Learning Instead of Tilting
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This is something that's probably experienced differently from person to person, but I know these ideas are true for people other than me, so hopefully sharing them can help with empathy if not self-knowledge. 
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I read the title as “leaning instead of tilting” so I thought it would be some new method of using motion controls where you move your entire body
this comment makes me laugh irl
As a back line player I've learned one thing about my play style. When I'm playing poorly, it's usually because instead of waiting for opportunities to get picks and support I'm trying to force the situation. I get impatient and try to push my way in and make the big plays but usually just ends up in me getting taken out. I don't often get angry at my teammates but I do get frustrated when my team seems to be getting dominated and I make even worse decisions because of it. My advice for people who want to do better is almost always the same, learn to take a moment and really think about what you're doing and how you can impact the match in your given role. Sometimes it works out other times it doesn't but usually it'll go a long way to helping turn things around if you're in a bad spot
I've been trying to learn not blame my teammates. And it gets especially frustrating when I can't tell if it's just me playing bad or the team is just bad.
It is annoying when I am trying to do what I'm supposed to and start going for those riskier plays because they seem to be not rushing out of the base and help push or atleast hold the line, as a Splattling can only do so much against an entire other team.
@@walkerpierce5446 I get it, I play splatling too. As backliners we take on the responsibility of being the wall. We are the last defense and it is our job to make sure, to the best we can, that our team is not left in the situation of not being able to get out of spawn. To that end I've been working on strategic retreat and support. Learning how to fall back to a defensible position is very helpful, but I've also started trying to actively help my team while not actually fighting anyone. If someone is approaching a teammate, I lay down suppressive fire, even if I don't think it will actually hit them, it's a distraction that helps. I've also started painting around my teammates when I can so they have escape routes when they need them. Sometimes I forget that my role is support, not slaying so I've been working on these things to really get more into active support frame of mind lol
You may already do all this stuff but if not these are the things I'm trying to be more aware of so hopefully it helps
@@jonservo Definitely helpful stuff. As a Hydra main, the better i pay attention to my teammates, the better we end up doing, usually. Helping by painting around them or throwing a bomb to help them distract (or find, with my auto-bomb) an oponent can go a long way.
It's also a very good way to communicate with randoms in solo queue : if a revived teammate is going back to the frontline, them seeing me shooting or throwing bombs behind a cover is already raising their awareness and giving them informations.
I wouldn't say that our role is exclusively support though, but as a Hydra i think i am one of the weapons that shifts roles the most often. During disadvantage, if i do well killing, we can turn things around very quickly. If we lack the lead, my firepower allows me to paint like 20% of the map in a single charge, rinse and repeat. And so on. It is in the end the best position to be in to get awareness, but it also requires various skills depending on the situation.
@@skadi2911 true enough. I wasn't trying to imply that support is all one should strive for though I may have sounded that way. For me personally, I tend to lose focus on the support and play more of a slayer role which often overextends me into enemy territory. I have had so many games where we are doing great until I suddenly die and then we lose all momentum and don't recover. Then I can only blame myself because it's obvious what went wrong. I feel like I've done my job when I've gotten a kd ratio of around 12/2. 0 would be best lol but I try not to die more than 3 times a match, anymore than that and it's hard to be an effective anchor since you're not in position most of the match.
You're definitely right about firing at hidden players to alert your team. I do that a lot lol
@@jonservo The anchor's curse 😅 Greediness is indeed our most punishable mistake, since the team relies on us so much.
The tilt being about humility part is insanely true. Literally every occasion I've gotten tilted is because I died to a player or tactic that I deemed below my skill level.
Yea, failures hurt all the greater when it comes from a Clash Blaster or Aerospray user, the sorta things I feel like I should know how to beat but can't always.
@@aegisScale It makes me feel weird seeing this since i work hard to get my kills with aero spray
@@azure4622 good job getting those kills with your aerospray, but just now that a lot of those kills has someone behind them raging that they got killed by a goddamn aerospray of all things (aka me)
@@azure4622 right? i just genuinely do well with it lol.
@@azure4622 I don't doubt that, just keep in mind I'm a Brella main and thus (theoretically) should have a low chance of dying to a shooter like the Jr. or aerospray at close range. Then again since my weapon of choice is busted to hell and back it's easier to get my ego bruised, since it can be hard to tell if I reacted incorrectly or would have reacted correctly if the shield worked properly.
Lesson I need to teach myself is this: Don’t play on low energy. Late at night, for hours on end, it just ruins your ability to be aware and make good decisions.
as someone who's struggled with anger a lot with video games, the single best decision i've made for mindset with splatoon is exactly the title of the video. my best exercise is to outright refuse to blame my teammates; whenever i die or something goes wrong, i make myself think about what _i_ could've done better. you 1. learn way more, 2. tilt way less, and 3. feel good about the previous 2. when i am able to take on this mindset, i have such a significantly better time playing, it's not even close
I do that too, but it honestly just makes me hate myself. I know it's my fault that we lost and it wouldn't be fair to blame others, especially in Splatoon's case since I'm actually handicapping the team by using stick controls, so I have to take responsibility for costing us the game.
When I start getting upset about getting no picks or my teammates getting dominated I just congratulate the team for their win. One time a brush player just zoomed past us to ink our turf and I just let ‘em go cause I ain’t chasing a brush with dualies 😂 so I infiltrated their turf and they couldn’t kill me and I got a wipeout.
