I tried to BREAK the M2 Pro Mac mini with music - AGAIN!
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- A couple of weeks ago, I attempted to break the M2 Pro Mac mini with music production. I failed. So, I’ve taken onboard your feedback about how to push it further… and I’m back!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - The setup
02:27 - The test
10:05 - Extending the session
11:11 - Conclusion
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What sort of music do you produce?
Very cool that you are doing more music production content. For now, I do electronic mid to uptempo grooves, though I’m a soul boy at heart and plan to expand my palette. Looking forward to seeing more of your content.
Please tell your system specs
@@kefalospera2879 I asked something in comments before but I think this teste is massive!
i play around with my old dx7 connected via motu m4 to either ipad pro or macbook pro and compose synthy track, nothing complex or commercial. have recently bought logic pro after messing with garage band for quite a while on pad but finding limitations in that (or rationalizations/excuses!) as for why i needed logic pro. in a way not thrilled about logic pro for ipad because it's too different in operation to lp on mac.
Death metal and heavy metal mainly, just bought one M2pro mac mini, can't wait to see how it will perform (and outperform my 2018 mac mini)!
The main thing with doing audio production with a DAW, we use VSTS/AU’s but a lot of times you turn that Midi data from VST’s into audio so you don’t have to duplicate the VST. It’s fairly quick using this method. I been doing audio production since 88👍🏿
Thank you very much for your very informative review.
Just received CTO Mac mini M2 Pro with 12 core, 1TB HD and 32 GB of RAM.
MEGA HAPPY with this little guy 😊
This was super interesting. Used to dabble in music production as a session musician/singer in a previous life so very cool to see how things have moved on.
Thanks for this video Mark! I especially love that you show in detail the memory pressure and cpu usage!
Could you do the same type of video for video editing? Would love to see it!
Cheers!
Hi man, great testing you do! 😊 I would love to see the latency in msec with your 128 buffersize and i would love to see what happens when playing live notes on one or more synths on your keyboard to the running track !
Awesome, glad to see audio production tests! I run Bitwig and lots of plugins inc. Spectrasonics, Soundtoys, Arturia, U-He.
Very impressive results for the price! I'm loving that Apple silicon Mac minis can be used for professional work. Pretty cool.
Hey Mark, incredible videos (both of them!). I'm seriously considering getting one of these even more now. If I may, I'd like to suggest a third video on the subject: test how a different DAW, not fully "redesigned" for the ARM architecture (using Rosetta), would perform in a similar test. Thanks so much and keep up the amazing work! Cheers!!!
Thanks so much for this Mark. This is exactly what I wanted to see. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
Again, thanks for revisiting this. However I think that to really start to max it out you'd need to use multiple instances of some heavy sample libraries such as NI Kontakt, orchestral session stuff, BBC Orchestra from Spitfire, all running at least 32 bars of midi data, and also in Ableton (if you have that) start time stretching samples and changing the warp mode to complex pro on all of them. Izotope Neutron with multiple instances can get quite heavy so I'd like to see that included. On another video I watched with the M2 pro mini where DAWs were compared, Reaper came out top over logic and Ableton was last giving the worst performance. I'd like to see an Ableton stress test using the software above if you could make that ? It's the software that really makes my M1 MBA start to chug and beachball when using multiple instances So I'd be very interested to see how it handles all that in Ableton. I ran a test with Neutron 3 on every channel and on the master, it crapped out at around 25 tracks and crashed Ableton so I'd be interested to see how this would do
I'll keep this in mind, but there's only so far I can go with these tests (if I tried everything people are suggesting, we'd literally be here all year 😉). Genuinely appreciate the input and interest you're showing, though!
Another way to enjoy the afternoon, chilling out (like the CPU in the M2 Pro Mac Mini) with another Mark Ellis video!
Haha - cheers, John!
Great Video. Keep doing it Mark
VASTLY INTERESTED HERE! Thank you, MARK ♥♥♥♥
Thank you!
Very impressed! I too use a lot of Arturia, Native Instruments and Spectrasonics related plugins. Generally I’ve seen most music producers recommended to opt for the M2 (w. 16GB) or the M2 Pro, with the Max only really required for those who do orchestra work / require hundreds of tracks.
