Bowser’s Fury - Nintendo’s Groundbreaking Experiment.
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Bowser’s Fury is a really fascinating experimental game. Not only is Bowser’s Fury a ton of fun to play through, but the game actually manages to solve a several decades old problem of the Super Mario Series. Bowser’s Fury finally solves the 3D Mario paradox, that Nintendo has been struggling with for decades. In this video we are going to take a look at the 3D Super Mario paradox, at how Bowser’S Fury solves it, and what all of this means for the future of Super Mario.
00:00 - Intro
01:29 - The Mario Paradox
07:36 - The Fury Solution
13:03 - Total Stagnation
18:13 - Mario’s Next Jump
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Super Mario Sunshine OST - A Secret Course
Super Mario Galaxy OST - Comet Observatory
Bowser’s Fury OST - Crisp Climb Castle
Bowser’s Fury OST - Pounce Bounce Isle
Super Mario Odyssey OST - Steam Gardens
Super Mario Odyssey OST - Bonneton
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time OST - Gerudo Valley
Paper Mario, Origami King OST - Sweetpaper Valley
Paper Mario, Origami King OST - The Elastic Entertainer Enters
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HolFix - Beyond The Kingdom
• [Free Music] HolFix - ...
------Kevin MacLeod
"Adventure Meme"
Kevin MacLeod incompetech.com
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I really want to see Ceave beat bowser's fury while crouching
Ya.
Me too
Me the ALPHA MALE of this comment section and me command RESPECT. Right now me ordering you to NOT view any of me v*de*s. Instead just look at me th*mbnails and be JEALOUS. Bye bye x
@@AxxLAfriku bruh can you not do reverse psychology and self promote
Thank you Ben zabrocki. I've not heard of Nathaniel before and I'm gonna watch that video now
Miyamoto: The solution is cats.
Doug Bowser: But we already had cats in the last one.
Miyamoto: Yes, but what if _everything_ was a cat?
Doug Bowser: ...You are a true genius, sir.
Doug Bowser actually didn't like that, and was so angry with the idea that they called the game Bowser's Fury
Miyamoto: and sadly your Mario counterpart couldn’t be a cat but it can be edgy
Miyamoto only supervises the Mario games nowadays.
Nintendo like cat
even waluigi is a cat
“It’s like with GameFreak, where we can have either beautiful, state-of-the-art graphics, *or a new Pokemon game”*
I really like that line lol
Pokémon does not care about graphics.
Ceave delivering the burns today
The part hit me too hard
savage
I'm getting the sense that Ceave has been locked in Nintendo's horrible vault before.
Naughty RUclipsrs get locked in the *h o r r i b l e v a u l t*
It was his punishment for uploading a truly impossible level
what vault?
considering he hasn't posted in a year, he's probably back there again.
LOL i couldnt stop thinking about this comment every time he mentioned the horrible vault
This game was an experiment. 3D world was a whole new type of 3D Mario and they continued the science with bowsers fury. They both created some really good Mario games. I think it was a success!
3D Land: ):
@Goomboom I grew up playing galaxy at home and 3d land in the go. Seeing people forget about it and claiming that 3d world was a new innovation of regular 3d mario's even thought 3d land came first makes me sad.
I dont think it was an experiment. They made Bowsers Fury so they could sell 3D World again to the players who already played it before and Bowsers Fury was way too short :(
@@VideoGameManiac8 watch the video
@@The360MlgNoscoper no
Looking back, it feels like Odyssey's Lost Kingdom was sort of a stepping stone to Bowser's Fury. Lost is one of the only kingdoms with tons of tight and linear platforming challenges woven into the world design, and it really stood out against some of the more casual open world kingdoms like Sand or Metro.
Lost Kingdom could have literally been an island in Bowser's Fury if you just replaced the poison surrounding the island with regular water and placed it in Lake Lapcat.
Me here trying to figure out who his favorite water-based sidekick is before noticing the prominent Ruto poster
it might be water bottles
It's Lapras, bc they carry you in (almost) every pokemon game - literally
I thought nintendo with 2D mario was "aight do it yourself" and just leaved everything in Mario Maker so there will be enough levels to play, as creativity the people of the whole world has, and thus they didn't need to make a 2D mario again.
