Imagine being Joe's neighbor, you go out and get that game you were really excited for you get home and you hear Joe yelling from next door and you get sad lol
i think he has Blue PTSD by now. the channels avatar should be changed ...Other Joe...quick before your friends ends up in an asylum screaming every second of every day "BLUE....its god damn BLUE!"
Exactly, drives me crazy when people don’t realize they’ve been asking for this shit all along. Maybe not explicitly, but definitely with their wallet, and that’s really all corporations care about.
And honestly, I wouldn't even mind paying to look cool as long as it came with an hour or so of content. Yes, I paid money to dress up my paper dolls, but I had to do a quest with a little bit of content to completely unlock it. Modern gaming is literally dressing up paperdolls with no actual content.
Another thing that Joe doesn’t touch on is that data miners found SEVEN teams in the files completely ready to play that are just locked behind a paywall for future paid dlc. Including my favorites Lizardman, necromatic, and wood elf. Unbelievably egregious
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with Blood Bowl 2: Legendary Edition because I want to play my Lizardmen team without having to pay money to get them as DLC when they're already in the game files ready to play. This essentially the Street Fighter X Tekken character DLC but worse.
Blood Bowl 2 pulled the same crap when it was first released. It held back the popular teams to sell separately. There was plenty of outrage. Later instead of dropping the price, they just added the teams to keep the price as high as possible for as long as possible. Eventually they had to lower the price. But at launch, the game shipped with only 6 of the bare-bones teams and all the good teams had to be purchased separately. Apparently, they haven't learned their lesson. I will never buy another BB game ever again.
@@sebastianromero113 Not really if you want every positional, you'll need multiple copies of the "teams" plus the big guys tend to be sold seperately(and there are teams that have multiple) A fully kitted BB team using GW minis is def 100$+. Though there are very awesome third party options that GW is actively trying to kill without pissing off the community.
@Sebastian Romero The game is not playable with a single $30 purchase. You are being very disingenuous. Like any GW product, it is $200 or more to start, and it just piles on after that. Pathetic shill.
It doesn’t even work flawlessly. If you buy things in the shop too quick in succession (say because you want to give your whole team the same helmet) it sometimes skips purchases. It still bills your but you don’t get the item.
@@zerg0s even if I won the lottery, I would not buy the game with this business model. Let alone the wallet-rape customisation options that should just be part of the base game. Giving them money for this abuse tells them it is OK.
Joe didn't even mention the fact that people have found SEVEN of the game's upcoming DLC teams that're fully playable RIGHT NOW locked away in the games code.
Blood Bowl's team is gonna see Joe's angry rant and go... "You know, Joe is right, we need more touchdown animations.... which can be YOURS for only 1 dollar an animation!!!"
Yup & that animation will be one time use only, meaning the next time, the tough down animation won't exist & you will have to pay for another touch down animation, spending another dollar Sounds great right?
Losing TotalBiscuit was like losing our war general. Dealt such a major blow to the consumer side of the gaming industry, at the very least. Can only wonder how he'd react to this, considering how much he enjoyed Blood Bowl.. and even played together with (against) AJ.
To be honest the game industry wouldn’t have listened if he was still alive. You have still have people like Joe and Jim Sterling calling out these stupid practices and the game industry just laughs about it. Total Biscuit’s death just made the process faster, but in no way would his life hinder the process indefinitely.
@@Unchainedful true. None of them ever listens to gamers. The reason is, we are not the customer. People who buy games, are not the customer. With the Live service rush, we are the product. Or more so, the whales are the product. They are the ones being sold to “investors”, I put them in quotes because they are more like Short Term Speculators. When they took over the majority for businesses like this, instead of long term investors; everything is at the mercy of the pressure for the unsustainable constant increases every quarter. They only listen to money because nobody is counting quality or customer satisfaction, they are simply selling to Short Term people who only sees money. The only way we’ve seen a fight back of this, is seeing that industry implode. They engorge themselves to death because they are chasing a small fraction of gamers who pay the big bucks. Problem is, they only have limited time to play games, and can’t sustain THAT many games like that. It would be easier to sustain if they got the majority of gamers to pay up. But that isn’t the case. Like the many Live service games that already shut down this year, we’re looking at another MMO situation.
When AJ is speechless, you know he's really pissed. This was supposed to be a relaxing, fun diversion away from Madden, and it's WORSE than Madden. Congrats, Cyanide. You broke Angry Joe... Mission Accomplished! This is what Warhammer does now. They breakup and sell you the game piece meal. The entire Warhammer 1, 2, and 3 Total War experience should have been one (1) game with MAYBE one (1) or two (2) DLCs. Not this... (3:50)
Hey joe those customisations can only be equipped to one player at a time cant all use the same head also all the future teams models were found within the game 5+. The game also reuses alot of animations from bb2 aswell as all the commentary dialogue. Thank you for being the big voice to point out its bad and not be paid off like some people have been trying to make it look good and saying unfinished is fine
Whilst I agree… he failed to mention that the currency can be earnt in game. I turned the commentary off mid game one when they repeated the same line.. for the 10th time. They better polish the fkin game.
@@mordsythe it literally can't be earned in game right now, and it's supposed to be full release. And if it's about the future battle pass, you and I don't know anything about how it'll be implemented, you shouldn't trust these devs so blindly.
@@MrOrzeker I don’t trust them after they released the same game with a FEW minor updates. But to not even mention it, does a bit of a dis service. He could have quite literally mentioned how the ability isn’t in the game and how they “say” it can be earnt. Ya get me?
@@mordsythe Why would he mention something that's not guaranteed? If you can't earn it in-game at the start then that's just a negative, no promises in the future changes that that's super scummy.
@@SeeAndDreamify probably means to a base level ready to receive microtransaction customisation. whether they function or not is not guaranteed and "was never promised" though.