I assume the performance showcased here will also apply for the 14’ and 16’ MacBook Pro’s with the M2 Pro chips since I’ll need it on the go for future gigs. Was worried on the fence that I’d be sacrificing performance going for the Pro instead of the Max but this fully convinced me and I fall under the pro-sumer hobbyist category anyway haha. This will be my first M series Apple device transitioning from my old Intel 2016 MBP. Thank you so much Mark for testing a use case a lot of us producers really needed man! 🙏🏽
Thanks for the tests! And you are funny and seems to be a cool guy..lol
Nice job, thanks!
Thank you man am gonna by this stuff cheers.
Love the video, it would be interesting to do the same experiment with other Macs, such as the 14 MBP M2 Pro, or even the MBA just for content hahah
that's pretty unbelievable that the mac can play all that / fx etc. with no sweat - music heaven
Well!... This video is quite interesting and timely. I'm in the process of buying either a s/h imac pro, a mac mini pro max or mac studio.
Your series of videos on the subject have been very useful. Thank you.
At the time of writing rhis comment, I thunk I will buy the mac studio. My primary use will be musically oriented.
I was extremely impressed with the performance of the mac mini pro max you used but I feel the mac studio, will serve me even better, (I believe)
Thank you for the video content you provided.
Very helpful. Thanks.
Pleasure!
As I said last time… loving the music based reviews❤
Awesome!
I've enjoyed synth music since it was a novelty in the '60s. I have all the albums of Isao Tomita and Wendy Carlos, among others like Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk. To watch YOU try to beat the stuffing out of an M2 Mac using synth music is sheer heaven! If you want to make more of these types of videos, I'm all for it! Mahalo!
Wow, what an awesome comment. Thank you!
Add in some OMD…..
@@johnwade7430 Absolutely!
ha, same here jim! i knew wendy when she was walter!
@@bitkahuna I was SO glad when she released the "Switched-On Box" set of CDs in the '90s. My old records were played to death and had clicks and pops all over them, LOL! And yes...the artist was labeled "Walter Carlos." I didn't know she was Wendy until I found the "Switched-On Brandenburgs" album in 1978 or so. Her music has almost been the soundtrack of my life. I want to have her "Sinfonia to Cantat No.29" played at my funeral, lol!
I loved this video. I have been really looking for a computer for music production and this might be the one but after I buy the screen the hard drives the hub the mouse the keyboard I might as well have just bought a MacBook pro 16 inch 🤦 now I am back into the confused state again lol
i think this has helped me make my mind up, when it comes to retiring my old 2009 MacPro. I still love it, but its not suitable for the future, whereas this is looking pretty damn good. Either this or a Studio, and I'm more inclined to think that this is more likely to provide what I need. Very interesting.
Would love to see you do a video like this but for Pro tools running video codecs with over 100 tracks/midi and in surround sound (even if you dont have it setup to listen to) just to SEE how this thing would react. I have been doing that with a 2013 Mac Pro with 12gb of ram for a couple of years now and I assume this can handle it even better considering new technology and faster ram. A lot of my issues dont seem to be I need a ton of ram but the new software wants everything to be faster reacting and that causes delays on my older Mac especially when scrolling and doing playback pro tools says the CPU buffer needs to be lowered but then it playback fine when im not scrolling through 100 track session and playing back on another monitor.
Mark, I watched your three reviews of the Mac mini M2 and they convinced me to buy one. I'm supremely satisfied with my purchase as the speed was significantly faster than my M1 MacBook Pro. Noteworthy was when I chatted with my contact at the Apple Store, he mentioned that this model far outsells the Mac Studio. Again, thanks for your work on this and for your videos!
Love to hear this! Enjoy 👍
This is interesting. I’d gone down the echo route at home originally for Spotify and to save £££. However I’ve noticed the Alexa doesn’t hear as well as she used to and rarely is able to activate the smart plugs I have set up. I’ve got them setup to work with both Alexa and Siri and find the HomeKit implementation much more reliable. I’m thinking about going the apple route.
Hi Mark, love your reviews, and they all got a thumbs up. I have watched them all and find them very informative. Is yours the 10 core or the 12 core? I am torn between going with the 32gb or the 12 core for the upgrade, what would you recommend? I'm also using it for music production.
