"Tranq" The Dangerous New Street Drug Taking Over American Cities | Change Agents #51
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Today on Change Agents, Andy speaks with former Special Agent in Charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration, Los Angeles Field Division, Bill Bodner.
Bill had a 31-year career in the Drug Enforcement Administration, in which he was responsible for overseeing the daily operations of 14 offices located in Nevada, Hawaii, Guam, Saipan, and the counties which make up the greater Los Angeles area.
Bill discusses the evolution in American street drugs, the forces behind these new drugs, and how deadly substances like Xylazine - known as tranq - infiltrated the modern drug market.
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Thank you for having me on Andy!
As a cop from Philly the drug problem in Kensington is apocalyptic, no exaggeration. Amputees everywhere from necrosis.
Its almost unbelievable, and then you see it. Even w prior drug epidemics and the heroin wave of mid 2000's stuff like that wasn't seen in broad daylight. Thanks for the job you do, keep doing good 🇺🇲
Yeah that’s pretty much every where now.
That place is incredible...
Why isn't it shut down??
It's like 'they' allow it.
I love my neighborhood ❤
So the mayor cleans the streets with street cleaners @6am but won't help the metal ill & drug addicts and lock up the dealers...thats crazy❤❤❤❤
The thing that bothers me the most is the fact that there are people in this country that actually need pain medication. They don't misuse or abuse the medication but, due to the opiate epidemic, they can no longer get their needed pain meds.I think this pushes some to buy meds on the street to help cope with their pain. My wife has FMD and suffers with debilitating migraines. She use to get a script for low dose Norco (5mg), and this would last her upwards of six months. She would only use them after trying Excedrin migraine, Tylenol and or Motrin without relief. The last script she received was for 14 tablets but, the pharmacist refused to fill it. He told her, "You've heard there's an opiate epidemic,. Right? It's nuts. Once again. People that obey the law, follow the rules suffer because of those that don't.
I've said the exact things to my doctor...
It's ridiculous
So interesting perspective here, I developed chronic pain while in active addiction, supposedly some of the abuse made it worse but anyway. But I'm now in the same spot you are, so Id be slower to blame the addicts and quicker to blame insurance companies and liability. Also, I never started with a prescription I went straight to the streets because doctors wouldn't prescribe it. This last part is really important when you think about blaming the addicts for this...
"Heavy is the head that smokes the foil" Socrates 375 B.C.
The leaders of this country lack the balls to do anything about this.
They are more than happy to spend tax dollars to build up companies that profit from the rehab industrial complex
But stopping this misery will not happen until the whole God damned place is upended
😂 thanks @oceania2385 I needed that laugh 😂
Wow, IRONCLAD censors comments
Just thinking about chasing that drip used to make my mouth water and my hair felt like it was growing...Thank God I figured my shit out...Feeling Lucky...
@@dontbugme7362it’s prolly RUclips
thank you for putting out this valuable information.
Only 32000 views ? Should be on news specials, and public intercity viewing screens with subtitles.
I know for a fact that if I didn't get sober 8 years ago I would be dead like 90% of my old "friends"! when I made it home from Afghanistan I thaught the war was over but it had just begun. Now I'm on the front lines trying to help other vets who are addicts and the work never ends! Ty for getting this message out!
This is VERY scary... I watched how the opioid CRISIS epidemic unfold & sweep right through middle class neighborhoods & schools in the early 2000's.....there was so much death & destruction to families of all walks of life.
I hear you , I was one of the people a dr told that oxycontin isn't addictive.
Now it’s way worse. More people die now then they did back then. And it wasn’t just middle class then it was everyone like it is now just like it was in the 20s-80s with heroin.
@@marley1995 I completely understand, that's why I said *there was so much death & destruction to families of ALL walks of life* 😢
When I referred to the middle-class (neighborhoods & schools) I was thinking about how back then (before the internet boom) most of us were all naive about it, and we wouldn't have known where to go to get it, or that it was even an issue; UNTIL it started happening right in front of us, meanwhile it was there all along, just hiding in plain sight.
All the overdoses that were happening everywhere (even the places that we thought were safe & sacred spaces)
I was justvspeaking from personal experiences; seeing loved ones, friends, and classmates die....going to their funerals, one right after another.
I remember having to go to actual NARNON meetings (because the information wasn't as readily available back then) just to get information on how to help people and understand what was happening & how it was happening
I personally witnessed very traumatic scenes, like finding people who'd just overdosed, mother's crying out for their children (that is a sound you will never forget) fathers crying out to God and frantically trying to do CPR on their child, until the EMT's arrived.
