Simon, you missed off the keg credit return for the PD thus making the keg price cheaper and also you missed the out that the PD kegs can be changed out e.g. few pints of Franziskaner, remove, put a lager in and off you go, then put Franziskaner back in within the 30 days where the Blade 8l once its in the machine cannot be changed out. Great content though mate 👌
when i saw your blade review last year i got a blade ,its a great machine and its way better than drinking cans or bottles ,loading up and getting the light on at weekend makes for a better drinking experience ,boom time
Continental Europe have been using home draught machines for years intact the PD was released 2003 alongside the 4 litre Heineken beertender not in the UK mind but at least we have finally arrived
Great video, but one thing to add is that BeerHawk (Philips kegs) do a £5er back when they collect the old kegs, so it works out as very similar in price if you recycle!
Hi Simon You forgot to mention the keg return system on the PD and also the F/B codes that bring the price of the kegs down even more (you don’t seem to embrace it even mention this). My last order for PD I managed to get 3 kegs (31.5 pints) for £40.01 which is £1.27 per pint for draught beer and there is nothing that cheap on the blade !! Also is the blade really £200 better than the PD ?? Personally I don’t think so yes the cooling in the blade is better but so it should be it’s a commercial machine after all where time can cost money (especially in the hospitality industry). The PD has always been designed as a home beer dispenser hence the cheaper price and less efficient cooling system. For me I can’t justify £420 for a machine that has a limited selection of beer most of which are mass produced UK beers anyway. At least with the PD I’m getting continental top quality beers and with the keg return system cheaper then the blade. Until Heineken start releasing continental brewed beers on the blade (which probably won’t happen due to its commercial ties) and has a selection up there with the PD I’m happy to stick with my 2xPD machines and a Sub for my continental Heineken offerings. Joff 👍👍🍺🍺
I think this was a great review by Simon - I think all of your point is valid apart from the FB Codes - you can't add discount codes into it as they're not a permanent thing. £5 beer tokens yes but not FB Codes in my opinion. I have a Blade and a PD and love both of them. If I were to pick one it would probably have to be thye Blade but it is very close and going by Simon's humming and hawing before he picked one I think he thought the same. Both great machines.
Joff hall can you please tell how come you got so much discount on your kegs...if you buy 3 of the cheapest kegs like the stella and you get 15% off with codes and let's say £5 x3 for returned kegs, you are roughly looking at just under £30 pound off in total so works out about £60 for 3 stella.
@@maxsaunders5449 I've never had a flat Keg on either to be honest (couple of lively ones from both but not flat). As Simon pointed out the quality of the machine just feels so much better. Had amazing Beers from both so I'm more than happy with both to be honest :)
@@stevesmith2142 the PDGK group has a long serving (meant to be permanent) discount code for all members at 15% on 3 kegs, all you need to do is join the group to have access to it.
Hi Simon. Like a couple of comments below. You forgot the £5 per keg return on the Phillips system. Which overall makes the cost per pint cheaper on the Perfect Draft. Cracking video though. I watched this in bed at 9am this morning, and you got me thinking of pouring my own Franziskaner from my Perfect Draft too! Opted for black coffee instead. Bit early. 👍🏼
Great video Simon. If you buy a multiple of 3 kegs from Beerhawk for the PD and use the 15% discount code for being a member of the "Perfect Draft Kegs and Tips" Facebook group then I think once you factor in the £5 keg return and the Beerhawk beer tokens I reckon the PD is just as cheap if not cheaper than the Blade per pint.
Got the Klarnstien Beerkules for Christmas as I couldn't get the machines reviewed. I love it,simple to change kegs,great choice of kegs and pours a great pint
Great informative video as always Simon, the only thing I would say that you didn't mention was relating to the cost of the kegs, similar price for sure but the £5 return on the PD makes it probably very similar if not cheaper than the Blade. Great content as always
Good review. You for got to mention £5 deposit on PD kegs though which brings the cost down. I already have the PD but also added a blade which I purchased today.