I think that is their mentality, people seem tired of them making 2D Mario games, so they just gave them MM2 and said "Go nuts" making it seem that they won't be touching 2D Mario again for a bit.
Well MM2 did have Story Mode so its possible that in future, Nintendo completely merges 2D Mario with Mario Maker series.
I think they also don't want to cannibalize their own property, Nintendo is pretty big about that. Maker is what's shown to sell 2D marios these days, so maker is 2D mario.
You can't rely on Mario maker all the time for 2D mario levels. Nintendo could even be working on a new 2D mario now; who knows what's next
@@davinchristino They could make the 2D Mario in the next Mario Maker's Story Mode. They dont have to flood the market.
5:23 With the Galaxy games happily floating somewhere in the space between
I see what you did there
“Space”
“Where we can either have beautiful, state of the art graphics, or a new Pokémon game”
he’s right
Timestamp 7:08
As a pokemon fan, this hits really hard because it's true
Ain't that the truth
Poorly aged comment
I like how if you 100% Bowser’s fury, giga cat mario turns into the model for normal cat mario
Bjr and plessie also become cats
I was *really* hoping that that change carried over to 3d world. So I 100%'d BF first.
Sadly it does not. :(
Spoilers kinda
@@MantaKizaemonFTW
Well yes, but this is why you watch the video first. Or uh... play the game first
Wait really???? I didn’t know that :0
And I even 100% the game, huh-
2 years later...Super Mario Bros Wonder is announced. I just hope finally we will have a new and unique 2D Mario experience
You can tell when it's an exploration based one by the existence of a health bar
I love how ceave's channel has evolved into these quality, deep analysis videos of gaming as a whole and game design. That being said a video about crazy mario maker 2 contraptions, beating mario games while only crouching, or beating mario games without touching stinky coins every now and then wouldn't hurt :)
So, Legend of Peach: Mario between Worlds?
Lol
I just found this vid and scrolled to find a comment similar! You beat me to it!
that's genius
Super Paper Mario: Is a 2D Mario game.
Also Super Paper Mario: Is a 3D Mario game.
i scrolled down to leave this exact comment. Guess the paper mario series isn't considered mainline by Ceave.
But actually, paper mario is only a spinoff, it won't count. Only the genuine 2D and 3D marios are taken into account
Paper Mario is a different Mario, that is evident from Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam where we see both Mario and Paper Mario. But yeah, I agree that it does manage to mix the 2 and 3 dimensions
its a 2.3d game
Yeah but that was an really clumsy and also annoying mechanic. It can be done better
“I’ve never seen a second game be added as part of a remaster before” *points at xenoblade chronicles definitive edition, where the future connected “epilogue” feels like a different game with different playable characters, a new story, a new setting, and reworked combat*
Bowser's Fury and Future Connected have a lot in common!
Abridged smaller bonus games
Use assets from main game
Explore new ideas
Point towards future of their respective franchise
And, honestly, Future Connected was a really fun RPG since it *was* so short. I love these tight, smaller games, a very nice contrast to so many bloated AAA games these days.
@@zachb4561 I have my issues with fc and think its the weakest xenoblade “game” (also counting torna in there) but I still did enjoy it
Spider man miles morales as well
...the M&L RPGs...
We all have bad memories whenever we hear the Sweetpaper Valley music. All respects to Bobby the Bob-omb.
F
Uh, Fyrl, I like Paper Mario, but this is a Bowser's Fury video and NOT a Paper Mario one. You should've posted your comment in a Paper Mario video like this one: ruclips.net/video/EQrZX1lEKnc/видео.html
The different ways ceave pronounces the word "opinion" kills me everytime
4:34
"At least in my paninion"
I think that out of all the games I've played, the Galaxy games had the best movement. Even though the levels were very linear, it made it so fun to think outside the box, almost literally, to find even more fun ways to find a way to get around a large amount of the game while still not making it much easier. I really hope that SMG3 will be an open world style game with checkpoints and launch stars to make it bearable to get from one side to the other.
Really brave of Nintendo do openly announce that Bowser is a furry.
