombie apocalypse is better than a full one, am I right?!
As Boss Tweed once said: "I don't care who does the votin', as long as I get to do the nominatin'!"
Our warmongering oligarchs do all the nominating today, which is why our choices of who to vote for are usually so terrible. Lawrence Lessig has done some great work outlining this problem.
Frederic Bastiat uh, he's not the asshole here. You are.
Electronic voting machines are owned by casinos so dont work. Totally fake elections now.
@@spiritinthesky572 help me find some sources on this?
I guess it would've ruined his story to mention how the US actually orchestrated the downfall of Chilean democracy?
or more likely it *just wouldn't do*
*Richard M Nixon
My dad lived in Chile when it was happening and hes told me everything about the shitty conditions and pain and torture that he and his people went through.
Yeah, gotta love that revisionist history, gotta frame it in the Liberal Class Collaborationism idea; that both average workers and the business owners are on the same power footing and 'just need to compromise' all the while ignoring who really holds the power; the owners (aka Capitalists). So when a socialist wins an election fair and square, the people who didn't want them to win just flip over the board and change the rules; you cannot compromise the people who know what they have to lose and aren't willing to part with it.
Im sorry but chille wasnt the best democracy in the area, it was URUGUAY , and was the only developed nation of the area, ALSO those dictatorships that that spread all over South America where back up and enforced by the USA
So it wasnt just that they wanted power and just took it at will hey where pretty we’ll supported by the biggest military the world has ever seen
Drinking game for every compromoise... drunk in 60 seconds.
Troll
Well it didn't even take 10 years.
where? in china?
@@Adrian-qi5ii America
@@terrorgaming459 when?
You’re over here calling america under trump a dictatorship when people living under a real dictatorship are dreaming they lived here lol
Lolz America has been doing this since many years ago. Citizen like us has to shut up and pay tax for government to use on military advance.
Seems like a conspicuous omission, not mentioning that the military coup in Chile was U.S.-backed.
The US role was practically non-existent.
@@donjindra That is in contradiction to even *conservative* American historian's account. The following page just sums up one continent out of a planet-ful of election interference.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America
Danny M, So you're saying that if a country's government is corrupt or unstable, it's okay to interfere in its policy. Good thing the Russians are taking care of the US elections these days then.
The american government and intelligence services had a big part in the chilean coup
It was not all because of a lack of compromise
ye was the worst example he could find
The US had the role of cheerleaders on the sidelines. I wouldn't call that big.
@@donjindra
The CIA overthrew Allende and installed Pinochet.
@@grmpEqweer , No it did not. The Chileans did that.
The Soviets were also licking their chops to get in there and do some of what they did best. Pinochet was a pig and Pope John Paul II called him out, but was the alternative going to be better? I don't know the answer, but do we believe the leftists would have treated dissidents better?
Chile's decay was with the 'Help' of the CIA (of that era)...
Jeff Farmer the US has leveled tons of nations. The US gets offended when Russia intervenes in our elections yet we intervene in foreign elections all the time.
@@parmesanstark2875 The US is not offended by the Russians. All the outrage was invented to attack Trump.
You clearly haven't been paying attention if you think the outrage is real or even directed at Russia.
@@MetricImperialist , you are most likely correct-!!! Both establishment Dems and Repugs HATE HIM because he will 'call-them' on their BULL$HIT-!!!!!!!
@@parmesanstark2875 , you speak TRUTH, Sir-!!!!!!! America, does what most imperialistic empires do... But- I DOUBT that will last forever-!!!
Metric Imperialist do not patronize me sir. The Russian interference was real if you want to see the outrage just look at the MSM.
It still blows my mind how these guys will talk about recent history in other countries in the western hemisphere and don't say one word about US involvement in said country's political affairs, to say nothing of propping up right-wing militias undertaking military coups. Another win for america's never-ending amnesia.
So just blame the US like those countries had no other problems.
Propping is right wing militia? What are you talking about?
@@6dhypercube740 social Democratic state
Cute play on words
It's was a autocracy in the making before the CIA helped with the coup
Yikes..........
This is nonsense at so many levels. For the fact that judicially-regulated testing of political processes is part of the US constitution to the statement that 'the Chilean government sent new world records for sadism and torture', this old man's ramblings are not worthy of inclusion as a 'thought piece'.
