I started out in LE in 1979 with a similar setup. My main holster gun was a 4-inch Model 19, with a Model 49 in my left front uniform trouser pocket. I had the uniform shop double up the pocket lining to support the weight of the Bodyguard. I still have both guns. Although like everyone else I went to semi-autos for work, now that I'm retired and do not go into harm's way on purpose anymore, I'd probably be fine with my two original revolvers.
I also began my LEO career in the 80's carrying 357 and 38. I was glad we switched to 9's and then 40's. Now in retirement, nothing is easier to conceal than a J frame . I normally carry a 9 now but I have a couple of 2inch 38's in reserve. Even with LEOSA/HR 218, it's a lot easier when traveling through NJ/NY with a revolver. Don't have to worry about magazine limitations or hollow point restrictions.
Back in the day, in your class I demo'd all 6 shots at 100+ yard steel out of my DAO 2" mod. 10 with regular combat sights. That said, IMO the killer app is to have a snub when you're scrambling with the perp. Lots of things can go wrong with semi-auto that the revolver is immune to.
I carry a Ruger LCRx with Crimson Trace grips - CCW permit holder, FL for 20yrs. I can score consistent hits at combat distances (10yd +/-) all day long. I'm a civilian who doesn't go stupid places at stupid times. It's fine for me. I big reason I carry a snubby is it's easy and comfortable, for me at least. I would like more revolver content Paul. Thanks for an excellent video.
Revolvers may be outdated, but they are still just plain cool. Some are beautiful like looking at a work of art. I still carry a model 60 when Im on the beach all day.
Good video. I have a 2.75 inch S&W M69 for woods walking. Weighs the same as a 4 inch Model 19. Recoil is brisk but Pachmayr Diamond grips takes the sting out.
Revolvers discourage the spray and pray mentality.....you have between 5-8 shots depending on what frame size you use. You have to make every shot count
I agree with you in the revolvers. As a LEO I never carried one as a duty gun, but did a Backup. I was so a Firearms instructor , and our corrections officer still carried revolvers , so we had to qualify with them also. I carry revolvers still. Pocket gun , now a Purse gun for my wife a S&W340sc. In the woods I carry a S&W governor mostly for snakes in swamps of central Florida. And from time to time I will still carry a S&W 386PD, 7 shot , 357/38 that weighs 20oz’s so it’s light to carry in Florida. I would love to see more revolver content.
Couldn't agree with you more in this area. I don't find myself in a scenario where I am potentially stalked by larger predators, but if I were I think I'd be quite comfortable with something like a Smith Wesson model 29 on my hip. Won't get into 10mm vs 44 magnum, but I can tell the malfunction clearing procedure as you know on the 29 is just "pull the trigger again". As for a hideout/backup, I carry a Smith & Wesson Model 38 +P Bodyguard AirWeight. Bought it to replace a beautiful vintage Model 36 Chief Special I was ruining with holster wear and sweat. It now sits in the safe. Thanks for the video.
I live in grizzly country and occasionally find them on my property. The bruins are of such mass that no handgun is adequate for taking them down unless you make solid, well-placed hits. In such a case, projectile size and velocity are not nearly as important as is bullet construction. I only carry the heaviest hard cast flat tipped solids and FMJs I can find. All indications are the newer Xtreme Penetrators should also work well, but I have not tested them. I usually carry a Glock 10mm, but I don't delude myself into thinking I will get off a dozen or more shots into one if he charges me. I do believe if you ever find yourself in a wrestling match with a bear, a revolver will have a definite advantage over a semi auto because it is more likely to work if pressed against his hide. The problem remains however, that unless your rounds find a vital artery or organ that immediately incapacitates the beast, you are likely to be seriously mauled or worse.
Nothing wrong with a good wheelgun. My snub .38 was instrumental to stopping the principal actor in a barfight that I had to deal with. Long story short, the shrouded barrel of a late Colt does fit up someone's nostrils
Great video thank you, new subscriber, I used to live in the northeast and places I would go hiking or fishing did have black bears, bobcats and coyotes so I would carry a 357 revolver, now living in the southeast I will carry them with snake shot rounds when out in the woods. When you were in the LA Sheriff Department, did you know Jesse Romero? I listen to him on Catholic radio and I think he was serving there in the 1980's & 1990's.
Wheel guns will always have a place. Love j frames, most civilians would be better off with one then nothing most people carry. Light, small, simple to operate, reliable, no mags to lose. 👍👍
Great video and great content. Revolvers are not dead or ancient technology, especially for the everyday CCW. We'd love to see more of your experiences with wheelguns.
Revolvers are still evolving....7-8 round cylinders, revolvers that place the barrel at 6 o clock, cylinders cut for moon clips all late design changes for the wheel gun not dead at all
I became a LA deputy in 89 and was issued a Model 15. Bought a 49 as a back up/off duty gun. I love my J frames. Own several makes and models of semi autos but J frames are still my favorites.
