I didn't know he was in this video, but it was a treat to see my old friend George C. Gray playing a part and also in the credits as a Production Assistant. RIP, old friend, I miss you.
An old timer I knew in Rush Springs Oklahoma worked at a saloon just west of my hometown that set on the line of Indian Territory and Oklahoma territory around 1900. It was the infamous and famous Blue Goose Saloon. It had a bad bad bad reputation, but actually only the two owners were the only people killed. They shot each other. Oh the old timers name was John Forman and he worked at a pool hall where I learned to shoot snooker. Pool became to easy and nobody ever played it when I was young. Only when they invented the small pool tables that fit in bars did pool make a come back. I was raised on a ranch just about a mile west of the Chisholm Trail and two miles east of the 98th meridian where the Blue Goose set and the where the West began. I'll never forget those days when I rode my pony down the draws and over the Oklahoma hills where I was born.
you want to feel the old west come to Clayton NM where my husband and I are right this minute staying at the Historic Hotel Eklund (just $75nt!). It has it's own saloon complete with bullet holes in the ceiling and the original giant old wooden bar where you can belly up right next to cowboys with hats and spurs Just watch out for the tumble weeds. They are so plentiful it's mind boggling We've traveled quite a bit in the west and this is the coolest place we've found
I would agree. I lived there for half a year and loved it, but it has a hard edge against "randoms" (outsiders) if you don't act right. I got along alright and loved the Plaza and all the other historic buildings (and Dick's Pub and Restaurant). I bought "Wildest of the Wild West" by Howard Bryan (who appears in this video) at Tome on the Range bookstore (near the cop shop, now an antique store). It's a great book and tells of some amazing events and personalities. I stayed a few nights at the Plaza Hotel (James Spader room on the third floor) which was great. The hot baths at Montezuma were the best.
My great grandmother was 109 when she passed in 98 and she lived in tombstone when she was a kid and she could remember good the adults talking about what was happening and she remembered hearing the gun fights at night. I really miss talking to her rip little granny.
New Mexico is the land of the first cattle and horse drives, ranches, vaqueros (real ones) mountain men, miners and the best indian fighters ever! Willian B
cimmaron is cool, but drive a little further north to Valle Vidal and take a left about 25 miles, buffalo calving in the the spring and many historic sites up in there. Awesome country and watch out for bear and cougar, FYI not advised to allow your pups to play with buffalo of any size, just awesome and my pup survived. I have friends stay in at the James and they did not sleep well, but then again they were nervous to camp up in the high country as well. Afraid of just about anything wild, I don't think anyone in that crowd owned a firearm, which is damn ignorant with predators all over and some have four legs.
I've spent many nites at the St James. Usually in Gov. Lew Wallace s suite. He wrote Ben Hur while he was there hiding out from Billy the Kid. I can honestly say on several occasions I would have to say I encountered strange things. It honestly is haunted or, maybe a portal to someplace else. I laughed at first. But, one nite in particular I got straightened out around 2am sitting out in the hallway not far from room 18. Something was there. Go there sometime. Good food & drink. And, the Double Eagle down in old La Mesilla is some of the best food I've ever had in New Mexico.Across the plaza is el Patio which used to be a local hotel-livery and jail. Billy the Kid was held there awaiting trial.
New mexico is beautiful beyond words, i am from jamaica originally and I came to the USA living in new york most of my life when I left there, I met a woman a native american from New mexico and went out there to live and i live there for about 2 1/2 years and it till this day its my favouriye state
Drive from Santa Rosa on back roads to Clayton. Combination of the most desolate AND the most magnificent scenery anywhere! We did that in 2020. Would see another vehicle about one time per hour!
