You know what would've made this plot SIGNIFICANTLY better? Instead of the Bog King using the potion to make a girl love him and it not working being his Anti-Love Backstory, the girl wanted to be his queen so she plans to use the potion on him, and he feels so violated that he wants all the primroses destroyed. That way he and the other fairy can bond over their betrayals and shit.
May I add to this? Let's have a backstory wherein Marianne and the Bog King met and befriended one another when they were small children. They would sneak away and play together and talk and found it all exciting because they're kids and having a secret friend is awesome! But as they grow older and circumstances and prejudice begin to take hold, they meet each other less and less, with Marianne running into the unfortunate coincidence of telling the Bog Prince (as he would be at that point) that they can't see each other anymore on the day the goblin girl tried to use the Love Potion on him. And it didn't work because at that point, he'd fallen in love with Marianne. Their romance in the latter half of the film is less about connecting from the start than it is about reconnecting, rekindling the friendship from their childhoods, realising they had fallen for each other back then and finally allowing themselves to be together.
Oh. My. God. Your rewrite is not only a VAST improvement (not to mention a hell of a lot more interesting and less offensive), but is proof that the wrong people succeed as screenwriters in Hollywood.
Laura Dietrich I even thought of the perfect pop song for that montage: Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie. It'd start off as a background track, but as Marianne walks away after saying goodbye to Bog for the last time, the song undergoes a diegetic switch and she sings the chorus: "I hope you know, I hope you know That this is nothing to do with you It's personal, myself and I We've got some straightenin' out to do And I'm gonna miss you like a child misses their blanket But I've got to get a move on with my life It's time to be a big girl now And big girls don't cry." As the song fades away, Bog chops down the first of the primroses.
Yeah, the impression I get from this film is that he either didn't like his daughters very much, or at the very least didn't think very highly of them. This is the kind of film that was made with the tagline "Target audience: idiots".
The sad thing is that after watching this review, I thought of a way to improve the plot of this movie and I think that I may have come up with something better: First just take away the subplot where Marianne almost marries Roland. She will remain a strong willed warrior fairy princess, but now it is because that is what she has always been, not because some jerk broke her heart. Roland will still be there, but as a Gaston like suitor who is trying to marry Marianne because she is the heir to the throne. Also take away those creepy “nice guy” vibes from Sunny and actually already have him and Dawn in a secret romance that they are afraid to reveal because of the prejudice both of their races have towards each other. Also now Sunny doesn’t go to Bog King’s kingdom for the love potion to get Dawn to fall for him through creepy means, in my version he does it because Roland blackmails him into getting the love potion so he can use it on Marianne by saying that he will reveal their secret romance which could ruin both of their lives and Roland won’t go their because the Bog King throws anyone in prison for trying to get a love potion and he is going to not get his hands dirty. This time, Sunny goes and gets captured by the Bog King and Dawn goes to Marianne begging her to go to the Bog King’s kingdom to rescue Sunny because she loves him, Marianne being a good sister agrees and when she gets there, gets into a fight with the Bog King and because they are too evenly matched in abilities, Marianne decides to try to reason with him which would give the story a chance to develop the romance by having her realize that in spite of his reputation, the Bog King is not a bad guy. Also I will change the reason why the Bog King is so anti love potion by instead having him try to use a love potion on someone, have a love potion be used on him and when they found a way to remove it from him, he felt so used by the person who used it on him that he decided to imprison anyone who tried to do it because he believed that anyone who used a love potion must be a vile person. Meanwhile Roland decides to actually be a little more active and convinces the King that Marianne is being held prisoner by the Bog King and gets an army, but he is still trying to get the love potion. Also the Bog King and Marianne confront Sunny about why he was getting a love potion and he tells them the truth which of course makes Marianne hate Roland even more and have her fight him when he arrives with the army. After she wins, Marianne convinces her father that Dawn should be with Sunny no matter what and he agrees to let them get married, also while at the wedding, Marianne and the Bog King admit that they are falling in love with each other and kiss. I feel like if they had made major changes a lot like the ones I presented and probably nixed the whole musics aspect, it at least could have been decent. Also I want to know why George Lucas felt like he had to make a form of media for only girls when already made one of the more iconic female characters in Princess Leia.
*Slow clap*. This is fantastic. Might I make a suggestion? Make surface level changes (setting, character names, etc.), write it down, publish it, and who knows? Maybe someday it will be adapted into an animated film so good that George Lucas will watch it and think, "Damn, I should have thought of that!"
Not really, like that happened on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Once Upon a Time, Vampire Diaries, The Daughter of Smoke and Bone book series by Laini Taylor, Cruel Beauty by Rosamund Hodge, Grisha verse by Leigh Bardugo to an extent, Beaty and the Beast (practically any version and adaptation, from Jeanne Marie LePrince de Beaumont's, to Jean Cocteau, to Christophe Gans), the whole Helen and Menelaus thing in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, even Romeo and Juliet have that element, just to name a few.
@@Heres_To_Music I'd say it's rather new for G-rated modern fairytale movies, especially since he doesn't transform into a male model towards the end like BatB does. I mean, how many other kid's fairytale movies have the premise of 'falling in love with the villain?' Not many. Usually the villain is just hideous or, if they're pretty/handsome, they're horrible, manipulative psychopaths that probably kick puppies in their free time.
It’s an interesting idea but it’s poorly done as is most of this movie. I did really like the idea of that though it was spice some things up. If anyone would be capable of doing something like this well would honestly be Hayao Miyazaki’s who strongly believes that no one is ever a complete villain as have the motivations on why they may do something. If you watch Princess Mononoke he shows a very good example of this and if you’ve seen them movie you know what I’m talking about. Not saying he’s the only one who could do it I just idk he seems like a good example of someone who could accomplish it but I’m sure anyone can if they try.
I'm gonna be honest that the whole romance between the heroine and the villain was the only thing I became interested in from this movie, but that doesn't make up that it's still shit.
William Goldman wanted to write a story for his daughters and made The Princess Bride, George Lucas wanted to make something for his daughters and made this.
I probably never would have watched The Princess Bride if my mother didn't like the movie I'm glad my mother liked it so I was able to watch it and quote some of it's lines
Winnie-the-Pooh, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan & Wendy, and The Wizard of Oz are also books that originated in stories told to children the authors knew.
thirteenfury but... Winnie the Pooh's backstory didn't end all happy. Considering how it lead to the author's son hating him. Just a little fun fact...
Disgruntled Cashier "oh man, this is a nightmare! [rick,] how could you be so irresponsible!?" "'/ME/ IRRESPONSIBLE!?' You're the one who wanted to Rufie that poor girl. All I wanted was for you to hand me a screwdriver!"
That episode also ended with their universe being completely ruined, so let this be a lesson that love potions are bad, m’kay? Actually funnily even My Little Pony thought love potions were bad news. They straight up called them “love poison.” Lucas your ass is getting kicked by technicolor ponies!
At least I like the fact that they didn´t use the typical "bad guy falls in love and with the power of love he gets handsome" Thing. I really apreciate that the Moral like "the outside doesn´t matter" wasn´t destroyed
@@QJ89 Can you please write a little bit more about this matter? I would like to know exactly why "Glee" is such a lame unsult to the Musical Genre. Tell me about it as much as you only can! If this is not too difficult for you, of course.
@@alekseyl172 Alright, challenge accepted. I expected Glee to be a self-aware parody of musical theatre, to the point that it pokes fun at the genre. While it has a air of introspection in how the "Gleeks" are treated poorly by every-one else, the pride in which they embrace their talents is a little overbearing. But more crucially, the amount of Pop songs they make their own (and often botch) is an absolute deal-breaker to a music connoisseur like myself. Rachel's take on 'Like A Prayer' is my go-to example. Glee and Jukebox musicals like 'Strange Magic' and 'Rock Of Ages' generally walk a razor's edge in this regard, only to fall short and tarnish the songs they replicate. Normies are the general public who eat this shit up because they know the songs being performed on a surface level, but very little beyond that point (because they're often whom the writers cater to). So yes, not only is it an Unsult, but the way in which they pull it off is embarrassingly Lame and gives us a bad name. At least we got Supergirl out of it!