Yes, because the US doesn't torture or is killing innocent people in any country.
Voting doesn't fix things when all we have is a choice between one liar with an "R" after their name or the other liar with a "D" after theirs. We are fucked. And we know it. The depth of cynicism with which we are treated is extraordinary.
This is what dictators want: Apathy. They want you to believe there is no difference so you won't vote.
Vote for another party
@Liverpool 11 Don't need to END the electoral collage, just balance it out. It's just about finding a balance, which is why radical thoughts and us v them ideas as well as 'if they do this, they'll go the whole 9 yards and do this instead!' thoughts do nothing to help find an actual solution.
10 years? Oh boy do I have some news for you
Lets hear it
We have to talk to each other rather than at each other. At the end of the day we must remember. We are all Americans.
United we stand divided we will surely fall.
I think part of that issue has to do with people spending way too much time in their own respective bubbles. What's even scarier is when people from one bubble starts to claim that everything else said in that other bubble is not true...
Cuckoo Phendula a whole lot of this came from America being sold on cars instead of rail for transportation. Cars may give us great freedom, but the isolate us from each other. Trains do not.
It has also been worsened by the cellphone. We have become more and more isolated every year.
Television watching is also to blame. We used to visit and talk and sing and dance with each other instead.
I'd add in the internet to your list as well. As it gives everyone access to more information we could ever dream of, the irony is that people tend to look for groups and information that already adheres to their cognitive biases. You probably heard about them being called "echo chambers."
Cuckoo Phendula agreed, I think that public media platforms like Facebook and Twitter have done a lot of damage too. People write the nastiest things, that they would not dare utter in person.
They call it blowing off steam.
Why not write a song or a poem or a letter instead? I write lots of letters that I burn, and it helps sooo much.
The more things that are regulated by the government, the more things that we need to compromise on. But on things the government leaves alone, there is no need to compromise - I can have my choice and you can have your radically different choice.
"don't ask don't tell" was a nice compromise. Jim Crow was a nice compromise. 3/5 was a nice compromise.
Yep
Yep. Should have never started any of those paths. Gave an inch and look at the shitty mess it is now.
Well, some of those actually were "nice" compromises that allowed for difficult issues to improve and be dealt with. It's easy to look back with the benefit of hindsight (and genuine moral progress that has occurred in the past decades) and judge decisions from our perspective, rather than the context of the time.
Sure, DADT was discriminatory and required many soldiers serving their country to suppress part of their identity, but it DID allow gay soldiers in the military--clearly superior to preventing them from serving, or exposing and expelling them. Jim Crow lows that patently sought to disadvantage and segregate black people feel even more objectionable... But in the post-Civil War period, with angry white southerners deeply upset at the concept that black people might actually deserve to be treated as human beings, it did at least pay lip service to their rights. Black people COULD vote--if they were literate and/or had means to pay a poll tax. Schools and libraries for black citizens were SUPPOSED to be built and maintained--if there was money left in the local budget.
@@zerekdodson1095 Here's the problem:
You rightly point out that hindsight is an unfair judge, but you are making a similar mistake by sneaking in counterfactual arguments: you assume that these compromises yielded the best possible outcome at the time, but you can't know that!
In fact you could say that about everything in history: Goering wanted to spend more efforts killing more Jews even quicker, while others disagreed with this emphasis on the final solution. You could argue that Hitler's "compromise" saved some Jews, but you have no idea what else could have happened between a cadre of psychopathic racists absent this compromise. There might have been a coup that gave the Allies an great opening to end the war much sooner
Voted officials could be voted out more easily.... Or required to have a percentage of thier votes as be bipartisan agreement
That's a good looking trex tie you have there Mr. Diamond
More than a lack of compromise, I think Diamond is right to pinpoint lack of voting as a major problem. Too many people stay on the sidelines and then complain when things are bad. Stop complaining and VOTE!
Respectfully, as a person who has never voted..and doesn't complain about it. With this logic, it's like the frog in boiling water theory. Everyone's arguing over a spot and the temperature with the outcome being the same. Question is, are you staying in the pan or out on the sidelines watching the flames get turned up higher?
Only if they are smart enough to think about their vote, we don't need more stupid voters.
