#Gamingtech I know you test vrr can i see solinter cell chaos theory on your tv also i dont know if vrr works on it but i would like to see lights and shadows on your tv
Danke für die Aufklärung :) Dachte schon ich müsste mir Sorgen machen, da mein Denon x4700 kein FreeSync unterstützt. Wenn VRR und FreeSync das gleiche machen, ist ja alles in Butter ^^
C1 and C2 support a variable refresh between 20hz and 120hz too. The CX is limited to 40hz to 120hz. This could cause confusion for people so i thought i would clear that up is all :). C1 is brilliant with the Series X and VRR with that range.
Do you use the vrr option or the freesync one? The C1 is wierd cause you can have them both on at the same time but it seems when you have them both on, freesync takes priority since it is what shows up on the game bar.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Hey friend. Need a tip. Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them? Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit? After some test the best looks is: XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On Or: XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
@@Hunt2k just one, i prefer VRR on 120hz. if you set both to on, it just defaults to freesync. 4.2.2 off (or some content defaults to it over rgb 10bit). and colour depth 10bit. series X cant output 12bit at 120hz (the reason i prefer hdr10+hgig ocer dolby vision, vision xant do 10 bit and falls back to 8bit ) summary: uhd4k, 120hz, hdr10+hgig > dolby vision gaming in most cases. picture mode standard, 10bit range. enable everything but ycr422 and dolby vision gaming.
HDMI Forum VRR AMD Freesync Nvidia "G-Sync Compatible" Those brands of the variable refresh rate technology are based on the same VESA Adaptive Sync (Display Port) standard, but they are not exactly identical and their compatibility is not guaranteed. For example, since the PS5 doesn't support Freesync, variable refresh rate can work on Freesync monitors, but does not have to. "G-Sync Ultimate" on the other hand, is a proprietary Nvidia tech, that needs a G-Sync module in the monitor/TV. Later Nvidia introduced the "G-Sync compatible" program that is based on Adaptive Sync, so the Geforce cards can use vrr with monitors that don't have a module. Also one of the biggest reasons for confusion in discussions, is the mixing of the terms vrr and VRR. Variable refresh rate is of course the technology to sync the frames, but also HDMI Forums brand name for the technology when written in upper case -> VRR. So in future, when you read "VRR" always try to find the context and what is really meant, because people mostly dont care about the use of capital and small letters. HDMI Forums VRR works with HDMI (maybe also with Display Port when using an adapter, not sure right now). Freesync works with HDMI and Display Port. G-Sync works with Display Port, not sure about HDMI and which version, but they could have added the support already since i checked last time. Hope that helps a bit.
So if I want to buy a monitor that helps with frame drops, which is better freesync or vrr? I game on an xss, and in aware the GPU architecture is supposed to support and I quote "vrr" will a monitor with "freesync" not accomplish the same thing?
The PS5 currently only supports 32Gbps instead of the possible 48Gbps of HDMI 2.1, so 4k 120hz does not work with 4:4:4 chroma. 4K @120Hz 10-bit 4:4:4 requires 40.09 Gbps (uncompressed) at HDMI 2.1. If so it would only work at 60hz. You don't see such a big difference with 4:4:4 chroma compared to 4:2:2, because the color space is also limited with 4:4:4. RGB 10bit would be better, there the color space is not limited and you get a cleaner picture.
@@Wes_Trippy4life I had to try this directly on my PS5, on my LG C9 which supports 48gbs, it displays up to 60hz RGB but at 120hz whether with or without HDR it uses 4:2:2 chroma. That's why I can't imagine that Sony has patched it. It would have been cool, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be the case.
does vrr or freesync only mess up the true blacks in certain games? I swear i usually dont notice it doing anything to the true blacks. But if it is only for certain games that vrr or freesync messes up true blacks, is that what the fine tune dark areas is for?
I know it’s an older game but can you do a video on Ghost Recons Breakpoints HDR settings??! I can’t seem to get my night time to actually look like night!
Does anyone know why when freesync is enabled on TV or monitor the colors are washed picture quality looks much low when it's turn it so back normal is there a Fix for this
anybody can tell the diff vrr vs xcelerator (samsung) plsss ???..... I wish to know if I can use xcelerator on cable tv (and movies) not only games (I'm not interested in gamming on tv) and if yes does it worth to keep it on like that fo cable tv or is badder ???......in 2011 I bought an lg ld750 tv with true motion 200hz at that time being the least expensive tv with that feature.......and liked it very much..... now I have a PHILIPS 43PUS7608 vs Samsung QE43Q60CAU (or dau) issue and I don't know if the philips tv can do 120hz being priced 1032 ron vs 1769ron the samsung in my country......anyway what would you take between the two ???.....only for cable tv.....I keep it as my televizor instead of old 2k lg (200hz).......or with what other philips/sony tv would you compare samsung q60 ???....they are on the less expensive side of the wallet....THX!..... (it's just that I cared for the "200hz" thing very very much......and I dunno what to do now with these new tehnologies on 4k)
Hey there GamingTech, would you possibly do a comparison of Assassin's creed valhalla and VRR between xbsx and ps5 version's as it's an unsupported game for PS5. I have a 65 inch sony x900h with vrr support it was manufactured October 2020. I just want to know how that specific game perfomrs on the PS5 with vrr. Thanks a million, cheers and God Bless. Thank you for your content.