I like to view my teamates as something you have to play around, You can't play every match the exact same way becuse your team might play completly different from one match to the next even if they're just as good as each other, It's like you get stuck doing what you're familiar with and expect others to play around you letting you avoid the fear of unknown, Which dosen't work if they share the same mindset as you unless you get lucky and pair up with those that have unique playstyles
I think this is a really great approach to it, whatever the case. Like what Gem brought up in the video too, is if you stop and think about it you're less prone to let your emotions take over, also helps if vocalise it e.g. by speaking out IRL your thoughts, since it takes a conscious effort to do that.
Is it just me or do you get stuck in ink a crap ton and die so annoying
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but it’s source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” -Iroh
Whenever I'm playing with my bf and I notice he starts saying things like "Of course" when he gets splatted and I can hear the frustration start to creep in, usually after we've lost 2-3 matches in a row I'll be like "ooh you wanna play some Salmon Run after this game?" to try to just get him a break from the competetives x
It's interesting to me that I and one other friend find losing matches to be enjoyable and informative, whereas my bf and another friend of ours just get frustrated by it and if you don't get them away from it, or get a win soon, it'll completely ruin their mood.
winning is everything, a law of Nature
@@normanred9212 sweaty
"wanna play salmon run ?" : get frustrated because of flyfishes .
i find it fine but if i keep losing over and over and over it eventually wears on you
Uhhh totally will copy your strat next time, heheheheh. even bf less
hey, guy that sparked this convo here. thanks for making this a video, I know I'm not the only one who tilts. this'll end up being a very re-watched for myself and hopefully others as we all struggle to improve. Love your content man, and thanks again!
something that's been helping me a lot that might help other people with awareness:
step back to a more backline weapon (I mostly play shooters but have been working on trying to learn some other classes, so I went for jet because the weapon itself isn't super challenging for me to use at this point) and put all your focus on tracking people. Obviously don't just stand still, move around, try to get picks, but take all focus off of how well you play. I find it easiest to monologue to myself, at the beginning note what weapons teams have, who you need to watch out for, who each team's front/backline are and who the painters, who the slayers are. then spend the game like "okay zap is down, blob on the left, there's a hydra up there that I need to watch out for, brush is headed this way, ah brush is down zap is back in blob has special" etc. etc. just really focus on being aware of what's happening. the way I see it, put that focus on awareness and then eventually you'll start unconsciously using that information. it's a little bit like a stick user switching from sticks to motion. your abilities might feel like they've dropped temporarily but it'll be better for you in the long run and eventually you'll get better than you ever were. I'm still in this process but I'm already so much more aware of what's going on than I ever was.
this is very good advice! i mostly play shooters as well, but never even considered trying to get more game knowledge from playing backline! thank you, i will genuinely use these tips moving forward.
I'm glad it could be of some use to someone! I'm very much still a beginner at splatoon, I got 2 years ago but only got back into playing it more maybe 3-4 months ago now. As was said in the video, it's a lot easier for backline to track what's going on because naturally the backline has a more observational position. I think if awareness is a big issue for someone like it is for me, stepping back to a long ranged weapon that allows you to play on the backline immediately makes being observant and aware easier. And then once you get used to being aware of the game from the back, you can kinda slowly move in and transfer those skills to more frontline roles.
or at least that's a goal anyways, I'm not there yet lmao. I've been really wanting to learn how to play sloshers and blasters but the slower shot speed has majorly highlighted how unaware I am of my surroundings, since it's much harder for me to react Suddenly to someone coming up behind me or from another unexpected angle. I watched thatsrb2dude's inside the mind video about positioning on the backline and the way he basically monologues his tracking of players in that video helped me highlight what exactly I needed to be paying attention to and it gave me the idea to try kinda monologuing that stuff out loud to myself in the same sorta way to force my attention onto it. Would definitely recommend watching that video and his other inside the mind videos if you're wanting to improve your gamesense and awareness in matches!
Of course. Even if my teammates are "doing poorly", there's always something I can do better. So maybe my team needs more support from me or I need to push with them in order to win. I'm not a top player, so I tend to blame myself a lot. I'm always in learning mode and keeping things in mind. Assess everything and even critique my own decisions on the spot. However, even if I'm readily able to critique myself during matches, I still find replays very helpful and I also really like watching from other pov's.
I do still get tilted if I'm just straight up doing badly. Like I should've gotten that snipe, it was so easy! And then just do charger drills to cool off...
I do this so often. I blame myself extremely frequently saying things along the lines of, "I'm really bad at this game "why am I awful"what's wrong with me" ECT. I would say 85/10/4/1 I blame me over the loss as opposed our comp as a whole/they were just better than us/ and that one guy in zones that's just in the opponents base that's sharking when no one dies and the zone needs serious attention
agreed. if the rest of your team isn't performing well, don't get a big head and start complaining. instead of getting mad at others, try to see what YOU can do to turn things around. don't focus on how badly you're losing, think critically about what you need to do to win. for example, how you can help your team if they're struggling, or how you can cover their weaknesses to let everyone really shine.
I never blame my teammates but I blame myself and beat myself up over every mistake. Most videos I watch on tilt talk about blaming other things and getting mad but never blaming yourself and getting mad
It may be a bias in the mindset of a content creator honestly. I always say that being an educator requires a certain degree of arrogance, haha, the assumption that you know better than someone else to the degree that they have many things they can learn from you. I feel like that confidence lends people who will put their ideas out on the internet about the subject toward teammate blame tilting instead of self blame tilting. I can't speak as confidently about the root of that sort of tilt but I think the 3 match rule will still work the same way
@@SquidSchool yeah taking breaks and trying to keep a learning mindset helps. If I don't take breaks I just make more mistakes which makes me more mad and then causes me to play worse and it's just a cycle that continues until I actually take a break.
