There's bound to be bugs in this spreadsheet. Let me know if you find any bugs and if you find it helpful! I've been double checking it when farming relic domains just to make sure I don't get rid of stuff I might want to keep. Thanks everyone :) Make a copy of it: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19hBRQWML69zVsAKXKhn3IDVJ4-TQDsXgqCCPc8I0njg/edit?usp=sharing
The relic spreadsheet is awesome. Funny enough I was like where is the Genius set for Jingliu and then I saw him reference it XDDDDDD Good stuff. Keep it up 👍
Related to Relic-Characters page: I think Clara can definitely use 4P Wuthering set, especially considering relatively mediocre value of Champion domain (and with upcoming folow-up attack set, its 4P value for Clara will drop even more). Wuthering may not be the BiS set for her on paper but it really helps with something like solo SU runs (shoutout to Smug videos) and overall surviveability especially in case she doesn't have her signature lightcone.
@@isabelmoran6735bro it's a gacha game, you knew what you were getting into (farm, relics/artifacts, 50/50 characters), idk why yall keep saying the game is tiring when it's GACHA😭
@@_HanaPanda because I'm only focusing on relic,, I login once a day just to spend all my energy farming random relic (mostly the one with monkey in it) and then log out. Maybe 1-2 days I spent my energy for completing weekly task. Now that there's new relic set, my numbers goes up to 1100 pieces 😭 (I have sort out 100-150 pieces since the video uploaded). I don't farm on traces because I have 12 characters at 8/10 or 9/10 on their traces.
@@fauzitsabitkemal ah, I'm a Seele main and I spent most of my time maxing her out. So her traces are now fully maxed out, I'll start on silver wolf next and eventually my first team will just be maxed to where I want them to be. I have been naughty and using my trail blaze power to farm some relics today, as I want to build a second team.
Thank you so much for putting this spreadsheet together and sharing it! I made a similar but much more basic one for my characters in Genshin because it’s so much to keep track of. You have just saved me a lot of time and headaches and the drop rate and efficiency info you added will be super useful as well. Much appreciated.
I was about to start building a spreadsheet for myself and this video was recommended. Somewhere YT is reading my mind and I'm incredibly thankful for your work! Makes this much easier now.
this spreadsheet is super helpful, thanks! as a suggestion, a checkbox for people to select which characters they own/want to focus on that then filters the drop rate value etc in the other sheets, would be super useful.
Hit TB70 yesterday, been dyeing under the number of relics I'm hoarding. This sheet will do wonders, and the drop rate and avg drop per energy is very eye opening. My go to GI and HSR youtuber brings another gem and tool!
Thank you so much for this! As someone who is new to this style of game this spreadsheet looks like a lifesaver - you must have put so much effort into it and it looks amazing. Thank you!
Relic Guide: Expectations: Crit and Atk on DPS....HP, Def and Speed for Supports. What you mostly get: Crit and Atk on Supports. Hp, Def and Speed for DPS.
omg yesterday i farmed and i got a perfect hp body which i can use for supports with high criteria rate and crit dmg roll inn substats it is so frustrating
Legit fr like for example my Gepard had a head piece with 18% cdmg and only rolled 1 on def%. My brother got an OHB body for her Lynx but all rolled to cdmg and it's 23% lmao
The set bonuses dont matter so much just as long as you get the "correct" sub-stats. Once you do that, you will free your mind and your units will become stronger!
tysm for this! Relics are kind of overwhelming for me to think about (especially since I like using so many different characters) so it's nice to get some advice all in one video. Now I finally can feel better about salvaging some of the many relics that I have.
Greatest video and spreadsheet of all time! Thank you so much for breaking down the massive end game strategy so we can game more easily and enjoy this game more! 💪💪
Even though I’m at end game and TB66 I’m still struggling with what relics to use, look for, farm, and etc. I find this video VERY HELPFUL!! Thank you so much IWTLG!
Thank you so much for the spreadsheet. i've been doing one myself for my genshin characters but couldn't find the time or motivation to do the same for HSR, helps a lot
so about the elemental spheres, the average stamina should be multiplied by 7, as you are trying to get the element your character needs, not just any elemental spheres. Edit: NVM the list is totally correct, 12.73+12.31+11.74+9.03 (*7)~=100%, the list already accounts for the elemental sphere the character wants. It's(9.03%) much more generous than the hell rate Genshin got (5.00%).
Also regarding speed boots. Almost every character wants speed boots so their value should be higher than say ER ropes. A single ER rope may be harder to get than a single speed boot but you may need 3 ER ropes and 20 speed boots.
The stamina values appear to be correct, because they're derived from the stat rate -> drop chance. If you look at the stat rates for spheres, his stat rate is 9.03%, which is correct and divides the actual "any elemental orb" stat rate of 63.3% by 7. He doesn't need to multiply the stamina chance by 7 because he already divided the stat rate by 7, so its factored in.
