Skydio 2: First Remote Controller Flight & Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2019
- Remote is alright... The drone performs really well and is fun to fly... but man, I really wish they designed their own controller.
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That moment you think you have lost the drone, I know that feeling so well!
Me too almost had a heart attack 😳
When you lose your signal you kinda accept the reality that you might lose some $. But the real issue for me has been the drone hitting someone. That totally terrifies me.
“It’s not coming back” and “I can’t see it”, that would make me sweat. I feel you.
Dear Skydio. ...I think you just blew it!!! Great drone but many many issues. Going to talk with my friend who also put a $100 deposit down.
We will be mainly using the controller so DJI you have nothing to worry about. Even if I have to spend more money for a Mavic 2. It's worth not
having all the headaches. Thanks Billy for posting.
DJI is breathing a little better because they can continue to crank out rehash products again. No need to innovate.
Nothing does tracking like a Skydio though.
Thanks Billy I really appreciate your fine review of the controller on the Skydio it was very good I hope you do a best setting’s video like you did with the P4P & Mavic Pro those were so helpful for so many people you would not believe. I’ve myself have watched them 5 to 10 times and have recommended them the same to friends Take care my friend
Please RTFM before taking the controller out for evaluation. The "Boost" button temporarily sets the sensitivity for the controls to 100% while the button is depressed. This is allows to you to have sensitivity set low for smooth movements and still not loose max rates. However, I do like the variable rates, depending on how far from center the stick is, better for the Mavic controller. The phone wireless signal strength icon was active and the manual states to turn off wifi on the phone when connecting to the controller. Running wifi on your phone and those high voltage transmission lines along the train tracks probably contributed to a lower range for the controller.
For me it's the first class OA. Where I fly there are mountains, lots of trees, waterfalls, and streams to fly up or down. With this drone I can fly in these conditions without having much fear of crashing. I can instead focus more on the shot and let the drone maneuver around the obstacles.
And yeah, I want more people to cancel so that my order will be bumped up .
Don't worry if there are more videos online, many cancel the order.
"Please RTFM before taking the controller out for evaluation". Thanks for pointing this out. My first thought watching this video was how many people will cancel their order because the controller sensitivity was on default, and think that is the top speed with the controller. I'm batch 3 so looking forward to getting mine sooner!
Great video Billy!
Excellent experiential vid, Billy! Fascinating!
Great Job, Billy
That footage looks amazing on RUclips. 4k60 is the way to go.
Agreed
I like the fact that you didn't edit out your look of panic! Nice work
I'm pretty sure this flight left a barcode in Billy's underwear 😂
Lmao
Glad I got my reservation fee back...next!
Hey Billy, the first time I see you sweat Bro! I really appreciate your videos as alway..Peace.
Thanks! I was a bit worried😂
I’ll stay with DJI
It will make a useful addition to my M2P for some situations. Another tool in the tool box.
@@gregparker5732 definitely, I personally cannot compare even tho I don't own a S2 but its a totally different tool than MP2
@@gregparker5732 yup! me too. I'll have my M2P and Skydio 2 with me when I go out filming. Both have their own strengths but I believe the M2P has a slightly better advantage overall. Hoping my Skydio 2 shows up in a month or so.
@@matterhorn5617 month or two? well, i guess optimism helps, but in reality, dji will probably shelf out mavic 3 before people will actually get this thing in their hands..
@@izoyt even evo 2...
Thank you so much for your videos, very useful, keep it up😀
Looks like a fun drone to fly!
@billy The legend on the screen said, “check map for the location”, then “view map” button appear. Why don’t view the map? May be that there you can see some data about the drone location.
I was considering purchase of the Skydio 2 primarily for it's camera and flying qualities, not for its tracking ability. The lack of telemetry and control using the remote is a deal breaker. Very disappointing.
Nope. They state very clearly on their site the telemetry will not be available in the apps inital release. Problem is No one reads. Everyone is an instant expert and critic.
@@techtiptricks Thanks for the information. I did not read the site and was unaware of the declaration. But it's still a deal breaker for me.
Yes it is, even a cheap 200$ drone has telemetry.
Me too.
different market and different targeting, this drone, skydio, is really for autonomous tracking, for those like outdoor activites, filming themselves doing it,, While Mavic clearly is more designed for and aimed for those wanting to shoot scenery, etc
This drone needs more time in the oven. Maybe Skydio 3 will be all we hoped. All I know is they better start shipping these things fast as the pre orders seem to be dropping fast.