I was a cop in CA for 30 years. SFPD. I agree with most of what you are saying here. You are right about the 44 mag for wilderness travel. It is a very effective handgun for predators. There are 2 problems with it however. One it is very expensive. More so than a Glock 10mm for instance. Two it is more than most shooters can effectively deliver rapid followup shots. I carry the Glock 10mm when I travel in bear country for those reasons. The 10mm with 200 g bear loads recoils much like a 357 mag IMO and it was a lot less money. And I can get in 14 followup shots with good accuracy without reloading. I remember carrying the primary revolver and the backup in the pants pocket as well. Gone are the days. I still carry a S&W 340 PD in my hoodie front pocket as a backup or hideout gun. A G45 is my main gun. Thanks for a good video.
Chucke Outdoors ran a test and found greater accuracy and greater volume of fire with the 10mm vs the 44 mag. The 10mm was commisioned for use against bear by one of the Scandinavian Country
I started in 1970 carrying a revolver and still do. I have a 686+ and a 66 and started with a S&W Model 15. Airweights backup or general carry in certain areas.
Started my career in 1968 & was issued a Colt Official Police that went into evidence following an on duty shooting. My issued revolver saved me twice more before I retired 30 yrs later. My agency transitioned to the Glock 19 sometime in the late ‘80s, but I still like revolvers.
I felt better carrying a revolver when I found out that most all civilian shootings are resolved in 3-5 rounds, and reloads are almost unheard of. I still carry a speedloader though.
Love my 642 Airweight, has the SI face shooter kit installed. I currently have 7-8 revolvers. My hunting gun is a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in 45 Colt.
revolvers can help save money too, instead of dumping 15? rd mag after 15 rd mag down range, buy a 50 rd box, perform a 50 rd training drill, loading 5/6 at a time.
LOL...true...but that is a matter of mindset. My classes...three days...rarely exceed 500 rounds. But I actually teach instead of just run mindless brass making drills.
I never carried a revolver as a duty gun. But a S&W Airweight was my BUG. I never needed it thankfully, but I came really close once. I agree, the snubby still has a place, and for me that’s an ankle or pocket holster as a BUG. I would love to hear some old school cop stories. I came on in 2008, and some of the senior guys still around had carried revolvers (S&W model 28 .357 magnums). Most, if not all, are retired now. I have 15 years on and I am starting to feel like the old guy. It’s changed a lot in the past few years and not for the better.
I made 50 yard hits on 2 liter bottles with some of my revolvers. The other ones that are not reworked it is hard to hit a one foot square at 25 yards. Right now instead of buying new S&W's I will send some to a gunsmith for upgrading. Also have been building up a stockpile for the range.
I'd rather shoot a revolver than a auto I just think they're better I'm sure people will argue that but that's just my opion. I'm happy to hear someone else who remembers that revolvers are also pistoles
I am a Revolver Man, ( sorry Jeff, love my Dave Lauck customised 1911,but S&W 686 ,. 357 is my go to or for every day My Ruger Speed Six, "4 bbl, 357 its Light, and Bianchi 6 shot Speed Strips, Seriously how many gun fights was I in last Night or the Night before?? Having shot people before.. Every Rd fired Cops want to know how many rds fired, and each Rd. has a Separate Law Suit attached to it. Just the Facts of Western Civilization USA in its Death/Senility Phase, Brandon, a Caricature of USA in that phase, (Hollywood Script Writers could not make this up).
I still carry revolvers . If I need more than six shots , I carry either a or if 80 s vintage Colt Agents or a S&W 3 inch k frame and a Colt Detective Soecial. Carry two speed loaders and a couple of Bianchi speed strips. Yeah I have semi autos, but in my state civilians , who are the first in fight against violent criminals are mag limited to 10 rounds. That being said, I can put more accurate rounds on target with a wheel gun, than most can with a semiauto. Reading the paper , I see a lot of reports of gunfights between police and criminals, with a lot of rounds fired and not a lot of serious hits. One reason is older officers and civilians were trained with lesser capacity firearms , where accuracy was more important than the number of rounds in the air. Better to end the fight with the first two of six than the last two of 15
Getting my hands on a Ruger gp100 wiley clapp talo edition 357mag in 3"barrel Hawkeye matted finish.. I do like that S&W 686 you got there.. does it come in a 3" barrel? But I decided to get the Ruger for our time up in our mtns camping, fishing, hiking. We live in western state Colorado and yes we are on the food chain ourselves 1hour drive in any direction so we will have good times and with confidence being up there for our getaways. Nice informative video sir, oh and my ammo will be federal premium hammerdown 357mag 170gr bhp, we also own a Henry big boy All Weather in 357mag and we'll be cycling the ammo for both for the power and easy on choice of using one type for both weapons.
Revolvers remain popular with certain elements in society due to their reduced forensic fingerprint (they don’t drop brass everywhere) and their ability to be reliably fired repeatedly from within a pocket (at least when configured with a shrouded or bobbed hammer).
