Free your TOBII ET5 from your monitor | New Mount & Calibration software | Tobii Tripod Bracket
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- New mounting option for your TET5, no longer are you tied to your monitor! Tested in Microsoft Flight Simulator.
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A great addition to the Tobii line up, adding versatility to suit your sim set up, but at a price that is difficult to make it a five star recommendation. To find the software download go to Tobii Gaming, accessories …Tobii Tripod. Download link is on this page gaming.tobii.com/product/tripod-bracket/
Whereabouts, please, Mark?
@@garryscanlan235 on this page gaming.tobii.com/product/tripod-bracket/
I am glad to see this. This was desperately needed. My original mounting system gave out after about a month. I made my own mounting system that duplicates this new functionality using some scrap lumber and it has worked great ever since. Looking forward to general availability of the new calibration software.
I got my tobii 5 a couple of years ago and love it, the only problem I had with it was the attachment - to fasten it to the monitor it used a couple of velco pads to stick under the monitor, then you would attach the tobi to that via magnetic strip. however the bezel of the bottom of the monitor gets very warm and over a few months the sticky back on the velco would not stick anymore. So now I had to find a box, make it the same height and now stand the tobii on that. I might look into getting the tripod, as I will soon be getting a new monitor and don't think the box will fit properly -- depends on monitor stands etc. However I still recommend the tobii 5 :)
With my Tobii 5 I can adjust the ALL directional movement speeds to fast or slow and everything in between. Maybe this brilliant new software albeit on in ‘ Alfa ‘ Cartier’s to those who only want to sit to the side of the screen and not directly in front of the screen to fly. Their marketing research really must have shown this new mount and software was needed and worth investing in. I personally would not fly without Tobii 5 it’s brilliant but this new offering at the price mind boggling for what it does. With that said Mark as always thank you for this informative content.
Fantastic comment FSRobert! Well I did feedback to them that the adhesive they use was not all that heat resistant and when hot caused the bracket to fall off my monitor. Good news indeed if they listen to their customers. However I will not shell out 40 euros for a piece of bent metal and a magnet. Tobii need to severely reduce the price. 10 euros seems about right. At this level of pricing it's about 20% of the cost of the Tobii eye tracker itself!. Ridiculous. I hope Mark got it for free.
Amazing how wrong some companies are when it comes to pricing. Unbelievable.
I agree, overpriced, but you need to factor in the software development required to enable this.
I use a "NEEWER Upgraded Super Clamp and 11" Adjustable Friction Power Articulating Magic Arm Compatible with SmallRig Camera Cage/Rig, Further Expansion for Monitor/LED Light/Webcam, Max Load 4.4lb/2kg, ST20" to give flexible placement. Should be even better with the new software.
excellent Mark
I love this Sim! Thanks for the review. Based on your reviews, I also use the Honeycomb and Brava flight controls. I'd really like to add the Tobii to my experience. So, enough said. I'm in! But, I do have one question please: My rig is using the 4090 RTX, I have a 'cockpit' of 3 x 32" 4k monitors. I believe you taught me how to use the experimental feature of MSFS to make the outer monitors expand my visuals. So, I have a very amazing view of my environment. What I wish I had, is more visual control over the cockpit... up, down, side to side. Currently, I have to grab my mouse and spin the wheel, rotate, up, down, sideways. I think the Tobii would be such a terrific addition. Only, what would that do to the view I see in my secondary monitors? Nothing? Is Tobii just managing the center/primary monitor? Thanks Sim for your continued very valuable instructional information! I'm very close to grabbing the H3 as well. I found the HP G2 was a bit too immersive for me as far as VR is concerned. I could only fly for 20 minutes and then I felt quite exhausted. But, it's very nice to have it as an option. By the way, could you speak to Windows 11 decrementing support for Mixed Reality and thus making the HP G2 VR headset a boat anchor. I might not upgrade beyond Win11 23H2 so I retain the VR capability. But, I hate to not be current with my OS due to security updates. Best regards and thanks for a reply to this. I'm very keen on the Tobii.
The mounting bracket will not add to my Tobii basket to checkout. I have notified them. But, I did get a 15% discount on the tracker device itself. But, I sense that because the Honeycomb gear is so bulky in front of my monitor which naturally sits lower, this bracket mounted as you have it, must be a valuable tech addition. I hope they solve it. Jerry April 1 2004. I just realized today's April Fools... perhaps that has something to do with it? ;-) I'm excited about the added freedom in the cockpit!