Jared always has that infectious smile and such a friendly voice. He could talk to me about the apocalypse and I'd be calm.
Politics in my country seem to be going the same way and i'm a bit stressed about it
I’m in America and laws are getting passed by the Supreme Court and it’s getting worse.
So is the fact that we, the people never get to vote on any legislation that Congress passes against us; and a Republic calls for the people to vote on legislation--It's NOT the sole decision by the POLITICIAN'S holding office to pass legislation, without our votes.. Therefore, I demand that We the People get to vote on all new legislation!
the Abolitionist did not compromise
We’re well on our way with everything trump is doing... no question
john smith how so
Tom how about his blatant and continuous law breaking? How about his publicly stated desire to limit free speech and punish protesters? How about his hate of the press? How about his taking from the poor and middle class and giving to the disgustingly rich?
In this alone, you have a wanna be dictator.
@Nickie McNichols What laws has he broken? How has he tried to limit free speech and punish protesters?
His hate of the press is just his opinion and can be fair in certain scenarios, even a inside video between private conversations with a head director of CNN admited multiple times that they are just putting bad press on trump for ratings, not that I support the guy but it's blantanly wrong to unnecessarily make up shit. I am curious to the taking from the poor and middle class and giving it to the rich part, could you please clarify all 3.
All of the stuff you said could define certain other politicans as dictators too dictatorship is when you have an iron fist in the political system and no one has the balls to really stop you. Not breaking laws or giving the money to the rich, that's just corruption, and limting free speech really depends, but it can be seen as an act of dictatorship.
Tom , well tell me how you feel about this as a tax payer Tom? Whenever trump goes to maralago ( his resort) or all these golfing trips ( his courses) we the tax payers pay for these trips. Now why are we paying “Him” indirectly through tax’s , this is against the law. 2. There are countless stories like this that I could write all day , so just tell me and I’ll give you some more reasons your wonderful president is fuckin g everyone in the ass!
@@johnsmith-so5do Pretty sure that we had to pay for every president's golfing trips even Obama's lol
I said in my previous comment that I don't support the guy no need to get all sassy about it.
Any other stuff other than trump wasting some tax money on his trips? cause the US wastes a shit load of money on other shit as well.
Question also is, is that tax money really being wasted when he just wants some down time? and the US government has to protect their president and thus use more tax money? Which tbh depending on what it is can be ridicules like his tower in newyork that blocks traffic and wastes a bunch of money just protecting it.
America became a military dictatorships years ago, when the Vietnam war happened and further ridiculous wars happened after that.
Lol you dont even know what dictatorship means
It ended in January, 1981.
Voltaire was in favor of an enlightened monarchy that had ethics. He said that the masses were incapable of electing politicians to govern them. He was finally accepted into the Pantheon of those who fostered the revolution that saw 3,000 put on Mademoiselle Guillotine by Robespierre who was the last put on the guillotine.
How does one enforce ethical behavior in the enlightened monarch?
@@squireobAsk Voltaire.
it only took one year
Liberal fascism indeed
Australia has compulsory voting. I reckon that makes more sense. If only 10% vote that is not enough data to get a general consensus of opinions. So I reckon compulery voting is more democratic and fair cos everybody's opinion counts.
Compromise is not just about allowing one to lose parts, but also to be able to bargain for things to gain.
One of the discussions that were somewhat interesting is that the removal of pork riders from bills, where tangental funding for state initiatives were added on federal bills, was a significant factor that increased the difficulty of compromise and bipartisanship participation. It caused bills to become much more black and white, and there ended up being far fewer ameliorating effects for the constituents.
Step 1) President declares himself dictator, being head of the military he has the guns on his side
Step 2) military goes along with it
@UCJNumlSVmbqvYB2K7OUPmmw ^ we're not all that rude but what he said about "we all have guns" and "the constitution"
@Citizen Four I remember a lot of talk from the conservative crowd about violence during the 2012 election and I'm still waiting for that conservative revolution.
I'm not sure the military would go along with it. A civil war might invite foreign powers into the us; it would also he unpredictably destructive.
@Citizen Four You have more guns you say?
Do you have tanks supported by infantry for instance? Do you think your odds are better against the Us militairy. Then the odds of the Sovjets were against the Germans in 1941?
