The 48V is even more significant than a factor of 4. Power loss (over)heating of the wires is proportional to current squared, so reduced by a factor of 16.
@woolychewbakker5277 48V may "have been around in vehicles" but AFAIK only two(!) *passenger* cars do have 48V *components* ATM (Audi SQ7 and Bentley Betayga).
Thanks for the report. CT is definitely a more advanced vehicle than was priced in 2019, so the additional cost isn't as far out of line as it seems at first glance. That said I had planned on getting the tri-motor, but will probably have to settle for a dual motor truck. Don't be too surprised if the number of trucks produces ramps up a little faster than expected. Update: Accepted an invitation from Tesla to put a deposit on a Foundation Series CT. Estimated delivery January to March. 😃
Cybertruck as a 680 mile range hybrid - If we have 340m range from 123kWh in the specs that implies 2.76m/kWh. Driving at 68mph it takes 5 hrs to cover 340m. If you could fit the REX 647cc generator pack from a BMW i3 into the cubby under the rear truck bed, that 25kw electrical output would provide 125kWh so an additional ~340 miles if the generator were to be run continually for the 5 hrs, on those occasions when 340 miles is not enough.
Well. originally I was planning to purchase the Tri-motor version at 69K, but that is now the price for the Dual-motor, so I guess I will have to wait to see if by the time I get to my reservation, the Tri-motor would had dropped its price. In any case, my reservation # is 1.4 million plus, so it will take a couple of years at least!!!!
What I don't get is it costs $20,000 for 1 more motor. No extra battery, no other differences (aside from the extra torque / hp / quickness of the 3rd motor). That price difference doesn't add up at all to me. I thought I would be able to get a 500 mile range 3 motor CT. I definitely won't be at that price and specs.
They probably didn't talk about the range extender as it's a reminder of how far the range is from 500+ miles promised in 2019 for the top trim. It also makes people question the efficiency, with a large separate pack required just to come close to the promised range for top spec
I think the extended battery should be modular so it can be installed into the truck as needed for towing, but removed and put into a floor/Wall caddy to charge and provide house power.
I think the price is perfect. Why? The long wait list. As they catch up with demand, then lower prices. Hopefully, the actual production price is low enough to make a net operating profit within 12 months, and will fall from there.
Pricing is on par with other EV offerings.Tesla needs to protect their margins. The same people complaining about price were moaning two weeks ago that Tesla was lower prices top much and need to do marketing.
I think you’re sorely mistaken. Elon blamed the price on inflation and if he really blamed it on inflation, he would’ve only raised the prices 20% and that’s what inflation is from four years ago. He may be a brilliant guy, but he’s also a snake oil salesman, and he is banking on the hype and in my opinion, that is bad business. He really should honor the prices that he bragged about four years ago and just adjust them for inflation. If you noticed, Elon said nothing about the price at the reveal event yesterday, which was really a cheap shot since he revolved his entire presentation four years ago around the prices, again, bad business.
Agreed. While we haven’t seen it, there was a video with Sandy where he opened the power control screen and it seem to indicate that there is one in the fronk on the right. So maybe…
I think the drive-by-wire which seems to be implemented well and is approved in the EU and in the US is one of the features that will change the whole automotive industry what comes to all future cars.
Another hidden detail is the headlights! None of the promotional photos show them (even when in the dark), they just show the daytime running light bar. The actual headlights are below in the black slit above the front bumper 💡
Concerning the Cybertruck's towing ability, something I haven't seen addressed is whether or not it will be able to use its sensors and auto drive features to automatically align the hitch/ball. And whether or not it will be able to back up using FSD with a trailer attached. Do you have any info?
@@rataflas If you want to try to wait it out you can config the single motor version if your reservation comes up. We know that is not available until 2025/2026 so that would give you an extra year or more to see if prices on the 2 or 3 motor become digestable and for the 4680's to get their silicoln without having to cancel anything.
Electric trucks in general undeniably come with a hefty price tag, making them seem like a luxury for the well-off. One major issue that continues to concern potential buyers is range anxiety, especially when dealing with substantial payloads or towing needs. It's crucial to recognize that a truck has traditionally been a reliable workhorse, offering more benefits than it consumes in terms of money and upkeep. In contrast, electric vehicles often feel more like the indulgent racing horses of the wealthy. While they have their place and advantages, they may never fully replace the trusty conventional gas trucks that have been the backbone of the industry for decades.
I'll tell you what I've noticed but never mentioned in any previous comment and that is an absolute *WORLD RECORD* in distance from steering wheel to bottom of front windshield. I think there is enough space to fit a medium sized farm animal there!
@@pedipedi9559 Besides car is already a weapon. Every car manufacturer is making and testing cars to absorb kinetic energy as opposed to this one, rigid and no testing.
I think you completely missed the point of the range extender pack. This will be a quick-exchangable accessary at charging stations in the future, which means that you don't need to stay at the charging station for at least 30 minutes to recharge your truck. A robotic arm will grab your range extender pack, and then replace it with a fully-charged one in 10 seconds; and then you are ready to go.
Jon, what I want to know is: Why isn't anyone talking about whether or not the cab-bed window can be opened. I see tents as accessories, but I want to know if HVAC air can get back to the bed area for car camping. I guess we haven't had a truck camping person review the CT yet.
The pricing will come down eventually. The Model S went from about 130k to 90k over the last few years. My biggest disappointment is the lack of the 500-mile range. I certainly don't want an additional huge battery in the bed. Why not use that space under the truck bed for the battery pack? We reserved a tri motor with 500 miles but probably will settle for the dual motor. Hopefully we'll be able to buy a "boost" function down the road.
When they add silicoln to the 4680's it will give it at least a 15% capacity improvement so the tri should jump to about 370 and the 2 motor to about 400 without any additiuonal weight or batteries.
At 1:53, is it a 40a or 50a, that socket is 50amps... Just checked the details, sounds like you are right, the bed 120/240vac is 9.6kW continuous. Although, it still says 110A "LRA Motor Start", (Locked Rotor Amperage) which is a peak start power, sounds like normally this is about a half second, so that's a momentary peak load of 26.4kW!
Yes it's comparable to its truck competition, but the average truck is NOT affordable and neither is the CyberTruck. Vehicles in general have gotten ridiculously expensive and for whatever reason, people with more money than sense have just kept buying them. >$1000/mon. is a crazy amount of money for a depreciating asset like a vehicle, even if you have the money.
Will a Kool-Aid dispenser be available at each passenger location? hopefully the truck will be able to hold enough Kool-Aid to last slightly longer than the estimated mileage of a fully charge battery pack.
