Thanks for bringing this Dkayed! Love your comment and insights, top quality as always and really interesting!!! I usually get bored watching pro yugioh cause I dont manage to follow everything and get a bit lost and I really appreciate you taking the time to share the replay and explain lots of stuff, really grateful!
Not correct, always ash Branddd fusion. If u have a veiler like card u hit aluber. It’s literally shaddoll. If u can play against shaddoll u know how to hit despia
Yo this is dope I love you covering these types of things opens up my brain to more plays even though I don't play either of these decks it's nice to be aware of what's going on
It was painfully obvious that Mystic Mine was going to start causing issues the moment Konami banned Imperial Order. Once again a massive failure on Konami's part to not account for the toxicity of Mine as well (IO and Mine should've been banned together). I'm playing against pure Mine so much more, and having an already very toolbox deck in Skystrikers abusing it goes too far.
@@ConductorElcrest Combo players say the same about stopping/baiting hand traps tho. A floodgate is just a big blanket instead of a parasol, both do the same thing. So how about if Mystic Mine gets banned, we also ban Ash?
@@ValunarTonix Here's the thing, Ash and other hand traps don't just counter spells, they also counter mosnters and traps. What's more it's easy to play around hand traps, a deck EVEN MYSTIC MINE are built with the ideas of "Play around the ash". Hence why there are multiple choke points and ways to counter ash. Mines problem is there is only ONE way to counter it. Backrow removal. I say this as a control player for 5 formats straight, fuck mine. The card is VERY toxic to even controls and doesn't allow us to play the game either. Yes I can draw my backrow removal, but that'll just be negated by judments or completely made invalid by cards that prevent destruction as a whole. It's a toxic card and if you want it legal you're hurting control decks that just want to have fun as well. You can play around every hand trap naturally expect maxx c, but you can't play around mysic mine naturally. Control and Combo alike hate the card.
imperial order isn't why strikers isn't good in master duel, imperial order is not really searchable outside of the mathmech xyz, and its basicly a sacky luck card that wins you one game in a while, the reason why striker strikers suck in master duel is because of the best of 1 format, skystriker is whats known as a swiss army knife control deck, its strength is that its engine is splashable and you can side deck almost anything, to counter almost anything, however in best of 1, you basicly gimp the deck, and are forced to tech against the most popular decks, but if you meet a deck that doesn't get countered by it then its gg.
There's also the fact that Kagari is limited, making it more difficult to pick up dumped cards, and game mechanics make the "Shizuku Shuffle"(a popular end phase interaction between Multirole and Shizuku) more annoying to set up since game mechanics make the two activate in a specific order based on when they were brought out. Deck is still good enough to deal with Swordsoul and Despia(which isn't at full power in MD yet) but gets hosed by random rogue and meme decks because you can't side for those in Bo1s.
I wish they can group the rank duels by seasons. Say if I want to play "read-eyes dark dragon", and it was not banned in Season X. It can allow me to duel with people who uses cards available in Season X, excluding the card after that.
I think if we can prevent sky striker to become so good in using mystic mine, mystic mine is actually a good card so the fight not just ended in one or two turn. I mean you can always link your monsters into one to destroy the mystic mine. it is a good card to restrict one sided play To do that, ban ignition, semi-limit mystic mine, and limit sky striker's field
TCG players: NO VFD! Screw that card! It prevents me from activating monster effects AND attacking? BAN THAT SHIT! Also TCG players: Mystic Mine? Fair. I can't activate monster effects. Fair. Can't attack too? Oh, you gotta be able to play 3 of that bad bois in main deck, it's only fair. I can cure anaemia with this much irony in the air.
@@ConductorElcrest quick search of the banlist: OCG release date: Jan 2019, semi-limited: Jul 2019, limited: Oct 2019, banned: Oct 2021. TCG release date: May 2019 and kicking ever since. Is it because the community decided to keep the game fair and didn't abuse it? Was VFD at a point in time used in every deck?
@@maxkuozc while VFD is quicker and easier to bring out with Virtual World, almost all decks can play it for example, Adamancipator and monsters effects are easier to deal with than spells/traps, i guess that's the reason why Konami won't ban that card
@@maxkuozc Also what does the banlist have to do with anything? I was just talking about how everyone in the TCG WANTS the card banned but the TCG higher ups refuse to ban it? Player base vs higher ups dude, no one likes the card.
Drytron = ritual, swordsoul = synchro, sky stiker = link, and despia = fusion. I'm thinking Dimensional Barrier is perfectly suited to the current meta, for better or worse. Too bad in Master Duel zoo-tri has xyz and link keeping them relatively safe and Eldlich doesn't need its extra deck much.
Get your Duster and Lightning storms ready. There’s no shame in maining them for coverage purposes cause that “engine” can literally be ran in any deck that has great starters or looking to replace DPE/Brave slots
"Why is the crowd cheering for Mystic Mine?" I came back to the game after a decade to play master duel, took one look at Mystic Mine on the banlist, and instantly understood why it was there. I can't understand why anyone would cheer for it. A victory with Mystic seems to have that "I did what I had to do to win, but at what cost" kind of vibe to it.