@@SeeAndDreamifyif the devs are as stupid as they appear to be (trying to pull such a blatant rip off), then probably the code is already there, just inactive till you pay your dolladolla bills
@@SeeAndDreamify .because their data is in the base game? hence data miners found it. same crap happened to me on shadow of war, on the DAY ONE version of the game there was a bug that would let you get legendary gear from a yet to be released orc tribe(DLC), proving the whole thing was already done, just chopped up to be added as DLC later
Weapons manufacturers are pure evil. Price gouging pharma companies are pure evil. This is a videogame that you can just not play, get some perspective. The people involved are likely psychopaths but I'd rather they were gouging the shit out of people for some bad videogame than insulin.
@@jlev1028 the only reason the poor are poor is because they accept it. If they chose im sure they can rise above the hardships and succeed. Success is earned, lets not say that others are fed with a golden spoon, since not true
Btw I just read in the steam reviews, that the "to be released team - lizardmen" are already in the game files, so they took it out on purpose to sell it later
Yeah... this just breaks my heart. 💔 I thought that this was to simulate the game, but this is just cheap. I wanted to grab a bite of the game, to see if it's fit to get into the physical version. If nothing else, I thought I could have passed in some "support " by getting the game...
The NFL probably got to Cyanide and said, "We can't run the risk of you making a football simulator so good, people might stop watching actual football with actual concussions. Make it crappy, or you will pay."
I've been a league commissioner for almost 14 years and I have never been this upset at blood bowl. I can't even describe how MAD I am at this level of insanity. I got banned from their discord forum for posting my thoughts.
Considering how simplistic the actual gameplay is and how few assets are needed for it, there is no excuse for there to not be hundreds if not thousands of customization options as part of the base game. Eitherway, I hope this part of a livestream because I would love to watch the whole video when the vod comes out.
The price gouging by Games Workshop is why so many of us turned to 3D printing our own teams or just moving onto other games in a similar theme. This is going to sour even more people on BloodBowl
@@raikouija663 Resin. PLA is better for bigger items, but resin is much more detailed for miniatures, and doesn't need to be as robust as PLA is to start with.
@@sebastianromero113 There are actually quite a few 40K "Knockoffs" for kit bashing, proxies, cost savings, and the like...but if you compare the cost of collecting a single army in 40K to the cost of a starter set in Battletech that comes ready to play with a few different playmat maps and enough mini's for two players, it's obvious that GW is price gouging, especially when the minis cost more than their weight in silver...
Man...this was almost as rough to watch as the later parts of the Predator Hunting Grounds stream where Joe just fell silent and started wincing in pain and total dismay.
"resume a game after disconnection and pause system" they straight tell you that if you get disconnected you cant restart a game nor can you pause it. And it won't be a feature until season 2? Out the gate they tell you it's unfinished lmao
we always complain, but these tactics seem to always bring money to these people. We will hate them now and they will cry in their money beds sadly. If TB was alive, I can already see his ''I will now talk about BB3's monetization for 27 minutes'' video. This is just a reality now.
@@TheRealUcanUwill nah not true , i really think they would make more money over a long period of time if they just respect the fans and make a decent game , instead of this quick cashgrab
The funny thing is in the trailer for the game the in game coach jokes about running out of money so his team can't have armour dident know it was an actual mechanic of the game.
@@williamyoung9401 . i think its less the roadmap thing, and more the fact they havent even finished the game and they are selling you almost 30 bucks of DLC
Also? I watched the 'cheerleaders' and I winced so hard. Can you imagine being the one singular cheerleader in front of all those murderers trying to dance? And what a dance they do; so stiff and robotic it might as well have been Wall-E out there doing it. This... this makes me so sad.
I had the same reaction when I saw 1000 warpstone offered with the deluxe version... I couldn't believe my eyes and disgusted me so much that I don't even want to see those devs anymore. Did you look at the version of warpstones vs $$$ ? It's even worse than you think !
Every time I see a micro transaction store with outrageous prices and schemes that I ask myself ok what the hell was they thinking in the dev room “oh yea everyone’s gonna love these micro transactions”
I simply want to make sure blame goes where it should. Developers are usually the actually passionate people who want the consumer to enjoy their product. It’s business side that wants to wring every cent out of a player base no matter the cost.
In over a decade if watching Joe, I dont think he has ever been literally rendered "broken" and completely speechless over a game....right? Blood Bowl finally did it.
Yeah I feel that Blood Bowl was more personal because he'd recommended the previous series of the game as a alternate for madden, so to see it to become something even more greedy then madden in transactions is sad.
Here is how the customizations should be. First it should be an in game currency and second the currency should be tied to each player independently. Each player should have a set amount of currency to start, and each player gains a set amount of currency per SP point earned. This would allow some customization in the beginning to showcase differences between players and allow higher skilled players to showcase ever more elaborate getups.
@PorchMankey We're in a bad state in gaming when all future gamers going forward are going to be forced (by these greedy devs) to only use microtransactions in games to customize and unlock anything and where devs won't even give players an option to earn these items accumulating in game currency, sad state when in game currency (that doesn't cost anything IRL) isn't even being added anymore :/
The last one I tried was based on Necromunda. Just terrible. And when you really want them to succeed and they shovel out crap it's always disheartening.
Data miners have found that all the factions are already ready to play and in the game files. But they removed them from launch and pay walled them behind season pass
Not super familiar with this game but it seems like if they want to encourage people to spend money on customization they could offer a service to turn your fully customized models into 3d printer instructions so there is some of physical reason to customize your team. They've got the 3d wire mesh model generated it wouldn't be a huge cost to convert . It would also make tabletop players excited to play and buy customization
Yeah i would say if you really want to go for it , just wait until they release a complete edition , they did this with bloodbowl 2 but it wasn't a full dlc pack customization , you can even gain free custom by doing AI tournament in that game .
Stop. By saying this you are making it seem like if it was finished but had this cosmetic MTX situation it would be okay. It wouldn’t. So stop distracting from the real issue.
@@AFpaleoCon ? If you didn't know , bloodbowl 2 wasn't complete before a moment after release with missing team and improved feature . There is some customization in bloodbowl 2 but it's basically just color team swap and even if you can pay for it , you can have it for free by playing against the computer in tournament mode.