Because my reservation is 1,479,000ish in line, I'm sure many things (price, specs, range) will change before I can get it. I was really hoping for a minimum of 400 miles of real world range for remote camping and towing, without a range extender. We will see where we are in five years when mine is ready. No point in worrying yet.
Another good thing, 48v system has no converter to use the network equpment on the stear by wire. I wonder if the power requrements can be used on the PoE.This will save copper also.
Thanks for what you do. Blown away by the CT event in Austin and somewhat amazed (but not surprised) at all the bad press after the event. This is no longer about specs or price. That’s just noise. It’s all about the future or the past and Tesla’s ability to create the future has not moved others cheese but disintegrated it. Onward to the future.
Tell Elon to stick it up his butt would be the smart choice. It's a bigger joke than the semi. Musk fanboys praise it , the people who actually use trucks for what they build trucks for are laughing at it. F350 owners will line up to challenge it's towing range.
How does it drive? Is it practical as a pick-up truck? Is it reliable? How much does a wheel, a windshield or a bumped side panel repair cost? Which insurance companies are available, and how much do they cost? How do these answers compare with other electric pick-ups? These are really the priority answers we need. Techno stuff such as LED lights or 48V circuitry should come second. The video footage of the truck driving over a rocky terrain shows terrible suspensions. Because of the weight, maybe? Not sure if this footage is actually from the production or pre-production truck.
I suspect that we’ll see another 20% hike in battery power density in the next 3 years which will mean that the vehicle will have a 400+ range as standard by the time volume ramp up happens.
Awesome content a as always. Dillon from Electrified made a good case that adjusted for inflation, the price is about the same as originally advertised. 👍🏼
I wonder when the truck will come to Europe, if ever? Some info from Tesla would be nice, I'm sure they have quite a few reservation holders from over here.
Pricing is competitive with comparative model listed here in your video. With that said the Cybertruck delivers more bang for the buck hands down. As far as the cost increasing, well, name anything that really does not cost more than it did in 2019. It is really an aesthetic decision.........Homer and Jethro or Captain Fantastic!
My guess is he didn’t talk about range extender because it would high light how off they were on trimotor range. On the down low upping dual motor range and coming close on trimotor is a roughly even trade off but easy to cast stones at if highly publicized. Either that or he was too rushed on his apology tour to put together a good presentation. Many other things were off too.
Why couldn't the extender pack be modular and removable in say 10 separate units from the extender box? This would allow the truck owner to remove battery in a 1-2 hour procedure, remove extender box and store when not needed instead of hauling the extra weight all the time.
The range extender battery will also have to be connected to the Cybertruck's cooling system, requiring modifications to the vehicle's internal plumbing. Presumably, Tesla has planned for this with appropriate interconnects which will make the installation at Tesla Service Centers as easy as possible.
@@jamespaul2587 Especially one that blocks a significant portion of the truck bed. It would make more sense to have it sized to fit the bed's width/length and make it thinner.
@@jamespaul2587 The internal battery is probably already at its maximum physical size. Making it larger would have necessitated stacking a second layer of cells on top and nearly doubling the height of the pack. Doing so would have affected the floor height, headroom and ground clearance. This, in spite of using a brand new version of the 4680 cells with increased energy capacity. Clearly, Tesla's range predictions five years ago were optimistic, but it was hard to predict range with accuracy since the cells didn't exist yet.
@toddr.lockwood1594 132 kWH is not a particularly large pack for such a vehicle, especially with the increased efficiency of packaging for 4680 cells. I think the real issue is reduced efficiency of the vehicle, compared to expectations and promises 4 years ago.
The CyberTrucks battery is equivalent to 9 powerwalls ($6k ea) at $55k total so you get to back up your home, have Mobile energy on tap, and get the base model truck for only $5k ($60k-55k)!
Why would the range extender require special extraction equipment if CT suspension can be raised to say, “Extract mode”… then back up to a shelf or forks located at supercharger stations? Lower the suspension back down and leave the depleted one there to charge and grab a freshly charged one in no time. A rental “fleet” of extenders could be available wherever needed… and incentives provided to drop yours off where the most demand is. Make $ with your range extenders rented by others only when needed.. not permanently affixed.
Because the CT is direct drive from the motors to the wheels. The semi has a gearbox between the motor and the drive axels. They didn't wanna add clutches to the drivetrain and increase complexity, so they just didn't do it.
The CT rear motors are induction motors. Unlike the magnet (IPM) semi motors, an induction motor can free spin and therefore, there is zero benefit to decouple them.
By the time you put the extended battery in the bed and the spare tire in the bed you might as well keep your gas or diesel truck for camping so you have room in the bed for your stuff. Since the spare tire on those is under the bed.
@@markmartin6436 That is correct. I am definitely interested in electric vehicles, but until they make sense financially, they are just too expensive to justify currently.
You forgot one little thing? The government will mandate by law the all vehicles must be EVs by a certain date. Unless you are willing to have a revolution to change that law, you are stuck.
@@eagle25311 well as volume sales go up prices will come down, look at the other Tesla cars. And do t forget the government rebate. It’s all relative, Factory Robots don’t demand pay increase or Medical Coverage, or extended sick pay benefit
While the Cybertruck prices are higher than originally estimated, don’t forget that the 2 lower spec versions qualify for the $7,500 Tax Credit. And the credit will be applied at the time of sale in 2024, vs. waiting to get it months later when you do your taxes. That makes the 2 lower spec variants start at about $52,500 and $72,500. Yes, that’s still higher than originally promised, but not as bad as it looks initially. I think it’s a helluva buy given what it offers!
@@Khanfuzed1 Actually even the 340 mile range AWD is impractical for a pickup: .60 x 340 = 204, but then on top of that you lose a lot of range driving at freeway speeds (80 mph), and more if it's cold winter weather, and more with a heavy pay load, and way, way more if you're hauling a trailer, and more still as the battery degrades. All of these add up. You really need the 500+ miles of nominal range on a an electric pickup to make it practical in the real world.
@@hugoknight1 $20 billion in annual US subsidies make gasoline much cheaper so people will use gas; and oil companies can make even more billions - even though it puts much carbon & pollution in the atmosphere. If you’re against gov’t subsidies, then I assume you want to get rid of ALL subsidies - including the billions that Uncle Sam has been handing out to the likes of Exxon and Shell over the decades. Without those subsidies, gas would cost over $10/gal. How would THAT affect your budget? Not to mention the increased cost effect that would have on freight and manufacturing, basically increasing the cost of everything! So, let’s level the playing field, okay? Also, if you can’t afford a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range, about $31,500 after the federal tax credit, with basically no ongoing maintenance costs and “fuel” (electricity) costing 1/8 what gas costs, well then your life really IS a sad, tragic story.