@Citizen Four Then why don't you stand up for the rule of law when king donald and his cronies pisses all over it?
Take a shot everytime he says compromise
Revisiting this episode on the th anniversary, the opposition stopped at nothing to destroy Allende, which prompts the question : is there such a thing as too much democracy??
'Every country has the government it deserves.'
That sounds a lot like blaming the victim, but I get what you mean.
The American public is so apathetic, most wouldn’t even care if America became a dictatorship
More and more would throw away freedom for security, whether it be physical, economic or global.
Look at Maduro, leftist dictator. Look at China, or Russia. They don't have true elections. The left loves a dictator
Those that own the firepower in the US may be a slight minority but not by a lot. Guns vs crying wins.
F G a few hundred idiots with rifles would be blown up from one drone strike, gun owners live in a fantasy land where they think they can stop a tyrannical military
@@elchapojunior3091 Exactly.
People need to realise that this is the case. It's insane to think that a bunch of gun-toting amateurs could take on the sophistication and might of the US military
He likes saying compromise way too much 😂
But yea dictatorship is coming
Dictatorship is better than democracy because not get solve
Thanks for the guide!
Kaiser Mein Kaser!
L.A. has a supermajority of one party. So why bother to vote?
One way of dealing with this is you go vote in their primary and you vote for the candidate that is closest to your position. By doing this you push them in the direction you want. Being a democrat or a republican is only a label it does not prevent you from voting where your vote is most effective.
@Liverpool 11 The democratic system cannot be made perfect. The founding fathers knew this. Without the electoral college, a few high population centers would have complete control over the entire nation. Many of these regions have enormous differences in the way they wish to live. If it weren't for the electoral college giving these people a stake in how they are governed, the country would have broken up long ago.
@Liverpool 11 your analysis of the situation is spot-on. One idea that could resolve a lot of these issues is ranked choice also called instant runoff.
I think you might be interested in the following websites.
www.fairvoteca.org/
www.fairvote.org/
@Liverpool 11 The purpose of the Electoral College was to keep high population states from running roughshod over the low population states. Connecticut, New Hampshire, Delaware, and Rhode Island weren't slave states. They wanted the EC too. And the constitution will be relevant as long as you want the freedom to have conversations like this.
@Liverpool 11 The book White Trash refers to the fact that the rich tend to look down on the lower classes. Something that has happened throughout history and still does. You still do not understand the electoral college because you don't understand the nature of the original colonies. The states did not consider them provinces of a nation, but, a confederation of sovereign nations. They did not want the higher population states having complete control over their affairs any more than, say, South Dakota would want California making all of it's decisions. As for freedoms in those monarchies and such. The fast-marching censorship and authoritarianism taking root will soon do away with that freedom. Congratulations on being so well travelled, though.
There are T-rex on his tie.....I approve.
Thnxs for the Tutorial
Thanks this was a good tutorial
Compromise requires agreement on fundamental beliefs. There are things which you cannot compromise. You start with a firm stand and then compromise.
Life. Life is life, and you must not take a life. (Compromise, like when your life is threatened)
Liberty. We are free to do what we want. But our freedom stops at someone else’s doorstep, and someone else’s life.
Speech (thought). Absolute freedom. (Compromise at the immediate call to harm another). Absolutely do not compel speech (thought).
Freedom of opportunity. We are free to take our shot, but, we are not guaranteed a specific outcome.
One party has walked away from these beliefs. They have instead decided to chase after the same social utopian fantasies that led to the worst human atrocities in human history.
How can we even begin to have compromise when we can’t even agree on free speech?
This entire comments section is exactly what Diamond is talking about.
Including your comment?
@@jamesguinan415 If you like.
@@TheOneWhoMightBe Well, that is irrelevant. I am curious to know if you consider your own comment encompassed in your catch all analysis?
@@jamesguinan415 Sorry, not interested in playing.
@@TheOneWhoMightBe Cool. Glad that you are so above the whole comment section thing...
Your opinions are very much appreciated and worthwhile.
I don't believe "political compromise" would be our downfall. I feel the US is too much of a business owned operation, and the American people love the convenience of every day life. I think the only real way for us to become a dictatorship is in the lines of another depression, when people who think they should be in power make a move to put themselves in power. Or just another country coming in because of lack of government control of that time. In the previous election, the American people showed the government, social media, and the 1% that we still have control.