@@sinjoh53 Bloodbowl 2 was later purchasable in it's entirety for cheap in sales later at least. Do not conflate BB2 with this very different Microtransaction business model. At a basic level of principle this is beyond unacceptable. It was already poor on the part of BB2 to blatantly lack any decent level of customisation. while it might exist in BB3, it is just simply not an option in the eyes of any reasonable person. If I won the lottery tomorrow I would still never buy this game. The game as is, simply deserves to fail or have all content added to the base game. Be a player or a customer, not a "user" or an exploitation victim.
This was gonna be the first blood bowl game I got until I saw that it was $30 but the kicker was that it said 1000 warp points so I thought it was gonna be a pay to win game. The steam rating and this video makes me glad that I ain’t risk it
You can only buy cosmetic items so not pay to win, pay to look pretty. But boy did they do that in the most aggressive and insulting way possible. I was a long time player of BB2 and I will get 3, but only after they make some big updates and fix the game, including changing their MTX offerings to be less demeaning
@@earwig1000 also fumbbl lets you play blood bowl for free (i believe they already are using most of boardgame rules - a thing bb3 "promises" to do during last quarter of this year), only downside with fumbbl is that its java based with kinda ugly (but charming for some) 2d graphics - and sometimes user needs to do some tweaking to get everything to work properly (many have issues with the size of the game and need to use windows's magnifying glass feature to actually see what is happening).. but other than that it does blood bowl better than any of Cyanide games. Heck, they have active community making various mods for blood bowl like "pokemon league" or "secret league" with over 80 teams already. Before i bought bb2 i started at fumbbl (back in previous ruleset system, i have not been playing in past few years so don't know all ins and outs for new rules and how fumbbl has intergraded them - but last i read was that they already implemented some of them and were planning to implement rest later - this was few years ago so i assume that they have progressed with that).
Blood Bowl 2 pulled similar crap. The game shipped with only 6-teams (most of which sucked) and if you wanted more teams (better ones) then you had to pay (for each team). They purposefully held back teams that should have shipped with the game so that they could nickel & dime the consumer base. This garnered them a lot of anger. Apparently thy didn't learn their lesson.
Wow. I finally got around to watching this & that damn shit got kicked out of the Steam wishlist immediately. Sucks because I loved Mutant League Football.
Knowing ea they just haven’t thought about it yet. Once they see what this game is selling they’re gonna be like oooo that’s a good idea put it in the next madden
Wait until Joe finds out that the three teams going to be released over the rest of the year are already done and completely playable in the game files that people have datamined. Console release is worse, random whether the connection works, ai freezes for minutes at a time, and the premium store only loads a third of the assets
I’ve said this from the start: 1. BB2 has better animations 2. BB2 has better modelling design 3. BB3 looks like a mobile game over all 4. BB3 looks and feels juvenile and that is not what BB is at all. 5. GW physical model design don’t translate well to a high resolution digital game so that design decision to keep them exactly the same was just piss poor. 6. The colours in this game is AWFULL 7. BB2 was a labour of love. BB3 is a labour of a out of the loop sales department with a Yes Man project leader who have a understaffed team of developers that been working from home in their underwear since 2019. This is so sad but this is the aftermath from the shutdown years
At the start I was like surely it can't be that bad then I saw the paid cosmetics and how much it would cost to get them all... WTF were they thinking way to kill a game on arrival
Does not matter, just look at the madden games or any football game where you buy cards and shit, every year they make billions of it, because you know why people like shiny meaningless shit, it triggers their brain and year after year they buy the same shitty cards but for another "Updated version" of the same game from the previous year, and its getting sloppier and sloppier...there should be an instance that look and preview games before they are released to hold a standard to be refered to as a game and not a gambling payment casino bullshit.
Yep they got me on that one ... even bought the brutal edition, but they lied their ass off on that one and we were surprised by micro-transaction and a game that's barely an early access even though it was sold as a complete product, even the store page doesn't the early access tag.
@@im-high-and-watching-youtube Well not fully, bought it on IG a LONG time ago for the price of a standard edition. So I got surprised and couldn't do anything about it, still in the grey zone though.
I'll be honest Joe, I enjoy watching your rant videos, it might grab the attention of a few people and stop people from making crazy purchases. But unfortunately the more rant videos, the more companies expect this strategy to work and I hope one day will go back to the days of EARNING items. Working hard to earn that armor piece, earning that item. Those are the days I miss
I only watch these videos when my spouse is asleep to challenge myself when to turn down and turn up volume and try to determine when Joe is gonna rage in anger. I love these videos.
@@names_are_useless Yeah they did. Cyan tokens could be purchased for real money and used to unlock uniforms for teams. Yeah you could earn some cyans for free by leveling up your coach rank but you capped out that process long before getting even half of what was available.
@@SchwhatNow I totally forgot about Cyan Tokens. Still, what was being done with Cyan Tokens was merely Uniforms and nothing more. This is FAR more egregious.
@@names_are_useless Indeed this is far worse but that is how companies operate. They keep cranking the dial until the outrage is too much for them to ignore.
You are right, not everybody can do what Diablo Immortal did XD Anyways, I was looking forward for this game, but now I am NOT going to buy it. Even if they fix it. Just the fact that they thought they could get away with THAT!
I have 479 hours of playtime on BB2. 2 DLC bought. Blood Bowl 3 is just beyond scandaleous in all its ways. Cyanide is a French studio and I am French, this could be literally be considered as fucking scam attempt at this point. And they are charging like 5$ for customization of a player that could die and disappear ? I mean what you want me to give you like 1000$ for repair customization in this game ??? No Cyanide, just NO. This is a betrayal of all the little community of fans who supported you since blood bowl 2.
And more importantly coffeestain publishers for not pushing bullshit monetization schemes. So many bad publishers that we have to give praise to the good ones like coffeestain and devolver digital.
This is exactly why I stopped gaming altogether it’s just ridiculous at this point and really predatory towards people who have like ocd conditions who feel like they need everything 😭
Imagine being Joe's neighbor, you go out and get that game you were really excited for you get home and you hear Joe yelling from next door and you get sad lol
🤣🤣
That's a good thing.
