Di Marzio Crunch Lab - Backwards Or Not?
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Does installing a DiMarzio Crunch Lab backwards matter?
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Lol! Those spiral metal things are known as springs.
Sandarpan Thank you! Haha!
Sandarpan I was gonna say that. ROFL
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David, I just wanted to say thanks for these videos. They really are great. You don't spend too much time babbling, and you explain everything great. Don't stop making them!
I'm also Franco American! Born and raised in France of an American father and a French mother! Awesome
It may matter when you combine split position with middle pickup (position 4 of a 5 position switch). You end up with either the outer coil or the inner coil.
Thanks for posting this man! It really helps!! I mounted a Crunch Lab less than a week ago in the correct position on a LTD M-103FM and it sounded great, but because of the nature of the maple fretboard it sounded a little too bright for my taste. So I decided to mount it backwards and WOW! Much better!! More fatter, bassier and better harmonics than in the correct position. If any of you guys want to install this pickup in a bright guitar, I recommend the backward position. If not, then go wit
Slight difference???? I hear a Huge difference! With "backward" position it sound more tight with a high mid bump. With "correct" position it sounds with more scooped high mids and increased lows.
Exactly what I was hearing. I think I like the backwards sound a little more.
You are hearing the difference in his playing
@@kimseniorb oh! really?
its a little bit brighter in the up righ position i think the regular position is better for some "normal" tones to say but i think it being backwards would be better for maybe a darker allan holdsworth sorta tone
Definetly heard more treble toawrds the bridge and a warmer sound toward the neck. Also it's a little more full towards the neck.
Would you recommend the cl/liquifire for hard rock and metal? I need a nice chunky sound for power chords yet stil kind of smooth distortion. Have you tried the d-sonic or super d? Awesome vid thanks!
actually mate, youre meant to put it backwars for drop tunings. Hence why if you buy a john petrucci music man 7 string, it comes fitted backwards...
If I'm not mistaken, at the dimarzio website they recommend the reverse position for high gain drop tunings or baritone guitars, so it might make some more difference in those cases...
funny thing is ive been wondering my self. because i was going to get one of these and i have a floyd rose and i didnt want to have to spend 50 to get it in and then have them switch it around for another 50 and then switch it again if i didnt like it.
thanks for the clarification, I was wondering about mine that was in a guitar i just bought.
sounds warmer with the blade facing the neck. i like it better facing the bridge
I've noticed it's way punchier in the correct position. A bit thin backwards.
I always wondered and as I play acoustic right now and not electric and nobody would "volunteer" their axe...
Thanks.
I would be interested in seeing a video of it coil split backward and forward . I would guess you would notice a big difference then.
The white solderless connectors, what are they actually called and where did you find them? ...that's a great idea.
I noticed a little more bite with the bar toward the bridge. Palm mute djent stuff seemed better sounding backwards. With it forward I noticed a nicer midrange punch. I keep it backwards because I do a lot of low tuned (i'm using a 7) rhythm work!
@sebkw96 The problem is, when it's installed the right way and you have a liquifire on the neck, switching between them sounds bad. If you lower the treble to get a nice smooth and not a screamer tone from the crunch lab, when you switch to the liquifire it's like you really don't have treble at all.
I wish I'd just install it backwards but now I'm stuck until I'll replace my strings which mean 2 months at least cause I don't have money and don't play much! :(
2022. Still helpful!
i had it installed backwards bar towards bridge and downtuned on a 7 string guitar A# tuning. it sounds horrible. it is very tight but when you sound power chords as they sustain, they would start to warble and sound out of phase. this was in a custom 7 Ibanez i built. bar towards neck was way better on this guitar. but it definitely makes a difference on 7 strings that downtune
You should record two tracks of rhythm but use both ways. I liked the reverse, was more early Van Halen sounding. The other way there was a really heavy bass sound, probably sounds awesome detuned and for palm muted metal though. I would prefer having the bass on the top strings, usually you dial up bass and get too much on the low strings. This reverse method would remedy that I problem I would think.
actually liked it backwards, sounded a bit softer on the highs and a bit more mellow.
sounded far clearer in correct position and personally i'd go for that
Solved the mystery , nice video, thanks.
Wouldn't call it useless since the super 3 pu is designed just for such an option.
It sounds a little more compressed backwards I think.
what's in the neck pickup position??
Hi David, I wanted to know if you did this demo with a standar spaced or a F-spaced CrunchLab because I have a Parker PDF 44 PRO and I've been thinking in changing it's JB/Jazz combo to DM pickups (it could be a CrunchLab/Liquifire or a D-Sonic/Humbucker from Hell combo).
Ben correct, c'est toujours mieux. D'ailleurs on peut faire le test avec n'importe quel double ;)
Great vid. Could not tell the difference.
I have mine backwards. Its the way to go
What are the wood combos on that parker? alder body, mahoghany neck, etc.?