Small autoloaders have become more reliable over the years but still require careful attention to spring replacement to maintain reliability. Snubbies can be left in a drawer for years and fire when needed
@@mikey3800 true but auto loading pistols can’t be fired repeatedly from within a pocket as the reciprocation of the slide will almost certainly encounter interference from the close material of the pocket and there’s still the forensic footprint of ejected spent brass
@@nbonner75 James from TFB did a demo on this matter....Yeah I am aware of the snubby ability to fire from a pocket. I'm thinking the lcr or taurus 327 would be a good pick from the pocket though I lean Ruger for that choice. Another would be a kimber k6s or Colt Cobra if you don't like the 327. There are a few choices and that tells me the Snubby is alive and well
My east coast woods gun is a 357, or a hot loaded 45 Colt. A revolver is still a niche gun for ccw. Of currently made revolvers I would carry a Colt Cobra rated for plus p. Loaded with plus p Buffalo Bore 158lhp it flies out of the 2 inch barrel at 1050 fps. That GIVES you the stopping power of 45 ball ammo or better. Lacks the blast and flash of 357 from a short barrel. Can be carried in belt or in pocket with right grips.Most civilian victims can successfully defend themselves with a 2 inch revolver. It follows the rule of 3. 3 shots or less at 3 yards in 3 seconds.Key is practice. I know I can hit as well with a 2 inch Colt as most can with a 4 inch service revolver. No brag, just a fact. Years of practice. Thank you for your service
Love the revolver for non-TID personal defense encounters. Also in winter when aggressors have THICK layers of clothing on I do OWB carry 357 magnum revolver. The other 10 months a year 9mm does it. Oh, and Colonel Cooper calling grips “stocks” always makes we wonder. Doubt you can make money going on a revolver track.
I'm with you as far as bears go give me a Ruger Super Blackhawk seven and half inch barrel and I would not be scared to go anywhere. The older Smith &Wesson Revolvers are hard to beat and I had a new model 442 that was accurate enough to pop a snakes head off .
I am transitioning back to a revolver myself. I have reached the age where I don't want all the hassles of an autoloader. Revolver simplicity. A small J frame .38Spl. +P three inch. If I have good marksmanship whether autoloader or revolver then capacity does not matter as much since in most real world shooting cases only two to three rounds on average are fired to stop a threat. I am responsible for every round that leaves my gun as a lawyer is attached to every bullet. Yes I need as many rounds as I need to stop a threat but if I can't get it done with six shots and two reloads totaling 18 rounds then capacity is not the problem.
Being armed and ready is the first rule and the most important shot fired is your first. Revolvers are still useful and relevant in those respects and in 2023 a J frame lightweight type is the equivalent of late 19th Century derringer, which accounted for quite a body count at close quarters in its time.
@@mikey3800 A smooth draw and presentation on target for that first shot is still fast with a d/a revolver or a modern da/sa or striker fired pistol. A mugging, armed robbery, or carjacking, is at close quarters, for the victim to hand over or be stripped of their valuables. At extended ranges where a protracted firefight with numbers of participants might occur the large standard capacity pistol excels but with face to face encounters at hand to hand combat distances revolvers still have relevance. After 5 or 6 shots you'll likely have been killed if you have not dispatched the 1, 2, or 3 assailants.
@@richardkluesek4301 If you check out Active Self Protection once the shooting starts the assailants usually scatter. I'm guessing they did not come for a gunfight
@@mikey3800 Wyatt used revolvers most of his life and passed away during the 1920s so he would have known of and maybe had early semiautomatic pistols. Though never in a gunfight I knew a few on either side of the law who were, cops, outlaws, and armed civilian defenders, and some of them were kia during my 40 years of self employment and being licensed to carry in NYC. My observations are based on their experiences as told to me. I carried a Colt Commander .45 and / or a .38 Special Colt Detective Special. The most common guns were S&W K and J frames and WW2 era pocket pistols, Colt D frames, and then the Glocks after 1994.
My experience with snubby revolvers has been S&W J frames as you state are up close revolvers, while the Colt D frames feel and shoot like a mid sized revolver, better sights and grip. The only S&W J frame 38 I still have is better than the older ones I had. Better sights, plus p rated 60-7. Colt d frames even my Agents shoot better for-me than the older J frames. Colt should bring back a 2 inch plus p rated alloy hammer shroudedD frame. ?Colt New model Agent
Revolvers are most definitely still a reliable option, especially in non 2nd amendment states. Where your freedoms are restricted to the slavery governments.
A 44 magnum is stronger than a 10 mm but ballistically there's really not much difference. That said, I'll take 15 rounds on tap of 10 mm over 6 rounds of 44.
