For when RUclips removes RUclips polls as of 09/06/2020 the poll results are: Hammer bro: 27% Cheep cheep: 6% Fish bone: 65% Disagree: stupid list: 3% 19/06/2020 to poll results show that RUclips can't do maths even more than before: Hammer bro: 27% Cheep cheep: 4% Fish bone: 65% Disagree: stupid list: 3%
@@h20deliriousfan82 yep, didn't know they got rid of them yet but there is no 'i' in the top right of the vid so that means they got rid of them, you'd swear RUclips want to make everyone dislike them.
@@antilles58 eh, hilarity alone is not enough for 5 fuzzies, but definitely more than 1. (I'd give'em 3, if only because of how hilarious DGR's reactions are)
Cheep cheep is one of the rare enemies that drops down the “?” Block once you hit it. This feature is quite useful in trolling people so I think cheep cheep deserves 2 fuzzies.
@@jclkaytwo objectively mean based on external metric, opinion is based on internal metric, you can build external metric from internal metric, that is every objective measure has some degree of opinion based on them, like einstein said (paraphrasing) "you can't judge a fish based on his ability to climb a tree", that is climbing is the objective measure, judging a fish on that is opinion.
If one fuzzy is worth five fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 25 fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 125 fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 625 fuzzies... Basically, fuzzies are the solution to the energy crisis.
@@david_ga8490 and dont interact with anything. Spike balls interact with things. You can build above a block with a fish, but cant with a block with a spike in it. This makes cheap cheaps better.
Something to mention about Spike Tops: They are immune to fireballs, which gives them a niche use in spin jump courses. If you want to make a spin jump course that also has fire flowers in it, you can use Spike Tops on Munchers or tracks and not have to worry about players accidentally killing their platforms.
“Toad finds himself in front of a hammer bro, toad doesn’t like hammer bros, so toad decides to commit hammer bro homicide.” Never change ceave, never change
They can be used as a temporary bridge and can go through walls, with makes them easy to use as a transportation gimmick. 4 fuzzies. (P.S. add fuzzies nintendo!)
14:37 I think that buzzy beetle shells are better because when shot out of a blaster, you can ride them like a train (this also allows for crouch detector contraptions, one that I made is 55B-B4O-WXG).
Probably because 3D World is more difficult to build complex contraptions (and also because it's a special game mode with different enemeis and existing enemies the behave slightly different)
In the Item Review video, he said that he won't cover 3D World exclusive objects, since he wants to cover them in a different video. Presumably, this applies to enemies such as Ant Troopers.
I'd argue that Hammer Bros don't work. They are random and add frustration. At least the Fish Bones don't add frustration. I'd say that's a plus to the Fish Bones.
@@malcolmgruber8165 I mean you could try & do something with Hammer Bros in every stage whereas you can only try to do something with Fishbones in Water levels & nighttime air ships. Maybe poison & lava levels but I don't know for sure.
C: Fishbone: They can’t do anything in terms of gizmos and can barely be considered enemies when not underwater. Their winged variants are a nice challenge I guess, but other than that they have nothing going for them. Also, I think wigglers should be ranked higher. One thing people often forget about these enemies is their underwater counterpart. When angry, they home in on you and retreat (faster and with a longer retreat when winged). Their normal winged variant also is apparently useful for making fire snakes, but since you can jump on them I’d just consider them their own thing.
@@SirTell The joke was that them peeing on themselves, something that's clearly a bad trait, *instead* is an excellent trait. Thus, by you bringing it up, you're helping him win. Also, they have weird eyes and one time they bit my hand where it bled. Note: Any and all rumors that it had bit my dad's fist and made *HIM* bleed first, and that I was wanting to see if it would happen to me, ARE ALL LIES.
Yeah I fuckin hate fish bones. Whenever I eat fish they always prick the inside of my mouth. Oh we’re talking about the enemy? Yeah they’re pretty annoying.
Well you don't actually need the moon to have night theme, it seems you just need to convert the sun to unlock the switch in the menu for night theme, then you can put the moon away and never touch it again
I’d rate Hammer Bros higher, they make a good challenge when you need one... as long as you don’t use too many at once. So my rating would be 2.5/5 They’re a decent challenge to defeat, but a bit unreliable in any contraption other than a randomiser.
Hammer Bros' random elements are a negative addition while Cheep Cheep's basicness is an extremely small positive edition and Fish Bones' nothingness is a zero addition.
Thing is, negative additions can't exist since not using an enemy gives it a zero addition by default. Hammer Bros. have a positive addition but only in specific cases.
Damn, Ceave is not spreading complete blind hatred towards Hammer Bros. for once? What a great character development! I can't believe he's come this far since his early days.
@TartaKoopa I was both surprised but very happy too about this! I feel like Ceave gives them less credit than they deserve of course I don't blame him after the "accident". They actually work the best when used with Ceaves favorite enemy, because shells can block the hammers very well!
Ferila He has always thought of them as the same enemy though. Even by the end of this video (around the 15:40 mark) he shows a Sledge Bro in the footage and a Hammer Bro in the tier list.
Hammer bros are not MENT to be hit from above like it was shown in the video. They are ment to be skipped or killed from below and on the side. Also the RNG of Hammer bros is gone when winged. With Fishbones being useless, that is also not true, they are VERY bad cheep (cheep) deaths on land if placed properly and can be WORSE than any one hammer bro can. So, Fishbones are useless or the bane of your existance. And hammer bros are a specially enemy. T.L.D.R: If used wrong, Hammers are worse and if used right fishbones are. It's just wrong is more likely with SMM
The hammer bros saving grace for me is how their hammers interact with the shelmet. The shelmet can negate the randomness a bit and it feels tremendously satisfying to stand below a hammer bro and just let the hammers bounce off.