On Xbox series X valuable refresh rate should I keep it always on? or gaming only ? I’m new to this stuff. My Monitor supports 120hz. It was checked on Allow 50hz
My monitor has 240 p and i have seen an improvement over the tv i used when i play call of duty it feels ten times cleaner and faster to turn around but when i play mortal kombat 1 the game feels slow
Hey, can you help and tell me how to measure in game brightness with a meter? I want to see what my G1 actually puts out in real content.....what software do I need? Thanks so much.
@@GamingTech-RUclips If I understood it correctly I heard on digital foundry that the games from insomniac (r&c and spiderman) use some software based lfc which is great (this is why the reading on the lg cx and every other tv for that matter cant show the right hz or fps). This would mean that every developer on the playstation needs to specially implement it, which is less great but it's something.
All the videos on LFC and PS5 had me concerned that their TVs may have the same limitation. So I downloaded A Plagues Tale on the series X and put it in 120 hz mode. I tested that first part of the game where there is horrible screen tearing and it ran super smooth no micro stutter or anything. So I am hoping the Range on the A80J is better then it is on the PS5.
I have both VRR And Freesync off. I just put tru motion plus to high and looks smooth no stutter what so ever oh and for xbox x 120hz must be se to 60hz in order for Tru Motion plus is allowed to take over.Looks like 120hz or better.Thats my experience for my Lg CX
Dont use true motion you will have 100 ms i put lag You can play 120fps mode and even turn off vrr if you whant then were talking 5-6ms With it on can be either 5ms or more depenting on the implemented quality of the game devs
HDMI 2.1 VRR is not Freesync, it is a new standard in HDMI 2.1 (but some older HDMI 2.0 TV already had it) and not compatible with Freesync, even they practially do the same. Xbox can just do both. The HDMI 2.0 chip in the C9 can actually do Freesync with EDID change in addition to HDMI VRR, but the HDMI 2.1 bridge chip can't. You can toggle it with EDID change but it doesn't work for HDMI 2.1.
Freesync has more raised blacks in games like forza 5 or hitman 3. Also these raised blacks are cost of the lower imput lag. You gaming faster on freesync. Examples are Hades and Rocket League. Vrr is more for single player rpg stuff like ps5 exes. Lg c1, idk about cx.
@@Septentrional33 Yes, it gives more imput lag for esports games like Rocket League, but it's more smooth for rpg games like PS5 exclusives (gives more cinematic feeling). It has pros and coins.
@@Septentrional33 VRR is only better in 3rd person games like Ghost of Tshushima or Sniper Elite 5 with 360 camera rotations where Freesync is less cinematic, but for games like Forza Freesync is the same.
@@damiandrabik7602 Hello friend, XSX + C1 Oled. On 4k:120hz Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them? Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit? After some test the best looks is: XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On Or: XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
Ich habe auf meiner Series X beides AN VRR&AMD FREESYNC PREMIUM habe Ich dadurch ein Vorteil oder Nachteil dadurch? Sollte Ich eins davon abschalten? Über eine Antwort würd Ich Mich sehr Freuen:) Danke im Voraus
Kann bei LG beides aktiv bleiben. Ich habe leider "nur" einen C9 (kann kein Freesync) und weiß daher nicht, ob die Xbox VRR oder Freesync bevorzugt, aber beide Funktionen machen genau das gleiche. Die Schalter im TV aktivieren ja nur die Möglichkeit die jeweilige Technik zu nutzen und machen sonst erst einmal nichts. PS: man sieht es ja im Video. Freesync wird von der Konsole bevorzugt, wenn vorhanden, da VRR (Schalter für "instant game response") ja weiterhin aktiv ist (und auch sein muss).
vrr lets you do that 4 4 4 also ,this is a limitation of ps5 hdmi,ps5 have limited hdmi 2.1 speed not full 48 but 32 Gbps,xbox series x have 40.and its supports 444 at 4k 120
@@Coloradocaliber Hello friend! XSX + C1 Oled. On 4k:120hz Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them? Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit? After some test the best looks is: XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On Or: XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
@@Coloradocaliber thats old info. set to standard, 10 bit puts out rgb 444 (aka chroma). but you need to skip DV gaming cause its unable to put out 10 bit, tries 12 , fails due to 40mbit bandwith and drops to 422 8 bit.
There are 2 things between freesync Pro & VRR: VRR Varies the sub 118.60 to 118.89? & 118.68 is a lot more common & most common in FreeSync & Deep Colour being enabled for richer tones of colour & subtler shadows on the HDR Component, Deep colour itself is an expanded range colour field for HDMI & LCD/TV/Monitor.... The RGB 10b 4L10 is the same ? not sure, Data rate & non visible compression component & Average data rate & console processor usage for HDMI & Especially on the PS4 & PS5 this is true. DukeThrust
@@Septentrional33 or if a game has a 30/60fps limit and it runs kinda steady you get those 118/119 instead of 120 due to lfc. it just doubles/triples/quadruples the frames. only on games that are all over the place you get to see the vrr getting readouts to sway a bit more. ms flightsim or elden ring come to mind.
We already know DMCV is one of the few games that VRR doesnt function properly on Series X (other one is Halo according to Digital Foundry). It is misleading to use it as a reference point for any comparison.