Brian McGraw nope people preorder anything so quality isn’t the focus
How long have you been waiting?
I think if you hit MAP it may show location of s2 & controller
I always get a pit in my stomach, when my controller loses connection to the drone; not knowing if I'll ever see it again.
Thanks for reminding me about the usb c cables that came with the controller! I had to go back through my box and there they were. Saved me some money :)
Hey can you control the gimbal to focus on a subject whilst flying in a different direction.
Like if you are doing a cable shot.. can you turn the gimbal independently. ?
The 3,500 feet to the bridge is very consistent with what I get with my Parrot Anafi/controller combination - typically max range is 2,500 to 3,500 feet in a suburban area. Looks like the Skydio is about the same. However, the Anafi allows you to manually choose the channel you want and I went with a couple of different channels in the 5.8 mhz band and that made a difference with the fpv - strong and clear up to about 3,000 feet, then just drops out and starts an RTH. Does the Skydio give you the ability to choose a specific band or channel? Might help. My take, Skydio should have licensed a better controller (Autel evo's with the built in screen would have been great) or designed their own.
I just ordered controller for my Skydio 2 drone.
I got this to extend the range of the drone- as this has been tough using my phone and getting limited range and not saving my video footage.
One question - with the drone being farther away w the added distance from controller - will I be able to press the vortex, orbit, etc and access the camera from my phone still?? Was concerned b/c without the remote, the drone doesn’t go very far. ***And I want to be able to control the shots w my phone while it is out at longer ranges. ***
Hope that makes sense
BIG QUESTION:
With "auto-record" does it split the recording in fractions or it makes 1 file?
Because after flying 21 min and recording all the time, you get one huge file in 4K, 60fps!
It's not really convenient to handle such big file... It's better to have possibility to stop/start recording during the fly...
LOL! It came back. Just took in the view on it's way.
Thanks, Billy, that is what I have been waiting for. All I can say is; deal breaker. Too bad.
Thanks for making the videos and taking requests that risk losing or crashing your drone for our entertainment ha-ha. The front facing obstacle avoidance appears to work really well, request to see it fly backwards and sideways towards an obstacle. In my limited experience that’s the riskiest time trying to get a shot moving backwards or sideways out of view of the camera and wondering if you’re about to slam into something.
Same all around.
the factory cable that the iPhone brings doesn't work for me which one you're using on the video that's from iPhone to type c
Why did you keep flying forward when the signal was already weak 😮
Great video, really good footage. Does the controller on the Skydio beep loudly like the Mavic controllers do?
No it doesn't, lol. Thank you!
@@billykyle Good to know. That's a plus for skydio lol
Nice to watch a 'pro' fly. Seems to me though that early on you had lost VLOS before you first tested the the RTH. Pretty gutsy. Also, interesting that when you got the low battery warning it just said it would land in 1:15. Wonder if this thing was far away, if it would of adjusted its warning time to allow for a manual return to home. Also, no automatic RTH on low battery?
Can I use dji remote with the skydio? the can DJI FPV goggles be connected to camera of the skydio ?
damn... I wanted one for the tracking but the range is les then the old phantom 3 (?)
Skydio team obviously need to upgrade all these issues!
I think even The evo to me is better thanks for the info
Your expressions were too funny while you had thought you lost that $1,000 drone!!! 😂😂🤣🤣
Billy, remember to maintain line-of-sight. We are mandated to that! Really delightful, helpful video. Thanks so much. 😊
Line of sight = 20 yards in any direction.
Brian Kushner Ah, that’s right. Thx. :)
Holy shit! LOL You thought you lost it! LOL. I know the feeling, when I sent my Inspire 2 to the statue of liberty and didnt think it was coming back hahaha
I believe that the Skydio 2 flies backwards during return to land because of the antennae placement being in the back of the drone. It will provide a better transmission signal that way.
Why won’t my controller power on when I opened the folding arm. It is fully charged!
Can it see power lines
Can I just control it with my phone?
I know that feeling you were going through I have a mavic air 2 and whenever I fly to limit and it disconnect I feel sick to my stomach when I thought I lost it then I just see it flying above me😂
Ok it’s not coming back lol
That was funny as crap you were already visualizing the drone in the river 🙀
I find it funny how people knock the range, and say oh it's a deal breaker... If you can't see it anymore you are now breaking the law... LOL
StevenSteele45 _ we all know that, but a $700 product + the controller, with less than a 3500ft of range is a waste of money!
It would have been nice, with a map, on the phone app, like there is in DJI´s app´s. That map is something a lot of Drone flyers use when the drone is out of sight.