I’ve got all 2 machines and blade wins by miles , the other 2 machines are cheap and plastic, they lack the quality also they only use cheap coolers, Blade has a proper refrigeration unit init
I have a Philips Perfect Draft. I personally think it's a gimmick. None of the pints I have pulled have had good head retention. I get the same head retention with a bottle/tin of beer. The reason I bought one in the first place was for better head retention over a bottle or tin of beer. I've worked as a bar man in the past so I know the importance of clean glasses etc. And I certainly know how to pull a pint. I'd save your money.
Are you using a widget glass I had a few pints of corona with the beer hawk glasses it tasted flat then changed to my moretti glasses that have lazer engraved pattern at bottom was a total different pint nucleated widget glasses
Enjoy your videos but this was very misleading, most importantly you get £5 back for keg returns on the philips which you don't on the blade, you also can get a 15% keg discount on kegs and beer token money when you buy kegs from beer hawk, additionally it sounded like you have to pre chill your kegs on the Philips when you don't, you'll just have to wait a while. I've researched both machines and the blade actually takes over 24 hours from room temperature as stated on their own website. The perfectdraft takes around 11 hours. If you pre chill them both in a specific beer fridge the philips can be used immediately but the blade still recommends waiting 3-4 hours.
@@freddiejones4598 that's absolute nonsense, there is no way it chills it that quick, even a kitchen grade freezer wouldn't chill something the blades keg size from room temperature to 2 degrees in that time. 😂
I bought the PD for the variety of beers but if the blade had had the same amount of kegs available at the time I'd of gone for that I think. However I'm very happy with the PD, it's a good system.
Lots of the craft breweries use the 5 Litre tins, especially since lock down. The supermarkets use the same style tin. Whilst the Blade and Phillips are good it is time someone brought out something we can use on the local craft brewery 5 Litre cans/barrels.
Thanks for your video. Great in helping me try to decide which to buy. I wonder if you know - with the 5l drought kegs that I can buy on beerwulf (paulaner weiss - my second favourite beer after weinstephaner) - these kegs are the ones with no appliance required that have a little tap on them to pour directly - but what I wondered was would these 5l draught kegs fit in any of these machines? Or is it strictly the purpose built kegs? Thanks again!
You also reviewed both machines a few months prior and mentioned that 8Ls is to much, almost as if you were raging the PD was better now you have made favourable points for the blade to make sure it won 🤣🤣
I was searching for comments on taste, which I am sure is as important as cost, looks etc. Which one pours the best draft if you had choose 1 (once both systems have cooled to their optimum temp)?
stick with the PD, excellent machine, greater choice, great deals on kegs, return credit on kegs and with a much superior customer service from Beer Hawk compared to Beerwulf.
Difference between BeerHawk and BeerWulf is massive at the minute but I think BeerWulf is going through a transitional phase just now with all the Blade Shop stuff now moving over to them. Hopefully things improve shortly for BeerWulf and we're all sipping beer when we want in future :)
A note on reuse/recycling would be very useful - l see the PerfectDraft has a 5£/€ deposit & return system which means the waste is minimal - what about the Blade?
Might be a silly question, if you had two kegs for blade, could you remove one half way through and put the other in? And then put the old one back in, if you had people round who wanted different drinks?
I don't think the cooling system matters. I have both machines and I keep the kegs in the fridge prior to installing. For me the PD offers a far superior choice of beer
Just got my Blade today. The temperature gauge goes down all the way to the bottom then slowly goes up to the next dash, the fan then starts until it chills completely again... It keeps doing that, is that normal?? Thanks man :)
@@realaleguide Thanks so much for the reply! The machine is amazing man! I absolutely loved my sub but it died on me a couple months ago so upgraded to this! Best decision ever haha! 🙌🙌🍺🍻
I need you to explain the reason I’ve just watched 2 reviews you have endorsed both machines one in each so are you pandering to the makers or had a change of mind? I can understand both arguments but you have to come off the fence and back one or are you another slave to the £ ? By the way I like your beer reviews. 🍺😃
I'd agree with Simon, the blade pips it for me not having to return kegs, yes its easy enough to do but its a ball ache. Then tie in the quality of the machine and it's my favourite. I wouldn't be without the pd though, equal love to both machines 🍺
Well put together, however you didn't mention the £5 deposit back on the Perfect Draft system when discussing price/pint. Also, is it possible to recycle the blade kegs. Thanks
You forgot to mention about the beer tokens for returns at a £5 a go which brings it down plus your tokens when purchasing. Apart from that another cracking vid our kid all the best for 2021
Superb video! Was swithering between the 2 but kinda had my mind made up on the Blade. This confirmed it for me! Very helpful and entertaining insight. Thank you!