It sounds like you missed the point of this video. Watch the previous video and then come back to this one. Also, how is he being "misleading"? He already showed that Series X's VRR/Freesync works perfectly fine with other games, so what exactly is he being misleading about?
interesting 👍🏻 i have Xbox and i prefer Xbox way more than PS consoles but i think VRR on PS5 is very gd move though Hardware VRR is much better and stable but again the thing is if Game itself is poorly optimized like DMC (on Xbox) then Ntg can make it runs gd with or without VRR/FREESYNC
@@samw2670 When AoE2&4, Ori games, Hi-Fi Rush, Forza Horizon games are going to launch on PS5? If PS5 is that much better why is Mad Max and many other games locked to 30fps on it?
Does this amateur not know that AMD Freesync is VRR? Makes a video thinking both are different 🤣. And yes anyone who actually knows, there are different implementations of VRR but they all strive to do the same thing
If my tv is 120H and xbox x is 120..shoudl i use gsync or freestnc premium? For lowest latency? Also have vrr off on xboxx. Idk just want low latency an these settings not sure about at all
Looking forward to more analysis of game performance! Curious, what legacy games were you eager to test now that VRR is available on PS5? I'm wondering about MGSV, GT Sport, Sekiro and BF4. Thank you for your content GT!
@@upsetduck7566 Any game with an unlocked framerate or a target 60fps framerate runs at locked 60fps on PS5. All the games you listed are locked 60fps on PS5 and you don't need VRR. In truth a game "needing" VRR is not a good thing, it means that the game doesn't run at the target 60fps or 120fps. VRR is a only useful if the game doesn't run at 60fps or 120fps.
@@Stephen_Black Ps4 pro version of Elden Ring is the only version of the game that runs 60fps locked. AC games all run 60fps, Monster Hunter World also runs 60fps, Ys also runs 60fps. No need to cover all the way down to 40fps with VRR because most games never dip that low and those that do (Elden Ring) are so bad performance wise that it doesn't make sense to run the ps5 version, you would use the Ps4 version instead where the framerateis locked. All PS4 games with a 60fps mode are locked 60, only PS5 versions of games dip below 60fps and almost never if the game is properly optimized for PS5 (Ratchet and Clank, TLOU1 remake, Uncharted collection, and Demon Souls). As far as the YU422 issue, on my LG C1 it only whichs to that if you are in 120fps mode, but the series X does the same thing in 120fps mode, for basic 4k 60fps you should be getting 4:4:4 RGB.
I have a pc with a Radeon 6800 XT and even if you enable Freesync Premium on the LG C1 in the Radeon Software it shows it as VRR. I think it may have something to do with HDMI 2.1 I have a 240hz 1080p monitor with Freesync and when connected via Display Port in the driver it shows it as Freesync Premium pro and on my other 1440p G-Sync/Freesync monitor it shows it as VRR as well. I have done some testing and from what I can see there is no difference whether the driver treats the display as VRR or Freesync. It's pretty much the same thing from what I've seen.
Thank you! Vincent from HDTV also touched on this when talking about LG C9's VRR support and that the lack of freesync didn't matter (like you said) on a TV that has Hdmi 2.1! But that Freesync works with 2.0 and below is new to me thx! The only thing i am still bit confused about is the range of LFC and when it kicks in ect. I tried Guardians of the Galaxy (30fps) on PS5 but no difference with forced VRR or OFF ...the same awful stutter! Ich denke abgesehen von mir würden sich noch viele freuen wenn du da etwas mehr Klarheit noch verschaffen könntest, weil noch sehr viel Verwirrung herrscht wie du sicher auch bemerkt hast! Nochmals danke für die tollen Videos Markus! ;)
@@richardfranklin6003 I never claimed that ps5 works with lfc or not? I said i could not reproduce it and that ppl and i sure would appreciate to get more info on that! If you know something we don't than share instead of belittling!
@@SAIIIURAI only on a software level when developers implement it from what I understand. Basically only insomniac games in fidelity mode ( spiderman and ratched and clanck). Heard it on digital foundry. Maybe some other games too if they had a vrr patch, which only a handful did.
I discovered that having freesync on my cx, my series x's aspect ratio changes where when i check the calibration via the console, the green line border is extended beyond the viewable display and games hud is clipping through the edges. When disabled everything is fine.
vrr and freesync are so confusing.. the difference as far as i know that freesync doesn't require hdmi 2.1 and have LFC while hdmi 2.1VRR have 48-60hz window and LFC must be implemented by the game itself am i right?
That means when i have a cheap TV without any VRR, Freesync... only 60FPS - when i have a strong GPU that doesnt drop under 60FPS and when i limit to the 60FPS via the Nvidia Panel i shouldnt have stutters and the experience should be good/consistent? Thanks for the video! 💙
Nobody seems to actually know. 😂 NGL I've had my series x and new C3 oled for weeks now and all I have done is spend time on picture settings, VRR freesync or gsync? HDR or Dolby vision? Having to change picture settings for games, movies and RUclips is tiring me out. I miss the old days. There are just too many fucking options 😢
I have a Samsung qr70 with freesync 2.0. Will do 120hrz at 1440p and 60hrz at 4k. The Series X will not allow me to turn on VRR. Always wondered if I was actually benefitting from freesync. Sounds like it is working if you can't run them together anyway.
This is the third time I tell you, but I tell you again: I really like your channel and the way you explain to us VRR, HDR... I'm becoming an expert thanks to you haha. Keep the good work!! Regards from Spain!
when I wanted to use VRR insteat of Gsync compatible ,I couldn't find anything about it. I've only been told once that Gsync Compatible is nothing more than VRR over HDMI 2.1.