10:20 BUT! Night airship levels! Yes, in that case, the fish bones are the BEST enemy Not only goes fast while the other enemies go slow It also homes exactly at mario! being a very difficult enemy to fight to
Well even if they are good in this scenario, they lack usefulness in every other scenario, and it's not like every level you make will be a night airship level (unless you do)
Rocky Wrenches can be useful when trying to recreate a beach theme level. Stacking a buzzy beetle on top of them gives them a similar enough appearance with an identical mechanic. That usefulness alone would promote them up a star for me, even if I won’t use them that much elsewhere.
The wrigglers optimism towards the world in general just makes him a brighter person! That’s why he has a build in flashlight when it’s dark (ghost house/ underwater night theme)
The savior of the fish bones and cheep cheeps is the night airship theme. They can be used as uniquely moving platforms and are even better with wings.
Also they act as great platforms that disintegrate from contact with solid objects. I created a level with rising poison and a an upward facing pipe that fires a dry fish. Because they break on contact, it means the frame to jump on one in that situation is very tight. (I have it a parachute to give the player more time to react. I'm thinking of remaking all my levels with their originally intended designs some day.)
I tried to make a night time castle level where fish bones would swim around only to find that they can’t even swim in a night castle. Darn you fish bones!
Cheep Cheeps are useless and Hammer Bros. are annoying, but I can't imagine Mario Maker without them. Now, Fish Bones? Completely useless and forgettable.
Fishbones quickly getting pooped out of a red pipe as Mario tries desperately to go in is pretty funny in troll levels. Cheep Cheeps in ? Blocks = iconic troll meme. Hammer Bros just plain suck.
Sometimes, there are things worse than nothing. For Fish Bones I can think of niche use cases, like detecting water level, or dispensing an item inside a block via a question block (item inside the Fish Bones inside the question block), but hammer bros are just plain bad. Their only use is annoying people, as well as making good levels bad. Hammer Bro's have ruined more levels than Fish Bones, change my mind. Edit: Grammar
When I first played Mario Maker, I was upset that munchers were no longer static blocks like in SMW (mostly because of gravity). That was until I realized that they were basically blocks that interacted with the world and became one of the best enemies in the entire game.
I actually really like the hammer bros because of their role in a standard mario level. I mean no offense by this, but usually dealing with hammer bros is not an rng issue as much as it is a skill and patience issue. Hammer bros force the player to slow down and approach them from a specific angle. It's like a mini-miniboss. It's a really good challenge that tests your intuition regarding enemy patterns and your precision when jumping. You either jump high while they are throwing a low hammer so you can catch them before they throw the second one, or you run under a high hammer and do a short hop to catch them in time. It forces the type of player who just blasts through levels to slow down and plan out their actions. The hammer bros make perfect checkpoint gaurds, after getting halfway through a level it feels especially rewarding to grab a checkpoint after defeating a difficult enemy(s). Like I said, it helps you make a mini-miniboss without having to build a whole seperate room. It helps keep your level difficult while allowing you to save space for contraptions for later on or for the main gimmick.
smm1 made two huge mistakes with the fish bone -- making it replace dry bones underwater, and giving it the stupid nsmbu behavior in all styles. smm2 fixed the first one; it is finally possible to use dry bones underwater. as to whether we will ever have fish that move horizontally but are immune to fireballs... maybe smm3?
I honestly like cheep cheeps because of a couple reasons: 1. They ignore any type of ground/block making them excellent for troll levels as they can be used in different ways there, such as in a ? block to fall directly onto the player when the block is hit. 2: by putting a cheep cheep in night jungle theme poison gets applied, that Yoshi can eat and then spit out poison bubbles, which I believe is the only way to get Yoshi to spit out poison (could be wrong though)
Ida-Maree Sherman again, the fact that they die when touching is a good use. makes them a nice one-and-done hazard instead of waddling around or whatever after landing
Ida-Maree Sherman I mean, that’s still a good use, but they might still be around for a SHORT while after touching the ground, at least to my knowledge... but more notably, sometimes I don’t want the boom. Sometimes I just want a simple falling enemy that breaks when it’s done with no side effects
Agreed I am very disappointed he didn't include them. In my opinion 3D world bumps up Hammer bros to 2 fuzzies since Fire bros are super useful and unique.
@@robbiewalker2831 not just creative uses, but just uses in general, including how they function normally, hence why he mentioned the random throws of the hammer bro
I once made a Speedrun level with a kill Hammer Bro clear condition and it's been months without someone beating it once Edit: code is 0LN-PGQ-82H EDIT 2: I REUPLOADED IT AND MADE IT A BIT HARDER BY MAKING THE TIMER BE 50 SEC INSTEAD OF 60, HERE'S THE CODE [J94-S9G-3FG]
Munchers can't trigger bob-ombs. You might be thinking of the piranha plants from smb1, which don't look like piranha plants from other Mario themes, which could be why you confused them.
Good thing about Dry Bones is that the are pretty much like goombas. A simple enemie but instead of the goomba he does not walk of of platforms. And they dont drop their shell like Koopa so there is no fear of your stage concept getting messed up.
