The Cosmere 101 | Who Is Hoid?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- So we’ve already taken a look at the basics of what the cosmere is and all the different Shards and planets within the cosmere. But today I think it’s time we looked at something a lot more interesting. Today we’ll be looking at something that actually gives first-time cosmere readers an indication that there’s more to this universe than meets the eye...
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The fact that Odium was nervous about Hoid being in Roshar kinda gives me the vibe that Hoid knows the weaknesses of all the Shards of Adonalsium and how to oppose them effectively, foiling them quietly behind the heroes in each story.
The biggest question I have is... how does he know when exactly to interfere with critical world events? His timing in some of the books is uncanny 🤔🤔
Hoid can manipulate Fortune, which is a tangible force that can be manipulated in the Cosmere. He always knows where he is needed. He doesn't always know what he needs to do there, but he knows where to go, and when to be there.
@@curryinahurry3730 So Hoid's real name is Dirk Gently? ;)
Also, it's canon that Hoid always knows if he has to be somewhere, and then he goes there.
Hoid is like Stan Lee in MCU, you just see him in every movie.
Loooool so true!
I’m pretty convinced the Cosmere is just the story of Hoid.
@@lordcypher5889 he did say "I began life as a thought, a concept, words on a page."
Literally just finished Oathbringer.
I've read the mistborn series and warbreaker so far, besides the first 3 stormlight books.
Maaaaaaaaaan I am in love with hoid/wit, especially after the epilogue of oathbringer.
Spoilers!
Hoid casually using his "breath" to awaken a puppet, lure a child out of the rubble next to the corpse of her mother, while delivering her to a mother who lost her child, casually bond a cryptic and speak the first ideal of the radiants.
His guidance of shallan and kaladin over the series, his subtle appearances in mistborn (his first appearance while talking to kelsier was amazing, now knowing who he actually is, and that kelsier was the one getting misleaded.
Amazing, amazing, amazing character work from Sanderson, 100%
Lol yeah Hoid is next level
Wondering if a quick summary of each time Hoid makes a cameo would be interested. Outside of all of the Wit appearances, of course. While potentially include the Stormlight epilogues that Hoid is present in, and their deeper meaning?
Could be an interesting video. I'd have to look into it :)
@@RavensRants I would second this; I'd love a spoiler video that goes into all of this specifically about how we know these things. A lot of this has gone over my head in my re reads, and I've read them all a lot. For example, I don't remember Hoid ever eating larasium?
@@Diloneus we can *infer* he’s eaten it because he stole a bead during the Secret Histories Mistborn novella.
Also there’s a possibility that he used the lerasium in an unconventional way since WoB states that it can do other things aside from just making someone a Mistborn.
Dont forget hoid appears in elantris too
@@lorenzohc4l178I just listened to the graphic audio of elantris this week! They pronounced it "hoe-eyed" and I kept chuckling
He beat the crap out of Kelsier in the well of ascension 😂 cracked me up
That was funny
At this point I'm reading the Cosmere for Hoid cameos and getting awesome storytelling and other characters as a byproduct
I really want to see Hoid as the main character of the cosmere, and I want the conclusion of the cosmere to be Hoid uniting all the shards again
I'm not even convinced he's a good guy. I think he's prepared to sacrifice whatever and whomever to succeed in his agenda which I'm guessing is bringing someone he cared for back from the dead, or maybe he wants to restore Adonalsium. I think he's completely self serving. But I'm obviously just speculating and could be entirely wrong about everything I said.
@@softan I agree, I think Sanderson wants us to just take for granted that he’s a good guy because he’s usually there to help/ guide protagonist. But he can’t knowingly hurt people, so helpfulness might be his weapon in manipulating others to do what he wants.
Brandon is writing so much he's written a whole other story underneath all of the other stories, *using* those other stories as a canvas. Man's writing books inside his books. What
Bookception!
Hoid is on no one’s side but the side that helps further his cause on a larger Cosmere scale
hah..ever since wit started stepping into the limelight in roshar, i have been going back through everything trying to scrounge up all his cameos! it's like going through Finding Wally/Waldo LMAO
Me as an aspiring writer: writes lore and background information for a few months. Sanderson: writes several trilogies and standalone books as the foundation
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I have now started liking your Cosmere videos before they even start. Keep it up bro💪📖⛈
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Such a good video! Thanks! I love the art 🖼 with the explanation it makes it so much easier to digest
One aspect of what he does is act as a smokescreen. For whatever reason, he's chock full of Fortune, so whenever he interacts with a world, he interferes with the futurevision of Shards in the same way as Atium, basically breaking the fate Shards have in mind just by being there and acting strangely.
