Should You Upgrade Your Royal Enfield Meteor 350 to a SuperMeteor 650?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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Now with the launch of the Super Meteor 650 it's time to ask should you upgrade your Meteor 350 to the new bike? This video isn't really a press release on the new bike (there's plenty of those already), but specifically a comparison video between the existing Meteor and the new Super Meteor 650. Please let me know what you think about the new bike in the comments...
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I was out on my 350 yesterday and it was great for what I want. Do I lust after a super meteor... Sure I do. But I'm so happy with the 350. The Rebel and the Vulcan are ugly as hell compared to the Super Meteor. They're efficient rides, but don't have the romance of the Enfield. With Enfields however improbable they look, they are a real surprise to ride.
Hi ArtDeco, glad you had a nice ride on the 350, I sure enjoyed mine. I also lust after the SuperMeteor and I'm not sure if I can resist the temptation 😂. Nothing really competes with the charm of Royal Enfield does it...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist No you get more smiles per pound than a triumph and a bit more of a genuine experience. Pus I'm not happy with having a 12000 pound bike sitting on the drive for an hour a few hours a weeks use. Even if the SM is 8000 its still a lot of bike for the money.
I’m sure RE did not want them to compete with each other, two really different bikes, IMO. I see the Super Meteor as more of a long distance/highway bike. Whereas the Meteor 350 is ideal for commuting, back roads, and speed limits 65 and below.
Hi HWY, agreed they look similar but they are different offerings. The Super Meteor probably is Royal Enfield's first long distance tourer. The Himmy is perhaps a little underpowered for highway work whereas this wont be. You're spot on about the Meteor 350s strengths, lovely bike for a Sunday bimble!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist himalyan 450 is on its way 🙏
@@vinay-cj1hx do you think it will be soon? I've heard rumours for a while...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist mid or last 2023 coz 1 and halfh yrs they have been testing supermeteor and now 450 have been spotted sevral time ...21 inch front 16 inch back with 6 gear transmission 🙏
@@vinay-cj1hx 6 gears will make a lot of difference. I'm not sure how they can go from 25 to 40 bhp from 411cc to 450cc however 🤨. Still a brand new engine from RE is something to be excited about...
The 350s are cheap as hell. Better than all the major 125s and cheaper. They are also extremely frugal.
The 650 is for a different use and taste.
Hi Adam, thanks for the comment. The 350s are extremely good value they can be had for £3k with under 1k miles and if you're lucky a few choice extras. I hope the 650 will be under £7k...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yeah I just checked Facebook marketplace and there are a few meteor 350s just under 3k with less that 2k miles. Decent really.
@@Adam-mo2qw a lot of those are cherished examples as well!
The 650 looks great, but I think the weight of the 350 makes it more appealing to me.
Hi Da Bee, that could be a deciding factor for many people. At least I suppose the weight will be low down and there is a low seat height so most will be able to flat foot it. Thanks for the comment.
I've been anticipating the Super Meteor for ages now and was thinking of upgrading from my Meteor when the time came. But based on what I've seen so far, it's unlikely to happen. My reasons are as follows:
1. The additional weight is unacceptable. It will have a higher torque engine which will mean lower peak power at the top end. The result will be much degraded performance over the Interceptor.
2. The Meteor has only a slightly feet-forward and really works but the Super Meteor is a full American-style cruiser. Be warned, this riding position isn't really that comfortable on long runs, at speed. Most people 'touring' on these bikes are only touring to the next coffee shop.
3. The one monumental failure of the 350 Meteor is the screen. I've taken mine off because of the noise and buffeting it creates at ear level. The one on the Super Meteor looks the same. If RE were really serious about *actually* touring on this, they'd offer a properly designed top-half fairing like others do.
4. Although the tank is slightly bigger, the range will be much less because of the higher fuel consumption. I can guarantee getting over 400kms on a tank with the Meteor, but the Super Meteor will be down around 250-300kms.
5. The Meteor is underpowered for long term motorway cruising, but who wants to do that on a motorbike? Take the back roads and enjoy the ride! Speed limits are being reduced across the UK - the Meteor therefore fits the bill.
Hi Andrew, thanks for your comment here some excellent points.
1) The weight is a huge increase but if you were to fit 2-1 exhausts (as available on the Interceptor) you'd drop 15kg off and be down to 226kg. I'm sure someone will already be mocking up a 2-1 for this bike. In stock form yes I think it will be more sluggish than the Interceptor but it will be able to achieve and maintain higher speeds than the Meteor which I suppose is the point.
