Some Things I've Learned about Songwriting in 25 Years | Cliff Goldmacher | TEDxMemphis

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2015
  • Cliff Goldmacher is a songwriter, session musician, producer, engineer and author. In his talk, he covers a few things he’s learned about songwriting in the twenty-five years he’s been doing it and plays snippets of a few of his songs to illustrate his points.
    In the music business for over twenty-five years, Cliff Goldmacher is a songwriter, producer, engineer, author and educator. His songwriting collaborators include Grammy award-winning and multi-platinum selling artists Keb’ Mo’, Ke$ha, Lisa Loeb, Grateful Dead drummer, Mickey Hart, and Chris Barron (Lead singer of the Spin Doctors).
    Cliff’s songs have been cut by major label artists in genres ranging from country, pop and jazz to classical crossover. His music has also been used on NPR’s “This American Life” and in national advertising campaigns. Cliff’s song, "Till You Come To Me,” went to #1 on the jazz charts.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

Комментарии • 131

  • @noahneevz5612
    @noahneevz5612 6 лет назад +56

    So many mad artists on this thread! Lesson 1: Balance Story and Emotion
    Lesson 2: Look for a fresh angle on a familiar topic.
    Lesson 3: Write from what you know.

    • @bassinblue
      @bassinblue 6 лет назад +11

      Writing a song is like trying to solve a murder case.

  • @santanacat8041
    @santanacat8041 5 лет назад +50

    A positive comment for a positive guy. He does what he loves, which is the ultimate success.

  • @emilythesongbird2306
    @emilythesongbird2306 7 лет назад +30

    Thank you Cliff! Your passion for songwriting really shines through. I've been writing songs for 15 years cause I can't help it. I appreciate your insight and sharing your gifts.

  • @brianhuber194
    @brianhuber194 5 лет назад +76

    I don't understand people ripping him for his voice. He's a songwriter, not a singer. Duh

    • @Boertje247
      @Boertje247 2 года назад +2

      Too RIGHT! If a raspy, weak, 2 note range singer like Willie Nelson can have a mega career spanning over seven decades, almost anyone can. Cliff is a brilliant songwriter. In the music business, you see moderately adept singers blaze to superstar, and brilliant musicians toil away in obscurity, never hitting ‘the big time’. His song “Not Quite” sung by Heather Rigdon, is a standard in the making.

  • @jimstone6071
    @jimstone6071 6 лет назад +19

    If you know anything about songwriting you can plainly see we can and should take ideas from who or wherever we can...Great job Cliff...

  • @rfblue
    @rfblue 8 лет назад +10

    I love this video of you Cliff. It really shows just who you are and you shine. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do for all of us. I feel so fortunate to have found you and Nashville Studio Live for my music!

  • @bryanwilliams3417
    @bryanwilliams3417 4 года назад +8

    Good advice! This gentleman is truly professional and talented. For those being rude and hateful about this video..please post your work so we can judge it. Otherwise, take the advice and improve and encourage other songwriters.

  • @bolivar1789
    @bolivar1789 5 лет назад +9

    What a beautiful and inspiring person and wonderful songwriter!

  • @agreedj3063
    @agreedj3063 4 года назад +6

    advice from experience, never turn down free advice, take what you can use, build your skills and have many. learn all the mechanics from a to z and keep learning and practicing. it never stops.

  • @natmasika
    @natmasika 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this clip. I have been stuck in my creativity. This reminded me what i have been forgetting in the process of writing one song after another.

  • @anitadraughon8003
    @anitadraughon8003 7 лет назад +4

    I am just commenting to Cliff. Thank you I enjoyed the video. You are very delightful to listen to. Quite talented, and very helpful. A pleasure.

  • @jimstone6071
    @jimstone6071 6 лет назад +25

    Hey people this man MAKES A LIVING WRITING .....NUFF SAID

  • @matheusnascimento4575
    @matheusnascimento4575 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video! Great songs! Thank you so much for the tips!

  • @emilydickinson-songsproject
    @emilydickinson-songsproject 4 года назад +3

    The balance between our emotions and lyrics
    is perhaps the most important and difficult rule

  • @psykonauta
    @psykonauta 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful! Thanks❤️

  • @Strwbrrywhip
    @Strwbrrywhip 6 лет назад +16

    the guy still non the less put together great four universal tips to writing songs. every song writer has their way for gods sake. but these can work for everyone. chill with mean comments.