I'm glad this video was made cause clearly it helps a ton of people but for me with the games I play it's ALWAYS blaming myself, just self degradation always and it gets frustrating cause I feel like I'm horrible at basically anything competitive I like playing. Evidently that's not too common cause with the Rivals of Aether and Splatoon discord when I've chatted about this I haven't gotten any solid answers on what I can do. Sure I can just practice and hope I just improve but it's not fun having to take breaks after every few losses or holding it in and hating myself.
hello, person who struggles with anxiety and self-loathing in general here
something i found to really help is to imagine someone else saying these things to me. eg “i’m feeding, i need to play more patiently” in my voice becomes “you’re feeding, you need to play more patiently” in, say, my friend’s voice. basically, i kinda detach those thoughts from myself and ask “are these valid criticisms?”
to determine whether or not those criticisms are valid, ask yourself if they’re tangible. something like “i’m not painting enough” has a more accessible solution than “i’m bad at the game”
i also find that when i’m criticizing myself, it helps a ton to say the solution out loud. and by solution, i mean like making a step-by-step plan for improvement, though that’s definitely not something that will work for everyone.
finally, if you find yourself really spiraling, take a break. that break doesn’t need to be that long. it can be 5 minutes. it can be an hour. just set the game down, take a walk, pet your cat or dog if you have one, just don’t interact with the game and clear your head.
self degradation is kinda like the flipside of tilt: you’re staking more of your self worth on your performance than what would be considered healthy, but instead of taking it out on your teammates, you’re taking it out on yourself.
tl;dr separate yourself from your thoughts and look at them through a telescope, take baby steps when it comes to improvement, and always remember to take care of yourself emotionally
There’s a guilty gear player, Romolla, who does a lot of videos about competitive mindset and a lot of it comes down to ego. Even though she plays fighting games they’re very good videos if you want some perspective on mindset from a very high level comp player (or you like vtubers with huge honkers)
Specifically I’d recommend “How to approach failure”. There is fighting game terminology involved, but understanding what your definition success is, is key to adjusting your mindset. Are you playing to be a good player or be *recognized* as a top player. Do you think playing a lot means you are entitled to success? Are you tying your self worth to your performance in the game?
This is also relationship advice (until 3:00)
or life advice
If you lose in 3 relationships, take a break and see if you're tilting
"3 relationships" :')
@@OktoPaull You'll get there, you're just not old yet lol
@@SquidSchool I Like Not being old lol
I have found Salmon Run to be very good for this. I find that SR is so team based with much less carry potential than regular ranked.
Although that might make it seem like it is easier to get tilted over teammates, I find it leads me to think of the team as a collective and not as a series of individuals.
We have to work together. So whenever there is a bad team wipe, I know that I could have done more to stay aware of what my team is doing and there was more I could do to support them.
It has been a great mode to help me reflect on my own actions and what I need to do to be a good team player. I would really recommend spending some time grinding SR. You might not think that it helps your performance in ranked but it really helps to develop skills in a simple but incredibly hectic environment.
Besides that, I recommend people to remember that, no matter the game mode, it is all just meaningless numbers. It is nice to rank up and it sucks to lose but it is all just a game. Don’t let your ego get attached to a few rank points.
I'm using Tilt Controls!
Appreciate the video -- I'm working on tilting less but honestly my experience is kind of the opposite side of it. I taught myself long ago in other games to take responsibility and recognize what I'm doing wrong, but now when things do get frustrating it's from those times when I'm doing something foolish (or my aim just entirely fails me), and sometimes those pile up and I just feel like I'm awful. It's like I've taken to recognizing my mistakes a little too well, to the detriment of looking at anything positive, and part of the annoyance comes from being able to recognize what I think I did wrong but often not so soon that I actually don't do the thing.
I definitely see the difference when I focus on self improvement, even if I lose. This game has a way to reward patience and gaining small advantages.
Definitely a hard mindset to adopt when you're getting steamrolled and you don't know why though lol. Heck, I need to do a better job looking at replays and looking at the overall match.
The problem is not me, its the fact everyone else is better than me and the game deems it necessary to pair me up against those that so severely outclass me in the first place.
Its impossible not to get tilted.
First and foremost, I feel like being able to actually tell when you're making mistakes is the most important thing to worry about. If you blame your team for everything, you'll never feel the need to improve; if you blame yourself for everything, you're not only going to get burnt out fast, but you might be spreading yourself out too thin trying to improve in every possible way and to carry the match, so as such you'll hardly see any progress. Once you can discern your teammates' mistakes from your own, improvement will come much more naturally.
Some ppl might also refuse to watch their own losing replays, which is imo more important than watching those sweet moments where everything went smoothly... since you can learn so much more by observing your own losses.
The whole "tilting is anger at other people, allow yourself to learn" is the complete opposite of what it seems for me; I recognize that I'm fucking up, and it is not the team's fault, but the vexing part is when there doesn't seem to be anything I could've done.
You should seriously play more Salmon Run and get to actual high difficulties where the entire team has to carry their weight. Killing 4 humans is so easy anyone can do it. Killing 500 Salmonids, with limited ink capacity and DPS uptimes and guaranteed mandatory periods of recharging is so impossible that even you CAN'T DO IT. I would love to see your psycho anaysis of a game mode that DEMANDS teamwork because MECHANICALLY, NO ONE CAN SOLO CARRY IT, and see your follow up video on that compared to this one. I'm in the Salmon Run bracket where I can play with decision-making, reflexes, and aim that are all within the 95% range of being actually perfect and have 0 chance of meeting the eqq quotas, entirely because of what my team is doing. That experience is *truly* tilting.
i wouldn't say I'm great at learning But I know to take breaks if I get frustrated. especially cause I play for fun
hey, as long as you're having a good time, that's all that matters. :)
A method I use for dealing with Tilt is something I call “anti-tilt procedure.”