Great video :-) One is missing: the Krups Beertender still available on the French Beerwulf site. Works with the 5 liter draught kegs and a reusable tube. I do not think they have sold the Beertender in the UK but you can find them for almost free in the Netherlands. The original Beertenders worked with 4 liter kegs but you can also use the 5 liter draughtkegs. Most advanced is the Krups Beertender B95, with choice of 3, 6 or 9 degrees celcius and real easy loading of your keg. It has the same tap handle and feeling like the Sub Compact.
Sub all day long for me cant beat filling your fridge with a variety of torps. And some subs like the Riviera edition cost more than either these machines.
I’ve been wondering what to get, and Blade seems best option but I might have to get the PD due to the choice. Anyone help me decide? Blade sold out in 6mins today, wonder how many they had for sale!!
I love trying new ales and things but I think these things will die a death once lockdown ends. It’s a nice novelty, and I’m sure it’s great fun, but the selection - specifically with the more ‘premium’ Blade - just seems really poor to me, so I’d feel like I was compromising on choice and still paying £2.50 a pint. Why anyone would want to use these machines for Heineken 0% is also beyond me - it seems like buying a tractor to tow a soiled nappy. It only costs about another 50p-£1 a pint at my local pub, and I’ve got that social aspect and the variety (guest ales etc). Not criticising this for those who have plenty of disposable income and enjoy the novelty factor, but for me these are just not very good value, and I’d rather stick to choosing different craft cans at Morrison’s. Interesting video though.
![DDG & G Herbo - Nosey [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/I9Ra0Zc2NlQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Thank you!!! This is the video I’ve been waiting for someone to do 👍
Simon, you missed off the keg credit return for the PD thus making the keg price cheaper and also you missed the out that the PD kegs can be changed out e.g. few pints of Franziskaner, remove, put a lager in and off you go, then put Franziskaner back in within the 30 days where the Blade 8l once its in the machine cannot be changed out.
Great content though mate 👌
when i saw your blade review last year i got a blade ,its a great machine and its way better than drinking cans or bottles ,loading up and getting the light on at weekend makes for a better drinking experience ,boom time
I have gone for the Blade it works out at about £2.50p a pint rather than £3.50p a pint on average for the Phillips
Shame there aren’t as many kegs for the blade.
@@ricksanchez8469 Its getting there, Beerwulf seems to have the best selection.
Home beer machines are the future, imo. Simon is ahead of the curve.
Continental Europe have been using home draught machines for years intact the PD was released 2003 alongside the 4 litre Heineken beertender not in the UK mind but at least we have finally arrived
@@MARKKY2727 Yeah, I'm very surprised that the American market is still largely untapped. (pun intended)
@@joebidensdentures4541 the sub and blade were both released in USA but have since been removed from the market hopsý used to sell them
You forgot to mention you also get a £5 deposit discount on the keg for the perfect draft when you return your keg. Perfect draft all day long!!
Great video, but one thing to add is that BeerHawk (Philips kegs) do a £5er back when they collect the old kegs, so it works out as very similar in price if you recycle!
Hi Simon
You forgot to mention the keg return system on the PD and also the F/B codes that bring the price of the kegs down even more (you don’t seem to embrace it even mention this). My last order for PD I managed to get 3 kegs (31.5 pints) for £40.01 which is £1.27 per pint for draught beer and there is nothing that cheap on the blade !!
Also is the blade really £200 better than the PD ??
Personally I don’t think so yes the cooling in the blade is better but so it should be it’s a commercial machine after all where time can cost money (especially in the hospitality industry). The PD has always been designed as a home beer dispenser hence the cheaper price and less efficient cooling system.