@@vulpo If you’re towing things all the time for long distances, then, yes, 250 miles is too little range. But 340 miles should be enough. Plus, with the 800 volt architecture, recharging at a Tesla Supercharger will be significantly faster, and blazingly fast with the new V4’s starting to be installed. PepsiCo is very pleased with the Tesla Semi’s performance in both range variants: 300 & 500 miles. Also, I’m not sure where the 60% rule is coming from? I’ve had 2 Model S’s over the years and charged them up to 90% nightly at home. My current 2016 Model S had a range of 315 miles when new. Currently, it still tops out at 294 miles when charged to 100%. After 8 years. And I drive it between MI and FL several times a year, many times I do it in less than 24 hours. Not towing anything, but the point being range loss is minimal even charging to 90% daily at home. And the Tesla Supercharger network is fantastic. And cheaper than gas,
This is the conversation at TESLA HQ. "Let's design a vehicle that looks really f'king hideous. Like it's been designed by a group of preschool kids with learning difficulties, because there are, believe it or not, stupid people out there who will buy this turd. People with no taste, no self awareness, too thick to realise why everyone 's laughing, and really no shame"
THANKS JON 🤗 FOR CLEARLY EXPLAINING THE FEATURES, For the laypeople 👍 and IMHHO ,pricing allows TESLA to manage the demands equitably and still take advantage of the tax breaks 🤷♂️
Could be quite practical, say a 30kW generator in the back would mean you could drive continuously without having to stop. In addition, if you were working somewhere off-grid, could use the generator to charge the CT during the day and have your campsite/trailer powered at night (silently) from the CT.
Even better, a fuel cell running off LNG or propane (or even gasoline) would be about twice as efficient. Would also add some heat if needed in a cold environment. Last I looked into it there were a few companies working on residential fuel cells, and various refinements over the last twenty years have greatly reduced costs - but not sure if they are yet at the point where they could be made affordably for this use case.
here's some more details you may have missed According to a German TUV safety certification expert, the Tesla Cybertruck will require “strong modifications to the basic structure” before it can be sold in Europe 1. The Cybertruck is classified as a light-duty truck in the USA, which exempts it from many safety regulations, including for pedestrian safety. However, this is not the case in Europe, where the vehicle must comply with 50 to 60 different regulations 1. The front of the vehicle must not be stiff, and the bumper and bonnet must be able to absorb energy to protect pedestrians 1. The Cybertruck’s rolled stainless steel structure and panels are stiff and strong, which is great for resisting damage but less so for the occupants and unwitting pedestrians 1. Stefan Teller, an automotive expert at SGS-TUV Saar GmbH, outlined his concerns about the Cybertruck, stating that “nothing is deformed in the event of an impact. Instead, enormous forces act on the occupants. Airbags then no longer help”
@@hotrodandrube9119 Saw the Picture of it related to the size of a Delorean the thing is immense and before you say it is no bigger than any other big American truck, could be why we don't see them much on Irish and British roads. Bet it hampers/stretches your parking skills in your local Tesco?
doubling the voltage and keeping the same wattage, you lower the current to 1/4 of the amps. that is why i wish the us had a base home voltage of 240v instead of the 120v, like most other countries!
The torque specs are mind boggling! I hope it's not a typo. Tesla says the the torque specs of the Cyberbeast increased 10 times from over 1000ft-lbs.in the original 2019 trimototor truck to almost 10,300ft-lbs.of torque. If it's accurate, that's a crazy increase.
@@OrwellNailedIt cringe. They advertise wheel toque instead of torque at the motor. Do you really think it has 15x torque over a rivian? If you use wheel torque of a F-350 it’s like 15000 lol
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f I think it’s embarrassing that you are quoting a truck has 10k+ of torque. We can all tell the Tesla guys who have never towed a day in their life when they quote numbers like that. A semi truck can tow 80,000 pound but has 1/5 the toque of a truck that can tow 11,000 pounds… you’re serious stating that? 😂😂😂😂
I don't care about the price It's always expensive initially until economics of scale and new manufacturing methods make the var cheaper The thing I would want to see is a durability test: Cybertruck In tough terrain driving, in the mud, while in rocket fall How it can help average American worker increase productivity
The one thing I didn’t miss was the $100K tri motor sales price and the disappointing 340 mile range that was supposed to be 500 miles! Pre order canceled, going to buy my back up Tundra TRD Pro!
Hi Jon. Big fan. What is the Cleanerwatt image/symbol? The yellow and blue? Just curious. In any case, I think the price is right where it's supposed to be and the specs are fine. Only not smart people would be mad that the price isn't the same after the last 4 years of insanity. I was greatly disappointed with the event. Short, very little information... If I took off work to go to that, I'd be so pissed.
The price is in 2019 dollars no one is allowing for inflation to 2024 dollars. I think the price is spot on same price as a standard model X, I would buy the dual motor Cyber truck in a heartbeat over the X!
THE MAIN QUESTION DOES IT FLOAT??? ❤😊😮wow thank you 😅 🙏 I love he Cyber truck more ❤️. so please they're finally got to 48 volt make so much sense and obviously the bigger the voltage the better. it's the amps that kill you.... I could see a day when we have may have search. technology should be thousands of vaults and low amps ??? 😊😊. but that's for a truck goes. this is good could do a smaller one for the UK roads about the same size of my land rover. that's the only criticism 😮🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you
A good video to make could be one that points out all the NEW features and designs that justify more of the price increase over the inflation rate. This video listed some of them, but not really making that point. 250 miles is way too low, even for the single motor. 300 miles should be the minimum. Great video.😊
"But it has tiny little halfshafts with delicate CV joints." Given the hauling/tow capacities of the CT, I expect the engineering of those parts will be sufficient. Or do you have some evidence of your assertion?
I've had a reservation for a couple of years. Based on the announced pricing I'll ask for my $100 refund. While I think that I'll eventually own one it will likely be a Version 2 and hopefully when/if the price is reduced.
I greatly disagree, price won’t affect demand (vs production). Price will be adjusted to keep demand reasonable as compared to its production as Tesla has done with its other models. Despite the FUD Tesla has done very well so far in doing this across their product line.