2) That's a good point, totally feet forward creates a nasty arch in your lower back which isn't fun. I think the reason proper upright adventure bikes are now used a lot for touring is the neutral riding ergonomics. Perhaps its a Sunday cruiser that 'can' be used for touring and that's a better description. There was a rumour that the 'Shotgun 650' was a cruiser with mid postiioned foot controls but perhaps that morphed into the SuperMeteor perhaps it is also to be released at some stage.
3) The screen is awful for me at 5'11'' I had to discard it after trying different aftermarket screens. However this isn't universal, people of different heights had no complaints. They have just taken the screen off the Meteor and bolted it to the SuperMeteor, if not in exact proportions then at least in design. The slit mid screen did nothing on the 350 to alleviate buffeting and I doubt it will here. I would order one without a screen 100% and listen to others experience before adding one.
4) Yes the Meteor 350 is around 200miles before the fuel light comes on. It's a long way. The SuperMeteor will still have good range, you'll probably appreciate the stop to refill if your back is stiff 😊
5) Agreed, pretty much any bike is dull on the Motorway, (Hyabusa an exception 😂)
Thanks for the comments, I'm sure some considering this bike will find it useful!
@Mindful Motorcyclist apparently that weight they quoted is for the base model: So add the backrest, screen and other bits for the top model and it will actually be heavier!
An after thought- Add luggage and a passenger and ground clearance will be really tight.
@@andrewoh1663 Let's hope the weight is low down and you don't feel it too much!
Some good points. Its worth a test ride though. RE often surprises us. The gearing might compensate for any shortcomings. The screen was a dead loss. Too small.
@@andrewoh1663 I have seen the specs it has a new fuel mapping makes similar power and torque but at a slightly higher rpm than the int650, they did it to have a much flatter torque curve so it probably might feel the same or even better at the top end. It is heavy but the weight given in the specs is with 90% fuel and oil, the weight for interceptor in specs is shown without fuel, so the difference is probably only around 20-25 kg heavier than the other 650s.
I already have my name on the waiting list at the dealer where I bought my Meteor. If the price is not too much higher than the Interceptor and Continental, I will trade it in a heartbeat.
Artie you are quick off the blocks aren't you! I am considering doing the same, we all know it's going to be amazing 😊. Are you going for any colour? As I said in the video I will go for whatever comes up if I place an order...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I have the Fireball Red Meteor and the basic green one looks good. When I ordered the Meteor I was also the first on the list and got what I ordered. Yea the Green one will be perfect. Since I've had the Meteor I tried to find someone to make forward controls for it. Looking forward to having real forward controls on the Super.
@@artiecisneros4691 I was on the list for a Bronze Supernova and I ordered in March and was delivered in Nov. In that time I saw 3 red stellar's arrive and leave the showroom destined for other customers and I also had the chance for a blue supernova but turned it down hanging on for the bronze one. This time I'll just get whichever comes soonest, I think colours change over time or at least your take on them does. All 350 colours are nice in their own way!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist
I ordered the Meteor in March of 2021; I was the first on the list. I was asked what my preference was and picked the Fireball Red, but whatever came I was going to have the first choice since I was the first on the list. Fortunately, they had a yellow and a red. They also had the other 2 variants. I just wanted all blacked out except for the tank. This time will be the same, I'm first on the list. Since I live in Southern California, I need the extra pep that the Super will give me. I can always add the extras as I need them as I have on the Meteor.
The options of heated hand grips and cruise control as options will be a game changer for this bike. The 6 speed is fabulous on the road at 70+ mph…..
Has RE confirmed those will he available on this bike?
No. I am just hoping
@@spikemcsilver1904 I think perhaps no on both counts unfortunately, RE doesn't really do tech and that's part of the charm. Heated grips can be done aftermarket but cruise is difficult to replicate. Perhaps a basic throttle lock or grip support...