You know, for all the crap "Beauty and the Beast" gets for being a "Stockholm Syndrome story", how in the hell has no one called out "Strange Magic" for the same thing?! Dawn is essentially drugged by her supposed "friend" Sunny, kidnapped by the Bog King, falls for the Bog King via the love potion, then, when the effects wear off... realizes she loves the friend who drugged her in the first damn place! Meanwhile, Marianne falls in love (for realsies) with the Bog King, the guy who not only has a history of using love potions on other women, but who KIDNAPPED HER SISTER!!! George Lucas, you really thought this was the right movie for your young daughters?! You are one warped little man!
Probably because _Beauty and the Beast_ is good enough that any bit of criticism stands out, while _Strange Magic_ is bad enough that the Stockholm Syndrome perspective is buried under all the other, more obvious problems with the story and characters.
And Beauty and the Beast isn’t a Stockholm Syndrome Story. I know. I saw it just this past weekend. It sounds like Strange Magic is the Stockholm Syndrome story based on the info I’m seeing here and reading based on your description!
Aw, a musical with Carrie and Debbie together would have been awesome too. And I don't mean like a Vegas Stage Show, I mean like a legit movie musical.
The way the love potion is framed in the film is troubling. No one, other than the main characters and Roland, seems to be aware that the potion is bad. When Roland outs Sunny's reason for getting the love potion, the elves and fairies seem less bothered that he just tried to drug their princess into loving him, and more that it led the Bog King to them. When it comes up again (army march scene) everyone's like "Teehee, he has a crush on Dawn." The movie's response to, "Is using the potion bad?" is "I guess? Maybe? I don't know, but it sure was funny when all those gross characters kissed!"
Alos: "It's obvious the writers know this is a morally questionable proposition because they have Roland introduce it, but Sunny still goes along with it. And while he gets to act all guilty about the fallout later on, it's pretty clear that's more about the whole thing going pearshaped than realizing it was a terrible idea to begin with." Strange Magic, meet Tangled. You two have a lot to talk about.
As bad as it is, I can actually maybe see some potential in this, with Roland Loving Marianne, Sonny Loving Dawn, Dawn loving the Bog King, and Marianne and the Bog King falling in love with each other. If they tweaked some stuff and maybe played up the Midsummer Night's Dream angle, it might have been pretty good.
The bog king should be a character who thinks love is dumb but not out of heartbreak. He sees the worst of being in love and focuses more on kid kingdom and fighting. Then, marianne comes into the picture with a similar view but the cheating stuff with the blonde pretty guy is left in . Suddenly, bog and marianne argue/agree on love in general but start to see that love can be pain but joyful. Then they fall in love and fight to save the day
To be honest, I laughed at the part where the Bog King says "At least you're not singing" and out of nowhere, Marianne starts singing, it's like she said "Oh, thanks for reminding me, ♪ I'm comin' straight on for you! ♪ "
What hurts me the most is that this movie had such a good potential! And still, no dumbass in the whole entire thing was able to see that no one would like this, i kid you not, one of the prhases this movie's merch uses the most is "my 3 year old couldn't stop dancing to it!". So good job Lucas, the movie was awful but at least you made some todlers want to dance
1:02 As a woman who likes things like Star Wars and the new Voltron reboot (or Voltron: Legendary Defender), I thought the same thing when I heard that. xP I know he probably never meant it like that, but still... And the Carrie Fisher comment made me laugh.
+Jack Becquerel Eh, probably not. We don't have a lot of context to this movie. It's very possible his daughters just don't like Star Wars. It's literally impossible for them to have not seen it by this point And it just goes to show how nhilistic and pessimistic you are to assume something as insulting as that with very little evidence other than the fact that you might like Star Wars. Not saying the movie is good though :P
And AniMat! And The Blockbuster Buster! And Bobsheaux! And Mr. Enter (let’s find a way to get him to work on an Animated Atrocities episode on that atrocity).
This actually doesn't sound like the absolute worst idea for a movie, just drop the songs (or rearrange them by way of completely original ones or make some better choices as far as placement and selection), rewrite it a bit, and do something about that animation.
+Hikari Fun fact. This is actually the first episode of Musical Hell I watched and it's because I saw it in the recommended videos page for CellSpex's review of this crap.
I hope we can all agree the bog king is the only decent character (until he falls vitcim to george). Because before the lovey dovey shit, he was a badass that had some funny lines.
I know this movie is painfully stupid, but just for the visual part (which is AMAZING, seriously the concept artists and animators did just perfect) and the beauty and the beast type of couple which is my type of shit, i love it so damn much i've watched it over 10 times.
This movie makes me sad, because I feel like conceptually it started much differently and through rewrites and transitions became disjointed. I would love for the concept of a West Side Story style music with the two warring families utilizing different genres of music in the class of this film it would be rock vs more Disneyesque show tunes with them blending the two genres as the lands reconcile. I honestly think that that is what this movie initially started as till someone was just like "let's throw in some love potions and call it a day"
Neat idea, which I'm so stealing. Ooh, how about it turns out there's a third faction led by the villain, who's been manipulating both sides by playing to their own egos and insecurities so he can rule both, and unlike the two, he has no songs whatsoever.
There was an early treatment where the young Boggie and Fairy King were friends but BK was somehow implicated in the death of Fairy queen and MaryAnne grows up to rectify the situation. -ex Lucas story artist.
Am I the only one who's sick of the "using cover songs in cheap kid-aimed non-jukebox musical movies" idea? For one thing, it's lazy af, and it ruins them for parents/babysitters/older people who have to suffer through this shit). *facepalm*
Eek. There's just something troubling about a movie aimed at children with a plot point featuring a "love potion" that incapacitates women into becoming amorous in a post-Cosby world.
Not to mention that you can literally make the least possible effort and still win the hot popular girl despite your being a short, uninteresting gnome of a boy.
I see no problem is those two characters ending-up together based on looks alone. Is love supposed to be build on perceived standards of beauty? What is problematic, morally speaking, is how everyone in this movie, including Sunny, thinks of love potion as a cute thing. Another problem, screenwriting-wise, is that the love from her side comes out of nowhere and seems lazily written.
@@AlirioAguero2 I have a problem with characters ending up together in what is framed as a good relationship if that relationship is based on looks alone, regardless of if they're both conventionally attractive or not. But yeah...love potions are a lot worse than basically _any_ author gives them credit for.
@Laura Birdwell Love potions are basically magic roofies. And Shrek 2 was a good example of love potions done right. The maker is the villain who made a business of trying to sell "Happily Ever After" to people.
I am surprised that Alan Cumming wasn't counted as a saving grace. He is the only reason I bought the soundtrack of this movie. The little song 'Evil', btw was DELETED and cut up from the film which you can only hear on the soundtrack or delete scene/outtake special feature. So can that be another sin added to this film?
I have a soft spot for the Bog King. Not only is his voice actor very talented, but as a cynical grumpy bastard myself, I have a liking for other cynical grumpy bastards. If only he were in a better movie.
PLOT TWIST: Marianne was already a strong-willed lady; but that Prince dude used a love potion on Marianne to secure his path to the throne. Hence the sappy, cutesy, annoying attitude she had at the beginning of the movie.
Yes Diva. Rip this piece of trash. Have the nerve to call this the "Star Wars" for girls. And I am personally offended that THIS is considered a musical, which is extremely insulting. The film has more trash songs than actual dialogue, which makes it all worse. Glad this flopped.
