Sexualization And Body Image In Video Games | Tectone Reacts
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“I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a p entering a v, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness."
-George R.R. Martin
That's the reality of our society, just like how rape is considered worse than murder.
@@p-se9yf both are equally bad and inhumane. Idk how people think that murder is a "lesser evil" than rape. Our society is really fked up.
@@Lucydity_I don't think he talk about rape only but to write people who has normal consensual sex
@@p-se9yf Lets not get to real life scenarios. We are talking about fantasy stuff and shit that is not real.
yeah true i'd blink at least thrice
As a women I can say that in my experience I don't advertise that I'm a woman when playing video games. Depending on the game and the community you are interacting with being a known woman can be detrimental to your gaming experience so its better not to bring it up. I also lean more towards single player games so I don't have to risk these interactions to begin with. On another note when I went to college to get into game design the most gatekeeping/discrimination I experience were other women in the industry. Not saying this is the norm but it was one of the factors that made me change my career path.
just watched a video yesterday where a female gamer posted clips of her streaming Valorant, many male players, once she admited she's a girl, started calling her names, insulting her in a sexual way, and making advances towards her asking her to do sexual stuff. the audacity totally blew my mind as i've never played Valorant.
Same. In fact, my username here and everywhere online is intentionally misleading so men won't bother me. I don't advertise my gender in a game. Ever. Men can give anecdotal evidence of playing women and not getting harassed all they like. But it's happened to me enough that I have zero desire to experience it again. So, have your anime waifus if it keeps you from harassing women. I won't complain as long as there are enough options in a game that I can pull for an aesthetic I prefer.
This is why he felt the ratio was off. Most female gamers stick to single player titles or generally do not voice their gender cause the community is so toxic towards them.
Especially in Call of Duty and other FPS games
The amount of times I've heard incels screaming slurs or being genuinely creepy towards women in the party is quite disturbing
Fellow gamedev! I'll be honest; Women on women drama seems to be the largest issue for women in general, especially at work and competive enviroments.
I can totally understand what you mean in relation to telling people you're a woman, fiancee keeps running into weird ass people when we play Dota.
People will treat fiction as reality and reality as fiction and then get mad at you for understanding the difference
its just insecurity that's all i see hear. As i see other women who don't even give a damn about it.
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 exactly, completely agreed
@@ShuckleIIthey're coomers so it bothers them when you tell them the nikke girlies don't look like the average woman and that's detrimental. They just don't get it bc they'd rather die fapping than die being a decent human being
Many women with natural big breasts want a breast reduction because of the back pain. I wouldn't exactly call that lucky...
Reminds me about 1 of my friends that had a tumor that caused his groin to grow exponentially
doing research into larger than normal body parts you can see that most of the time it's a cancerous growth
that's the thing, women in videogames have no backpain at all, they could even run and do combat stunts in high heels and do it flawlessly, because videogames *aren't real , and don't try to be* for the most part
@@treasure9342 you are too occupied reading the comments of the most exagerated degenerate men to realize that men likes them in all shapes and sizes, not just ''ULTRA BIG MASSIVE HONKERS OOOOOOOO''
@@xLuis89x it’s more about how unhealthy it looks. The same reason obesity isn’t generally liked.
It depends, my ex wanted that cause she was huge. But she was like , she would do it after she had a kid. Some woman want it when they are too huge lol. Hoyo boobs are small in comparison. They are medium, I cannot call it bad propotions.
I was in an Art History class in college. The Classical era of art depicted nudity, and everyone was mostly ok with it because the people featured in the art are mostly representations of nonexistent characters.
Like, the best excuse for drawing your naked girlfriend is making them do a pose and say that it's a picture of Venus. Although, it is mostly for the male gaze, it was socially acceptable because Venus isn't a real person.
To be honest, we need people to separate fantasy from real life again. It's annoying seeing immature people taking sexualization in today's works of art too seriously. It ain't that deep, just accept the tits and don't show it to children, it's that simple.
How much invalidating copium are you on? Why do you even believe this obviously flawed video's pseudocriticism of video game sexism and it's opposition? Why do you automatically assume that the problem of hypersexuality isn't that it's repulsive (seriously how have you never considered this in your life, what's wrong with you) and is instead that it changes... something in some people's psyches? Why are you forcing tits on people, you would get the cops called on you and would go to jail, you talk about common sense but you have NONE.
yea that and nudity back then was just a normal thing in society peaseants would be bare assed if they didnt have any rags to cover, women in highclass are often depicted were see through sheer-like cloths, public bath houses, nudtiy everywhere in art. being naked was just normal then, and as society evolved we got more sheltered more sensitive social norms differ
Or show it to children. It's not like they haven't seen tits before lmao
@@Strip4Dreezy while we are a little sheltered in modern times, i would hardly consider it to be the only reason that opinions and practises have shifted when it comes to nudity. Frankly your own comment has a nugget of information that you overlook, advancement. In most nations, even a 3rd world one like mine, the standard of living is far beyond what it was in those days. People no longer typically have little to no rags to cover themselves to protect against dirt and the elements and knowledge of things such as health and hygiene have proliferated. Public bath houses? maybe in asia but currently in the west its non existent due to irrelevance, and sure, there was nudity in art but it was far from pornography ie not meant to titillate unlike say ecchi or hentai art though some rich individuals did commission art for that purpose and kept it private.
Nudity in classical art as far back as ancient greece was done as an embodiment of ideals of perfection and beauty. Greek and roman art would later be the basis for much of what was made in the renaissance and is part of why achievement in representing the body became a standard for measuring artistic genius in that era.
According to an exhibition called The Renaissance Nude (October 30, 2018-January 27, 2019) which tackled myths about nudity and art in that era among other things, the use of the nude in art, particularly religious art, was controversial during the Renaissance. Images of beautiful bodies can be highly sensual, which made some observers uncomfortable-then as much as no, eg. Fra Bartolommeo, a Dominican friar, scandalized a Florentine congregation by painting an altarpiece of a beautiful nude Saint Sebastian wearing only a transparent veil over his genitals. Women found it so alluring, it was said, that the priests deemed it safer for parishioners’ souls to remove it from the church.