To start, either join an RE Meteor withdrawal self help group or run right out and get on a list for a Super Meteor! Like others I don’t see the 650 as an upgrade. The 350 Meteor offers a unique experience that, obviously, many people love yourself included. The 650 Meteor is more for someone who likes the current batch of 650s but wants a different riding stance. Now I could draw a parallel between ER and HD. The Meteor/Classic match the traditional Sportster model, not the new water cooled version. The 650s are like HDs big twin line. Now HD has been successful in getting Sportster owners onto big twins. However, there are also people who love their Sportsters and never jump to a big twin. They just like the smaller lighter bike and see no need to jump to a larger machine. I will also add I have traversed the US, traveling around 3,500 round trip, on bikes with no windshield, fairing, or hard bags. I currently travel several hundred miles a day on a bike with no fairing/windshield or hard bags, or even soft attachable bags. I throw on a water proof duffle and off I go. My last thought is please get yourself another RE Meteor, large or small, before we’re forced to do an intervention!😂
Hi JW, I know it's a sickness. My personal affliction of Royal Enfield pervades this RUclips channel 😂, guilty as charged. Since you mentioned Harley, why do you think HD cannot make a simple cheap bike in the same vein as the SuperMeteor? The Nightster is terribly plasticky and here in UK its £13,000 (a princely sum!). The FatBob is nice but it's very expensive. Harley has the character, it just can't seem to deliver the quality at an entry price point. How fast are you travelling with no wind protection 50-60mph? I know people seem spoiled these days talking about wind protection when older bikes were always naked. I personally would much much rather a naked no screen rather than an awful windscreen that deflects turbulent air right into you visor... As far as ordering another Meteor, I will be at Motorcycle Live 2022 in Birmingham which is near to where I live. I'll have a look at the Super there and see what it's like in the metal!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Your enthusiasm for RE and the meteor is great. Seems the brand has that effect on people which is very good for ER! OK, HD and simple cheap bikes…..full disclosure I obtained my Masters Degree for University of Wisconsin Milwaukee (That’s a hint). I am not now nor ever have been an employee of HD. That being said is the reason is simple but many faceted. I can only speak for the US market directly but here goes. We’ll start in the 60’s. HD had the Sportster, priced competitively with British imports as it was designed to compete with them. It even started out with a right side shift! However these bikes were not cheap so they imported Italian bikes made by Arrimichi the largest was a 350 4 stroke. They one road races with these bikes and on the track they were highly success lol, so much so that HD bought the company. By the 70’s the 4 strokes were gone and only 2 strokes remained. There are many books on the subject but directly dealers didn’t like selling them - little profit as they had to compete against Japanese bikes and we know how that went for everyone. BTW they were actually very good bikes and the 4 strokes, singles, are no collectors items. Skip forward to the 80’s and the buyout of AMF. One of the things AMF was accused of by the HD “faithful” was polluting the brand with the small bikes. An important point. Then HD revamped the Sportster line and the new Evolution 883 had a loss leader version that was simple and cheap and sold like crazy! Single seat, single instrument (speedometer), well you get the picture. Then they came up with a great deal, buy one and within 2 years trade it for a big twin and get back what you paid….what a deal! Skipping the Buell single which was bare bones too, let’s go to the failed 500/750 of just a few years ago. I never saw the 500 but I did see a 750. Pretty bare bones, not particularly attractive but it wasn’t as bad as the press liked to make it out to be. These sold very well in Australia and a few other places but never gained traction here. They take up floor space…that could be occupied by $25,000 USD bikes with massive profit margins bought by people who by lots of other things. The new regime at HD considered the 5-/750s to be diluting the brand and so ended production. So much of this boils down to not diluting the brands image, dealers don’t want small inexpensive bikes and those that do sell other brands, and the “faithfuls” have no use for anything other then twins.
I agree totally on the Nightster. I saw it and thought “plastic fantastic” but I’m not a marketer so who knows. The older Sportster’s sales were diminishing but I think this was more to do with the change in demographics of motorcycle buyers as a whole and that profit margin thing again. Oddly my local dealer loves the traditional Sportster as they sell lots of them: I watched them sell 2 in a 3 hour period when I was having service done this summer. Sportsters owners also buy lots of stuff. So to make a long story long HD simply doesn’t want to when they can make $36,000 USD CVO bikes and sell out in days, hours, why produce something simple?
As much as I love the look of them I think they will be about 3k more and really heavy.
Totally different riding experience.
Be great to own both😀
Hi Letni, thanks for the comment. I think you're right, it will be around £7K and it's gonna be heavy, the weight will be low down but still maneuvering it a slow speed is going to take some effort. I can't wait to see this bike in the metal and just see how it feels. Meteor looks and Interceptor power, I'm sure it will sell in REs export markets if not in India itself...