Hi, I think it loses the connection signal very easily...and that is a headache.. otherwise I see it perfect...Billy make more test because the my will be arrive on May of the 2020.. Thank , excellent video.
Great video! man... Billy, it definitely was a horrible experience though. losing connectivity once would result in me benching or selling that drone.
Question could the anafi remote be used instead
No, same hardware different software, so no point.
"it wasn't a horrible experience..." lol
If it was any other controller it would be better. Such a shame
I feel you bro :))
Same thing happened with me and my mini over the ocean :// Adrenaline pumping
How far can the skydio 2 go using the controller before losing the signal?
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Thanks once again for a great review Billy!! Batch 2 here and my my excitement is lessoning as time goes by to commit to the S2. Skydio has a "long" way to go in regards to firmware / software updates. The list changes considerably on a daily basis.
No telemetry, this should have been a no brainer.
No ability to take off in low light which takes away sunset / sunrise shots
Needs smaller bubble (radius) for autonomy. I seen somewhere that this was implemented in the S2 Pro Kit software.
Loses subject in frame periodically until manually corrected
Very basic RC
Jerky video. I've seen more jerky video than not and yes, I have great high speed internet along with a loaded MacBook Pro
Won’t fly without a SD card
Won’t take off if there isn’t enough clearance (radius)
Can’t turn off the RC when open. This causes you to have to remove your phone or tablet.
Image transmission becomes blotchy & breaks up fairly fast.
Loses connection fairly quick
Have to hold down the on screen button to completely land when drone is hovering approx. 6 feet from ground.
These are just some of the things I'm seeing........ so far. You looked like you were in a good high area in which I expected the S2 to perform better than it did. This drone could be so awesome in which a lot of it could be corrected through firmware/software. I've seen that Skydio is working on some of these issues such as the lack of telemetry but, I haven't heard it from the horses mouth...... Skydio, yet. I know this is all negative feedback. On the flip side, I sincerely do want this drone and I'm holding on to see what Skydio is going to do. I sure hope Skydio is taking a look at your reviews. I'm glad that I'm in batch 2 which enables me to see all these real world reviews before pulling the trigger. Billy, you're on top of it and I appreciate you in taking the time for all you do! 👍 👍😊
Well said! I feel the same. Thank God for the non-biased real world RUclips reviewers. We can always refund or spend the money as we learn the truth about this drone .
Thanks...... I'm really hoping that Skydio takes care of theses issues for the S2 and not hold back to do so on the possible S3 down the road. We'll have to be a little patient for now to see. I do have every bit of confidence in them at this point but, I.M.O., they should have found the majority themselves before release. The S2 could be in a couple words; Incredibly awesome with its autonomous engine. 🤔😊
Im batch 4, so unless improvements are made I might not get the skydio 2
That disconnect at 5:51 made me very nervous along with it just getting closer and closer without connecting until 7:55
Hope they are listening to the drawbacks we started with controllers and will always desire one
ditto
The more videos I watch on Skidio, the more I am glad I didnt get one. Not worth 1300 bucks. I will get the Autel or M2Z to go with my M2Pro. Great Video Billy.
I found the hard way that nothing to date can beat the Mavic 2 Pro...
AZRJR is just almost perfect, I’m really love with my M2P, can you imagine M2P with zoom?
I could tell it was returning to home by the camera feed. I’m sure you were freaking out!!
So do you think it’s worth the money?
Hopefully they’ll release some firmware updates soon to address some of the issues that you’re describing.
When did place your order before you received it?
I’m in the second batch and I’m curious about how long I’ll have to wait until I get mine.
May have to wait long enough that some things will be improved.
Powers a very funny reaction when you thought you're losing your mind
Telemetry are likely an update away. // yep
The whole controller part seems like an added feature in the last minute, and kudos for that as a controller is a must..and that you can control your rates.. also solid..
Biggest con it the range but then again, it aint intended for distance though it is nice to have with a good cam.
Nice video!
Now I know why it has no telemetry!
So that nobody sees that it can only fly 1 km😂
It's not a long distant drone to begin with. Why do people judge drone by how far they go?
Sean Chang because the felling of losing connection is the worst thing in the world, if you have 7km of range but you can just fly for 1km, perfect, but if you wanna and you can fly more than a km and instally losses the connection that sucks!
lmfao Billy you were sweating
Hi, Billy, have you tried flying the Skydio 2 with the range extender? Wait, of course not, the remote doesn't have antenna. Never mind.