That quote symbolizes the long war that was fought in the wild west, for their Was a time of immigration from many european countries and one could say it was a giant free foralll and in some shadeds it would be considered a form of world war, between many differnet kinds of men but at the end of the day more or less it was every man for them selves if you had no loyalty or the right morals and cause, religion was also a big benefactor in this for that was always something one man had in common with one another. Stay good to eachother people
what is the name of the old movie where an old man finds gold in the dirt in a mountain spot sets up shop with 2 other young guys mine gold until they each got 35 grand leave and head home side tracked by bandits and Indians?? I seen it the other night but missed the end// great movie
Interesting how this video only seems to talk about Anglos very little regarding Native Americans & Hispanics that are the majority of citizens residing there !
Complain , endlessly complain! Let’s see, there was the well deserved homage to Juarez, the initial gunfight between an Anglo and a Hispanic, the story of the two ghostly Hispanic lovers, the Indians betrayed by the whites, the stressing of the link between Mexico and New Mexico, the story of the Gadsden Purchase and Mesillas. If that’s not enough, lo siento mucho. Let’s try to live together with a little less resentment.
I wish I could find more bids on southeast NM from back in the old west, with 7 rivers, Eddy(Carlsbad), Phenix, Look Out, Queens, Riodoso, Weed, Cloudcroft, Hondo, Malaga, Black River, Loving, Lovington, Hobbs, Whites City, Harroon Farms, Roswell, Lincoln. Lincoln in the old west was most famous for the Lincoln County War, Roswell the Alien Space Craft Crash, But all these villages, and towns have pasts that most don't know about, from the outlaw magnet village on the outskirts of Eddy (now known as Carlsbad) was called Phenix where murder, drug abuse, gambling, prostitution, suicide, all around criminal activity and mayhem was a regular daily basis, a place where outlaws, bandits, cattle thieves, degenerate fools and prostitutes would rubb shoulders with city officials , law inforcment , politicians and rich high society from surounding towns, villages, and travelers following the infamous chisum trail along the Pecos River, on into Carlsbad having a visit from Famous Criminal Couple Bonnie and Clyde who visited Bonnies Aunt and ended up having to take a deputy sheriff Hostage and used him to get away eventually releasing him in San Antonio TX.
20:26 "de la jistoria" when the Mexican talking stereotype is now an American trying to imitate a Mexican talking. No tiene mucho sentido que a un mexicano le cueste hablar en español, pero eso es en lo que se ha convertido el estereotipo. (I meant "jistoria" like a Spanish "j" or an English "h")
Not much excitement ever took place here in SW Missouri. I do remember a lot of productive farms with various livestock big hayfields and big gardens. Kids always outside working or playing hard. Grape Arbor services by any of the rivers nearby. Yes I still drive the same roads they did. I see they've become old dilapidated homes and barns, or completely dozed over. Fields full of scrub and cedars. But I'll always remember how functional the community was spread out over a 20 mile area. Sad to see the 6 bedroom 4 bath monstrosities w 2 new vehicles and a mountain of debt and nobody works the land. We all rode horses back then as kids. Ride 3 to 6 miles one way to visit. Go fishing or a ballgame in the open fields. Now everyone stares at a screen...like I'm doing now. But I'm old and have memories. What sort of memories today's generations gonna have?
At minute 14 you talk about the greed of the "white & Mexican settlers" instead of using White why is that narrators don't say "American & Mexican settlers". Good narrative, enjoyed it.
Once this documentary cut to the horrifically cringeworthy stage acting scene I had to turn it off. I don't think I've ever seen anything so depressing, dear God.
Two giant N.M legends were Kit Carson and Lucien Maxwell...who certainly would have never tolerated the Colfax & Lincoln county wars - or many of those involved... Clay's shoot out with Coubert ressembled that of BTK's in a Ft Sumner saloon with Joe Grant - But perhaps it was the power vaccum left by John Chisum that affected N.M the most ...
The last time I was in Covelo they rolled up the sidewalks at 8 PM. I hear it has changed quite a bit since then. The saw mills have also dissapeared. Use to go deer hunting at the Mendicino mountains .