Forgetting the pictures back then looked like actual people and had normal looking bodies. That's not what hypersexualization means.
I dont care about big bazongaas, i just hate those camera angles that focus on them like bro this is not integral to the scene 😭
Blame the gacha games for trying to always attaching parasocial simps no mater the gender.
Sexualization in video games probably saved a lot of people's lives unknowingly
Your parents should have raised you better . Typical American kids
@@runaway1635Nah because the devs made money with it and could make a living
My god this is funny on another level entirely.
This is kinda true for me
@@MiyuKawasaki That just means it ruined many people's lives too.
I think the only thing i dont like about sexualization is just when a character is just fanservice and acting “sexy” i mean can you give her a personality? Either way, im a girl and tatas are great
I think people forget that there are women who are also horndogs.
There are people of both sexes that are harder to cater to. If you think there aren't women drooling over male characters' physiques, then you're just imposing your own values onto others. Some parts of video games existing shouldn't matter if you aren't the target audience. I'll draw a parallel to a non-sexual aspect of video games for this:
I _hate_ horror aspects in video games. I get lightheaded, shakey, and (especially with gore) nauseous. I have never once called for people to stop making horror games or for people to stop putting gore in video games. Sure it would be nice if there were a toggle, and I hate it when gore is shoved into games that it doesn't need to be in, but I won't fault the developer or players for my inability to tolerate what they love. I find it sad that I can't enjoy or play the same games (like Phasmophobia or GTFO) as my friends, but it is not their fault that I can't handle horror. I don't think of people who tolerate or enjoy horror as odd, I just see that we see things differently.
I know not liking disproportionate body sizes or revealing clothing is a far cry from being on the verge of an anxiety or panic attack, but it's in the same general ballpark. I cannot control that I feel like vomiting when I see a reanimated corpse, just as some men and women can't control feeling disgust when they see a grossly unrealistic sexual depiction.
Trust me, there are a lot, and they only aim for guys more successful than them even, it's just that a great deal of woman don't have any accountability for their own actions and instead they want to be vindictive towards everyone else, other women included
Yeah I love dick but I love anime girls more. I don’t care about anime guys. Anime. Girls. Chefs kiss*
Yeah but the thing is, the way a barely dressed muscular man and a barely clothed big titty woman is portrayed in a video game are completely different. Its entirely catered towards men. The half naked men are catered to men (not women) and the half naked women are ALSO catered to men.
@@jojoman4223I call bullshit. Are you telling me that the half naked men on romance novel covers are for men to enjoy? Men aren’t the ones wanting that.
@@jojoman4223Not really, in fact a lot of men and women cater to women, some examples are Belial from GBF, or shoujou anime like sailor moon. Yuri on Ice is also a heavily popular yaoi show, most yaoi and yuri is typically catered towards women as well as the genre of “cute girls do cute things” like Is the Order a Rabbit
As a tall woman with a small chest, allow me to say a few things:
- Yes, large chested women exist, but
- No, their physique is rarely as disproportional as they are in video games (that is to have a super slim/fit character with large breasts is unrealistic because breasts just don’t really work like that without some sort of augmentation) and
- No, it is not problematic to idealize the male or female body
(Basically breast volume to surface area, overall body fat, genetics (obviously) and many other factors come into play when it comes to breast shape. A tall girl like myself has a “small” chest because there is simply more surface area, so everything flattens out more, the same goes for body fat. A petite girl would have larger looking breasts because the volume would have a larger impact on her frame (again, as would body fat)
Also, side note: Stelle from HSR literally made me cry the first time I played it seeing how incredible it felt to have a female MC in such a popular anime gacha game that has my EXACT physique (and ragged hair and tired eyes tbh), so I would say that variety and realism is also good because to see yourself represented in such a role is a magical feeling.
TL;DR It’s not a problem, but realism is good too. 🖤💛
Finally
Like they rlly think the anime girlies with GGG boobs having the smallest waists in existence look normal and is common
As someone who doesn’t like the unrealistic body proportions on men and women in video games, I just tend avoid those characters and games because I don’t want to be around that type of stuff. I don’t think people who enjoy those types of media should be shamed for it, unless your perception of REAL men and women are altered or defined by that media you consume..
you gotta avoid most entertainment then. There is a real why old statues in greece , roman and egypian cultures show perfect body propotions. It is something we have admired for centuries.
That's some first world country brainrot
You have a video of Boku no Hero academia, overwatch and Harley quinn.
All 3 of those have like top 10 most sexualized hyper "unachievable" body proportions females or males in them.
Deku is a 14 year old with the muscle development of someone that has been to the gym for 10 years. Overwatch has Widowmaker AND Brigette as being absolutely unrealistic.
Idk sounds like you're talking out of your ass right here.
@@djay00009seeing how western games are being made rn he will have options
@@djay00009 Nope, even Greek has body image problems.
Fun Fact, the reason male statues had smaller penises is because having a larger penis was seen as something negative so the statues regardless of the size of the men that sculptors were modeling after they would intentionally shrink the male penis because it was considered ideal while larger penises were considered vulgar and associated with demons.
The thing is that some men are completely degenerates who have no sense of reality, the amount of times me just speaking has led to people completely changing how they treat me. They will immediately sexualise you and ask the most uncomfortable questions just because of my gender. Do not get me started on cosplaying, this goes for both men and women, me and my brother cosplay together a lot and visit cons and just because we are dressed as anime characters, some people outright treat us as they would the real character. The fact they are so delusional and stuck in their little online world is genuinely disturbing. My brother literally got stopped by women when he cosplayed gojo just for them to sexualise him straight to his face, same thing happened to me when I was cosplaying yoimiya. Just because you can differentiate between reality and the internet, doesn’t mean others do.
Oh look, someone understand the dangers of hypersexuality. Ah, it had to be a victim, of course no one that could help would understand it. Just 5 likes? Humanity is absolutely doomed, that is crazy.
Oh god the cosplay cons :(
@@ShuckleII I'll counter with an example, Jack Gleeson, the actor that plays Geoffery in game of thrones was harassed in real life because people thought he really was like Geoffery.
BUT, this is the insane minority doing things like this. There was a documentary about a radio station recently on TV, they had about 300 000 listeners on average. When they had a really divisive topic they'd usually have their call in lines nearly maxed out.