I ended up selling all my polymer for debt reasons, but snagged a Ruger Sp101 3” for cheap. Ordered a simply rugged holster. Absolutely love it, sometimes I have a loose holster I place the 101 in, and put that in a fanny pack or sling bag. Also have a ruger lcr. Hate the trigger of the lcr, but after watching this video, I will start carrying it for backup. Maybe I will get an ankle holster. Ideally I would like to get GP100, 6x 357 with a 4” barrel. Mostly a bag or truck gun Sp101 3” Wiley Clapp edition as it comes worked on and with better sights Sell off the lcr to get a chiefs special as long as the S&W has a better trigger I have been scouring the internet for forums for old timer training tips and tricks. The information is limited and you almost have to “in” to get to what you’re looking for. Would love it if you could post how you carried, what drills you did, combat reloads (reload 2-3 then bring your firearm up, vs try to load all 5/6 and the risks associated with each… especially after what happened at Miami Dade shootout 1986) We would love more history. I do think the revolver is still a working man and woman’s gun. It’s still practical… personally I’d rather the majority of people packing wheel guns over only a few poor trained carrying 30-60 rounds. How do you train for accuracy with revolvers? Snap caps? (empty cartridges, drill out the primer slightly, heat up wax in a tray, set the cartridge rim in the warm wax, once it sets, set in a new primer, then when you fire you get the “pop”, the wax flies out to hit the pie pan, and you can see how accurate you are at a much lower cost)… Bring out the good old school stuff, what do you know? Bring in an old mentor who loves wheel guns, do a duo episode talking specifically wheel guns and tactics. Bring old gear, books, resources, we’d love it!
Ah.....yes it is Nostra. Look it up. A handgun is in fact a pistol. There are matchlock pistols, flintlock pistols, revolving pistols of cap and ball, revolving pistols of single and double action, and semi automatic pistols of single and double action. The word comes from the Italian. A town named Pistoia, where it is said Pietro Beretta built the very first handgun.
(13 pros and 13 cons of carrying a J frame) (Pros) (1)No failures to feed (2)No failures to eject (3)No slide to rack (4)No safety (5)Can fire from the inside of a purse or pocket (6)Safe double action trigger (7)Snag free (8)Can remain snag free in double/single action configurations (9)No magazine release to accidentally engage (10)Cannot be put out of battery as easily in a scuffle (11)Extremely light weight (12)No chance of a limp wrist (13)Less maintenance (Cons) (1)Low capacity (2)Significantly slower reloads (3)While EXTREMELY rare revolver malfunctions do exist but are typically CATASTROPHIC (4)Less rugged than an automatic (5)More difficult to accurately place shots (6)Heavy trigger (7)Cylinder blast (8)Pain of disassembly (9)Heavy recoil (10)Cost of ammunition (11)Lack of ammunition at the store (12)Lack of aftermarket customization (13)No factory rear sights
I started out in LE in 1979 with a similar setup. My main holster gun was a 4-inch Model 19, with a Model 49 in my left front uniform trouser pocket. I had the uniform shop double up the pocket lining to support the weight of the Bodyguard. I still have both guns. Although like everyone else I went to semi-autos for work, now that I'm retired and do not go into harm's way on purpose anymore, I'd probably be fine with my two original revolvers.
I was hired by LA Sheriff in 88. Model 15 and a model 49.
More revolver content would be awesome. Especially deep concealment issues, tips, etc.
I also began my LEO career in the 80's carrying 357 and 38. I was glad we switched to 9's and then 40's. Now in retirement, nothing is easier to conceal than a J frame . I normally carry a 9 now but I have a couple of 2inch 38's in reserve.
Even with LEOSA/HR 218, it's a lot easier when traveling through NJ/NY with a revolver. Don't have to worry about magazine limitations or hollow point restrictions.
They make 9mm Js now
Back in the day, in your class I demo'd all 6 shots at 100+ yard steel out of my DAO 2" mod. 10 with regular combat sights. That said, IMO the killer app is to have a snub when you're scrambling with the perp. Lots of things can go wrong with semi-auto that the revolver is immune to.
I carry a Ruger LCRx with Crimson Trace grips - CCW permit holder, FL for 20yrs. I can score consistent hits at combat distances (10yd +/-) all day long. I'm a civilian who doesn't go stupid places at stupid times. It's fine for me. I big reason I carry a snubby is it's easy and comfortable, for me at least. I would like more revolver content Paul. Thanks for an excellent video.
Revolvers may be outdated, but they are still just plain cool. Some are beautiful like looking at a work of art. I still carry a model 60 when Im on the beach all day.
Good video. I have a 2.75 inch S&W M69 for woods walking. Weighs the same as a 4 inch Model 19. Recoil is brisk but Pachmayr Diamond grips takes the sting out.
Revolvers discourage the spray and pray mentality.....you have between 5-8 shots depending on what frame size you use. You have to make every shot count
Yes. Please include more revolvers content. How do your S&W revolvers stack up with the Ruger LCR snub nose types? What’s your opinion of them?