The 1% have lives so removed from ours that they don't care what happens in voting season or not. Do you know what it is like to be so filthy rich you can buy time?
You don't care about what the little man does with his insignificant slip of paper. In any case they know that in the current climate, all we do is swing from one side of the metronome to the other. There's no real progress, just banging our heads on different sides of the same wall.
The winners always convince the losers they’re making all the right moves or another way of putting it: the people really in control convince the people that have no control that they really have all the control.
You’re not in control man. You’re a fool for thinking so.
We need it
Haha if you dont like your own government then it's your own fault. The reason being because you didn't vote lol. Just think about that logically for a moment and what it means.
What if we run out of option or both the candidates are bad?
Lose the electoral college, lobbying, private funds and anything else and see moral change.
Could never happen in America without death and blood, lots of blood.
At 1:10 he is wrong. We have not achieved compromise in a loooong time. We had a faction which wanted to do nothing, plus beef up the executive, and we had a faction which wanted leftward movement, plus beefing up the executive. We got leftward movement and a beefed up executive.
If there are two policies, 1 is: I want a in 10 years and 2 is: I don’t want to change, actually we were better off 10 years ago, then saying a will happen in 20 years is not a compromise, it is a win for 1 and a loss for 2. There is no potential for compromise on a debate between movement and no movement.
Slowing the movement faction means they still achieve all of their wants and the static faction achieves nothing.
After the first 50 years the history of this country has been a change ideology vs a conservation ideology. The conservation ideology has never won, because it cannot, the best it can hope for is to lose slowly. “Conservatives” have not conserved anything.
Therefore in such a system compromise is impossible, what we have called compromise is more accurately described as encroachment, there is no give, only varying amounts of take.
If you are robbed you cannot “compromise” over how much is stolen. Unidirectional action limited in scope by the victim is not compromise, it is a loss.
A compromise is a deal, if that robber offered 600 dollars for your phone, you could negotiate and compromise on the price. This can be a win for both parties
If your neighbor said “I own 20% of your property” and you “compromise” on him only owning 10%, that is extortion not compromise. He would have to offer something you view as equally valuable for it to be a compromise.
I see a lot of these comments claiming this is because we are not a democracy but instead are an oligarchy, imagining these problems do not befall democracies.
We are not a democracy, not a democratic republic, we are a constitutional republic, though much more bloated than we used to be.
The problem of one group encroaching on the other is more exacerbated in a democracy than any other system, and as our republic is among the most democratic nations in the world we are hit with this problem particularly hard.
The goal of preventing encroachment and only having compromise is not really possible in our current state of movement vs conservation. This can only be achieved when both sides want to move in opposite directions and have equal strength, it is like balancing on a knifes edge.
A nation is best built on the static model, as everyone is entitled to the nation they are born into, and not as entitled to change it. Then major change should be made very difficult, only possible with 80% support, so that no faction can encroach on another, rather the nation moves as a whole only when clearly necessary to all voters.
If you notice, I basically just described how our nation used to be. Most of the authoritarian/controversial laws and policies in our nation today are actually violations of our constitution.
Missing one big point in all this, "why?"... The end of the conversation when people are no platformed and feel they have no voice they stop participating and thing become worse and even more violent. In the last few years, the conversation started to become you agree with me in all things or you are evil, the conversations started to break down and now we have, "pick a side." None of this helps in the least.
Groundbreaking information here: vote and complain.
And other stuff
A far north east Australian accent maybe. Although i think far north east Australia is somewhere near boston, usa. Doesnt even sound like an aussis's arse to me
Voting is important. A system that brings forth candidates worthy of being voted for would be helpful. A system that provides relevant and trustworthy information in order for people to cast informed votes seems like a must for democracies as well.
Politicians should be held accountable for false promises before getting elected, Lying as Politician should be equally punished as lying under oath, yet something like this we’ll never see because it’ll get rid of corruption and provide a solid democratic system…
Side Note... The T-Rex on his tie is actually incorrect. The vertical T-Rex model was replaced after further investigation with a "balanced" position. Where the angle of the tail is horizontal and the body is pitched forward...
