This Fault Will Very Likely KILL Your PS5! Failed SSD Controllers Are Inevitable!
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2023
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I hate how both modern PlayStation and Xbox consoles are basically time bombs because of the way Sony and Microsoft did their SSDs. It absolutely did not need to be this way, SSDs are just fine on PCs. But Sony and Microsoft botched things so badly that I kinda wish they had kept using mechanical hard drives instead.
Sony had the correct approach when they designed the PS4 (Pro). Just a simple bay, which allowed a swap of the mass storage.
Which Muppet thought it may be wise to solder it onto the mainboard?
@@jochenrudiger Either they're muppets or it's intentional. By the time SSDs start failing, Sony and Microsoft both know that a) the console is likely out of warranty and b) the user has likely accumulated multiple games that they wish to continue playing.
Planned Obsolescence, mate, plain & simple ... They don't want their users getting attached to a single console Gen for long ...
@@yewtewbstew547 It is time to establish laws against planned obsolescence. What a waste of resources
Planned obsolescence is the way of electronic manufacturers now. Not just gaming consoles
Hey Phil hope you and you're family are well and safe no more attempted break ins
Thanks mate, we're good. No one has been back so should be OK
what temperature do you set to desolder the SSD controller and air speed?
Another great fix! The SSD being soldered on is just cost cutting stuff and perhaps designed to force consumer to replace the system sooner rather than later. It's a shame these manufacturers dont make things more serviceable in that respect.
Cheers Chris! Yeah I agree, this is a disaster waiting to happen. I guess it's all part of the plan though. It means we need to replace the entire console (well most people would) if they fail...
Even if they didn’t solder it I have no doubt they would pair it to the console
great work ... wants to know hot ait temp do you apply and air
Nice fix! Do the SSD controllers go bad or is it a connection problem that can be solved with reballing? I watched so many of your videos I can’t remember if you already tried that
Still have my A01 ps3 and the gpu was never changed, and still runs like a beaut.
But I know for a fact this launch ps5 will brick sooner than later the components are so fickle.
Definitely mate
In my opinion we have Apple to thank for manufacturers increasingly soldering everything on. Also, something to think about: Hard drives were and continue to be superior to SSD's. They last forever. Properly stored drives from the 1980's continue to work fine. No hard drive was ever designed to *not* be connected by cable. SSD's have a limited number of writes and you're done. If you're lucky the device will become read-only. If you're unlucky all of your data is lost. For the hard drives that have failed on me due to head crashes, I've lost no more than 50 kB worth of data. But most have continued to work fine after 25 years until I e-wasted them due to lack of space. Soldered SSD's are the worst of all worlds. It's like bad caps that in actual fact ruin a computer, rather than just being an inconvenience. As soon as everyone started embracing SSD's we were doomed to have them become soldered into products and kamikaze the entire device. Or maybe device owners get wise and everybody learns to reball with ease.
Question for you, good sir, about how long do those SSD cards write for?
Hi Phil love the content mate I have a question I have an internal storage 1tb installed in my console I’ve had 2 ps5 and this worked all the way in the first one and now I had to take it out my new one a week ago as it would tell me to reinstall it but then I would and this message kept coming up so I can’t have the ssd in my ps5 any suggestions or ideas ?
Love the Alexa extractor 👌 what details do I need for a repair of you?
Which thermal camer are you using here?
I didn't have a bad SSD controller, but an SSD cache chip on one I have. Just got the liquid metal in today so I haven't changed it out yet.
Fingers crossed that will work for you mate. I've had a couple of cache repairs recently too
Hey Phil! What temp did you use on your rework station?
Another Cod3r Success story!
Hey Phil, I'm having a similar problem right now. My PS5 sporadically boots into safe mode. As soon as I want to select one of the 7 options where the PS5 restarts, it shuts down. When I try to turn it back on I get a 2-3 second BLOD. Sometimes I just have a long pulsing BLOD. It always varies whether it boots into safe mode or crashes again. I suspect it's the SSD controller. Do you have other ideas?
Does replacing the SSD controller keep the data on the SSD chips or do they have to be wiped and the firmware reinstalled?
Probably will be wiped. But you can re-install the OS through a USB.
Hi Phil
Recently I got a ps4 with a broken hdmi that I replaced and still did not show any picture
Checked the hdmi fuses and one was shorting but after I removed Mn86471a that short was gone
If I replace the Mn86471a will it display an image again?
Cheers 🙂
Realistically yeah it should do mate. It might have other issues like the ESD filters could be blown too
@@TheCod3r I meant to say ESD filters, of the four one was crosstalking (I think that's the term) but after I removed the chip it was gone
This video is a Load of Hot Air, Mate. 😆
Keep up the Good work! 😁
Wow that’s looks like headache 🤕 Phil, but I know you got it
Little bit lol. Thanks buddy
You're definitely right. They're dying dying like crazy SSD Controller Chips I'm seeing a lot of them
Morning, I’ve had my PS5 since release, I’ve had the plates off and fan out a few times to clean and all is good but in your opinion is it worth changing the Liquid Metal and checking for dry spots?
There's no need to replace it. Unless you have overheating issue's, leave it alone.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP cheers dude, Little louder than when I first bought it but not by much.
@@seantoon01 What fan does your PS5 have?
@@DeadPhoenix86DP no clue…. OG PS5 Disc Edition bought on release in 2020.