The "Spanish" New Mexican origins were of Sephardic Jews escaping the Spanish Inquisition. They weren't "Spanish" or "Hispanic", they were crypto-Jews in exile.. Colombus was a Sephardics Jew, as so were many of the "Spanish" conquistadores, most names Sephardic Jewish surnames.
Robert Gardea you eat pork because you are not jewish. A lot of Jewish settlers came later on trying to make a dime. Probably not treated well. They came to Mexico and South America in the 40's bringing the Accordian. That's a good thing. What would Tejano music be with out it.
Oh really which state did half of the Western come from big hint not California come on now New Mexico was and always will get discriminated against last of the Connected us to be a state by design folks all u gotta do is ? Why did other states get compensation for nuclear downwinders only New Mexico gets shaft oh did u know it our state which has several national labs but people don't know or care about true history
I didn't know he was in this video, but it was a treat to see my old friend George C. Gray playing a part and also in the credits as a Production Assistant.
RIP, old friend, I miss you.
New Mexico has such a colorful history. New Mexico is a the Land of Enchantment. With it's mountains and deserts.
Yes. And its right next door to the Land of the Lone Star.
@Matthew Thomas Too bad there's shootings in schools.😂😂
Land of entrapment more like
It has s very colorful history. Do not forget the Lincoln County War
@@genecraig8626 We don't hear enough about our history, especially the Lincoln County war.
An old timer I knew in Rush Springs Oklahoma worked at a saloon just west of my hometown that set on the line of Indian Territory and Oklahoma territory around 1900. It was the infamous and famous Blue Goose Saloon. It had a bad bad bad reputation, but actually only the two owners were the only people killed. They shot each other. Oh the old timers name was John Forman and he worked at a pool hall where I learned to shoot snooker. Pool became to easy and nobody ever played it when I was young. Only when they invented the small pool tables that fit in bars did pool make a come back. I was raised on a ranch just about a mile west of the Chisholm Trail and two miles east of the 98th meridian where the Blue Goose set and the where the West began. I'll never forget those days when I rode my pony down the draws and over the Oklahoma hills where I was born.
you want to feel the old west come to Clayton NM where my husband and I are right this minute staying at the Historic Hotel Eklund (just $75nt!). It has it's own saloon complete with bullet holes in the ceiling and the original giant old wooden bar where you can belly up right next to cowboys with hats and spurs Just watch out for the tumble weeds. They are so plentiful it's mind boggling We've traveled quite a bit in the west and this is the coolest place we've found
The current owner of the Eklund is an absolute treasure - wonderful lady!
Danny Arnold agree thanks for acknowledging. We built a friendship at the time and have stayed in touch through social media since.
Samael Levithan not possible - my sidekick is the best!
St.James is a fantastic place to venture. Lots of history and fun.
I live in Lincoln county New Mexico in the capitan mountains. Love Lincoln county.
My great great grandpa was born in Valencia, New Mexico in 1882. Old west times
New Mexico Land of Enchantment history forever 💕 treasured.
First doc on NM history that didn't mention Billy The Kid. Congrats.
Used to live in Deming back in 1971 ... Wild West never stopped ...
Las Vegas is still the wildest of the Wild West!
@James HAMMOND u do realize that new mexico have alot of casino as well especially in Albuquerque all over
I would agree. I lived there for half a year and loved it, but it has a hard edge against "randoms" (outsiders) if you don't act right. I got along alright and loved the Plaza and all the other historic buildings (and Dick's Pub and Restaurant). I bought "Wildest of the Wild West" by Howard Bryan (who appears in this video) at Tome on the Range bookstore (near the cop shop, now an antique store). It's a great book and tells of some amazing events and personalities. I stayed a few nights at the Plaza Hotel (James Spader room on the third floor) which was great. The hot baths at Montezuma were the best.