Don’t do that, don’t give me hope
Everything's going to be fine
Texas Viking haha good joke
You’re right man! Even the discussion of these topics on media is causing fear and hysteria to bend the argument to the will of the would be offenders. We just need to realize it’s okay, and to not worry, if we disregard the fear they compose they have no power.
Things are almost always getting better. And people always think things are getting worse. And every US president is rumored to be making plans to cancel the election and be a dictator.
Well... I certainly didn't expect that kind of accent/pronunciation...
When a game is unregulated and "free" without any rules, it allows others to set thier own "rules" that benefit them. When someone protests they will utter "How dare you take my freedom away."
Only if they have a government protecting it
Look at what happened to standard oil
Now look at today when there should be hundreds of oil companies within the US alone there's only a few
Government merely got a cut of it while simultaneously controling the market sector via regulations (snuffing out competition allowing a uninterrupted cash flow)
Recreate the conditions of the Roman Republic, Weimar Republic, Revolutionary France, etc. (Treating veterans like shit, rampant degeneracy, a financial elite effectively owning the nation, corrupt institutions, etc.) You are going to recreate the conditions that birth new Caesars, Hitlers, and Napoleons. I'm not even saying that as a bad thing. Just the historical reality of the situation.
I am waiting folks!
Daddy!!!
It'll take as much blood as you spilled to stay in power, to get it here, sir.
The American military has never been involved in politics🙄🙄🙄😂😂
Seems it'll take a lot less than 10 years
What do you mean, they already are.
[laughs in CIA]
Lol
Thinking politics makes a difference... lol
Why is Foch in the thumbnail alongside dictators. He was a French General.
EDIT: Apparently it’s Pétain, however he is still a french general and not a dictator.
it's not Foch but Philippe Pétain, another ww1 general who was the leader of Vichy France during ww2
Yep, I think Willy Coppens is right, it is Pétain.
Willy Coppens
Thanks for the clarification.
But he’s still Not a dictator like the others
For a moment I heard 'Concubine' 😂
I would like to welcome the constitution at this time
This is what compromise looks like in the USA:
Democrats: we should be providing free or affordable education.
Republicans: No, too expensive and unfairly taxes people. Let's compromise.
Solution: A student loan program with no consumer protections, no bankruptcy protections. This way the banks can make a bundle by selling these loans which can then go to Wall Street so investors can speculate on them.
Democrats: That's a great idea.
Problems it inflated tuition, encourages bad recruiting, predatory lending, and bankrupted three generations.
Shall we talk about other compromises which ended up being huge gifts to corporations and don't solve the problem, like the ACA?
How about fire all congress members who receive corporate lobby money.
Fire them all regardless
The system is a oligarchy
The education part is easy from successful experience
Change the curriculum to get students interested to the point they will school themselves outside of school hours
As for student debt liquation needs to happen
And remove ATI and NAFTA era regulations and replace the tax system with a consumer based one
That way they are paid well on get by job thus a loan isn't unpayble
Shall we talk about the ACA well yes since you can’t seem to know not to look a gift horse in its mouth. The ACA is probably why you’re probably incurable at all. It’s also why YOU have actual medical rights. Of course what do Repubs offer us instead…. NOTHING… Dude you got a lot to realize because there is a lot you don’t know
Army has never ever involved in politics during pre-Bolshevik Tsar’s Russia or pre Franco Spain either. However never happened doesn’t mean never would not happen ever. There is always an chance for an military coup d'etat in every democracy including USA. Cesar had used the army to overthrown Roman republic by passing the famous rubicon river and invading Rome and it can always happen in any failing democracy under populist hegemony with Unproportionaly extreme inequality of wealth distribution. We should never forget that the path that made trump president was happened only because of pro corporate oligarchy class of politicians like bush dynasty, Clintons or Obama types. People need class aware politicians that has red lines about issues like equal distribution of wealth,universal healthcare for all and restrictions and limitations on ownership of fire arms and ban on ownership of military grade semi automatic assault rifles.
The Pro-Corporate oligarchy started with LBJ (60's after the military industrial complex had John F. Kennedy assassinated) and was solidified by Reagan being the first "celebrity" politician, thus turning the game of politics from a foreground to expose and flesh out political ideology to this twisted, sad, shit-slinging popularity contest.