Good video. Think I’ll keep my meteor 350 and get the interceptor.
Thanks GunCollector. I expect the Interceptor to keep selling well even if a few sales siphon off to the Super650!
I bought one after sitting on the bikes at the Scottish Motorbike Show earlier this year. Never fancied a cruiser, now I'm glad I bought one.
Got the Celestial version, didn't come with the led indicators, broad footpegs, different handlebars etc. Did come with touring seat, screen and nicer paint. The bike is amazing to ride, very planted on the road and really comfy. 60 to 65 mpg. If you're not sure have a test ride and definitely do some off the bike handling to see if you're okay with the weight. I don't regret buying the bike one bit.
Hi Kevin thanks for the comment and well done on your new purchase. I love both celestial colours and intact the whole RE brand really floats my boat, this scrambler they are working on might get me to part with my hard earned... Thanks
The name is from it's history. No competition intended
Hi jetmeg9314, this is not the first SuperMeteor?
@@MindfulMotorcyclist en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Enfield_Super_Meteor
@@MindfulMotorcyclist RE is its own competition. Refining by learning from the environment led by people who are passionate about the brand. Isn't that the best thing?
@@jetmeg9314 Yes for sure. I would happily work for RE if I had skill to design/engineer anything 😂😂
@@MindfulMotorcyclist You do you! Put out authentic reviews of the motorcycle the way you see it and help others with their choices. Even that's noble 😊
They're talking 241 kilos for the Super Meteor and I think the Interceptor is 217, assuming that's both for 90% fuel load that's a 24 kilo increase. It's a gorgeous bike but I would have hoped for a little less weight increase, nevertheless I think it will sell really well and I could see a heap of people upgrading from the 350. I think it's fair to say it's another winner from Royal Enfield, perhaps the most dynamic bike maker on the planet at the moment, they're turning the whole motorcycling paradigm on its head, ignoring the glorified pissing contest of the 'fastest/most powerful/most tech laden' sector and making affordable bikes people want to ride. Who'd have thunk it eh? I understand Indians are proud of RE, and so they should be, it's now a world class company making world class bikes.
RE has technical teams in both uk and india. I am indian and I am happy that the brand is growing when people from both the countries are working on it
@@akk424 Fair enough comment but I think a lot of the credit has to go to Siddhartha Lal, under his leadership RE has gone from making something like 40,000 bikes a year to close to a million all in only about 15 years, mind boggling stuff. If he hadn't had the vision and belief to make certain changes I don't think RE would be where it is today.
R. Powell, Yes Royal Enfield are absolutely smashing it at the moment. The bikes are just stunning and back to basics without feeling cheap. I would happily ride and own any of the current line up but an Interceptor or SuperMeteor would be top of my current list. I often think why can't other manufacturers do this, I mean Harley cannot seem to produce an entry level bike that is basic but emotionally engaging (Nightster isnt great) and BSA well the Goldstar is still not here. I think Royal Enfield are approaching Triumph quality with a lower price point and a huge huge fanbase. We should have bought Eicher shares! haha
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I'm 59 and recently returned to biking after about 30 years away from it, and it's all down to Royal Enfield, they're making bikes I want to own unlike the Japanese makers, and that won't break the bank, unlike Triumph and Moto Guzzi. I've got a Classic 500 and an Interceptor, but the bike I'm really waiting on is a Classic 650, if they were to release that I would have some difficult decisions to make.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Hero is building a small capacity motorcycle for HD and will be launched end 2023
As a Meteor 350 owner myself, my question would be the same when looking at any bike: how do I intend to USE it? What kind of riding will I do? As much as I love the Super Meteor, it would be overkill for me. Why? I ride the local back roads; I cruise in our city's downtown; I cruise along the river; and I take the occasional day trip. I don't do any touring, really. For the riding I do, the Meteor's fine. If I were going to do some touring, the answer would be different; I'd pick the Super Meteor 650. However, for the kind of riding I do, the Meteor 350 suits me fine.
That's a smart approach. It's all too easy (for me at least) to get caught up in the buzz and hype over new bikes but when you consider what you actually need a bike for (200mph bikes are the prime example here) you would probably end up buying something very different. Thanks for the comment Mark...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist you're welcome! Don't get me wrong; I love the look and concept of the Super Meteor. However, between wanting to stay retired and looking at how I ride, I can't justify getting it. I'm glad RE is building it though, as I think it'll redefine what a cruiser should be. Until now, cruisers have been overpriced, overweight, two wheeled land barges. With the Super Meteor, we have the promise of a sporty, fun cruiser, something that's been long overdue.