If I ever start getting tilted, and start going to that place of “what is my team doing? Where are they when I need them?” I’ll flip that on it’s head. Maybe the problem isn’t that they aren’t doing well enough to keep up with me. Maybe the problem is that I am actually the one who isn’t trying to help support them and sustain them. If my team really isn’t pulling their weight on their own, maybe they need help or support to keep them up and alive, or maintaining turf for them so they aren’t left with no escape route.
Put another way, it I try to keep a mindset that it is my responsibility to make sure my team wins, rather than my team’s responsibility to make sure I win. Turning that frustration into productive energy has helped me reduce a lot of my anger or frustration at the game, and has definitely helped me turn games around. It also helps to remember that they may be frustrated too; and showing the first effort to stop and rethink the play helps that frustration a lot on both ends, even if they don’t see it.
"Zen and the Art of Splatoon 3", I especially love the mindset videos and am learning so much in my Splatoon journey. From playing the original on the WiiU with my kids, Splatoon 2 on my son's Switch and now Splatoon 3 on my very own Switch (which I bought during the lock down to play Animal Crossing). Who knew that Splatoon 3 would become my latest obsession? You are very wise and your videos are great. Thank you!
And always remember that even if you know that you made a mistake, don't beat yourself up about it either! I've definitely fallen in the pit of getting the same kinda tilted at myself before, and it's not much better than getting mad at teammates.
I think I have raged way more about my shitty internet than my games themselves, but what you say could even be applied to that, appreciate this small clip!!!
How I avoid rage? I don't, everyone is susceptable to rage. I have learnt a mindset from Overwatch "GG go next" its not this game is lost I will just play the next one, it is what happened last game is exclusive to last game, and if i let it, it shouldnt impact the next one. When i get tilted, I take a break to stop playing the game, doesn't mean I'm not trying to improve, this is a great time (for me) to watch me, and look at how stupid some mistakes are I make in the heat of the moment. I did not know how widespread it was that people stop playing after 3 losses, I thought it was common.
thank you for this video man
I have very severe issues with emotional dysregulation (that I have been working on in therapy for a few years), and now I'm recently getting into competitive splatoon and do want to one day possibly join a team, so tilting is a massive problem for me
definitely gonna keep in mind the take a break after 3 losses rule, that seems so useful
Humility is 100% the most important factor to tilt from my experience, but I’ve found tilt also happens in 1v1 games. As a Tetris player, there are only two things you can blame, the opponent and yourself. Making the excuse that “they used a broken strat” of course makes you tilt by not accepting responsibility and not respecting the other player. But whenever I used to blame myself saying “I played so bad”, it tended to have the exact same effect. I think this is a combo of lack of humility and mindset, because I was taking it personally rather than objectively, especially with the weight of those words. Something that seems to help is saying “they played better”. It gives the opponent your respect, while also accepting your loss. Now, sometimes you *are* playing bad, and it’s important to recognize that, and then to _stop playing._ Take a break.
I have a lot of thoughts on this topic, but I’ll just stop at that
pretty good tips, thanks! i love reading these comments, they help me consider a lot of perspectives that differ slightly from my own. appreciate you sharing yours :)
It's also good to watch replays of losing matches in the perspective of your teammates, so you have more reasons to blame them for their uselessness
I'm weird, I'm the guy who gets tilted at his team in Salmon Run lol. This video was still very help, as all of Gem's videos are.
I find I get the most frustrated when I know I'm doing poorly and can't turn it around, I rarely get frustrated at my team when they suck, usually it's at my own incompetence, taking a break us absolutely the number 1 way to fix this for me, but sometimes a weapon/role change can help too. I have also noticed that sometimes it helps to forget about painting and wait and watch what's happening on the map before taking action
I always have the problem of getting tilted at myself. I get tilted when a game was lost and I don't know what I could have done better because I don't have the game knowledge or lost mostly on execution, my poor reaction time and shaky hands leading to missing kills I should have got.
Literally just coming down from a salmon run tilt. Self reflecting on the errors i made in a hazard level i’m not used to
Thank you for these videos, they are an amazing help and the reason I started Splatoon!
I’ve learnt to laugh things off and joke about my teammates and the enemy team so it’s hard to tilt when you know you’re playing a game with squids shooting ink everywhere. I haven’t tilted as significantly as in s2 once I got into comp in s3
super helpful video! made me think a lot more about getting tilted in solo q, and it also helped me realize why i tend to get more tilted when playing backline vs. playing frontline in solo. i never even realized the fact that, yeah, that couldve looked like a dumb idea from where i was standing, but the frontline has a much smaller line of sight on the opponents so of course they couldve not realized that, for example, there was somebody behind them. again, super helpful - thanks a ton!
I like the three loss rule, but I've had to take time off of it now that I'm finally learning motion controls (after hundreds of hours on stick controls in all three games). Right now I'm not tilting, I'm just bad.
i played 75 hours of only sticks in splatoon 2, and switched to motion for 3. it's definitely a rough learning curve, but it's soooo worth it. keep it up, you'll be doing MUCH better sooner than you think!