@@johnm4397 hmmm I have activated in control panel, both options. Window mode and full screen. I have only the info VRR. I tried later with completely reinstalling the vga driver
@@GamingTech-RUclips in my case I use freesync with vrr disabled, and I think it works better than vrr enableded on the xbox. Because you let the TV do that and the console is not trying to override it. But I might be wrong, I'm not an expert just a enthusiast
@@xufreee Sorry I don't understand. When you disable vrr on the Xbox it will also disable freesync. The TV is not doing anything you can just ask the TV to use freesync if available from the console. VRR on the xbox means freesync!
Please like, share and subscribe. Thank You! 😀
#Gamingtech
I know you test vrr can i see solinter cell chaos theory on your tv also i dont know if vrr works on it but i would like to see lights and shadows on your tv
To be fair Freesync has the advantage of looking cooler in the menu.
I give you that!
Freesync also works on HDMI 2.0 whereas VRR does not (at least most of the time there have been reports of it working but those are outliers).
Danke für die Aufklärung :) Dachte schon ich müsste mir Sorgen machen, da mein Denon x4700 kein FreeSync unterstützt. Wenn VRR und FreeSync das gleiche machen, ist ja alles in Butter ^^
As a C9 owner, I wasn’t upset at all the the CX got Free sync. It’s just isn’t needed for the Xbox
always glad to see your video!!you make me know new things!!thanks for all
C1 and C2 support a variable refresh between 20hz and 120hz too. The CX is limited to 40hz to 120hz. This could cause confusion for people so i thought i would clear that up is all :). C1 is brilliant with the Series X and VRR with that range.
Do you use the vrr option or the freesync one? The C1 is wierd cause you can have them both on at the same time but it seems when you have them both on, freesync takes priority since it is what shows up on the game bar.
That sounds amazing. I wonder if it has any effect on 30 FPS (wonder if it reduces the effect of that ugly double image you get with 30 FPS).
@@theelusivememe1772 Mostly just VRR as i have a series X
@@DEVILTAZ35 Hey friend. Need a tip. Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them?
Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit?
After some test the best looks is:
XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On
Or:
XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
@@Hunt2k just one, i prefer VRR on 120hz. if you set both to on, it just defaults to freesync.
4.2.2 off (or some content defaults to it over rgb 10bit).
and colour depth 10bit.
series X cant output 12bit at 120hz (the reason i prefer hdr10+hgig ocer dolby vision, vision xant do 10 bit and falls back to 8bit )
summary: uhd4k, 120hz, hdr10+hgig > dolby vision gaming in most cases. picture mode standard, 10bit range. enable everything but ycr422 and dolby vision gaming.
HDMI Forum VRR
AMD Freesync
Nvidia "G-Sync Compatible"
Those brands of the variable refresh rate technology are based on the same VESA Adaptive Sync (Display Port) standard, but they are not exactly identical and their compatibility is not guaranteed. For example, since the PS5 doesn't support Freesync, variable refresh rate can work on Freesync monitors, but does not have to. "G-Sync Ultimate" on the other hand, is a proprietary Nvidia tech, that needs a G-Sync module in the monitor/TV. Later Nvidia introduced the "G-Sync compatible" program that is based on Adaptive Sync, so the Geforce cards can use vrr with monitors that don't have a module.
Also one of the biggest reasons for confusion in discussions, is the mixing of the terms vrr and VRR. Variable refresh rate is of course the technology to sync the frames, but also HDMI Forums brand name for the technology when written in upper case -> VRR. So in future, when you read "VRR" always try to find the context and what is really meant, because people mostly dont care about the use of capital and small letters. HDMI Forums VRR works with HDMI (maybe also with Display Port when using an adapter, not sure right now). Freesync works with HDMI and Display Port. G-Sync works with Display Port, not sure about HDMI and which version, but they could have added the support already since i checked last time.
Hope that helps a bit.
So if I want to buy a monitor that helps with frame drops, which is better freesync or vrr?
I game on an xss, and in aware the GPU architecture is supposed to support and I quote "vrr" will a monitor with "freesync" not accomplish the same thing?
Amok, why don’t you use PC mode in your home dashboard HDMI for PS5 and Xbox? It gives you full 4:4:4 chroma!
The PS5 currently only supports 32Gbps instead of the possible 48Gbps of HDMI 2.1, so 4k 120hz does not work with 4:4:4 chroma.
4K @120Hz 10-bit 4:4:4 requires 40.09 Gbps (uncompressed) at HDMI 2.1.
If so it would only work at 60hz. You don't see such a big difference with 4:4:4 chroma compared to 4:2:2, because the color space is also limited with 4:4:4. RGB 10bit would be better, there the color space is not limited and you get a cleaner picture.
@@Elrebrion1 PS5 was updated in April of 2021 to 48 Gbps 🤦♂️😂
@@Wes_Trippy4life I had to try this directly on my PS5, on my LG C9 which supports 48gbs, it displays up to 60hz RGB but at 120hz whether with or without HDR it uses 4:2:2 chroma. That's why I can't imagine that Sony has patched it. It would have been cool, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be the case.
@@Wes_Trippy4life source?
@@quaticus Just Google "what is PS5 HDMI bandwidth" and you will get your answer.
Ghostwire tokyo got a VRR update for ps5 today.
Will check it out later.