Wow, 14 years ago! Watching. August of 2024. 👍
My great grandmother was 109 when she passed in 98 and she lived in tombstone when she was a kid and she could remember good the adults talking about what was happening and she remembered hearing the gun fights at night. I really miss talking to her rip little granny.
NM hasn't really changed much since then it's still like that here
scaredboys ! ....😅
New Mexico is the land of the first cattle and horse drives, ranches, vaqueros (real ones) mountain men, miners and the best indian fighters ever! Willian B
The original and TRUE
cowboys, will always be Méxican ...
I grew up near Billy the Kids stomping grounds, now I live down the road from Jessie James home.
We were there at the buck horn in 2008 for my good buudy bday it was so awesome i love pinos altos and silver city and Gila
Worked at the copper mines there
😢😢😢😢
My mother was born there 1938 wow thumbs up
I was born 130 years too late!
I've led three tours of antique military vehicles to the St. James in the past few years. What a place. Look for my Trooper Tyree convoys on RUclips.
The land of “ do you want red or green “ !
Green chile offcoursr
yep, my home state.
Both!
That made my mouth water..
Red always red.
Wow. That salloon is really clean.
que buenas imagenes me hubiera gustado vivir en esa epoca aunque con mucho peligro emocionante a mi asi me parece
thanks, for the ghost story...."what was that noise"!..."just the dog",..."i ain´t got no dog"! "mamma"!
505 for life they would make us sing it in middle school
cimmaron is cool, but drive a little further north to Valle Vidal and take a left about 25 miles, buffalo calving in the the spring and many historic sites up in there. Awesome country and watch out for bear and cougar, FYI not advised to allow your pups to play with buffalo of any size, just awesome and my pup survived. I have friends stay in at the James and they did not sleep well, but then again they were nervous to camp up in the high country as well. Afraid of just about anything wild, I don't think anyone in that crowd owned a firearm, which is damn ignorant with predators all over and some have four legs.
@Chris Collins yup. They are carriers and spreaders. Doesn't affect the buffalo at all.
You mean to the Sangre de Cristo Land Grant
@@paulmartinez7163😂 💦
I've spent many nites at the St James. Usually in Gov. Lew Wallace s suite. He wrote Ben Hur while he was there hiding out from Billy the Kid. I can honestly say on several occasions I would have to say I encountered strange things. It honestly is haunted or, maybe a portal to someplace else. I laughed at first. But, one nite in particular I got straightened out around 2am sitting out in the hallway not far from room 18. Something was there. Go there sometime. Good food & drink.
And, the Double Eagle down in old La Mesilla is some of the best food I've ever had in New Mexico.Across the plaza is el Patio which used to be a local hotel-livery and jail. Billy the Kid was held there awaiting trial.
Buddy Lobos
Buddy Lobos La Mesilla is strange and I saw those two lovers in that photo. It's haunting.
Ain't nothing but jails and people selling you a dream.
@@royalty_the1892 What? You've spent a night upstairs in the old St James? It was NO DREAM. It was more like a nightmare.
would love to visit and stay at the st james hotel.
Me too
Very interesting. Thanks!
Awesome!
🤠🤠🤠🤓🤓🤓 Things where very rough In those days, wow! Amazing!
I live in new mexico and I love the west!!
I enjoyed that. Thank you!
We lived in silver City
New Mexico
Best child hood u can live
Jesus Nunez ya why is that?
New mexico is beautiful beyond words, i am from jamaica originally and I came to the USA living in new york most of my life when I left there, I met a woman a native american from New mexico and went out there to live and i live there for about 2 1/2 years and it till this day its my favouriye state
@@Derellrassy87 good thing you got out before this place turned on you. I'm glad to hear a happy tale coming from a former resident.
Is that you pinchi jr
I live in Lincoln county New Mexico in the capitan mountains.