I watched it rip families apart & create divisiveness...it was absolutely unconscionable.
That's why I can't even wrap my head around WHY they're even allowing this EVIL to happen, let alone encouraging it right now!??!?
THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE, IS THAT *THEY* WANT THIS DESTRUCTION, SO *THEY* CAN BUILD MORE PRIVATE PRISONS & MAKE MORE MONEY. 😈😢😈
Sorry mate but really? Maybe You wanted it at the time@@leemackay888
It comes in waves. In California heron hit after the Nam war and during the early 60s.
Our medical community refusing to treat pain increasingly every year since 2012 has contributed to more deaths when legitimate patients turn to the street
Facts
Yep! That’s absolutely uninformed and completely untrue. The opioid epidemic was due to medicine being forced to treat pain as the new vital sign. If you didn’t treat hypertension, that was malpractice. But that is an objective finding. The pain scale (brought to you by pharmaceutical companies) was then manipulated into medicine. This is completely subjective. People will tell you a high number and get narcotics because not treating pain (the new vital sign) becomes malpractice. Hell! There are stand ups about it and people laughed. Then when Prince overdosed, that was the straw that broke the preverbal back. Now, you have to have 8 hours of CME a year on opioid treatment. If you prescribe opioids and someone (even a family member or a friend) has an issue with that prescription, it’s malpractice and maybe even criminal. So! Yep Greg Farrell its just that simple. Kinda like your mentality… very very simple.
Exactly!!! It went from over prescribing them to WAY under prescribing them.. Which leeds the people who ACTUALLY need it to either suffer in pain or go find it on their own.. It's Just CRAZY.
Yep , a dea agent walked into my Doctors office and told him to stop writing scripts or lose his license. Many of us went to the methadone clinic.
When I was in nursing school, our pharmacology instructor told us , the World Health Organization was shooting for a pain free world by the year 2000. Look where we are.
I've been in Turkey for last 10 days and have yet to see a pharmacy.
In my hometown in middle Tennessee there's a pharmacy on almost every street corner.
It's been eye-opening for sure.
God bless you and yours and God bless America 🇺🇸
Bring back their apothecary will ya? 😊
At what point do you consider belligerent denial, gross incompetence and willful neglect a violent attack?
Correct. Planed international destruction of our country.
Rightnow
Never....Football is on, then Oprah, then Baseball, then The voice, then Nascar, and then more Football.
Screw football and nascar and all that garbage
People are so oblivious and they make it that way. It’s sad to see
Amazing podcast...Thank you. I hope more people share this for the public good.
Outstanding presentation. Thank you both
I work in opioid treatment. Never thought I'd say i miss people using heroin. You could treat that .
Those were the good ol days
I wish I could even find some h it’s a walk in the park to kick the habit compared to fetty 😢
So true!!
Sad to agree with such a statement but is so true
WE ARE DYING OF BEING LIED TOO BY THOSE IN POWER WHO ARE CORRUPTED. 😢
If our Government already knows this, then WHY on earth are they so insistent on keeping the southern BORDER OPEN?!?!?
Votes on one side , cheap labor on the other
New Voters are more important to governments than dead attics ever will be.
We the American people are worth more dead than alive at this point.
The drugs would get here regardless. Too much demand
Because they don’t care. Their political aspirations are more important than the law, much less the safety of people.
Dude fentanyl is scary and the people that are hooked know that it's Russian roulette but still do it that's how addicting it is
If you are a new user you are playing Russian roulette. If you’re a daily user with a tolerance then not so much. I’ve shot fentanyl for a few weeks here and there but with a heroin tolerance and have been fine. If only heroin was still around more heavily then there wouldn’t be as many ODs. They need to start offering MAT therapy in the forms of heroin like Switzerland and even fentanyl therapy as a taper at least. I have friends who try to get on methadone from an IV fentanyl habit and can’t stay un-sick at 230mg of methadone a day. They keep on using so they’re not still sick and end up with a double habit of methadone and fentanyl.
Preferably it needs to be legalized. But like Portugal, if you are a user and end up in any sort of criminal trouble that could pertain to your addiction in any way then you must go to a rehab facility or jail. But if your like me who has a job pays his bills, goes to school and does nothing criminal besides using heroin then I don’t see how that’s right. Since all drugs have been decriminalized in Portugal, drug use has gone down not up….