I watched the movie a few days ago after watching a review about it. I was in the mood of a trash feast, something so bad it's funny for all the wrong reasons and was... partly pleased, partly disappointed? I expected something more trashy after hearing this is one of the worst animated movies of all time and there are many shitty things going on (I agree with most of this review) but there's worse out there. There are even a few aspects I really like and enjoyed. I think, and this is nothing but an opinion, what makes everyone so angry at this movie is the fact that with a few tweaks, it could have been decent. Not a classic, but less offending. 1. As mentioned in this video, add a few lines that hint at Dawn liking the token poc character but dismissing it because she was brainwashed with talk about social standing 2. Away with this cringy last song, let it end for Bog and Marianne like it did for Anna and Kristof, on a "We like each other, probably more than just like, and i totally want to see you again!"-note instead of this stupid "oooh love of my liiiife"-kitsch fest (Bog's mom's scene with the "date" setting would have been kinda funny, the characters are already like "seriously? We've just met and exchanged two calm sentences after fighting, this if far out of place!". But it loses any comedic potential because in the end, what mom wants is exactly what happens. A one true love romance even classic Disney princesses would call rushed). Give them a few lines that mean something, cut out that horrible last song and show instead that maybe, Dad Fairy realises that daughters are interesting people, too, and not just good looking decoration who need a good man to be complete, and let the different folks and kingdoms make peace (instead of King Lucas, I mean, King Selfinsert, I mean, the wise and goodhearted Fairy King cry over his beautiful daughters' choices) 3. Consistent design choices. The fairies don't look bad but the butterfly wings seem to come from a cheap Barbie production. The goblins aren't pretty but there's love for detail, but Bog's mom and Sunny look like cheap troll dolls. 4. Lucas should just have kept his mouth shut. As said, with a few simple tweaks, this wouldn't have been a great movie, but a harmless enough guilty pleasure. But his "Girls don't like Star Wars, I'll make a movie perfectly tailored for what girls want to see in a movie!" turns the movie into an insult to every girl's tastes and intelligence. If he had just said:"I wanted to change the genre from SciFi fantasy to more classic, fairytale fantasy" the initial reaction would probably more like, okay, that's fair, it was an attempt, he tried to get out of his comfort zone. He didn't create a masterpiece but hey, it's good enough for a Sunday afternoon after waking up with a hangover.
So he makes a movie for his daughters... where he puts a character that would happily brainwash a girl to fall in love with him as a romantic good guy. That both explains soooo much and makes me terrified for the Lucas girls. I have to say that this Taming Of The Shrew terrible adaptation of sorts pales next to the Moonlighting episode and 10 Things I Hate About You. As for the next case: OH GOD. The latest one had crappy CGI (like the one time they didn't notice they had made a woman with four arms... not kidding), horrible Glee-ripoff singing and downright disturbing character design, and since each movie so far has been worse than the previous one, this will be made by the denizens of your own domicile, Diva! (Btw, is there a movie industry in Hell?)
To be honest this film may have been better if Disney never bought Lucasfilms. Originally this movie would have been much darker with fewer (if any) pop songs. They were considering “Bring Me to Life” by Evanescence at one point for example. Also, if Disney never took it over then it is likely that the whole beginning with the Roland cheating and the whole heartbreak transformation wouldn't have been in the movie, rather picking up at where Marianne is already heartbroken. Also, she may have been given an earlier interaction with the Bog King, and with the beginning sequence gone they could have had more time to develop a romance. Also, Disney wanted to put a emphasis on the whole Sunny and Dawn thing cause they wanted to make a TV show spinoff with the two, actually originally Lucas wanted Dawn to remain single in the end to show it was ok to be on your own, which would have likely gotten rid of some of the creepy Sunny.... Idk, just saying, Disney did have a lot of influence in this and I think that is why it came out poorly
Tbh the idea of singing pixies/fairies or whatever is pretty shitty to begin with and Lucas doesn't have a good track record on his own. So I'm pretty sure it still would've been shit.
Dude, Metallica makes “Bring Me to Life” look like the Sesame Street theme song. Let's not put "Bring Me to Life" as anywhere near close to an example of a dark song
Kae McSpadden We’re sure Doug Walker has the same idea, only even more over-exaggerated because if he reviewed Strange Magic, he’d end up glaring at and blindly criticizing the movie’s hatebase!!!! So fuck Channel Awesome!!!!
No one ever accused George Lucas of being a woke, or even particularly intelligent, man. This is the same guy who called the people signing his checks White Slavers.
"George Lucas made this movie for his daughters." At the time of this movie's release Lucas's daughters were 34, 27, and 2 years old respectively. I highly doubt his two year old would understand any of it and I really hope he didn't think his grown ass daughters would be interested in this movie.
When he started playing with this concept, his daughters were 19 and 12. Still in the realm of "I know what little girls want" delusional parental thinking.
About Sin number 5... most monarchs are like that. The King in the movie does have a point on pushing marriage. If his direct hiers don't bequeath a child to continue the dynasty, a civil war could break out for the position for the throne. The same could be said for the other side, though it could also be that the mother doesn't want her son to declare war in order to keep their kingdom stable. In a competent movie, this would be stated.
The Bog King's backstory made no sense. I think he should have been the drugged because that would make his hatred to the Sugar Plum Fairy and her potions make sense. Think about it: A woman wanting the Bog King would use it to try to seduce him, he finds out and feels violated, so he bans the love potion ingredient and jails the Fairy. That would make sense. But no.
Bog almost saved this movie for me. Almost.... He wasn't on enough scenes (he did all the little humor that this movie manages to have) and while the twist of the heroine getting with the villain was rather interesting in concept, it was horribly executed...
This was the last movie i ever worked on in my time in the Animation Industry. A bittersweet finale it was. On the one hand a dream realized to get to work alongside the great George Lucas AND being reunited with a former crew to get the band back together in a beautiful part of the country and make more money than I'd ever made before. On the other, learning George was a terrible director, an editor with no sense of direction, and a penchant for burning money with nothing to show for it. Storytime: Picture it. Los Angeles. 2010. I've just completed what I thought was the worst movie of my career (Alpha&Omega) when i get an email from a former director asking who wants to move to SF to work at Lucasfilm? Not being a schmuck, I joined up blissfully unaware of the consequences to come. FF 29 months, we were out the door after rebuilding this problem-child 4x and still not able to read George's mind who doesn't believe in storyboards or linear plots. The movie was taken from LAL and given to ILM to complete. Big Rock studio was shut down. Directors were fired and replaced w Gary Rystrom who had angrily waved his Sound Design Oscar in everyone's face to get the job. Careful what you wish for. Even while building the story we had no idea who was the protagonist was supposed to be. And there were no females on the story crew so the nice-guy love potion debacle was summarily glossed over as a fairy tale trope. We all knew it was bad optics but we got caught up in trying to salvage the characters rather than the overall plot. There was no stopping the needle drops. Moulin Rouge was the template but it never felt right. This final form is different than the last place we left it. Grizelda was a giant troll paired with a male that was another barrier along Sunny's route to the castle. There was a subplot of Dawn winning over the goblins and going all Snow White on the group and cleaning the castle. The ending with the minion goblin being female came out of nowhere. While we kept mining for gold, there was an entire animation studio in Singapore that was waiting for us to send them stuff to work on. FOR 2 YEARS. It was around summer 2012 we got news about the sale. George got a $4billion check and we hung on for another 5 months watching the dream collapse. There was so much great about the experience. The people, the places were memory palaces. We held weekly parties at our condo, made an earnest Halloween short film, hiked the mountains of Marin county, explored SF, Lucasfilm Christmas parties. Just sorry the job left such a bad taste. Which is not to say i had a bad time. I was the luckiest schmuck ever. No one wants to make a bad movie. I was working with some of the most talented artists on the planet. In the end it was a bad story. And no one could save it.
Thank you for sharing! I'm always fascinated by the stories behind bad movies--as you say, nobody starts out with the intention of making one, but somehow they get to the point where they can't be salvaged.
Thank you. That was nice of you. I'm not really doing much for my birthday this year due to tight budget, but I am excited for the Gallifrey One Doctor Who Convention. That's where the real party is.
I know what can be done! We force George Lucas to watch the Star Wars holiday special with Jar Jar Binks sitting next to him the whole time! No that'd be too cruel, for criminals let alone George Lucas.
MeMyself AndSomePie You know he produced the Clone Wars (at least up until cancellation of it) right? And your making Rebels out as if it’s the worst thing to happen in Star Wars History.
Thanks for doing this one! I'll admit for a very strange period of time I liked this movie. I was just so happy to have a fairy movie that had SOMETHING of a darker side that I was a bit (very) blind to it's now obvious flaws. I think in another universe, this could have had potential. But sadly this is not that universe, Lucas studios isn't making magic anymore, and we will never get a decent dark fairy movie. :( Missed you Diva! So glad to see one of your videos again!!