There ya go, buddy.
I was wondering on the last vid 🤔. Glad folks caught the lack of MIDI notes.
Next truck might be to lay your forearm across a 49 key controller with 50 omnisphere tracks armed.
Although at this point, with your help, I may have decided to get my MMPro and test it myself 🙏🏻.
Thanks !
Cab you do it again with only midi tracsks with String libraries ? Spitfire, Vsl........
Yes!… Very very interested in Mac mini for music production. I’m trying to put together a machine for music production. I may do video in 3-D, and all that stuff in the future but right now I’m just trying to make a very sensible/good music, production machine.
Super interesting thanks! Can you say if the fan was hearable? OK you did wear headphones.. but maybe you noticed something?
But yes, having a playback track with lots of tracks and then recording some audio like voice or guitar would be interesting. Latency?
I will use mine for recording more of singer songwriter stuff probably. So more audio and maybe a bit of midi. Though... my test was kind of a dance song with only midi tracks on it. 😀
thanks for the video! ended up getting a refurb unit from apple.
what's the dock you're using? i think it's a satechi? that would be quite useful in my setup.
thanks!
Great 2nd stress test! Thanks! I am glad I watched your last two Mac Mini Videos, they convinced me to get a M2 Pro with 16GB RAM a d 1TB. Should be great for music making.
Besides Logic I will test it with LUNA, which has a reputation of pretty CPU heavy.
I am excited 😊, also waiting for my Apollo x4😊!
Enjoy!
@@MarkEllisReviews Thank You!
I don’t think I’m in danger of breaking my Mac, I love making Mega Drive music with Chipsynth MD and it had 6 channel FM and 4 channel PSG ! I also enjoy making music like Kygo and am also jealous you have Korg Triton!
Regarding Omnisphere you have also load some patches. Otherwise of course the ram will chill..
This is probably the closest correct test on youtube for actually testing the computer for audio production. Finally someone testing Omnisphere and Arturia plugins which destroy my 2012 macbook lol. The only thing I'm slightly curious about and disappointed it wasn't tested is using big heavy effect pads, 4-8 note chords with poly synths not just basses as honestly even my 2012 macbook handles basses just fine most of the time. It's when I throw in chords with patches that have tons of effects on them where it really struggles. Orchestral library's would be of big curiosity to me as well. If you do another you should definitely try that out! If not I might just have to test it for myself haha.
Either way thanks for doing this video!
As someone who is in the exact same boat using a trusted 2012 Macbook pro: For the first time Im running into issues of plugins not working on Catalina anymore (Izotope for example). Did you have take the step to a Mac mini? And if so, how is your experieince? Because of the 16GB I have put in the Macbook now, it kind of feels less like an upgrade
@skeletonmodel I ended up buying an M1 Mac Mini 16gb ram, which honestly was great and was slaying the music stuff but I wasn't really messing with Orchestral stuff or large tons of tracks/effects projects to that point. Video editing was a little iffy but very usable still. The 4k playback wasn't quite as smooth as I wanted but still did a very good job at that.
Despite all of that I wanted to future proof a little (or a lot lol) and honestly just have a way overkill beast of a computer now so I upgraded to the M2 Ultra studio 64gb which honestly idk if I’ll ever max anything out on that lol.
The M1 Mac mini with 16GB was such a ridiculous upgrade from the MacBook though, and would have been fine for all my music needs I’m pretty sure. I wish I stressed it a little more with large orchestral pieces to give you a full review on that but it really was a gigantic upgrade even with both having 16gb of ram. I’m not just saying that because I still need to sell the Mac mini still either haha, I don’t think you could go wrong with a mini. I’d maybe consider 32gb of ram for future proofing or if you’re going to do tons of tracks with virtual instruments/effects but 16 gb might honestly be enough too. The M1’s are probably pretty damn affordable now too, I wish I sold it sooner haha but oh well.
