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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2022
- A huge component of executing precise long-range shots - sound ballistic data. Ryan Muckenhirn joins Mark Boardman to break down ballistic calculator basics. The good news is all you need are some baseline inputs. The math is done for you - thank goodness!
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You know it’s a good 10 minute talk when it’s 27 minutes
You guys talk and talk and have said nothing other than A BC is important. No other useful information given.
Degrees, Minutes and Seconds Package accuracy is the square root of the platform Accuracy plus the square root of the ammunition Accuracy, plus the square root of the operator Accuracy. Beware the inaccuracies in Loading Manuals which can seriously Contradict reality so much on the low side, they can be dangerous, and reality needs to be used to check ballistic calculators. Make a Chronograoh you best and most Trusted Friend. Example of horribly wrong loading data. A Remington BDL in .222 Remington. a 50 grain bullet, starting at minimum load, every shot on target got there sideways, gradually upped the load to max load which should have been just over 2800fps ish from memory with that powder, and the bullets were still not stabilising. I wasted a hellmof a lot of bullets, different types of primers, and not a huge amount of powder thanks to the case size, plus a lot of time de priming cleaning and resizing Brass. So I asked the late great Dan Hackett on the Compuserve Forum for advice. He said get a Chronograph, or you're flying I'm the dark. So I did. Turned out max load per that reloading Manual was only delivering under 1500 fps muzzle velocity. withbthe 14:1 twist barrel, not a hope in hell of stabilising bullets. Could have resulted in flashover detonation ignition too, but low case volume probably helped avoid that too. Thanks to that Chrinograph I ended up with a different powder giving 3,006 fps +/- 3fps with Speer TNT 50 grain bullets, and a terrific long range fox round. So take everything you read and hear with a bucket of Salt, get a Chronograph to check everything, watch those cases for pressure signs and you should have a good foundation to start developing that Operator Marksmanship. We all need more People like Dan Hacket, a good friend ever willing to help anyone eager to learn, and a sorely missed truly great guy. RIP Dan. 🙏
338 federal!!! Next 10 min talk is it just the ugly cousin of the 8.6??? Who knows??
It seems to me that it is more important to have a range finder first. Then start using a ballistic app or device.
I know you guys partner with Hornady their 4dof program seems to be more "accurate" than traditional ballistic calculators based on bc might be worth a guest podcast with them.
How do you get the BC of a 8.6 round when the manufacturer wont give it to you? Gorilla
Remembering to adjust your environmentals for where you will be hunting can be pivotal. I live at 600 ft elevation, hunting out west have to adjust for elevation temp, etc....
Little word of advice never go by the box ever absolutely ever , always chronograph your load before you even think about a ballistic chart, see what your particular round is doing never go by the box of a factory load or any load hand load ect always chronograph before you build a drop chart
Alternatively DOPE can mean Data On Personal Equipment.
Good to see Ryan back at the table - looking forward to your next cartridge talk with him.
Great talk gentlemen, hoping to get a chronograph soon to help with data for my rifles to extend my ethical range. Right now I don't push it much more than 200yds. Have a great holiday season, all I want for Christmas is a .35 Rem 10 min talk!!!
What’s the old trusty app that you have been using since 2012 ? 👀
Thank you for making a dry subject more interesting.
Could you guys put a link for the balllistic calculator
Great Infor!
🤔 … I love this channel and the podcasts and have followed for a long time and have enjoyed all the guests, info and 300 WSM talk 😂. Buuuuuuut, after years of trying different apps online and on the phone I feel that G1 and G7 is like thinking the world is flat compared to the 4Dof system. Bryan Litz’s applied ballistics comes close but Hornady has something special going on. I don’t use many of their bullets but the app is 🔥. Just one man’s opinion. Keep’m come’n. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Using Strelok Pro The rife info of barrel length, twist rate, Ammo info off box, Scope Manufacture name, radical type and if you want temp and altitude. What a app does to save ammo use is you select range say most to zero is 25 yards if at an indoor range or 100 yds at an outdoor is the yards on the hash marks and aim hash to hit point. At a range of 25 it will be a lower hash than center hash but will be zero at 100 or even 200. Also if out there in the field and you get a 50 or 30 shot you will know hit hash for that closer shot. The point is you pick a box of ammo input info as well as rifle info and looking at scope reticle marks the yards for each and no need to adjust scope setting you print out a tape to stock. So no touch to scope you can aim out to 600 on just the radical even a second focal plane. Years ago Nikon spot on was the key to use. Ever try to see the difference in a .35 Whelen 180g, 200g, 225g, 250g when mostly 225 or 250 can be found using a SFP scope then find 180g like your 30 06 ammo and less kick. The Ballistic app will show you need to be zoomed in all the way on a SFP to get a hit at the hash marks for info to work. A ballistic app saves time and money on a zeroing if you have a radical image with hashmark info that is the key not having to mess with the turret knowing point of impact.
Hi there;
Would love a cartridge talk on the 277 fury and similar products!