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This is a great video! I’m a Cosmere junkie & Hoid is definitely one of my absolute favorites! He’s definitely the most interesting in my opinion. I’d love to hear what you think of Vasher & why he’s on Roshar!!! (Subscribed 🖤)
I'm glad you enjoyed 🙂
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Thank you so much for the kind words! :)
We actually don't know if it's possible for a human to use multiple different shards magics, Hoid is most likely a higher level being or if he used to be human is something completely different now so the multiple different powers might be unique to him
Is Hoid a higher level being? I mean other than all the power he's taken
@@RavensRants I think if he isn't specifically a God or demi God, he is at the very least not human anymore or would follow the traditional rules which may apply to them.
@@dontask3613 fair point
@@dontask3613 prob something in realmatic theory that could explain other peoples idea of him changes him over a long time
I think he has access to Feruchemy - it’s how he stored his memories when he met with with Tarovangian/Odium when Odium took his breaths/memory away in the epilogue of RoW.
Im no expert but didnt he store it in breathes from warbreaker not copperminds or whatever it is like sazed mistborn?
He stored his memories in the Breaths, not in metalminds. Hoid has had no prior indication of access to Feruchemy. And (BANDS OF MOURNING SPOILERS) unkeyed metalminds are only being developed in Era 2 of Mistborn, which canonically takes place in the timespan between books 5 and 6 of Stormlight.
So as of right now, the odds of him using metalminds seem highly unlikely. TaravOdium definitely did something to the Breaths holding Hoid's memories.
@@RavensRants Brando just RAFOed that question in his recent Cosmere Spoiler Stream so that’s still up for debate. If it wasn’t he has no problems saying “no” to clarify. That means he’s still noodling with it or he has to check with his continuity editor, to your point above on the timeline.
It's difficult to speak to what motivates Hoid - Once the full story behind Hoid's role in the shattering and his relationship with Adonalisum is revealed it'll be easy to speculate. It's safe to say he ensures various story-threads move along a certain path per his own oath.
another great video!!!
My head canon is that he's working on rejoining adonolsium (sp?) because he is what was left over after the adonolsium shattered, and why he said no to one shard when he needs them all to be complete again (though, what that means with the dead shards, and everything else i dunno). admittedly, i'm most assuredly wrong, but it's the head canon i have at the moment :) Oh god, the eternal coatrack.
He was, probably, the one who shattered Adonalsium or he may be Adonalsium itself.
Hmmm I'm pretty sure it's confirmed he's not
adonalsium was shattered by a team of people, and 16 of those picked up a shard
Thanks for the videos. With this one is would have been nice to also be told where and when we find out these tid bits of information.
I've read every book and didn't know half of this 😂😂
Showed this to someone since it was supposed to be spoiler free, yet you mention that Hoid MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FLY LIKE KALADIN at 4:27 :( They had just started reading Stormlight...
So happy to see another Saffer as obsessed about the Cosmere as I am.
Lol 😂 Awe
Once again you have out done yourself. My man!
I always aim to please :)
I just don't understand how he, as a heavily invested individual can freely worldhop as kelsier apparently cannot worldhop and neither could highly invested radiants nor could the heralds. I believe he in some way is related to adolnalsium(or however you spell it) as he can freely use investiture from other systems across the galaxy.
Might be related to him being a ex Dawnshard
I think Kelsier is locked in his place because he is a cognitive shadow. I can't remember how Vasher described what he is in Stormlight, but it seemed like he is more than mortal. I got the feeling mortal locks you in one world/system, being a cognitive shadow locks you in one world/system, and you need something more to world hop. Nothing I can really point tom but that was the sense I got. Odium was locked to the Rosharan system as well, but I think that had more to do with the Oath Pact.
Glad to hear another saffa digging cosmere!!
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My theory is that Hoid want to gain part of each shards power to be able to reconnect them and possibly control.