Thank you so much for the explaining everything. I was getting paralyzed by choices. I don't particularly like playing the "excel-game", but I do like playing with excel.
Nice work! Wish you had released this earlier though, last week I went looking for something on this topic and after finding nothing I made a similar spreadsheet. Since I don't have all that much knowledge on what's ideal for each character, I sourced all my data from prydwen. Some interesting things I noted. 0. Nobody wants flat ATK/HP/DEF 1. Practically everyone wants some amount of speed so i didn't include it on the substat list. 2. The only ones who want effect res are supports and only if they're using keel so I didn't include it on the substat list. 3. DPS units mostly want ATK, Crit rate, and crit damage, with a few exceptions (Blade, Jingliu and Yanqing somewhat). 4. Abundance and Preservation mostly want HP/DEF with a few exceptions. 5. Supports are the ones with mixed offensive and defensive stats and are the ones you need to keep an eye out for. 6. Prydwen doesn't think much of break builds it seems, with only 2 or 3 listed. With that you can put together a pretty quick rule of thumb for determining whether a relic is worth keeping.
This spreadsheet is just what I've been looking for, thank you so much! This maybe isn't the place to ask, but do you or does anybody here have a similar sheet for Genshin?
Seeing that Stamina Value chart for relics was very educational for me. Now I understand why I don't have a EHR piece for my newly acquired Silver Wolf based on the chances here.
For me I can Take a good Piece Regardless if it's 3 or 4 stats and some of my 3 stat Relics with Double Crit (Specifically The ropes) Have shined for me one with 1 roll into CR and 3 into CD and another with CD as the 4th sub and 4 rolls into CR
Amazingg video! Extra tip for people, keep 4 stars that have 3 sub stats and a speed sub stat between them, you could en up getting a very decent speed piece even if it has lower stats. Also and for myslef, even if a 5 star piece with 3 sub stats with 1 crit dont roll the 4º slot into another crit, its better to roll into into +6, maybe you end up with a cuadruple crit piece, and if at +6 it didnt roll into crit, move on.
Hey IWTL thank you very much for the spreadsheet since I love to learn about every game that I played,but there is one problem that I see when you show the relics for all characters. Seele use quantum not imaginary,of course people who have play this game for a while know it's wrong but I'm just afraid beginner try to use this video as a guidance and actually putting imaginary sphere but nonetheless thank you very much for your effort. Edit:Now that I actually see it,every quantum except SW are imaginary sphere
3 of my best C damage pieces came with 3 starting substats , two of them being flat hp and defense, or effect res, and everything rolled into c damage , got up to 27% on 3 pieces like that. I always roll into something to +3 , then maybe one more time then salvage if I don't like.
So I’m about 5 months late to this spreadsheet but seriously this is so so helpful!!! Are you by chance going to update this anytime soon as we have gotten more caverns and worlds in Sim Universe? Great job on this!
I think the new domain is gonna be insane value, probably best in slot or at least useful 2 piece set bonus for every follow up and DoT character in the game.
basically i dont even rely on spd relics. whole team have 25 spd boots or not, result absolutely the same. not talking about substat bc its barely possible to roll into speed rather than just flat def
WOw such a good work. But although such a big mistake to put all 7 different elements sphere into one row in table. If you want, as example, a wind sphere then this is not 2.26% per set drop rate. This is more like 2.26%/7 = 0.32% to take elemental wind elemental sphere.
After about 3 months of getting non-stop defense, speed and hp relics, I quit honkai for good and told myself to never come back since I was just wasting my time getting useless relics. Until I saw this video, which has saved me from quitting the game for good, so thank you for this!
I know this video is about relics but i have an question outside the topic. My question which 4 star would u choose in this event bare in mind(dont have LC for pela)if u have an account where u nothing pulling on until a certain time.
Even without a great LC, I'd say Pela is the most "universal" char because of her AoE def shred, but all characters are viable with good investment, so pick the one you like the most (appearence or skill wise). Maybe avoid Hook/Serval if you already have a Fire/Lighting 5* DPS, but I've seen both of them full star clearing MoC easily too. Have fun, invest in the chars you like and take your time, no need to rush :)
844 avg stamina for an element sphere is to just get ANY element sphere? Getting a specific element sphere must be much more costly. I'm trying to get a good ice one for Jingliu and just got 1 ice sphere out of 25-30 drops so far. I'm thinking about crafting one.