Outstanding guest 👍
I'm so grateful I stopped shooting black tar and clear back in 2018. The fent started getting worked into the Seattle tar around 2012. It was initially more powerful tar coined "pure". It was $80 per gram instead of the old school $80 per 3g mexi ball - initially we had a choice and didn't know it was way stronger because it had fent. Then the raw fent powder started replacing the h entirely and killing us. The few relapses I had over the past few years very nearly killed me, smoking tiny bits of fent powder off foil and just falling out. Mostly illegal Hondurans on deck driving around like they're delivering pizza - very reliable. Who would of thunk good ol decent tar would be a relatively safe, boutique product.
Glad you made it through that. That stuff is not a joke. I had a friend that od’d in the city park and her boyfriend survived. They got the dealer for manslaughter. She was an awesome person and it shook a lot of us up. One of my buddies still can’t believe it. That was around 2013, or 14.
It sure seems like the current drug supply is designed to maim and kill. The trail of deceased and broken people from this is staggering. Sorry about your friend and take care.
You clearly know what you are talking about. I got into the H back in 97 and saw the drastic change in the early 2010's. Legit tar became real hard to find. I got sober in 2013 and after that everyone I knew was dying left and right from the so called roxy 30's. I got out right before the fetty took off. It's a damn shame that prohibition has done with narcotics that it did with alcohol. People went from beer or wine to hard liquors (over 80 proof). We went from actual oxy or H, to fetty and now tranq dope.
The DEA cannot arrest their way out of this. We are in a lot of trouble as a society... Wish I had the answer to this, but we have created our own monster.
I saw the same thing here in Kansas City. I also quit in 2018, and it was because I overdosed so often I knew I was going to die if I didn’t. Unfortunately most of my friends have died because of the fentanyl, and my heart goes out to all those suffering.
The hardest thing for people to understand is that you can't scare an addict into getting clean.
This is about big money. They dont care about that. That's on the individual user.
Solid podcast. Every parent needs to watch!
Spending trillions on the DEA has seemed to increase the availability and consumption? Almost like the $ went to facilitate the spread of narcotics.
yea , the CIA is behind it all .
Thanks for the information
Great work Andy, thanks
I really appreciate the message that this show strives for: never doubt that a few dedicated citizens can change the world. It’s the only thing that ever has!
To Andy and all those involved in this , this show/podcast is absolutely outstanding, keep it going as long as possible. Anyone and everyone watching need to let as many people as you know about this series.
I was in the teams in the late 80’s with the drug war. After several years involved, I realized it was never going to end as long as there’s a demand. There’s just too much reward for the risk.
I was born on the island of Guam and also lived on Saipan so I’m watching just because of that…let’s go
Now there also finding Nitazene…
Respect from Germany
The name of the book he’s talking about @ 18:13 is Dreamland: The True Tale of America's Opiate Epidemic by Sam Quinones
Awesome show. The Frign commercials though. Jesus. 9 times it broke for ads. Brutal.
Anesthetize and tranquilize are two different beastS
Is 4 service whiskey with a "E"?
This detail is important to a Irishman like me.
Listening to new drug evolutions, makes me proud of my heritage
One of the only ways to reduce crime in absence of LEO and anti-crime social attitudes is to move Charles Bronson to the crime-affected area. Kudos to the public servants and model citizens that serve and protect the wellbeing of this nation's communities. Recommended diets for healthy living tend to be high in moral fiber and removal of harmful toxins. This comment is not intended to officially condone or endorse Charles Bronson's methods and tactics.
Love the show. Interesting ad placement for the bourbon. Speaking of socially accepted intoxicants, Every year in the United States, more people die of alcohol-related causes than from opioids and other drugs.
Wow. That’s crazy.
Not true, fentanyl is the leading cause of death for Americans 18-45 for the last 2 or 3 years now. I personally know about 15 people who have died recently from fentanyl. Don't know anybody who was killed by alcohol or anything alcohol related
But yeah alcohol is total fuckin poison too
Great interview, the sponsors half way through the video pissed me off , why interrupt a great conversation . Save all that for the end !
thank you from South Africa - I am certain the issues here are different but the same
Great intro.
This is the 1st guy ive seen that explains the china thing. They are experts on Opium addiction and how it can destroy a aociety, they learned the hard way.
After Ozarks we don't really have an excuse to not be painfully aware of who the cartels answer to...
What is Ozarks? The lake?
Oosh.... 41 years with the DEA and they still lost the war on drugs. Thats got to sting.