@@seantoon01 Remove one of the side panels. And check the fan.
There's 3 different models being used inside the PS5.
Delta, NMB, and Nidec. Delta is quiet one, and Nidec is the loudest one.
Thats why stick with v2 xbox one and ps3, no ssd issues :) only issue with ps3 is bluray drive so using an external hdd and play game direct from iso
Would it help in future to use M.2 drives to run games, and help reduce the read/write cycles on the on board SSD's, and limit it to just running the OS?
even with an M2 SSD added for additional storage, everything you download goes first trough the soldered SSD as "temp" files and then moved onto M2. So the soldered one will get worn out no matter what, maybe a bit less with an M2 installed from which you run the games but the heavy lifting will still be done by the soldered one.
@@ryutenmen It will only be used for firmware updates. Games can be installed onto the M.2 Directly. However SSD's have a pretty long life-span since they have no moving parts. Just Use M.2 only for games that should make the onboard SSD last a lot longer.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP you either are very misinformed and by extension you unknowingly spread misinformation, or you knowingly spread that misinformation; both are bad outcomes.
1) You don't know if that soldered SSD is of good quality.
2) everything that you download doesn't direct go to the M2 SSD - it goes through the soldered SSD as temporary files, then it gets moved to the M2 or external/USB ones. I've already said that in the previous message, you just chose to ignore it, then tried to contradict by adding no pertinent explanation.
That's how OS based systems works. Learn it.
@@ryutenmen Source???
@@DeadPhoenix86DP but before, are you able to build at least at the basic level a pertinent question that would warrant an answer?
Phil, you need to change your Alexa wake word, you’re causing havoc in my living room 😂
Who could have thought that thrashing a permanently-installed ssd would lead to drive failures?
Certainly not anyone who has ever learned anything about SSDs and write cycles.
Regarding a faulty LED cable as possible cause, you can just leave it unplugged to test; a PS5 does not require this cable connected to work.
at least SSD controller is not serialized to the MB like in MacBook's
You reflow or reball the controler ?
Complete replacement. A reball or reflow will only work if the solder balls have cracked
@@TheCod3r okey that a default of controler ? where can we find this ? Good job !
Is it right I’m hearing that the console shouldn’t be stood upright as the Liquid Metal drops to the bottom due to gravity?
Its not. I have mine vertical since day 1.
what's up brother hope your doing okay
this is the main reason why i skipped the ps5 on ps4 if the hdd got corrupted just replaced with any hdd 2.5 but now they made it so complicated for no reason they could make it replaceable one but nooooo how they do something good for us
alexa turn on the fume extractor .. no way :) thats mint
Consoles are getting worse and worse over the years, in the past we didnt have these problems, in the ps3, xbox 360, ps4 and xbox one in all revisions of all those consoles the hdd could be changed with no issues, in older consoles this was not necesary couse the little memory they had was for the simple operating system and it was not memory you could access and install stuff, they never failed couse they were simple. Now that they do fail we need them to be replazable, not like xbox which is a scam what they have done, the hardware itself the little chip ssd can be changed but the software part if you dont have a backup of the old drive and do it every update is probably unfixable, its such a pity with the series x being a so well made system and that it has a issue as big as that. Nice video Phil.
What’s good Phil
Good thanks mate, hope you're well
Hope you and you're family are well and safe no more attempted break ins
John what are you talking about bro
@johnhudson22 thanks bud, much appreciated. All good mate, safe and sound lol
@andrewmwalpole it's a long story mate, but basically I found someone mooching on my property at 1am while I was streaming
You should be nicer to your Alexa, when the machine uprising happens I want to be on Alexas good side 😂
Alexa repair my console.
ps3/ps4 masterrace..
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These consoles and several before them are designed to die..........
tipical nothing suprises me,with these console companys ,,xbox red light death was found out years after now sony starting to produce faults popping up,, when will these companys realise social media and youtube place to see all this , designers need to combat these issues and listen to main people who repair them take note sony , microsoft , nintendo, watch youtube, engineers videos, makes for a good watch plus, you can then see all the issues, in your designs, clearly sony now starting to get issues, they should make a console that you can upgrade easy ie, switch parts just like a pc,, how cool would this be, if they did upgrade ram,, cpu , ssd controllers , all swoppable on beds , and make parts available. they would sell more, and it would be a fad to keep consoles moving, people would spend more money on them, these people make more money onthe games, than the consoles. so why not.
I still don't understand why Sony decided to choose the soldered ssd route honestly, if you controller or memory chip dies your console is a funky e-waste
And that maybe exactly the reason why they did it…? Buying a new console makes the shareholders happy. Seems to be the path any consumer goods company is on, sadly.
Planned obsolescence
at least you can replace the damaged parts and the console still works, xbox series x have married the ssd to the mainboard, so if your ssd dies it's game over
Must say all content creator's start humble then when they get popular they don't respond to questions anymore and it's almost impossible to ask a question then feom my end also lose interest and hardly watch anyone more just facts
More the “sky is falling” stuff from you. Didn’t you learn anything from your LM claims?
Didn't you learn that I'm actually right on everything I've said?
Thanks for another great video TheCod3r. I have very similar problem. It boots up, i see PS Logo and black screen for a while before it shuts down. I can get into the Safe Mode. Could update firmware via 6th and 7th choices but can't rebuild database. It hangs if i try. I believe another SSD Controller issue.