It was a little bit of a bummer to move along from the MacBook because that one in particular was such a special model but it’s really been worth it and I think you’d be very happy with whatever if you do upgrade. Sorry that was so long haha
@@kcrocks5Don't apologize! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experience with a complete stranger! I really apreciate it! I do not use orchestral libraries. I think my most taxing plugins would be like Izotope Ozone, Arturia Pigments and the Arturia reverbs. The most taxing would be my electronic projects which rely heavily on delays, reverbs and layers of distortions. You have me doubting now though... Like a 16gb M2pro would cost me 1750. A Mac studio M1 max with 32gb would go for 1799. That would seem like the better choice.. Food for thought
@skeletonmodel Of course! And that's a tough call. My 16GB M1 Mini did really well with Arturia instruments that just wouldn't run on the Macbook at all like Augmented Strings/voices and pigments. I just tested a large 50 track project I'm working on with a bunch of plugins on each track, a couple Arturia instruments, a few instances of Omnisphere, wayyy too much stuff on the master lol and it's running at 11.36 GB of ram. I also have the buffer size at 256 samples and my CPU is at 60%, but I also use Ableton which doesn't take advantage of the multicores. I want to say the 16GB should be enough but I'm not 100% sure how the Arturia verbs, and Ozone tax a system.
A couple other things to consider is it is really nice having the extra ports on the Studio and also the M3 Minis I would imagine are coming out very soon, with the M3 studios probably in fall? So there might be some good deals on older models or even the newer ones coming up. Definitely check out Appleinsiders price guide they have a list of various models for sale on different sites which often have a coupon code from them that you can use to get a decent amount off as well (if you're thinking of buying new). Either way good luck and I hope that helped some!
@@kcrocks5 Yeah thanks so much! I can get a deal for 1500 on a M1 Max studio. Pretty sure I will go that way. I think those won't be on sale for much longer and the M3 will be probably double the money, but spec wise I should be fine with the M1 max. Thanks so much!
That was great more!!!
Thanks! Plenty more where this came from!
Would love to see some live tracking with a heavy session to see how low we can set the buffer to get low latency while having smooth play back. Maybe from a mic, or playing a guitar into a amp sim plugin? I have a very expensive mbp in my basket, so tempted to get it but would love to see what king of latency can achieved.
I'll keep that in mind... one day maybe!
Nice one for listening to the feedback! Firstly, is you omnisphere patch a multi sample preset? Or is it a single oscillator/ waveform type patch. Running this test at 128 is interesting as that is the buffer speed i most use when recording hardware , however as I’m sure you know you would squeeze a lot more running 512 and above , but you would have latency on your vocal track as a result . Could you look at omnispheres view and settings menu ( where it shows you what % of the cpu it is using per instance)
Voice stacking would also demonstrate the impact to the cpu well, blank page single omnisphere ,start with a single note mid region, then two, then three ad infinitum press play and see where the machine will get to before it crackles, this way you don’t have to duplicate omnisphere but you are stacking voices so it’s a very close equivalent.
Oversampling would also be an interesting one to visit if you have any plug-ins which allow for this. Vital (free and widely used )or Serum with 4 x oversampling would be an interesting test.
My projects tend to have channel counts between 75 and 100 channels with an array of different plugs, I’m trying to work out if I go for the ram upgrade or not, I don’t use many rompler or multi sample library’s so these pure synth style tests are perfect for my pre purchase questioning ! Thanks for your time and effort!!
hey Mark
thanks for this new video, it was me who mentioned the buffer size and the midi data things.
in the next video could you do a brutal test please? if you could lower the buffer size down to the lowest of 16! samples , that one is the most stressing for the cpu. also, with omnisphere , when duplicating the tracks, could you please change the presets, 'cause when you using the same patch it's not stressing the memory further cause it's using the same samples. thanks again for the new video ! all the best, kurt
Thanks for the mention before! I'll keep this in mind, but there's only so far I can go with these tests (if I tried everything people are suggesting, we'd literally be here all year 😉). Genuinely appreciate the input and interest you're showing, though!
Nice to see this series get another part Mark. 35+ various synths with midi and 68 tracks is much more of a test. Especially with an hour song! Much more taxing compared to the Ocean Eyes demo bundled with earlier versions of Logic. As you say in comments, you can't keep pushing this further and doing everything suggested. This project is already an order of magnitude bigger than what you'd create yourself usually, so you are completely future proofed.