  • @liabp6
    @liabp6 7 лет назад +6

    inspiring ❤

  • @SarahSpencerMusic
    @SarahSpencerMusic 8 лет назад +14

    Love Cliff! This is so great :)

  • @brianarmor3409
    @brianarmor3409 7 лет назад +27

    He speaks only about the lyrical content .... but there's another dimension, THE MUSIC!!

    • @bassinblue
      @bassinblue 6 лет назад +6

      Finally someone said this! 'Hey Jude' wouldn't be a classic if it was strummed with a ukulele...the orchestral involvement made it great and historic. You are correct, Brian.

    • @cameronsanchez2204
      @cameronsanchez2204 4 года назад

      Yeah honestly it doesn't really seem like that's what he's been focused on over the years...

    • @Boertje247
      @Boertje247 2 года назад

      @@bassinblue except, have you heard Jake Shimabukuru play it on the uke? Transformational. Without a beautiful tune, the lyrics are floating in the ether, untethered.

  • @juanpatino100
    @juanpatino100 8 лет назад +5

    Wowza! The good news is that if you ever get tired of the songwriting biz.....you've got a stand-up comedy career waiting in the wings as your back up plan. Just watched this twice and actually learned something about making tunes. You totally crushed it! Congrats, Juan Patino

  • @dav1dc293
    @dav1dc293 3 года назад

    Heartwarming, poignant and truthful. Thank you for this

  • @keonamichelle9625
    @keonamichelle9625 7 лет назад +3

    great video and some great points. Thanks from a song writer

  • @lukevader6331
    @lukevader6331 5 лет назад +2

    Right on brother and write on!

  • @CarynDPrescott
    @CarynDPrescott 4 года назад +3

    Excellent 😁

  • @nikgiengermakesmusic
    @nikgiengermakesmusic 7 лет назад +4

    taking the emotion out of music leaves it lifeless

    • @Nina-dk1sb
      @Nina-dk1sb 2 года назад +1

      He said to find a balance. 100% emotion is not it. It's a good tip because it causes tension and you eagerly await the breakdown / the emotion.

  • @adityapadode
    @adityapadode 7 лет назад +2

    Really cool!!!

  • @MarkRadice
    @MarkRadice 8 лет назад +7

    Good stuff Cliff :)

  • @privcraft_
    @privcraft_ 5 лет назад +3

    The third one is the nice guy anthem

  • @junglejetdriver
    @junglejetdriver 6 лет назад +6

    Working within parameters and light limits is great, but when you apply the same formula to each song, they all tend to sound the same. Songwriting is discovery, of what kinds of lyrics and sounds can be sculpted by different ratios of emotion and story and other elements of song. Everybody has their own sound.

    • @Boertje247
      @Boertje247 2 года назад

      Every lyricist and tunesmith has a signature “sound”. They all have a “formula” or method of crafting a song. A Sammy Cahn song is easily identifiable from a Marvin Hamlisch tune, Willie Nelson from Kris Kristofferson. Because their songs have a similarity doesn’t lessen their value. They’re all working with the same 8 notes and 26 letters!

  • @quietstrm11
    @quietstrm11 3 года назад +3

    I hear a little bit of Jonathan Richman here. And yes, he's a songwriter, in the old, classic Tin Pan Alley or Brill Street sense. A lot of the songs you love have been written by people who are no more talented as performers than, or who are even less talented as performers than, this guy.

  • @mintmono7675
    @mintmono7675 5 лет назад +1

    great talk, simple but important message, somehow whooshed over many peoples heads judging from what the comment section is raving about.

  • @hannamaulseed2010
    @hannamaulseed2010 8 лет назад +2

    awesome

  • @lettershewrote
    @lettershewrote 5 лет назад +16

    He got paid and still getting paid so im pretty sure he doesn't care what negative snakes have to say

  • @nyshiagreen2048
    @nyshiagreen2048 3 года назад

    Your amazing i enjoy your spirit

  • @SunGreeva
    @SunGreeva 5 лет назад +2

    Dont get you guys here . The guy is a Songwriter which means he writes songs. The lyrics and the angles that he shows so easy are glimpses of what hardships he‘s been through . Means he sticks to it and thats what count in music. P.s.very nice songs and insight.thank you

  • @Dheeraj_kn
    @Dheeraj_kn 4 года назад +1

    i like that last point he shares🕵️🥀and also its a great deal come on....follow ur passion✨🥀🔥

  • @Tinadlyrics
    @Tinadlyrics 8 лет назад +1

    Yes I have a few questions on writing

  • @MrRentgould
    @MrRentgould 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks.