It will never happen in the US we have drones.
Not trying to fire start here but when he says “los Angeles is one of the most important cities in the us”. How and why is that the case and to whom?
If you want to put it in purely economic terms, the economy of CA is larger than most countries and Los Angeles is one of its major cities :
www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/
Restricting votes? How? Project Veritas showed it was easy enough to vote on behalf of anybody (including Eminem) without an ID...
On the other hand, restriction of freedom of speech in universities is very concerning, as was the UK censorship of populist candidates from the working class for MEP elections...
Jerry mandering and requiring super specific Id to vote. That’s how.
@@MrBetaJacques "Super specific ID" like the one you need to work, or drive anyway? How is it "super specific" ? All states should require that, which is not the case unfortunately and leads to massive frauds.
Democrat election commissioner Alan Schulkin even admitted it when he thought the camera was off: ruclips.net/video/jUDTcxIqqM0/видео.html
@@europeansovietunion7372 Perhaps it's because many right wing parties blame minorities for all their issues. Right wing parties in both the US and Europe both perpetuate the idea that the white race was the shining beacon for the rest of humanity when in fact white imperialism is the cause of most of the problems in the world today. Your leaders are looking out for you because Europeans are no longer going to be the most powerful people in the world anymore. Indians and the Chinese are both competing for the spot as the number one world economy aling with the US.
@@MrBetaJacques Either you're an ignorant American or you've never voted before in your life. Real democratic countries require very specific and often multiple pieces of ID.
Voter ID is not about Voter ID but putting up as many roadblocks as legaly possible to prevent minorities from voting. Becuase minorities have a preference to vote againts a party that uses them as scrapegoats to gin up fear, and votes. Southern Strategy anyone?
I always listen to Jared Diamond's entire talks - he's an excellent speaker in my opinion. Very interesting topic. And yes, people need to VOTE! Is is SO difficult to attend a polling booth? Maybe the US should switch to compulsory voting, like in Australia.
FlowerGrower NO WAY!
COMPULSORY VOTING is not the way to go as it brings out the stupid and the donkeys. Politically uneducated (and generally uneducated for that matter) people vote with feelings and their wallet. It enables politicians to "buy" these voter's favour.
A quick fix or tax break sweetener is always a good deal for the shortsighted.
I believe it's a significant thing to help decide your communitie's future, politically, economically, socially and culturally. It takes a lucid insightful knowledgeable person to participate in this process.
Ps. I'm an Australian 👌😊
Compulsory voting is authoritarian asf
I think it'll come in a year.
Was this written 80 years ago?
Not only have politics become more polarized and less interested in compromise but people are losing regard for our republic form of government generally. We voted in a president who hated the press, wanted to jail his rival, and called the election rigged ahead of time, with about a third of the country's enthusiastic support regardless of the alternatives.
It's also worth noting that the extremes on the right and left think more like each other than moderates on their own side.
already feel like it today.
Then you obviously are out of touch with reality
Not sure how are we going to fight big challenges like climate change through compromises though.
I suspect the uncomfortable reality might be "We will let you talk about it, garner funding and some public attention towards it but do not expect the government to involve itself in taking action."
This is certainly true if more Presidents hold similar beliefs regarding climate change that Donald Trump does.
Some people don’t believe in global warming, so the first issue would be to depoliticize it and let the scientists debate it, politicians could make a good compromise by not fear mongering for voter clout, secondly would be to have a good goal in mind for what your funding for, no one wants to fund money for a solution that doesn’t address the problem, or over exaggerates the problem.
@@lifewasgiventous1614 You cannot depoliticize a subject involving the life of million of people (all humanity actually) just because some people don't believe there is a problem. As you said, we should consider where resources must be redirected and what actions should be done, and that's the reason why climate change is a political subject. Your second premise worries me, because there is no debate between scientists, they are not debating climate change and they have already said what needs to be done: a significant reduction in greenhouse gases emissions. Having said that, I would agree with your second point if it wouldn't imply scientists are over exaggerating the problem.