I do wonder how a 16GB/512 SSD M2 Mini would compare to the M1. I assume it's just 15% more powerful in Logic than M1. What SSD space of the 512GB is free with everything installed? An easy like again Sir...
Haha - thank you!
Can you try some more sample instrument in orchestral music! Like EastWest Hollywood series or sprite fire BBCSO, thank you so much 😊
Ha ha , good you got the Pop filter. 🙌
Great review. Can you with Ableton as well? Thnx
I really want one of these things as my main computer.
I was wondering what is the model of your widescreen monitor ? Thx !
Hi! Thanks for this tests. Have you never test the Acustica Audio plugins? nobody testing good this plugins in a M2 Pro base configuration.. Can you give me some feedback about this? Many thanks !
What is the unit underneath the mac mini (has usb ports on the front) That looks awesome! I want one!
Are you loading your samples from the dock? ive bought myself a thunderbolt add on nvme up to 40gb thing and the dock think im going to stick my NI content and samples on thenvme and ssd in the dock and save my projects to the thunderbolt nvme. Ive ordered the 32gb 1tb imac pro so hoping that will be enough to only have the instruments and programs loaded to.
do you have Straylight kontakt instrument ?for some reason some of the patches really eat up a lot of cpu . I wonder how the mac mini would handle it ?
I see skeuomorphism is alive and well in the world of Logic Pro plugins 😀
Oh, isn't it just - and I absolutely love it.
what about adding acoustica
plugins?
Really nice review for music production. Thank you so much! By the way, how about the fan noise?
Thanks! No fan noise!
@@MarkEllisReviews wow... incredible! Thx!
People are defo interested to see results for music production, what we want to know is real world CPU vs RAM differences for M2, M2 Pro, M2 Max etc.Thanks!
Mark hi.. great review… I am in the dilema of buying a Mac mini pro… but shall I wait for the M3 or save maybe $100 when the M3 ships out… thanks
Hello Mark, I'm trying to set up a system to record audio and video podcast, and I have a few questions. 1. Are you recording video into a camera and moving the video to the Mac Mini to edit (what program) the video. 2. Do you have the video recording and the mic connected to the camera to get good volume?
Hi Mark,
I have a question for you: I found a great deal on a second-hand Mac Mini M1 with 16GB RAM and a 1TB SSD for $600. I plan to use it for music production on logic pro x and smaller projects, as well as an all-around desktop PC. Do you think this is a good choice for my needs, and do you recommend the Mac Mini M1? Also, do you think it will be future-proof for at least the next 5 years? Would it be worth getting the M2 chip, or do you think the M1 is sufficient for my needs?
Also, I wanted to add that I'm a big fan of your work and really appreciate your expertise in the tech space.
Thank you!
How good is the Pro mac Mini with Photo editing such as Photo shop Lightroom etc also what about word and excel. i shoot a Nikon Z9 45mp and raw images. this is a chunky file for photos. I am in need of an upgrade and don't want to muck things up considering there is no monitor or keyboard .
Did you stay at 128 sample buffer when playing back the hour-long version? If so, this is impressive. It's gotten a lot easier to playback at lower buffer size over the years, but that's a pretty solid test.
Glad you're doing this. Might inspirer me to do some audio production stuff as well.
Next time I want to hear the music, though!
Yep, didn’t change the buffer size at all. As for hearing that particular piece of music… trust me, you didn’t want to hear that 😂
Add guitar Amplifier sims by UA or Neural that will push it!
Hi Mark is the m2 getting hot? I work on cubase and need a new mac. Gr.Ness
What sound card are you using?
With only 16BG of unified ram. That's incredible!
Please show the performance meters of the DAW
good job
Thanks!
MARK- you might want to try extremes of pitch, doubled, etc and also polyphonic/multi-timbral instrumental arrangements with midi/VSTs from 3rd party developers which have enormous "footprints". Thanks for reading this. ♥
I'll keep this in mind, but there's only so far I can go with these tests (if I tried everything people are suggesting, we'd literally be here all year 😉). Genuinely appreciate the input and interest you're showing, though!