i was about to fall asleep, but this just HAPPENED to pop up as i was turning off my phone. i GUESS i have an extra 10 minutes
Sleep is important! The video would still have been there in the morning
Cool timing. I have been working recently on my anger which seemed to spiral out of control during the pandemic. I noticed that for like the past week i stopped getting tilted or angry and i feel so much better when i play. I often smile more regardless of the results as long as i feel like i did well. Wanna watch this to see what else i can do to improve
Ive gotten much better about not feeling tilted after matches compared to where I start. I still get frustrated when I lose a series some days but being able to view replays from all kinds of perspectives has helped a lot. I played a Clam Blitz series last night and we did incredibly well, and I rewatched the successful matches from as many perspectives as I felt I needed to in order to see what my teammates were doing and what I could have been doing to better support them, which I don't think we talk about enough either. There were times when I was standing way further back than I needed to during a numbers advantage and a teammate started pushing and I should have been pushing with them earlier. Even though we still won, I find things I could have been doing better and where I was being carried by my teammates. I also watch my losing matches from my opponents perspectives to see where I was messing up and why they were able to splat me, that's helped me be a lot more conscious in my movement decisions, like "Oh right, when I've done this before I have gotten taken out" Lastly like last night there were several times I didn't even notice when my teammates would save my life and in the heat of it I didn't see them step in to help, but in the replay seeing that from their perspective I can absolutely see it, and seeing those kinds of moves helps me know how to be a better supportive teammate. One of my favorite quotes from a competitive player is, "Don't look at your own KDA. Look at your teammates' deaths. You're not truly working as a team until you're making sure your teammates are dying as little as possible". Like, I was in a tricky spot and out of ink and my teammate dropped down in their crab tank to shield me and ink my feet. That's so genius, they saved my life. Rather than going off on my own, I strive to keep a look out for my teammates more and more. Likely if I'm dying and they're dying, we simply aren't working together as much as we should be. It isn't about the individual, it's a team game
need to rewatch this more often, my tilting has gotten REALLY bad recently no matter hard i try to avoid it- ill usually be fine for like 30 mins but then go off the rails after, but also the first 30 mins is warmup so idk what to do
Please make more videos like this! It was great!
A bit of a suggestion(person who lives as a versatile aggro/defensive Anchor/Backline player) whether its a shorts or a full video but for the newer people of veterens who have fallen into bad habits or unaware, you should prolly do a video on properly using or when to use the gesture(Booyah, This way etc) for specific situations whether its to alert your team of other players being up to something, tell them that you've opened up a path for them in rainmaker that most of the opposing team hasnt taken notice of, "help me" if getting overwhelmed, etc. Seeing how its something I've taken notice of since splatoon 1 when people either booyah pointlessly or stay silent when it couldve helped others in crucial moment that either lead to your or the opposing team bunching up or scattering or worse even refusing to push/leading to everyone trying to be the hero without an anchor or others guarding them. And thats not counting the moments if there are tenta missles being spammed at once that most people either panic and not pick an optimal route where they dont run to instead of into their teammates where either no one/only them or all their teammates get splatted from it as a result. Just something as a suggestion in the future.
Something I like doing is going back into replays and watching opponents viewpoints how and where they were able to splat me. As a brush main getting in and knowing when and how to approach has been a made so much easier.
I didn’t even realize how playing solo-brush would define where I view the game from. The perspective of “backline sees everything” is something I never understood. Thanks for shifting my understanding, I’ll have to play other roles to do my main one well.
At this point I think of how childish I look while tilting instead of thinking about what I just did. I see a family member of mine tilt all the time bc they lose in COD instead of thinking about why they lost.
That's a cool way to deal with it, kind of takes you out of your own emotional state and makes you roleplay as someone who's just passively observing it.
Definitely makes it easier to keep the flow going as a bambo trying to win encounters with classic chargers or splatlings. Playing a somewhat aggressive anchor weapon just gives you a different perspective for well earned splats and good situational awareness.
This video is great! I think the video "I'm bad" by Leon Massey can go over the tilting mindset from a slightly different angle if anyone is interested in extended viewing.
i'm a super casual player & i don't get tilted very often, but if i feel like i'm about to, i take a break asap or even just stop my play session then. i'm in it for the fun and it's not fun to play when tilted 💀
when playing matches i kinda go onto "autopilot" a lot, prolly bc adhd , and sometimes end up making weird plays or mistakes because i'm not entirely thinking. x_x & when i mess up because of this (if i realize it) i always try to think of what went wrong & how to avoid making that mistake again.
it's kinda hard to avoid autopiloting like tht but i try to, having head in the game is important! focus is important too but i'm not built for that (adhd)
The way I see it, there's only one of me and 3 of my teammates. Odds are if I have the highest scores consistently while my team has substantially lower scores, it wouldn't make sense to blame myself. Statistically speaking.
is there a word for getting tilted say after loosing a ton in a 1v1 match where its not that youre angry at the other person but just frustrated in general and your self confidence is kinda being worn down resulting you in getting frustrated and burnt out?
This is the most philosophical funny squid game video I’ve ever seen
I often just feel like I'm learning nothing from anything I do. Like, I TRY to learn from my mistakes, sometimes I jump in when I shouldn't because I'm panicking. Sometimes I just miss a lot of shots in a row and die as a result. Sometimes I'm just by myself without realizing it, like I assumed I'd get followed or everyone died really quickly... I guess I really do need to look at replays, because I can't figure out everything on just from my experiences... although I'm worried I'm going to get tilted when someone else does something that bothers me, like if someone passes by with the objective while they were using crab tank or something.
I think what ends up bothering me the most is when it's not exactly a close game until the last 30 seconds where someone does a push that puts them too far ahead of us so there's just no point in playing anymore, since I almost never make it to overtime for whatever reason.
I feel like I have a unique backstory on tilt so I should talk about it, for preface I have mild cerebral palsy, anger issues, and I am studying psychology, fun mix, but often my tilt was directed at my body and not my team, self tilt is also a thing and it sucks because it makes you a defeatist and lack confidence in your own abilities in a match.