I have vvr of on ps5 not working good for me
does vrr or freesync only mess up the true blacks in certain games? I swear i usually dont notice it doing anything to the true blacks. But if it is only for certain games that vrr or freesync messes up true blacks, is that what the fine tune dark areas is for?
I think you confused vrr freesync with hdr
I know it’s an older game but can you do a video on Ghost Recons Breakpoints HDR settings??! I can’t seem to get my night time to actually look like night!
Does anyone know why when freesync is enabled on TV or monitor the colors are washed picture quality looks much low when it's turn it so back normal is there a Fix for this
anybody can tell the diff vrr vs xcelerator (samsung) plsss ???.....
I wish to know if I can use xcelerator on cable tv (and movies) not only games (I'm not interested in gamming on tv) and if yes does it worth to keep it on like that fo cable tv or is badder ???......in 2011 I bought an lg ld750 tv with true motion 200hz at that time being the least expensive tv with that feature.......and liked it very much.....
now I have a PHILIPS 43PUS7608 vs Samsung QE43Q60CAU (or dau) issue and I don't know if the philips tv can do 120hz being priced 1032 ron vs 1769ron the samsung in my country......anyway what would you take between the two ???.....only for cable tv.....I keep it as my televizor instead of old 2k lg (200hz).......or with what other philips/sony tv would you compare samsung q60 ???....they are on the less expensive side of the wallet....THX!.....
(it's just that I cared for the "200hz" thing very very much......and I dunno what to do now with these new tehnologies on 4k)
Where are your freesync high or wide options on your tv? Mine show's a option for High (60hz) and wide (120hz).
Does freesync improve input latency?
Hey there GamingTech, would you possibly do a comparison of Assassin's creed valhalla and VRR between xbsx and ps5 version's as it's an unsupported game for PS5. I have a 65 inch sony x900h with vrr support it was manufactured October 2020. I just want to know how that specific game perfomrs on the PS5 with vrr. Thanks a million, cheers and God Bless. Thank you for your content.
What is best Lg tv VRR or Xbox VRR…if I use them both I get no signal when switching from menu to hdr game…???
Just a quick question: I can’t get the rgb 10b mode ingame, only 8b (I’ve a CX) Which setting should I change in the Tv or XBOX SX? Thanks.
On Xbox series X valuable refresh rate should I keep it always on? or gaming only ? I’m new to this stuff. My Monitor supports 120hz. It was checked on Allow 50hz
My monitor has 240 p and i have seen an improvement over the tv i used when i play call of duty it feels ten times cleaner and faster to turn around but when i play mortal kombat 1 the game feels slow
I have a 2.1 HDMI Samsung Odyssey g70a monitor. But I don't have the option vrr on PS5, can someone help me? Thx
Reset console and option should appear in settings on PS5
Use freesync without vrr
Quick question, is it compatible with FreeSync Premium or FreeSync Premium Pro?
Hey, can you help and tell me how to measure in game brightness with a meter? I want to see what my G1 actually puts out in real content.....what software do I need? Thanks so much.
*I'm hearing that FreeSync isnt supported with the VRR update for the PS5 is that accurate Yes or No?*
Is the lfc behavior also the same? (when using a source that supports that ofcource like the pc or Xbox series x)
On the Xbox it is the same BUT there can be a difference because on Freesync LFC is mandatory on VRR it is a feature.
@@GamingTech-RUclips If I understood it correctly I heard on digital foundry that the games from insomniac (r&c and spiderman) use some software based lfc which is great (this is why the reading on the lg cx and every other tv for that matter cant show the right hz or fps).
This would mean that every developer on the playstation needs to specially implement it, which is less great but it's something.
All the videos on LFC and PS5 had me concerned that their TVs may have the same limitation. So I downloaded A Plagues Tale on the series X and put it in 120 hz mode. I tested that first part of the game where there is horrible screen tearing and it ran super smooth no micro stutter or anything. So I am hoping the Range on the A80J is better then it is on the PS5.
20-120hz@4K and Only 48-60Hz@1080p so you wanna always use a 4K signal for best I believe on A80J
@@ItsAkile Wow that's awesome. Thanks you so much have been scratching my head about this. Where did you find this information?
@@stergiovalente you can head to the Rtings website or RUclips channel for information on pretty much any display TVs/Monitors
@@ItsAkile True. Lol I forgot about RTings. Don't know why I didn't think to check there. Thanks again!
@@stergiovalente No problem mate, I try to recommend it to everyone so more people can get acquainted and make a good choice
Hey man lg c1 series x owner any chance you could check out for honor ? It’s on game pass ,appreciate your videos!
The difference between VRR - FreeSync Premium - FreeSync Premium Pro VIDEO PLEASE.
Check the input lag difference, please with freesync on xbox. Cause it feel like the input lag is triple
I have both VRR And Freesync off. I just put tru motion plus to high and looks smooth no stutter what so ever oh and for xbox x 120hz must be se to 60hz in order for Tru Motion plus is allowed to take over.Looks like 120hz or better.Thats my experience for my Lg CX
I'm pretty sure Tru motion plus makes the latency worse. I think controller input response would feel much better with freesync on.
Dont use true motion you will have 100 ms i put lag
You can play 120fps mode and even turn off vrr if you whant then were talking 5-6ms
With it on can be either 5ms or more depenting on the implemented quality of the game devs
@@oldb3139 are you qhure abaout the pc mode thing vecause HDTV test said we should run in oc mode to get 4 4 4
HDMI VRR is freesync. This is so true that the LG C9 that do not suport freesync actually will process it if you force an edid flag for it.