Well he is half turtle half ox...
Yes, about 7 years ago with just the base game already 👀
Do people find this funny still? You guys do realize that bowser is the ONLY enemy that isn’t a cat, right?
@@ohyeah2066 It's not about being a cat, it's a joke about the title...
@@ohyeah2066
In Bowser's Fury, yeah, but the original 3D World introduced cat bowser, thus this meme.
As to why people see the need to make the same joke again with it's release and act as if it hadn't been done a thousand times before, I don't know either.
ceave: the game fails to stay at even 10 fps during bowsers fury,
me, struggling with 2 fps in every other game while bowsers fury runs perfectly fine:
True when i play Minecraft I have on my computer i have at best 7 fps (no stabilisation mods)
@@IDKisReal2401 Minecraft on the Switch definitely isn't running at 7fps
@@IDKisReal2401 dude you either need to lower your render distance or stop building 10x ilmango farms.
same with me
@@Taolan8472 I have my render distance set to 4 and do only have a small farm
7:08 That game freak roast is so harsh yet so accurate.
This is the most excited I think I have ever been
Ceave is the only one genius enough to see behind the curtain
*Arlo wants to know your location*
I can't believe ceave didn't mention how ink luigi is a copy of fake mario, the cat shines are copies of shines, the individual lighthouses that chase away corruption are copies of the shine monument in sunshine that illuminates the island, ...
@@YounesLayachi well, he started off by saying this video wasn't gonna be about the problems of the game, right?
@@PeboPz those are just similarities not problems, ceave listed other similarities in the video
@@YounesLayachi No need for exhaustive list, he got the point across that's enough
I really want to see Nintendo do more releases like this. Take an old classic, and make a new, more experimental title using the existing assets, and release it as a pack. Imagine a Zelda Hero of Time collection, with both Ocarina and Majora, but a new, third game meant to complement the two and tackle experimental gameplay concepts.
I appreciate the continuity of still having the tinfoil cat hat on the wall.
I got Mario Maker 2 less than a month ago and I've already seen so many ideas from the community that you would never see in a traditional 2D mario game. Puzzle levels, troll levels, co-op levels, kaizo levels are things you can pretty much only get from the community and it makes you realize Nintendo only scratches the surface of the possibilities of 2D mario in their game, but I think they have no other option but to play safe when they want to appeal to a big audience.
7:07 Damn, Ceave! You had me bursting out laughing!
This game has many problems, and today we'll talk
about fuzzies.
In the early days of the 3DS there was this game called "crush". It would be a good inspiration for a new Mario game
Oh yeah, Crush3D, it was a fairly good game, they'd probably draw from A Link Between Worlds instead though.
I played the demo for that - it was really fun!
Can you explain the gameplay?
@@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 It was a 3D game but you could change the perspective and make it 2D, which would sometimes project things in a way, that they would come close together. Maybe watch a video about it.
@@peterv1054 So like Super Paper Mario?
Your videos have such characteristic feel to them and I love it. Your voice combined with the music is almost like a classic
It’s honestly amazing to see how far this channel has come. Wonderful video as always!
"I hope you enjoyed this LITTLE video"
Looks at time
I dont thing 23 minutes is "little"
*think
Not only it isn't little in duration but also isn't scarce in content
Damn I had no idea there was so much going on in this series. You did a great job highlighting the stark differences between the 2D and 3D games. That being said it's good to see Nintendo innovating a way to combine the 2 and give us something that we can all enjoy.
I look forward to seeing more of these short video essays man, this was really well done! 💎
**rants**
„But this video is not about that“
You had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I am heavily impressed with your fluidity in discussing these topics. It's easy to stumble upon switching to video essay formats after doing previous shot form content, but you've managed to do it a few times now. Well done
You’ve heard of 2d Mario. You’ve heard of 3D Mario. But what about..... 4D MARIO
even better, 1d mario
3.5d mario
pi-D mario
0D mario
I always search up "adventure meme" when I feel like hearing your intro/outro. "Adventure meme" is the theme of a legend
"We can either have beautiful, state of the art graphics, or, we can have a new Pokemon game"
Truer words have never been said
Happy Mar10 everyone! :D
Mar10 day 😁
it's almost over say your goodbyes to mario
Say hi to binding of Isaac repentance
Ceave uploads:
My schedule:
Ight, imma head out
Ceave's Videos are very entertaining
That jab at pokemon graphics though.