Erick
Fair points you’ve made, however the whole consensus part is still in debate, that’s what I mean by depoliticize it, every time it’s mentioned that there are a great number of scientist who are against global warming alarm, I’m told they work for “big oil ” or that there science deniers, or that those who even listen to the other side are science deniers. That and it seems every storm now is the result of global warming in some way. I think the general populous needs to be a bit more aware than just hearing the false 97% statistic, or that storms and hurricanes are now happening because of global warming.
Who is the guy on the far right in the thumbnail of the video?
Philippe Pétain
My friend, what makes you think it hasn’t already been one for the last 75 years.
Ok bets are on: US dictatorship before brexit?
Or civil war before both?
I'm actually looking forward to a civil war
Probably civil war and then dictatorship!
@@phil488pista9 that's how it mostly goes..
@@lotz-o-muzic1608 no. Wait for more guns..
@@lotz-o-muzic1608 You think you're looking forward to a civil war until Russia, China, India, Africa, and the middle East join in and divide up U.S soil
Did he say *could* become a dictatorship? I thought it *already is* an autocracy. The UK is the same. 🤔
It’s already happening.
This might be fine and true an all but have you seen that badass tie?? With Tyrannosauruses on it? OG.
Jared Diamond is a world renowned historian and author of one of most impressive books I’ve ever read. He has mad a substantial contribution to the world’s body of knowledge. His ideas matter. His tie does not.
the "p" is silent in the word coup.
That's all you have to say after watching this video?
I am puzzled.
@@jaywulf the guy in the video talking like he knew what he was saying, and couldn't pronounce the words that he was talking about.... just made me wonder, and comment, is all.
Compromise is each giving alittle in return for alittle of each others desires/ wants/ needs. Want to live among family/ friends/community, then it's the best option we each have to exercise or remain alone, hermit lifestyle.
Just because the most recent Congress has passed a lot fewer laws is not necessarily a bad thing.
I do agree that compromise is necessary but not everything needs to be solved by passing a lot of laws.
I've got nothing to say , I'll just laugh lmao
When one side pushes and pushes and pushes and the other side is expected to just retreat and ignore their own long held traditional beliefs, of course you’re going to get no compromise. The side that pushes emerged as zealots long ago, and their relentless advance has begun forcing zealotry in those defending if they want to survive.
"Coop"?
Hearing this educated, well-spoken man mis-pronounce "coup" (as in a military coup) made me take him just a little less seriously.
Dude speaks like 7 languages...how many do you speak?
@@Jophus19 Irrelevant. My level of multilingualism is unrelated to his error.
That being said, I openly admit to nitpicking. It's my hobby.
In actuality, I'm sure he's much smarter than me. I have known well-educated and articulate people who pronounce "gesture" with a "hard G" sound--like "guess-chur." And every now and then I find that I have been mis-pronouncing a word all my life.
So there are probably very few that it doesn't apply to. "Even monkeys fall from trees." (a Japanese proverb)
Just ask the japanese americains interned in the Prison Camps in america during the Second World War ...what government they had them in prison...
As expected there's no single positive comment down here.
Kam Kamaton It’s either people are completely nihilistic in their POV concerning the United States or they are supporting another regime (such as Russia or China or some idealistic government that has failed [or has never been started]. There’s no realization of how humans act en masse. Everyone searches for the “good” in a country or a political party but EVERY political movement has done underhanded deals or has done socially unacceptable things. {hence forth my optimistic nihilism} There’s no bad guys or good guys in the sense of government (or lack there of), so people are stuck in the limbo state of posting things that “coulda-shoulda-woulda” happened and coming to the consensus that there’s nothing they can truly do to change other people.
You must be new to the internet.
"could become""??? huh???? we're basically there, son.
How tf is this a dictatorship tho🤔
Yeah, it's not like we have freedom and rights. We can vote too. So except those things, you might be right. Don't throw in the towel when it is not over.
It is mind boggling how stupid your comment is. Please do not breed.
It helps when you pay attention, kid.Let's begin with Trump, and the cooperation of his Shill Attny Gen REFUSING to comply with LAWFUL SUBPOENAS...
don't talk about shit you don't know anything about, kid. It makes you look really dumb.
they "vote" in North Korea and Russia and China too.
Why do you people talk about things you know nothing about?
Who wears dinosaurs on their tie?
Yes people, he keeps repeating the word compromise, because compromise IS the solution.