I have a crane/cherry picker. If they make it so once installed you can't remove it.... that's a #fail. They should've designed a double-stack battery pack under the floor like the Hummer so they could offer a single-stack version for the cheap trim levels, and a double-stack giving +500 miles on a long-range trim level.
I was hoping for 69k for a dual motor. While I do have reservations, I will be saving for the n3xt 2 to 3 years, and hopefully, rates go back down. I'm hoping to save 30 to 40k and trade in my car which I should get 15 to 18k this way I will only need 30k loan.
Don’t think pricing is much of an issue. More than enough reservations to allow Tesla to sell every single vehicle they can make for years to come even at these price levels. People that want to be first will be willing to pay. It’s the same with all technology. The early adopters pay the R&D and ramp costs and the buyers a few years down the track get better pricing. Eventually CyberTruck might be the best selling truck in the world.
For the few that can afford the top model do you think the Cybertruck actually would have enough room to shoe horn the extra batteries underneath the vehicle instead of a tool box feature. Charge more money if someone wants that option
"Overall so far it looks like the Cybertruck is living up to all its hype." Well, let's see: 500+ mile range? Nope. A mere 320 for the tri-motor which is 20 less than the dual-motor gets! $69,900? Nope. $100K!!! How about that telescoping tailgate ramp? Nope. What about the sail pillar storage? Nope. And please keep in mind that these were all features still being hyped on Tesla's own website up until LAST WEEK! [EDIT] Oops! Almost forgot: 3500 pound payload capacity? Nope. Only 2500. 14,000 pound towing capacity? Nope. Only 11,000. But I do love the things they added that were not hyped in the original design: - the rear-wheel steering - the Powershare V2H charging - the 17.44" maximum clearance - the locking differential (nice to have if you get stuck in mud or snow)
Up to the hype? Really? Musk promised a range of 500 miles. But now a range extender has to that the trick. If Ford would have done that everybody would critise them, but Tesla can do that.
I hope the ditch the range extender in the bed and incorporate it into the main pack instead by the time I’m ready to order. The range is not good enough to use it as a truck replacement. I don’t think I could tow my toy hauler more than 100 miles :/
Base model: 250 miles range, 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, bed width is a state secret. How they are going to balance the fresh new extender with worn out traction battery? I predict more EV fires because of that. That extender image in Tesla pages us a rendering, not a picture; the final design of bed lining is not looking like that. It is FIXED. You have to go to a garage to get it installed/removed. Also: if you charge half of the batteries separately, you will end up with imbalance. You will need a switch(es) to somewhat circumvent that issue. Those (tb¹/2-tb²/2-extender) switches are new points of failure and are having some electrical loss, too.
The price is the same as when announced 4 years ago taking inflation into account. But of course the media will jump on it saying the price went up 50% for the base model...forgetting inflation, but it sells newspapers....
The 48V is even more significant than a factor of 4. Power loss (over)heating of the wires is proportional to current squared, so reduced by a factor of 16.
@woolychewbakker5277 48V may "have been around in vehicles" but AFAIK only two(!) *passenger* cars do have 48V *components* ATM (Audi SQ7 and Bentley Betayga).
Thanks for the report. CT is definitely a more advanced vehicle than was priced in 2019, so the additional cost isn't as far out of line as it seems at first glance. That said I had planned on getting the tri-motor, but will probably have to settle for a dual motor truck. Don't be too surprised if the number of trucks produces ramps up a little faster than expected.
Update: Accepted an invitation from Tesla to put a deposit on a Foundation Series CT. Estimated delivery January to March. 😃
I like how you are not biased all the time, and give great detailed and accurate information, thank you
Cybertruck as a 680 mile range hybrid - If we have 340m range from 123kWh in the specs that implies 2.76m/kWh. Driving at 68mph it takes 5 hrs to cover 340m. If you could fit the REX 647cc generator pack from a BMW i3 into the cubby under the rear truck bed, that 25kw electrical output would provide 125kWh so an additional ~340 miles if the generator were to be run continually for the 5 hrs, on those occasions when 340 miles is not enough.
Well. originally I was planning to purchase the Tri-motor version at 69K, but that is now the price for the Dual-motor, so I guess I will have to wait to see if by the time I get to my reservation, the Tri-motor would had dropped its price. In any case, my reservation # is 1.4 million plus, so it will take a couple of years at least!!!!
Their prediction is 78000 for the next year couple of years sounds like a Musk prediction for the Mars landing.
What I don't get is it costs $20,000 for 1 more motor. No extra battery, no other differences (aside from the extra torque / hp / quickness of the 3rd motor). That price difference doesn't add up at all to me. I thought I would be able to get a 500 mile range 3 motor CT. I definitely won't be at that price and specs.
They probably didn't talk about the range extender as it's a reminder of how far the range is from 500+ miles promised in 2019 for the top trim. It also makes people question the efficiency, with a large separate pack required just to come close to the promised range for top spec
Absolutely love it. Complete beast.Powerful. Fast. Unbreakable. Comfortable. Epic utility. V2L. Massive technology powerhouse. Quiet. Smooth. Colossal effort, Tesla engineers 🤜 💥 🤛
What happens if you put an egg into an unbreakable box and throw it against a wall
Unbreakable, just means it is a road weapon. It should not be allowed to be driven on public roads.
@micixduda lol. People soon won't be allowed to drive on public roads. That's the safety improvement you're looking for.
@@garethrobinson2275 lol, no you should see some car crash tests. Maybe you'll get the picture.
I think the extended battery should be modular so it can be installed into the truck as needed for towing,
but removed and put into a floor/Wall caddy to charge and provide house power.
I think the price is perfect. Why? The long wait list. As they catch up with demand, then lower prices. Hopefully, the actual production price is low enough to make a net operating profit within 12 months, and will fall from there.
Pricing is on par with other EV offerings.Tesla needs to protect their margins. The same people complaining about price were moaning two weeks ago that Tesla was lower prices top much and need to do marketing.
@@harrychu650Yup. Tesla can't win with these people.
I think you’re sorely mistaken. Elon blamed the price on inflation and if he really blamed it on inflation, he would’ve only raised the prices 20% and that’s what inflation is from four years ago. He may be a brilliant guy, but he’s also a snake oil salesman, and he is banking on the hype and in my opinion, that is bad business. He really should honor the prices that he bragged about four years ago and just adjust them for inflation. If you noticed, Elon said nothing about the price at the reveal event yesterday, which was really a cheap shot since he revolved his entire presentation four years ago around the prices, again, bad business.
Almost 100k still no driver side screen like model S
@@-WandreW-that would be an unnecessary waste of money and resources. You don’t need it.