After a long time I have managed my anger issues and they are very much so a minor thing now after that, but cerebral palsy isn't something that can go away, despite that I frame my mindset to be that, despite my disability, I am playing well, and reinforcing that I am doing well, I recognize the mistakes I did make and such, but I point to my 22-3 KD on Hydra Splatling and go "that is the result of years of practice, tou should be proud of that!"
So there are several kinds of tilt, but the most common is the blame game, but in my experience an internal tilt is also very common, just one people never vocalize much.
Great video mate!
Came for the splatoon stayed for the mental health advice
As someone from the Doom Eternal crowd, watching your own footage back and realising everything you could have done to avoid disaster is extremely beneficial, and getting others to assess what you're doing right and wrong. Wouldn't be a super juicer today if it weren't for them.
One of my friends has trouble with a souring mood during matches, but it’s not from ego but because they think their own performance isn’t enough, that they wouldn’t be winning without a good team, and that they’re not improving enough to be even an average player (they don’t trust the rank medals or when they score higher than the rest of us). Do you have thoughts regarding that kind of mounting frustration as opposed to the seemingly outwardly-inspired kind of tilt?
I am not Gem but I think I can help because I do the same thing, your friend and I are both defeatists. It’s a little different than what Gem is referring to, but they are both ego driven. It comes from having a “fixed mindset” instead of a “growth mindset” and thinking you’re either “good” or you suck and you can’t really grow and learn to “become good” if you don’t already have some “talent” at the game. I realized that I take too much responsibility for the outcome of matches and performance of everyone on the team and therefore blame myself for losses because I’m supposed to be “good” at the game and forgot that I had to learn it like everyone else to get to my level. It’s important to remember we sometimes can’t control the outcome of a match & we all make mistakes, including you and including teammates. No one is perfect. Rather than play the “blame game” at all and find someone to blame, yourself or others, try to shift focus away from the negative feeling of defeat and towards the positive. Acknowledging the skill of the other team, acknowledging that ‘I played my hardest and did all I could at my current skill level’ and recognizing that you are growing as a player in every match and making progress even if you don’t see it can really help with building confidence and break out of the fixed mindset. He can start noticing when he makes positive changes like “i got more kills this match than last match” or “i sub-strafed in this match & I’ve never used that before in a game” to see that he is doing well, spending his time meaningfully, and making contributions. And of course take breaks and come back with a clear head. Good luck to you all! I hope this helps.
I tilt a lot before in Spaltoon, by currently I've been trying to get through coping with losing and try not to tilt as much as before.
I don’t have an issue with tilting, but my emotions can get very high when playing Splatoon. One habit I developed while playing through the harder levels of Octo Expansion was to give myself a certain amount of tries; if I could not pass the level in that amount of tries, I had to get up and do something productive. I ended up doing chores I had put off for MONTHS that way, and I was able to go back to the game with a much clearer head!
One important thing about doing this is making sure you have the proper mindset about it. When you don’t succeed and have to go do whatever it is, don’t think of it as a punishment, because it isn’t one! You’re taking a break to do something else with results. You’re redirecting the focus of your brain away from the repetitive stress you’re enduring, and placing it into something completely different. I think the physical aspect of moving away from wherever you’re playing also does something psychologically, but I’m not 100% sure on that one.
What about the case of getting tilted exactly from realizing that you have messed up? That happens too!
I thought this video was about poker...
I admit, I tend to get tilted. But I don’t find myself blaming my team mates. I get tilted at myself. Like if I lose an interaction due to bad aim, or my movement could have been better. I was pretty bad about it in Splatoon 2. I notice myself improving in this game, though.
Yeah, you're not alone with that, even in this comment section. Still recommend the 3 match rule and VOD reviews to give you a more objective perspective on what's really going wrong
Man, I cannot tell you how much your channel is helping me with this game. I bought 2 at launch and enjoyed what I played of it, but never really played enough of it to get to know the game properly. Between then and now I actually did get into a competitive game for the first time- Overwatch. Between that experience and your/Dude's content I am getting so into 3 that it's actually becoming a problem...cancelling game sessions with my normal buddies to play this instead, staying up too late playing it, compulsively checking the app for gear and to see what stages are coming up that day.
Not to mention that Splatoon has a *seriously* awesome community. Coming from Overwatch the positivity and lack of toxicity is wildly refreshing.
are... are we the same person? we have the EXACT same story lmfao, even down to playing overwatch specifically
Back in my Splatoon 2 days, I got really mad at my teammates, but I've definitely gotten way more open minded now. I had a Tower game a bit back where even as the person who got top of the time on a team of weaker weapons (like at least one Aerospray), I still identified the moment where I messed up and cost us the game (not using Booyah bomb on tower to secure the lead by hiding in the explosion and instead dying to their hydra while trying to clutch it).
Identifying where you personally messed up is one step to growth in this game I believe
Hey Gem, I just want to say thank you, you've been a major inspiration for my videos! :D
i generally have the opposite problem where i place TOO much of the blame on myself and my performance. instead of getting angry, i get sad lol. even in games where someone on my team has 0 kills and 9 deaths it still doesnt really register that i did what i could.
dang, those were good points o.o
I find it very interesting what you describe, obs everyone is different. For me, i start tilting if i start having lots of dumb mistakes in a row. Like if you die 2 in row i could just allow your enemies to do a great push or it stops your own teams push and resets it completely back to neutral. If that than happens in multiple games in a row and i otherwise play well enough, i end up tilted. Otherwise if i just sucked a whole round it's actually less frustration inducing.
What I always struggle with as a backliner is when the opponent comes right at me up close and I can't respond fast enough to defend myself or retreat, which frustrates me. It also seems like I just can't hit anyone at any range; up close, mid, far; just can't aim worth a darn. Idk how I can learn from those mistakes when I know it's me but just can't react fast enough...