So how many of those 300 000 called in? 10 000? 1000? No, usually between 8 - 10 people, those are the people you'll hear speaking up, the other 99% are perfectly fine and can separate fiction from reality.
So did things get better or worse since say.. the 1900s? Well, murder is down, r4p3 is down, domestic violence is down. So it's hard to argue that the current climate is making things worse.
I don't think it's about being unrealistic. It is just that most women do not look like that. Of course women like that exist but not as many. I would compare it to a guy being 6 foot and having six pack. Men like that exist right? But not most. Even women with big chest do not usually have slim waist for instance. Sexualization goes both ways, however in video games, I feel like you can notice it more because the male audience puts more importance to it.
i agree with you fully
Thank you 🙌💯 I was hoping to find this comment because I could not word it this succinctly lol
yeah you are part of the problem.
As a woman, me and all the female friends I have play video games. I don’t know any female friend in my life that doesn’t play video games of some form or another. The only woman I know personally that doesn’t like video games at all is my sister 😂
I would say that some women cannot avoid belly fat due to having medical conditions. I have pcos and even at a normal body weight for my height and age. I still had a larger belly. It is embarrassing. Yet now I know I can’t do much about it. Only just stick to an active lifestyle
Not to mention every single woman has a small belly BC IT'S YOUR OVARIES
God it's frustrating
I LOVE how Tectone brought up clothes "Decorating your body" cause its facts
The thing I will never understand is why people complain about realism. If you want real why are you playing games? People play games to escape from reality, and all some people can do is complain that it's not. It's laughable at times
I think it’s ok for people to be uncomfortable by unrealistic proportions.
@@shslborger6895yes true but to attack others because of it
@@xMckingwillI didn’t say doing that was okay. Just the fact that people are allowed to not enjoy it
@@shslborger6895 i know lol
those ''players'' only think about realism when it's something they don't like, *BUT* men actually love, that's it
What's wrong with fulfilling a human's primal instinct WITH a literal form of ENTERTAINMENT
because if its too much its cringe and unethical
@@tacemiko3849Nah its people like you who pretend that they are better than most people that are cringe and unethical.
@@hanbytee3903pretty sure it was a sarcastic statement
The fact that you think that is everything that is wrong with todays society.
@@hanbytee3903ok so saying that somethings is wrong when it is wrong is "pretending to be better" and "cringe" and "unethical"?
I don’t think sexualisation in media leads to negative behaviours, I think people who already have those behaviours tend to be attracted to the video games where sexualisation and objectification happen. Those people then ruin the reputation of the entire sector because of their pre-existing behaviours, and then pass on those beliefs through the sector as well. My little cousin for example, he wasn’t a problem until he started playing co-op and multiplayer games, he learned a certain behaviour set from the people he played with and it became his norm. The video game didn’t make him like that, the bad people playing it did. If it was the video game that changed his behaviour then he’d be a murderer and violent too, but he’s neither of those, he’s just rude.
Ultimately, whether the sexualization of characters and body image in video games is a problem is a matter of individual opinion. There are valid arguments on both sides of the debate, and the impact of such content likely varies depending on individual factors. However, it is important to be aware of the potential risks and to encourage critical thinking about the messages and representations presented in video games.
@@treasure9342 when did raiden and ayaka got sexualized in the story?
@@treasure9342 bruh stop watching too much porn, there is literally zero sexualization in game, go outside irl and get some fresh air.
@@treasure9342 but those ayaka and raiden examples are not about sexualization, it's about the game doing a pretty shitty job with the exposition and caracterization of their characters, Eula is way more sexy than both and when doing her story you get to know about her, her past and her family and how it affects her everyday life.
also kokomi was done horrendously bad, a master strategist who did pretty much nothing noteworthy shown to the player, but again, it's not a matter of sexualization but that the developers not knowing how to display the caracterization of their characters well
@@treasure9342 Please enlighten me how she was in the way you describe it. Because that so called date you are referring to is her going out experiencing everything she has missed out while being in her own literal world.
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I disagree with the statement that Raiden and Ayaka story quests were simply "dates" that ruined their character development. While both quests do have elements of lighthearted interaction and exploration, they also delve deeper into their individual struggles and motivations.
In raiden case: Dealing with Eternity, Her story quest explores the consequences of her pursuit of Eternity and the Vision Hunt Decree. We see her grapple with the pain and loss her actions have caused, and ultimately witness a shift in her perspective.
In ayaka case: Duty vs. Desire, Ayaka story quest showcases her internal conflict between her duty to the Kamisato Clan and her personal desires. We see her struggle with the weight of responsibility and her longing for freedom. Ayaka's decision to dance in public represents a break from tradition and a step towards embracing her individuality. This shows her courage and willingness to challenge societal expectations.
As a big chested bisexual woman, I can say that I am also the target audience for these video games. I have a weakness for collecting anime waifus. Ive also seemed to hit the small demographic of wanting to be a solo girl game dev, but its so hard to do it all. Haven't finished nearly what I would like to yet.
I think that as long as you grew up hanging out with girls and having a great relationship with your mom, I think guys will be okay. Porn addiction is a very real thing and so is overt objectification, but the source of that is the same reason that we have when it comes to homophobia, misogyny, and incel behavior that people don't touch grass enough and don't interact with real people.
Facts. I'll use nikke as an example. People who are judgemental can only talk about the jiggles. Men in healthy relationships as well as women play that game too.
I mean almost all male serial killers were raised by single mothers and were super close to them…
@MintBerryCrunch that's the issue going to the other extreme.
@@Majin_Fuuwhy would you play that game while in a relationship 💀 it's not "unhealthy" that's literally like watching p0rn while in a relationship.
Why would you get hard or watch other people being overly sexualized when you have your partner?
while i like big boobs, what i dont like are boobs that are so big that they look unnatural and end up looking like lumps of meat.