Well, it is due to the low consistency of his deck that make this unlikely happen in a BO3 match. Also, if you stayed in this game old enough, you would have heard of many FTK strategies and many kind of more annoying locks (Discard meta or Djinn lock).
We like to say "he won because of mine" ... but he won because he is skillful and prepared. We are always acting like he is the only one playing toxic cards and we fail to acknowledge the feat.
Yeah, tbh it's konami fault for not banning toxic cards and not the player since it's tournament, of course the player want to use the best combo to win. Hope this makes konami realized the cards are toxic
Honestly im suprised mine has dodge the banlist this long as it is if i remember right it got banned pretty quickly in the ocg because its a very unhealthy card for the game that if you arnt running an out or dont draw it quick enough singlehandedly wins games by stopping your opponent being able to play
never truly understood the hate for mystic mine objectively (of course i can understand in the moment when it gets played against you in a duel) when a lot of decks are able to end their first turn with like multiple multiple negates. It just allows the other deck to play
mystic mine stops effects being activated anywhere. hand, graveyard, banished, field, deck. along with being able to be searched out with terraforming or metaverse there's also other cards you can use that make the card indestructible along with using a card called prohibition to ban the use of a card called cosmic cyclone which is probably the best out to the card since if your opponent does have the protection out they cannot stop it from being banished, it's not about getting a chance to play it can completely remove any counterplay regardless of your hand if they set it up, there's a lot of monster removal and other cards to stop their negates but not many to stop a mystic mine protected deck
@@0doge632 I wasn't really trying to say that it being able to be negated makes it fair more so that what makes that card any less fair than a board ending with multiple negates on top of each other was more so my thinking. Also was genuine curiosity, I'm fairly new in returning to the game so i have no bias in thinking one way or the other
People that only play MD don’t even know how diverse the meta actually is with the new ban-list, he was smarter than us to meta call mystic mine combined with Sky Striker engine which is one of the best decks to combo with
Dimensional barrier= I skip your turn Mystic Mine= I win card Sky Strikers= Reactive archetype to whatever your playing Pilot= Great call on these techs for the weekend nobody was expecting mine, and d barrier MAIN (let's be real. I mean do floowandereeze play em main idk not really a TCG player), Kudos to him. I could never play this deck as it is not my playstyle. Konami= "It's all fine."
Despia players 16:30 Why do you think he Summoned Quaeritis first this game using Br. Fusion? Isn't it always optimal to go for Lubellion into Mirrorjade and then dump Albion to set Branded in Red and then resummon Mirrorjade next turn using Ad Libitum? Was it just because he was going first and wouldn't be able to double dip by banishing a sky striker monster turn 1 and then again in Round 2? Does he anticipate Quaeritis is likely going to get popped by a card effect on Turn 2 and he'll be able to special summon an Albaz or Aluber using Q's effect?
Also Question #2 16:40 How does Aluber still resolve and let him search for a Branded spell card? I know he used Albaz in hand and Aluber on field for the summon but wouldn't the Imperm still negate the Aluber? Does Aluber's effect remain if its fused using a chain before it gets hit by the Imperm? Or does it have to something to do with Branded Lost not allowing Imperm to do its thing? (If that was the case I doubt Poe would have activated Imperm though)
Can the mystic mine just be destroy by a card effect / have it's effect negated by another card effect? Also why not just play one less card to have the effect of mystic mine negated?
If dont have targeted spell negation or destruction then u automatically lose. They can literally just pass until you deck-out if they are playing 1 more card than you. Thats how broken it is,
Majority of decks only have spell/trap removal through monster effects. So if mystic mine is active, literally the entire deck cannot remove/negate the card. What makes Mystic Mine tricky is that it can be played during the opponent’s turn with Metaverse or Demise of the Land, if you go first. If you go second, your opponent already has monsters on field, then you just have to force any spell/trap negates on-field then you can play it. There are very few ways to reduce the monsters on your side of the field that aren’t monster effects.
No one plays back row removal with other back row cards? Is everything in current Yu-Gi-Oh just monster effects to destroy / banish everything? Must be different for control duelist then.
@@Evixyn indeed. Those cards can be considered “bricks”, aka useless in the current gamestate, if you draw into them when going against strategies that rarely use backrow. Which is most of them. Because monster effects have grown so strong that monsters can remove backrow perfectly fine. And these effects are on extra deck monsters too. Like Barronne de Fleur and Knightmare Phoenix. So players will use the side deck for those backrow removal spell/traps instead. Because the game is so fast, a control deck has to use floodgates to slow down the competition. 90% of which are continuous traps like There Can Be Only One and Skill Drain.
lol regarding about 24:25. i actually do this in master duel. i want them to use the “drop atk to 0” during ONLY main phase, and i continue my combo like normal. its risky but it has worked many times so far
There really shouldn't be an archetype consisted of retrained versions of banned/limited cards, which makes them searchable, let alone one that could play UNDER Mystic Mine. Not to mention a better Pot of Greed that isn't a once per turn. Edit: Bring Imperial Order back to 1. I don't care if I can't use Spells, so long as this garbage archetype stays dead.