really helpful gude, just a question. wouldnt element specific sphere be the highest stamina cost because it should be 2.26% / 7, making farming element specific sphere the most costly. usually i sacrifice my substats for dps sphere and just use the self modeling resin coz its such a pain to farm it, plus sim universe takes much longer time to run
I only just started this game a couple weeks ago. Completely addicted to already coming from Genshin. Love it. It’s so easy to get lost in the story and lore. I am TB35 in just a couple weeks 😂just by doing all the quests. I have very few I have a couple up to level 50 but still suffering because of low relics. I have so few. I have a healer, a Shield and damage. Trying for another damage dealer. It takes forever ever doing anything for damage. Ugh. I don’t want o lose interest because of this. They need to have better ways to get three or four star relics. I been searching everywhere!
just in time. I didn't farm much, only to get considerable ok relics for new characters. And still my inventory is overflowed. But I'm playing since start
A helpful video, however imma continue to roll my double crit attack sub gears and magically roll a flat stat 4th sub 4 times instead I'm now at 28 of these instances, as opposed to the 2 gear where I rolled a useful stat more than once, Dhilf still not got 70% crit rate all because I haven't rolled crit rate once across all 6 of his double crit starting gears ;_;
Love the vids, always watch the HSR content. Been following since Genshin (moved onto HSR as a more casual friendly dad option). Any chance of you updating the spreadsheet for current relics and characters? I'm a bit of IWTL meta slave!
You had a little oopsie at the end. It's not Passerby and Musketeer that drops from weekly bosses but rather Thief and Musketeer. Man I wish I had 5000 relic remains! The self modelling resin aren't as valuable as I'd hoped they'd be, since you get to choose the piece you're likely to get the substat you want within 10 rolls anyway, and there's nothing stopping it from being triple flat stats either way. I rolled my Seele's whole set pretty much from crafting without using resin.
Lucky you. I've used every single self-modeling resin that we've been able to get so far on getting Seele a Quantum Salsotto Orb with crit rate or crit damage. Guess what?! All of them rolled without any crit. RNG is RNG... and i cry every time i think about it, but i stay on the grind.
@@xhandhele You should probably just farm world 7 since rutilant arena is superior anyway, or even wait for the upcoming world 8 though it doesn't seem like an upgrade over rutilant. If you are running mono quantum it could still be worth it for your supports anyway though. I've also never gotten anything good from self modeling resin. All my best crafted pieces were just from random luck crafting without resin. I have 5 of them now just sitting around. I guess they're meant for sets that are extremely inefficient to farm and where substats don't matter that much.
Idk, I'd say most of my build characters have decent (average or above average) artefacts/relics It just takes time, you commit to farm for one character and you keep farming that till you're done. Ok maybe take a break to get some exp/trace materials for whoever, and when farming artefacts back where you were. Like right now I'm just missing a good Wind % dmg with speed and crit rate to finish my Blade. And if I do get a wind % inner salsoto that rolls 4 speed and 5 crit rate, or better, I'm happy. And will consider him done.
i also want to point out, in the simulated universe, you could get a massive amount of crit rate with certain blessings ! so much so that you could possibly cap out on cr, or benefit much more from having a more balanced ratio. so even if a crit rate chest might be better for you without any blessings, you might consider changing it from cr to cd in the middle of your run !
Is there an updated spreadsheet version for 2.0? Your guide is very useful and I regret not seeing this after grinding so much without knowing the right one to farm...
I've been making baby alterations, expanding relics and adding the missing characters on your great sheets but I'm having some ordinary problems that I'm not finding the solution for as a layman, and I'm hoping you can help solve, like the color (element) of a new character's entry not carrying over to the filter sheets, but that aside, what's really bumming me and that's quite crucial is that the filter doesn't work with multiple words inside a single cell for example "Vonwacq / Penacony", your filter won't find this cell if I select either "Vonwacq" or "Penacony", the filter will only find it if I either remove one word or another. It's searching for a specific word, something such as this: [4P 2P Set 1] "Messenger" in a single cell the filter can find however a [4P 2P Set 2] "Hunter / Pioneer / Musketeer / Prisoner" inside a single cell the filter won't work/find. I would need too add too many new columns if I were to put them all in individual cells. I wonder if there's a solution for this, I tried to create a dropdown myself however the line of codes from the tutorials and guides out there doesn't quite work like yours plus their filters doesn't answer my above problem
I was hoping that he would adress the dillema that is. Should when should i salavage my relics? Is it worth salavaging 5 star relics? Like what should i do with level 3 relics with bad rolls? Should i salvage them or use them as EXP material for the next relic? Am i burning too much money for using them as exp or maybe i should just salvage them?