Labyrinth??!! Yes, I LOVE that movie!! I love it so much I actually try to keep up with some of the fandom surrounding it. Stuff like fan art, comics, and other various fan mediums. I'd say it definitely counts as a dark fae movie. In fact I think it's the movie that leads to a lot (if not a greater majority) of interest in fae mythos. But a dark fairy movie is something I have only seen mere glimpses of. Stories, yes. Art, yes. But a movie would really be a great addition to the somewhat neglected aspect of true (read: darker than Disney's) fairy media.
The film Splash was actually the first film released under the Touchstone Pictures label as a means of advertising more mature films, and it was a critical and commercial success
I nearly died laughing at the bit at the beginning of how Carrie Fisher's ghost is giving George the finger for this monstrosity. I think I laughed so hard cause I can seriously imagine that happening, and she probably was flipping him off from beyond the grave. I couldn't stop thinking about that throughout the duration of the video. So thank you for that, Diva!
I seriously feel like Lucas insisted on this movie and insisted on it being this plot and these characters and these songs and at some point disney was like "Okay, this is going to be a touchstone one then."
The funniest part is that he's like "I just want to make a good film for my daughters" when A. the company he now kind of works for has already made multiple movies that little girls can enjoy that are so much better then this and B. does he not realize how many people in the Star Wars fandom are girls?
@@benjaminwambeke9458 his daughters have the ability to dislike star wars please stop conflating all woman with his daughters it is unhealthly and a stupid mind set where in all people are boiled down to there genders statistics chart edit: he paid and produced it not directed so many of the finer details can very easily be asssumed to be other peoples faults if you have actual evidence that it's his fault please show it otherwise please do not assume the worst of a persons character because it's convenient
It would have been much better if the bog king was a twist "non-villain" that felt remorse for love potioning his best friend as he lost her as a friend and wanted to prevent sunny from doing the same, He follows sunny around trying to thwart him then when sunny gets away with the potion he and Marianne team up to stop sunny. ultimately but they do not have to stop him because sunny cannot actually go through with using the love potion.
My friends and I watched this drunk, and it was the only way we could get through it. There were points of genuine hysterics at this movie. It's a shame though, because there are glimmers of perhaps some good morals and lessons to be taught here - if, for example, Sunny had been successful at some point with Dawn falling for him due to the Love Potion, that could have paved the way for interesting character exploration. He could have realised that (given the effects of the potion) her love wasn't genuine, and that it felt shallow; that it could never take the place of genuine affection. He could have come to terms with the fact that you can't force someone to truly love you, and when the spell his broken he could have profusely apologised and realised that Dawn's friendship is enough for him, because he genuinely cares for her. Heck, they could have even hinted that his transformation of character, his no longer actively looking for rewards but instead just enjoying her friendship (and being a genuinely good person for the sake of being a good person), could have sown the seeds for genuine affection from Dawn. AND THAT'S JUST ONE WASTED FACET OF THE FILM.
Oh not to mention another thing with the love potion. If the person never met their 'true love' before they were hit with the potion wouldn't that mean the spell could never be broken because they are too hypnotised to be interested in meeting and interacting with anyone new?
I like that the bog king's the one singing about being abused and mistreated when it was Marianne who got cheated on right before her wedding. Not that being rejected isn't painful, but still
Here's a suggestion: for the problematic way every male character treats magical roofie potion, condemn George Lucas to question for the rest of his life if his daughters were actually successfully dosed with the potion whenever they bring someone home / move in with a person / get married. Maybe that would illustrate the inherent moral problem of a love potion to him.
Musical Hell As totally legitimate Musical M.D., I prescribe an afternoon of watching a Reefer Madness double feature... the accompaniment of actual weed isn't necessary, but recommended
Honestly, this film is a guilty pleasure. I love the song covers (even though there are way too many) I'm a sucker for the character designs and the art style in general. Not to mention the Hero falling for the "villain" (Bog isn't really a villain but whatever) and that is how the villain is "redeemed" is pretty interesting. Not to mention Marian a princess, falls in love with a king, not a prince. That in itself is interesting.
Ouch! But I have been waiting for Musical Hell to touch this one some day, even though I do actually like it a lot. It's a favorite at a regular Movie Night I used to frequent in part because it opens up as SUCH a bewildering train wreck, and first timers always spend the first twenty minutes groaning and complaining, start warming up around Love Is Strange, and then by the time Strange Magic kicks in they're having a ball. I swear, it's like it got handed off to different people after twenty minute mark and a lot of the initial problems with the writing, pacing, use of music, chemistry, appeal, etc. suddenly got a lot better. I consider it an under appreciated movie, but it's still not a "great" movie, or a particularly smart movie, yeah, and that Nice Guy thing is just total garbage. Seriously. Also, the original intent of that Movie Night was to watch bad movies, so our perspective may have become a little warped by the time we got to Strange Magic.
The whole SunnyxBlondePrincess romance is even worse consider8ng the fact the spell broke after she thought her “lover” was dead. So this is like a nice guy trying to romance his widow crush at the husband’s funeral. That is all kinds of fucked up.
0:30 two films: American Tail and Labyrinth. Bluth may have been the director, Don Bluth may have been director, and Steven Spielberg takes a lot of credit for producing, but Lucas was also a producer on that film, same as Labyrinth. So he's technically worked on musicals before, and both of those films are perfectly fine. Having said that, I agree with your points.
I have to admit, I actually enjoyed watching Strange Magic, especially the relationship between Marianne and the Bog King. It was until after watching some reviews that I began to see the movie's flaws. Now I absolutely love the Bog King's rendition of Trouble and the "Strange Magic" song, but yeah, I do have my problems with this movie. 1. As much as I love musicals, I feel like Strange Magic should of had original songs instead of a pop culture playlist. I mean, seriously! It's a tale about the world of fairies and mystical creatures (inspired by Shakespeare btw), I'm pretty sure a whimsically orchestrated soundtrack would not hurt! 2. The fact that Marianne became a edgy warrior fairy and suddenly hates romance all because of one guy feels rather extreme. Now, I'm sure there have been people whose mindset was changed completely after a breakup or finding out that their partner wasn't as faithful as they thought. I guess, as a defense for Marianne, she probably was always a cheerful person until Roland cheated, and maybe that was her first time experiencing a rough heartbreak. But if you're going to have a warrior fairy princess as a main character, keep her that way all throughout the story! 3. The Sugar Plum Fairy.... just.... no.... When I first saw her for the first time, I expected her to be this wise, graceful, and powerful character that plays a crucial role in the story. Instead, I got an unbearable "comic relief" or something... Why is there a Sugar Plum Fairy in this world, by the way? Isn't she a Nutcracker character and shouldn't she be like the one elderly fairy from Fern-Gully? 4. Marianne's father. What is it with some movies that the parents of main characters are absolutely terrible parents? I know bad parents (and not just the abusive ones) exist in real life, but REALLY?! Come on, have the father be a understanding and caring being! Have him comfort Marianne when she's going through a heartbreak, have him teach Dawn to be patient about finding true love, have him fact-check Roland and make sure he's not lying, have him do something instead of being an overprotective and oblivious parent!
Sunny killed this movie for me. He was willing to poison a girl to fall for him and yet he wins out in the end? WTF! I would have him banished if I was Dawn. His stupidity could have gotten people killed. I don't care how nice he was.Actually scratch that he was only nice to fit his agenda with getting into Dawns pants. Screw him.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Lucas' girls are grown and have a talk with their father about Sunny who drugged his "friend" being the good/nice guy that Dawn falls in love with.
1:25 To be fair, “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” DESERVED the “Touchstone Pictures” label given its sexual innuendoes and mature themes. Had it been released under the “Disney” name, the film would have gotten a lot of complaints from parents for being too sexual and adult. Besides, if “The Black Cauldron” has taught us anything, it’s that slapping the PG rating on a DISNEY animated film leads to box office failure. Interestingly enough, it was Roy E. Disney (vice-chairman and nephew of Walt Disney) who suggested to then-CEO Michael Eisner after a preview screening that the film be released under the “Touchstone Pictures” banner instead because he felt that the line, “Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?”, was, in his words, *”too risqué for the Disney label”.* Source: “Disney War” by James B. Stewart
"One day, Lucifer willing, I will see Alan Cumming in a decent movie musical... one day!" Where have you landed on Cumming and Chenoweth in _Schmigadoon!..._ "Wish Granted" or "Still Waiting?"