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@@imsentinelprime9279 nah because you would have bought a bad game..
"Oh hey they have the blue col--aaand never mind."
The fact that joe can go on a “FUCKING BLUE” rant in every damn one of these videos is extremely entertaining for me.
Life finds a way
It's hilariously sad how Evolve, a game from 8 years ago did an unintentional service by giving birth to one of my favorite AJ memes.
I seriously think some developers intentionally put something in blue JUST to try to piss off Joe lol.
I just took one look at that cheerleader icon and thought, "yep, it's happening..."
i think he has Blue PTSD by now. the channels avatar should be changed ...Other Joe...quick before your friends ends up in an asylum screaming every second of every day "BLUE....its god damn BLUE!"
This is where "it's only cosmetic" leads to. As if looking cool isn't part of the game.
Exactly, drives me crazy when people don’t realize they’ve been asking for this shit all along. Maybe not explicitly, but definitely with their wallet, and that’s really all corporations care about.
BB2 even let you change the Heads of all your Players for Free.
And honestly, I wouldn't even mind paying to look cool as long as it came with an hour or so of content. Yes, I paid money to dress up my paper dolls, but I had to do a quest with a little bit of content to completely unlock it.
Modern gaming is literally dressing up paperdolls with no actual content.
@@names_are_uselessYeah but how many dlcs are there for the full game experience?? Piece of crap games, devs, and publisher.
Why not take it all the way and just have colored dots for your players, if you want it to look cool, pay up.
“Not even madden has the balls to sell exclusive balls.” The delivery was perfect.
“We got your exclusive balls RIGHT HERE.”
But does this game sell bue balls?
Another thing that Joe doesn’t touch on is that data miners found SEVEN teams in the files completely ready to play that are just locked behind a paywall for future paid dlc. Including my favorites Lizardman, necromatic, and wood elf. Unbelievably egregious
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with Blood Bowl 2: Legendary Edition because I want to play my Lizardmen team without having to pay money to get them as DLC when they're already in the game files ready to play.
This essentially the Street Fighter X Tekken character DLC but worse.
At this rate I'll wait for the goty edition and wait for that review. Just a sad day for Blood bowl fans
Blood Bowl 2 pulled the same crap when it was first released. It held back the popular teams to sell separately. There was plenty of outrage. Later instead of dropping the price, they just added the teams to keep the price as high as possible for as long as possible. Eventually they had to lower the price. But at launch, the game shipped with only 6 of the bare-bones teams and all the good teams had to be purchased separately. Apparently, they haven't learned their lesson. I will never buy another BB game ever again.
Makes me want to vomit that ready to go content is just locked behind a paywall just for corporate greed.
You gotta admit that charging crazy prices for every little thing, from characters to colours, accurately represents the Games Workshop experience...
actually BB is cheap, you just pay for team box 30$ and you are pretty much ready to go.
@@sebastianromero113 Not really if you want every positional, you'll need multiple copies of the "teams" plus the big guys tend to be sold seperately(and there are teams that have multiple)
A fully kitted BB team using GW minis is def 100$+.
Though there are very awesome third party options that GW is actively trying to kill without pissing off the community.
@Sebastian Romero The game is not playable with a single $30 purchase. You are being very disingenuous. Like any GW product, it is $200 or more to start, and it just piles on after that. Pathetic shill.
It's the GW experience in video game form for sure. Broken, overpriced, and soulless.
It don't matter yall still buy it.. that's why they do it
You must always appreciate when the game doesn't work properly, but the cash shop works flawlessly. xD
Appreciate by getting a refund and boycotting such abusive trash.
It doesn’t even work flawlessly. If you buy things in the shop too quick in succession (say because you want to give your whole team the same helmet) it sometimes skips purchases. It still bills your but you don’t get the item.
That game looks so BORING! 😴
@@zerg0s even if I won the lottery, I would not buy the game with this business model. Let alone the wallet-rape customisation options that should just be part of the base game.
Giving them money for this abuse tells them it is OK.
Halo Infinite in a nutshell...
Joe didn't even mention the fact that people have found SEVEN of the game's upcoming DLC teams that're fully playable RIGHT NOW locked away in the games code.
He can only get so angry in one video.
@@Deadman6 can he tho?
Now if they can only find a way to hack in Unlimited Warpstones.
oh man, even more proof to show those people who say DLC isn't taken out of the main game.
Sounds pike what thry did with destiny. Players were glitching into dlc content areas in the first month it was out.
Blood Bowl's team is gonna see Joe's angry rant and go... "You know, Joe is right, we need more touchdown animations.... which can be YOURS for only 1 dollar an animation!!!"
".....Consumable."
@@dixieduffy7 "... for one (1) game"
Yup & that animation will be one time use only, meaning the next time, the tough down animation won't exist & you will have to pay for another touch down animation, spending another dollar
Sounds great right?
@@uhm175 Touchdown itself wouldnt count unless you pay. :)
Losing TotalBiscuit was like losing our war general. Dealt such a major blow to the consumer side of the gaming industry, at the very least.
Can only wonder how he'd react to this, considering how much he enjoyed Blood Bowl.. and even played together with (against) AJ.
To be honest the game industry wouldn’t have listened if he was still alive. You have still have people like Joe and Jim Sterling calling out these stupid practices and the game industry just laughs about it. Total Biscuit’s death just made the process faster, but in no way would his life hinder the process indefinitely.
he was an incel
like you
@@Unchainedful true. None of them ever listens to gamers. The reason is, we are not the customer. People who buy games, are not the customer. With the Live service rush, we are the product. Or more so, the whales are the product. They are the ones being sold to “investors”, I put them in quotes because they are more like Short Term Speculators. When they took over the majority for businesses like this, instead of long term investors; everything is at the mercy of the pressure for the unsustainable constant increases every quarter. They only listen to money because nobody is counting quality or customer satisfaction, they are simply selling to Short Term people who only sees money. The only way we’ve seen a fight back of this, is seeing that industry implode.