@C.O.V.I.D. Certificate of Vaccination ID >stop caring about yourself and think about other players If by "other players" you mean Sky Striker "players", no, I won't. Sky Strikers shouldn't have been an archetype in the first place. If they could have a non-OPT arguably better searchable Pot of Greed, why ban Pot of Greed at this point? Them existing doesn't make any sense.
@C.O.V.I.D. Certificate of Vaccination ID "if they aren't an issue for me then they shouldn't be an issue for u" You're not a gold standard, get off of your high horse.
I'm very excited for Floowandereeze because itll be a great anti meta and I'd just love to be able to give the big negate boards the middle finger. Plus birds are great and penguins are the best
Hate to break it to you you wouldn't be giving the big negate boards anything. You still lose if the boards get established. Flunder just stops them going 1st. It's just a slightly better version of stun.
@@jasonbassil9480 ah dang, my friends have been telling me about it and it seems really fun to me especially vs that stuff but guess it still goes normally unless I'm 1st huh, dang eh either way I'm down for a fun bird deck with a penguin in it
You know if he can use Mistic mine... you can too . I say that... But what's you have to understand it's that Sky striker is one of the rarest deck who can play this card at this more powerfull and usefull. One can't existe without the other. So SKY STRIKER WON not only a magic card alone. ( plus, do not forget how impactfull was D barrer and Trap Trick. Also the activation of Mystic mine was protected by multirole.) ((16:00 And Mystic Mine block effect and attack for the one who CONTROL ON THE FIELD the most monsters. not on the whole deck, or Poe would play a 60 cards deck beside of a Sky Striker X'D))
The reason he brought up deck count is because if the opponent has zero ways to deal with mystic mine and they have less cards in deck, you can keep passing turn and they will deck out.
@@xSnarfsx even without card to destroy it you have a second way. Just play with the same number of monster has your oppenent and at the end of the turn Mistyc will blow up. But the actual meta is summoning a shitload of monster to get has many negate effect has possible to stoo you're oppenent playing his game. Mystic mine is just a mimic of that but in one card. So yeah it's TOO MUCH POWERFULL for one card I agree. But in the current meta, it can bring a balance at less cost
I wouldn't really say Sky Strikers won instead of Mine, because even in other strategies there's just one card winning games on it's own (Skill Drain). And this seems to be the case.
Going by Komoney logic: Kaiser Colosseum: I stop you from summoning more than my controller! Mystic Mine: I didn’t make you limit how many monsters you can summon, you chose to do that yourself
Judges had issues with people constantly getting confused by how Kaiser Colosseum works because of weird interactions involving things summoned to the other players' side. Nothing about it being unfair really got it banned.
definetly. And remember that almost everyone in top cut was playing mine in the main deck so it's not like he was the only one stealing games with it. He was just prepared more than others cause striker have a main deck out to mine
Agree that the D-Barrier Trap Trick is simply a really good meta call, but Mystic Mine is and will always be one of the most toxic cards in yugioh history
@@superbr0ws015 hm yeah I'll agree on that mystic mine is pretty bad, but I think it can be fixed by semi-limit or limit, either land or mystic, but I also need to point out that not all deck could use this card as effectively as striker (maybe eldlich but thats kinda stretching), and sadly the weird way komoney work is by hitting striker instead of that forsaken card
@@yuugael4010 Haha defo agree next banlist if Striker keep this up Konami will re-ban Engage and maybe Kagari limit lol rather than hitting Mine. Sad thing is literally any deck that can utilise field spells can and have also used Mine effectively (Dino, Prank Kids, Floowandereeze, ABC/Therion spring to mind from current/past formats) plus you're average blind second deck could also use 1-2 in the main.. It needs banning, because it would end up a sacky 1 of otherwise. On top of that pure Mine requires extreme amounts of backrow removal to combat with luck if you're able to dodge the bribes, cursed seals, solemns e.t.c. to the point your side deck would be relatively ineffective against the remainder of the format. Whereas pure Mine can simply just side in the heavy hitting generic side deck cards with maybe additional mass board wipe deterrence like Waking The Dragon.
Y’all you can’t lose rank if you lose consecutive battles at start of season? I got one deck so wanna be lower when the festivals come around this terrible
The sad truth is that YuGiOh is a mess of a game and very toxic at competitive level, all due to Konami's constant power creep. It is simply unhealthy and clear for anyone to see, but Konami won't take any steps to solve it, instead they will just keep banning symptom cards rather than actual problem cards, so they can milk every penny they can regardless of how unhealthy the game becomes. Don't get me wrong, a company focusing on profit is totally reasonable, but Konami has pushed it to the limit.
Yea, Mystic Mine is the new Maxx C in the TCG. imo if u not playing MM u not trying to win. It’s a better CBTG, DRNM, And droplet in 1. No reason now to even play Droplet or DRNM when Mystic fucking Mine is at 3.
That's not how Konami work lol. They work like this, "Oh look Striker is doing well again let's re-ban Engage and put Kagari to 1" Even so, his meta calls in maining triple D-Barrier and Trap Trick are what ultimately clutched the win for him rather than Mine. Mine should be banned though, it should never have been made in the first place.