Galoombas don't walk off platforms, so I tend to use them instead of dry bones. But dry bones are nice if you want to have the player make a jump off of an enemy to reach a high platform or switch, but you want to give them an opportunity to try again if they fail (since they "respawn")
@@GoldiMoldiHoldi can you really count the moon as a enemy? Not even to mentioning that the moon's littarly a sub category of the sun, and he never included sub's exept during the valuation
Yeah, and then there's the fact that the definiton of the "best enemy" largely depends on whose side you're on, namely the player's or the level creator's (which can be more or less benevolent). If your goal is to make the level hard for the player (trying to be in Bowser's shoes, y'know), Hammer bros may turn out to be the best enemy :D
While the spiny shoots spikes when with wings, you can ride the buzzy beetles when they fly and when the shell are kicked
Agree, Parabeetle riding is a vastly more powerful concept than anything spiny has. It (or Thwomp) should have been the winner.
@@HazelFromSudoku but spinning on spinys that shoot spikes is no easy task.
Don't forget that the spiny shell, when worn can break overhead blocks
Actually, you can only ride buzzy shells when shot from Bill Blasters.
Spinies can have a use underwater
Obviously it's the Online Multiplayer
Dang thing barely lets you progress
*lets
yes
Unless you're actually good at the game
Jack Fitzgerald
When you get to A-S+ the lag is not as bad because only people without lag make it to those levels
yes
"Objectively represents in my opinion..." - Ceave Gaming 2019
Politics 100.
15:14 "Officially the best Mario Maker enemy ⁽ᶦⁿ ᵐʸ ᵒᵖᶦⁿᶦᵒⁿ⁾"
Speech 1000
For when RUclips removes RUclips polls as of 09/06/2020 the poll results are:
Hammer bro: 27%
Cheep cheep: 6%
Fish bone: 65%
Disagree: stupid list: 3%
19/06/2020 to poll results show that RUclips can't do maths even more than before:
Hammer bro: 27%
Cheep cheep: 4%
Fish bone: 65%
Disagree: stupid list: 3%
Wait they got rid of those?!!
@@h20deliriousfan82 yep, didn't know they got rid of them yet but there is no 'i' in the top right of the vid so that means they got rid of them, you'd swear RUclips want to make everyone dislike them.
Haha funny number
I never even knew there was RUclipsPolls
RUclips poll was a fun feature why did they do this... and now they want to take away captions
"we can't have favorites here"
Rates in fuzzies
pipiru lito why here why now
@@mateo_hassan now the re are
pipiru lito r/wooosh
7:55 he said favorite
@@canadaofficial8008 lol
> Cheep cheeps getting 1/5
*entire community of troll level creators unsubscribes*
Imagine hitting a ?-Block...
The most hilarious of enemies. Should have been 5/5.
@@antilles58 eh, hilarity alone is not enough for 5 fuzzies, but definitely more than 1. (I'd give'em 3, if only because of how hilarious DGR's reactions are)
Cheep cheep is one of the rare enemies that drops down the “?” Block once you hit it. This feature is quite useful in trolling people so I think cheep cheep deserves 2 fuzzies.
Barbarian wants to:
*Know your location*
The worst enemy is undoubtedly...
Shiny, yet deadly coins
and these small bowsers
Oof
Agree
200th like
Ouching spikes
And the worst Mario Maker 2 enemy is unsurprisingly,
Ad begins :
RUclips Premium
It's definitely shiny yet deadly coins. They and also slopes are the worst enemy.
🤣😂
BuT mY gUy SpInY dO bE a FiGeT sPiNeR tHaT iS ePiC
Well, you're not wrong...
Me when using google: “you have no power here”
(Coz with google, there’s no ads)
4:51 “winged Koopas with Wings” - Ceave Gaming 2019
Ugh, not again.
XD
Lmfao 😂
🤣🤣
Still not as bad as Hot Cocks.
Para-Para-koopas. They fly EVEN more!
"Objectively represents, in my opinion"
Oh, Ceave. Never change.
Honestly my favorite line out of all this. You could tell he knew exactly what he was saying.
In his opinion, the tl is objective. I don't see the contradiction
@@noobiesensei6281 "objectively" "in my opinion"
@@jclkaytwo objectively mean based on external metric, opinion is based on internal metric, you can build external metric from internal metric, that is every objective measure has some degree of opinion based on them, like einstein said (paraphrasing) "you can't judge a fish based on his ability to climb a tree", that is climbing is the objective measure, judging a fish on that is opinion.
@@NeoShameMan i honestly believe you're thinking too deep into this.
If Fuzzies where in the game would they be rated 5 fuzzies because they are amazing or one fuzzy, because there’s only one fuzzy 🤔
Top 5 questions scientist can't answer
it depends how many fuzzies their are.
@Ashton Fortenbacker?
I'd rate 5√3 fuzzies
If one fuzzy is worth five fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 25 fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 125 fuzzies, then one fuzzy is worth 625 fuzzies...
Basically, fuzzies are the solution to the energy crisis.
Nobody:
The Solataire Cards when you win:
2:54
Hahahha
Nice
2:54
@@Kkat-ui9wi 2:53
Ceave: "Cheep Cheeps have almost no use"
Troll Creators: *Unsubs*
HAHAHAHA I JUST GOT IT
Now Big spiky balls replaced it
@@david_ga8490 cheap cheaps give less reaction time
@@david_ga8490 and dont interact with anything. Spike balls interact with things. You can build above a block with a fish, but cant with a block with a spike in it. This makes cheap cheaps better.
Yeah, he kinda put something low because there annoying, but there made to be annoying.
Player: hits block
Cheep Cheep: G r a v i t y
People who throw you into lava in multiplayer are the worst enemies anyone encounters.
thats me :p
oh, that might be me
Of course i know him, he's me.