@@MarkEllisReviews Well, Mark! I certainly understand your position and perhaps it is not germane to your general audience makeup. I confess, I am brand new to Mac and Logic plus - I am curious only because I tend to compose for large instrumental ensembles and use several VSTs to accomplish my mock-ups. All that aside, I must admit that I have become an enormous fan of your video and the way you do not talk DOWN to your viewers but engage them with honest discourse. This is all refreshing to me and I am grateful that you are here. Cheers! ♥
@@enriquesanchez2001 Thank you - that means an awful lot!
I swear i watched one of your videos and you had a monitor stand with draws. Did i imagine it? :)
Nope! I've got more than one desk ;)
For Music composing
Thanks for the vid. Any thoughts on if it's worth upgrading to the 12 core for music production or is that just over kill?
No hassles! I wouldn’t bother personally!
Check Geekbench scores of 10 vs 12 cores and see if the extra cost is worth it for you. Don't forget resale value will increase accordingly.
I broke mine. It crashed three times before I found the issue. I was Final Cut Pro, rendering a video with a missing image file. It would render to about 50% several times and crash. It’s more of a software bug. But, it crashed.
Would you please tell me what monitor you have connected to your mini ? Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Thanks for the kind words. It’s an MSI but it has since been discontinued I’m afraid.
@@MarkEllisReviews Thanks for the quick response Mark.... the hunt will continue.
Nice video
Thanks!
Definitely a video version of this stress testing Final Cut Pro and davinci resolve if you have it!. Resolve has a free version but you can’t use 10bit clips on it annoyingly you need the paid studio version. But yea doing an hour/hour and half timeline with broll, titles, multi cam, colour grading to see how the playback is. Does it play back in real time or lag and what are export times. I keep seeing other channels doing one minute timeline playback and render tests. But that’s irrelevant most people are making videos of 20mins plus and if documentary style over an hour so those other channels showing a one minute timeline plays back smooth is meaningless!.
I'll keep that in mind - thanks.
A lot of those plugin manufactures are not recommending updating to Ventura until they are fully compatible. Are you having any issues with them?
Nope.
What am I doing wrong? I bought a M2 Pro Mac mini 512/16GB and the dreaded system overload message came up in Logic! Just 2 tracks of audio, drummer track and 4 tracks of midi on a 4 minute song. Nothing near what was done here. Logic is on the system, but I do save the files on an external drive. Is that the issue? Should I keep the file on the Mac mini and archive it on the external only when I'm done?
Does Photoshop or Lightroom make it crash?
It’s interesting to watch the M chips being stressed in a real example. The problem with benchmarks, for me, is that I have no idea what is going on and what the numbers even mean. My son is a computer engineer and impresses his old school profs that use Linux and he can compile code in a fraction of the time. Could you put your “old” M1 Mac mini to a similar test to see if you can break it?
Glad it's useful, Daniel. As for the M1 version... I'd love to, but I'm not convinced it's worth the effort that goes into these videos, unfortunately. I'll keep it in mind.
A oneknob pumper? 👀 😂
I would like to hear you sing or talk in real time, while the track is playing; and record your voice with compressor EQ delay and reverb on your vocal track...if it doesn't glitch...It's a MONSTER CPU !!!!!
You don't want to hear me sing, trust me.
Lookin’ good!:-)
To be honest, I keep bouncing between the M2 Pro Mac Mini and the M1 Max Studio; the thing is I like to create large orchestral Templates and traditionally, orchestral Virtual instruments need lots of RAM so the Studio with 64GB of RAM seemed the way to go. But this Mini does look impressive. I would go for the 12 cores plus 32 GB RAM
One way you can do this is to hook up lots and lots of RAM on a system via Eithernet - by ‘Daisy-chaining’ up to say 3 or 4 mac mini’s and have one Mac control all of the Virtual instruments via Vienna Ensemble Pro. I was gonna do this and then the Studio came out - with an 8GB internal drive you could have all of your Vir instr’s on a really fast drive… but the cost!
Then along comes this Mac Mini Pro version; and it seems that this daisy chain effect could work again.
And of course, you could use an M2 as the Master and the Slaves could be M1 Mini’s which are now cheaper to buy:-) …….you already have an M1 lurking around in your Studio so you could use this in exactly the same way. Not sure how you would set the system up for electronic music… Don’t see why you can’t just use VEP as well; a virtual flute is the same as a virtual synth….