I agree with you in the revolvers. As a LEO I never carried one as a duty gun, but did a Backup. I was so a Firearms instructor , and our corrections officer still carried revolvers , so we had to qualify with them also. I carry revolvers still. Pocket gun , now a Purse gun for my wife a S&W340sc. In the woods I carry a S&W governor mostly for snakes in swamps of central Florida. And from time to time I will still carry a S&W 386PD, 7 shot , 357/38 that weighs 20oz’s so it’s light to carry in Florida.
I would love to see more revolver content.
Couldn't agree with you more in this area. I don't find myself in a scenario where I am potentially stalked by larger predators, but if I were I think I'd be quite comfortable with something like a Smith Wesson model 29 on my hip. Won't get into 10mm vs 44 magnum, but I can tell the malfunction clearing procedure as you know on the 29 is just "pull the trigger again".
As for a hideout/backup, I carry a Smith & Wesson Model 38 +P Bodyguard AirWeight. Bought it to replace a beautiful vintage Model 36 Chief Special I was ruining with holster wear and sweat. It now sits in the safe.
Thanks for the video.
Always a man worth listening to.
I live in grizzly country and occasionally find them on my property. The bruins are of such mass that no handgun is adequate for taking them down unless you make solid, well-placed hits. In such a case, projectile size and velocity are not nearly as important as is bullet construction. I only carry the heaviest hard cast flat tipped solids and FMJs I can find. All indications are the newer Xtreme Penetrators should also work well, but I have not tested them. I usually carry a Glock 10mm, but I don't delude myself into thinking I will get off a dozen or more shots into one if he charges me. I do believe if you ever find yourself in a wrestling match with a bear, a revolver will have a definite advantage over a semi auto because it is more likely to work if pressed against his hide. The problem remains however, that unless your rounds find a vital artery or organ that immediately incapacitates the beast, you are likely to be seriously mauled or worse.
Totally impressed with those trigger weights and still getting reliable ignition
Nothing wrong with a good wheelgun. My snub .38 was instrumental to stopping the principal actor in a barfight that I had to deal with.
Long story short, the shrouded barrel of a late Colt does fit up someone's nostrils
Another vote for more revolver thoughts... thanks Gabe
Great video thank you, new subscriber, I used to live in the northeast and places I would go hiking or fishing did have black bears, bobcats and coyotes so I would carry a 357 revolver, now living in the southeast I will carry them with snake shot rounds when out in the woods. When you were in the LA Sheriff Department, did you know Jesse Romero? I listen to him on Catholic radio and I think he was serving there in the 1980's & 1990's.
Many thanks Gabe for this short lecture. I like the revolvers, too; they have their place in the gunfight continuum.
Hey Gabe! I recall you from a Gunsite class in 1988 (250), or 1990 (350)! Hope all is well Brother. Immediately subscribed to your channel. DVC.
Babe thank you for your advice and knowledge. You are one of few who I trust what you say. You have the Knowledge, Skills, abilities, and experience.
More wheel gun love
More revolver content would be appreciated. Have 2 Dan Wesson .357s, w/4" and 8" barrels. Long barrel is good backcountry carry.
retired LE. had a 686. nice "pistol." good flick, bud!
Great vid. I sometimes carry a 3” Ruger SP101 .357 which is a tank.
Wheel guns will always have a place. Love j frames, most civilians would be better off with one then nothing most people carry. Light, small, simple to operate, reliable, no mags to lose. 👍👍
and Gabe...Yes I would always like to hear more wheelgun stories
Great video and great content. Revolvers are not dead or ancient technology, especially for the everyday CCW. We'd love to see more of your experiences with wheelguns.
Revolvers are still evolving....7-8 round cylinders, revolvers that place the barrel at 6 o clock, cylinders cut for moon clips all late design changes for the wheel gun not dead at all
Absolutely love this type of content Mr. Suarez! Please keep it coming
I became a LA deputy in 89 and was issued a Model 15. Bought a 49 as a back up/off duty gun. I love my J frames. Own several makes and models of semi autos but J frames are still my favorites.
I was a cop in CA for 30 years. SFPD. I agree with most of what you are saying here. You are right about the 44 mag for wilderness travel. It is a very effective handgun for predators. There are 2 problems with it however. One it is very expensive. More so than a Glock 10mm for instance. Two it is more than most shooters can effectively deliver rapid followup shots. I carry the Glock 10mm when I travel in bear country for those reasons. The 10mm with 200 g bear loads recoils much like a 357 mag IMO and it was a lot less money. And I can get in 14 followup shots with good accuracy without reloading. I remember carrying the primary revolver and the backup in the pants pocket as well. Gone are the days. I still carry a S&W 340 PD in my hoodie front pocket as a backup or hideout gun. A G45 is my main gun. Thanks for a good video.