YOU CAN NEVER STOP ME!
Unlike the other replies, not me
The worst enemy is Nintendo for not adding beautiful Fuzzies to Super Mario Maker 2
Chargin' Chucks...
Poke are here
I didn't even realise they're not in the game. XD (but seriously you're right)
And the real SMW Bowser fight
Thats so right
Something to mention about Spike Tops: They are immune to fireballs, which gives them a niche use in spin jump courses. If you want to make a spin jump course that also has fire flowers in it, you can use Spike Tops on Munchers or tracks and not have to worry about players accidentally killing their platforms.
Ceave: we don't have favorites.
Also Ceave: munchers dont do much except for munching, therefore a perfect 5 out of 5.
Munchers are literally blocks that interact w the world
At the beginning he said "objectively [...] in my opinion". That moment I threw any expectation of objectivity off the window XD
Do one thing and do it well
It'd very good for contraptions tho
how dare you insult such a perfect boy
Ceave: thwomps are awesome. They can lag the game.
Me: yeah, that is so something I love about them. Nothing better than a ton of lag.
Ahem.... *it’s his opinion*....
You are gay
Poop butt face
lol
Umm... I'm pretty sure that is meant to be a joke.
"A tier list that *objectively* represents, in *my opinion* [...]"
Makes sense to me!
I mean it makes 100% sense on the internet
It's actually suprisingly simple
The worst Mario Maker enemy is-
RUclips: SHOVES AD THE SECOND HE'S ABOUT TO SAY IT
YES
the icecream spy gaming roblox (wow that’s a long name) true true
He chooses when the midrolls go...
He did that
Not youtube
The worst enemy is...
_ad plays_
RUclips Premium!
I actually got 2 unskippable ads right before ceave said the worst enemy. It sucked
The worst enemy is...ads.
I got Chromebook lul
what a coincidence
The worst enemy... is... *ihop ad plays* well that settles it.
Ceave: "We can't have favorites"
Also Ceave: *gives Hammer Bros 1 Fuzzy because they exist*
He did give justification for why, being that they are so heavily RNG based.
Honestly hammer bros are a lot less bad in smm2, they throw as much hammers anymore which makes them a lot easier to deal with
We can't have favorites but we can have least favorites
So true
he said nothing about anti-favorites
"you are the only enemy that cycles around"
Ant Trooper: Am I a joke to you?
lol
Although I do think he forgot about them, notice how there are only enemy's that are in every mario theme that he is ranking but eh your right
No he didnt go for the 3d world style
Yeah, but erasing the whole course when selected leaves 3D World with only 2 Fuzzies, with one for the extended moveset.
What is the Ant Trooper besides being 3D World's Spike Top?
"we can't have favorites around here"
*2 seconds later*
"everyone's favorite boy witch"
🤣😂
Ok lol
"Use cases." I love listening to Ceave talk about Mario Maker like he's programming. He brings a wonderful level of professionalism to the craft.
It actually is in a way programming; Mario Maker is just a programming language with a really weird IDE. At least to my thinking!
“The worst enemy in my opinion is, unsurprisingly,: ad begins”
happened 4 me 2 :'(
Not me
"The worst enemy in my opinion is, unsuprisingly: Tik Toc"
Stolen comment
@@clayjeter7075 shut up, there are children here!
"This is all my opinion"
"I can't have favorites"
"Hammer bros"
"Objective."
"The"
"That's suprisingly simple!"
"Objectively the best and the worst in my opinion"
3D world be like: AM I A JOKE TO YOU
Yes 3D world is a joke
@@honeyleaf2499 wow harsh
“Toad finds himself in front of a hammer bro, toad doesn’t like hammer bros, so toad decides to commit hammer bro homicide.”
Never change ceave, never change
why not
commit hammer bro suicide
[i don't like toad because the princess is in another castle]
@@nogodcansaveyou lol
Quite right. I like the way Toad shook his head when he said "Toad doesn't like hammer bros".
Fortnite is better than Minecraft
@@GRUBK1LL3R_21 I personally agree
Wigglers are useful in night ghost house, they shine a spotlight in front of them.
Java Cuber that’s maybe why he put 2 fuzzy, but this in very situational
And Underwater
Cheep cheep has a use. It's kind of a Meme in Troll Levels
In trolll levels Cheep Cheeps are fireballs in a nutshell
Was about to comment that
They can be used as a temporary bridge and can go through walls, with makes them easy to use as a transportation gimmick. 4 fuzzies. (P.S. add fuzzies nintendo!)
Fishbones also have a place in troll levels. But hammer bros don't. Fishbones are far superior.
fish in a block
14:37 I think that buzzy beetle shells are better because when shot out of a blaster, you can ride them like a train (this also allows for crouch detector contraptions, one that I made is 55B-B4O-WXG).
and you can shell jump, which you can't do with spineys for obvious reasons
I hope nintendo contacts you some day for adding new things and improvements in the game.
Defnitly Fuzzys will get added
And any time you die from a P switch turning bricks into coins, there's a voice clip saying "Shiny, yet deadly coins"
@@MrTheSteph1 fuzzies are kinda useless as we already have spinies that can be on rails, serving the same purpose as fuzzies.
what i wanna see get added are chucks from smw.
@@MrTheSteph1
They will have 10 fuzzys
Fish Bones are just so niche; at least Hammer Bros work in all the styles.
Speaking of, how come you didn't cover the 3D world enemies?