They engorge themselves to death because they are chasing a small fraction of gamers who pay the big bucks. Problem is, they only have limited time to play games, and can’t sustain THAT many games like that. It would be easier to sustain if they got the majority of gamers to pay up. But that isn’t the case. Like the many Live service games that already shut down this year, we’re looking at another MMO situation.
TB supported lootboxes in Overwatch
@@DJRiyzen Look at it now though. You could at least earn everything for free, any chance of that now?
This angry rant had a little of everything for the long time Angry Joe viewer. 10/10
This rant is nothing compared to his madden rants. They never get old to watch lol
Needs more Corporate Commander. 7/10 would likely rage along again. (Especially since i'm a *Wood Elf* player. Oh don't get us *started!* >.
@Nick Zotixx Yeah but Joe is a hardcore Warhammer fan so this rant is especially personal for him.
I was practically salivating wait for the “are y- are you- ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIND?!?!?!?
When AJ is speechless, you know he's really pissed. This was supposed to be a relaxing, fun diversion away from Madden, and it's WORSE than Madden. Congrats, Cyanide. You broke Angry Joe... Mission Accomplished! This is what Warhammer does now. They breakup and sell you the game piece meal. The entire Warhammer 1, 2, and 3 Total War experience should have been one (1) game with MAYBE one (1) or two (2) DLCs. Not this... (3:50)
Hey joe those customisations can only be equipped to one player at a time cant all use the same head also all the future teams models were found within the game 5+. The game also reuses alot of animations from bb2 aswell as all the commentary dialogue. Thank you for being the big voice to point out its bad and not be paid off like some people have been trying to make it look good and saying unfinished is fine
Whilst I agree… he failed to mention that the currency can be earnt in game.
I turned the commentary off mid game one when they repeated the same line.. for the 10th time.
They better polish the fkin game.
@@mordsythe it literally can't be earned in game right now, and it's supposed to be full release.
And if it's about the future battle pass, you and I don't know anything about how it'll be implemented, you shouldn't trust these devs so blindly.
@@MrOrzeker I don’t trust them after they released the same game with a FEW minor updates.
But to not even mention it, does a bit of a dis service.
He could have quite literally mentioned how the ability isn’t in the game and how they “say” it can be earnt.
Ya get me?
@@mordsythe Why would he mention something that's not guaranteed? If you can't earn it in-game at the start then that's just a negative, no promises in the future changes that that's super scummy.
@@mordsythe They always say, "I'm not giving credit for something that should've been there to begin with"
Dataminers found that they already have 7 teams finished hiding behind a paywall from day 1.
how do they know that they are finished?
@@SeeAndDreamify probably means to a base level ready to receive microtransaction customisation. whether they function or not is not guaranteed and "was never promised" though.
@@SeeAndDreamify because they are copy of BB2 teamss
@@SeeAndDreamifyif the devs are as stupid as they appear to be (trying to pull such a blatant rip off), then probably the code is already there, just inactive till you pay your dolladolla bills
@@SeeAndDreamify .because their data is in the base game? hence data miners found it.
same crap happened to me on shadow of war, on the DAY ONE version of the game there was a bug that would let you get legendary gear from a yet to be released orc tribe(DLC), proving the whole thing was already done, just chopped up to be added as DLC later
It's like when your streaming service buffers during your show, but the ads run perfectly
This isn't just greed anymore. Its pure evil.
Weapons manufacturers are pure evil. Price gouging pharma companies are pure evil. This is a videogame that you can just not play, get some perspective. The people involved are likely psychopaths but I'd rather they were gouging the shit out of people for some bad videogame than insulin.
Some greedy game corporation are evil dude my god MODERN GAME SUCK this days
I wouldn't say evil, but it is very shitty and pure greed.
@@SuicidalImpulse nah, I'd say evil is pretty darn accurate.
Like Joe said not even EA and it's Madden series were this bad with the microtransactions.
Gaming has entered its "80s" phase. Endless remasters and corporate rinse outs.
The next big industry crash is just a matter of time now.
Most of... anything has entered the 80s phase actually, particularly movies, not just aesthetically
Wow. The 80s must have sucked.
@colt1903 It certainly sucked from a wealth gap perspective. Thanks to Reagan's antics, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
@@jlev1028 the only reason the poor are poor is because they accept it. If they chose im sure they can rise above the hardships and succeed. Success is earned, lets not say that others are fed with a golden spoon, since not true
Btw I just read in the steam reviews, that the "to be released team - lizardmen" are already in the game files, so they took it out on purpose to sell it later
There's already 7 teams that we don't have in the files, 2 years worth of dlc.
The lizardman it's even worse, they're fully playable already.
They need to keep players around long enough to try and fix this mess
@@MrOrzeker same shit they did w blood bowl 2
again
this is just blood bowl 2 again
typical brain dead gw shit tbh
This is disappointing playing lizard men in friends' tourney and wanted some extra practice with them and experiment with new rosters
@@Nomadic_Gaming GW as nothing to do with development, cyanide does, and because thet failed in bb2 doesn't make it ok, it's even worse.
I was literally going to buy this game when I got my next paycheck. Joe yet again coming in clutch, sparing my wallet.
Yeah... this just breaks my heart. 💔 I thought that this was to simulate the game, but this is just cheap. I wanted to grab a bite of the game, to see if it's fit to get into the physical version. If nothing else, I thought I could have passed in some "support " by getting the game...
The NFL probably got to Cyanide and said, "We can't run the risk of you making a football simulator so good, people might stop watching actual football with actual concussions. Make it crappy, or you will pay."
he a good bean indeed
Stop blindly buying games brand new
Yes me too, at first i saw the negative response on Steam of the people then i watched Joe...and now i stay with BBII
I've been a league commissioner for almost 14 years and I have never been this upset at blood bowl. I can't even describe how MAD I am at this level of insanity. I got banned from their discord forum for posting my thoughts.
😅🤣HAHA!!!!