The bike Harley should have made perhaps with 60bhp...
I moved on from the Meteor 350 to a Speedmaster for its touring/passenger abilities. I’m now wondering whether I should check out the Super Meteor. Mmm… food for thought!
I will definitely upgrade to super meteor here in vancouver
Seems from the comments so far that in the USA and Canada the desire is stronger to upgrade as the roads are bigger and you can take more advantage of the extra 'oooompf'! Thanks for the comment!
be interesting to see the price point, im looking forward to testing one, i've got an interceptor at the moment. Love the vids, subscribed and all that, keep up the great work.
Hi, thank you very much for the subscription. Still small at the moment and every new sub helps. Interceptor, well you can't really go wrong. Lovely bike... what colour is yours and have you added any aftermarket or RE extras to it?
@@MindfulMotorcyclist it’s bakers, tec parts canon silencers, screen, bar risers, rear tidy kit , touring seat, grip puppies, Hitchcock 12v socket kit
@@lifeintheshadylane Love hue, probably one of the best and also Interceptors just look great with a few choice trinkets added.
ruclips.net/video/am5ZzukBhHg/видео.html
Let’s just say ‘price’!
For what I do and need I think the Meteor 650 will be too much bike. But, until there are a few road tests done I think it's too early to tell.
Hi Colin, thank you for the comment. It will be a bigger bike for sure and that's something that people will have to judge based on their individual needs. I will be seeing it in the metal in a weeks time but I doubt I will be able to ride one until spring like everyone else...
They should launch a meteor 450 , that would hit the sweet spot.
I think the 650 might be the one! Still with RE developing the 450cc 40hp powerplant no doubt it will be used in many models.
The Hunter with a 450 engine and they wouldn't have been able to take my money quick enough.
650 is going back to bigger and heavier which I'm trying to move away from.
@@letni9506 I believe they are going to build out a new range around the new 450 engine, you may get your wish granted in a couple of years!
If your going to disparage the BSA water cooling radiator then by the same token the Kawasaki W800 could say the same about the ugly RE oil cooler. I think the RE biggest plus is the ability to easily do your own valve servicing (unless you have to use a dealer to service to keep your warranty).
Hi Terence, I think the BSAs is the least pretty and the W800 being aircooled is very attractive indeed. They've had to go up to almost 800cc though to get 47bhp without liquid cooling. The W800 is also £8499 which I think puts it nearer to Triumphs T100 than the Interceptor. The oil cooler is small and fits inbetween the down tubes which I think looks discreet enough. I agree though servicing with RE is easier and especially for the singles which was what I had (Meteor 350). Cheers.
The Super Meteor is a great offering but I highly doubt it can be compared with the Meteor. Here in India, the Meteor is treated as a heavy bike yet in my opinion it's pretty flick-able. The super meteor offers a lot more but weighs a lot more too. I also have a feeling it might not sound as good as the Meteor 350? I could be wrong.
Hi Ankit, thanks for the comment. I think the Interceptor engine sounds wonderful so no reason to assume it wouldn't work in the SuperMeteor too. I think the weight might be an issue but lets see, RE have a history of putting out bikes that are much more than the spec sheet would suggest. I hope the Super doesn't feel too heavy when I eventually get to throw a leg over!
The only thing the 350 Meteor and the Super Meteor 650 have in common is the instrumentation and the name.
That's probably correct, totally different machines...
I have std 350 2011 model and I'm definitely upgrading it.
Great, which Super meteor will you go for? Standard or Touring and which colour...
Don't you think RE are missing a trick by not taking the 350 out to a 500. Surely would sort the two main criticisms around top end and pick up.
Hi Jim, well they did have the Classic 500 but that was discontinued leaving RE really with 2 main powerplants (the 350 single and the 650 twin) for the Interceptor, Continental GT, Meteor(s), Classic 350 and Hunter 350. The do have the 411 in the Himalayan but that's unique to that bike. Perhaps a higher displacement version of the 350 lump with it's balancer shaft and newer tech would be a good idea! Thanks for the comment.