Thanks billy . My turn off is the controller to be honest. I think imagine is great, the sensors are definitely great, but sticking with DJI . Great video
Absolutely DJI hands-down.
Over hyped from launch.
They develop a top drone and fly it with a cheap remote control.
Makes real sense 😴
It seems the drone returns back no problem. Just the connection cannot go far
Yeah. But I didn’t know that😂
Billy Kyle haha yeah. Well lots of good real world data here.
that's not too trustworthy. No good for regular flying. I"ll just be using mines for autonomy and beacon.
Will be using my M2P for all other filming.. Skydio has a lot of work to do on the transmission.
i'm very interested how they will coupe with drone regulations etc, where there's always need to have drone's operator visual contact (in this case you just holding the stick in your hands, while you don't have any true control over the thing, while filming yourself cycling, skiing etc), some areas prohibiting the autonomous modes etc.
When I first heard about this. My only problem was that I am used to a 1” sensor with 20 meg stills. Very good for low light situations. Having seen this.. that pales into insignificance. I’ll stick with DJI for now. Even with the geofencing.
By the way, I emailed Skydio and asked if there were any plans to introduce a bigger better chip. And was treated like an idiot by their “Customer Services” dept
In any case. All our regs are changing in July,and these will be illegal then. So... waiting for some good news.
If the river was glassy slow who knows if it would have encountered dangerous or damaging serious situation, as instructions do warn of water more than X feet wide (if I recall right, 30' ?). I got a river next door, no way will I chance skydio over it. Best to be wise with such an expensive "thing".
Hope your hands recovered ok.
Seems like first flight?
It's actually good you hadn't done whole lot of instruction cramming coz when you flew it ......... it demonstrated its forgiveness, makes me a 70yo senior feel more secure for December (when I supposedly get the drone).
Thanks! :)
Hopefully Skydio is monitoring sites like yours Billy. Thanks for the review. I’m in batch 1 but have yet to receive my S1. Honestly, had they disclosed that the controller would ship with no telemetry I probably would not have plunked down the deposit. It’s hard for me to believe that they missed such an obvious and crucial component. Makes me wonder if they even fly DJI drones or any of their competition because anyone who’s flown for any length of time at all comes to lean on and use telemetry to be a better and safer pilot. Big fail in my opinion. I would definitely NOT sell my M2Pro in exchange for this one, but I am still looking forward to seeing that 4k60 and using the autonomous flying to capture some things that are currently not possible when solo flying my M2Pro so I’m going to keep my order in and hope that Skydio adds telemetry to the S2 by summer. It also sounds like a completely new controller would be in order. IMHO. So, for me, the Skydio will not be my #1 drone by any means, just another tool to add to give me some more options for footage, kind of like having a nice mirrorless camera and still owning an Osmo Pocket and a GoPro. Three cameras, three uses - 2 drones, 2 uses.
Super Cool! Skydio sadly still has some work to do...
Is there a setting for RTH height ?
Nope
Wow
@@billykyle My guess is that with the excellent object avoidance, it really isn't needed. It will plot it's path home AROUND, ABOVE, and BELOW all obstacles. IMHO (in my HOPEFUL opinion).
@@corvetteflorida It would be much safer raising height than trying to dodge busy traffic if it took a low flight home across a highway lol
Billy, to me it appears that you are learning by doing. Did you read a manual? If so, was it good enough? I see that your are making comparisons and that is normal. However, every quad as you know has its own unique differences. This Skydio2 is no exception. Fly the props off it and see how you do after many sessions, if you would? Please try not to be too uneven in comments while in the learning stages.
Make more videos about Mavic Mini)
Any word on telemetry?
No idea yet
Yeah haven’t heard anything concrete but as there has been other issues brought up to the president there about other updates and they/ he acknowledged there would be firmware updates they are atm focused on production ramp up and production quality so those that ordered will get their new bird ASAP so honestly I see them tackling these and other issues but not till they resolve their first issue. This is going to take awhile like it or not BUT I’m hoping those willing to keep faith and allow this group of folks to continue to do what they do best we will get a rather outstanding drone. Nothing ever goes with out issues some less than others BUT there is ALWAYS growing pains. The good thing here is we are getting more of these in the air seeing the pros/ cons and I’m sure skydio is actively take note as well and you have to admit their team has much talent/ potential so everyone will have to make their own decisions to either give that team/ company faith and support or not. I for sure as I hate the waiting will give them that as I believe in their product and it’s current potential and future ability to add to firmware to improve it.