Looks cool! But I would like to make this corner with my own hands. Tell me, what are the linear dimensions in inches or millimeters of this corner.
I use both the Tobii 5 as well as the Pimax Crystal. One thing I have noticed is if Tobii 5 is installed the eye tracking on the Pimax does not work. I've used my phone's camera to see if the Pimax IR Leds are lit and they are not. If I uninstall the Tobii 5 from my system, Pimax eye tracking works fine. If I then re-install the Tobii5 it does not work. The other thing I have noticed is the in Device Manager there is 2 Eye Chip USB devices. It seems that the Tobii5 and eye tracking on the Pimax Crystal don't play well together. Has anyone else noticed this problem? Any fixes out there?
I could not find the tobii display setup tool program. Do you have a link?
Oh yes hello. My monitor will be mounted from a ceiling mount so it won't be directly in front of me. But this new Tobii will be in a tripod and I am assuming that the Tobii Must be directly in front of me. Thanks ! Enjoy your videos!
Yes it needs to be in front of you.
Mark.. You are on a 48" monitor. Tobii says 30" max. What is the actual largest monitor that can work well with the TET device?
Limitation applies only to eye tracking, no limit on head tracking. As shown in this video eye tracking worked on this size monitor, subject to where you have the sensor mounted.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks Mark. TET appears to be smoother than TrackIR5. Meaning less blurry while in motion. Does that match your observations at all??
@@rmm9676 yes, it is my preferred head tracker. Slightly less configurable than TrackIR, but easy to use and no need to wear anything on your head to make it work.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks Mark. I will consider the Tobii. BTW - An appeal for more X-plane content especially with VR. X-Plane has the AirFoilLabs Cessna 172 that supports real world training better than MSFS. That is my use case. I am considering stepping into VR via the PICO 4 with 11th Gen CPU i7-11700K and a 3080 Ti. We need X-Plane content and settings guidance tailored for those who have not invested in an RTX 4090 yet. Thanks again. Cheers.
I tried to run the new software and it worked but I couldn’t get it to be recognized by MSFS. The Tobii experience app was complaining about needing the display to be selected and calibrated again. Just like the warning on the download page says. So I did the display selection and normal calibration and then the alpha software calibration is lost. Ended up needing to quit and restart Tobii experience to get the sim to recognize it. Seems kinda buggy still. I realize it’s alpha.
Could you explain the order of operations that worked for you? Like when the sim is started, alpha calibration run, and any subsequent interaction with the regular Tobii experience interface. Thanks!!
How bright are the flashing red lights on the Tobii 5 in real life?
They look really bright and distracting in the videos.
You can hardly see them. The camera makes it look far worse than it is.
Mark, what version is the alpha build?
There is only one Available…Tobii gaming…accessories….Tobii tripod bracket…download link there
@@SimHangerFS Thanks Mark!!
tobii display setup tool Link plz
Look under tobii...accessories...tripod bracket, you'll find it there.
im about to loose it since i cant get pass the buble popiing part and cant figure out why. all lights are off pitch black room and low light, i have glasses but trried without them and please help! i feel like a child wiith a trantrum but for fucks sakes cant figure it out.
where is that software? is it tobii experiance ?
You need some light in the room. The sensors must be able to track your eyes. The software is Tobii gaming…accessories….tripod bracket. You’ll find it there.
Thank-you Mark for the review of the new Tobii accessory to its Eye Tracker. I have 2 plausible workarounds for those not willing to pay the roughly $40 (USD) for what is essentially a piece of angle-iron. Nevertheless, for those not willing to experiment or not at all mechanically inclined, I believe they should purchase this “tried and true” mount.
For those who wish to use their Tobii Eye Tracker on a tripod, there are very inexpensive cellphone mounts which may be adapted to hold the Eye Tracker. Online, I have found most of these mounts to be under $15 (USD).
For those who wish to be more industrious and position their Eye Tracker in a similar manner you did, they need three materials to make the mount: a wooden block, duct tape, and a piece of metal that attracts magnets or a refrigerator magnet. Attach the metal/refrigerator magnet to the wooden block with the duct tape, and voilà! Of course, substitute whatever materials one might have on hand, but this is the gist.