I'd like that too, but the problem is Euro emissions standards. If RE made a 500 single, they'd have to water cool it to keep the emissions compliant. This is why they have a 350 single and a 650 twin. 350 cc per cylinder is a sweet spot as regards emissions. It's going to get worse - the wombles running the EU will drive all bikes to be water cooling in the next few years. 😞
@@andrewoh1663 Hi Andrew, you obviously know more than me, could you elaborate a bit more. I have heard about the cylinder size of 350cc displacement being one of the optimal sizes, hence when F! went to 3500cc they used V10s, but why can they get away with it on the himalayan which by all accounts is not as well engineered as the J platform. Would love to learn why. Jim
My limited understanding is that NOx emissions are driven in part by high combustion temperatures. Atmospheric N reacts with Atmospheric O above 1500C to make NOx derivatives. As cylinder size increases so does the ratio of head volume to head surface area and air-cooled heads tend to run hotter so have more trouble controlling NOx emissions.
Also, Daihatsu did a lot of work in the 1990's to establish optimum cylinder size for efficiency and they said that 300-400cc was a sweet spot.
@@andrewoh1663 Thanks, so it would seem the theory says the engine would run too hot and the emissions thus be too high.
I object. The 350 is VERY comfortable for long touring.
Judge Sean rules: 'Objection Sustained' - everyone on the internet is entitled to his/her opinion 😂
Once you sit on both bikes side by side you'll quickly realize they are 2 different bikes apart from just the engine. The forward controls on the 650 and different seat make it a completely different bike, not to mention all the other differences like rear shocks and ground clearance.
Agreed, and the LED headlights and USD forks. I think the 350 is still more popular however looking at sales numbers.
A test ride will decide
Agreed, I think it's all down to how she handles her weight. RE bikes do seem to over deliver lately...
Nice video. What camera did you film this video with? The focus is nicely latched on to your eyes and the video appears sharp (on my new MSI Creator M16 QHD+ laptop, when played at 1440p60).
Thanks for the comment SN. I've literally spent a month agonising over a camera to upgrade from my phone to make the channel feel a little more premium, this is the first video I've dropped with improved filming so I appreciate you mentioning it. I opted for Fujifilm based on really a good experience with the brand 10+ years ago, a lovely build quality, they may not be the absolute best autofocus tracking (ahem Sony A7IV) but as you can see it works well enough and the FujiFilm colour science is lovely (there's no editing there, it's off camera like that). The model I'm using is the new X-H2 with the Fuji XF 23mm F1.4. Cheers
Really nice work 🍻👍🏻
Thanks Birmalya, appreciate the support!
I did recently look at the RE 650 Meteor, but I decided against and stuck with purchasing the 350.
There were a number things that put me off, even though I know the quality of the 650 is amazing, but I still preferred the looks of the 350. Another major consideration was the weight (I personally think 241kg is too heavy for a 650). I would also have to part ex my Classic 500 and I wasn't prepared to do that.
Very interesting that you took a 350 over the 650 as a few 350 owners are 'trading up' so to speak. The 350 has a more classic look and they have deliberately modernised the 650, look at the USD forks and the engine case logos for example. You've saved yourself a chunk of change and if you aren't interested in speed then the 350 makes a lot of sense. I loved my 350!!!
It will mostly depend on weight and your normal riding region. If you mostly ride in the cities the lower weight will definitely be better for everyday ride.
Thanks for your comment, I agree the Meteor 350 is perfect for the city. On the highway, the SuperMeteor will be much better IMO...
The 350 engine is a peach too.
Agreed, so smooth for a single and so characterful...
I too have the 350 in yellow great bike but this 650 wow I want a test ride for sure 🤔🥂
Hi Terry, thanks for the comment. It's a lovely looking thing up close. Perhaps a little more modern than the standard 350 but too quality...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist as a small all rounder the 350 you can’t help but like it the minute you ride it such a simple bike
In all senses ..I passed my full test in July this year at 67 ..my only real comment on this bike was I wish this were a bit bigger engine,
Having said that it’s nippy enough but lacks in near the top end should you need more..but really RE are going to kill the market
With the new 650..🥂😎
do you think its possible to replace this LED headlamp in the 350cc meteor?
Perhaps it is, but why would you want to? Just to have a more modern look or to have LED? The Meteor 350cc gives a good light for the road... cheers
@@MindfulMotorcyclisti guess LED is more power efficient to the battery than the halogen now and also gives better night visibility..the road lights are not great around the area i live and the highway as well...i do not want to go with an aftermarket option...i was thinking to change the headlamp assembly once the super meteor spares are widely available..so just curious to know if it wud fit on my meteor 350.