You really looked delighted to finally see it coming home Billy lol
I think the reason They made the Skydio 2 not be able to fly without a SD card is for insurance reasons they want to be able to see what happen in the crash and determine if they will cover your drone by seeing footage that’s what I think but I might be wrong
Great info as usual, hopin for a better alternative to DJI but this is certainly not it...Even the EVO beats this !! Thanks Billy for savin me money..I'll wait for the Mavic 3...
Skydio ads: less cockpit more camera
Just 15min of flying time, 350ft of range, on screen hold to land, no telemetry, oh man, is like a beta version of a drone, but is not commercial salable!
I flew with my Shydio2 with the remote manually today for the first time. I actually liked the speed, it seems nice for flying around in the back yard. If it were too fast, I'd be turning constantly to keep it out of the neighbors yard. I hate the phone holder. I have a small case on my phone which is hard to remove. The phone kept slipping out. When it did, it would hit the sticks. You can't sit the remote down with the phone in it, it just falls over and then the phone pops out. SKydio please get us a new remote! Better phone holder with enough girth to sit on a table and not fall over.
Billy you should have let the battery drain down to see what the drone would do, would it auto return home or just land where it was.
Next time!
I think autoland. I saw another vid where it got stuck in a tree area. Didn’t know how to get out and auto landed when low in power.
Agree.
@@WillEDC Seen that but it is different because the drone was stuck as you said.
Yeah only going off videos from those that took receipt of the drone as I’m not that lucky BUT if the battery 🔋 drains it will land where it’s at no RTH at that point. And I say land but depending on the environment I think crash will be the better word, and I’d assume that would void warranty as I’m sure it would fall under not flying with in their safety parameters.
On the bright side, you probably don't have to worry about your concern about no usb A port since you probably lost only about 3% battery on the controller
Powers ! Don't know where that came from
Great points mate. Like your Reviews. Remote needs to be completely remodeled. Don't like the no flight business especially if an experienced pilot.
Love the obstacle Avoidence and believe its where they can overtake dji. . but only if they include the basic modes etc of what we come to expect from todays drones. I also use an IPAD MINI. Looks to me like this drone is made for safety. The boost button should be a switch. By them trying to make this safe they actually do the opposite. Obviously needs Glonas.and a lot more work, its a shame, I like the active trak.
The battery drains fast once you increased roll, speed and pitch to 100%.
Your "Skydio remote controller" is made and manufactured by Parrot. They have a partnership with Parrot. Skydio wants to allocate monies towards R&D on the Skydio only, and not bother with a "Skydio" controller in my opinion. I have two Skydio2's. It's a tool with a specific purpose, like a hammer for a nail. That's why I have other drones for different jobs.
ya Billy dji at least has map shows it comeing back
It lost connection with the remote, it can't show anything.
@@knife-wieldingspidergod5059 ya well glad i have mavic 2 pro and zoom and not skydio looks like there may be room for improvement
I appreciate your tutorials on the Skydio before I get mine
You are so right Phil. I'm in batch 2 and based on the reports given on the Skydio Forum, mine won't be here when originally stated. Probably be more like April than February. Time will tell. So I'm looking forward to more from Billy about his experiences with and without the controller.
timdks yeah I’m in batch 2 and I’m not sure if I am going to follow through with it or not. Thinking about getting the Autel Evo 2 instead when it is released. It’s supposed to be released in January 2020 but I’m not holding my breath!
And that remote controller doesn’t work very well and looks cheaply made. I don’t know why Skydio didn’t build their own remote control. Using the Parrot Anafi remote is terrible!
After watching your tracking video I got very excited about this drone.
But now I see with no telemetry and nothing telling you how fast you’re going this needs to be worked on by the manufacturer and the engineers.
I hope they will listen to you, but until I see any difference in the interface and the controller, I will stick with DJI.
You went soooo quite 😂😂😂
The controller does not seem to be worth the extra $150 it costs. Thanks for your great reviews on this and other drones. I always check for your reviews on products.
I feel they totally failed with the controller, especially for that price. I really hated to say that but I hope that they are paying attention to some of reviews out here. And hopefully get back to the table and re-vamp this controller idea. A lot of work needs to be done, before I spend money on a controller that doesn't seem to have a lot of control!!!!!! Great video by the way. Keep them coming
Video quality 4k60 super
Sit in your car to fly. That's what I do 👍
hi... bro i'm Waching From Bangladesh.
can you help me?
Where are you filming?
Manayunk, just outside of Philly.