Probably because 3D World is more difficult to build complex contraptions (and also because it's a special game mode with different enemeis and existing enemies the behave slightly different)
In the Item Review video, he said that he won't cover 3D World exclusive objects, since he wants to cover them in a different video. Presumably, this applies to enemies such as Ant Troopers.
It's fun seeing fish bones die though
I'd argue that Hammer Bros don't work. They are random and add frustration. At least the Fish Bones don't add frustration. I'd say that's a plus to the Fish Bones.
@@malcolmgruber8165 I mean you could try & do something with Hammer Bros in every stage whereas you can only try to do something with Fishbones in Water levels & nighttime air ships. Maybe poison & lava levels but I don't know for sure.
I didn't even know the Fish Bone existed. That's how useless it is
When I found out about the Fishbone I was at a loss. *_"What do they do? And is that all?"_*
ikr
It Is Useful For Goal Timers
Jacob Grim they were?
@@dominickcimarrusti9677 Yeah you had to shake the Dry bones in MM1
"We can't have favorites around here"
Fuzzies: yeah...... *slowly backs off*
Night mode wigglers are fun. They'll follow Mario after he jumps on them once, even if he's right above them. You can fly with them that way.
I just made a level of this. I hate my new level.
mine was The 69th like
Wigger
Ok! I Give wiggled 3 Fuzzies out of 5!
4:17 "The only enemy that cycles arou-"
Ant trooper from 3D: Not so fast
And Ant Troopers are actually slightly better than spike tops because when you jump on an ant trooper, neither you nor the ant trooper takes damage.
The only enemy that cycles around in the 4 normal styles
lol
Ya ya, he forgot SM3DW enem9es, THAT FOOL!
*enemies lol
Enem9es
C: Fishbone: They can’t do anything in terms of gizmos and can barely be considered enemies when not underwater. Their winged variants are a nice challenge I guess, but other than that they have nothing going for them.
Also, I think wigglers should be ranked higher. One thing people often forget about these enemies is their underwater counterpart. When angry, they home in on you and retreat (faster and with a longer retreat when winged). Their normal winged variant also is apparently useful for making fire snakes, but since you can jump on them I’d just consider them their own thing.
The fish bones are actually useful when making "acid rain" scenerios
A muncher is like a platypus. Does not do much, but is perfect.
Goats are the perfect ones. Fight me.
@@SirTell He told you to fight him, not provide him with a free win.
Munchers. They don't do much, but they constantly save _-the Tri-state Area-_ Mario Maker
Hah hah
@@SirTell The joke was that them peeing on themselves, something that's clearly a bad trait, *instead* is an excellent trait. Thus, by you bringing it up, you're helping him win.
Also, they have weird eyes and one time they bit my hand where it bled.
Note: Any and all rumors that it had bit my dad's fist and made *HIM* bleed first, and that I was wanting to see if it would happen to me, ARE ALL LIES.
Hammer Bro is the “worst” and Fishbones are the most “useless” imo
Ikr
Yeah I fuckin hate fish bones. Whenever I eat fish they always prick the inside of my mouth.
Oh we’re talking about the enemy? Yeah they’re pretty annoying.
Judged Hades I don’t think hammer bro is the worst, I’d consider him to be challenging or annoying
Fishbones would be useful if adding wings allowed them to work in the air.
Hammer bros make a good challenge tho in traditional levels so I’d say two fuzzies
5:27
Thanks for rating the best Smash character with a good score.
The Logster huh, didn’t see dark pit on the list
John Smith there’s a reason for that
Waluigi for SMM3!
Lol, I'm piranha plant main
Didn't see Mii Brawler on the list...
Ceave: And the worst enemy is...
RUclips: ADS!
i did not have an ad
@@hratchkutukdjian2366 lol
@@hratchkutukdjian2366 RUclips premium
You haven't thought of the moon when you rated sun cause night effects are cool
Ah, but is it an Enemy?
@@mice_kiNg14
Well, it's in the enemy wheel
It's more of a powerup than an enemy.
Well you don't actually need the moon to have night theme, it seems you just need to convert the sun to unlock the switch in the menu for night theme, then you can put the moon away and never touch it again
Rachel Bailey gets the super [B] but the clown car counts???
“We cant have favorites here”
*Rates in fuzzies*
*Puts hammer bros at bottom*
I wouldn't blame Wiggler if he got angry.
Almost everybody hates hammer bros
@Killor Fire Shocking maybe but still pretty usless on my opinion
I’d rate Hammer Bros higher, they make a good challenge when you need one... as long as you don’t use too many at once.
So my rating would be 2.5/5
They’re a decent challenge to defeat, but a bit unreliable in any contraption other than a randomiser.
Marshachu Megalovania I agree with you
But let’s all admit that fishbones are complete and udder garbage
Nobody:
Solitaire cards on Windows XP when you win: 2:54
I was thinking the same exact thing!
Theres another kind of scene like that in Ryu's video
69th like
*Niiiccceeee!*
@@jada_9827 haha, 69! This is the sex number correct? Oh my life im laughing so hard right now 😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣
2:17 if a big goomba has a key, you will only get it when the two smaller goombas it spawns die, along with it
0:00 "Super mario maker 2"
*actually plays smm1 like a boss*
What a chad
@@jada_9827 what if its a boi
@@TitanGenericGod futa maybe? LUL
Cow can you tell? It is just the smm theeme
@Marco Presti
It’s Barbecue
Hammer Bros' random elements are a negative addition while Cheep Cheep's basicness is an extremely small positive edition and Fish Bones' nothingness is a zero addition.