Level 3 relics have no value whatsoever (past week 1). Level 4 relics, at max level with very good rolls, are the only one's worth keeping, and even then you are actively looking to replace them. Potentially keep a very rare mainstat 4 star relic, if it from a set you don't farm much and don't have a 5-star version of, in case you need to suddenly build a character that needs it and don't have / don't want to use a self-modeling resin quite yet. Both level 3 and 4 relics give the same amount of relic upgrade potential whether directly used in an upgrade or used via salvaging. It is apparently technically more efficient to salvage 5 star relics than use them as upgrade materials, because 10 relics gives a new rng chance at a specific part of your desired set, compared to what those ten 5 star relics give in upgrade exp. So they should be used last as exp material. But in reality which one you should use them for depends on whether you are prioritising better relic pieces or if you are in need of upgrade exp for upgrading now.
I understand if they need money from us by Gacha & Battle Pass but they also limit our farming efficiency by only giving 240 TP really pisses me off I've wasted 2 weeks farming relic for my Jingliu and she is still not a good unit for my account Those 2 weeks only for 1 unfinished Jingliu How many months for a team of four do I need yet we need 2 teams for MOC? 😭
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There's bound to be bugs in this spreadsheet. Let me know if you find any bugs and if you find it helpful! I've been double checking it when farming relic domains just to make sure I don't get rid of stuff I might want to keep. Thanks everyone :)
Make a copy of it: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19hBRQWML69zVsAKXKhn3IDVJ4-TQDsXgqCCPc8I0njg/edit?usp=sharing
Awesome spreadsheet, nice to have it all in one place. It looks like there's a few mistakes on Jingliu's relic stats just FYI.
The relic spreadsheet is awesome. Funny enough I was like where is the Genius set for Jingliu and then I saw him reference it XDDDDDD
Good stuff. Keep it up 👍
Related to Relic-Characters page: I think Clara can definitely use 4P Wuthering set, especially considering relatively mediocre value of Champion domain (and with upcoming folow-up attack set, its 4P value for Clara will drop even more). Wuthering may not be the BiS set for her on paper but it really helps with something like solo SU runs (shoutout to Smug videos) and overall surviveability especially in case she doesn't have her signature lightcone.
Not sure if fixed yet but in the video you have Jingliu using an imaginary damage sphere 😂
Seele and quingque - wrong damage sphere
This dude just casually rolls a God tier Crit DMG body within the first couple of minutes of the video. Life is unfair.
lol seriously. Him calling it just “pretty solid” when none of the rolls went into flat atk was like a punch in the gut.
I've lost 3 50/50 in a row I'm so tired
@@isabelmoran6735bro it's a gacha game, you knew what you were getting into (farm, relics/artifacts, 50/50 characters), idk why yall keep saying the game is tiring when it's GACHA😭
@@li.zx__Yes, things like these are normal in gacha games, but that doesn‘t make them acceptable…
@@isabelmoran6735I‘m still yet to win a 50/50 or 75/25 on my account. I haven‘t won a single one.
the timing of this video is so perfect.. now i can sort out my 1000 pieces of 5 stars relic
How do you have 1000 5* relics, I got hardly anything 😂 (but then again I have been focusing on farming traces materials)
@@_HanaPanda because I'm only focusing on relic,, I login once a day just to spend all my energy farming random relic (mostly the one with monkey in it) and then log out. Maybe 1-2 days I spent my energy for completing weekly task. Now that there's new relic set, my numbers goes up to 1100 pieces 😭 (I have sort out 100-150 pieces since the video uploaded). I don't farm on traces because I have 12 characters at 8/10 or 9/10 on their traces.
@@fauzitsabitkemal ah, I'm a Seele main and I spent most of my time maxing her out. So her traces are now fully maxed out, I'll start on silver wolf next and eventually my first team will just be maxed to where I want them to be. I have been naughty and using my trail blaze power to farm some relics today, as I want to build a second team.
I have around 1400
this man easily getting crit rate sub on a cdmg body.
Thanks for another great vid
Content creator luck
Thank you so much for putting this spreadsheet together and sharing it! I made a similar but much more basic one for my characters in Genshin because it’s so much to keep track of. You have just saved me a lot of time and headaches and the drop rate and efficiency info you added will be super useful as well. Much appreciated.
I was about to start building a spreadsheet for myself and this video was recommended. Somewhere YT is reading my mind and I'm incredibly thankful for your work! Makes this much easier now.
this spreadsheet is super helpful, thanks! as a suggestion, a checkbox for people to select which characters they own/want to focus on that then filters the drop rate value etc in the other sheets, would be super useful.
Hi, I liked your idea so I made a spreadsheet with it.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13hgKwJ5AAnle3UzTM0exkVEF5sEDojZ4oviDA2WgLww/edit?usp=sharing
Needs more relic sets for different eidelon lvls too
I was already set on putting messenger mostly on all my healers and support but man this is prefect timing. Hopefully this will make me reconsider.
Honestly same
Well, Longevitus and Messenger sets are very Cost efficient to farm for most Supports in the game.