George Lucas should have to watch people watching the star wars holiday special for all eternity. Actually, wait! That movie has like 5 songs in it! Maybe I'll see it on here one day...
I watched this movie out of boredom one night because I was curious and I have never been so perplexed by a musical in my life, the animation is so good, they could have written an original score for the film and this could have been so good, but it was just NOT good at all.
How Dawn and Sunny's arc should have resolved: ...Ya know, even though I was embarrassed to admit it, I _was_ interested in you - until you tried to drug me. It has the bare bones of a decent plot, but there's no meat on them and they're not put together correctly.
Okay, Diva, I am back again to beg you to do one of two movies (I already love your reviews): have you seen the "Strange Magic" film that is set in England in the mid seventies? It stars Minnie Driver as a high school teacher (she doesn't "sing" in this one) who makes The Tempest into a musical for her students who then put it on, singing glam rock era music (Bowie, Sweet, T. Rex, ELO, etc). I'd LOVE to hear your review. And of course I am stil begging you to do DeLovely!! PLEASE!
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
You know what would've made this plot SIGNIFICANTLY better? Instead of the Bog King using the potion to make a girl love him and it not working being his Anti-Love Backstory, the girl wanted to be his queen so she plans to use the potion on him, and he feels so violated that he wants all the primroses destroyed. That way he and the other fairy can bond over their betrayals and shit.
As someone who loves Strange Magic, despite all the bad songs, I agree.
May I add to this?
Let's have a backstory wherein Marianne and the Bog King met and befriended one another when they were small children. They would sneak away and play together and talk and found it all exciting because they're kids and having a secret friend is awesome! But as they grow older and circumstances and prejudice begin to take hold, they meet each other less and less, with Marianne running into the unfortunate coincidence of telling the Bog Prince (as he would be at that point) that they can't see each other anymore on the day the goblin girl tried to use the Love Potion on him. And it didn't work because at that point, he'd fallen in love with Marianne.
Their romance in the latter half of the film is less about connecting from the start than it is about reconnecting, rekindling the friendship from their childhoods, realising they had fallen for each other back then and finally allowing themselves to be together.
Oh. My. God. Your rewrite is not only a VAST improvement (not to mention a hell of a lot more interesting and less offensive), but is proof that the wrong people succeed as screenwriters in Hollywood.
Laura Dietrich I even thought of the perfect pop song for that montage: Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie. It'd start off as a background track, but as Marianne walks away after saying goodbye to Bog for the last time, the song undergoes a diegetic switch and she sings the chorus:
"I hope you know, I hope you know
That this is nothing to do with you
It's personal, myself and I
We've got some straightenin' out to do
And I'm gonna miss you like a child misses their blanket
But I've got to get a move on with my life
It's time to be a big girl now
And big girls don't cry."
As the song fades away, Bog chops down the first of the primroses.
Either way sounds dumb.
So Lucas made this to his movie for his daughters and it has a character in it say: "I wish I had boys"
Rude xD
Yeah, the impression I get from this film is that he either didn't like his daughters very much, or at the very least didn't think very highly of them. This is the kind of film that was made with the tagline "Target audience: idiots".
Yeah, in the movie everything is so insulting, he must think so little of his daughters.
I will say that "Can't Help Myself" was the only actually GOOD use of music in this movie.
Lucas DOES have a son. The King is just a badly written character.
To make matthers worse, the character that says "I wish I had boys" looks exactly like George Lucas
The sad thing is that after watching this review, I thought of a way to improve the plot of this movie and I think that I may have come up with something better:
First just take away the subplot where Marianne almost marries Roland. She will remain a strong willed warrior fairy princess, but now it is because that is what she has always been, not because some jerk broke her heart. Roland will still be there, but as a Gaston like suitor who is trying to marry Marianne because she is the heir to the throne. Also take away those creepy “nice guy” vibes from Sunny and actually already have him and Dawn in a secret romance that they are afraid to reveal because of the prejudice both of their races have towards each other. Also now Sunny doesn’t go to Bog King’s kingdom for the love potion to get Dawn to fall for him through creepy means, in my version he does it because Roland blackmails him into getting the love potion so he can use it on Marianne by saying that he will reveal their secret romance which could ruin both of their lives and Roland won’t go their because the Bog King throws anyone in prison for trying to get a love potion and he is going to not get his hands dirty. This time, Sunny goes and gets captured by the Bog King and Dawn goes to Marianne begging her to go to the Bog King’s kingdom to rescue Sunny because she loves him, Marianne being a good sister agrees and when she gets there, gets into a fight with the Bog King and because they are too evenly matched in abilities, Marianne decides to try to reason with him which would give the story a chance to develop the romance by having her realize that in spite of his reputation, the Bog King is not a bad guy. Also I will change the reason why the Bog King is so anti love potion by instead having him try to use a love potion on someone, have a love potion be used on him and when they found a way to remove it from him, he felt so used by the person who used it on him that he decided to imprison anyone who tried to do it because he believed that anyone who used a love potion must be a vile person. Meanwhile Roland decides to actually be a little more active and convinces the King that Marianne is being held prisoner by the Bog King and gets an army, but he is still trying to get the love potion. Also the Bog King and Marianne confront Sunny about why he was getting a love potion and he tells them the truth which of course makes Marianne hate Roland even more and have her fight him when he arrives with the army. After she wins, Marianne convinces her father that Dawn should be with Sunny no matter what and he agrees to let them get married, also while at the wedding, Marianne and the Bog King admit that they are falling in love with each other and kiss.
I feel like if they had made major changes a lot like the ones I presented and probably nixed the whole musics aspect, it at least could have been decent. Also I want to know why George Lucas felt like he had to make a form of media for only girls when already made one of the more iconic female characters in Princess Leia.
omg yess
*Slow clap*. This is fantastic. Might I make a suggestion? Make surface level changes (setting, character names, etc.), write it down, publish it, and who knows? Maybe someday it will be adapted into an animated film so good that George Lucas will watch it and think, "Damn, I should have thought of that!"
Also cut out most if not all of those damn pop songs...
Yeah... that too. :)
Morgan Young dude, make this shit real
never watched the film but i like the idea of the protagonist and antagonist developing a relationship. that would be something new
Not really, like that happened on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Once Upon a Time, Vampire Diaries, The Daughter of Smoke and Bone book series by Laini Taylor, Cruel Beauty by Rosamund Hodge, Grisha verse by Leigh Bardugo to an extent, Beaty and the Beast (practically any version and adaptation, from Jeanne Marie LePrince de Beaumont's, to Jean Cocteau, to Christophe Gans), the whole Helen and Menelaus thing in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, even Romeo and Juliet have that element, just to name a few.
@@Heres_To_Music I'd say it's rather new for G-rated modern fairytale movies, especially since he doesn't transform into a male model towards the end like BatB does. I mean, how many other kid's fairytale movies have the premise of 'falling in love with the villain?' Not many. Usually the villain is just hideous or, if they're pretty/handsome, they're horrible, manipulative psychopaths that probably kick puppies in their free time.
@@lemon-mint2700 Can't help but think it would have a very different outcome if the girl was the hideous one, however.
It’s an interesting idea but it’s poorly done as is most of this movie. I did really like the idea of that though it was spice some things up. If anyone would be capable of doing something like this well would honestly be Hayao Miyazaki’s who strongly believes that no one is ever a complete villain as have the motivations on why they may do something. If you watch Princess Mononoke he shows a very good example of this and if you’ve seen them movie you know what I’m talking about. Not saying he’s the only one who could do it I just idk he seems like a good example of someone who could accomplish it but I’m sure anyone can if they try.
Um, are you aware of the one true ship, Drarry?