He is not wrong though.
The last time Pokémon graphics were welcomed, it was 2010 and RUclips was just about to be ruined for the first time.
really really well structured video, love how all the ideas here develop
I found Bowser's Fury far more fascinating than I had expected to. It is simultaneously strongly a sequel to 3D World (in fact, it is kind of a sequel to a specific item, the cat suit, in 3D World), while also obviously being a spiritual successor to Super Mario Sunshine, as we see with the use of Shines for (I believe) the first time since Sunshine.
This video really helps explain in what ways it was a successor to both 3D World and Sunshine at a gameplay level as well!
"We can either have state of the art graphics, or a new pokemon game"
The SHADE
8:32 Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions is a remake/re-release with an extra totally new gameplay mode added on.
bowser's inside story + bowser jr.'s journey: am i a joke to you?
though i understand that superstar saga + bowser's minions was first
Yeah, and xenoblade definitive edition has a whole new campaign.
I mentioned A Link To The Past on GBA came with Four Swords.
I love your channel so much! And the music is amazing😍😍 Thanks for making this. Danke schön!
Great video like always! I especially like the way you structure your videos. The little pieces of history are also really cool.
8:39
The remakes of mario RPGs
Ex: superstar saga, bowser inside story
Are challenge runs and Mario Maker contraptions not happening anymore? I love the video essays, but I'm starting to miss that classic Ceave content!
Same. I always thought of him as the Mario Maker science guy.
btw you feel super natural (not supernatural) in front of the camera lately, and im glad youre getting comfy with the new setup. genius analysis as always ceave!
Nice too see a new video again!
Also, That Information is really bonkers! 😙😅
at 20:12 i thought that was a real cat purr XD
I was hoping you would make a video on this game, I'll look forward to watching this.
Cant believe i found this channel again - first watched you when you probably only had like 20k subs - proud to see how far youve come
7:05 “It’s like with GameFreak, where we can either have beautiful state-of-the-art graphics, or a new Pokémon game.”
I laughed too hard at that
The ideas that Ceave proposed sounds like the perfect Mario games realized. Nintendo we need this!
Video: "today we're going to take a deep dive"
Me: checks video length
I absolutely love your analyses of these games. It‘s amazing to see how many parts come together to create such games and what the intention of Nintendo’s directors was.
Great video! I agree with everything you said. The gameplay is absolutely incredible in this game. I can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
I think it would be really cool to hear what you think about modern pokemon and how it could improve. Because right now it feels like nobody exept me is able to enjoy pokemon at all.
I enjoy romhacks
I still enjoy it, I just don't think it's as polished as the 2D titles like B2W2 or (in my opinion the most overrated 2D Pokemon) Platinum.
@@thegreatestdane8978 I agree that sun and moon kinda sucked, one of the more boring games. Although I enjoyed pokemon sword and shield a lot, I think it needs "side areas" to spice up the adventure, something like the dreamyard in b/w or the mansion near the start of x/y. I LOVED the sw/sh DLC, with crown tundra being my fav. Being able to explore a giant wild area with very little other than my curiosity to make me explore was a breath of fresh air from most of the isle of armor's fetch questing. This also solves my issue with "side areas" because if you wander off through the cave for example you just end up at a dead end with the temple for the new regis.
i mean i did have fun with ultra sun but ehhhh
not as good as the earlier games
it was way too ez i literally only lost one time to ultra necrozma and thats it and that was because i suck ass
and im pretty sure the only reason i kept playing postgame was cuz i got wonder traded a mew
like it was fun but really the content after the whole ultra necrozma and becoming the champion stuff sucks and before that is all way too easy
I didn’t know what you meant about Pokémon. Then I got an ad about it
These videos are so well made! Well done Ceave. Well done
the videos always leave the main point, and then go back to the main point and i love it
i love this new style of video, cuz im kinda burnt out on mario maker
good vid as always ceave
Ceave Gaming: No new 2D mario game in 8 years.