Born in Los Alamos w/2 sisters and my older brother.
today...when you drive thru new mexico...all those majestic mesas and scenic mountains are mostly covered with windturbines and solar fields…...
thank you odumbo! They will rot in place
Not necessarily, especially in west New Mexico it’s not real often you see “wind turbines and oil rigs”
Drive from Santa Rosa on back roads to Clayton. Combination of the most desolate AND the most magnificent scenery anywhere! We did that in 2020. Would see another vehicle about one time per hour!
That's false
Awesome
New Mexico was definitely "Western" ...
What exactly did the Cattle eat, before they were being fed? Really enjoyed this documentary! Thanks!
Wild alfalfa is my guess
Bravo: )
The mines in Santa Rita were already there when the Spanish arrived and many more mines north of there
this music is TOTALLY wrong
Facts!
Who dressed this guy
😂
Wondering what the name of abandoned building was where the host of this video is standing in the doorway.. anyone know?
That quote symbolizes the long war that was fought in the wild west, for their Was a time of immigration from many european countries and one could say it was a giant free foralll and in some shadeds it would be considered a form of world war, between many differnet kinds of men but at the end of the day more or less it was every man for them selves if you had no loyalty or the right morals and cause, religion was also a big benefactor in this for that was always something one man had in common with one another. Stay good to eachother people
I am not very well versed with respect to New Mexico,..., . However, I am very much more interested in the "old west
for a variety of reasons,..., .
cool
what is the name of the old movie where an old man finds gold in the dirt in a mountain spot sets up shop with 2 other young guys mine gold until they each got 35 grand leave and head home side tracked by bandits and Indians?? I seen it the other night but missed the end// great movie
Treasure of the Sierra Madre starring Humphrey Bogart
Red Chile ❤️
Christmas ❤️💚❤️💚❤️💚❤️
What about Lincoln and the saloon where Billy the Kid drank?
Interesting how this video only seems to talk about Anglos very little regarding Native Americans & Hispanics that are the majority of citizens residing there !
Complain , endlessly complain! Let’s see, there was the well deserved homage to Juarez, the initial gunfight between an Anglo and a Hispanic, the story of the two ghostly Hispanic lovers, the Indians betrayed by the whites, the stressing of the link between Mexico and New Mexico, the story of the Gadsden Purchase and Mesillas. If that’s not enough, lo siento mucho. Let’s try to live together with a little less resentment.
I wish I could find more bids on southeast NM from back in the old west, with 7 rivers, Eddy(Carlsbad), Phenix, Look Out, Queens, Riodoso, Weed, Cloudcroft, Hondo, Malaga, Black River, Loving, Lovington, Hobbs, Whites City, Harroon Farms, Roswell, Lincoln. Lincoln in the old west was most famous for the Lincoln County War, Roswell the Alien Space Craft Crash, But all these villages, and towns have pasts that most don't know about, from the outlaw magnet village on the outskirts of Eddy (now known as Carlsbad) was called Phenix where murder, drug abuse, gambling, prostitution, suicide, all around criminal activity and mayhem was a regular daily basis, a place where outlaws, bandits, cattle thieves, degenerate fools and prostitutes would rubb shoulders with city officials , law inforcment , politicians and rich high society from surounding towns, villages, and travelers following the infamous chisum trail along the Pecos River, on into Carlsbad having a visit from Famous Criminal Couple Bonnie and Clyde who visited Bonnies Aunt and ended up having to take a deputy sheriff Hostage and used him to get away eventually releasing him in San Antonio TX.
I grew up in Hagerman nm in the 90s I know all tat area
Greetings from Taos!
Why was the Wild West also wooly?
That wild turkey bottle at 10:26 is very inaccurate
Native land
I use to live in Santa Fe and Taos ❤️
Red or Green?
@@royalty_the1892 Christmas!