@@coco_milktv mystic mine that can literally be stopped with any backrow hate = bad, but setting up a board with more negates than the oponent hand = skillfull
D-barrier is a popular trap card in the TCG for going in blind second. Another notable mention that can also be searched off trap trick is different dimension grounds
Yo también llevo mina a 3 en mi deck Sky, ese "Demise of the land", no sabía de su existencia, ahora se va a llevar, ya que es de juego rápido, y activar mina en el turno del oponente es una estrategia poderosa, paras en seco a tu rival.
@@darealclownpeice nah, it's a joke. in master duel we use "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazy_evaluation" that why you cant retain main phase and link to "access code talker"
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Thanks for bringing this Dkayed! Love your comment and insights, top quality as always and really interesting!!!
I usually get bored watching pro yugioh cause I dont manage to follow everything and get a bit lost and I really appreciate you taking the time to share the replay and explain lots of stuff, really grateful!
Imo negating the Aluber instead of waiting for Albion is correct because you instantly get punished hard if Aluber searches Branded Lost.
Depends on the handtrap veiler and imperm yes it's correct to hit aluber with ash u need to always save it for the branded fusion
Not correct, always ash Branddd fusion. If u have a veiler like card u hit aluber. It’s literally shaddoll. If u can play against shaddoll u know how to hit despia
@@pwny1000 that's what I said lmao
Yo this is dope I love you covering these types of things opens up my brain to more plays even though I don't play either of these decks it's nice to be aware of what's going on
Hopefully you do more of these in the future dkayed!
It was painfully obvious that Mystic Mine was going to start causing issues the moment Konami banned Imperial Order. Once again a massive failure on Konami's part to not account for the toxicity of Mine as well (IO and Mine should've been banned together). I'm playing against pure Mine so much more, and having an already very toolbox deck in Skystrikers abusing it goes too far.
As every combo player would say:
Just draw the out m8 is not that hard
And newly "just draw the out 5head"
If you don't draw the out, surely must be a skill issue Kappa
Only control players say that tho
@@ConductorElcrest Combo players say the same about stopping/baiting hand traps tho. A floodgate is just a big blanket instead of a parasol, both do the same thing. So how about if Mystic Mine gets banned, we also ban Ash?
@@ValunarTonix Here's the thing, Ash and other hand traps don't just counter spells, they also counter mosnters and traps. What's more it's easy to play around hand traps, a deck EVEN MYSTIC MINE are built with the ideas of "Play around the ash". Hence why there are multiple choke points and ways to counter ash. Mines problem is there is only ONE way to counter it. Backrow removal. I say this as a control player for 5 formats straight, fuck mine. The card is VERY toxic to even controls and doesn't allow us to play the game either. Yes I can draw my backrow removal, but that'll just be negated by judments or completely made invalid by cards that prevent destruction as a whole.
It's a toxic card and if you want it legal you're hurting control decks that just want to have fun as well. You can play around every hand trap naturally expect maxx c, but you can't play around mysic mine naturally. Control and Combo alike hate the card.
Also can't play imperial order in tcg. Making strikers even stronger now.
imperial order isn't why strikers isn't good in master duel,
imperial order is not really searchable outside of the mathmech xyz, and its basicly a sacky luck card that wins you one game in a while,
the reason why striker strikers suck in master duel is because of the best of 1 format,
skystriker is whats known as a swiss army knife control deck,
its strength is that its engine is splashable and you can side deck almost anything, to counter almost anything,
however in best of 1, you basicly gimp the deck, and are forced to tech against the most popular decks, but if you meet a deck that doesn't get countered by it then its gg.
There's also the fact that Kagari is limited, making it more difficult to pick up dumped cards, and game mechanics make the "Shizuku Shuffle"(a popular end phase interaction between Multirole and Shizuku) more annoying to set up since game mechanics make the two activate in a specific order based on when they were brought out.
Deck is still good enough to deal with Swordsoul and Despia(which isn't at full power in MD yet) but gets hosed by random rogue and meme decks because you can't side for those in Bo1s.
@@NeostormXLMAX well true maybe not all deck doin this, but you can add imperial order from gy, dump it with beatrice, add it with auroradon
sky striker is better in tcg format because kagari is at 3
@@MarioLopez-xs3vc how do you do Shizuku Shuffle? Which one should activate first? Multirole or summon Shizuku?
U can see how Dkayed is talented at casting even with the papier version ygo making it interesseting 👏
I wish they can group the rank duels by seasons. Say if I want to play "read-eyes dark dragon", and it was not banned in Season X. It can allow me to duel with people who uses cards available in Season X, excluding the card after that.
Mistic mine players are the most skillful and smart player that have ever exist
Almost as smart as the almighty Eldlich players
Spelling facts though
Agreed.
cry about it
5Head Players Normal Summon Aleister though
@@user-ik2zr1cx1u that's true indeed
Epic commentary and play by play, please more of these!
Love Dkay clean explanation as I was confused while watching the match.
I think if we can prevent sky striker to become so good in using mystic mine, mystic mine is actually a good card so the fight not just ended in one or two turn.