My girlfriend has boobs that are bigger than my head, but then turn around and say why does that character has big boobs smh 🤦
fictional characters have fictional ages that someone who drew them came up with. @@Willhebonkyainthechocolatefact
@Willhebonkyainthechocolatefact it doesn't matter because people only complain when its a fictional character
it's because that fictional character is attracting more attention than her, women are even jelous of fictional stuff, lol
@@Willhebonkyainthechocolatefact It's fiction, who the fk cares? also you think the game having mostly femboys as ''male characters'' is also realistic? 😂
As a woman, I hide the fact I play video games in public and only let my close friends know I play them. A LOT of girls are either given the "you like COD? Alright name every COD character or you're a e-girl liar" or "insert random s3xual comment here" from what Ive heard talking with other female gamers it seems to happen pretty often. I think its 54-46 seems totally possible. Women dont feel very welcome in gaming spaces, but also you can see girls who are comfortable being open about gaming on twitch, vtubers and non vtubers alike.
I will inform all of you about an awesome fact, the moment you get atention in a game is more likely to get sht on from shtheads playing the game.
Being a girl is a fact one thing that gets atention, but hey i did an experiment, i played 10 games of League of legends:
Saying at the start of the game "have a great day everyone have a nice game" 5/10 games o got flamed and insulted for all the game for everything, virgin loooser those type of comments.
10 games more playing as a black character saying the same but talking more like them, 6/10 games they flamed me and by no one suprise they call me some racist stuff.
10 more games, playing a "e-girl popular" character and talking more femenine + uwu type of stuff bringing atention to me like the lasts experiments , like 5/10 games i got flammed and by no one suprise, i got some "go to the kitchen" / girl insults.
As a women you get more atention, good or bad, but for men people doesnt give a fk about you, so dont feel that bad and other women are in your side, men/women arent in mine :D
Either way, a big hug to you, because no one deserves to be treated badly ^^
Hey, if you hate sexualization in video games that's completely understandable. But if go the game journalist double standard route that hate female sexualization and praise male sexualization then thats where you have to start a problem.
At the end of the day people need to realize that video games and real life are 2 seperate things.
Double standards in woke media? Unthinkable.
For your first point, shots fired. It's not even sexualization that's the problem though, it's hypersexualization. Why does everybody have black and white thinking, get some IQ please.
For your second point, you're just believing lies. Why do you assume that the problem with hypersexualization isn't that it's uncomfortable and is instead some abstract brain thing you're NOT EVEN WILLING TO EXPLAIN. It's unbelievable that people are okay with being BLASTED ALL DAY with hypersexuality and hyperviolence and hypernarcissism, etc. It's blatantly insane.
@@ShuckleII If depictions of sexuality make some people uncomfortable then GOOD. It shows that it was simply not made for them. Everyone is free to have different tastes. It is rather hyprnarcissistic to demand all media cater to them. The only ones who do that are religious nutjobs, and I can only suppose you are one, or if not, at least in something cult-like, like (trans-exclusionary) radical feminism. Also, you realize that "get some IQ please" discriminates against people of lesser development, so that's quite a bigoted thing to say.
But most people aren‘t able to separate fiction from reality. That‘s why Japan‘s population is declining, and that‘s why a lot of men who are devoted to their anime girls don‘t have gfs. It‘s the same thing with p**n, and you‘ve heard a lot about people‘s mentalities getting better after they stopped being addicted to it..
Enjoying spicy art / fics / … of certain characters from time to time is fine, just don‘t devote your entire life to it and don‘t put the same expectations on real humans, because most of the stuff you see online is unrealistic.
@@aqvanii I think the cause and effect is backwards. Anime is not the cause, something else is, it's just what people turn to when they don't have relationships. Also not everyone into anime is without relationships, stereotypes aside.
My gf was bullied around middle school because she developed a lot pretty early, which made her hide her body in general. Even now, d cup bras fit too tight for her.
Lately with my help she started owning clothes that didn't had a turtle neck or big jackets, but she was still too embarrased to fell fully confortable. She plays Hoyoverse games with me, Honkai Impact and Starrail, and I showed her the first trailer of NNN. She kept starting at Nicole with amazement. About a month after it she wore something with cleavage in public for the first time.
Now that she found out they covered up and reduced Nicole's chest, while she wasn't devastated or anything, she did said that she was dissapointed, in the industry, and in the people who supported it saying it wasn't natural/normal.
I don't mind it but I've found it going overboard sometimes to the point it's awkward(for me at least),I legit find it kinda disturbing,y'know when there's more sexualization then actual gameplay and welp that's my take on it
Bayonetta in Nikke should be the next cross-over event 😏
Sexualisation of characters in my opinion is ok as long as that’s not the only thing that there is to them. I’m a woman and I think female characters in sexualised outfits are badass if they do badass shit and have badass personalities to go with it. Specially villains.
Now if a character has a sexualised outfit and the only thing they do is dote on men be there to be the bud of the joke by the male characters or just the love interest then I hate it.
Because sexualisation can both be a form of either empowerment or degradation depending on the circumstances.
Example: if a fucking goddess descended on earth and could shatter all our souls and not even man’s most descriptive weapon could touch her hair who cares that she’s wearing nothing but a thong? She’s above everyone.
Now if let’s say a story got a r*ape victim or a very naive girl that’s been shown that can be manipulated easily or is very innocent and that people can take advantage of them easily then yes the sexualisation makes. You feel like a piece of shit
sexist lmao
The most important thing in my opinion, is to understand the difference between fiction and real life. Goes for both genders too, we play games for entertainment/to have a nice time.
I agree! It really depends on the context and circumstances of the character. Not all fan service is bad but not all fan service is good either.
it's about power. everything is about sex to men, except sex it self, which it's about power.
@dian277 It's about money, all of it. A lot of people, the majority being males, likes women in said outfits. Why wouldn't people take advantage of this and make for instance summer skins for characters?
dude your take on makeup and how using it to make a "look" rather then looking natural SO BASED OML
Tectone genuinely has one of the best mentalities a person can have. So much respect for this man. Can't even go into enough detail, too much to explain, but I genuinely believed this is the level of awareness people should strive for 👌
He sure has that ssniperwolf mentality with how much he reacts to shit.
@@Lyr0n Hey man. At least Tectone pauses the video and gives his based commentary. Unlike, y'know...