Considering how simplistic the actual gameplay is and how few assets are needed for it, there is no excuse for there to not be hundreds if not thousands of customization options as part of the base game. Eitherway, I hope this part of a livestream because I would love to watch the whole video when the vod comes out.
The price gouging by Games Workshop is why so many of us turned to 3D printing our own teams or just moving onto other games in a similar theme.
This is going to sour even more people on BloodBowl
Which is better for model making, PLA or Resin?
@@raikouija663 Resin. PLA is better for bigger items, but resin is much more detailed for miniatures, and doesn't need to be as robust as PLA is to start with.
similar theme?
@@sebastianromero113 There are actually quite a few 40K "Knockoffs" for kit bashing, proxies, cost savings, and the like...but if you compare the cost of collecting a single army in 40K to the cost of a starter set in Battletech that comes ready to play with a few different playmat maps and enough mini's for two players, it's obvious that GW is price gouging, especially when the minis cost more than their weight in silver...
@@42Mrgreenman GWs profit margin is almost 70% on all product. They could sell their 200$ model kits for half the price and still make profit.
That cheerleader's face says everything. It's soulless.
They were like "nah we won't just sell you blue, we will sell you blue cheerleader!"
_One_ blue cheerleader.
Is that a blue cheerleader.
But it's a blue, BRUTAL cheerleader!
Saw this finally released, said to myself "okay I'll check it out after work tomorrow" and I was happy. I'm not happy anymore.
Man...this was almost as rough to watch as the later parts of the Predator Hunting Grounds stream where Joe just fell silent and started wincing in pain and total dismay.
"resume a game after disconnection and pause system" they straight tell you that if you get disconnected you cant restart a game nor can you pause it. And it won't be a feature until season 2? Out the gate they tell you it's unfinished lmao
This is not greedy, this is just pure balls-out. They believe people will take them seriously after that?
Gotta cash in on whales lol I mean suckers
we always complain, but these tactics seem to always bring money to these people. We will hate them now and they will cry in their money beds sadly. If TB was alive, I can already see his ''I will now talk about BB3's monetization for 27 minutes'' video. This is just a reality now.
@@TheRealUcanUwill nah not true , i really think they would make more money over a long period of time if they just respect the fans and make a decent game , instead of this quick cashgrab
@@TheRealUcanUwill👎
April fools is around the corner, maybe they're just celebrating early?
The funny thing is in the trailer for the game the in game coach jokes about running out of money so his team can't have armour dident know it was an actual mechanic of the game.
i feel dirty for even having this on my wishlist. I cant believe theyve done this
I've waited 3 years for this game. After the delays, it finally releases and smacks me right in the face. Hopefully it gets fixed within the year.
Welp, it's been a year, and.......no. No, it has not been fixed.
6:10 i love how the game is unfinished, but each season definitly has a "blood pass"
You can rest assured knowing the cash shop will work as intended
@@LazyCreepypasta Sounds exactly as Darktide LMAO
@@erykaldo2l270 I heard haha there was another game I forgot it’s name where everything was broken and glitchy but the cash shop work flawlessly lol
@@LazyCreepypasta actually I hear it has connection issues. The cash shop, that is.
Users already dug up 7 extra factions in game files. Fully functional. Meant to be sold as DLC later.
Pulling a X Tekken, are we?
Ahhh my day is now complete. I love angry joe. So passionate,so full of emotion, so full of blood vessels popping out.
BLUE SPIKES!😂
If you see the words "Road Map" on your game, run away...far away...fast. (5:55)
@@williamyoung9401 . i think its less the roadmap thing, and more the fact they havent even finished the game and they are selling you almost 30 bucks of DLC
Also? I watched the 'cheerleaders' and I winced so hard. Can you imagine being the one singular cheerleader in front of all those murderers trying to dance? And what a dance they do; so stiff and robotic it might as well have been Wall-E out there doing it. This... this makes me so sad.
I had the same reaction when I saw 1000 warpstone offered with the deluxe version... I couldn't believe my eyes and disgusted me so much that I don't even want to see those devs anymore.
Did you look at the version of warpstones vs $$$ ? It's even worse than you think !
Every time I see a micro transaction store with outrageous prices and schemes that I ask myself ok what the hell was they thinking in the dev room “oh yea everyone’s gonna love these micro transactions”
Do you really think this came from the dev room?
@@wargriz8213 do you understand sarcasm? Of course it doesn’t come from a dev room 🤫
It might seem its devs coming up with these, but no its hired pricing especialists that deal with these. Probably those that dont play games.
I simply want to make sure blame goes where it should. Developers are usually the actually passionate people who want the consumer to enjoy their product. It’s business side that wants to wring every cent out of a player base no matter the cost.
@@wargriz8213 ok I got you not tryna target devs just a lil joke that’s all
In over a decade if watching Joe, I dont think he has ever been literally rendered "broken" and completely speechless over a game....right? Blood Bowl finally did it.
Yeah I feel that Blood Bowl was more personal because he'd recommended the previous series of the game as a alternate for madden, so to see it to become something even more greedy then madden in transactions is sad.
Yeah not even madden broke him
@@angryfoxgaming6276 Because everyone expects Madden to be shit. This could've been good.
This pleases Nuffle. xD
@@mjmjoseph1580 of course it was more personal, he's a die-hard Warhammer fan, which is the same universe as Blood Bowl.
Thanks BB for giving EA new ideas
Here is how the customizations should be.
First it should be an in game currency and second the currency should be tied to each player independently.
Each player should have a set amount of currency to start, and each player gains a set amount of currency per SP point earned.
This would allow some customization in the beginning to showcase differences between players and allow higher skilled players to showcase ever more elaborate getups.
No
Angry Joe is the Gordon Ramsay of video games
A lot of these companies are just punishing their fans at this point.
@PorchMankey We're in a bad state in gaming when all future gamers going forward are going to be forced (by these greedy devs) to only use microtransactions in games to customize and unlock anything and where devs won't even give players an option to earn these items accumulating in game currency, sad state when in game currency (that doesn't cost anything IRL) isn't even being added anymore :/
3:51 You broke me 😂 . Such a real moment of no words for disgust and pure frustration. The 👉 point at you done Joe broke me 😆 🤣
Never got into warhammer but the lore and universe has always intrigued me, i would have been interested in this game if it was a FULL game.