They should have added a power outlet in the frunk. It would be the perfect place to charge power tools.
Agreed. While we haven’t seen it, there was a video with Sandy where he opened the power control screen and it seem to indicate that there is one in the fronk on the right. So maybe…
So you can charge in the cab and in the bed. There both have Lots of room, but Must charge in the smallest area space..... why?
Yup. Next gen perhaps…
I think the drive-by-wire which seems to be implemented well and is approved in the EU and in the US is one of the features that will change the whole automotive industry what comes to all future cars.
It's not new Lexus is doing it to !
How long will it take to fully charge from 0 to 100? Using a super charger? And the upgraded kit for your home garage?
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f base model … not extended. Just curious
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f I’m interested in a Tesla… but would have to upgrade my garage to a fast charger plug. Expensive?
Another hidden detail is the headlights! None of the promotional photos show them (even when in the dark), they just show the daytime running light bar. The actual headlights are below in the black slit above the front bumper 💡
Concerning the Cybertruck's towing ability, something I haven't seen addressed is whether or not it will be able to use its sensors and auto drive features to automatically align the hitch/ball. And whether or not it will be able to back up using FSD with a trailer attached. Do you have any info?
Dual Motor Cybertruck Release vs 2019:
Overall Size reduced 5%,
Top Speed reduced 7%,
Payload reduced 29%
What is the savings of this reduction ? A Price increase of 60% , what a value...
I totally agree.... I have a pre-order and not sure if I should move forward
@@rataflas If you want to try to wait it out you can config the single motor version if your reservation comes up. We know that is not available until 2025/2026 so that would give you an extra year or more to see if prices on the 2 or 3 motor become digestable and for the 4680's to get their silicoln without having to cancel anything.
@@vulpo The single and Dual motor varients have the promised range but You are correct that the tri motor came in 36% of what was promised in 2019
Electric trucks in general undeniably come with a hefty price tag, making them seem like a luxury for the well-off. One major issue that continues to concern potential buyers is range anxiety, especially when dealing with substantial payloads or towing needs. It's crucial to recognize that a truck has traditionally been a reliable workhorse, offering more benefits than it consumes in terms of money and upkeep. In contrast, electric vehicles often feel more like the indulgent racing horses of the wealthy. While they have their place and advantages, they may never fully replace the trusty conventional gas trucks that have been the backbone of the industry for decades.
I'll tell you what I've noticed but never mentioned in any previous comment and that is an absolute *WORLD RECORD* in distance from steering wheel to bottom of front windshield. I think there is enough space to fit a medium sized farm animal there!
Windshield wiper size is another record. 😃
A gun rack perfect product for a gun crazy nation.
@@pedipedi9559 Besides car is already a weapon.
Every car manufacturer is making and testing cars to absorb kinetic energy as opposed to this one, rigid and no testing.
@@micixdudaYou know they've done no testing? What's it like working for Tesla? 😂
@@garethrobinson2275 yeah i know, because if they would we would see it.
does the 250 deposit mean the 100 deposit and oreder of reservations is now void?
I think you completely missed the point of the range extender pack. This will be a quick-exchangable accessary at charging stations in the future, which means that you don't need to stay at the charging station for at least 30 minutes to recharge your truck. A robotic arm will grab your range extender pack, and then replace it with a fully-charged one in 10 seconds; and then you are ready to go.
Jon, what I want to know is: Why isn't anyone talking about whether or not the cab-bed window can be opened. I see tents as accessories, but I want to know if HVAC air can get back to the bed area for car camping. I guess we haven't had a truck camping person review the CT yet.
The pricing will come down eventually. The Model S went from about 130k to 90k over the last few years. My biggest disappointment is the lack of the 500-mile range. I certainly don't want an additional huge battery in the bed. Why not use that space under the truck bed for the battery pack?
We reserved a tri motor with 500 miles but probably will settle for the dual motor. Hopefully we'll be able to buy a "boost" function down the road.
I know right?? Subtrunk should have been the obvious place for it because it's inaccessible anyway when the bed is being used to haul stuff.
When they add silicoln to the 4680's it will give it at least a 15% capacity improvement so the tri should jump to about 370 and the 2 motor to about 400 without any additiuonal weight or batteries.
So where are you planning to drive where you would need that much additional range?
@theodorehaskins3756 many will need that range for towing, as efficiently will plummet
@@jamespaul2587 Touché, but that only happens if you have poorly planned your trip don’t cha think?
Really standing apart video then all the rest thank you
At 1:53, is it a 40a or 50a, that socket is 50amps...
Just checked the details, sounds like you are right, the bed 120/240vac is 9.6kW continuous.
Although, it still says 110A "LRA Motor Start", (Locked Rotor Amperage) which is a peak start power, sounds like normally this is about a half second, so that's a momentary peak load of 26.4kW!
The avg truck cost is 66k....the 2motor CT will be 72.5k with tax credit...very affordable with the savings over time
Yes it's comparable to its truck competition, but the average truck is NOT affordable and neither is the CyberTruck. Vehicles in general have gotten ridiculously expensive and for whatever reason, people with more money than sense have just kept buying them. >$1000/mon. is a crazy amount of money for a depreciating asset like a vehicle, even if you have the money.
Don't forget state, county, city and energy company cash and non-cash incentives.
2 motor is the sweet spot it seems. And it is compatible with the extra range battery.
it will take a few days to charge that battery up 😅 dont get the cybertruck. you will be screwed.
Will a Kool-Aid dispenser be available at each passenger location? hopefully the truck will be able to hold enough Kool-Aid to last slightly longer than the estimated mileage of a fully charge battery pack.
Because my reservation is 1,479,000ish in line, I'm sure many things (price, specs, range) will change before I can get it. I was really hoping for a minimum of 400 miles of real world range for remote camping and towing, without a range extender. We will see where we are in five years when mine is ready. No point in worrying yet.
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Just wondering how I can check where at number of my pre order?
Another good thing, 48v system has no converter to use the network equpment on the stear by wire. I wonder if the power requrements can be used on the PoE.This will save copper also.
You are making a very good Video here! I say Thums up, supscribed! Great, i hope, more to come!
So for 50,000wh X (4680 Cell/244Wh)*(355g/4680 cell)/*(1lb/453.6g) ~ 160lb or approx 200lb including cooling and chassis? 200lb to tow around yea?
The $80K AWD is comparable to the Ford Lightning. It makes the Model Y AWD a bargain. The CT is more of a want than a need.