Super Mario Maker: Am I a joke to you?
right, mario maker is basically nintendo licensing out their 2d mario content to fans to create their own levels. though i guess nintendo isnt making (most of) the levels on that game (though they did make the story mode and the title screens)
@@Ylurple they also make ninjis!
@@Ylurple except without 90% of the 2d mario content, because how else are they gonna make 5 more mario maker games
Mario maker is not a genuine 2D mario, it's a spinoff
The framerate thing was only a problem for me in handheld mode. I don’t remember any dips in tv mode, but in handheld mode you got 20fps at best
Weird, it lags more in TV for me. I never lose any frames with handheld.
the framerate is horrid when the bowser goes rawr
No lag on PC😎
Happy MAR10! Love your vids, you're one of my favorite youtubers
I love this video! Keep up the great work man!
That "Next step" was a perfect description of Super Paper Mario.
I was also thinking about that. Super Paper Mario is 2D and 3D at the same because everything is mostly 2D but the special feature makes it so you move like in a 3D environment
The saddest thing about Bowser’s Furry is that I think that it means that we won’t get another full 3D Mario experience for quite some time from now.
Doubtful, it wasn’t even big enough to get its own game, it likely wasn’t that much work to put together either since it reuses so much
@@bigflx2754 But not only did we get Bowser's Furry, but 4 other 3D Mario game remasters in the span of just a few months. It's giving me the impression that Nintendo's next big Mario game isn't coming for awhile and these are just appetizers.
@@nickk3077 those were not remasters lmao those were roms running on an emulator. Remember this was an anniversary thing, thats why there was extra Mario, but all the Mario they gave out was low effort. It’s been 3 years since the last new 3dmario. It usually takes 3-4 years for a new 3D Mario. We’re due I don’t think there will be one in 2021 but in 2022 or 2023 for sure we’ll see a new one
like you said, Bowser's Furry seems to be an appetizer, but the full meal can still arrive soon. I think Bowser's Furry might be like MGSV: Ground Zeroes - a solid, fun, but short experience that transitions a franchise into a more open world format. Hopefully, the next Mario game will be like The Phantom Pain - fully openworld, fixing the issues of the Bowser's Fury, and containing a much long and even more enjoyable experience.
edit: i actually watched the video and nevermind lol
@@bigflx2754 I keep on getting in trouble with people on the internet for misusing the words port and remaster. Like with Skyward Sword being a port, when it’s actually a remaster. This terminology is just too much.
It's so weird that you and Arlo both released videos about Bowser's Fury within a few hours of each other, but I'm certainly not complaining.
1. Great video Ceave, I love your take on things.
2. I would be so happy if the next 3D Mario game followed something like bowsers fury and/or bridging the gap between 3D and 2D like you suggested.
3. Also a third point, to your point of bowers fury combining all the 3D games and how Mario Odyssey sorta combined 2D and 3D, would be how the Nintendo Switch combined home and portable gaming.
I think it would be cool if Mario did something similar to Nier: Automata, where there’s open 3D sections, linear 3D sections, and 2D sidescrolling sections, with seamless transitions between each gameplay style.
Ceave is always describing his videos as 'silly,' but they actually have a use: they help aspiring game devs to design their games in a new light. Great video as always!
I don’t know by I havent seen your videos in a while(prolly bad algorithm) but ive really missed them and can wait to binge
i really hope they continue with this, ive been talking with my cousin about this since release but till watching this video i didt have a reason why it just was the best 3d mario game by far
2 years later
Nintendo: let's make a 2d Mario game.
Get yourself a partner who loves you like Ceave loves the Origami King soundtrack
8:31
I actually just remembered, it happened with both remasters of the Mario and Luigi games!
Man I miss the Mario and Luigi games...
4:35 “In my *pininion* ...”
Lol, ima start using that.
"This game has many problems, and in this video we will talk about
*none"*
_What the fu-_
Fury
that's a twist
Top 10 plot twists in movies
-zzy
what the fury
“It checks all the boxes on nintendo’s annoying habits list”
And that list is?