For me I can’t justify £420 for a machine that has a limited selection of beer most of which are mass produced UK beers anyway. At least with the PD I’m getting continental top quality beers and with the keg return system cheaper then the blade.
Until Heineken start releasing continental brewed beers on the blade (which probably won’t happen due to its commercial ties) and has a selection up there with the PD I’m happy to stick with my 2xPD machines and a Sub for my continental Heineken offerings.
Joff 👍👍🍺🍺
I think this was a great review by Simon - I think all of your point is valid apart from the FB Codes - you can't add discount codes into it as they're not a permanent thing.
£5 beer tokens yes but not FB Codes in my opinion. I have a Blade and a PD and love both of them.
If I were to pick one it would probably have to be thye Blade but it is very close and going by Simon's humming and hawing before he picked one I think he thought the same.
Both great machines.
Joff hall can you please tell how come you got so much discount on your kegs...if you buy 3 of the cheapest kegs like the stella and you get 15% off with codes and let's say £5 x3 for returned kegs, you are roughly looking at just under £30 pound off in total so works out about £60 for 3 stella.
@@stevesmith2142 is the quality of beer better on the blade such as carbonation? Sometimes I do get a flat keg on the PD
@@maxsaunders5449 I've never had a flat Keg on either to be honest (couple of lively ones from both but not flat).
As Simon pointed out the quality of the machine just feels so much better.
Had amazing Beers from both so I'm more than happy with both to be honest :)
@@stevesmith2142 the PDGK group has a long serving (meant to be permanent) discount code for all members at 15% on 3 kegs, all you need to do is join the group to have access to it.
Great video. Small tip, you should try and look into the camera lens, rather than yourself! It's like you're talking over my shoulder!
Hi Simon. Like a couple of comments below. You forgot the £5 per keg return on the Phillips system. Which overall makes the cost per pint cheaper on the Perfect Draft. Cracking video though. I watched this in bed at 9am this morning, and you got me thinking of pouring my own Franziskaner from my Perfect Draft too! Opted for black coffee instead. Bit early. 👍🏼
Great video Simon. If you buy a multiple of 3 kegs from Beerhawk for the PD and use the 15% discount code for being a member of the "Perfect Draft Kegs and Tips" Facebook group then I think once you factor in the £5 keg return and the Beerhawk beer tokens I reckon the PD is just as cheap if not cheaper than the Blade per pint.
Another great video! Are we ever going to see the Brewfitt in action once more?
Got the Klarnstien Beerkules for Christmas as I couldn't get the machines reviewed. I love it,simple to change kegs,great choice of kegs and pours a great pint
Available in the UK?
@@chriscross5689 yeah mate,get it from Klarnstien website for £300 and takes any 5ltr keg
@@SadClown23 thank you, I'll look in to that. So far the PD is the forerunner.
Great informative video as always Simon, the only thing I would say that you didn't mention was relating to the cost of the kegs, similar price for sure but the £5 return on the PD makes it probably very similar if not cheaper than the Blade. Great content as always
Good review. You for got to mention £5 deposit on PD kegs though which brings the cost down. I already have the PD but also added a blade which I purchased today.
I’ve got all 2 machines and blade wins by miles , the other 2 machines are cheap and plastic, they lack the quality also they only use cheap coolers,
Blade has a proper refrigeration unit init
I have the sub machine but if I were to buy another machine I think the PD pips the blade due to the choice of beers available
I have a Philips Perfect Draft. I personally think it's a gimmick. None of the pints I have pulled have had good head retention. I get the same head retention with a bottle/tin of beer. The reason I bought one in the first place was for better head retention over a bottle or tin of beer. I've worked as a bar man in the past so I know the importance of clean glasses etc. And I certainly know how to pull a pint. I'd save your money.