For what it's worth, Blood Bowl 2 is still good.
Just avoid Blood Bowl 3 like the plague for the foreseeable future.
@@adamlakeman7240 until they pull out of the market like they did angry birds
There are good WH40K games out there. Lots of unfinished, greedy, terrible ones, but a few good ones too. Much like the tabletop models.
The last one I tried was based on Necromunda. Just terrible. And when you really want them to succeed and they shovel out crap it's always disheartening.
@@sambauman69
Mechanicus
Inquisitor Martyr
Space Marine
Gladius
Chaos Gate
Darktide
Dawn of War 1 and 2
Battlesector
All of these are pretty decent.
He's angry now, wait til he finds out the customizations are one time use only!
I’d rather the game be $60 and all the customization is in it. Now instead of $30+microtrans or $60 flat, they get $0 from me!
Well that answers the question if I was going to buy this thanks Joe 😂
Joe, please do more angry rants, I love them so much!
You might and as funny as it is to see Joe get angry he doesn't actually enjoy them he would rather good games with no monetization or less.
You need a life
it takes alot out of him....
This one has to especially hurt for Joe since he's such a massive Warhammer fan.
Data miners have found that all the factions are already ready to play and in the game files. But they removed them from launch and pay walled them behind season pass
Not super familiar with this game but it seems like if they want to encourage people to spend money on customization they could offer a service to turn your fully customized models into 3d printer instructions so there is some of physical reason to customize your team. They've got the 3d wire mesh model generated it wouldn't be a huge cost to convert . It would also make tabletop players excited to play and buy customization
I was watching Northernlion try to play this and it was just kinda sad how unfinished it was
Yeah i would say if you really want to go for it , just wait until they release a complete edition , they did this with bloodbowl 2 but it wasn't a full dlc pack customization , you can even gain free custom by doing AI tournament in that game .
Stop. By saying this you are making it seem like if it was finished but had this cosmetic MTX situation it would be okay. It wouldn’t. So stop distracting from the real issue.
@@AFpaleoCon ? If you didn't know , bloodbowl 2 wasn't complete before a moment after release with missing team and improved feature . There is some customization in bloodbowl 2 but it's basically just color team swap and even if you can pay for it , you can have it for free by playing against the computer in tournament mode.
@@sinjoh53 Bloodbowl 2 was later purchasable in it's entirety for cheap in sales later at least. Do not conflate BB2 with this very different Microtransaction business model. At a basic level of principle this is beyond unacceptable. It was already poor on the part of BB2 to blatantly lack any decent level of customisation. while it might exist in BB3, it is just simply not an option in the eyes of any reasonable person.
If I won the lottery tomorrow I would still never buy this game. The game as is, simply deserves to fail or have all content added to the base game. Be a player or a customer, not a "user" or an exploitation victim.
This was gonna be the first blood bowl game I got until I saw that it was $30 but the kicker was that it said 1000 warp points so I thought it was gonna be a pay to win game. The steam rating and this video makes me glad that I ain’t risk it
You can get BB2 pretty cheap.
You can only buy cosmetic items so not pay to win, pay to look pretty. But boy did they do that in the most aggressive and insulting way possible. I was a long time player of BB2 and I will get 3, but only after they make some big updates and fix the game, including changing their MTX offerings to be less demeaning
@@earwig1000 also fumbbl lets you play blood bowl for free (i believe they already are using most of boardgame rules - a thing bb3 "promises" to do during last quarter of this year), only downside with fumbbl is that its java based with kinda ugly (but charming for some) 2d graphics - and sometimes user needs to do some tweaking to get everything to work properly (many have issues with the size of the game and need to use windows's magnifying glass feature to actually see what is happening).. but other than that it does blood bowl better than any of Cyanide games. Heck, they have active community making various mods for blood bowl like "pokemon league" or "secret league" with over 80 teams already. Before i bought bb2 i started at fumbbl (back in previous ruleset system, i have not been playing in past few years so don't know all ins and outs for new rules and how fumbbl has intergraded them - but last i read was that they already implemented some of them and were planning to implement rest later - this was few years ago so i assume that they have progressed with that).
This broke my heart. I was so locking forward to this game and now....
Im just so sad now....
That's why I don't get excited for things like this anymore. This happens way too often now
Awful monetization and the game is not ready, bad and full of bugs.
Blood Bowl 2 pulled similar crap. The game shipped with only 6-teams (most of which sucked) and if you wanted more teams (better ones) then you had to pay (for each team). They purposefully held back teams that should have shipped with the game so that they could nickel & dime the consumer base. This garnered them a lot of anger. Apparently thy didn't learn their lesson.
I dont imagine this live service to make it more than a year, this is just EMBARASSING 😂
A Year! I will be really surprised if this piece of garbage last a couple of months!
A live service implies a subscription for constant updates. This is hiding the game behind dlc.
I can’t believe it they found a way to make you pay for the SAME cosmetic multiple times
that's criminal, I was going for embarrassing but no, it's criminal
Saw all the reviews on steam and was waiting for this.
Wow. I finally got around to watching this & that damn shit got kicked out of the Steam wishlist immediately. Sucks because I loved Mutant League Football.
hold up.. “Replay after disconnect” is feature on the a season pass roadmap?? Did I understand that correctly???? 🤨
Greed is getting to be a part in every game
it aslready is a part of every game thats y i dont really buy games anymore once it goes all digital im quitting gaming for good
@@NytrusdeathcydeYou won't be missed.
You know, it’s a disaster in the making when angry Joe acknowledges that Madden/EA wouldn’t nickel & dime this despicably 😮
Knowing ea they just haven’t thought about it yet. Once they see what this game is selling they’re gonna be like oooo that’s a good idea put it in the next madden
Yeah, even Madden doesn't have the BALLS to sell motherf*****g BALLS.