@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69 still dosnt help the fact that he reacts like half of the Damn time, and uploads it, every, single, time. Wanna know someone who reacts and takes clips from his stream if he’s gonna make a video about it? Then talks in a video about what he reacted to? Penguinz0. Streams, reacts, makes a video with a few bits from his stream where he reacted. Tectone lets the entire video play, provides minimal input, and uploads a stream highlight of someone else’s video.
@@Lyr0n Well it's really how you define reaction, but I think tectone's facial reactions themselves were good enough for me to watch this 1 hour video lol.
Most of the people i know that play video games ARE women, though they often don't display it on their clothing since a lot of people calm down on that as they get older. Honestly it's more fun finding friends in online gaming content than it is trying to make friends irl by seeing if random people you meet share interests. It can be real hit or miss, and the misses are awkward as hell
I can say this when it comes to women's tastes in male characters in general as a transman. Again, IN GENERAL there are two things you can do. Make him super handsome and relatively well built in good looking clothes or make a femboy. All women loves a good femboy.
Not a native speaking here, feel free to correct any spelling mistakes!
I think this subject is kinda complicated to deal with...
I mean About Nicole in ZZZ, I think she's a okay character, for what they are advertising... I see her breasts more like a device for the comedy they decided that she would do... You can think it's silly, I do; it's pretty ridiculous, but that's okay, because that's the whole vibe the game is selling since day one that is "don't being so serious although having a more mature target audience."
HOWEVER, what some people, that we tend to call "justice warriors", don't have any talking skills to politely say and make their point is that: The problem is not a character having "big boobs" the problem might be when the "big boobs" might have a character. As I said above IT'S OKAY HAVING NICOLE BEING THAT SEXUALIZED FOR THE JOKE but most people are so sick of the culture of sexualization that you can track back like... to Lara Croft and Samus(or even older games) They sometimes are just making girls being attractive by their looks, boobs, buts and everything EXCEPT for their personality(I know that might sound cringe) but the effect that might do is that we end up being so used to see a woman as a sexual object, that sometimes, as Teccy said, some men can't deal with women like human beings... and that affects us men, but also affects A LOT the women too.
Also, I do understand the whole argument of "Do the change you wanna see in the world" but just going to "point zero" and develop this kind of culture in games, it's not that simple for a indie company, we can totally achieve that, but... How long it's going to take to build up a culture to have a majority of "healthy" characters in games? it's like buying this fight from those big companies just doing games it's not simple and we could have more girls in gamer community if we just could ask the companies to do this minimum of putting more effort constructing appealing female characters by their personality, story, actions and impact into the plot than putting effort to make a girl that is solely physically pleasing for men.
But yeah, I get it, I'm more like into some Leftish kind of thinking, And even i admit some of those people are just TOO OVER trying to be a hero, so doing that, when they start a conversation they already think you are inferior because you are "objectively wrong" that sucks I know. That's not what I'm trying to do here, I just thinks this should really be discussed.
So, Summarizing everything I've have said: I think characters having big boobs are okay... I think having characters that the point of them is to have big boobs MIGHT be okay... if this wasn't a culture to only sexualize girls in fiction without giving them a proper soul and making a character that the only function is to make men have an erection.
johntectone back at it again 10/10
love me a sexualised anime man they’ll never understand me
they will never understand because they are not the target audience, in fact, they are the opposite of the target audience 😂
@@xLuis89x right 😭 people outside the shoujo genre wondering why all the men r pretty and have all these colourful effects and zoom ins and bagging on them when it’s made for people like MEEEEE. like, there’s something for everyone you don’t have to watch the show that likes to show you titties or ass just watch something else. there’s so much to choose from why hate watch when you could be a more bearable human being and watch what you can enjoy?
@@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286 exactly, it's annoying when those people say they ''don't care'' about it, but advocate for it to be removed or changed just to cater to them, instead of playing / watching something else, they are such entitled assholes, let people enjoy their stuff, nothing has to be shoehorned to fit their specific needs.
In fact whenever developers or the people making media and entertainment decide to cater to said individuals, the final product ends up being something that the fans now hate but also the haters will still not buy it/ play it, so we end up with everyone being displeased with the game now, lol.
and all of that just because the haters weren't interested in it to begin with, but gotta get that ego spike from thinking the word centers around them and only them.
Clicked for the thumbnail. Stayed for the content.
Holy shit! Thanks for watching. Epic thumbnail... I'm a little disturbed at how much overlap I have with your view makeup. 😂
The thumbnail goes crazy I can’t lie.
The male/female split makes sense in my mind once you account for all that goes into that number. As a dude you can just play whatever, whenever and you're vibing. For women, if you count single player, party and mobile gamers that's probably a good chunk. Then you have gals that like games with limited multiplayer (Animal Crossing) or games that don't rely on voice communication very heavily. Then you have gals that just wanna game in peace. So they either don't speak or have their own inside group.
I also imagine that data is pretty open ended. They ask if you're a gamer/play video games and note it down. We, just like any other group, do have pockets of elitists and gatekeepers who ruin and discourage open enthusiasts. I'm sure we all know or have seen the "You're not a gamer you just play X Y Z" type of people. So without them and all the other limiting factors I would imagine the numbers come quite a bit closer.
I agree as a woman who put in roughly 200 hours into animal crossing within the first month of release LOL
A lot of my female friends play games - they just don't really involve themselves with the gaming community and play mostly solo stuff so you wouldn't really think they were gamers
Soldier 76 is litterally Captain America. . . Super soldier experiments and all excluding the timeskip (Avatar: Last airbender moment)
The game you wanted to play at 104:54 is Called Code Vein.
You can make your own waifu protag in the game
That was a fun stream last night.😎
This reminded me of the time where people were hating on a character skin in Azur Lane to the point where they said the creator must be a degenerate who must have never talked/touched a lady only to find out the creator of Azur Lane is a girl and she loves and approved these characters in the game 😂
Why are these complaining women projecting their self hate?
Nekopara (htai game) ‘s artist is Sayori, a women and she absolutely loves the game and the characters and draws every *scene*
This just in. Women are people too and, as such, are capable of being horny as well. This is something these people can't understand. Go to your local anime convention most of the artists selling lewd/ecchi fanart are Women who drew the stuff themselves. And they will happily nerd out over a character with you if you strike up a conversation while buying stuff from them.