Chucke Outdoors ran a test and found greater accuracy and greater volume of fire with the 10mm vs the 44 mag. The 10mm was commisioned for use against bear by one of the Scandinavian Country
IMO which ever you master best is the one you carry, both are darn effective!
I started in 1970 carrying a revolver and still do. I have a 686+ and a 66 and started with a S&W Model 15. Airweights backup or general carry in certain areas.
Please do talk more about revolvers. Thank you.
Great video! I love revolvers, more content please
Good video, more revolver stuff is appreciated.
Started my career in 1968 & was issued a Colt Official Police that went into evidence following an on duty shooting. My issued revolver saved me twice more before I retired 30 yrs later. My agency transitioned to the Glock 19 sometime in the late ‘80s, but I still like revolvers.
You conquer the opposing army with glocks. You execute their general with a fine revolver.
I have an amazing Colt Agent from the early 80s. Great pocket gun for working around the house.
Issued S&W 65 when started LE in 1992
Sam the revolver aficionado has a great video of 15 benefits of a revolver over a semi auto. Wheel guns ain't dead.
Since the wheelgun hold less, you have to keep the reload in mind
I felt better carrying a revolver when I found out that most all civilian shootings are resolved in 3-5 rounds, and reloads are almost unheard of.
I still carry a speedloader though.
GunSam is one of the best revolvers channels on YT
Big fan of wheelies.
Love my 642 Airweight, has the SI face shooter kit installed. I currently have 7-8 revolvers. My hunting gun is a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in 45 Colt.
revolvers can help save money too, instead of dumping 15? rd mag after 15 rd mag down range, buy a 50 rd box, perform a 50 rd training drill, loading 5/6 at a time.
LOL...true...but that is a matter of mindset. My classes...three days...rarely exceed 500 rounds. But I actually teach instead of just run mindless brass making drills.
I never carried a revolver as a duty gun. But a S&W Airweight was my BUG. I never needed it thankfully, but I came really close once. I agree, the snubby still has a place, and for me that’s an ankle or pocket holster as a BUG.
I would love to hear some old school cop stories. I came on in 2008, and some of the senior guys still around had carried revolvers (S&W model 28 .357 magnums). Most, if not all, are retired now.
I have 15 years on and I am starting to feel like the old guy. It’s changed a lot in the past few years and not for the better.
I have 2 snubbies 38S & 327Mag. Just bought a vintage model 64-3 4-inch w/bobbed hammer.
I made 50 yard hits on 2 liter bottles with some of my revolvers. The other ones that are not reworked it is hard to hit a one foot square at 25 yards. Right now instead of buying new S&W's I will send some to a gunsmith for upgrading. Also have been building up a stockpile for the range.
Nice vid Sir!
Love revolvers they don't jam up
I'd rather shoot a revolver than a auto I just think they're better I'm sure people will argue that but that's just my opion. I'm happy to hear someone else who remembers that revolvers are also pistoles
I am a Revolver Man, ( sorry Jeff, love my Dave Lauck customised 1911,but S&W 686 ,. 357 is my go to or for every day
My Ruger Speed Six, "4 bbl, 357 its Light, and
Bianchi 6 shot Speed Strips, Seriously how many gun fights was I in last Night or the Night before?? Having
shot people before.. Every Rd fired Cops want to know how many rds fired, and each Rd. has a Separate Law Suit attached to it. Just the Facts of Western Civilization USA in its Death/Senility Phase, Brandon, a Caricature of USA in that phase, (Hollywood Script Writers could not make this up).
I still carry revolvers . If I need more than six shots , I carry either a or if 80 s vintage Colt Agents or a S&W 3 inch k frame and a Colt Detective Soecial. Carry two speed loaders and a couple of Bianchi speed strips. Yeah I have semi autos, but in my state civilians , who are the first in fight against violent criminals are mag limited to 10 rounds. That being said, I can put more accurate rounds on target with a wheel gun, than most can with a semiauto. Reading the paper , I see a lot of reports of gunfights between police and criminals, with a lot of rounds fired and not a lot of serious hits. One reason is older officers and civilians were trained with lesser capacity firearms , where accuracy was more important than the number of rounds in the air. Better to end the fight with the first two of six than the last two of 15
Getting my hands on a Ruger gp100 wiley clapp talo edition 357mag in 3"barrel Hawkeye matted finish.. I do like that S&W 686 you got there.. does it come in a 3" barrel? But I decided to get the Ruger for our time up in our mtns camping, fishing, hiking. We live in western state Colorado and yes we are on the food chain ourselves 1hour drive in any direction so we will have good times and with confidence being up there for our getaways. Nice informative video sir, oh and my ammo will be federal premium hammerdown 357mag 170gr bhp, we also own a Henry big boy All Weather in 357mag and we'll be cycling the ammo for both for the power and easy on choice of using one type for both weapons.
Revolvers remain popular with certain elements in society due to their reduced forensic fingerprint (they don’t drop brass everywhere) and their ability to be reliably fired repeatedly from within a pocket (at least when configured with a shrouded or bobbed hammer).