Fair enough, very hard to say without having the two units in front of you side by side. They could be bolt on however. I guess wait until more Super Meteors are out there and ask someone to measure up for you. I think it would add something visually to the 350 as well...
240kg no way. I'll just gonna get the interceptor. Changed my mind on super meteor.
Apparently it doesn't feel heavy if you know what I mean, weight is low down and it's easy to move about. I've not ridden one but when I have an opportunity I will put it up here and comment on the weight for sure...
Good informative video ! 👍
But I think you missed to inform about the "riding position" !?
It seems that the SuperMeteor has the feet placed a bit furthen ... hence more of a "cruiser style" riding position.
Would you (or anyone) agree or confirm that ??
Thanks Renan for the comment and the kind feedback. At the time of making this video I had just seen the stats and not actually thrown a leg over the bike. I'm editing another video where I have actually seen and sat on the bike and the foot controls are a little more forward than the Meteor but not much perhaps 15cm or so. Feet feel OK when I sat on it tbh. The touring version also has taller handlebars to make it a bit more comfortable for longer rides... Thanks.
which one should I choose for my first bike?
Either is fine, probably the 350 as your initial costs £2800 ish second hand will be much lower so will insurance etc. SuperMeteor will still be fine as a newer rider it's only got 47bhp but it's a bit heavier at 242kg and the turning circle is much wider than the 350. Cheers
After reading a bunch of comments…. It seems there’s a lot of back and forth about this is good… or this is not good… or it will be to expensive….I think this is great….hahaha…. We’ll…. It shows lots of interest in this bike….. there’s only one way to fix it….. come on RE….. get this bike to the showroom so we can see it and test ride it… green black a d gold pinstripe looks great….I’m in Thailand…. I think it will get here before the UK..👍
I think RE can't really do anything wrong at the moment, they are making excellent bikes that the owners just love. The SuperMeteor does represent a step up in price, which might be a problem for RE, as the standard now has to be a lot higher...
My perfect meteor would have a 450 engine with spoked wheels ,maybe one day they will do it ,jimmy Aust
They might just make this one day. A cruiser with the Sherpa 450 engine...
My wife and I own two meteor 350s with 17k/9k miles and two int650s with 11k /23k on them we find them very comfortable all day rides. You say two hrs. Lol you aren't a true biker. You need to understand millions of people ride these bikes as their primary transportation daily year round. I think most weekend or part-time riders complain about comfort.
I also own a indian scout, indian chieftain and a honda cbr1000. My plans are is to sell everything but the REs and purchase the super meteor 650. I don't care about speed. I love everything about these bikes.
What's a 'true biker'? Don't you think someone who rides a 250cc to college each day and someone who rides across the USA on a HD Road King are both still bikers? Are you saying that you're only a 'true biker' if you have ridden a lot of miles or own all the bikes you listed...
Forks are NOT the same . Are upside down 43 mm SHOWA (research)
It's the heaviest bike as far as I know at 240kg that RE has made.Bear that in mind if you have to do manual manoeuvres regularly.
I agree, it might have the weight low down but it still takes mass to move mass so if you want to push back out of a parking space etc it will be harder work...
Hi great material very nice filmed ;)
Haha, thanks for the comment Two-up! Glad you liked the end result :)
Lots of people will be selling their RE 350s for cheap to get a super 60 ? IMO
I was interested about that as well. Meteors have been hanging around the £3k mark for a while now. It's a lot of bike for the money but will the Super 650 push that lower, perhaps it well...
Where are you from Sir ❓
Hi Jogendra, thanks for the comment. I'm in the UK, not far from Birmingham... cheers
Royal Enfield never disappoint...for india royal Enfield is Harley...it is reliable and cheap with good built quality in the segment..also it can go anywhere by putting a smile on your face
That's a great point, when did RE last produce a bike that disappointed fans? I can't remember. Sure they are not for everyone but those who like them, well they really like them.
You forgot the Benelli 502C ...
Good point 👍
Super Meteor a meatier Meteor...
True 😃
I believe meteor 650 is too much bike for the city.
Perhaps this is true...
Nooooooooo!!!!
Hi Laurie, keeping your Meteor then? 😊😊
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Don't have one......but if I did, I certainly wouldn't swap it for that 650 "custom" thing. All that 350 needs is 10 more mph. Lovely bike.