I'm gonna be honest that the whole romance between the heroine and the villain was the only thing I became interested in from this movie, but that doesn't make up that it's still shit.
And the chemistry was so empty and rushed. Made me cringe
William Goldman wanted to write a story for his daughters and made The Princess Bride, George Lucas wanted to make something for his daughters and made this.
I probably never would have watched The Princess Bride if my mother didn't like the movie
I'm glad my mother liked it so I was able to watch it and quote some of it's lines
Dont people know its a mistake to base films on there Kids thats what happened with shark boy and lava girl
You know that's how we got The Hobbit right? He wrote it as a bedtime story for his son.
Winnie-the-Pooh, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan & Wendy, and The Wizard of Oz are also books that originated in stories told to children the authors knew.
thirteenfury but... Winnie the Pooh's backstory didn't end all happy. Considering how it lead to the author's son hating him. Just a little fun fact...
I love how when Rick and Morty had a love potion episode, Rick flat out calls it a date rape drug
Disgruntled Cashier "oh man, this is a nightmare! [rick,] how could you be so irresponsible!?"
"'/ME/ IRRESPONSIBLE!?' You're the one who wanted to Rufie that poor girl. All I wanted was for you to hand me a screwdriver!"
I'll give morty this: he's a teenager and they do stupid shit all the time.
@@wastelandlegocheem YES BUT NOT DATE RAPE
That episode also ended with their universe being completely ruined, so let this be a lesson that love potions are bad, m’kay?
Actually funnily even My Little Pony thought love potions were bad news. They straight up called them “love poison.” Lucas your ass is getting kicked by technicolor ponies!
As a teen I can tell you I try VERY hard not to be like the rest of the morons in my school
12:37
I'm sorry but this part never fails to make me laugh. The Bog King's delivery and timing is _perfect._
😂😂😂😂
Yeah
Alan Cumming is the saving grace in everything he’s in
_"...What?"_
At least I like the fact that they didn´t use the typical "bad guy falls in love and with the power of love he gets handsome" Thing. I really apreciate that the Moral like "the outside doesn´t matter" wasn´t destroyed
The character designs and animation does look nice, but then Lucas thought "Hey, kids think Glee is hip and cool."
'Normie' kids thought 'Glee' was cool; Smart / Theatre kids (like I would have been), thought it just a lame insult to the Musical genre.
@@QJ89
Can you please write a little bit more about this matter? I would like to know exactly why "Glee" is such a lame unsult to the Musical Genre. Tell me about it as much as you only can! If this is not too difficult for you, of course.
@@alekseyl172 Alright, challenge accepted.
I expected Glee to be a self-aware parody of musical theatre, to the point that it pokes fun at the genre. While it has a air of introspection in how the "Gleeks" are treated poorly by every-one else, the pride in which they embrace their talents is a little overbearing.
But more crucially, the amount of Pop songs they make their own (and often botch) is an absolute deal-breaker to a music connoisseur like myself. Rachel's take on 'Like A Prayer' is my go-to example.
Glee and Jukebox musicals like 'Strange Magic' and 'Rock Of Ages' generally walk a razor's edge in this regard, only to fall short and tarnish the songs they replicate. Normies are the general public who eat this shit up because they know the songs being performed on a surface level, but very little beyond that point (because they're often whom the writers cater to).
So yes, not only is it an Unsult, but the way in which they pull it off is embarrassingly Lame and gives us a bad name.
At least we got Supergirl out of it!
@@QJ89 2 years later, and hardly nobody talks about Glee anymore (aside from the fact that it aged like milk).
You know, for all the crap "Beauty and the Beast" gets for being a "Stockholm Syndrome story", how in the hell has no one called out "Strange Magic" for the same thing?! Dawn is essentially drugged by her supposed "friend" Sunny, kidnapped by the Bog King, falls for the Bog King via the love potion, then, when the effects wear off... realizes she loves the friend who drugged her in the first damn place! Meanwhile, Marianne falls in love (for realsies) with the Bog King, the guy who not only has a history of using love potions on other women, but who KIDNAPPED HER SISTER!!! George Lucas, you really thought this was the right movie for your young daughters?! You are one warped little man!
elizabetheowynbelle “one warped little man” that killed me
elizabetheowynbelle here why...
No one saw it
Probably because _Beauty and the Beast_ is good enough that any bit of criticism stands out, while _Strange Magic_ is bad enough that the Stockholm Syndrome perspective is buried under all the other, more obvious problems with the story and characters.
And Beauty and the Beast isn’t a Stockholm Syndrome Story. I know. I saw it just this past weekend. It sounds like Strange Magic is the Stockholm Syndrome story based on the info I’m seeing here and reading based on your description!
Amen.
Carrie Fisher is up in Heaven, giving George Lucas two middle fingers for this shit.
Yeah that was a good one!
Ariella Kahan-Harth I always did want to see her in a musical.
Yes may Carrie and her mother Debbie rest in peace!
Aw, a musical with Carrie and Debbie together would have been awesome too. And I don't mean like a Vegas Stage Show, I mean like a legit movie musical.
I'm sure she haunted the Star Wars set
Shame it turned out the way it did. I kinda like the designs.
Even the creepy bobble head elves
Dunes8 I do to :3
And this 17:52?
The way the love potion is framed in the film is troubling. No one, other than the main characters and Roland, seems to be aware that the potion is bad. When Roland outs Sunny's reason for getting the love potion, the elves and fairies seem less bothered that he just tried to drug their princess into loving him, and more that it led the Bog King to them. When it comes up again (army march scene) everyone's like "Teehee, he has a crush on Dawn."
The movie's response to, "Is using the potion bad?" is "I guess? Maybe? I don't know, but it sure was funny when all those gross characters kissed!"
Alos:
"It's obvious the writers know this is a morally questionable proposition because they have Roland introduce it, but Sunny still goes along with it. And while he gets to act all guilty about the fallout later on, it's pretty clear that's more about the whole thing going pearshaped than
realizing it was a terrible idea to begin with."
Strange Magic, meet Tangled. You two have a lot to talk about.
As bad as it is, I can actually maybe see some potential in this, with Roland Loving Marianne, Sonny Loving Dawn, Dawn loving the Bog King, and Marianne and the Bog King falling in love with each other. If they tweaked some stuff and maybe played up the Midsummer Night's Dream angle, it might have been pretty good.
The bog king should be a character who thinks love is dumb but not out of heartbreak. He sees the worst of being in love and focuses more on kid kingdom and fighting. Then, marianne comes into the picture with a similar view but the cheating stuff with the blonde pretty guy is left in . Suddenly, bog and marianne argue/agree on love in general but start to see that love can be pain but joyful. Then they fall in love and fight to save the day
The only Roland I'm a fan of is Roland Deschain. The Dark Tower is better than this noise.
To be honest, I laughed at the part where the Bog King says "At least you're not singing" and out of nowhere, Marianne starts singing, it's like she said "Oh, thanks for reminding me, ♪ I'm comin' straight on for you! ♪ "
Honestly Bog King’s annoyance for Marianne singing was kinda funny…at least the funniest thing in the movie which isn’t much.
What hurts me the most is that this movie had such a good potential! And still, no dumbass in the whole entire thing was able to see that no one would like this, i kid you not, one of the prhases this movie's merch uses the most is "my 3 year old couldn't stop dancing to it!". So good job Lucas, the movie was awful but at least you made some todlers want to dance
1:02 As a woman who likes things like Star Wars and the new Voltron reboot (or Voltron: Legendary Defender), I thought the same thing when I heard that. xP I know he probably never meant it like that, but still... And the Carrie Fisher comment made me laugh.
I couldn't bring up Star Wars without raising a glass to Space Mama.
Amen to that.
RIP Awesome Space Mama Queen
Carissa Carlson R.I.P Space Queen Mama Carrie Fisher
She died as she lived being a fabulous role model
Oh, believe me, that's absolutely what he meant.