This video is amazing, you should check out the original video there is also a part 2 to this video and that too is amazing.
There is very much ways to do make up just for yourself. Make up can be as much an art form as a lot of other things. I think honestly the more bold make-up looks are the more likely they are just for the person wearing them.
This is because socially acceptable make-up tends to be stuff that is pretty intricate but looks like it's not a lot of product. If you use bold colors you often get comments too about how it's not attractive.
I just watched this video on my recommended. this video is going huge
Hoyo actually successfully cooked male characters that women like.
Regarding 1:20. Bro, Kiss x Sis. I remember going down the rabbit hole of harems, all kinds of ecchi animes in 2007-2010 (and also being impressed by Monster) . Good shit like To Love Ru (never liked High School DxD btw). And then i ran into KxS. Borderline hentai yet it had ecchi tags only. Fun thing i never watched any hentai and KxS was closest thing to it so it became memorable. I still remember it clearly.
No muscular men with beards tho
Kiss x sis is such a classic, terrible but nostalgic, one of the first anime i remember watching on youtube when you would have those videos that had it playing in a corner with some shitty background image, usually some sort of nightime picture with animated stars and shit.
@@EyesDontCryI remember on yt my first introduction to the tsundere archetype was shogo no shana. Man, I miss anime youtube back then.
You said everything, Teggy. These people treat games like promotional/educational tools when its about women bodies. I blame gaming review sites that have pushed this agenda for years, it gets them clicks somehow. Gamers need to learn to stop giving attention to them. Never click on a game review article that criticizes games about these things. They usually put that criticism right there on headline just to bait your clicks.
Listening to media outlets in general is bad, making your own opinion about said game is better
Why do you even care about review sites......................................
@@ShuckleII I don't care and never use them but they are still super popular, you like it or not.
this felt like an asmon video, I like this from tectone gjgj♥
Wakey Wakey Hour and a half upload time!
On behalf of the rest of that 40+ percent of female gamers I just wanna say - those numbers sound right to me. We are out here, we just don't always feel welcome so we don't always make ourselves known. For example, I really tried to learn FPS games back in HS and couldn't play online bc once they found out I was a girl they would NOT interact with me. They used me as bait, left me behind and offered no help or sense of teamwork. So now I don't play any shooter games or coop at all, I stick to single player only or mobile games. I've been an anime fan since I was 7, even have a Naruto tattoo, but it's just so hard to feel welcome in certain circles when it comes to the gaming side of the community. This was a problem 10+ years ago when COD first became big and its still a problem now. Just my perspective.. but trust me Teccy we are out here.
Dang, What is with fps that people can't act normal in.
@@spiderace7994 I really wish I knew bc I actually enjoy some of them and wish I could play online to get better bc split screen is a nightmare. Personally I find its the guys who are still teens or who don't game with girls in general but its still not an excuse
@@spiderace7994 It simple. Men are competetive from nature and lets be honest 90% women in FPS sucks so thats why they dont interact or use them as baits. Of course there is the minority of garbage men who are horny and have inpropriate reminders.
And also its a men dominated space,Woman wont be easily accepted here even if she is good, its same thing like white dude wont be easily accepted in black neighborhood. Its a tribal mentality and the more women will fight against it the more they become hated enemy for those men. All this complains about sexualization,toxicity,hurt feelings and constant nagging wont make it better, thats the reason why men dont want to associate with women nowadays (and not just gaming space).
Solution for women? The only way is to make your own team with your friends.
Let’s keep I mind that 2Bs ass saved a company.
Billy Talent! oh gosh didn't heard this Red Flag for years! thanks Teccy :D also true!
ALL of my female friends and pals play games, from Sims to CoD, from WoW to Cyberpunk etc. We usually not advertise it so much as males would.
Is really that hard to understand that most developers are men and most men like nice looking womans? So they target us? Why does people need to make it about them and make a cancel agenda about sexualization?
I feel like the ppl who complain about big boobs(mainly the guys) are the ones who secretly like it but when ppl are around they feel the need to say otherwise so they don’t come off as a “Perv” dawg we know you don’t care😭
I see that you have upgraded the thumbnail my good sir.🧐
56:48 damn that took me back. That song is a banger. First heard it in "Burnout Legends"
embrace the hot mommies
For an 8 percent body fat back in high school when my metabolism was like a nuclear reactor I still had to work out 8 hours a day, which was what was asked of me while I was in the football workout program our coaches set for us. I had a dirty bulk because I legit had to eat anything and everything I possibly could just not to be regularly exhausted and to replenish what I used carb wise. But it is not sustainable at all and I wouldn't ever recommend going that route because even me doing it naturally I have so much issues with arthritis already and am not even 30. Just be healthy and move a bit and be happy. But most importantly don't impose real life standards on what are essentially charactatures and don't look to charactatures for real life standards. They will never mix.
Tectone spitting straight facts in this video.
Teccy, love these little talks we have occasionally. Plese never stop speaking from the heart.
10:24 wtf no away that girl is real
30:23 it is true imo. I don’t really show that I play games and I don’t go to conventions etc but still most of my female collègues/friends turn out to be gamers. Like really haha I can hardly think of a female friend not playing games and then I would need to ask them since I’m not sure.
Reading title,
Tectone's 1+ hour video essay,
audibly wtf,
oooh react stream
please upload more longer videos. its good.
I just want to point out that Tectone did a great take on makeup and the whole: I don't wear it for others. That shit made me so frustrated when I first found out about it. Now about sexualization in games, for real as long as you don't go crazy or unable to distinguish reality and fiction then there's literally no harm done with it, both for men and women, sometimes most of the issues that he pointed in the video could be solved with a simply: "I know this isn't real and I won't be expecting this in my partner in real life." The real problem lies in that same own lack of judgment that some, ehem "feminists" have unable to recognize fiction or in a simple manner are insecure about their own physique, see a "better" physique on anime/videogame women, then cry about it online and that's where we are at now.
Fun fact: the Head of character design of Nikke is a female. Its on the perspectives of each person and Underlying the influences around gamers. Who are we to judge of the point of preference that love the game they play..