  • @spiderpig541
    @spiderpig541 7 лет назад +1

    This guys interesting take on a love song.... about it being hard to write a love song that isn't generic and has something new to say... is the exact premise of a John Entwistle song "Its Hard to Write a Love Song" much better than what he's got.

  • @MissUnderstoodOfficial
    @MissUnderstoodOfficial 7 лет назад +4

    I really liked the song, I would legit add some of these to my playlist!

  • @nicholaswoolfenden5254
    @nicholaswoolfenden5254 4 года назад +1

    Excellent.
    Really tongue in cheek but very sound advice. What is music these days? A commodity which is really awful.
    Hail to all songwriters. You guys are the best.

  • @tru33st0ry
    @tru33st0ry 6 лет назад +54

    If this is where 25 years of Songwriting gets you, I'm gonna jump

    • @NahGramma
      @NahGramma 5 лет назад +2

      AldiWiesel its where lack of depth gets you in a brainwashed society

    • @timophat
      @timophat 5 лет назад +1

      LOL

    • @fernandoblengio
      @fernandoblengio 5 лет назад +1

      He is a professional songwriter, not a singer or performer.

    • @enginestarter664
      @enginestarter664 5 лет назад +5

      @@fernandoblengio It's his songwriting that sucks. Nobody cares about the performance.

  • @arjrpzwork9416
    @arjrpzwork9416 6 лет назад +1

    dude all of these comments are so mean! this guy would be a PERFECT stand up comedian.. not a cool, good musician from what i have seen. he likes music.. he has heady lyrics.. yeah.. stand up comedian using music.. 100% fit for this guy.

  • @pocketcharts12
    @pocketcharts12 6 лет назад +5

    I write songs too
    Only 50---

  • @sinandcyanide7505
    @sinandcyanide7505 6 лет назад +11

    okay, but...the lyrics he wrote say EXACTLY what he said would be too much emotion. Like almost freaking verbatim. How did this guy get a Ted spot? Can I have one? I can do the same thing.

  • @AnthonyCarrier
    @AnthonyCarrier 2 года назад

    Singing the nice guy needy blues...!

  • @richardkratochvil
    @richardkratochvil 4 года назад +1

    I started writing songs only because something was telling me to and they just keep coming one after another where they come from I can only guess but it’s like it chose me not me had chosen it

  • @pocketcharts12
    @pocketcharts12 6 лет назад +1

    Good songs for movies. Scores !

  • @Khepramancer
    @Khepramancer 7 лет назад +17

    This dude's musical dream is to open for Randy Newman.

  • @FTarquin
    @FTarquin 6 лет назад +5

    What a power dork!

    • @MacGregor88
      @MacGregor88 6 лет назад

      'power dork' lol

    • @eltouristoduo
      @eltouristoduo 6 лет назад +1

      I think u get best/most appropriate comment award so far..

  • @seanadams7407
    @seanadams7407 8 лет назад +41

    Not surprising he's worked with Kesha....

    • @furryz666
      @furryz666 7 лет назад

      Sean Adams I thought she was still tied up with Dr Luke

    • @123rockfan
      @123rockfan 6 лет назад

      Sean Adams her latest album was genuinely good

  • @roberthereford8880
    @roberthereford8880 7 лет назад +7

    "Give here to me"

  • @gourdlord2112
    @gourdlord2112 4 года назад +12

    When the guy who brings his acoustic to a house party gets a ted talk

    • @murray2225
      @murray2225 4 года назад

      "I've cooked 1000 eggs in my life". Chef Murray

  • @paulmurphy9973
    @paulmurphy9973 7 лет назад +11

    Some good advice,those snippets sadly
    demonstrate mediocrity of the craft and that's being kind.

    • @fernandoblengio
      @fernandoblengio 5 лет назад

      Well, he makes money out of it, he is a songwriter... You'd have to be a musician to understand.

    • @babychick398
      @babychick398 5 лет назад

      Hes writing commercially, for the public at 8am on the radio when they are going to work and listening mindlessly. Its easy to listen ti and understand qithout effort. He's not writing for the artists in the world. Its harder to write simply more than you might realize

  • @micahsouth
    @micahsouth 8 лет назад +2

    Awesome ! Would like your help.

    • @CliffGoldmacherMusic
      @CliffGoldmacherMusic 8 лет назад +1

      +Michael South Drop me a line at cliff@cliffgoldmacher.com.

    • @micahsouth
      @micahsouth 8 лет назад

      +Cliff Goldmacher hello, I know your probably busy, my you tube is Michael south Times of life if you could give me your feed back would be awesome, any help would be appreciated . Thanks you !