+Jack Becquerel Eh, probably not. We don't have a lot of context to this movie. It's very possible his daughters just don't like Star Wars. It's literally impossible for them to have not seen it by this point And it just goes to show how nhilistic and pessimistic you are to assume something as insulting as that with very little evidence other than the fact that you might like Star Wars. Not saying the movie is good though :P
You and Cellspex would get along so well
And AniMat! And The Blockbuster Buster! And Bobsheaux! And Mr. Enter (let’s find a way to get him to work on an Animated Atrocities episode on that atrocity).
This actually doesn't sound like the absolute worst idea for a movie, just drop the songs (or rearrange them by way of completely original ones or make some better choices as far as placement and selection), rewrite it a bit, and do something about that animation.
My best friend LOVES this musical. She made me watch it at 3 am and I thought I was having a fever dream.
i discovered this with my friend like two years ago because it was free to watch and MY GOD we didn't know what we signed up for
Given that this is loosely based on A Midsummer Night’s Dream, it may not be surprising.
[CellSpex Intensifies]
Should've use sock puppets yo
*where are the sock puppets*
Marianne: I'm so happy to finally get married! Roland: Yo, random skank, let's make out! Marianne: OH NO!
+Hikari Fun fact. This is actually the first episode of Musical Hell I watched and it's because I saw it in the recommended videos page for CellSpex's review of this crap.
I hope we can all agree the bog king is the only decent character (until he falls vitcim to george). Because before the lovey dovey shit, he was a badass that had some funny lines.
To quote cellspex you are the worst father ever and can someone bury him
I know this movie is painfully stupid, but just for the visual part (which is AMAZING, seriously the concept artists and animators did just perfect) and the beauty and the beast type of couple which is my type of shit, i love it so damn much i've watched it over 10 times.
I will admit, the Bog King reacting to the princess breaking out into "Sugar Pie Honey Bunch" got me to bust out laughing.
This movie makes me sad, because I feel like conceptually it started much differently and through rewrites and transitions became disjointed. I would love for the concept of a West Side Story style music with the two warring families utilizing different genres of music in the class of this film it would be rock vs more Disneyesque show tunes with them blending the two genres as the lands reconcile. I honestly think that that is what this movie initially started as till someone was just like "let's throw in some love potions and call it a day"
What?
It's based on a midsummer night's dream
Neat idea, which I'm so stealing.
Ooh, how about it turns out there's a third faction led by the villain, who's been manipulating both sides by playing to their own egos and insecurities so he can rule both, and unlike the two, he has no songs whatsoever.
There was an early treatment where the young Boggie and Fairy King were friends but BK was somehow implicated in the death of Fairy queen and MaryAnne grows up to rectify the situation. -ex Lucas story artist.
The only enjoyable thing about this movie was the Bog King. And he could still use some improvement...
Excellent use of the "urge to kill rising" clip.
Is it just me or did the Fairy King look alot like George Lucas?
hemmingwayfan Oh my God. It does! Like.....alot alike.
Holy crap the resemblance is uncanny, lol
Holy shit I noticed that immediately.
Given the themes in this movie and the fact that he intended it for HIS daughters, that really shouldn't surprise anybody. :/
OH MY GOD YES!!!
Am I the only one who's sick of the "using cover songs in cheap kid-aimed non-jukebox musical movies" idea? For one thing, it's lazy af, and it ruins them for parents/babysitters/older people who have to suffer through this shit). *facepalm*
Cody Fox I am sick of it too.
I mean it can work (in theory), but it rarely does. Usually because it's not used very creatively.
Eek. There's just something troubling about a movie aimed at children with a plot point featuring a "love potion" that incapacitates women into becoming amorous in a post-Cosby world.
Not to mention that you can literally make the least possible effort and still win the hot popular girl despite your being a short, uninteresting gnome of a boy.
I see no problem is those two characters ending-up together based on looks alone. Is love supposed to be build on perceived standards of beauty? What is problematic, morally speaking, is how everyone in this movie, including Sunny, thinks of love potion as a cute thing. Another problem, screenwriting-wise, is that the love from her side comes out of nowhere and seems lazily written.
@@AlirioAguero2 I have a problem with characters ending up together in what is framed as a good relationship if that relationship is based on looks alone, regardless of if they're both conventionally attractive or not.
But yeah...love potions are a lot worse than basically _any_ author gives them credit for.
@Laura Birdwell Love potions are basically magic roofies. And Shrek 2 was a good example of love potions done right. The maker is the villain who made a business of trying to sell "Happily Ever After" to people.
I am surprised that Alan Cumming wasn't counted as a saving grace. He is the only reason I bought the soundtrack of this movie. The little song 'Evil', btw was DELETED and cut up from the film which you can only hear on the soundtrack or delete scene/outtake special feature. So can that be another sin added to this film?
"One day I will see Alan Cumming in a decent movie musical." Cough, Reefer Madness, cough.
Also, "Annyoing" Parents? :P
Annyoing. Noun. When you are so irritated that you forget how to spell it out.
Well.......technically Reefer Madness was a TV movie, but still amazing
Diva's referring to Marianne's mother, Ann Yoing.
In one of her earlier cases, Diva misspelled “number,” as “nubmer.”
Because poor literacy is kewl!
I have a soft spot for the Bog King. Not only is his voice actor very talented, but as a cynical grumpy bastard myself, I have a liking for other cynical grumpy bastards. If only he were in a better movie.
PLOT TWIST: Marianne was already a strong-willed lady; but that Prince dude used a love potion on Marianne to secure his path to the throne. Hence the sappy, cutesy, annoying attitude she had at the beginning of the movie.
I'm personally happy to say that the first time I heard Can't Help Falling in Love was in Lilo and Stitch.
me too
@ no
@ cant help falling in love was on the end credits of lilo&stich
same, and Elvis too.
Yes Diva. Rip this piece of trash. Have the nerve to call this the "Star Wars" for girls. And I am personally offended that THIS is considered a musical, which is extremely insulting. The film has more trash songs than actual dialogue, which makes it all worse. Glad this flopped.
Um, you do know those were all hit songs before right?
I don't care, because it was improperly used and structured throughout the film.
Hit song does not equal a good song. And well, by the very definition, this IS a musical, just a very poorly constructed one.
Sorry but Stronger by Kelly Clarkson, isn't crap, half the others I never heard.
When Nostalgia Critic reviews Strange Magic and says in the verdict why people could appreciate Strange Magic more, you know just what to do with him.
Dawn: Starts singing when she sees the bog king
Bog King: wut
Me: mood
And because it's Sugar-Pie, Honey-Bunch, who can blame him?
I watched the movie a few days ago after watching a review about it. I was in the mood of a trash feast, something so bad it's funny for all the wrong reasons and was... partly pleased, partly disappointed? I expected something more trashy after hearing this is one of the worst animated movies of all time and there are many shitty things going on (I agree with most of this review) but there's worse out there. There are even a few aspects I really like and enjoyed. I think, and this is nothing but an opinion, what makes everyone so angry at this movie is the fact that with a few tweaks, it could have been decent. Not a classic, but less offending.
1. As mentioned in this video, add a few lines that hint at Dawn liking the token poc character but dismissing it because she was brainwashed with talk about social standing
2. Away with this cringy last song, let it end for Bog and Marianne like it did for Anna and Kristof, on a "We like each other, probably more than just like, and i totally want to see you again!"-note instead of this stupid "oooh love of my liiiife"-kitsch fest (Bog's mom's scene with the "date" setting would have been kinda funny, the characters are already like "seriously? We've just met and exchanged two calm sentences after fighting, this if far out of place!". But it loses any comedic potential because in the end, what mom wants is exactly what happens. A one true love romance even classic Disney princesses would call rushed). Give them a few lines that mean something, cut out that horrible last song and show instead that maybe, Dad Fairy realises that daughters are interesting people, too, and not just good looking decoration who need a good man to be complete, and let the different folks and kingdoms make peace (instead of King Lucas, I mean, King Selfinsert, I mean, the wise and goodhearted Fairy King cry over his beautiful daughters' choices)
3. Consistent design choices. The fairies don't look bad but the butterfly wings seem to come from a cheap Barbie production. The goblins aren't pretty but there's love for detail, but Bog's mom and Sunny look like cheap troll dolls.