Hoid doesn't strike me as someone hungry for power
I think a better question would be, what is Hoid? Or rather, what has Hoid become.
I am curious if he can use investiture interchangeably. Can he breathe in stormlight and use it to fuel his allomancy.
Oh Raven, you see, I can't stay away. Stormlight seems to be fashionable right now - but I like it here (:
Anyway, it surprised me you didn't mention Hoid/Wit's oath here. To me it's unclear who he gave it to, or when, but he has always kept it. Seen from that vow, he becomes a bit less nebulous, cause all his actions stem from this. (Once you know it, comes up in Oathbringer, after Veil gets the people she thought she's helping, in trouble - >" I will always be there, when I'm needed. It's just hard to figure out where I'm supposed to be, cause "there" is basically everywhere"
Lol good point. Though we have very little information on why Hoid does what he does. I think we'll only find out once Dragonsteel is released
@@RavensRants How many ages will that be, does anybody have a prognosis?
@@FirCorred Lol only Brandon Sanderson knows
I mean, we also have hoid saying something like "I will watch it all burn down, simply to achieve my goals"
He might not be capable of hurting anyone himself due to him having been the dawnshard.
But golly, if this isn't him admitting to standing by while watching people suffer because it might suit his plan.
The paralells he has with taravangian in this sense are pretty good.
They're well hidden, but they're surely there.
Hoid is awesome, witty and friendly.
He's also ancient and possibly immortal, making him ruthless as all heck!
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hoid also can manipulate sand from the white sand series (he aprears once in this book his name is not mentioned buy brandon confirmed its him) you cans see him using his sand powers in kolinar when hes talking to shalon while he is preforming on a street
I believe his meeting with Taravangean at the end of the last book that he does have farechemy. He mentioned his ability to store his memories due to his exhaustive life span.
I just finished Warbreaker recently, so I checked the end of Rythm of War again. It specifically says that his memories were stored in his Breaths, not a metalmind! Nothing even remotely akin to that was done in Warbreaker.
I keep forgetting I'm not caught up in the Cosmere. Waiting for Dawnshard to release in audiobook. I let this play in the background and started getting lore I want ready for. My bad though. I hope I stumble upon this video after I listen to Dawnshard though
Oof sorry about that.
I don't think we ever saw Hoid eat the bead he stole. So I wouldn't put it past Brandon to have him use it as something else...
I also don't think Hoid ever used mistborn abilities on screen...
Hoid used emotional Allomancy at least once in WoR.
@@RavensRants but we never see him swallow it. It's possible he spiked himself with the metal from the bead or snapped and gained mistborn abilities.
Point is we never saw him swallow the bead and that causes me to doubt he swallowed it.
@@PoPo-ku9oc I hear yah, but it's also been confirmed by Sanderson that he is indeed a Mistborn now (which is why he included the scene of Hoid swallowing metal powder in WoR, to make it more clear to readers)
What is the braste i didnt get it
How do we know that Hoid actually swallowed the bead of Lerasium? Yes we saw him pick it up during his encounter with Kel in Secret History but we don't see him consume it. I haven't read Dawnshard yet or Rhythm of War yet so idk if it becomes evident there. But I thought the current theory floating around was that he just has the bead and possibly haven't used it yet.
I hadn't seen the comment thread already stating this. I didn't know sanderson let it be know he was a full mistborn
@@epilef90 Yep he did. The scene in WoR was a clue to it, but Sanderson confirmed it when asked
@@RavensRants Which scene? Is it the one right at the end?
@@RavensRants So it just so happened that I'm reading Way of Kings right now and I got to the chapter after the Chasam Fiend Hunt. In the next chapter's pre script that is part of that letter Hoid is writing to someone (I can't remember who) Hoid says "Let me first assure you that the Element is quite safe. I have found a good home for it. I protect it's safety like I protect my own skin, you might say."
If the element Hoid is discussing is Lerasium then the phrase "I protect its safety like I protect my own skin, you might say." Confirms that the consumed it I think.
Can we confirm that he is discussing Lerasium in this excerpt or is he discussing another element?
@@Walpurgis117 One of Shallan's flashback scenes. We see him pour powdered metal in his drink and then push on Shallan's emotions later in the same chapter. There may be more hints but this is the big one I remember
Hoid would be a really interest antagonist. Not a villain, just antagonist.