Also, question: HOW do you deal with tryhards who constantly overwhelm you in every match and you just can't make a comeback no matter what you try? I'm running into tryhards out the wazoo during Splatfests, which ruins the "fun" factor for me...
Splatoon is probably the only game I get even remotely close to toxic in. And honestly the reason is because I can't communicate with my teammates. I know that a lot of people can get toxic in voice chat, but I'm the type of person that never does. On the other hand when my teammates make dumb decisions over and over and I can't tell them what they are doing wrong it leads to me shouting on my couch at no one.
I know I make mistakes too. There are probably times where I'm the cause of other people shouting at their TVs from time to time. I frequently see the mistakes I make in matches. But it's so frustrating when I keep losing my advancement series into S+ while routinely carrying my team and not being enough better than everyone else to win on my own. It's crazy because I get plenty of games with teammates that are better than me, but it seems like every time I go for advancement I get teammates that just do everything wrong.
For me at least I would get far far less frustrated with my teammates if I could just talk to them during matches. And that includes getting feedback from them about what I'm doing wrong.
Naturally when I make mistakes for me it makes sense, it also makes sense when I could’ve saved my teammate from a fight they’re having trouble with.
It’s not my problem when the backline refuses to actually be a backline weapon and then rushes into the worst positions possible.
I am S+ at the negatives to an embarrassing number, and I also have OCD. This video was a good reminder of healthy practices when playing this sort of game, so thanks so much for this.
One should also be mindful not to beat oneself up for mistakes, especially when you are still learning. It's easy to say: "I'm bad, why should I even play" and be overly critical of yourself in an unhelpful way instead of spinning a loss or mistake into a learning experience. Also, that is great advice about stepping away for a few minutes. It can also be good to practice breathing exercises during that time as well, to calm your nerves.
I've been trying out range blaster. And in tower control, I'm at the point where people realize that not everyone needs to be on the tower. But that means that Noone goes on the tower, which forces me to go on it instead of a splat roller
Ooooh very helpful 👀 thanks teach 😊
Whatever role I play, I already have a mindset to not get tilted on games and I will focus on helping with team mate painting or taking pick on stray opponent. But when judging, I never include my team mate but myself. It could be me standing in their way when they try to shoot, it could be me poorly position during the fight where I stand closer than I should. It can even be that the opponent got a good first few hit on me and we end on a trade with my team mate picks them off.
Those are very small but I usually exclude team mate when I judge what I do right or wrong. They also are trying to do the same you would just they might notice something you don't know cause there isn't enough communication option than "This Way" on Open.
Adding on top, I can also think why my team mate got splatted when I was nearby them is also a good way to put yourself in your team mate perspective where they are standing near you as well, that will give you a bigger picture and multiple perspective to look at
As an anchor player I often blame myself for certain situations instead of my teammates. "Why did I push that" "what am I doing positioning here" etc. Like my team couldve super jumped to me, but because I pushed up they couldn't ya know. Its always my own impatience than it is my teammates for me
Climbing out of B and A rank was very tilting for me. I can only play the game occasionally and it felt like the rotation was always on Splat Zones, which is bad for me because I mostly play roller and can't paint the zone very well. I had to depend on my teammates to paint the zone for the most part and I would focus on getting rid of the enemy team. There was nothing more frustrating than getting 2 picks and trading with a third player only for my teammates to either all get splatted by the last guy or just not paint the zone in the advantage I gave them. This happened so many times in B rank and quite a few times in A.
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3:07 "My single piece of advice would be to understand that getting the most amount of splats in a game does not necessarily mean that you played perfectly or you did everything properly; there is always more to learn. Just because you get the most amount of splats doesn't mean that you played the game right." - Shak (FTWin), during the Splatoon 2 World Championship 2019
Gem quotes FLC (AUS) by suggesting that a slayer's most important stat is not the number of splats they scored but the number of times their teammates were splatted; the more a slayer (1) follows up on a skirmisher's initial attack, (2) intercepts opposing would-be flankers attacking their anchor (e.g., by checking the map for opponents' ink movement), and (3) protects their support player to provide the latter time and space to escape an unfavorable situation (and preserve the latter's precious special gauge progress), the fewer times their teammates get splatted.
I tend to get tilted in pvp games and 3 is my first splatoon game so it happens quite a bit. The thing that gets me the most is when i feel like i’m not getting to play the game and spending more time on the respawn menu (quickrespawn.wmv). Happens in TF2 as well and i get major cases of “you vs them” syndrome where it feels like i’m always getting two-shot by the smallest attacks from far away but for me to get kills/splats i need to be right in their face and focus all of my effort into one enemy or the fights seem way easier for the enemy team. I’ve started to be more conscious of when i start getting tilted but I really need to work on analyzing what happened and improving.
i usually always assume im the one fucking up lol, i probably put too much trust in my teammates 😂
I have no clue why, but I never raged when I lost in splatoon. I do get slightly mad, but never raged.
Can you teach us anything about the Undercover Brella other than “It’s terrible; don’t use it.”
Well, I have said that it's a skirmisher, wants to draw aggro long enough for its teammates to win the fight from an off-angle. It can kite a little bit with mines, similar to how e-liters run away from people. And don't end a reefslider in an open sightline against an e-liter.
B - Blame fairly. Bad things that happens are a combination of something you did, something others did, and plain bad luck.
A - Accept what you can't change and change what you can change.
Literally the day after the stream, I had Health class and we got a paper about resilience. I don't know what that means and it makes me upset but that's besides the point. The back of the paper had the the letters of BOUNCE BACK seperated and with sentences for each letter. The letter B and A in BACK stood out to me and it was someting I wanted to share.