Maybe prohibition doesn't work?
32 years, but keep in mind we are also fighting a losing war on homicides…. Murder rate is higher today than 70 years ago. Should we legalize murder? Prohibition of murder is not working. It’s not a war on drugs it’s a war on drug harm. When you reduce the supply you reduce the harm. Fentanyl needs to be stopped. All tools used!
Thank you.
All about the money...they do not care about lives
How can I work for, & help your organization!? Where do you need the most help?
They mix drugs a lot in Montana. The current trend right now in Montana is a new spice that the high lasts 8-10 minutes. But, now they are mixing meth laced with fentanyl or without and with this new spice to make the high last longer when they want that. The idea behind this drug is so someone can do it quick and not get caught high. Especially with the new spice you can’t test for it until you get the chemical structure into the testing facilities so they can get away with it. The problem with spice is you can get really violent on this drug and have crazy reactions. If someone is reacting any way that I describe and they have paper on them or strips of paper more than likely the paper is coated with the drug for consumption or smoking. They can coat it on anything not just paper. Watch out 406.
Great information 👍
Excellent
Bro said don’t sleep on methamphetamine loool trust brother, they won’t 💯
1495 kilos of Colombian bam bam, huh? Anyone know where this truck is today? Lol
Read the book fentanyl inc he explains how they create different types of drugs to beat the tests. Unbelievable research check it out so frightening
We REALLY need xylazine in the vet med industry, I will be heartbroken if there is a shortage. We use it as a low cost desexing clinic because it is a cheaper drug and very effective.
There won’t be a shortage but probably if it’s scheduled the rules about how you handle it will change drastically. Vets are currently the reason why it’s not a scheduled (illegal) drug on the federal side.
Wasn't tranq the main drug in RoboCop2?
Nope it was called nuke, would have been cool tho.
I want to know if that stuff that veterinarian use is not against the law to have why can't we pass a law to make it if it isn't going to a veterinarian you go to jail? How can we get this done I'm a grandmother 👵 and all this is new to me? Do I call my congressman or governor or who? What do I say?
Did you guys tell Andy to take his shirt off for these videos yet
The rise of synthetics is a hugely understated phenomenon that shows what the pushers will do for higher profits. The unwanted side effects and toxicity w synthetics are almost always way nastier too. To anyone struggling w this stuff. Don't let some MF making money off the siphoning away of your life be the reason you get taken out. Imagine how you'd feel if it were ur sibling or parents that it were happening to. Now take a deep breath and realize thats exactly how they're feeling w you usin. Not to make you feel bad, but this is what it is.
Andy! Totally off topic but did you know your family’s last name is on the ferry in the movie “Dejá Vu with Denzel Washington? Have a photo if you want to see proof.
Cheers !
Is this why everyone is talking about “zombie guns” now lol
39:23 China is also partnering with Mexico and putting in corporations and businesses there.
China has been pushing this stuff since 2000 and meth even earlier than that. Same for opium.
Yep. It's war in a different form, and it pays for itself with a tidy profit.
we need a large task force to go after these Cartels all their drugs are poison in the usa
And top it off who has paid the price for this?!?! Big pharma is fined amd none jailed
Dear Iron Clad, long time listener here with a message. I cannot listen to the podcast any longer due to the FREQUENT AND HORRIBLE ADS!!!
I don't normally write this but you folks need to know what is happening behind the scenes.
The messages you bring are some of the best but the frequency of the ads is TOO Much.
Guys this is great .. but can we focus on the new battlefield tech and how flying small personal drones aka land mines are targeting soldiers in a terrifying way .. we have seen Ukraine and Russia use these to horrible endings .. how can the modern warriors defend himself against this new threat ? No one seems to have an answer.. I’m not talking about predator drones but very small personal drones loaded with explosives like a floating land mine .. and once ai gets involved it’s a game changer .. how are we going to counterattack this new threat ? RLTW
In order to fix this problem, we have to fix the problem in our government. We gotta get these corrupt politicians out of office. The Democrat cabal has got to go and the rhinos that helped protect them. We need to take the house in the Senate in 2024 then we can fix some problems not until then.
Believing in authority is the problem why do we allow ourselves to be ruled over by certain people? They are just people
First thing to remember is? We need to help each other out in every way we can? We are all Brothers and Sisters in the bigger picture. Somewhere we all just lost our way somehow? and forgot how to act like it? Try giving a sandwich to someone in need? Or a little spare change? Or maybe while going by,? Just say Hi normally? Just don't keep staring, Or doing nothing at all. Something's got to change people?