That's what I did. My Luocha (Bailu is warming the bench) and every other Harmony is full messenger.
@@v-7815is the 4pc not wasted on him because he cannot use his ultimate on an ally ?
@@misspinklumi Yeah but I've farmed that Corrosion so much that the sub-stats on the pieces are best in slot for Luocha. Like SPD, ATK%, HP%
I’ve been farming relics for half a year and not a single character of mine has any good pieces, this is just insane. I still can’t believe it.
same
Ikr like the rng sucks so bad,and there is no free sets with guaranteed usable stats.
Skill issue
Yeah I think hsr a lil bit harder than genshin on rng
Hit TB70 yesterday, been dyeing under the number of relics I'm hoarding. This sheet will do wonders, and the drop rate and avg drop per energy is very eye opening. My go to GI and HSR youtuber brings another gem and tool!
Thank you so much for this! As someone who is new to this style of game this spreadsheet looks like a lifesaver - you must have put so much effort into it and it looks amazing. Thank you!
Very impressed with your dedication! And as a new HSR player, this makes my life so much easier.
dayum just started? glgl
@@nothat1pop897 Thanks! So far I have been super lucky. SW on first ten pull. 2 Huo Huo in a row. Won three 50/50!!
MUST BE NICE@@Abremoch
Relic Guide:
Expectations: Crit and Atk on DPS....HP, Def and Speed for Supports.
What you mostly get: Crit and Atk on Supports. Hp, Def and Speed for DPS.
omg yesterday i farmed and i got a perfect hp body which i can use for supports with high criteria rate and crit dmg roll inn substats it is so frustrating
Legit fr like for example my Gepard had a head piece with 18% cdmg and only rolled 1 on def%. My brother got an OHB body for her Lynx but all rolled to cdmg and it's 23% lmao
Just swap it if you don't have time and sanity anymore, I have freaking 25 percent CRIT damage substats in knight defense relic
The set bonuses dont matter so much just as long as you get the "correct" sub-stats. Once you do that, you will free your mind and your units will become stronger!
@@xhandhele DPS with 4pc Passerby of Wandering Cloud: Look at me, I am the Healer now.
tysm for this! Relics are kind of overwhelming for me to think about (especially since I like using so many different characters) so it's nice to get some advice all in one video. Now I finally can feel better about salvaging some of the many relics that I have.
You just dropped the most helpful spreadsheet out of nowhere, dude! Thanks!
Greatest video and spreadsheet of all time! Thank you so much for breaking down the massive end game strategy so we can game more easily and enjoy this game more! 💪💪
Even though I’m at end game and TB66 I’m still struggling with what relics to use, look for, farm, and etc. I find this video VERY HELPFUL!! Thank you so much IWTLG!
Also in case no one else catches it, you have Jingliu and Qingque on imaginary dmg spheres (should be ice and quantum). edit:looks like others have
Thank you for sharing the spreadsheet! This is really going to come in handy :)
Thank you so much for the spreadsheet. i've been doing one myself for my genshin characters but couldn't find the time or motivation to do the same for HSR, helps a lot
so about the elemental spheres, the average stamina should be multiplied by 7, as you are trying to get the element your character needs, not just any elemental spheres.
Edit: NVM the list is totally correct, 12.73+12.31+11.74+9.03 (*7)~=100%, the list already accounts for the elemental sphere the character wants.
It's(9.03%) much more generous than the hell rate Genshin got (5.00%).
Also regarding speed boots. Almost every character wants speed boots so their value should be higher than say ER ropes. A single ER rope may be harder to get than a single speed boot but you may need 3 ER ropes and 20 speed boots.
The stamina values appear to be correct, because they're derived from the stat rate -> drop chance. If you look at the stat rates for spheres, his stat rate is 9.03%, which is correct and divides the actual "any elemental orb" stat rate of 63.3% by 7.
He doesn't need to multiply the stamina chance by 7 because he already divided the stat rate by 7, so its factored in.
@@Mann42 ok you are right those numbers do all add up to 100%, guess I will edit my statement.
@@Mann42 I doubt that, from personal experience the right element sphere is still one of the hardest things to get
@@tyshen0329 Yeah, I thought the same thing you did so I checked his math.
Thank you so much for the explaining everything. I was getting paralyzed by choices. I don't particularly like playing the "excel-game", but I do like playing with excel.
This is INCREDIBLE !!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH
Just turned tl 60 and searched youtube for an updated relic guide before farming, and here we have IWTL using fu xuans third eye lmao
Nice work! Wish you had released this earlier though, last week I went looking for something on this topic and after finding nothing I made a similar spreadsheet. Since I don't have all that much knowledge on what's ideal for each character, I sourced all my data from prydwen.
Some interesting things I noted.