HDMI 2.1 VRR is not Freesync, it is a new standard in HDMI 2.1 (but some older HDMI 2.0 TV already had it) and not compatible with Freesync, even they practially do the same. Xbox can just do both. The HDMI 2.0 chip in the C9 can actually do Freesync with EDID change in addition to HDMI VRR, but the HDMI 2.1 bridge chip can't. You can toggle it with EDID change but it doesn't work for HDMI 2.1.
No senor, eso es otra vaina
Freesync has more raised blacks in games like forza 5 or hitman 3. Also these raised blacks are cost of the lower imput lag. You gaming faster on freesync. Examples are Hades and Rocket League. Vrr is more for single player rpg stuff like ps5 exes. Lg c1, idk about cx.
So forum hdmi VRR gives more inputlag than freaunc premium?
@@Septentrional33 Yes, it gives more imput lag for esports games like Rocket League, but it's more smooth for rpg games like PS5 exclusives (gives more cinematic feeling). It has pros and coins.
@@damiandrabik7602 so less jaggy movement/studdering but higher input lag?
While freesync premium gives studdering but less input lag
@@Septentrional33 VRR is only better in 3rd person games like Ghost of Tshushima or Sniper Elite 5 with 360 camera rotations where Freesync is less cinematic, but for games like Forza Freesync is the same.
@@damiandrabik7602 Hello friend, XSX + C1 Oled. On 4k:120hz
Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them?
Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit?
After some test the best looks is:
XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On
Or:
XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
What about the PS5 ?
Ich habe auf meiner Series X beides AN VRR&AMD FREESYNC PREMIUM habe Ich dadurch ein Vorteil oder Nachteil dadurch? Sollte Ich eins davon abschalten? Über eine Antwort würd Ich Mich sehr Freuen:) Danke im Voraus
Kann bei LG beides aktiv bleiben. Ich habe leider "nur" einen C9 (kann kein Freesync) und weiß daher nicht, ob die Xbox VRR oder Freesync bevorzugt, aber beide Funktionen machen genau das gleiche. Die Schalter im TV aktivieren ja nur die Möglichkeit die jeweilige Technik zu nutzen und machen sonst erst einmal nichts.
PS: man sieht es ja im Video. Freesync wird von der Konsole bevorzugt, wenn vorhanden, da VRR (Schalter für "instant game response") ja weiterhin aktiv ist (und auch sein muss).
AMD Freezing ❤️
Freesync allows you to keep the full 4:4:4 chroma though. So that is nice.
vrr lets you do that 4 4 4 also ,this is a limitation of ps5 hdmi,ps5 have limited hdmi 2.1 speed not full 48 but 32 Gbps,xbox series x have 40.and its supports 444 at 4k 120
@@leftestali VRR is 4:4:2. Measured per HDTV test. Also you need to change the port to be named PC.
@@Coloradocaliber VRR can be 4:4:4 in general, everthing lower is because of HDR bandwith limitations of PS5 or Xbox and not because of VRR itself.
@@Coloradocaliber Hello friend! XSX + C1 Oled. On 4k:120hz
Do i need ON both VRR\GSync+AMDPremFreesync? Or only 1 of them?
Do i need ON 4:2:2 \ RGB PC XSX Mode\ or 10\12bit?
After some test the best looks is:
XSX 4:2:2 off, 12 bit\RGB 4k:120hz. TV: VRRon, AMD FSync On
Or:
XSX 4:2:2 on, 8bit\RGB 4k:120hz, TV: Vrroff, AMD FSync On
@@Coloradocaliber thats old info. set to standard, 10 bit puts out rgb 444 (aka chroma). but you need to skip DV gaming cause its unable to put out 10 bit, tries 12 , fails due to 40mbit bandwith and drops to 422 8 bit.
There are 2 things between freesync Pro & VRR: VRR Varies the sub 118.60 to 118.89? & 118.68 is a lot more common & most common in FreeSync & Deep Colour being enabled for richer tones of colour & subtler shadows on the HDR Component, Deep colour itself is an expanded range colour field for HDMI & LCD/TV/Monitor....
The RGB 10b 4L10 is the same ? not sure, Data rate & non visible compression component & Average data rate & console processor usage for HDMI & Especially on the PS4 & PS5 this is true.
DukeThrust
Freesync good on LG B1 Xbox Sx ?
Yes it's fine
you'er lg cx with freesync on should show ur FPS of the game thats how it works , when its 118,119 fps its not working
No they implemented max framreate lower than max hz so that vsync dont engage
@@Septentrional33 or if a game has a 30/60fps limit and it runs kinda steady you get those 118/119 instead of 120 due to lfc. it just doubles/triples/quadruples the frames. only on games that are all over the place you get to see the vrr getting readouts to sway a bit more. ms flightsim or elden ring come to mind.
In summary series x vrr feature is useless.. 😅😅
We already know DMCV is one of the few games that VRR doesnt function properly on Series X (other one is Halo according to Digital Foundry). It is misleading to use it as a reference point for any comparison.
It sounds like you missed the point of this video. Watch the previous video and then come back to this one.
Also, how is he being "misleading"? He already showed that Series X's VRR/Freesync works perfectly fine with other games, so what exactly is he being misleading about?