Dunno what he meant, but for me I take issue with enemies just standing still or just patroling areas you can avoid, collectibles feeling kinda meh, areas being designed for one power-up only, not having a good replacement for extra lives (no the odyssey system wasn't that good) or not properly balancing the extra life-system, having the difficulty on certain areas being centered on "don't fall or you will have to climb up again!" stuff etc.
Dull challenges, repeated challenges, repeated boss fights, easy boss fights, and lag
WE ARE NOT TALKING IT TODAY
pretty sure he was referring to stuff like how nintendo shuts down their fanbase when they try to do something with their game (such as with the smash tournament a while back) and their vicious stance on bugs (the way they likely messed up the catsuit in SMM2 by changing the way it works, to combat the possibility of the momentum bug with it in 3D land(or was it world? never played em))
@@DarkZide8 Odyssey System made sense in Odyssey where there was actual uses for Coins, and you could easily slip up and die a whole lot. All that lead to a kind of meaningful punishment. It means if you mess up a bunch you'll just have to spend a little extra time to get that Bone Mario or whatever you're looking forward to.
It just doesn't work in Bowsers Fury because
1. You've got so many powerups that you basically never die at all
2. Because you die so rarely and get so many coins, you will never end up in a situation where you're tight on coins so there'S no point where having a coin penalty in place is relevant
3. Coins don't matter anyway there's like 0 uses for them
I was hoping you'd do a video on bowser's fury, thank ya!
idea: a Mario exploration game but you have a "dimension transporter" where you can take shortcuts by going through new dimensions. The dimensions will be platforming challenges with cool gimmicks (for example in one dimension it could be a platforming challenge, but you can reverse time around you, or maybe a 2d dimension with a small boss battle ) But instead of going through dimensions to take a shortcut the star/ moon / whatever. You also have to option to explore and find it normally like in odyssey. This idea also gives Nintendo to option to have much more unique level designs and adds replayability to the game because you can explore the levels you took the shortcut in and you can take the shortcuts through levels you already explored.
Ceave, can you make a video describing your final thoughts and memories you had with Super Mario Maker Wii U before it’s gone forever as a goodbye?
When? Where?? Who??? Why????
@@Flymerick If you didn't know, March 31st is when Nintendo is removing core features from Mario Maker on Wii U, including the ability to upload levels and bookmarking levels from the website. It's quite sad because the game is very special to me and I am sure that Ceave can agree with me.
@@nickk3077 Source?
@@nickk3077 No YOU'RE crying.
@@Jake28 I tried to post a link and apparently got shadowbanned, so just search for "Super Mario Maker for Wii U discontinuation" on Nintendo's website. Note that it will still be possible to play courses that were uploaded prior to the discontinuation.
Hi Ceave! Hope you’re having a great day so far!
i really liked how they did power-ups in fury. every one feels useful for different scenarios and they aren’t impossible or annoying to find and can be stored for whenever is appropriate
I just binged the entirety of Bowsers Fury last night, happy to see this video
"have mario change the environment to craft a 2d path" Isn't that just super paper mario?
Really I hope this is a test run before we get a massive open world mario game.
@@theAstarrr 😲
@@theAstarrr but it also has plenty of super sentai references
So well written and narrated. You deserve an academy award
OH GOSH That's such a good idea!! Combining all genres of Mario! Maybe even more genres will be combined in future, such as Mario Maker and Mario Kart and so forth... 🤔
I sure hope they do this again in another Mario game, tbh.
Ceave: Nintendo should make a Mario game where you can switch from 2d to 3d
Super Paper Mario:
Am I a joke to you?
Paper Mario series is a spin-off plus it's not Nintendo who makes them
Odyssey lol
You consistently create amazingly well-produced and thoughtful, in-depth content. Nintendo should hire you for your ideas.
When I first saw Bowser's Fury, I was like "Wait, so it's like Odyssey but with the 3D World engine?"
I didn't notice the paradox of that sentence until now.
Ceave: "Super Mario Sunshine.."
Music: * Zelda Music intensifies *
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds.
I really liked this video, nicely structured :)
Awesome video! I like how you still call a 20 min video essay a "little video" :)