0. Nobody wants flat ATK/HP/DEF
1. Practically everyone wants some amount of speed so i didn't include it on the substat list.
2. The only ones who want effect res are supports and only if they're using keel so I didn't include it on the substat list.
3. DPS units mostly want ATK, Crit rate, and crit damage, with a few exceptions (Blade, Jingliu and Yanqing somewhat).
4. Abundance and Preservation mostly want HP/DEF with a few exceptions.
5. Supports are the ones with mixed offensive and defensive stats and are the ones you need to keep an eye out for.
6. Prydwen doesn't think much of break builds it seems, with only 2 or 3 listed.
With that you can put together a pretty quick rule of thumb for determining whether a relic is worth keeping.
I had a good laugh when he realized he missed inert salsotto in his summary sheet 😂 that kind of thing happens to all of us...
This spreadsheet is just what I've been looking for, thank you so much! This maybe isn't the place to ask, but do you or does anybody here have a similar sheet for Genshin?
You're a champion for this, thank you for the spreadsheet!!!
This is the most informative starrail video in whole tube, wow
Im just get back to star rail and really need this guide! Thank you so muchhh
Seeing that Stamina Value chart for relics was very educational for me. Now I understand why I don't have a EHR piece for my newly acquired Silver Wolf based on the chances here.
As someone who is gonna need to rebuild every character for 1.5 this helps a lot
you play around Kafka and Topaz, huh?
I hate it when relics only have 3 substats. That's 1 whole rolls wasted
For me I can Take a good Piece Regardless if it's 3 or 4 stats and some of my 3 stat Relics with Double Crit (Specifically The ropes) Have shined for me one with 1 roll into CR and 3 into CD and another with CD as the 4th sub and 4 rolls into CR
Especially at TB65.
Barely triple rolls is the only benefit.
Bad stats are the only constant.
Yup, thats the downside of 3 stats.
I can tolerate one flat stats to save my time, energy, and sanity
You are amazing man! Thank you so much for all this data
This man dedication to educate us new players👊. Deserve a new sub, you and sevy.
Aeons be damned, I should've seen this video WAY before, it would've made my life so much easier 😭
Amazingg video!
Extra tip for people, keep 4 stars that have 3 sub stats and a speed sub stat between them, you could en up getting a very decent speed piece even if it has lower stats.
Also and for myslef, even if a 5 star piece with 3 sub stats with 1 crit dont roll the 4º slot into another crit, its better to roll into into +6, maybe you end up with a cuadruple crit piece, and if at +6 it didnt roll into crit, move on.
This is super useful! Kinda out of date at this point, but with the base programming available that's an easy fix.
Hey IWTL thank you very much for the spreadsheet since I love to learn about every game that I played,but there is one problem that I see when you show the relics for all characters. Seele use quantum not imaginary,of course people who have play this game for a while know it's wrong but I'm just afraid beginner try to use this video as a guidance and actually putting imaginary sphere but nonetheless thank you very much for your effort.
Edit:Now that I actually see it,every quantum except SW are imaginary sphere
3 of my best C damage pieces came with 3 starting substats , two of them being flat hp and defense, or effect res, and everything rolled into c damage , got up to 27% on 3 pieces like that. I always roll into something to +3 , then maybe one more time then salvage if I don't like.
You can't salvage if the relic is already levelled. You only can use them as fodder
So I’m about 5 months late to this spreadsheet but seriously this is so so helpful!!! Are you by chance going to update this anytime soon as we have gotten more caverns and worlds in Sim Universe? Great job on this!
I think the new domain is gonna be insane value, probably best in slot or at least useful 2 piece set bonus for every follow up and DoT character in the game.
Very useful spreadsheet! Please update it for the new characters/sets. Thanks!
i think using self modeling for element sphere more valuable than ERR cuz 4% drop rate divide by all element for specific element
Perfectly timed video for me, just reached 1400 gold relics
Yes I finally see the time lapse in Genshin Impact at your Honkai Star Rail video! Thank you so much for the spreadsheet!
The sheet's really useful. Can you keep it up to date with the new relics?
Will the spreadsheet be updated with new relic and SU sets?
basically i dont even rely on spd relics. whole team have 25 spd boots or not, result absolutely the same. not talking about substat bc its barely possible to roll into speed rather than just flat def
its sad this sheet does not get updated
thank you so much, I currently creating a same spreadsheet and boom, you upload this video, this is really helpful
Finally, a pretty substantial piece of information.
Thank you so much, this was very helpful!
WOw such a good work. But although such a big mistake to put all 7 different elements sphere into one row in table. If you want, as example, a wind sphere then this is not 2.26% per set drop rate. This is more like 2.26%/7 = 0.32% to take elemental wind elemental sphere.