I really like teccy actually watched this video
Really love to see teccy opinion
Hey teccy, I know you probably won't see this or if you already seen it and is waiting to upload your react on it but you should really watch "The Toxic World of Genshin Impact" because you're featured in it for a short segment but in a good way. Might spring up some bad memories but its definitely worth the watch and seeing your react
That video was really amazing. There were even some comments on that video shitting on Tectone and blaming him for the harassment and bullying of the Kokomi VA, which is stupid. What’s even worse is seeing some comments trying to make excuses/downplaying the stupidity of the Genshin community.
this video just motivates me to study game design so i can join the game-development industry and sexualize men and achieve equality in my own terms
Plz do, as a guy I would want more games women could enjoy sexualization. I truly believe why there isn't a lot already is because devs choose the male demographic because it's easier and that some devs don't know how to cater to the female demographic.
men are sexualized all the time, the thing is that female sexualization for men looks almost entierly different than male sexualization for females
I think that the reason most men don't talk about unrealistic standards for men in videogames is for one reason: most men think if they worked out they could look like the men in videogames. Obviously not the case, but they look at these men and think, "yeah, that could be me."
Meanwhile, breast size is something completely out of women's control. Not saying there aren't women with large breasts, but when EVERY woman in games looks the same, you start to notice.
It's also that oversexulization of men, while still not a great thing, just doesn't affect men the same way it does women societally. Good take
Sure, but then when you have some female characters with smaller breasts or petit builds some people jump out of their bubbles saying that they are pedo-bait... so there is that too.
I think it's less that men think "I could look like that" and more that women are subjected to substantially higher beauty standards than men and this is compounded by the fact that a lot of female characters in media are either terribly written or specifically written for men in mind.
If you dig a little deeper into some real life examples, take a look at the difference in how men and women are complicated. People don't care that much about your average man's appearance and being complemented is considered a very rare occasion. Whereas for women, its not rare for "complements" to be unwanted advances or straight up sexual harassment.
just work out your tits to make them bigger /s
@@adriansanmartin5773you ignore that kind of moron. just because someone cries at something doesn't mean whatever they spew matters.
This is an amazing video so based !!!! ❤❤❤❤
Yeah the world is RnG I've been telling everyone that thank you for this tectone !!!!
52:30 If it were that easy - most, and I really mean, 95% of men, dont know what women without makeup look like actually. They misidentify makeup as non-makeup looks, because there is a whole range between full on cake make up, and faint makeup that is specifically made to look like you're not wearing any.
To be fair, we women did this to ourselves, trying to fool everyone that we're not wearing makeup while actually always wearing make up. Also, for the longest I thought women had acne because of makeup, now that I am getting older, never having worn makeup in my life, I can assure you, women have acne because of hormones and their cyncle, not because of makeup (altho it will help, if you dont wash your makeup off). For the longest I've been on hormonal birthcontrol, never had any breakouts. I've been off birthcontrol for 3 years now, and I look like a fucking teenager.
As a woman, i don't really mind sexualization of women. I kinda like it, then again I'm not straight lol.
As a man, I don't really mind sexualization of women. I kinda like it, then again I'm straight lol
BASED
As a man, I don't really mind sexualization of women, and men, I kinda like it, then again I'm straight, lol
@@xLuis89x you are gay asf bro don't slip in sexualization of women AND men and say you are straight
Also making me feel sick that there r some feminists were shaming Tectone for liking the original design of the character. Like men can't have preference and if men have preference then he is a misogynist.
most feminists nowdays are mentally ill, not surprising.
@@WillhebonkyainthechocolatefactWith Nicole the size in of itself is not the problem. It's the fact that she was censored. If she started out with the current design there would be no problems.
@@user-er1ue6ui8dNicole's censorship was moreso a CCP thing than a feminism thing though. It drives me nuts when people conflate the two when the censorship on the CCP's behalf is sexist and conservative by nature.
@@missdreavus649 Do you really think that CCP would bother to censor some fictional characters in a video game? The censorship is clearly a result of mass reporting by feminists and mihoyo haters.
@@missdreavus649 Yes the change has nothing to do with feminists. However when people were reacting and complaining about the changes there were plenty of people calling anyone who had a problem "misogynistic" or "coomers" and some going as far as to call censorship a good thing.
Regarding the game at 1:04:49 that you said "I don't know what game this is but I want to play it" the name of the game is Code Vein, it's Namco Bandai's own attempt at a Souls like game (so Namco developed it, not Fromsoftware). It's basically Anime style Souls game. It also has one of if not the best character creators for an anime game out there right now and you will love the npc female characters lol (look up Code Vein and Io and you'll be hooked in easily).
It's a fun game but most Souls fans do stat it feels a bit more floaty/lacking the feeling of 'impact' (as in when you hit enemies the sounds/animations/'feel' feel like a heavy weapon hitting an enemy...they might use another word for it too i guess).
It also allows you to play the entire game with 1 npc ally (you can go alone if you want) where the main advantage to that is that you can have them use half of their HP to revive you or vice versa if you're lacking healing...the AI isn't really that amazing thougy so they're more there for a free revive/just to take their HP when needed and going solo is definitely what's considered the classic Soul experience. You can also go 2 player co-op where the same mechanics for reviving using your friend's HP applies, there's no PVP mode though.
Biggest difference between it and most other Souls games is like most jrpgs the story's a bit more characters focused with it having required cutscenes (all characters have their own personalities) rather than lore centric (reading in game books/listening to easily missable npc dialogue like you see in most Fromsoftware games).
Happy early birthday tectone
I feel like people actually froget that fit/athletic girls do actually exist, and girl excersice a lot she is in close proximity of whats presented in game. Its just top of the food chain that for some reason average looking people get way too offended by, maybe because they are too lazy to move their fat asses off couch and do some lifting themselves. Just maybe.
the thing that kinda throws me off in these games when it obviously sees me as a mindless, useless coomer. It feels so much more respectfull when we as the mc or whatever medium the game decides on are not on a pedestal.
NANI? A NON-COOMER GUY? SELF-RESPECTING TOO?!
@@ShuckleII I am not a dude, so maybe my perspective is different idk. I hope its like this for everyone else.
Yeah I tried playing Nikke, PGR... And those games are a little too much. I like having an active MC to project, but the level of affection for effort is way off.