Please do note that I have no qualms paying for the work of others. But given what I paid when purchasing my Tobii Eye Tracker, I believe this mount should be an included accessory.
Again, thank-you sir for your review. I look forward viewing your next post.
For those with large monitors (like Mark's), the tripod bracket combined with the alpha calibration software (I posted a link on this site) represents a plausible workaround that may yield the benefits of Tobii ET5 while using a larger-than-recommended display where you (typically) are sitting much further away from the Tobii than if you had a typical (smaller) desktop monitor. In that use case, the bracket makes sense, and free shipping to your home is included for the 40 USD. Yeah, it's pricey, but if it gives you a rock solid Tobii experience, more power to ya! The huge monitor/TV (e.g. Mark's) typically do not have a good spot to mount the Tobii anyway, and the tripod bracket taped to your yoke (as Mark did) is an elegant solution to a serious problem.
Tobii bracket £40 - 3d printed bracket £0.20 ~😁👍
Software development cost…..? Don’t forget your paying for the dev side too.
I have a Flight Velocity panel. It stands pretty high mounted to the front edge of my desk. I had to sit my monitor on books to get it high enough for my Tobi 5 to have enough clearance above the flight panel. I decided to try mounting the Tobi directly to my Flight Panel. It works great. All I had to do was re-calibrate it. Now my monitor is lowered to a more sensible height and my stiff neck is thanking me ! I just have it stuck on with 3 small blobs of BluTac.
Thanks for an excellent tutorial video.
I took the flex mount that came with the Tobi I tracker and mounted upside down on the top of my Alpha Yoke as you have shown, seems to work OK with the original Tobi Experience. Do I have to remove the old soft ware prior to installing the new software?
I would appreciate your new sensitivity setting with the alpha software for GA aircraft.
Unfortunately all these manufacturers are infected with the "Apple Inc." virus. I mean they know what the public needs. So for a bended piece of iron the price is just way too high. I made one myself a couple of weeks ago with some scrap wood. works really great.
I did not buy the bracket, but I did try the new software and can immediately see and feel a significant improvement without adjusting sensitivities in MSFS. Smoother tracking, Gaze is noticeably more stable and precise and better range of head rotation. I've only done a couple of flights for but the Tracking is noticeably improved overall. Pro Tip Take your time to get familiar with the head position adjustments. Accurate positioning adjustments will really pay off in use!
Great video Mark as always, as an xbox and pc user i think things like this should be made for consoles as well, i am sure these type of products would make a fortune for the manufacturers. i guess its not possible otherwise somebody would have already jumped on the bandwagon but with the power of the new gen consoles i would think there must be a way.
Hello Mark, all the Pilots, thank you for this very pertinent and useful video.
One technical question=>After the tracker calibrated with the Tobii Display Setup Tool=>Do you still use the Tobii Experience in Pin to start window or is it better to close this program?
Thank you so much all your advices.
Regards
Keep Tobii experience running. The new software only overwrites the eye calibration
Have a TET5 mounted bottom center of a 48" OLED. Always struggled with it as it was jittery and not stable. This new software alone seems to be a game changer. looking at instruments is no longer an eye strain. I used to turn off the eye tracking to program the flight plan, and I can now do it with eye tracking engaged! When I don't move my head, the image is dead-stable Awesome update Tobii, just took way too long to do it!
Where did you find the software?
Mark: I obtained the TET5 and the tripod bracket, might I ask what is the tripod you are showing in your video? I have the Alpha and Bravo yoke/TQ clamped to my desk and same 48" monitor as you. I am unsure about using double-sided tape as when not flying sim, I rest my keyboard atop my alpha/bravo, so the TET5 would be 'in my way' when I want to type, unless I were to place my logi keyboard on my lap, which is not super convenient. I'm hoping a flexible tripod might be better for my use case - would appreciate if you could point me at it on Amazon or one just like yours, please? I can't really see myself moving the TET5 using a magnetic clip taped to my flight controls as it would be out of calibration all the time, yeah? Thanks, Mark.
Go to Amazon and search for gorilla tripod…or small tripod flexible legs…the selection is huge to suit any application.