I mean you can always link your monsters into one to destroy the mystic mine. it is a good card to restrict one sided play
To do that, ban ignition, semi-limit mystic mine, and limit sky striker's field
Can’t wait for Mirror Jade ice dragon to come to master duel. It is going to make my Dragonmaid deck better
Well if branded fusion comes to master duel as well u will be much more happy, but the whole meta tier list will change😅
I also want to use Mirrorjade, he looks so fucking cool
I've been enjoying playing despia so branded fusion would a lovely welcome
As a dragonmaids player. I'm also excited for Mirror jade as well.
I LOVE MASTER DUEL AND THE TCG. PLS TALK ABOUT BIG STUFF IN TCG FROM TIME TO TIME JUST LIKE THIS VIDEO! KEEP IT UP!
TCG players: NO VFD! Screw that card! It prevents me from activating monster effects AND attacking? BAN THAT SHIT!
Also TCG players: Mystic Mine? Fair. I can't activate monster effects. Fair. Can't attack too? Oh, you gotta be able to play 3 of that bad bois in main deck, it's only fair.
I can cure anaemia with this much irony in the air.
No one thinks mine is fair, everyone wants it banned in the TCG lol
@@ConductorElcrest quick search of the banlist: OCG release date: Jan 2019, semi-limited: Jul 2019, limited: Oct 2019, banned: Oct 2021. TCG release date: May 2019 and kicking ever since. Is it because the community decided to keep the game fair and didn't abuse it? Was VFD at a point in time used in every deck?
@@maxkuozc while VFD is quicker and easier to bring out with Virtual World, almost all decks can play it for example, Adamancipator and monsters effects are easier to deal with than spells/traps, i guess that's the reason why Konami won't ban that card
@@maxkuozc Also what does the banlist have to do with anything? I was just talking about how everyone in the TCG WANTS the card banned but the TCG higher ups refuse to ban it?
Player base vs higher ups dude, no one likes the card.
@@ConductorElcrest except Mystic mine player. Imagine Amano-Iwato or Inspector Boarder and Mystic Mine are on filed
Be awesome to see dkayed at a ycs!
Drytron = ritual, swordsoul = synchro, sky stiker = link, and despia = fusion. I'm thinking Dimensional Barrier is perfectly suited to the current meta, for better or worse. Too bad in Master Duel zoo-tri has xyz and link keeping them relatively safe and Eldlich doesn't need its extra deck much.
RIP Xyz.
Link isn't in d barrier. That's why sky striker can use it.
Get your Duster and Lightning storms ready. There’s no shame in maining them for coverage purposes cause that “engine” can literally be ran in any deck that has great starters or looking to replace DPE/Brave slots
Please do more of these Tcg coverage and explanation... love it mate, keep it up 🙏🙏🙏
"Why is the crowd cheering for Mystic Mine?"
I came back to the game after a decade to play master duel, took one look at Mystic Mine on the banlist, and instantly understood why it was there. I can't understand why anyone would cheer for it. A victory with Mystic seems to have that "I did what I had to do to win, but at what cost" kind of vibe to it.
they were being ironic
Mystic mines for pansies thats why
Well, it is due to the low consistency of his deck that make this unlikely happen in a BO3 match. Also, if you stayed in this game old enough, you would have heard of many FTK strategies and many kind of more annoying locks (Discard meta or Djinn lock).
@@alicepbg2042 That and they're hoping if mystic mine sacks a win in their finals, they'll address it on the banlist
@@alicepbg2042 No they weren't, the card is great and it beats cancer cards like DPE, Baronne, Swordsoul.
Im OCG player
why has mystic mine not banned yet when Calamities or Kaiser Colosseum is banned
Very insightful! Keep doing these
I've never seen TCG scean so it was so entertaining. thank you for upload
We like to say "he won because of mine" ... but he won because he is skillful and prepared. We are always acting like he is the only one playing toxic cards and we fail to acknowledge the feat.
100% you should cover more paper game. i usually don't watch them because i have no idea whats going on but your commentary is spot on
Why do people think that his deck is controversial? Honestly, he’s pretty smart for using these specific set of cards to counter the meta pretty hard
because its a yugioh tournament not a solitare tournament
@@supersaiyan7315 all of its solitaire
Yeah, tbh it's konami fault for not banning toxic cards and not the player since it's tournament, of course the player want to use the best combo to win. Hope this makes konami realized the cards are toxic
Honestly im suprised mine has dodge the banlist this long as it is if i remember right it got banned pretty quickly in the ocg because its a very unhealthy card for the game that if you arnt running an out or dont draw it quick enough singlehandedly wins games by stopping your opponent being able to play
Dkayd is a very good analist, from someone ho work mostly with duel links and master duel thats really good !