If your teammate did in fact do something that made you lose, that isn't always entirely your fault. If you are in a 1 v 1, and somebody's rng was just better than yours, that also isn't entirely your fault. You can still do things to prevent these situations where things are entirely out of your control from happening as often. What those things are depend on the situation and there are many things you can do to help fix it (slowly, it won't always happen immediately and that isn't bad either)
This was a lot to type geez :>
what if my tilt is entirely self focused?
I think for me the easiest way to not tilt is when i realize myself not learning and starting to get angry, I stop playing and come back to it later. Theres always tomorrow! Playing for long times can tire you out!
I wish I could get out of A rank asap because it’s really annoying having terrible teams that don’t really help much compared to what the other teams get. I still work with it and have to carry hard to win, but it’s just exhausting and annoying because I rage at how blatantly useless my teammates are being.
I’ve actually done a decent job dealing with tilt by telling myself that I’m still improving at splatoon 3, and am likel making mistakes
I do wanna toss out that I personally tend to get tilted because I feel a loss is my fault. I can get very easily discouraged when I can see a problem but struggle to find any sort of solution that isn't something akin to grinding out my aim. I tend to just take breaks when that happens, since usually that form of discouragement is why I can't find a solution to my issue. Something I've learned about Splatoon that helps with this is how, while aim is still important, usually your technical physical skill isn't what gets you killed, it's your decisions, and keeping that in mind can help you put agency in your own hands and combat feeling like you're the worst, since there are likely at least a couple things you can implement to play better.
I feel like there are plenty of times where your team mates are just dead weight, it's why playing with friends on voice is so much better, you have communication and they will actually make good use of numbers advantage or jumping to team mates.
It's so annoying when people either didn't jump when I get behind the enemy or when they jump when I'm getting shot at by the enemy so they jump just to be splatted.
It's so annoying when they don't push though when only 2 enemies are on the front and 2 are still at base where I'm trying to keep their attention so it's a 2v3 but they still don't go on the offensive.
Especially if I get splatted and they are still playing super defensive and not making any attempt to push forward.
I don't know if I can recommend taking a break every bad 3 rounds. I recently had some bad games in tower control and I just told myself, I would continue playing even if I lost all of my rank points. And I got better. I have recognized, that the strat I've been using, throwing a bomb on the tower at the beginning of the game didn't really work with opposing teams anymore (my weapon: octobrush). And I instead pushed immediately in following games, hid on the side of the tower and focused on killing anyone that came close to the tower and continued to push. I had a way better success rate after that. I even gained me some rank points, despite having some few disconnects
Thank you, teacher.
This is the biggest game changer with improvement, I think. It's very easy to fall into the trap of blaming everything around you, but when you start to humble yourself and accept the fault, that's where you really start to notice all the tiny, silly things you're doing wrong. If you record yourself playing while tilted and watch it back, you're going to be screaming at yourself 90% of the time for all the stupid decisions you catch yourself making. You will almost *never* agree with your tilted self.
I think a lot of people struggle with the idea that they're not better than everyone else in the room. They feel like they should be contributing the most and get frustrated when they come up short. That's not necessarily a selfish mindset. It might frustrate them because they feel like being one of the worse/worst players in the room means they're letting their teammates down.
What is important to realize is that even in competitive play, there is always a worst player in the room. That worst player might change from game to game, but there is always going to be someone at the bottom and that doesn't mean they don't deserve a position on that team, it's likely that same player has pulled countless game-changing plays in other games.
I think when you give this advice, a lot of people take offense to it. Like you're telling them they suck at the game. But I think it's a lot more telling when someone refuses to acknowledge where they could've done better about their interest in actually improving.
I play a lot of Salmon Run and notice I do my best when I go out of my way to support my teammates and it's tilting af how rarely ppl do the same. I've seen ppl die to tenta missiles just to steal one egg from me lmao
i feel like people focus only on self improvement in these videos, and that's not a bad thing inherently, but i also think it's important to recognize when the reason you're losing IS genuinely your teammates. not so you can get mad and blame them, but so you can adapt and try to turn things around. i've won many games by basically soft guiding my teammates through the second half of a game once i realize what they're struggling with. of course focus on yourself too, but if you can, definitely try to also pay attention to your team and think about how you can help ALL of you perform better. easier said than done obviously, but it's worth it. definitely harder to do in solo queue, but still possible in my experience. although, i'm just filthy A ranker at the end of the day, so take what i say with a grain of salt. :)
tl;dr while you should definitely focus on your own performance, sometimes your teammates genuinely are the problem, but that's not an excuse to get mad. analyze what they're doing wrong, try to help them in those situations they struggle with, and try to make up for their shortcomings when you're not.
could you give an example?
@@scribblecloud well, in a game I just played, my team absolutely could not push into the splat zone. Our backliner kept getting instakilled, and nobody could break through. So, noticing that, I just started guarding our backliner with my life, occasionally going off to get picks when the coast looked clear. We still didn’t end up winning this time, but we got much closer than we would’ve if we kept doing the same thing over and over again.
Honestly I think most of the time when I get tilted its when no matter what I do I can't seem to do much in certain matches of Turf War. (Don't play much ranked as I know myself.) A lot of the time it's bad weapon matchup between teams. I tend to start pushing even more in those cases which is absolutely on me. But that's also about all I CAN do in that scenario for Turf. I just don't like being stuck in place unable to even make a decent comeback. Win or lose.
(Might help once I switch weapons. I enjoy the up close nature of Sploosh, but am currently grinding ability chunks to get gear ready for a change up.)
I have ascended past getting tilted at video games after beating spelunkey 2
I kinda wish there was a kill cam. I learn so much from those in COD