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords 6 лет назад +2

    i saw this guy in .sucess of songwriting channel. i. live interview👹😲

  • @wishmeluck4933
    @wishmeluck4933 6 лет назад +50

    He should stick to driving fast cars in fast and furious.

  • @camilonmendezmusic
    @camilonmendezmusic 5 лет назад +1

    Last song was actually pretty good!

  • @brokenrecord2428
    @brokenrecord2428 5 лет назад +3

    I think people are confusing performing with songwriting. He's not that spectacular vocally or on the guitar but the "songs" are pretty solid

  • @burtcocain1986
    @burtcocain1986 4 года назад +4

    In my official capacity as some guy on the internet I'm going to say yeah, this is good advice, but it won't help you if you're like me. You sit at a computer with a guitar thinking "I need a familiar topic and a fresh angle.. hmmmm... *strums a G & a D chord for 10 minutes and gives up*"
    If you're like me, go start by searching for "Why is writing so hard?" and watch Damien Walter's video.
    So what he's saying is, you need to do creative writing exercises. Fortunately I have Pat Pattison's Songwriting without Boundaries. Buy that book. Google him. Watch his videos. Excellent resource.
    I'm developing a method of subtle theft and mining. Take notes. If a song has a nice little metaphor or a turn of phrase, write it down. Re-write it in your own words. Steal the rhythm for your notes. Write song fragments - don't try to write full songs - you're just doing the research. Then, when you sit down with the guitar and you think "what should I write?" Open the notebook or the google doc with all your fragments. You'll forget where they came from and they'll be brand-new. Get creative. Re-write stuff, sing it out. Remix. Recycle. Play. You'll find yourself naturally doing what this guy says.
    Also, songs don't need to mean anything until they're written, or the thing you started with. The meaning of the song can change mid-sentence. If you do it right, it'll feel like you didn't write the song yourself.
    Write bad things intentionally. Write good things by accident. Time yourself writing. 5 minutes of free association about a lampost or a flower pot. Stop as soon as the timer goes off.

    • @leonfmr
      @leonfmr 4 года назад

      Good ideas! How's your writing going man?

  • @glennpagemusic
    @glennpagemusic 7 лет назад

    Some people at 6:40 not finding that joke particularly funny...

  • @sargossgolek699
    @sargossgolek699 7 лет назад +1

    this is what u learned in 25 years?
    dude, u r a genius!!!

  • @Rupert-eg6lk
    @Rupert-eg6lk 7 лет назад

    So they managed to rip off Kesha? Or did Kesha rip off them? I'm too lazy to find out, so used to it now 😭

  • @mistycelt1100
    @mistycelt1100 6 лет назад +1

    YEAH GREAT! XXXMISTYCELT SINGER SONGWRITER UK:)

  • @erikalee7967
    @erikalee7967 Год назад

    You had an opportunity to teach, speak, pass on experience.... and ya sang.... we call this a missed opportunity or a complete waste of time. Both apply.

  • @privcraft_
    @privcraft_ 5 лет назад +8

    His advice is good but his lyrics aren't.

  • @pjtello4640
    @pjtello4640 6 лет назад +4

    I was expecting better tbh...

  • @karyandherlyrics7859
    @karyandherlyrics7859 8 лет назад +11

    awesome video I am inspired ☺💕

  • @vincass9392
    @vincass9392 7 лет назад +3

    sorry what was you billboard charting single - surely not one of the examples played here. might lend this some street cred to know what you've actually achieved. examples here are a little soft

  • @andrewprice1764
    @andrewprice1764 5 лет назад +1

    Wow this isn't Neil Young? This isn't Neil Young at all? I demand my money back.. That's it! I'm writing a letter!

  • @TheRoneZone
    @TheRoneZone 4 года назад

    Started my own songwriting tutorial series on my channel. Best advice I could give to anyone whether it's songwriting, music production, composition, and even improvisation: Analyze/Transcribe/Recreate your favorite pieces of music. It's as simple as that.

  • @novelty4
    @novelty4 6 лет назад +1

    Those who can... DO and those who can't... TEACH.

    • @brownin329
      @brownin329 6 лет назад

      Okay, as a teacher by trade, I'm going to have to take offense to this. You wouldn't be able to do whatever it is you do if you hadn't learned from a teacher first. Teachers are experts in their field. They may not all be great teachers, but they know what they're doing. So, miss me with the teacher's insult. Besides, as terrible as this guy sounds, he is actually writing songs, which is the whole point. Tell me. What have you done lately?