Thing is, negative additions can't exist since not using an enemy gives it a zero addition by default. Hammer Bros. have a positive addition but only in specific cases.
@@natnew32 Adding a Hammer Bros. actively makes an enemy interaction worse though. That's why it's a negative addition.
Well yes, but that can be true for almost anything. The optimal use for the HB in that scenario is to not use it, which makes no difference overall.
@@natnew32 Yes but I'm saying when you add any if those three enemies in an average situation you get those results.
also giant cheep cheeps are great for trapping question mark blocks.
Damn, Ceave is not spreading complete blind hatred towards Hammer Bros. for once? What a great character development! I can't believe he's come this far since his early days.
It's never been against hammer bros, only slege bros
@TartaKoopa I was both surprised but very happy too about this! I feel like Ceave gives them less credit than they deserve of course I don't blame him after the "accident". They actually work the best when used with Ceaves favorite enemy, because shells can block the hammers very well!
Ferila He has always thought of them as the same enemy though. Even by the end of this video (around the 15:40 mark) he shows a Sledge Bro in the footage and a Hammer Bro in the tier list.
Sledge Bros are ok. But Hammer Bros are the problem
@@SirCorvid didn't you help Ceave with something very similar _and_ got a shout out as well?
'Goombas are the only enemy to split in two'
Slimes from minecraft: sad slime noises
Fish bones are darn useless but hammer bros can ruin a level just by themselves.
0 > -1
Hammer bros are not MENT to be hit from above like it was shown in the video. They are ment to be skipped or killed from below and on the side. Also the RNG of Hammer bros is gone when winged. With Fishbones being useless, that is also not true, they are VERY bad cheep (cheep) deaths on land if placed properly and can be WORSE than any one hammer bro can. So, Fishbones are useless or the bane of your existance. And hammer bros are a specially enemy.
T.L.D.R: If used wrong, Hammers are worse and if used right fishbones are. It's just wrong is more likely with SMM
Fish bones are usess on non water levels
@@jilloliver6685 ye i said that
Cheep Cheep have their uses in troll maps. No troll map is complete without a cheep cheep in a '?' Block
I agree its one the troll level staples along with invisible blocks above pits, misdirecting arrows and sniper thwomps
especially night forest
Blue Ninja a random lava bubble replaced it
I like to use Fish Bones instant death as an aesthetic element or sound effect. It's cool and goth to have breaking Bones all over the place.
Not to mention, you can use them as missiles in any underwater level. It's a shame that they can't do the same thing on land.
@@blorgarmy2605 I feel like winged Fish Bones should work like they do underwater, it'd make them much less useless XD
I guess that is ok but you can do the same with Dry bones...
Blake Blast you cant tho?? Like if a dry bones hits a wall it doesn’t die it just turns around
@@Jru0119 Just Spawn a shell from a blaster to kill them....
I like how you go back to SMM1 videos in the past, those were the good times 😌
I like the idea of chain chomp post DLC. They're just like cannons but they don't shoot annoying cannonballs.
It would be pretty annoying if you had to buy the dlc though.
dewy dewback free update
or a free update?
Basically just 3d world boxes
@@cinemagoose but you can pick up and break boxes
The hammer bros saving grace for me is how their hammers interact with the shelmet. The shelmet can negate the randomness a bit and it feels tremendously satisfying to stand below a hammer bro and just let the hammers bounce off.
10:20
BUT!
Night airship levels!
Yes, in that case, the fish bones are the BEST enemy
Not only goes fast while the other enemies go slow
It also homes exactly at mario! being a very difficult enemy to fight to
But they're so niche..
Well even if they are good in this scenario, they lack usefulness in every other scenario, and it's not like every level you make will be a night airship level (unless you do)
under water levels are harder if there are fish bones(they are the hammer bros(i mean their annoyingness) of the sea)
Rocky Wrenches can be useful when trying to recreate a beach theme level. Stacking a buzzy beetle on top of them gives them a similar enough appearance with an identical mechanic. That usefulness alone would promote them up a star for me, even if I won’t use them that much elsewhere.
Title: whats the worst enemy in smm2?
Ceave: and the best enemy is...
The wrigglers optimism towards the world in general just makes him a brighter person!
That’s why he has a build in flashlight when it’s dark (ghost house/ underwater night theme)
1:04 “We aren’t going to discuss Bowser and Boom Boom”
You forgot Pom Pom, Bowser Jr. and Meowser
Pom Pom and Meowser are 3D World only which he did say he wasn’t doing so he only forgot Bowser Jr.
Well meowser is actually just bowser in another style
FriendlySpore same with pom Pom in my opinion
And the Koopalings, not that they existed back then
Pompom and meowser is a kind of boomboom and bowser.
He is forgot for bowser jr. and the koopalings
Ceave: Hammer Bros are too random.
Hammer Bro: That's... why I'm here.
"Objectively"
"In my opinion"
Sure.
The savior of the fish bones and cheep cheeps is the night airship theme. They can be used as uniquely moving platforms and are even better with wings.
Also they act as great platforms that disintegrate from contact with solid objects. I created a level with rising poison and a an upward facing pipe that fires a dry fish. Because they break on contact, it means the frame to jump on one in that situation is very tight. (I have it a parachute to give the player more time to react. I'm thinking of remaking all my levels with their originally intended designs some day.)
Then I'm sorry hammer bros 😢
I tried to make a night time castle level where fish bones would swim around only to find that they can’t even swim in a night castle. Darn you fish bones!
Rosa - Michael - Cristopher Mercedes You could try making it a Night Airship, where enemies have water traits but Mario doesn’t.