never truly understood the hate for mystic mine objectively (of course i can understand in the moment when it gets played against you in a duel) when a lot of decks are able to end their first turn with like multiple multiple negates. It just allows the other deck to play
mystic mine stops effects being activated anywhere. hand, graveyard, banished, field, deck. along with being able to be searched out with terraforming or metaverse there's also other cards you can use that make the card indestructible along with using a card called prohibition to ban the use of a card called cosmic cyclone which is probably the best out to the card since if your opponent does have the protection out they cannot stop it from being banished, it's not about getting a chance to play it can completely remove any counterplay regardless of your hand if they set it up, there's a lot of monster removal and other cards to stop their negates but not many to stop a mystic mine protected deck
Just because a card can be negated doesn’t mean it’s fair
It stops your opponent to play. Similar to why people hate VFD
@@0doge632 I wasn't really trying to say that it being able to be negated makes it fair more so that what makes that card any less fair than a board ending with multiple negates on top of each other was more so my thinking. Also was genuine curiosity, I'm fairly new in returning to the game so i have no bias in thinking one way or the other
1. TCG isn't really a multiple negate meta right now
2. The same combo decks are also running Mine right now
People that only play MD don’t even know how diverse the meta actually is with the new ban-list, he was smarter than us to meta call mystic mine combined with Sky Striker engine which is one of the best decks to combo with
Does that make mystic Mine cool? Eh
@@furkankocaman356 actually no but I won’t qualify it as a “toxic card” or if it is, it’s at the same level as skill drain or imperial order
ah yes single toxic card make meta "diverse and smart"
@@kevinli7473 the field spell searchable in multiple ways. you have to draw into skill drain/IO. They are not the same.
Like the tcg coverage! Would like to see more in the future
Explains how one branded fusion can grab you a bunch of monsters with busted effects. Proceeds to state how a card that prevents this is “toxic”
Dkayed gonna get me back into the paper game the same way he got me into duel links and later master duel hell yeah
amazing content!! love the tcg coverage
Two banlists straight with unrestricted Mystic Mine AND Skill Drain. TCG is peak cancer right now.
My smol brain is melting lol, so thank you for explanation dkayed hope you cover other event grand final too
Learned so much from this video. Thanks Dkayed
Dimensional barrier= I skip your turn
Mystic Mine= I win card
Sky Strikers= Reactive archetype to whatever your playing
Pilot= Great call on these techs for the weekend nobody was expecting mine, and d barrier MAIN (let's be real. I mean do floowandereeze play em main idk not really a TCG player), Kudos to him. I could never play this deck as it is not my playstyle.
Konami= "It's all fine."
Yes thanks for covering this event
Despia players 16:30 Why do you think he Summoned Quaeritis first this game using Br. Fusion? Isn't it always optimal to go for Lubellion into Mirrorjade and then dump Albion to set Branded in Red and then resummon Mirrorjade next turn using Ad Libitum?
Was it just because he was going first and wouldn't be able to double dip by banishing a sky striker monster turn 1 and then again in Round 2?
Does he anticipate Quaeritis is likely going to get popped by a card effect on Turn 2 and he'll be able to special summon an Albaz or Aluber using Q's effect?
Also Question #2 16:40 How does Aluber still resolve and let him search for a Branded spell card? I know he used Albaz in hand and Aluber on field for the summon but wouldn't the Imperm still negate the Aluber?
Does Aluber's effect remain if its fused using a chain before it gets hit by the Imperm? Or does it have to something to do with Branded Lost not allowing Imperm to do its thing? (If that was the case I doubt Poe would have activated Imperm though)
Can the mystic mine just be destroy by a card effect / have it's effect negated by another card effect? Also why not just play one less card to have the effect of mystic mine negated?
If dont have targeted spell negation or destruction then u automatically lose. They can literally just pass until you deck-out if they are playing 1 more card than you. Thats how broken it is,
Majority of decks only have spell/trap removal through monster effects. So if mystic mine is active, literally the entire deck cannot remove/negate the card.
What makes Mystic Mine tricky is that it can be played during the opponent’s turn with Metaverse or Demise of the Land, if you go first. If you go second, your opponent already has monsters on field, then you just have to force any spell/trap negates on-field then you can play it.
There are very few ways to reduce the monsters on your side of the field that aren’t monster effects.
No one plays back row removal with other back row cards? Is everything in current Yu-Gi-Oh just monster effects to destroy / banish everything? Must be different for control duelist then.
@@Evixyn indeed. Those cards can be considered “bricks”, aka useless in the current gamestate, if you draw into them when going against strategies that rarely use backrow. Which is most of them. Because monster effects have grown so strong that monsters can remove backrow perfectly fine. And these effects are on extra deck monsters too. Like Barronne de Fleur and Knightmare Phoenix.
So players will use the side deck for those backrow removal spell/traps instead.
Because the game is so fast, a control deck has to use floodgates to slow down the competition. 90% of which are continuous traps like There Can Be Only One and Skill Drain.
@@doorto6152 and yet skill drain is at 3 in Master Duel..
lol regarding about 24:25. i actually do this in master duel. i want them to use the “drop atk to 0” during ONLY main phase, and i continue my combo like normal. its risky but it has worked many times so far
If I were you I'd be asking konami for some money for how much they're lacking. You do so much for the community it's unreal.
Love that you are watching tcg duels now
People complain about matches ending after one turn and then here we just get pass city.