The effort in that spreadsheet is insane
thank you
do you have an updated one iwtl? thaaanks
After about 3 months of getting non-stop defense, speed and hp relics, I quit honkai for good and told myself to never come back since I was just wasting my time getting useless relics. Until I saw this video, which has saved me from quitting the game for good, so thank you for this!
😂 wished I had this sooner, I’ve been making crit bodies with bad stats all this time. This for info
I badly needed a relic guide
Am i only the one who still keeps all their relics at level 12 ?
(Edit: btw i still clear all the content in the game. 36* Moc/PF … etc)
There are probably other people who Keep their Relics at 12. If you have Soild Relics though at +12 you could +15 them if you wanted too.
Your not alone my friend
Sometimes i do.
Only if they’re shit and I just need them for the main stat
Lol? No. All the characters I use have +15 relics
XDDDDDDD
I really needed this
I know this video is about relics but i have an question outside the topic. My question which 4 star would u choose in this event bare in mind(dont have LC for pela)if u have an account where u nothing pulling on until a certain time.
Even without a great LC, I'd say Pela is the most "universal" char because of her AoE def shred, but all characters are viable with good investment, so pick the one you like the most (appearence or skill wise). Maybe avoid Hook/Serval if you already have a Fire/Lighting 5* DPS, but I've seen both of them full star clearing MoC easily too. Have fun, invest in the chars you like and take your time, no need to rush :)
@@Mafagafo7 ty for ur take!.
Thank you for such helpful videos 🙏🙏🙏
Excellent work, thank you!
844 avg stamina for an element sphere is to just get ANY element sphere? Getting a specific element sphere must be much more costly.
I'm trying to get a good ice one for Jingliu and just got 1 ice sphere out of 25-30 drops so far. I'm thinking about crafting one.
This is really helpful. i just hit lvl 50 and I was enhancing relics to 15, I should have lvl it up to +3. Ill definitely try the spread sheet.
really helpful gude, just a question.
wouldnt element specific sphere be the highest stamina cost because it should be 2.26% / 7, making farming element specific sphere the most costly.
usually i sacrifice my substats for dps sphere and just use the self modeling resin coz its such a pain to farm it, plus sim universe takes much longer time to run
Actually sphere all element drop rate is 63 percent
I only just started this game a couple weeks ago. Completely addicted to already coming from Genshin. Love it. It’s so easy to get lost in the story and lore. I am TB35 in just a couple weeks 😂just by doing all the quests. I have very few I have a couple up to level 50 but still suffering because of low relics. I have so few. I have a healer, a Shield and damage. Trying for another damage dealer. It takes forever ever doing anything for damage. Ugh. I don’t want o lose interest because of this. They need to have better ways to get three or four star relics. I been searching everywhere!
Great video. Thanks for the sheet!
Please update the sheet, There is some new characters, it is really helpful
Finally the video that i needed most
just in time. I didn't farm much, only to get considerable ok relics for new characters. And still my inventory is overflowed. But I'm playing since start
those filters on the sheet tho....DAYUMN 🤩
I returned this week, this is amazing!
Please update this it is really helpful !
20 minute video... quick little video lol. Excited to actually watch it cus my relics SUCK!
A helpful video, however imma continue to roll my double crit attack sub gears and magically roll a flat stat 4th sub 4 times instead
I'm now at 28 of these instances, as opposed to the 2 gear where I rolled a useful stat more than once, Dhilf still not got 70% crit rate all because I haven't rolled crit rate once across all 6 of his double crit starting gears ;_;
Thanks! This is really helpful!
Love the vids, always watch the HSR content. Been following since Genshin (moved onto HSR as a more casual friendly dad option). Any chance of you updating the spreadsheet for current relics and characters? I'm a bit of IWTL meta slave!
i just hoard every relic cuz maybe in ver 6.2 there will be a ice character that scales on def that also wants double crit, eff res and ehr
6.2??? Thats like ten years later
@@inchemaitau6587 i think thats kind of the joke. It's irrational, but hoarders rationalize by maybe there is a use yrs from now.
Lol, this game does feel like this though
There is healing light cone that scale on effect res
need to update them relics
You had a little oopsie at the end. It's not Passerby and Musketeer that drops from weekly bosses but rather Thief and Musketeer. Man I wish I had 5000 relic remains! The self modelling resin aren't as valuable as I'd hoped they'd be, since you get to choose the piece you're likely to get the substat you want within 10 rolls anyway, and there's nothing stopping it from being triple flat stats either way. I rolled my Seele's whole set pretty much from crafting without using resin.
Lucky you. I've used every single self-modeling resin that we've been able to get so far on getting Seele a Quantum Salsotto Orb with crit rate or crit damage. Guess what?! All of them rolled without any crit. RNG is RNG... and i cry every time i think about it, but i stay on the grind.