Thanks for what you do. Blown away by the CT event in Austin and somewhat amazed (but not surprised) at all the bad press after the event. This is no longer about specs or price. That’s just noise. It’s all about the future or the past and Tesla’s ability to create the future has not moved others cheese but disintegrated it. Onward to the future.
60% price increase for the dual motor is definitely a disappointment. Not sure what to do with my pre-order to be honest
Please cancel it.
Movin on up!
Cancel !
Tell Elon to stick it up his butt would be the smart choice. It's a bigger joke than the semi. Musk fanboys praise it , the people who actually use trucks for what they build trucks for are laughing at it. F350 owners will line up to challenge it's towing range.
Just hold it and wait. Price will likely come down over time.
@JamesBond-qv2ht so when your time is up you will be allowed to wait to place your order? Never thought about that option
How does it drive? Is it practical as a pick-up truck? Is it reliable?
How much does a wheel, a windshield or a bumped side panel repair cost?
Which insurance companies are available, and how much do they cost?
How do these answers compare with other electric pick-ups?
These are really the priority answers we need.
Techno stuff such as LED lights or 48V circuitry should come second.
The video footage of the truck driving over a rocky terrain shows terrible suspensions. Because of the weight, maybe?
Not sure if this footage is actually from the production or pre-production truck.
Range extender is meant for longe range and constant driving
I suspect that we’ll see another 20% hike in battery power density in the next 3 years which will mean that the vehicle will have a 400+ range as standard by the time volume ramp up happens.
Bingo.
What happened to the 500 mile range? What happened to the top price of $69,000, now $100,000, forget about it.
Damn, I thought the range extender was the Raptor engine?
Ev John ✔️🖖🌍 can't wait to see this cyber beast in the wild!
The Steer By Wire was done in Dec 2022 and published several moths later.
Awesome content a as always. Dillon from Electrified made a good case that adjusted for inflation, the price is about the same as originally advertised. 👍🏼
I wonder when the truck will come to Europe, if ever? Some info from Tesla would be nice, I'm sure they have quite a few reservation holders from over here.
I love ❤️ how there coming out with PPF and accessories it will fit the teslas a lot better then anyone else that makes them plus it’s by Tesla
Pricing is competitive with comparative model listed here in your video. With that said the Cybertruck delivers more bang for the buck hands down. As far as the cost increasing, well, name anything that really does not cost more than it did in 2019. It is really an aesthetic decision.........Homer and Jethro or Captain Fantastic!
My guess is he didn’t talk about range extender because it would high light how off they were on trimotor range. On the down low upping dual motor range and coming close on trimotor is a roughly even trade off but easy to cast stones at if highly publicized. Either that or he was too rushed on his apology tour to put together a good presentation. Many other things were off too.
where did you get 10-15k only info i see says 16k
Why couldn't the extender pack be modular and removable in say 10 separate units from the extender box? This would allow the truck owner to remove battery in a 1-2 hour procedure, remove extender box and store when not needed instead of hauling the extra weight all the time.
The range extender battery will also have to be connected to the Cybertruck's cooling system, requiring modifications to the vehicle's internal plumbing. Presumably, Tesla has planned for this with appropriate interconnects which will make the installation at Tesla Service Centers as easy as possible.
Poor planning to require a heavy, bulky, complex and expensive extra battery rather than having a larger main pack available
@@jamespaul2587 Especially one that blocks a significant portion of the truck bed. It would make more sense to have it sized to fit the bed's width/length and make it thinner.
@@jamespaul2587 The internal battery is probably already at its maximum physical size. Making it larger would have necessitated stacking a second layer of cells on top and nearly doubling the height of the pack. Doing so would have affected the floor height, headroom and ground clearance. This, in spite of using a brand new version of the 4680 cells with increased energy capacity. Clearly, Tesla's range predictions five years ago were optimistic, but it was hard to predict range with accuracy since the cells didn't exist yet.
@toddr.lockwood1594 132 kWH is not a particularly large pack for such a vehicle, especially with the increased efficiency of packaging for 4680 cells. I think the real issue is reduced efficiency of the vehicle, compared to expectations and promises 4 years ago.
Why Tesla wouldnt revolutionize car tires?
Will the truck burn to the ground like a tesla in a flood?
The CyberTrucks battery is equivalent to 9 powerwalls ($6k ea) at $55k total so you get to back up your home, have Mobile energy on tap, and get the base model truck for only $5k ($60k-55k)!
this video is better then that of MKHBD!
From initial reviews this Cybertruck seems to be an absolutely amazing vehicle. People that had doubts are being converted.
Why would the range extender require special extraction equipment if CT suspension can be raised to say, “Extract mode”… then back up to a shelf or forks located at supercharger stations? Lower the suspension back down and leave the depleted one there to charge and grab a freshly charged one in no time. A rental “fleet” of extenders could be available wherever needed… and incentives provided to drop yours off where the most demand is. Make $ with your range extenders rented by others only when needed.. not permanently affixed.
The 240V outlet is 50A if I am not mistaken.
One of the features the semi has, is decoupling a motor/drivetrain to gain efficiencies, curious this was not considered for the CT.
Because the CT is direct drive from the motors to the wheels. The semi has a gearbox between the motor and the drive axels. They didn't wanna add clutches to the drivetrain and increase complexity, so they just didn't do it.
The CT rear motors are induction motors. Unlike the magnet (IPM) semi motors, an induction motor can free spin and therefore, there is zero benefit to decouple them.
By the time you put the extended battery in the bed and the spare tire in the bed you might as well keep your gas or diesel truck for camping so you have room in the bed for your stuff. Since the spare tire on those is under the bed.
I guess green house gases are something you dont care about??
@@markmartin6436 That is correct. I am definitely interested in electric vehicles, but until they make sense financially, they are just too expensive to justify currently.
You forgot one little thing? The government will mandate by law the all vehicles must be EVs by a certain date. Unless you are willing to have a revolution to change that law, you are stuck.
@winstonsmith935 hopefully by then they will be practical and affordable.
@@eagle25311 well as volume sales go up prices will come down, look at the other Tesla cars. And do t forget the government rebate. It’s all relative, Factory Robots don’t demand pay increase or Medical Coverage, or extended sick pay benefit
138k in line. Lets go
While the Cybertruck prices are higher than originally estimated, don’t forget that the 2 lower spec versions qualify for the $7,500 Tax Credit. And the credit will be applied at the time of sale in 2024, vs. waiting to get it months later when you do your taxes. That makes the 2 lower spec variants start at about $52,500 and $72,500. Yes, that’s still higher than originally promised, but not as bad as it looks initially. I think it’s a helluva buy given what it offers!