Why is everyone complaining this was a striker win mystic mine was barely used SMH
cursed seal of the forbidden spell
Mine should always stay at 3, to quote the famous saying "Just draw the out"
yea please more of competetive comentary YGO. It was very educational and if i solo watch competetive ygo I almost can't
comprehend all of their plays
i liked your coverage of the tournament
Everyone hating on it while im here happy cz I also main Sky Striker.
There really shouldn't be an archetype consisted of retrained versions of banned/limited cards, which makes them searchable, let alone one that could play UNDER Mystic Mine. Not to mention a better Pot of Greed that isn't a once per turn.
Edit: Bring Imperial Order back to 1. I don't care if I can't use Spells, so long as this garbage archetype stays dead.
@C.O.V.I.D. Certificate of Vaccination ID >stop caring about yourself and think about other players
If by "other players" you mean Sky Striker "players", no, I won't. Sky Strikers shouldn't have been an archetype in the first place. If they could have a non-OPT arguably better searchable Pot of Greed, why ban Pot of Greed at this point? Them existing doesn't make any sense.
@C.O.V.I.D. Certificate of Vaccination ID "sky strikers aren't an issue for me.."
Key words: "for me"
@C.O.V.I.D. Certificate of Vaccination ID "if they aren't an issue for me then they shouldn't be an issue for u"
You're not a gold standard, get off of your high horse.
I'm very excited for Floowandereeze because itll be a great anti meta and I'd just love to be able to give the big negate boards the middle finger.
Plus birds are great and penguins are the best
Hate to break it to you you wouldn't be giving the big negate boards anything. You still lose if the boards get established. Flunder just stops them going 1st. It's just a slightly better version of stun.
I'm not excited about a knockoff monarch archetype that takes 2 TURNS to make a significant play.
It's hilarious you think playing a fucking meta deck gives the rest the finger. Only a yugioh player could say something like that
@@jasonbassil9480 ah dang, my friends have been telling me about it and it seems really fun to me especially vs that stuff but guess it still goes normally unless I'm 1st huh, dang eh either way I'm down for a fun bird deck with a penguin in it
You know if he can use Mistic mine... you can too . I say that...
But what's you have to understand it's that Sky striker is one of the rarest deck who can play this card at this more powerfull and usefull. One can't existe without the other. So SKY STRIKER WON not only a magic card alone. ( plus, do not forget how impactfull was D barrer and Trap Trick. Also the activation of Mystic mine was protected by multirole.) ((16:00 And Mystic Mine block effect and attack for the one who CONTROL ON THE FIELD the most monsters. not on the whole deck, or Poe would play a 60 cards deck beside of a Sky Striker X'D))
The reason he brought up deck count is because if the opponent has zero ways to deal with mystic mine and they have less cards in deck, you can keep passing turn and they will deck out.
@@xSnarfsx even without card to destroy it you have a second way. Just play with the same number of monster has your oppenent and at the end of the turn Mistyc will blow up.
But the actual meta is summoning a shitload of monster to get has many negate effect has possible to stoo you're oppenent playing his game.
Mystic mine is just a mimic of that but in one card. So yeah it's TOO MUCH POWERFULL for one card I agree. But in the current meta, it can bring a balance at less cost
I wouldn't really say Sky Strikers won instead of Mine, because even in other strategies there's just one card winning games on it's own (Skill Drain). And this seems to be the case.
I love it for how cheap it is to make
Accesscode and blossoms are all you need lol
long time sub, love the content !!!!
this is a good thanks dkayed
I need an explanation as to why Kaiser Colliseum isn't aloud but Mystic Mine is
Going by Komoney logic:
Kaiser Colosseum: I stop you from summoning more than my controller!
Mystic Mine: I didn’t make you limit how many monsters you can summon, you chose to do that yourself
mostly due to ruling
Judges had issues with people constantly getting confused by how Kaiser Colosseum works because of weird interactions involving things summoned to the other players' side. Nothing about it being unfair really got it banned.
That was great, thank you.
32:03 - A wild Bryan and Logan from CrushCards appears!
That Hayate Bait is insane
I do enjoy your TCG coverage
Great content keep it up
The traps did all the work. Mine didn't.
Saying mine won when it was barely used an immediately got popped means the opposite.
regardless of the mine, poe is still a very skilled player imo...its not that easy to win a YCS
definetly. And remember that almost everyone in top cut was playing mine in the main deck so it's not like he was the only one stealing games with it. He was just prepared more than others cause striker have a main deck out to mine
Mine needs to be banned, these cheese tactics aint fun
As a sky striker main, this is kinda unfair but still hope mystic mine is released on md, maybe limited/semi
Really liked this dkayed do more !
“Mystic mine is bad, I can’t get around it with my t1 full combo monster board with omni negates!”
Not my fault you don’t run backrow removal
Love the content... keep it up 👍💯💯
I call him fallen of all bad because when someone summons him it’s all bad
Did they removed bots in master duel ?? Or still
Where r u time to stream
Loving this tcg content
Not every PUNK deck is playing Adventurer. Half of them are playing the Therion archetype.
This is why you side deck a single jinzo xD and then side one spell canceller
I notice you don't have any Dragunity content in your Yugioh Master Duel, I believe there's a 1 card combo with dragunity remus, please make it.