This sure is making his blood boil
Tfw the only good "rugby/footbal" games are Legendary Bowl and Mutant Football League.
Wait until Joe finds out that the three teams going to be released over the rest of the year are already done and completely playable in the game files that people have datamined. Console release is worse, random whether the connection works, ai freezes for minutes at a time, and the premium store only loads a third of the assets
He won't find out because he's not a big fan like he claims.
I'm so sad. Honestly even the announcers say the same things they said in bloodbowl 2. I'm heartbroken.
My favorite thing he says when he’s mad is “are you- ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIND!” Followed by a camera shake
"You were the Chosen One!
It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them!
Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!"
The gameplay and graphics looks like a game from 2008 or something lol.... And this type of greed gives me hemorrhoids.
Hey Joe! Have you ever thought about wearing a heart rate monitor during an angry rant so that we can see the beeping get faster the angrier you get?
Sells balls. EA: "WRITE IT DOWN!"
Lool
Poor Joe man, you can tell this one got to him.
Saw the reviews on Steam and knew this was coming. Didn't even know this game was coming out
17:40 The little 2D jpeg flames coming out the top of the helm were what really sold it for me and are worth the 750 asking price lol
I’ve said this from the start:
1. BB2 has better animations
2. BB2 has better modelling design
3. BB3 looks like a mobile game over all
4. BB3 looks and feels juvenile and that is not what BB is at all.
5. GW physical model design don’t translate well to a high resolution digital game so that design decision to keep them exactly the same was just piss poor.
6. The colours in this game is AWFULL
7. BB2 was a labour of love. BB3 is a labour of a out of the loop sales department with a Yes Man project leader who have a understaffed team of developers that been working from home in their underwear since 2019.
This is so sad but this is the aftermath from the shutdown years
At the start I was like surely it can't be that bad then I saw the paid cosmetics and how much it would cost to get them all... WTF were they thinking way to kill a game on arrival
I've never seen Joe so broken... even Ride to Hell didn't manage this amount of rage.
these companies don't seem to understand the power of influencers like Joe...
Does not matter, just look at the madden games or any football game where you buy cards and shit, every year they make billions of it, because you know why people like shiny meaningless shit, it triggers their brain and year after year they buy the same shitty cards but for another "Updated version" of the same game from the previous year, and its getting sloppier and sloppier...there should be an instance that look and preview games before they are released to hold a standard to be refered to as a game and not a gambling payment casino bullshit.
Thank God I watched this video because I was actually thinking of buying that game but I will not now
What a disaster... Removed from wishlist
Yeah I saw the reviews and it looks like even for free to play standards (which this is NOT a free to play game) they are extremely egregious.
Yep they got me on that one ... even bought the brutal edition, but they lied their ass off on that one and we were surprised by micro-transaction and a game that's barely an early access even though it was sold as a complete product, even the store page doesn't the early access tag.
Thanks for contributing to the problem 😊
@@im-high-and-watching-youtube Well not fully, bought it on IG a LONG time ago for the price of a standard edition.
So I got surprised and couldn't do anything about it, still in the grey zone though.
Stop pre-ordering digital editions. You're paying more for less.
It's stuff like this that makes me glad Total Warhammer exists. Otherwise, Warhammer Fantasy just keeps getting kicked while down
Not gonna lie, those logos look like they were done by some random highschool kid, who isn't even going to art class.
“Do I see blue” - AngryJoe
I'll be honest Joe, I enjoy watching your rant videos, it might grab the attention of a few people and stop people from making crazy purchases. But unfortunately the more rant videos, the more companies expect this strategy to work and I hope one day will go back to the days of EARNING items. Working hard to earn that armor piece, earning that item. Those are the days I miss
Im so glad someone I watch is actually reviewing this. I was super excited but now I am hesitant with reviews
It's always fun seeing another one of these Angry Rants.
I love that the pause function is in the roadmap for Season 2
I only watch these videos when my spouse is asleep to challenge myself when to turn down and turn up volume and try to determine when Joe is gonna rage in anger. I love these videos.
Was really worried about this one. Even 2 felt kind of scummy after so much time in 1.
BB2 never included microtransactions though.
@@names_are_useless Yeah they did. Cyan tokens could be purchased for real money and used to unlock uniforms for teams. Yeah you could earn some cyans for free by leveling up your coach rank but you capped out that process long before getting even half of what was available.
@@SchwhatNow I totally forgot about Cyan Tokens. Still, what was being done with Cyan Tokens was merely Uniforms and nothing more. This is FAR more egregious.
@@names_are_useless Indeed this is far worse but that is how companies operate. They keep cranking the dial until the outrage is too much for them to ignore.
So glad you’re covering this. What could have been an absolutely brilliant game is a complete disaster. Blood bowl deserves so much better
This might be one the the most obviously lazy games I've seen in years, the devs should be ashamed.
You are right, not everybody can do what Diablo Immortal did XD Anyways, I was looking forward for this game, but now I am NOT going to buy it. Even if they fix it. Just the fact that they thought they could get away with THAT!
Same i was seconds away from getting this game then i decided to watch this video
I have 479 hours of playtime on BB2. 2 DLC bought. Blood Bowl 3 is just beyond scandaleous in all its ways. Cyanide is a French studio and I am French, this could be literally be considered as fucking scam attempt at this point. And they are charging like 5$ for customization of a player that could die and disappear ? I mean what you want me to give you like 1000$ for repair customization in this game ??? No Cyanide, just NO. This is a betrayal of all the little community of fans who supported you since blood bowl 2.
This is why I will always love the devs at Ghost Ship Games.
Rock. And. Stone!
Did I hear a rock and stone!?
And more importantly coffeestain publishers for not pushing bullshit monetization schemes. So many bad publishers that we have to give praise to the good ones like coffeestain and devolver digital.
At that point, just play the board game
This should be a fun 18 minutes.
😆👍
This is exactly why I stopped gaming altogether it’s just ridiculous at this point and really predatory towards people who have like ocd conditions who feel like they need everything 😭
Wait till joe finds out that each cosmetic is for one match only lol