250 mile range where you’re only supposed to use 20-80% (60% of total battery) that is just unacceptable
@@Khanfuzed1 Actually even the 340 mile range AWD is impractical for a pickup: .60 x 340 = 204, but then on top of that you lose a lot of range driving at freeway speeds (80 mph), and more if it's cold winter weather, and more with a heavy pay load, and way, way more if you're hauling a trailer, and more still as the battery degrades. All of these add up. You really need the 500+ miles of nominal range on a an electric pickup to make it practical in the real world.
Subsidy = MY tax money to help wealthier people afford things that I cannot.
@@hugoknight1 $20 billion in annual US subsidies make gasoline much cheaper so people will use gas; and oil companies can make even more billions - even though it puts much carbon & pollution in the atmosphere. If you’re against gov’t subsidies, then I assume you want to get rid of ALL subsidies - including the billions that Uncle Sam has been handing out to the likes of Exxon and Shell over the decades. Without those subsidies, gas would cost over $10/gal. How would THAT affect your budget? Not to mention the increased cost effect that would have on freight and manufacturing, basically increasing the cost of everything! So, let’s level the playing field, okay? Also, if you can’t afford a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range, about $31,500 after the federal tax credit, with basically no ongoing maintenance costs and “fuel” (electricity) costing 1/8 what gas costs, well then your life really IS a sad, tragic story.
@@vulpo If you’re towing things all the time for long distances, then, yes, 250 miles is too little range. But 340 miles should be enough. Plus, with the 800 volt architecture, recharging at a Tesla Supercharger will be significantly faster, and blazingly fast with the new V4’s starting to be installed. PepsiCo is very pleased with the Tesla Semi’s performance in both range variants: 300 & 500 miles. Also, I’m not sure where the 60% rule is coming from? I’ve had 2 Model S’s over the years and charged them up to 90% nightly at home. My current 2016 Model S had a range of 315 miles when new. Currently, it still tops out at 294 miles when charged to 100%. After 8 years. And I drive it between MI and FL several times a year, many times I do it in less than 24 hours. Not towing anything, but the point being range loss is minimal even charging to 90% daily at home. And the Tesla Supercharger network is fantastic. And cheaper than gas,
Have you heard any details on the solar cover for the cybertruck?
This is the conversation at TESLA HQ.
"Let's design a vehicle that looks really f'king hideous. Like it's been designed by a group of preschool kids with learning difficulties, because there are, believe it or not, stupid people out there who will buy this turd. People with no taste, no self awareness, too thick to realise why everyone 's laughing, and really no shame"
THANKS JON 🤗 FOR CLEARLY EXPLAINING THE FEATURES, For the laypeople 👍 and IMHHO ,pricing allows TESLA to manage the demands equitably and still take advantage of the tax breaks 🤷♂️
While it's very durable, it's still a hideous triangle on wheels
wonder if you could make your own range extender that's ICE powered
Ew
Could be quite practical, say a 30kW generator in the back would mean you could drive continuously without having to stop.
In addition, if you were working somewhere off-grid, could use the generator to charge the CT during the day and have your campsite/trailer powered at night (silently) from the CT.
I hope some 3rd party after-market vendor will offer this.
Even better, a fuel cell running off LNG or propane (or even gasoline) would be about twice as efficient. Would also add some heat if needed in a cold environment.
Last I looked into it there were a few companies working on residential fuel cells, and various refinements over the last twenty years have greatly reduced costs - but not sure if they are yet at the point where they could be made affordably for this use case.
here's some more details you may have missed According to a German TUV safety certification expert, the Tesla Cybertruck will require “strong modifications to the basic structure” before it can be sold in Europe 1. The Cybertruck is classified as a light-duty truck in the USA, which exempts it from many safety regulations, including for pedestrian safety. However, this is not the case in Europe, where the vehicle must comply with 50 to 60 different regulations 1. The front of the vehicle must not be stiff, and the bumper and bonnet must be able to absorb energy to protect pedestrians 1. The Cybertruck’s rolled stainless steel structure and panels are stiff and strong, which is great for resisting damage but less so for the occupants and unwitting pedestrians 1. Stefan Teller, an automotive expert at SGS-TUV Saar GmbH, outlined his concerns about the Cybertruck, stating that “nothing is deformed in the event of an impact. Instead, enormous forces act on the occupants. Airbags then no longer help”
It's not going to be for sale in Europe for the next long while.
@@hotrodandrube9119 Saw the Picture of it related to the size of a Delorean the thing is immense and before you say it is no bigger than any other big American truck, could be why we don't see them much on Irish and British roads. Bet it hampers/stretches your parking skills in your local Tesco?
@@patricaomas8750 which makes it crazy that for a while, chevy tried to sell hummers in the UK, parking skills aside.
doubling the voltage and keeping the same wattage, you lower the current to 1/4 of the amps. that is why i wish the us had a base home voltage of 240v instead of the 120v, like most other countries!
The torque specs are mind boggling! I hope it's not a typo. Tesla says the the torque specs of the Cyberbeast increased 10 times from over 1000ft-lbs.in the original 2019 trimototor truck to almost 10,300ft-lbs.of torque. If it's accurate, that's a crazy increase.
They’re using a stupid way to calculate that
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f measure torque at the motor like every other car manufacturer.
@@OrwellNailedIt cringe.
They advertise wheel toque instead of torque at the motor. Do you really think it has 15x torque over a rivian?
If you use wheel torque of a F-350 it’s like 15000 lol
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f other EVs are providing equivalent torque values.
But goobers think teslas really have 15x the torque of other RV trucks … lol
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f I think it’s embarrassing that you are quoting a truck has 10k+ of torque. We can all tell the Tesla guys who have never towed a day in their life when they quote numbers like that.
A semi truck can tow 80,000 pound but has 1/5 the toque of a truck that can tow 11,000 pounds… you’re serious stating that? 😂😂😂😂
I don't care about the price
It's always expensive initially until economics of scale and new manufacturing methods make the var cheaper
The thing I would want to see is a durability test:
Cybertruck In tough terrain driving, in the mud, while in rocket fall
How it can help average American worker increase productivity
The one thing I didn’t miss was the $100K tri motor sales price and the disappointing 340 mile range that was supposed to be 500 miles! Pre order canceled, going to buy my back up Tundra TRD Pro!
Good. Another person out of the waiting line.
You won't regret it. Reliable, comfortable, back glass fully retracts, recharges in one minute!
The range is only 320 miles on the tri-motor.