And their ability to function reliably in close quarters grappling as well as the flexibility of power and bullet style.
Small autoloaders have become more reliable over the years but still require careful attention to spring replacement to maintain reliability. Snubbies can be left in a drawer for years and fire when needed
@@mikey3800 true but auto loading pistols can’t be fired repeatedly from within a pocket as the reciprocation of the slide will almost certainly encounter interference from the close material of the pocket and there’s still the forensic footprint of ejected spent brass
@@nbonner75 James from TFB did a demo on this matter....Yeah I am aware of the snubby ability to fire from a pocket. I'm thinking the lcr or taurus 327 would be a good pick from the pocket though I lean Ruger for that choice. Another would be a kimber k6s or Colt Cobra if you don't like the 327. There are a few choices and that tells me the Snubby is alive and well
@@mikey3800 I’ll have to go look for that video - thanks for mentioning it.
Bring on more revolver content.
How’s the lower back with that cheek carry?
I was issued a .38spl S&W M-10 and I bought a S&W 649 Bodyguard for back-up/ off duty use. That said, I carried a Glock 17 Gen 1 as soon as I could.
Great video! Please make more revolver themed videos!
My east coast woods gun is a 357, or a hot loaded 45 Colt. A revolver is still a niche gun for ccw. Of currently made revolvers I would carry a Colt Cobra rated for plus p. Loaded with plus p Buffalo Bore 158lhp it flies out of the 2 inch barrel at 1050 fps. That GIVES you the stopping power of 45 ball ammo or better. Lacks the blast and flash of 357 from a short barrel. Can be carried in belt or in pocket with right grips.Most civilian victims can successfully defend themselves with a 2 inch revolver. It follows the rule of 3. 3 shots or less at 3 yards in 3 seconds.Key is practice. I know I can hit as well with a 2 inch Colt as most can with a 4 inch service revolver. No brag, just a fact. Years of practice. Thank you for your service
Love the revolver for non-TID personal defense encounters. Also in winter when aggressors have THICK layers of clothing on I do OWB carry 357 magnum revolver. The other 10 months a year 9mm does it. Oh, and Colonel Cooper calling grips “stocks” always makes we wonder. Doubt you can make money going on a revolver track.
S&W calls them stocks also.
I just picked up a Colt King Corba 2" for my ankle gun
Snubby revolvers are better scuffle guns than semi-autos. Especially if the slide will be pushed out of battery.
love revolvers
As a Deputy in 1977 my first service pistol was a SW model 19, I still have it and love it, but don't shoot it much anymore. 357 ammo is pricy.
I'm with you as far as bears go give me a Ruger Super Blackhawk seven and half inch barrel and I would not be scared to go anywhere. The older Smith &Wesson Revolvers are hard to beat and I had a new model 442 that was accurate enough to pop a snakes head off .
I am transitioning back to a revolver myself. I have reached the age where I don't want all the hassles of an autoloader. Revolver simplicity. A small J frame .38Spl. +P three inch. If I have good marksmanship whether autoloader or revolver then capacity does not matter as much since in most real world shooting cases only two to three rounds on average are fired to stop a threat. I am responsible for every round that leaves my gun as a lawyer is attached to every bullet. Yes I need as many rounds as I need to stop a threat but if I can't get it done with six shots and two reloads totaling 18 rounds then capacity is not the problem.
I carried either a S&W M19 4" or a S&W M25 4" 45LC.Also a snub
Being armed and ready is the first rule and the most important shot fired is your first. Revolvers are still useful and relevant in those respects and in 2023 a J frame lightweight type is the equivalent of late 19th Century derringer, which accounted for quite a body count at close quarters in its time.
Exactly ...first on to a anatomical significant area generally will win. Most predators don't engage to get perforated, they come for easy pickins
@@mikey3800 A smooth draw and presentation on target for that first shot is still fast with a d/a revolver or a modern da/sa or striker fired pistol. A mugging, armed robbery, or carjacking, is at close quarters, for the victim to hand over or be stripped of their valuables. At extended ranges where a protracted firefight with numbers of participants might occur the large standard capacity pistol excels but with face to face encounters at hand to hand combat distances revolvers still have relevance. After 5 or 6 shots you'll likely have been killed if you have not dispatched the 1, 2, or 3 assailants.
@@richardkluesek4301 someone else said it best “Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry.” ― Wyatt Earp
@@richardkluesek4301 If you check out Active Self Protection once the shooting starts the assailants usually scatter. I'm guessing they did not come for a gunfight
@@mikey3800 Wyatt used revolvers most of his life and passed away during the 1920s so he would have known of and maybe had early semiautomatic pistols. Though never in a gunfight I knew a few on either side of the law who were, cops, outlaws, and armed civilian defenders, and some of them were kia during my 40 years of self employment and being licensed to carry in NYC. My observations are based on their experiences as told to me. I carried a Colt Commander .45 and / or a .38 Special Colt Detective Special. The most common guns were S&W K and J frames and WW2 era pocket pistols, Colt D frames, and then the Glocks after 1994.