@@xhandhele You should probably just farm world 7 since rutilant arena is superior anyway, or even wait for the upcoming world 8 though it doesn't seem like an upgrade over rutilant. If you are running mono quantum it could still be worth it for your supports anyway though. I've also never gotten anything good from self modeling resin. All my best crafted pieces were just from random luck crafting without resin. I have 5 of them now just sitting around. I guess they're meant for sets that are extremely inefficient to farm and where substats don't matter that much.
Awesome video and spreadsheet!! Will you be adding the new relic sets to it?
Idk, I'd say most of my build characters have decent (average or above average) artefacts/relics
It just takes time, you commit to farm for one character and you keep farming that till you're done.
Ok maybe take a break to get some exp/trace materials for whoever, and when farming artefacts back where you were.
Like right now I'm just missing a good Wind % dmg with speed and crit rate to finish my Blade. And if I do get a wind % inner salsoto that rolls 4 speed and 5 crit rate, or better, I'm happy. And will consider him done.
while me rely only on musketeer set on dps, tank and healer : this is fine
Very good sheet. Thank you.
i also want to point out, in the simulated universe, you could get a massive amount of crit rate with certain blessings ! so much so that you could possibly cap out on cr, or benefit much more from having a more balanced ratio. so even if a crit rate chest might be better for you without any blessings, you might consider changing it from cr to cd in the middle of your run !
There's like... never a realistic reason to do that but sure
Is there an updated spreadsheet version for 2.0? Your guide is very useful and I regret not seeing this after grinding so much without knowing the right one to farm...
These charts make me grateful to the developer because I have a lot of healing body pieces (super rare!) from the firesmith set (sad)
very nice video! thank you tons for it.
do you plan to update it for the new relics?
I've been making baby alterations, expanding relics and adding the missing characters on your great sheets but I'm having some ordinary problems that I'm not finding the solution for as a layman, and I'm hoping you can help solve, like the color (element) of a new character's entry not carrying over to the filter sheets, but that aside, what's really bumming me and that's quite crucial is that the filter doesn't work with multiple words inside a single cell for example "Vonwacq / Penacony", your filter won't find this cell if I select either "Vonwacq" or "Penacony", the filter will only find it if I either remove one word or another. It's searching for a specific word, something such as this: [4P 2P Set 1] "Messenger" in a single cell the filter can find however a [4P 2P Set 2] "Hunter / Pioneer / Musketeer / Prisoner" inside a single cell the filter won't work/find. I would need too add too many new columns if I were to put them all in individual cells. I wonder if there's a solution for this, I tried to create a dropdown myself however the line of codes from the tutorials and guides out there doesn't quite work like yours plus their filters doesn't answer my above problem
I really wish Genshin had something like the self modeling resin so we could make exactly what piece we need.
I was hoping that he would adress the dillema that is. Should when should i salavage my relics? Is it worth salavaging 5 star relics? Like what should i do with level 3 relics with bad rolls? Should i salvage them or use them as EXP material for the next relic? Am i burning too much money for using them as exp or maybe i should just salvage them?
Level 3 relics have no value whatsoever (past week 1).
Level 4 relics, at max level with very good rolls, are the only one's worth keeping, and even then you are actively looking to replace them. Potentially keep a very rare mainstat 4 star relic, if it from a set you don't farm much and don't have a 5-star version of, in case you need to suddenly build a character that needs it and don't have / don't want to use a self-modeling resin quite yet.
Both level 3 and 4 relics give the same amount of relic upgrade potential whether directly used in an upgrade or used via salvaging.
It is apparently technically more efficient to salvage 5 star relics than use them as upgrade materials, because 10 relics gives a new rng chance at a specific part of your desired set, compared to what those ten 5 star relics give in upgrade exp. So they should be used last as exp material. But in reality which one you should use them for depends on whether you are prioritising better relic pieces or if you are in need of upgrade exp for upgrading now.
@@rowanmales3430 thanks you nailed what i needed to know. :D time to salvage out those shitty ass lvl5 relics of mine.
All the red marks giving me anxiety
I wonder zenless zero is coming soon ...Iwintolose must be tired editing 😂 you're video helping me tq tq❤❤❤
I understand if they need money from us by Gacha & Battle Pass but they also limit our farming efficiency by only giving 240 TP really pisses me off
I've wasted 2 weeks farming relic for my Jingliu and she is still not a good unit for my account
Those 2 weeks only for 1 unfinished Jingliu
How many months for a team of four do I need yet we need 2 teams for MOC?
😭
For that spreadsheet, what are the odds for a specific element for the sphere? Like an Ice Damage sphere in particular?
63%
How do players get so much relic surplus? I'm constantly running out of relic xp.
No update in spreadsheets?