Did the double sided tape ever stick to the Alpha flight controls top ? tried many tapes, after 1-2 day it is loose and tobii is moving, the plastic material of the Alpha flight controls doesn’t like sticky tapes, which one did you use Mark ?
Used 3M double sided (clear) tape. Stuck fast. Can’t get it off 😂
Just got my Toby in yesterday I have the same setup as you where do I get this new software I cannot get my Toby to calibrate never mind just found the link in the description below thank you
See link in pinned comment.
i'm just not very tech savy on this tobii thing. i can never get it to run on x-plane 11 or MSFS 2020.
This may help ruclips.net/video/a3Y4eySt3Yk/видео.htmlsi=I2SG2PQyEwe44JAb
all great information. The only question I have is where is the new calibration software download located? I can't seem to find it on the tobii website.
See pinned comment.
Waar kun je deze driver downloaden b.v.dank
Hi Marc, doesn’t your flight yoke block and disrupt the eye tracker when you turn it? It happens to me and I can’t seem to calibrate successfully when I mount it on top of my monitor. I sit lower than you. Maybe this new calibration software which allows more distance would work on a top monitor mounting spot?
No, I tested it. It works perfectly. You can pitch this mount up slightly if you need to by placing something under it. The new software should make a difference.
@@SimHangerFSsorry Mark, just to clarify, are your saying that the tobii still can't be mounted on top of the monitor?
@@xjrthirteen I haven't tried that but its an interesting question! Likely to impact eye tracking to some degree though!
Great channel Unlce!
Good morning I cannot find your calibration program. where can it be found?
Not sure what you’re looking for. If link to software see pinned comment for direct link
I can't seem to get mine to work as anything more than something to unlock the Pc. Mine says anything above 32" Screen won't work. Seriously, with as many gamers with 34UW screens, you'd think they'd have fixed that by now.
I am using mine on a 48'' monitor, no problems at all?
For some reason, mine says it will not work on that size screen, (43UW), it can't calibrate. I'll try the new software and see if it fixes it.
@@SimHangerFS
Would the tracker work on a 55"?
Pure coincidence, but I was only playing with this idea this afternoon and got some similar results to you but used a very high tech solution in the form of two lumps of blu tack. Next idea was a bar magnet on the top of my homebrew cockpit panel, but there was less adjustment in the vertical axis.
🤦♂for 40 squid i'll get my local to make me same one but encrusted with DIAMONDs ! 🤣
Nice❤😮😅
I guess I'm lucky in that the TET5 easily mounts to the lower edge of my 45" TV that I use for MSFS. However, it's still a bit further away from my eyes than recommended but has never presented any problems. I had thought of mounting it on top of my Logitech panels I have sited in a line on my desktop below the screen. It would be easy to make up a bracket to mount on the top of a panel. But, at £40, you're having a laugh Tobii!
I’ll just buy a clamp or 3d print something. $40 USD is absurd.
Nice....
Thank you again for your contribution to our knowledge and enjoyment, always enjoy your clear and concise explanations, Cheers
We can I get a tripod that supports the mounting bracket?
Not from Tobii, but the thread is a standard for a tripod. Get one via Amazon, wide choice available.
Thanks for the reply.
Here have some bent metal for $40 ....shameful
Hello, have you tried it in DCS world because it doesn't work for me?
All the best.
No I haven’t I’m afraid.
Hi, one question: did you make a Windows "Hello" login with the changed setup? When yes, does it work seemlessy?
Sorry, don’t understand the question.
Once you attached the tobii to the computer, Windows allows you to use tobii as biometric supported login. My concern is that a new calibration would affect the biometric login negativly
What’s the download called please?
See pinned comment.
Where can you get the alpha version you speak of in this video?
Tobii gaming…accessories…tripod
@SimHangerFS ok thanks I would not be buying the mount I'm only interested in the software addition
The Tobi Eye is over priced now this £40 for a metal bracket. not for me!
After a few days, the Tobii's location will be the drawer 😅
Has anyone found this software yet? I can find the tripod but no calibration software.
Found it. AND it was highlighted! D'oh.
Some feedback for Tobii. I installed the cal sw - the coloured position slider buttons move fully left when clicked on and won't stay anywhere else; the actual cal works OK; Tobii switches off when I exit the app; the rectangular slider will not stay in the postion I want. Thanks.