I think Mario is the only thing that can swim in night castle. You should try it with the airship at night.
Like Aaron says, only Mario can swim on the night castle, the enemies act as if it was an regular non water level.
Knight castle only has water physics for you, the airships has water physics only for enemys
I agree
Right as he was gonna say the worst enemy, I get an ad that says “the idea”
“Shells are the most important thing in the game”
Ground tiles: am I a joke to you
*shells can be ground tiles*
Nani?? Send a level code. Prove it!
*crap I’m broke I don’t have smm2*
Lmao
Ill send one in a couple of days
Cheep Cheeps are useless and Hammer Bros. are annoying, but I can't imagine Mario Maker without them.
Now, Fish Bones? Completely useless and forgettable.
It's not Hot Garbage Maker™ 2 without Hammer Bros. and Cheep Cheeps!
Fishbones quickly getting pooped out of a red pipe as Mario tries desperately to go in is pretty funny in troll levels.
Cheep Cheeps in ? Blocks = iconic troll meme.
Hammer Bros just plain suck.
I love Hammer Bros.
Yeah, Hammer Bros are at least a iconic enemy that, despite being awful, are a fundamental part of the mario world. Fishbones are just useless.
Sometimes, there are things worse than nothing. For Fish Bones I can think of niche use cases, like detecting water level, or dispensing an item inside a block via a question block (item inside the Fish Bones inside the question block), but hammer bros are just plain bad. Their only use is annoying people, as well as making good levels bad. Hammer Bro's have ruined more levels than Fish Bones, change my mind.
Edit: Grammar
When I first played Mario Maker, I was upset that munchers were no longer static blocks like in SMW (mostly because of gravity). That was until I realized that they were basically blocks that interacted with the world and became one of the best enemies in the entire game.
They are also blocks you can't touch, as well as blocks that disappear when a POW is triggered.
well.. spikes are basically the replacement for munchers
I actually really like the hammer bros because of their role in a standard mario level. I mean no offense by this, but usually dealing with hammer bros is not an rng issue as much as it is a skill and patience issue. Hammer bros force the player to slow down and approach them from a specific angle. It's like a mini-miniboss. It's a really good challenge that tests your intuition regarding enemy patterns and your precision when jumping. You either jump high while they are throwing a low hammer so you can catch them before they throw the second one, or you run under a high hammer and do a short hop to catch them in time. It forces the type of player who just blasts through levels to slow down and plan out their actions. The hammer bros make perfect checkpoint gaurds, after getting halfway through a level it feels especially rewarding to grab a checkpoint after defeating a difficult enemy(s). Like I said, it helps you make a mini-miniboss without having to build a whole seperate room. It helps keep your level difficult while allowing you to save space for contraptions for later on or for the main gimmick.
this is very true. the patterns are readable if you take your time, and they offer a tricky, but doable challenge.
Also, hammer bros are super nice in levels with yoshi in them because being able to pick up and spit the hammers out at them gives you more options.
Ceave: the worst enemy is...
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I didn't even know Fish Bones were their own enemy in the first place. That's how much they sucked.
In SMM 1 they were just an underwater version of dry bones that I barely knew existed
I thought they were a alternate to dry bone.
smm1 made two huge mistakes with the fish bone -- making it replace dry bones underwater, and giving it the stupid nsmbu behavior in all styles. smm2 fixed the first one; it is finally possible to use dry bones underwater. as to whether we will ever have fish that move horizontally but are immune to fireballs... maybe smm3?
R.I.P. them
5:53 - "The most circular dogs in the entire universe are all aROUND great to have"
That was a good one Ceave
that's...that's not what he said
@@fortnitesexman actually you're very right why the heck did i type this comment
@@westleyblakeslee3205 schizophrenia moment
3:42
Can we talk about how mario threads the needle here?
I honestly like cheep cheeps because of a couple reasons:
1. They ignore any type of ground/block making them excellent for troll levels as they can be used in different ways there, such as in a ? block to fall directly onto the player when the block is hit.
2: by putting a cheep cheep in night jungle theme poison gets applied, that Yoshi can eat and then spit out poison bubbles, which I believe is the only way to get Yoshi to spit out poison (could be wrong though)
Ok
Ceave: Which enemy is objectively the best?
Also Ceave: Spinies are the best, at least in my opinion
the fact that fish bones die when touching the ground but can still hurt mario before then make them fantastic ariel hazards.
Exactly. They are like a different twist on the icicle mechanics, but making it an ugly fish doesn’t really indicate “aerial hazard.”
Ida-Maree Sherman again, the fact that they die when touching is a good use. makes them a nice one-and-done hazard instead of waddling around or whatever after landing
Use it in night airship and it work perfect
Ida-Maree Sherman I mean, that’s still a good use, but they might still be around for a SHORT while after touching the ground, at least to my knowledge... but more notably, sometimes I don’t want the boom. Sometimes I just want a simple falling enemy that breaks when it’s done with no side effects
Ida-Maree Sherman this was... an argument? I just thought it was a discussion
I see this as an absolute win
Why can't we put munchers on the side and the ceiling of blocks like we can do with piranha plants??
Come on Nintendo!
@Hershey11 spikes are ugly though.
Because if you switch the blocks off or turn them into coins, they would fall mouth-down towards the floor.
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Eric Lee No bUt ThERe IS My THUmB tAPPinG iT.
Eric Lee No and btw that was just a joke
I don’t like how you discriminate against the 3D world enemies! I demand a list of those as well, or else, you are styleist!