I prefer my revolvers and every 686 I have is fantastic
My experience with snubby revolvers has been S&W J frames as you state are up close revolvers, while the Colt D frames feel and shoot like a mid sized revolver, better sights and grip. The only S&W J frame 38 I still have is better than the older ones I had. Better sights, plus p rated 60-7. Colt d frames even my Agents shoot better for-me than the older J frames. Colt should bring back a 2 inch plus p rated alloy hammer shroudedD frame. ?Colt New model Agent
Love the Pirate flag.
Nice f*#king video - Love my revolvers as-well
A version of that CZ was around in the 1980s. The problem was the admin, as usual.
If you carry an 18 shot semiauto, but you train to shoot 3 shots per target regardless of circumstances, then you're carrying a 6-shooter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Enjoyed the video, I seem to shoot revolvers better , than semiautomatics
Revolvers are most definitely still a reliable option, especially in non 2nd amendment states. Where your freedoms are restricted to the slavery governments.
A 44 magnum is stronger than a 10 mm but ballistically there's really not much difference. That said, I'll take 15 rounds on tap of 10 mm over 6 rounds of 44.
You may only get one shot on a charging bear with the 44....may be able to get 3 off with the 10mm
With that logic why not just carry a 9mm? There's far more difference between a .44 mag and a 10mm than between 9mm and 10mm .
I ended up selling all my polymer for debt reasons, but snagged a Ruger Sp101 3” for cheap. Ordered a simply rugged holster. Absolutely love it, sometimes I have a loose holster I place the 101 in, and put that in a fanny pack or sling bag. Also have a ruger lcr. Hate the trigger of the lcr, but after watching this video, I will start carrying it for backup. Maybe I will get an ankle holster.
Ideally I would like to get
GP100, 6x 357 with a 4” barrel. Mostly a bag or truck gun
Sp101 3” Wiley Clapp edition as it comes worked on and with better sights
Sell off the lcr to get a chiefs special as long as the S&W has a better trigger
I have been scouring the internet for forums for old timer training tips and tricks. The information is limited and you almost have to “in” to get to what you’re looking for. Would love it if you could post how you carried, what drills you did, combat reloads (reload 2-3 then bring your firearm up, vs try to load all 5/6 and the risks associated with each… especially after what happened at Miami Dade shootout 1986)
We would love more history. I do think the revolver is still a working man and woman’s gun. It’s still practical… personally I’d rather the majority of people packing wheel guns over only a few poor trained carrying 30-60 rounds. How do you train for accuracy with revolvers? Snap caps? (empty cartridges, drill out the primer slightly, heat up wax in a tray, set the cartridge rim in the warm wax, once it sets, set in a new primer, then when you fire you get the “pop”, the wax flies out to hit the pie pan, and you can see how accurate you are at a much lower cost)…
Bring out the good old school stuff, what do you know? Bring in an old mentor who loves wheel guns, do a duo episode talking specifically wheel guns and tactics. Bring old gear, books, resources, we’d love it!
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Sorry, I still carry my 357 Magnum for self defense too.
10mm is more equivalent to a good 357
If you are truly competent with that first shot... you will be OK. A hard hit bad guy doesn't fight well.
Revolver is not a “pistol”
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How is a revolver not a pistol?
Ah.....yes it is Nostra. Look it up. A handgun is in fact a pistol. There are matchlock pistols, flintlock pistols, revolving pistols of cap and ball, revolving pistols of single and double action, and semi automatic pistols of single and double action. The word comes from the Italian. A town named Pistoia, where it is said Pietro Beretta built the very first handgun.
Humm? Only a policeman would call the civilians he is policing the forces of evil.
He meant that for a particular species of civilian, as was obvious.
(13 pros and 13 cons of carrying a J frame)
(Pros)
(1)No failures to feed
(2)No failures to eject
(3)No slide to rack
(4)No safety
(5)Can fire from the inside of a purse or pocket
(6)Safe double action trigger
(7)Snag free
(8)Can remain snag free in double/single action configurations
(9)No magazine release to accidentally engage
(10)Cannot be put out of battery as easily in a scuffle
(11)Extremely light weight
(12)No chance of a limp wrist
(13)Less maintenance
(Cons)
(1)Low capacity
(2)Significantly slower reloads
(3)While EXTREMELY rare revolver malfunctions do exist but are typically CATASTROPHIC
(4)Less rugged than an automatic
(5)More difficult to accurately place shots
(6)Heavy trigger
(7)Cylinder blast
(8)Pain of disassembly
(9)Heavy recoil
(10)Cost of ammunition
(11)Lack of ammunition at the store
(12)Lack of aftermarket customization
(13)No factory rear sights