Body is Ash, maple neck, rosewood board, ebony lamination on the headstock
I think it sounded better backwards, even if the difference was minimal
There is a massive difference. Backwards sounds better. It takes that upper mid shrill out of the tone.
Petrucci got his inverted
Get F-spacing. I have it on my telecaster with a 250k pot, sounds the same with not much difference honestly. The only thing you need to worry about would be the volume difference between the Crunch Lab and the strat single coils.
I actually liked it backwards better. Sounded a bit tighter and crunchier.
Hugo Welti It sounded too thin and trebly, but I can only tell because I've been playing guitar for years longer than you.
Slow down, gramps.
What is that guitar ?
+Clint Gebauer It's a Parker Fly.
Needs more cowgain.
much better the right way
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Excellent! Moi aussi!
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Backwards sounds flat as f*ck compared to Right way.
Correct way is what's right. Doesn't have that muddiness that backwards does.
Seems like deeper bass response with the pup the correct way.
It would make a HUGE difference if you coil tap the guitar! one way would sound much brighter than the other
Thank you for doing this comparison with a standard tuned guitar! Low tunings make it hard to tell what a pickup actually sounds like.
I disagree that the difference is very slight. They're quite distinct! Higher mids backwards, more treble and crunch normal. The "normal" way sounds better to me, though, IMO.
I think is like... 2+1 =3 and 1+2 =3.🙂 by the way .. I am looking for info on this pick up and you have the best sound so far.
Tech Talk: Those of you familiar with DiMarzio history will note the visual resemblance to our MegaDrive, but the design is completely different. Installation direction makes a noticeable difference in the sound, particularly with overdriven amps. With the solid bar toward the bridge, the sound is a little brighter and better-defined, and this is the direction we recommend for heavy strings and low tunings. With the adjustable polepieces toward the bridge, the sound is warmer and a touch louder, and we think this works best for standard tuning and more solo-oriented playing.
How do you get bass out of the Crunch Lab? Mine sounds super thin regardless of pickup height.
I bought a used charvel with a crunch lab in it and this gets AAA for sound and tone. Clean sound I get a great country delta blues then add some overdrive pedal and I get a great robben ford sound. Can't say enough good about the pickup. I wish the was a crunch lab for a strat single coil size.
Gotta agree that it really depends on your amp and your guitar. I have the crunch lab in two guitars and one sounds better backwards(walnut ebony) compared to another installed correctly (alder maple). I play through a vintage amp and a modern amp, both tube amps. Awesome pick up though. Especially when driven hard. Sounds best through a modern amp.
@KHGuitarFreak1988 I'm pretty sure he has the bar facing the bridge on his 7 strings.
@Wallimann J'suis allé en Provence il y a quelque années, pas loin de Fréjus, à Roquebrune sur Argens. Dommage, j'avais aucune idée qui était David Wallimann dans ce temps-là. XD
Tout cas, lâche pas, tes vidéos sont vraiment bon pour ceux qui ont pas vraiment de théorie, comme moi.
My guitar has H-H with 3 way selector switch....I replaced the bridge with a Dimarzio evolution......But now the middle position has less output and no bass.....What might be the problem....??????
you have no idea (or maybe you do) what favor youve done to humanity by A/Bing the two crunch-lab directions..the debate on the comparison is freaking insane
sorry for the bother but i'm now looking forward to equip my guitar, surely like to put Crunch Lab to the bridge, can you maybe give me an advice or opinion about the neck pickup? i think either liquifire or paff pro, have no idea \: looking both for cool crunchy sound and something warm for the jazzy stuff is it possible?? JE NE SEPPA !!
@wesmartino64 If you go to the pickup manufacturer's site. Dimarzio or Seymour Duncan, have diagrams and instructions on line. Otherwise there are sites like guitar electronics. They have schematics and diagrams which are arranged by pickup configuration. SSS, SSH, HH or HSH. Some of the more complicated schematics you have to pay for though.
There might be a slight difference. Right now I can't tell them appart because I am using very bad headphones
I think John Petrucci has some guitars with it backwards and some others with the pick up in the right position....but you know what? I love the sound of it on my guitar! :P and that's what matters in the end right? ;-)
Personally it has more balls in the "correct" position. Not so much presence but meat. There is a noticeable bump between 200-500Hz. Right where the "body" of the tone is. Backwards sounds thin to me. If you start to do any sort of "Chugging" rhythm a la metal, you'd probably notice it more.
hey ive the same parker and was wondering if youve lost any sound through using the chocolate blocks ie electrical connectors as they arnt soldered joints now im thinking of doing the same so i can do my own pick up changes cheers jak
ahhh both a great tones ! but I kinda prefer the correct position, it gives your tone more power, so maybe you can control dynamics better ! I don't know ?!! ^^
@jerrydbz
What I'd like to hear is the clean tone. Also, what it sounds like in a split with the middle single coil in the "2" position, clean and dirty. I think that's where the difference really lies....