20:26 "de la jistoria" when the Mexican talking stereotype is now an American trying to imitate a Mexican talking. No tiene mucho sentido que a un mexicano le cueste hablar en español, pero eso es en lo que se ha convertido el estereotipo. (I meant "jistoria" like a Spanish "j" or an English "h")
OK I think he's saying "gestoría" my bad I'm sorry
That's pee nos altos not peenyos, gringo. No tilde on the Spanish word for pine
Not much excitement ever took place here in SW Missouri. I do remember a lot of productive farms with various livestock big hayfields and big gardens. Kids always outside working or playing hard. Grape Arbor services by any of the rivers nearby. Yes I still drive the same roads they did. I see they've become old dilapidated homes and barns, or completely dozed over. Fields full of scrub and cedars. But I'll always remember how functional the community was spread out over a 20 mile area. Sad to see the 6 bedroom 4 bath monstrosities w 2 new vehicles and a mountain of debt and nobody works the land. We all rode horses back then as kids. Ride 3 to 6 miles one way to visit. Go fishing or a ballgame in the open fields. Now everyone stares at a screen...like I'm doing now. But I'm old and have memories. What sort of memories today's generations gonna have?
Well let’s open it ?
At minute 14 you talk about the greed of the "white & Mexican settlers" instead of using White why is that narrators don't say "American & Mexican settlers". Good narrative, enjoyed it.
Ok 25 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Once this documentary cut to the horrifically cringeworthy stage acting scene I had to turn it off. I don't think I've ever seen anything so depressing, dear God.
De colores
Two giant N.M legends were Kit Carson and Lucien Maxwell...who certainly would have never tolerated the Colfax & Lincoln county wars - or many of those involved... Clay's shoot out with Coubert ressembled that of BTK's in a Ft Sumner saloon with Joe Grant - But perhaps it was the power vaccum left by John Chisum that affected N.M the most ...
What makes European people think that they have rights to other people's lands?
Do you know how history operates?
Pinos Altos means tall pines. Pino is P-I-N-O. Every time he pronounces it with a tilde over the "n", it makes me cringe.
They were New Mexicans - Hispanos, not Mexicans.
Covelo, California,....Last of the wild west, f. AZBIL, 1936(WRITTEN IN SAN QUITEN, PRISON....THE Q)
Covelo? Yeah… it’s pretty odd out there but not wild
The last time I was in Covelo they rolled up the sidewalks at 8 PM. I hear it has changed quite a bit since then. The saw mills have also dissapeared. Use to go deer hunting at the Mendicino mountains .
Sir your clothes don't match
The "Spanish" New Mexican origins were of Sephardic Jews escaping the Spanish Inquisition. They weren't "Spanish" or "Hispanic", they were crypto-Jews in exile.. Colombus was a Sephardics Jew, as so were many of the "Spanish" conquistadores, most names Sephardic Jewish surnames.
Robert Gardea you eat pork because you are not jewish. A lot of Jewish settlers came later on trying to make a dime. Probably not treated well. They came to Mexico and South America in the 40's bringing the Accordian. That's a good thing. What would Tejano music be with out it.
Jason Waite You are one of those that believe whatever someone in a suit tells you. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FOOL!!!!!!! You're such a DUMBASS!!!!!
Wrong
A lot of us are crypto Jews but we consider ourselves spanish
Poverty.
Exactly.
Benito Juarez, the traitor?
yanks
I hate to pop peoples bubble, but Covelo, California is known as the last of the west, frank azbill, 1936, san quinten state pen'.
There are a lot of places that claim that but NM wins that title. Sorry to burst your bubble ...
Where is Covela? I'm from Ca. And i know exactly where San Quentin is.
California lost its country touch long before the 30s
Oh really which state did half of the Western come from big hint not California come on now New Mexico was and always will get discriminated against last of the Connected us to be a state by design folks all u gotta do is ? Why did other states get compensation for nuclear downwinders only New Mexico gets shaft oh did u know it our state which has several national labs but people don't know or care about true history
Lot of BS not a good job