  • @kintubeats
    @kintubeats Год назад

    Lyrics are not that important, melody is key just listen to k pop.. or french pop music most people dont know wth they are saying but still bang foreign speaking songs thnks 2 rhythm, harmonic structure and melody,

  • @HABLA_GUIRRRI
    @HABLA_GUIRRRI 7 лет назад

    z zz z

  • @nickd4306
    @nickd4306 6 лет назад +1

    cliff.... about your moves.....
    they're weak.

  • @oliverread2532
    @oliverread2532 6 лет назад

    His songwriting is very generic, he’s very lucky he has a platform to perform. I know a lot of songwriters better at both singing and writing who would kill for that stage. It’s a shame how privilege even affects us in the creative industry. It’s not about what you sing or play it’s how much $$$$’s you got for lessons and co writers

  • @boeandthelizards
    @boeandthelizards 6 лет назад +17

    So bad musically and lyrically even worse!

  • @mendozaestefan
    @mendozaestefan 5 лет назад

    ted talks should just stop trying to explain music

  • @peterwood-jenkins3634
    @peterwood-jenkins3634 5 лет назад

    Nonsense what has this man ever written that people would BUY ?? trouble with using a Joke as the Theme Once its been heard thats it, Too much Dissonance in his melodies, Nothing hits one between the eyes its just drivel you can hear from any cafe amateur, who believes he is a musical genius ; Billboard Jazz Charts ???? say no more

  • @austinhernandez2716
    @austinhernandez2716 7 лет назад +7

    I'm getting a degree in music composition. These people don't know nothing about writing music.

    • @austinhernandez2716
      @austinhernandez2716 7 лет назад +1

      John Cavanaugh I didn't say a degree is required to be successful. Some of the most successful artists ever had no formal education. For example, Miles Davis, who's album "Kind of Blue" is the best selling jazz album in history, was accepted to the Juilliard School of Music but he dropped out because he didn't think he needed it.
      But seriously, many people here don't know anything. They think that all you have to know is the sales basic scales and chords.

    • @fernandoblengio
      @fernandoblengio 5 лет назад

      And you know nothing about English grammar.

  • @wolfgang4468
    @wolfgang4468 5 лет назад

    The music couldn't be more old-fashioned, boring and unsurprising. Why care for the lyrics then? People who can't write interesting, fresh music should write poems.

  • @FranLegon
    @FranLegon 7 лет назад +16

    25 years composing and you compose like that? sorry dude but this sucks. I mean it's very mediocre. Maybe try getting a band and singing about other fellings? like anger, agony, oppression, euforia, depression...

    • @FranLegon
      @FranLegon 7 лет назад +4

      did you really watch the video? and still you say this guy is creative? I guess the word-choosing is good but the overall lyrics are so plain, boring and predictable that the overall lyrics are still mediocre

    • @MacGregor88
      @MacGregor88 6 лет назад +2

      His 'songs' sound like amateur nursery rhymes. Seriously, this guy is nowhere near a talented songwriter.

  • @haleejohnstonsoftballcross9524
    @haleejohnstonsoftballcross9524 7 лет назад +3

    boring

  • @djdiclona2301
    @djdiclona2301 5 лет назад +1

    For 25 years he's not that good

    • @camrose306
      @camrose306 4 года назад

      Pretty sure he's had a top 10 song sooo I dont think he cares about your opinion

  • @MacGregor88
    @MacGregor88 6 лет назад +4

    This guy is actually delusional.

  • @NagoyaHouseHead
    @NagoyaHouseHead 3 года назад

    The first three songs were basically comedy songs. Quite embarrassing really. I'll stick with my Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, and Paul Simon. Nothing to learn from here.

  • @CheeroDee
    @CheeroDee 7 лет назад +1

    Hey dude, practice what ou preach, get a band to play the song, pay the guys to make you sound better.

  • @CheeroDee
    @CheeroDee 7 лет назад +6

    Terrible voice. Sure doesn't help...

    • @phychomaniac26
      @phychomaniac26 6 лет назад +1

      Cheero Well he actually sings in tune the entire time. It's just incredibly mediocre.

    • @brownin329
      @brownin329 6 лет назад +1

      It helped Mick Jagger. Ozzy Osbourne. David Bowie. etc.

  • @benmarriott2487
    @benmarriott2487 7 лет назад +1

    His lyrics are just misogynistic "give her to me", yeah he thinks it's a punchline but really it's just removing all agency from the woman. "I'm the nicest guy you ever knew" classic whining of a man who thinks he's entitled to something just because he's Mr nice guy.