PS…. I love GarageBand and logic. However, there are a couple of really good reasons to use Reaper. So… I am going to give a Reaper a really good shot.
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...and this is one step above Apple's entry-level offering. I am not a pro user (I consider myself an "advanced enthusiast") and now I see why Apple seems to be pushing back the introduction of new units. Why would they?...their current offerings rock....no pun intended. I hope the upcoming Mac Pro addresses 3D creation and (relative) GPU rendering "deficiencies".
I've got a number of massives exes.
We are interested in music making that’s how I found you
That's awesome to hear! Welcome onboard.
Is this 96khz?
6:54 Would have been cool to let it run see how fast/slow it is to load the project. why did you cut it ? That's part of the things that are important
Easy, try Studio One lol.
I'm wondering how your M2 Pro would handle a heavy sample library like Spitfire Audio's BBC orchestra or Albion One. That's why I'm still in doubt to go for 32GB or not.
I use the BBC orchestra on my M1 and M2 and don’t have any issues at all.
@@CXtheproducer1Are you on 16GB RAM?
Sir please reply me I am buy Mac mini M2 pro really
Now I watch these kind of content with caution because when the M1 launched everyone was like wow this chip is so powerful and stuff, which the benchmarks proved but for some reason it’s completely unable to correctly run my Ableton projects made with a 2017 I5 4 core. Why because real world usage differ from how these systems are tested. In my project there is a lot of different type of processing, lots of audio cuts, warping, automations, lots audio and midi processing …etc On paper my 2017 i5 4cores is supposed to be utter shit compared to newer chips but IRL it’s fucking awesome and make stuff M chips can’t run. Why is that ? Am I missing something ?
for most music productions the M1 (first generation) is already sufficient..
You've just sold me an m2 pro mac mini, I hope you're getting a kick back from apple 🙂
A music production test that doesn’t use the most used and industry standard sample instrument player (Kontakt). You cannot be serious!!
How I have successfully navigated life to the age of 43 I will never know, you're right.
I think the videos have more quality than what the thumbnail could show…. Not sure you really need to put those exaggerated expressions in all the thumbnails to catch more clicks on your videos. This is just a thought! I like your reviews otherwise. Thank you
Thanks for the kind words. I'm afraid that's exactly what you have to do to get noticed, mate.
@@MarkEllisReviewsI’m sure you know more than me about that :)
I enjoy your reviews and I’ll keep watching them 👍🏼
I’m sorry but this is not a test. My windows 7 laptop from 2012 with 8gb of RAM could handle that music project easily.
Try again with minimum 500 audio tracks all playing at the same time. All with minimum 5 plug-ins. All with EQ processing, compression, etc etc.
It being an hour long is irrelevant. You can keep it to a 1 minute track if you want. The key test is how many audio tracks and how much simultaneous processing the computer can handle while playing back flawlessly.
Who is going to produce music on a base level M2 Pro Mac mini with 500 audio tracks, all with a minimum of five plugins each, all playing stuff at once? Genuine question.
@@MarkEllisReviewsIt’s to see how far you can push it. Of course it can handle less than 50 tracks, if it couldn’t I’d throw the thing in the bin and never buy an Apple machine again.
You can’t know what a machine is capable of unless you know its limits. I don’t think this test tells us anything. It’s like opening up safari and testing if it can connect to the internet and open 5 websites.
Basically: if it passes the test I’ve suggested, you could say to everyone that the Mac Mini should be able to handle literally any music project you throw at it. Right now, no one is the wiser.
@@conorfurlong I think I’ve demonstrated that this thing can perform well beyond its pay grade, mate. Thanks for watching and engaging, regardless 👍
@@MarkEllisReviews I’m sorry but you haven’t demonstrated that at all. This test, as I say, would be easy for a middle of the road laptop from ten years ago to complete.
If this example is the limit of what a person looking to buy a computer for music production would be using it for, then the M2 Pro Mac Mini would be massive overkill and a massive waste of money. Just buy a 600 quid laptop. That would be more than enough.
@@conorfurlong I’m not convinced. Also… Windows. Yikes.
Is the Bluetooth still working good?
Yup!
@@MarkEllisReviews Awesome! Thanks Mark. Your videos have been very helpful for my purchasing decisions.