Should have interviewed Amber! 😂💪
49:41. This is going to sound maybe a little bit strange.
Great Podcast! Very Informative! My view is if American Drug Addicts r not Buying. Cartels r not selling! It all starts with the Addicts!
Unfortunately this issue has caused those of us who need pain meds to not be able to get them anymore which has led to a lg amt of ppl to commit suicide. I have RSD and they want to treat my pain w suboxone when ive never even abused drugs. Ive never even touched street drugs. Even cancer pts have had their meds stopped. Im so fed up w this problem. Im also fed up and upset bc of ppl close to me that have issues w meth etc
Hi Lauri, I hope things get better for you.
@@ElyPowell not yet but I still have hope lol. Tyvm
I know an Officer from 5th Special Forces Group who became a DEA agent...and quit...in the middle of a huge Fentanyl Crisis. He must know something we all do not know, ese vato loco. Care for a Cheech and Chong movie and t-shirt?
I once knew a chicken named Bart, the old dog is still around, but sputters.
Get test kits kids , you can trust a stranger, just not the drugs you get from them. If we start with education and responsible use practices, then people probably wouldn't try things so randomly. we tell people to drink responsibly. Why can't we do that for chemicals that get pushed on us Americans.
My partying days are over, but if you have to bust out a test kit to see if the product you're using might kill you I would have never tried anything. You would also have to test every bit of powder to be truly safe (chocolate chip cookie effect).
I just will never understand? If you are a drug user of any kind? And you first hear of a new drug,? Or physically witness somebody using a drug like Trang? Just seeing someone react like they do while on Trang? I would think that the physical reaction by someone on this one drug*? Would scare any drug user away from that drug? How can anybody seek a certain drug like Trang? So they can act like these poor fools on our city streets, hunched over looking at the ground? I just do not understand? Ike when first hearing of Heroin and how you had to shoot it with a needle to get high. And after the first high? Your hooked almost guaranteed? Help me understand people? As a Country, We all need to get our stuff together.
I'm hmm it has been here 20 years
Three ads within the first 8mins fo this video. This bullshit is getting out of hand.
Yeah here in Philly it’s a real thing. It’s nasty and eats you up
He should of touched on nitizines. That's the new drug that's going to take over.
A requirement for the Border to work is to deport, deport, and more deport.
WHO IS SUPPLYING.
instant ZAP.😮
People have to decide not to take drugs!
I hate drugs with a passion.
Thank you Biden this is your doing
Wow 33k views in one month 🤦🏽♂️ the whole country needs to see this
Unless you have been living under a bridge U gotta know using illegal drugs is Russian Roulette! Not a moral judgment just a physical fact!!!
The CIA along with their little contra buddy Oscar Danilo Blandón brought the coke in to LA.
Sadly my kids know the effects from losing friends and family to the Chinese yes the Chinese
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Are you chasing the dragon, or are you chasing your tail ?
The dragon
the white rabbit
The brown fox
The Floor.
Once you start chasing any drug, especially opiates, or meth or Coke, you can care less about that and you will sell your soul. That’s unless you get You get clean and sober and find sobriety and don’t put poison in your body.
Hipocrites selling alcohol talking about how bad drugs are
Zombie land is real folks
Nothing will change with Biden and Mayorkas in situ.
WTF thinks taking this shit is a good idea? Seriously, at that point, is there any saving these people?
They don't know it's tranq at first, it mimics real fentanyl. Till it's too late you're hooked and no other drug makes you unsick.
For the same reason to take any drug. It’s not done because it’s a good idea. It’s done because it’s a good escape from a shitty reality.
I’ve seen the golden child turn into a monster.
Who? Your neighbor. Your teammate. Your uncle. Your teacher.
We don’t know what tomorrow brings.
Not tuci??
Oh, that's for rich drug addicts.
I’ve been doing drugs my whole life today I’m 36. I’ve never once seen this shit I’ve seen crack Coke meth fentanyl every prescription pill from the persons bottle with her name on owe deed once still have all my teeth and my wife’s nurse practitioner 😂😂😂
Time tells
Are you New? This has been in Seattle for the last 2 plus years, do better.
🇺🇲 Trump for President 🇺🇸
Listen at some point Drug Addicts not worth saving! Yup about Meth True almost killed me Scary Shit!
NOW GET MAD SERVIVE SHARE A BEER WTF ?