I have a Parker p36, it looks like from the inside its just a big empty square, Do they sell different type of faceplates? I want some PASSIVE humbuckers, I got single coil lol
normal position sounds like its harmonics are accented in the higher frequencies..might cut through the mix better. however, backwards gives it a slightly fatter sound
There is no rules for position standards.. It has not to be, coz it's all about our ears and what 'n how we'd like to use..btw surely I fell in love with backwards ;)
More mid crunch in the "correct" position.
They should invent a pup you can spin on the guitar....besides that Lindsay B thing....
Sounds a bit brighter installed correctly, Just a hair more trebly, and articulate. Sounds crunchier backwards, slightly better suited to rhythm.
@guitarguy316 But there is most definitely a difference in tone! I am listening on proper monitors mind you and I've been playing for about 27 years.
i prefer the pup backwards.. sounded a tab brighter but at the same time pleasant also .. just my opinon .. keep on rocking cheers .. SwB
very close but in the correct position you could hear some more bass some palm mutes, thats the only thing i gather from this experiment.
Interesting. Probably explains why JP himself wanted it installed with the bar facing towards the neck even on downtuned guitars...
The difference was night and day to me. Like rolling back the tone knob on your guitar all the way sort of difference.
i think backwards sounds more crunchy, in the correct position the notes are more defined and straight i would say
i have just buy a Dimarzio Crunch Lab and Liquifire for my Ibanez Rg guitar, is it simple to install theme pls ??
Besides presence low end was kinda 'boosted'.Also the whle thing sunded a little bit more 'harsh' (more metal)
;)
@TheeFrozenDesire the pickup is just too high, lower by loosening the screws that hold it in place to the body
are you a big fan of petrucci or just an avid listener???
and what made you wanna purchase this pickup?
... I thought that the correct way around sounded cleaner.
the first difference i heard was that backwards sounded warmer, not as bright. i liked it.
Forward more bright, but just slightly. Nothing much useful, but good try :D
you should get the hotter of the pickups in the position closer to the bridge.
J'avais aucune idée que tu parlais français. C'est cool. T'es-tu québecois?
@Wallimann
I have no store in the area ) : so i will do it by my self
Like the incorrect position better....More Ringing and clean...
Thank you for this, David!
I have been looking all over for some instruction about this, and yours is the only video I have found on it. And it seems that installing a humbucker either way is fine.
So why do all of Dimarzio's stock images for this pickup show the bar on the bottom? That's what I referred to when I installed mine wrong :) Also the writing on the back is oriented with the bar down. And while it doesn't accross very well in this demo, the backward sound has much less gain.
I did the same thing. This is such a helpful video! Thanks!🔥
I just installed this pup in the bridge along with the Dimarzio FRED in the neck and they sound awesome together. CL is so rich and it is so clear, I feel like I'm playing rubber bands if that makes any sense (so smooth,powerful, and awesome). The FRED in the neck is amazing, and roling the tone down just smidgen makes it even sweeter and bluesy. That pickup sounds tubular just as Satch describes it.
You said that "I feel like I'm playing rubber bands." I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way, it makes total sense.
I'm about to replace my Duncan Custom (SH5) with a DP228. I didn't knew that there's a discussion upright vs. backwards-installation. Intuitive i'd have put it in the backwardsposition. This vid prevented me from additional bricolage - thx!
Correct position, sounds sharper, more depth to me....IMO
Different manufacturer talk: even SH-5 installed backward can have slight difference compared to correctly installed. Tried it on my friend's Gibson SG. Backwards is more suitable, diminishing the highs.
I thought a little more low-end also.(correct position)
I just got the Ddistortion and liquifire for my Jackson js 227 nether fit and I have to run the liquidfire backwards because the cable blocks it from going all the way in when its the correct way. They didn't fit my pickup rings very well ether.
I used MegaDrives for much of the mid 80s, into the early 90s. I noticed they sounded best with the screws at the bridge. I also played some guitars with the similarly designed D Sonic and it was the same situation. Also the same with the Crunch Lab. It comes down to a matter of taste, and not all guitars are the same. Just my experience. BTW, another Petrucci pup I'd recommend is the Steve's Special. It wasn't designed for Petrucci but he used it for a bit and it came stock on one of his Ibanez signatures. Great pickup if you use high gain because it has dialed back mids. With a lot of gain it screams, but it stays very clear. Great pickup.
GREAT DEMO !!! YOU ROCK !!!
About to do an install of a crunch lab in a customers guitar and had no idea to which way to put it.... thanks to you I now know. The "correct" way seems to have more presence and punch, btw. Thanks again!
Backwards seems to definitly suppress the high but also add a Retro-Crunch* to it, sacrificing a touch of clarity. I definitely prefer the "CORRECT" way but it's good to know! 👍
Any difference is VERY slight, but.....
Correct Position sounds cleaner with more distinction.
Rail to Back sounds a bit more ratty.
Nice job.... This was just what I wanted to hear.. Great Demo!!
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