9 minutes of rotational camera ... omg 🤢
interesting 👍🏻
i have Xbox and i prefer Xbox way more than PS consoles but i think VRR on PS5 is very gd move though Hardware VRR is much better and stable but again the thing is if Game itself is poorly optimized like DMC (on Xbox) then Ntg can make it runs gd with or without VRR/FREESYNC
What about low fps situations?
No difference at all. Watch the Video ;-) Also Elden Ring runs without any Stuttering with VRR
@Gamer xbox games just lacks quality
@@samw2670 When AoE2&4, Ori games, Hi-Fi Rush, Forza Horizon games are going to launch on PS5? If PS5 is that much better why is Mad Max and many other games locked to 30fps on it?
@@UltraCasualPenguin lol why you bringing up old games like mad max? Plus why you mentioning irrelevant games like hi rush and ori games hahahah
@@samw2670 Tell me some relevant games then. Please, no dad simulators.
Xbox wins again.
Lol 🤡
Does this amateur not know that AMD Freesync is VRR? Makes a video thinking both are different 🤣. And yes anyone who actually knows, there are different implementations of VRR but they all strive to do the same thing
does this pedantic amateur not know that Freesync is vrr, as is g-sync's "VRR". they branded their TV variant vrr "VRR" all caps.
If my tv is 120H and xbox x is 120..shoudl i use gsync or freestnc premium? For lowest latency? Also have vrr off on xboxx. Idk just want low latency an these settings not sure about at all
Looking forward to more analysis of game performance! Curious, what legacy games were you eager to test now that VRR is available on PS5? I'm wondering about MGSV, GT Sport, Sekiro and BF4. Thank you for your content GT!
Have some disappointing news for you. VRR does not work on any PS4 game.
@@richardfranklin6003 Dang! Well, do you think some of those PS4 games will achieve a locked or optimal framerate on PS5?
@@upsetduck7566
Any game with an unlocked framerate or a target 60fps framerate runs at locked 60fps on PS5. All the games you listed are locked 60fps on PS5 and you don't need VRR. In truth a game "needing" VRR is not a good thing, it means that the game doesn't run at the target 60fps or 120fps. VRR is a only useful if the game doesn't run at 60fps or 120fps.
@@Stephen_Black
Ps4 pro version of Elden Ring is the only version of the game that runs 60fps locked. AC games all run 60fps, Monster Hunter World also runs 60fps, Ys also runs 60fps. No need to cover all the way down to 40fps with VRR because most games never dip that low and those that do (Elden Ring) are so bad performance wise that it doesn't make sense to run the ps5 version, you would use the Ps4 version instead where the framerateis locked. All PS4 games with a 60fps mode are locked 60, only PS5 versions of games dip below 60fps and almost never if the game is properly optimized for PS5 (Ratchet and Clank, TLOU1 remake, Uncharted collection, and Demon Souls). As far as the YU422 issue, on my LG C1 it only whichs to that if you are in 120fps mode, but the series X does the same thing in 120fps mode, for basic 4k 60fps you should be getting 4:4:4 RGB.
I have a pc with a Radeon 6800 XT and even if you enable Freesync Premium on the LG C1 in the Radeon Software it shows it as VRR. I think it may have something to do with HDMI 2.1
I have a 240hz 1080p monitor with Freesync and when connected via Display Port in the driver it shows it as Freesync Premium pro and on my other 1440p G-Sync/Freesync monitor it shows it as VRR as well. I have done some testing and from what I can see there is no difference whether the driver treats the display as VRR or Freesync. It's pretty much the same thing from what I've seen.
Thank you!
Vincent from HDTV also touched on this when talking about LG C9's VRR support and that the lack of freesync didn't matter (like you said) on a TV that has Hdmi 2.1!
But that Freesync works with 2.0 and below is new to me thx!
The only thing i am still bit confused about is the range of LFC and when it kicks in ect. I tried Guardians of the Galaxy (30fps) on PS5 but no difference with forced VRR or OFF
...the same awful stutter!
Ich denke abgesehen von mir würden sich noch viele freuen wenn du da etwas mehr Klarheit noch verschaffen könntest, weil noch sehr viel Verwirrung herrscht wie du sicher auch bemerkt hast!
Nochmals danke für die tollen Videos Markus! ;)
Yup the power of the mind makes people believe garbage.
Lfc to my knowledge doesn't work/ isn't implemented on the ps5 which is a big problem
@@richardfranklin6003 I never claimed that ps5 works with lfc or not? I said i could not reproduce it and that ppl and i sure would appreciate to get more info on that! If you know something we don't than share
instead of belittling!
@@ItzLnX i honestly don't know how the ps5 handles Lfc or at all even?
@@SAIIIURAI only on a software level when developers implement it from what I understand. Basically only insomniac games in fidelity mode ( spiderman and ratched and clanck). Heard it on digital foundry.
Maybe some other games too if they had a vrr patch, which only a handful did.
*Doesn't freesync support frame rates as low as 40fps/hz, while hdmi VRR only goes down to 48hz? You should test this.*
VRR and Freesync range from LG side is 40-120 (check EDID with PC). The lower range of 48 Hz comes from the PS5 side for VRR.
@@cvzone The older ones from LG are 40. The newer sets C1 onwards are from 20 hz not 40.
@@cvzone 20-120 on C1 and up actually.