What I mean is, I like being friendly. I disliked being overly desired for very little effort. Drags me right out of the experience.
tectone needs to review the snowbreak trailer LOL that's be some content to farm
The Abs take isn't particulary right, but being buff in general is bunch of hard work.
I recall one thing a good friend of mine once told me : "You do know that it's not only guys who like to look at women in video games right ? We as women can also appreciate and fap (she didn't use that word but youtube been deleting all my comments lately) to those women as much as guys do".
How much narcissism do you need to immediately defend hypersexuality instead of BBEGIN TO PROCCESS THHE POTENTTIAL CONNSEQUENCES OF HHYPERSEXUALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII **normie has stopped responding**
@@treasure9342 To be fair they edited their comment so maybe they added the normie part at the end. Cause sarcasm doesn't translate well when you're not looking for it but reading it whole I understood the joke they were making.
whole vid was Based
that's the reason why I'd always choose the skinny character in MMORPGs. to better resonate with em.
I think, both male and female characters deserve to have slooty bikini armor. Freedum
Teccy saying women with clothes on is hotter is so based
HAHAHAHAA I agree with Tectone, big chest is ALWAYS better than abs at ANY DAY. I'm so glad you feel that way XD Love your takes, Tectone!
I cant imagine someone not knowing Schwarzenegger was on gear, he was there lookin more muscular than superman
It's really important to consider when comparing unrealistically sexy women to unrealistically jacked men, that both of those fantasies are male oriented, the women are fantasized to be sexually appealing to men and the men are fantasized to be what men think are powerful and cool. If you look at what hot and cool women and men look like in content created specifically for women, it doesn't look the same cause our perspectives are different.
What are you talking about. Erotic novels for women always have jacked dudes on the cover. Get outta here with that bullshit
Please play nikke again!!!! It would be a great birthday gift for me to see you play nikke !!! Trust me you will love nikke !!!
there is a 2nd part you could watch if you want
I don't think there's anything wrong with anime sexy women. People just need to have self-control and understand the difference between fiction and reality. Stop pointing fingers at developers for your own problems lol
The only thing I have a problem with is that- IF YOU GUYS CAN HAVE HOT SEXY DOMMY MOMMIES THEN PLEASE LET US GIRLS HAVE SOME HOT SEXY MALE IKEMEN! Unfortunately, so many games are out there with just female characters and the ones that do have male characters.... they're not that hot! And the games with only guys... they're boring dating games. LIKE- I LIKE HOT GUYS BUT I DONT WANNA DATE 'EM!
that's why i love genshin and hsr so much- equal attention (almost equal) to both girls and men.
Game devs should start realizing that girls are honri af too
It's not like we're not letting you, you know...
But hot girls are universaly praised by both genders. Not equaly, but everyone likes hot girls to some extent. So its just more safe option to bet on for devs.
You DID notice that modern western games all have super sexy men, while all women are uglified and barely have breasts, right? Nobody bats an eyelid at sexualization of males, but raise a shitshow over a female having a nice body, even if completely clothed. Heck, they nerfed Nicoles breasts in Zenless, but when Epic reduced Solid Snake's rear end in Fortnite the games journalists were all in uproar.
Tell that to the so called feminists that sound like they just came out of church and their moralism. Because apparently those are the only women that western developers (most of them at least) consider when they create their games or at the very least those are the women's opinions used as an excuse for their character designs.
It all depends on your taste. We have plenty of male characters in gacha games. Also it's way easier to draw attractive female characters than male characters in the anime artstyle.
Try otome then. Only sexy guys, barely any women.
I am sorry if you are getting mad because GUYS got abs and look cool in games and girls being sexual in games they need help💀
I've always believed the physical appearances in video games were not a goal, just an attractive thing to look at while you entertain yourself
0:00 kafka's playing sealed vessel in violin? W
As someone with large assets sexualization bothers me kinda but not really. Like I don’t look at a character with big boobs and go “🤬” however in all media women are sexualized, real women. I myself have been sexualized since I was around 12, school was ridiculous for me. I don’t mind the sexualization of game characters but I feel it’s one sided because video games are typically made for men. I wanna see man titty, I’m tired of all the women, if you sexualize a character then the men better be like that too. It always irritated me in games where a man will be wearing tactical gear and his female companion is wearing like booty shorts and a crop top where you can see every crevice of her body. But that’s why BG3 is so great, you can put a skimpy outfit on a male or female companion
Its sort of like a snake eating its own tail here
More men play games - games cater to men - drives women away from games - more men play games
Its hard because the way to even things out is by showing that women are an equally profitable market for devs to target, but the data doesn't support that so devs don't do it, and because devs don't do it, women don't play those games and hence the data keeps reflecting that its not profitable to cater to women.
Its very cyclical but i think its improving, albeit rather slowly but hopefully games like baldurs gate continue to be popular where we combine nerdier games that generally haven't been marketed to women, with themes and design that does so women are more inclined to be playing those games, hence building a bigger female gaming market.
And im not talking generally, for example gacha games already succeed on this front relatively well and establish relatively even splits of male:female player base, but this is not the same case for the fps genre for example.
fax when are we getting a sexy big boob man game
Nah, not every game needs to pander to everyone. If you want sexualized men, go to otome games.
@@grinko1222 by this logic nobody should have an issue with Nicole's breasts getting censored, if you want big tiddies go play nikke.
Obviously that is a stupid thing to say, it's okay to ask that the things you like be in more videogames when it doesn't conflict with the games premise or identity. It's understandable to want attractive hunks in games with attractive babes, but it would be wierd to ask for such in say animal crossing or COD (maybe older cod games, newer ones have an array of crossovers and overt sexualisation so it could be there, i mean im pretty sure they had a rambo collab where he's obviously half naked because he's freakin rambo so it wouldn't ve out of the ordinary there to an extent.)
There is a disproportionate amount of sexy women compared to sexy men in games, i think it's okay to try and even it out by introducing more sexy men, i would disagree with the solution being to remove sexy women however, and again to place it in games where it has no place.
@@EyesDontCry This is like a guy complaining that there are no sexy women in otome games.
Demographics exist for a reason. Instead of complaining that games don't pander to everyone, ask and support games that cater to your interests.