Hi Jon. Big fan. What is the Cleanerwatt image/symbol? The yellow and blue? Just curious. In any case, I think the price is right where it's supposed to be and the specs are fine. Only not smart people would be mad that the price isn't the same after the last 4 years of insanity. I was greatly disappointed with the event. Short, very little information... If I took off work to go to that, I'd be so pissed.
The event seemed to be short for us viewers, but it was a lot more and informative for the ones that attended it.
The price is in 2019 dollars no one is allowing for inflation to 2024 dollars. I think the price is spot on same price as a standard model X, I would buy the dual motor Cyber truck in a heartbeat over the X!
If you look at an inflation calculator, the 50K dual should have been 60K, pretty simple, the price is off about 20K
THE MAIN QUESTION DOES IT FLOAT??? ❤😊😮wow thank you 😅 🙏 I love he Cyber truck more ❤️. so please they're finally got to 48 volt make so much sense and obviously the bigger the voltage the better. it's the amps that kill you.... I could see a day when we have may have search. technology should be thousands of vaults and low amps ??? 😊😊. but that's for a truck goes. this is good could do a smaller one for the UK roads about the same size of my land rover. that's the only criticism 😮🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you
Awaiting quotes on how much early guys will pay for auto insurance.🥵
A good video to make could be one that points out all the NEW features and designs that justify more of the price increase over the inflation rate.
This video listed some of them, but not really making that point.
250 miles is way too low, even for the single motor. 300 miles should be the minimum.
Great video.😊
It would be cool if you could put the range extender inside the area that lifts up under the bed.
I like how you've trimmed and styled your beard
No differential. But it has tiny little halfshafts with delicate CV joints.
"But it has tiny little halfshafts with delicate CV joints."
Given the hauling/tow capacities of the CT, I expect the engineering of those parts will be sufficient. Or do you have some evidence of your assertion?
Nope. No evidence against it either. No one has replied with the real numbers.@@youtubemakesmedothis7280
Power-sharing with solar and home storage may enable off-grid in sunny regions. I'm going to talk to Tesla about it.
Everyone at Tesla will surely give you a standing ovation for such a great idea. But talk to Elon directly first.
I’m just looking forward to how the CT evolves and improves over the coming years as Tesla don’t rest on their laurels.
I've had a reservation for a couple of years. Based on the announced pricing I'll ask for my $100 refund. While I think that I'll eventually own one it will likely be a Version 2 and hopefully when/if the price is reduced.
I greatly disagree, price won’t affect demand (vs production). Price will be adjusted to keep demand reasonable as compared to its production as Tesla has done with its other models. Despite the FUD Tesla has done very well so far in doing this across their product line.
I have a crane/cherry picker. If they make it so once installed you can't remove it.... that's a #fail. They should've designed a double-stack battery pack under the floor like the Hummer so they could offer a single-stack version for the cheap trim levels, and a double-stack giving +500 miles on a long-range trim level.
They need to make it modular for a quick change out, like an ammo clip. Why not just plug it into the 220v Nema 1450 outlet?
I was hoping for 69k for a dual motor. While I do have reservations, I will be saving for the n3xt 2 to 3 years, and hopefully, rates go back down. I'm hoping to save 30 to 40k and trade in my car which I should get 15 to 18k this way I will only need 30k loan.
Price should go down once Tesla ramp up production.
For context, if the extender is in fact a 50 kwh pack, that is about the size of the pack in a Model 3 RWD. It will be heavy and expensive.
the range extender is a $16,000 add-on that has to be installed by trained Tesla techs.
@@frankmarini5391 And it takes up over 1/3 of your bed (which kinda defeats the purpose of a pickup truck).
@vulpo and adds weight which reduces range...it's a vicious circle..
Don’t think pricing is much of an issue. More than enough reservations to allow Tesla to sell every single vehicle they can make for years to come even at these price levels. People that want to be first will be willing to pay. It’s the same with all technology. The early adopters pay the R&D and ramp costs and the buyers a few years down the track get better pricing. Eventually CyberTruck might be the best selling truck in the world.
Post the full video on X
Price is great, allows me to safe for the Beast 🤷🏻♂️
For the few that can afford the top model do you think the Cybertruck actually would have enough room to shoe horn the extra batteries underneath the vehicle instead of a tool box feature. Charge more money if someone wants that option
"Overall so far it looks like the Cybertruck is living up to all its hype."
Well, let's see:
500+ mile range? Nope. A mere 320 for the tri-motor which is 20 less than the dual-motor gets!
$69,900? Nope. $100K!!!
How about that telescoping tailgate ramp? Nope.
What about the sail pillar storage? Nope.
And please keep in mind that these were all features still being hyped on Tesla's own website up until LAST WEEK!
[EDIT] Oops! Almost forgot:
3500 pound payload capacity? Nope. Only 2500.
14,000 pound towing capacity? Nope. Only 11,000.
But I do love the things they added that were not hyped in the original design:
- the rear-wheel steering
- the Powershare V2H charging
- the 17.44" maximum clearance
- the locking differential (nice to have if you get stuck in mud or snow)
Lets make it clear 48 V is the thing enabling the steer by wire system. You can not do that on 12V!
The accessories are way to expensive. I hope third parties come through.
I think the price will go down over the years
Up to the hype? Really? Musk promised a range of 500 miles. But now a range extender has to that the trick. If Ford would have done that everybody would critise them, but Tesla can do that.
Fsd not available on the truck.
When demand is satiated at these prices, the prices will start declining.
If you want to pay less, just wait.
If you don’t want to wait, just pay.
I hope the ditch the range extender in the bed and incorporate it into the main pack instead by the time I’m ready to order.
The range is not good enough to use it as a truck replacement. I don’t think I could tow my toy hauler more than 100 miles :/
Base model: 250 miles range, 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, bed width is a state secret.
How they are going to balance the fresh new extender with worn out traction battery? I predict more EV fires because of that. That extender image in Tesla pages us a rendering, not a picture; the final design of bed lining is not looking like that. It is FIXED. You have to go to a garage to get it installed/removed. Also: if you charge half of the batteries separately, you will end up with imbalance. You will need a switch(es) to somewhat circumvent that issue. Those (tb¹/2-tb²/2-extender) switches are new points of failure and are having some electrical loss, too.
The price is the same as when announced 4 years ago taking inflation into account. But of course the media will jump on it saying the price went up 50% for the base model...forgetting inflation, but it sells newspapers....
2:14 Raptor rocket engine == "range extender"
Adding that extra battery makes the storage area useless for contractors etc.
What payload can it legally haul? That is the first question to answer.