Are you using a widget glass I had a few pints of corona with the beer hawk glasses it tasted flat then changed to my moretti glasses that have lazer engraved pattern at bottom was a total different pint nucleated widget glasses
Both great machines 👍🏻
Great comparison! Only
Problem right now is you can’t get either machine anywhere in the UK! 😱
I got a Blade, but wanted a Perfect Draft! Oh well.... ;-)
Biggest advantage of the blade is it cools down in about half an from room temp. That alone is worth the extra cost
Enjoy your videos but this was very misleading, most importantly you get £5 back for keg returns on the philips which you don't on the blade, you also can get a 15% keg discount on kegs and beer token money when you buy kegs from beer hawk, additionally it sounded like you have to pre chill your kegs on the Philips when you don't, you'll just have to wait a while. I've researched both machines and the blade actually takes over 24 hours from room temperature as stated on their own website. The perfectdraft takes around 11 hours. If you pre chill them both in a specific beer fridge the philips can be used immediately but the blade still recommends waiting 3-4 hours.
This person is talking a lot of sense
I have a blade and from room temperature to 2 degrees it’s 30-40 minutes. It’s far superior
@@freddiejones4598 that's absolute nonsense, there is no way it chills it that quick, even a kitchen grade freezer wouldn't chill something the blades keg size from room temperature to 2 degrees in that time. 😂
@@ThatEssentialAttire I’ve got one and watch all the reviews. Some people have it down 2 degrees in 15 minutes. That’s what your paying the extra for
@@ThatEssentialAttire he’s right mine takes roughly half an hour for a non pre chilled keg. Longest I’ve seen is about 45 mins
I bought the PD for the variety of beers but if the blade had had the same amount of kegs available at the time I'd of gone for that I think.
However I'm very happy with the PD, it's a good system.
Lots of the craft breweries use the 5 Litre tins, especially since lock down. The supermarkets use the same style tin. Whilst the Blade and Phillips are good it is time someone brought out something we can use on the local craft brewery 5 Litre cans/barrels.
Great clip Simon, keep up the good work and don't forget your commission !
Thanks for your video. Great in helping me try to decide which to buy. I wonder if you know - with the 5l drought kegs that I can buy on beerwulf (paulaner weiss - my second favourite beer after weinstephaner) - these kegs are the ones with no appliance required that have a little tap on them to pour directly - but what I wondered was would these 5l draught kegs fit in any of these machines? Or is it strictly the purpose built kegs?
Thanks again!
You also reviewed both machines a few months prior and mentioned that 8Ls is to much, almost as if you were raging the PD was better now you have made favourable points for the blade to make sure it won 🤣🤣
Great video Simon purchased a blade based on your reviews quality stuff 👍
The blade lights up!
Good review , both out of stock everywhere mate 😯 got ppl robbing you on EBay selling for 450 and 600ish
How are these machines compared to the WilliamsWarn homebrew system???
Be great if i had a blade keg, ordered from beershark 14th December
Did you get the blade, I have ordered from beershark three days ago and had my order confirmed. Plus they have my cash. Got me worried now?
Thanks for thos video. Just ordered the blade while amazon prime offer! Greetz from germany!
Great review the only questions I have is what pulls the better pint and is there a difference in one keg being plastic and one being metal?
Whats better the pd or the blade
I was searching for comments on taste, which I am sure is as important as cost, looks etc. Which one pours the best draft if you had choose 1 (once both systems have cooled to their optimum temp)?
Just wish we could get them in Ireland 😭
stick with the PD, excellent machine, greater choice, great deals on kegs, return credit on kegs and with a much superior customer service from Beer Hawk compared to Beerwulf.
Difference between BeerHawk and BeerWulf is massive at the minute but I think BeerWulf is going through a transitional phase just now with all the Blade Shop stuff now moving over to them. Hopefully things improve shortly for BeerWulf and we're all sipping beer when we want in future :)
@@stevesmith2142 me too 😃
A note on reuse/recycling would be very useful - l see the PerfectDraft has a 5£/€ deposit & return system which means the waste is minimal - what about the Blade?
Once you have supped 200 blade kegs you will be in profit over the price difference ... what an incentive !!
love loading the Blade
blade as cider,job done,i love my blade
How long can you keep your blade kegs befor you need to drink it . Thank-you ken
Do u get money back on the blade. When u return the keg. Phillips u get £5 a keg
@@matthewpierce8819
But u get 5 pound back so they are cheaper than the blade
Might be a silly question, if you had two kegs for blade, could you remove one half way through and put the other in? And then put the old one back in, if you had people round who wanted different drinks?