Just a total guess on my part, but I suspect Hoid's goal has something to do with reforming Adonalsium
Wonder how being stuck on Roshar and not being able to world hop will effect his plans...
I never got the impression he's stuck there?
@@RavensRants Doesnt a spren bond keeps the radiant from leaving Roshar, or make it really difficult?
@@Graveboat It may do, but we don't really have any confirmation of it. Remember that spren exist primarily in the Cognitive Realm and the Cognitive Realm isn't limited by distance or borders or anything like the physical. So it may not be an issue
I have a strong feeling what we think we know about his origin is probably stuff he put out there himself. I keep getting the idea he is the original God or has a connection to them.
cosmere seems interesting
I just read secret history, why did Hoid take the magical all alomancies ball and was chasing vin at the end.. What was he planning?!
Spoilers for the entire Cosmere as of but not including Sunlit Man:
So, after Tress, Hoid has officially become an Elantrian. And, given that he was able to use those powers too, it seems like he has access to investiture to draw upon somewhat at will. And with the existence of magic hacking he probably doesn’t need to burn metals to access his mistborn powers either. Meaning, essentially, that Hoid is now at minimum an immortal, instantly healing man who can bring inanimate objects to life and command them, perceive life around him, control the emotions of those around him at will, enhance his body and all his senses, fly, control time to some extent, leech investiture, produce illusions, transform matter and literally anything else as long as he can think of the proper aons. My god.
I wonder if him and Jasnah can have a child and if the child inherits any of Hoid’s ability.
Well we know that some of his abilities could be inherited, but probably not all.
Also I highly doubt that he and Jasnah would ever have a child XD
@@RavensRants I doubt it too but it would be interesting.
I don't think Hoid really can mix powers, I think the powers are bound to the system and Hoid has the power to seem like he belongs in any system, I don't think surgebinding will work on other planets.
hoids hewing factor could be a clue that he is a feruchemist using gold to heal
4:46 it is never stated he actually swallowed the bead to get it's powers
Hoid is an Elantrian...
If Hoyd is going planet to planet, incapable of hurting people and collecting every power possible, wouldn't the most likely motive for him he that he is in a way, helping to reforge Adonalsium? Because every expression of investiture comes from a shard, so with a dash of the 16 powers, and a sprinkle of the 4 dawn shard commandments, would that not re creat the god they broke apart?
He seeks to rejoin the the shards to restore the one god in order to stop the universal power struggle.
That's a theory I've heard though I have my doubts
Spoiler free.
*Proceeds to say spoilers about misborn and elen*
First, I hate him, because he used SO many names and was a really third/extra charapter (Like Sten Lee's cameos in the UMC). When, in Stormlight, I just could not stop laughing because who bad jokes where (Remenbering me of Mointy Pitons). And now...I kust can wait to see how he sees the inevitable return of the god thta ones was destroy.
wasn’t he the beggar or something in Elantris?
He was somewhere in Elantris…
Someone help me please 😂
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The fact that we not know anything about hoid motive is not true be we do know that in order to give up of the shurd he make an outh to always be where he needed
He is going to erase and destroy all shards.
Bold of me to show up in this comment section.
thom merrilin
I'm confused. Are you saying Hoid is Thom Merrillin? 😂
@@RavensRants in my mine yes Thom merrilin is Hoid 110%
@@barryryan7777 Well that would be something considering Thom is from a completely different series and a completely different author 😂
@@RavensRants ya I know but is Hoid was in the book that who he would be
@@barryryan7777 I'm sorry, I don't see it more than superficially. Hoid lives by his weird - and seemingly senseless oath, Merrilin doesn't have moral rootes that go that deep.
he is not and was not a dawn shard he had one and gave it up
What if Hoid is Adonalsium
Make himself the perfect vessel to reforge Adonalsium, thusly bringing God back.
lekker SA repping BS
Awe!
Let's go Brandon....
Sanderson! Yeah!
Not spoiler free🫣
I don't trust this guy man I'm getting the feeling that he's an eventual villain
Hoid is G-Man
Hoid is WIlly Wonka... William H. Wonka. Hoid is his middle name... He even has a flute.
This is definitely not spoiler free.
Did Jasnah really like Hoid? I didn’t think she liked men.
They are a couple