Why dont use mastel duel konami? Like this make me confusing
Poe J hometown Sydney? AUSSIE REPRESENT!!!
His favourite card is Raye, that’s even worse than mystic mine😟
why?
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y'all are so hardstuck on the age of cardboard
@@GoInGcRz 13
@@KPD_KPD Is that the first thing you think of? Says more about you than anyone else
when you are playing anti-meta deck and get called toxic instead smh
Agree that the D-Barrier Trap Trick is simply a really good meta call, but Mystic Mine is and will always be one of the most toxic cards in yugioh history
@@superbr0ws015 hm yeah I'll agree on that mystic mine is pretty bad, but I think it can be fixed by semi-limit or limit, either land or mystic, but I also need to point out that not all deck could use this card as effectively as striker (maybe eldlich but thats kinda stretching), and sadly the weird way komoney work is by hitting striker instead of that forsaken card
@@yuugael4010 Haha defo agree next banlist if Striker keep this up Konami will re-ban Engage and maybe Kagari limit lol rather than hitting Mine. Sad thing is literally any deck that can utilise field spells can and have also used Mine effectively (Dino, Prank Kids, Floowandereeze, ABC/Therion spring to mind from current/past formats) plus you're average blind second deck could also use 1-2 in the main.. It needs banning, because it would end up a sacky 1 of otherwise. On top of that pure Mine requires extreme amounts of backrow removal to combat with luck if you're able to dodge the bribes, cursed seals, solemns e.t.c. to the point your side deck would be relatively ineffective against the remainder of the format. Whereas pure Mine can simply just side in the heavy hitting generic side deck cards with maybe additional mass board wipe deterrence like Waking The Dragon.
His entire game 2 didn't see mine so... I mean.. sure.
Y’all you can’t lose rank if you lose consecutive battles at start of season? I got one deck so wanna be lower when the festivals come around this terrible
34:01 The 4th place deck has only 1 card that is not in master duel (the one with no rarity)
The sad truth is that YuGiOh is a mess of a game and very toxic at competitive level, all due to Konami's constant power creep. It is simply unhealthy and clear for anyone to see, but Konami won't take any steps to solve it, instead they will just keep banning symptom cards rather than actual problem cards, so they can milk every penny they can regardless of how unhealthy the game becomes.
Don't get me wrong, a company focusing on profit is totally reasonable, but Konami has pushed it to the limit.
Everyone hate floodgate, but some evil still play it. 😉
why are they just sit calmly? where's the excitment of the duel? you should shouting at each other for each card you play just like in anime
You can CL2 DPE in response to Mystic Mine
Yea, Mystic Mine is the new Maxx C in the TCG. imo if u not playing MM u not trying to win. It’s a better CBTG, DRNM, And droplet in 1. No reason now to even play Droplet or DRNM when Mystic fucking Mine is at 3.
Mystic Mine 100% will get limited to 1 at least or possibly banned in response to this especially if it continues to show up in degenerate deck lists
That's not how Konami work lol. They work like this, "Oh look Striker is doing well again let's re-ban Engage and put Kagari to 1"
Even so, his meta calls in maining triple D-Barrier and Trap Trick are what ultimately clutched the win for him rather than Mine. Mine should be banned though, it should never have been made in the first place.
He failed the Jeff test. He played a non Jeff Leonard Mystic Mine deck
Everyone hates Mystic Mine. No idea how it stuck around this long.
Because it’s the Maxx c of the TCG. They’ll never ban it
"To keep the combo decks in check"-🤓
it allows you to play a dated archetype like Sky Striker I guess
@@KPD_KPD
Where did you get the idea that it's dated
@@coco_milktv mystic mine that can literally be stopped with any backrow hate = bad, but setting up a board with more negates than the oponent hand = skillfull
Guess I will have to try Dimensional Barrier in my Sky Striker deck now 🤷♂️
D-barrier is a popular trap card in the TCG for going in blind second. Another notable mention that can also be searched off trap trick is different dimension grounds
Yo también llevo mina a 3 en mi deck Sky, ese "Demise of the land", no sabía de su existencia, ahora se va a llevar, ya que es de juego rápido, y activar mina en el turno del oponente es una estrategia poderosa, paras en seco a tu rival.
I miss you
They gonna hit my bujins again. First they ban Kaiser, and now talks of mystic mines?
ahaha master duel have a lot of cards more toxic that mistic mine like vdf verte anaconda imperial order rongo union carrier protos and trident
And? We are just waiting for them to be banned. While you are just hugging on mystic mine.
@@tejoadi4349 in tcg those card are alredy banned, this is the first major win of mystic mine in years,and.my deck don t care about it anyway
Why he can link in battle phase??? Lazy evaluation please...
Not sure when in the video you are referring too, but it is most likely raye's quick effect.
@@darealclownpeice nah, it's a joke. in master duel we use "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazy_evaluation" that why you cant retain main phase and link to "access code talker"
imagine losing a big tournament to a turtle deck. blegh.
Mine is still strong enough if you even froze opp summmons even for one turn plus barrier plus all those negates
WE need more😁😁