No once blade keg in it stays in until empty but the PD you can swap out
Hi where do you get the blade and the 2 kegs for £420 ? cheers
I don't think the cooling system matters. I have both machines and I keep the kegs in the fridge prior to installing. For me the PD offers a far superior choice of beer
Just got my Blade today. The temperature gauge goes down all the way to the bottom then slowly goes up to the next dash, the fan then starts until it chills completely again... It keeps doing that, is that normal?? Thanks man :)
yes this is normal.
@@realaleguide Thanks so much for the reply! The machine is amazing man! I absolutely loved my sub but it died on me a couple months ago so upgraded to this! Best decision ever haha! 🙌🙌🍺🍻
The blade is quite loud..both pour a lovely pint tho
Outstanding video very informative bud,
Just waiting for Lagunitas IPA on the blade, then happy days🍺🍺👍🏻
Great video, very helpful
you had me at 8litre keg
OMG
I need you to explain the reason I’ve just watched 2 reviews you have endorsed both machines one in each so are you pandering to the makers or had a change of mind? I can understand both arguments but you have to come off the fence and back one or are you another slave to the £ ? By the way I like your beer reviews. 🍺😃
Poor price comparison as to the returning of kegs with perfect draft...
'Slow moving carbonation'?? Nah, thats a flat pint mate from the Blade. I'd be sending that back in a pub!
Blade all day
I'd agree with Simon, the blade pips it for me not having to return kegs, yes its easy enough to do but its a ball ache. Then tie in the quality of the machine and it's my favourite. I wouldn't be without the pd though, equal love to both machines 🍺
Well put together, however you didn't mention the £5 deposit back on the Perfect Draft system when discussing price/pint. Also, is it possible to recycle the blade kegs. Thanks
You forgot to mention about the beer tokens for returns at a £5 a go which brings it down plus your tokens when purchasing. Apart from that another cracking vid our kid all the best for 2021
If you pull the tap down on the PD it's easier to feed the tube through. Top video, like it.
Great video mate.
Superb video! Was swithering between the 2 but kinda had my mind made up on the Blade. This confirmed it for me! Very helpful and entertaining insight. Thank you!
Great video :-) One is missing: the Krups Beertender still available on the French Beerwulf site. Works with the 5 liter draught kegs and a reusable tube. I do not think they have sold the Beertender in the UK but you can find them for almost free in the Netherlands. The original Beertenders worked with 4 liter kegs but you can also use the 5 liter draughtkegs. Most advanced is the Krups Beertender B95, with choice of 3, 6 or 9 degrees celcius and real easy loading of your keg. It has the same tap handle and feeling like the Sub Compact.
My man Simon like a mad scientist. 🍻
Sub all day long for me cant beat filling your fridge with a variety of torps.
And some subs like the Riviera edition cost more than either these machines.
Lucky man to have your hands on a keg of Frankie Royal! Although the new Dunkel version is lovely too.
I’ve been wondering what to get, and Blade seems best option but I might have to get the PD due to the choice. Anyone help me decide? Blade sold out in 6mins today, wonder how many they had for sale!!
Sure you have already done this before?
Perfect Draft Vs Krups before,
great video unbiased review thanks
Youre Brilliant!
I love trying new ales and things but I think these things will die a death once lockdown ends. It’s a nice novelty, and I’m sure it’s great fun, but the selection - specifically with the more ‘premium’ Blade - just seems really poor to me, so I’d feel like I was compromising on choice and still paying £2.50 a pint. Why anyone would want to use these machines for Heineken 0% is also beyond me - it seems like buying a tractor to tow a soiled nappy.
It only costs about another 50p-£1 a pint at my local pub, and I’ve got that social aspect and the variety (guest ales etc).
Not criticising this for those who have plenty of disposable income and enjoy the novelty factor, but for me these are just not very good value, and I’d rather stick to choosing different craft cans at Morrison’s.
Interesting video though.
Can the Phillips machine pour desperados?
No. Corona is on it though.
Smashing head to head review simon, well done