@@shutitfukface I thought 20hz was only for G-sync, and freesync doesn't go as low?
@@benyboybob Gsync is from 30hz to maximum refresh rate. Gsync Ultimate (requires module in monitor/TV) is from 1hz to maximum refresh rate.
I discovered that having freesync on my cx, my series x's aspect ratio changes where when i check the calibration via the console, the green line border is extended beyond the viewable display and games hud is clipping through the edges. When disabled everything is fine.
Hopefully we get more updates for VRR on the ps5. It would be amazing if they implement it into the ps3. Would save emulation.
It is the same
Do you keep vrr on at all times on Xbox series X & PS5?
It is on all the time yes
@@GamingTech-RUclips thanks for the quick reply! Love your content man!
Please share if you can. Thank you!
@@GamingTech-RUclips will do!
Buying a new gaming monitor for my Xbox series X and wanted to know what the difference was. Thanks for this video!!👍👍
vrr and freesync are so confusing..
the difference as far as i know that freesync doesn't require hdmi 2.1 and have LFC
while hdmi 2.1VRR have 48-60hz window and LFC must be implemented by the game itself
am i right?
That means when i have a cheap TV without any VRR, Freesync... only 60FPS - when i have a strong GPU that doesnt drop under 60FPS and when i limit to the 60FPS via the Nvidia Panel i shouldnt have stutters and the experience should be good/consistent? Thanks for the video! 💙
What is the difference between freesync and vrr?
Nobody seems to actually know. 😂 NGL I've had my series x and new C3 oled for weeks now and all I have done is spend time on picture settings, VRR freesync or gsync? HDR or Dolby vision? Having to change picture settings for games, movies and RUclips is tiring me out. I miss the old days. There are just too many fucking options 😢
I have a Samsung qr70 with freesync 2.0. Will do 120hrz at 1440p and 60hrz at 4k. The Series X will not allow me to turn on VRR. Always wondered if I was actually benefitting from freesync. Sounds like it is working if you can't run them together anyway.
This is the third time I tell you, but I tell you again: I really like your channel and the way you explain to us VRR, HDR... I'm becoming an expert thanks to you haha. Keep the good work!! Regards from Spain!
Freesync on XBSX and the LG C2 is working great…
You are the best man talking about things like that keep going man u deserve a lot
The problem is DMC5. It has been patched for PS5. It is untouched for Xbox
Xbox got a VRR update for devil may cry a few days ago!
when I wanted to use VRR insteat of Gsync compatible ,I couldn't find anything about it. I've only been told once that Gsync Compatible is nothing more than VRR over HDMI 2.1.
Gsync is doing the same as Freesync over HDMI. I think it is actual the same. Just a different name
In case of the LG TVs "gsync compatible" and "HDMI VRR" is completely the same.
Kurze Frage ich bin echt ein Amateur. Hhh
Kann ich beides an machen?
AMD und Vrr freesync
Should i turn on both or 1of them on C1 Series X?
I have a 2080ti in my pc. How I can activate native Gsync on my CX TV. Ob my info screen it calls VRR and not Gsync.
you need to turn it on in the pc trough the nvidia control panel and the tv will auto detect
@@johnm4397 hmmm I have activated in control panel, both options. Window mode and full screen. I have only the info VRR.
I tried later with completely reinstalling the vga driver
@@m.weisertag3916 VRR all caps IS g-sync. kinda misleading.
G-sync is by far the best, has the greatest range and found it just works better than the others
G sync is just plain vrr
G sync ultimate on the other hand is amasing
Can i disable AMD freesync pro in my monitor on the PS5 and still benefit from vrr through hdmi 2.1?
Ps5 doesn’t support freesync
@@ChamaUFC300 where's your source from lol!?
@@kingliukang4life895 sony you fuckin bozo the only console with freesync is xbox. Sony just recently supported VRR in a update few months ago.
@@kingliukang4life895 if you have a ps5 do u see freesync settings how stupid are u
@@kingliukang4life895 Freesync is done through DirectX or Vulcan.
Neither API is used on PS5.
Did you deactivate vrr in xbox settings to use freesync?
no, it has to be activated to use vrr or freesync. you can activate freesync on your LG OLED TV
@@GamingTech-RUclips in my case I use freesync with vrr disabled, and I think it works better than vrr enableded on the xbox. Because you let the TV do that and the console is not trying to override it. But I might be wrong, I'm not an expert just a enthusiast
@@xufreee Sorry I don't understand. When you disable vrr on the Xbox it will also disable freesync. The TV is not doing anything you can just ask the TV to use freesync if available from the console. VRR on the xbox means freesync!
@@GamingTech-RUclips I see. In my tv I can activate freesync with vrr disabled on my Xbox. Maybe it is doing nothing. I have a hisense u7k
Verbal refresh rate? Must be a new method 😂
Xbox doesn’t support free sync
Xbox supports AMD Freesync and also AMD Freesync Premium
Yes it does
@Gamer And where did you get that from?
@Gamer What TV are you using with Freesync?
@Gamer and what TV do you have? Because I have not seen this on my C1 or C2.
my vrr information just says fixed is that ok or?
Freesync is supposed to help with screen tearing and that type of stuff so in theory "better together"
VRR and Freesync is the same. You just need one. You can't use them together
@@GamingTech-RUclips ^Exactly.
@@GamingTech-RUclips so freesync is literally just vrr??
@@demarus_cousins6382 AMD's version of VRR