I hope we'll get videos dedicated to this style.
Sure, it's a different style, but it still counts, so I'm with you.
Agreed I am very disappointed he didn't include them. In my opinion 3D world bumps up Hammer bros to 2 fuzzies since Fire bros are super useful and unique.
we all want it ceave
Got your comment to 100 likes
7:41 "Thwomps are really heavy hitters"
Please tell me I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Bruh
No, i noticed
I know,right?
i sall that chere up
Budumtiiiiisssshh
I want to have a muncher as a plant.
Bone fish don't add anything to most level types, but they're homing missiles in water levels. That makes them more than useless in my opinion.
He didn't mention that the fish bones charge while underwater though, unfair trial.
There’s not much to go for outside of that. He’s talking about the creative uses of the enemies, not how the enemies normally behave.
he didn't mention *anything* about underwater
@@robbiewalker2831 not just creative uses, but just uses in general, including how they function normally, hence why he mentioned the random throws of the hammer bro
I once made a Speedrun level with a kill Hammer Bro clear condition and it's been months without someone beating it once
Edit: code is 0LN-PGQ-82H
EDIT 2: I REUPLOADED IT AND MADE IT A BIT HARDER BY MAKING THE TIMER BE 50 SEC INSTEAD OF 60, HERE'S THE CODE
[J94-S9G-3FG]
Then, feel like a winner
Can i have the level code
If you give code I'll play the level on my birthday when I get the game
Share the level code...
@@goobergobber 0LN-PGQ-82H
7:07 The hammer bro looks like the one in pain here, even though toad has the sharp end of a hammer up his boot!
Piranha plants can trigger bob-ombs, which is useful for stages where the player has to stand in certain places in order to advance.
MAGA PLEX munchers can do that too though
Munchers can't trigger bob-ombs. You might be thinking of the piranha plants from smb1, which don't look like piranha plants from other Mario themes, which could be why you confused them.
prevideo prediction: cheep cheeps
edit: oh wait no i forgot about dead cheep cheeps
no one really blames you
I'm not even joking, I legitimately didn't even know they existed. I don't think I've ever seen anyone use them in a level
I think I've seen one level with fishbones used in them.
@PrototypeOfficial Or they played an enemy spam level.
Everybody seems to forget that they actually function as normal enemies in the nighttime Airship theme
Good thing about Dry Bones is that the are pretty much like goombas. A simple enemie but instead of the goomba he does not walk of of platforms.
And they dont drop their shell like Koopa so there is no fear of your stage concept getting messed up.
Dry bones are basically Inmortal, Walking Rocky Wrenches. They are Great overall
Galoombas don't walk off platforms, so I tend to use them instead of dry bones. But dry bones are nice if you want to have the player make a jump off of an enemy to reach a high platform or switch, but you want to give them an opportunity to try again if they fail (since they "respawn")
Whenever I see something with 'bro' at the end of it's name (Hammer bro, fire bro, ice [?] bro) all I can think about is "hammer bro homicide"-
"Fishbones do nothing"
Taking away powerups and then instantly dying is incredibly useful
NO!!!!!
@@goseygoseygamer8437 Yes. The ability to hurt Mario and then destroy themselves almost instantly allows very easy powerup removal.
They are also good on tracks to block you from going back through a door in a pink coin collection level
This. De-cheesing levels by stopping you going back through a door or pipe is a really useful trait.
They have enough niche uses to be a 2 in my opinion.
For munchers, you forgot that they also pop P-Switches
6/5 stars
6/5 Fuzzies*
Yea
Fuzzies*
Or 5 giant rainbow fuzzies
Ceave: that is ALL the enemies in the game!
Bully, Koopa car, piranha vine, pipsqueak:
Are we jokes to you?
*all 3D World enemies
He isn’t doing much with 3D Word yet since it’s so new. He will probably make videos about it in a year
@@GoldiMoldiHoldi thats because its an alt of Angry Sun
Ant trooper
@@GoldiMoldiHoldi can you really count the moon as a enemy?
Not even to mentioning that the moon's littarly a sub category of the sun, and he never included sub's exept during the valuation
Ceave: Super Mario 2D World is a myth.
Fish bones are pretty useful they can almost replace lava bubbles in bosses and they are good obstacles that fore you to go fast past red pipes.
The worst enemy is lakitu when they are throwing hammer bros/sledge bros
This deserves a like
The nightmares won't stop! HELP!
(Lakitu that Throws P switches on a brick floor and another one that throws Koopas
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast do you hate the human race that much?
While I don't hate Hammer Bros. (Specially when you have a mushroom or Yoshi), I also agree this enemies combined are just terrible.
Hammer bros are super annoying but at least they can interact with stuff. Fish Bones just break. I’d consider them even worse.
Yeah, and then there's the fact that the definiton of the "best enemy" largely depends on whose side you're on, namely the player's or the level creator's (which can be more or less benevolent). If your goal is to make the level hard for the player (trying to be in Bowser's shoes, y'know), Hammer bros may turn out to be the best enemy :D
But Fish Bones are actually good enemies in underwater levels, so 1:1
For the fact that you have to take in account both air, and water. Fishbones is worse as in over 1/2 the game it's useless.
This dude is like “Cheep cheeps for their general usefulness.”
God your killing me, please for the love of all that is holy put an end quote
@@amosa3234 *I completely agree*
Hi SANES
Or as I say
Perfection
"
Now you're all part of the quote!!
@@Absenteeee AND YOU TOO!!
Winner: Spiny. Loser: Hammer Bro