4. Lucas should just have kept his mouth shut. As said, with a few simple tweaks, this wouldn't have been a great movie, but a harmless enough guilty pleasure. But his "Girls don't like Star Wars, I'll make a movie perfectly tailored for what girls want to see in a movie!" turns the movie into an insult to every girl's tastes and intelligence. If he had just said:"I wanted to change the genre from SciFi fantasy to more classic, fairytale fantasy" the initial reaction would probably more like, okay, that's fair, it was an attempt, he tried to get out of his comfort zone. He didn't create a masterpiece but hey, it's good enough for a Sunday afternoon after waking up with a hangover.
4. Too bad he already tried that with Willow.
I am so mad they couldn't have done a Narcissus thing for Roland. Instead of a Pill Bug he becomes SUPER infatuated with his reflection. But no.
I do love the idea of the badass villain king being set up on dates by his mom. It has a lot of comedic potential.
So he makes a movie for his daughters... where he puts a character that would happily brainwash a girl to fall in love with him as a romantic good guy. That both explains soooo much and makes me terrified for the Lucas girls.
I have to say that this Taming Of The Shrew terrible adaptation of sorts pales next to the Moonlighting episode and 10 Things I Hate About You.
As for the next case: OH GOD. The latest one had crappy CGI (like the one time they didn't notice they had made a woman with four arms... not kidding), horrible Glee-ripoff singing and downright disturbing character design, and since each movie so far has been worse than the previous one, this will be made by the denizens of your own domicile, Diva! (Btw, is there a movie industry in Hell?)
Hell invented the movie industry.
From what I've heard that was Disney's idea. Lucas apparently wanted her to choose to remain single at the end.
Gregory House Lucas also called this movie Star Wars movie for girls. True story
Painocus Was it Disney's idea? They purchased the IP but they didn't produce the movie in one of their studios.
Midsummer Night's Dream. Not Taming of the Shrew.
To be honest this film may have been better if Disney never bought Lucasfilms. Originally this movie would have been much darker with fewer (if any) pop songs. They were considering “Bring Me to Life” by Evanescence at one point for example. Also, if Disney never took it over then it is likely that the whole beginning with the Roland cheating and the whole heartbreak transformation wouldn't have been in the movie, rather picking up at where Marianne is already heartbroken. Also, she may have been given an earlier interaction with the Bog King, and with the beginning sequence gone they could have had more time to develop a romance. Also, Disney wanted to put a emphasis on the whole Sunny and Dawn thing cause they wanted to make a TV show spinoff with the two, actually originally Lucas wanted Dawn to remain single in the end to show it was ok to be on your own, which would have likely gotten rid of some of the creepy Sunny.... Idk, just saying, Disney did have a lot of influence in this and I think that is why it came out poorly
Even if Disney didn't get involved, there was still a chance it would suck.
Even if it was "too dark", they could've just released it under Touchstone, and this time with a purpose. But then again, that can go both directions.
ThePotatoKing Yeah, that's basically what Touchstone was there for.
Tbh the idea of singing pixies/fairies or whatever is pretty shitty to begin with and Lucas doesn't have a good track record on his own. So I'm pretty sure it still would've been shit.
Dude, Metallica makes “Bring Me to Life” look like the Sesame Street theme song. Let's not put "Bring Me to Life" as anywhere near close to an example of a dark song
Lucas's ideas here are a little sexist on both parts, thinking only boys like sci fi and only girls like fairy fantasy stories.
Or maybe he just knows what kind of girls his daughters are.
Nathan Higgins preach.
They are outdated setup types. I’m a male and I like fantasy stories.
Kae McSpadden We’re sure Doug Walker has the same idea, only even more over-exaggerated because if he reviewed Strange Magic, he’d end up glaring at and blindly criticizing the movie’s hatebase!!!! So fuck Channel Awesome!!!!
No one ever accused George Lucas of being a woke, or even particularly intelligent, man. This is the same guy who called the people signing his checks White Slavers.
"George Lucas made this movie for his daughters." At the time of this movie's release Lucas's daughters were 34, 27, and 2 years old respectively. I highly doubt his two year old would understand any of it and I really hope he didn't think his grown ass daughters would be interested in this movie.
When he started playing with this concept, his daughters were 19 and 12. Still in the realm of "I know what little girls want" delusional parental thinking.
About Sin number 5... most monarchs are like that. The King in the movie does have a point on pushing marriage. If his direct hiers don't bequeath a child to continue the dynasty, a civil war could break out for the position for the throne. The same could be said for the other side, though it could also be that the mother doesn't want her son to declare war in order to keep their kingdom stable. In a competent movie, this would be stated.
The underlying story is actually good, it’s just the execution was terrible. See all the amazing AO3 fanfics as undeniable evidence.
The underlying story revolves around date rape drugs.
Lmao
I dare myself to study and rewrite this entire movie. I might lose all my brain cells in the process though.
The Bog King's backstory made no sense. I think he should have been the drugged because that would make his hatred to the Sugar Plum Fairy and her potions make sense. Think about it: A woman wanting the Bog King would use it to try to seduce him, he finds out and feels violated, so he bans the love potion ingredient and jails the Fairy. That would make sense. But no.
God, this movie throws around the word "Love" more times than both a Shakespeare play and Moulin Rouge combined.
Bog almost saved this movie for me. Almost.... He wasn't on enough scenes (he did all the little humor that this movie manages to have) and while the twist of the heroine getting with the villain was rather interesting in concept, it was horribly executed...
This was the last movie i ever worked on in my time in the Animation Industry. A bittersweet finale it was. On the one hand a dream realized to get to work alongside the great George Lucas AND being reunited with a former crew to get the band back together in a beautiful part of the country and make more money than I'd ever made before. On the other, learning George was a terrible director, an editor with no sense of direction, and a penchant for burning money with nothing to show for it.
Storytime: Picture it. Los Angeles. 2010. I've just completed what I thought was the worst movie of my career (Alpha&Omega) when i get an email from a former director asking who wants to move to SF to work at Lucasfilm? Not being a schmuck, I joined up blissfully unaware of the consequences to come. FF 29 months, we were out the door after rebuilding this problem-child 4x and still not able to read George's mind who doesn't believe in storyboards or linear plots. The movie was taken from LAL and given to ILM to complete. Big Rock studio was shut down. Directors were fired and replaced w Gary Rystrom who had angrily waved his Sound Design Oscar in everyone's face to get the job. Careful what you wish for. Even while building the story we had no idea who was the protagonist was supposed to be. And there were no females on the story crew so the nice-guy love potion debacle was summarily glossed over as a fairy tale trope. We all knew it was bad optics but we got caught up in trying to salvage the characters rather than the overall plot. There was no stopping the needle drops. Moulin Rouge was the template but it never felt right.
This final form is different than the last place we left it. Grizelda was a giant troll paired with a male that was another barrier along Sunny's route to the castle. There was a subplot of Dawn winning over the goblins and going all Snow White on the group and cleaning the castle. The ending with the minion goblin being female came out of nowhere.
While we kept mining for gold, there was an entire animation studio in Singapore that was waiting for us to send them stuff to work on. FOR 2 YEARS.
It was around summer 2012 we got news about the sale. George got a $4billion check and we hung on for another 5 months watching the dream collapse. There was so much great about the experience. The people, the places were memory palaces. We held weekly parties at our condo, made an earnest Halloween short film, hiked the mountains of Marin county, explored SF, Lucasfilm Christmas parties. Just sorry the job left such a bad taste. Which is not to say i had a bad time. I was the luckiest schmuck ever. No one wants to make a bad movie. I was working with some of the most talented artists on the planet. In the end it was a bad story. And no one could save it.
Thank you for sharing! I'm always fascinated by the stories behind bad movies--as you say, nobody starts out with the intention of making one, but somehow they get to the point where they can't be salvaged.
Kinda ironic that the heroxvillain thing they had going for in Strange Magic would end up being carried over to the Star Wars sequel trilogy
Why does Roland have a really thick Southern accent? That's kindof a weird choice for the Gaston-like prince character.
I think they were trying to give him an Elvis-like quality? Maybe?
I'm always excited to see a new Musical Hell episode, but it's even more of an extra treat this time because today's my birthday!
Happy birthday!
Thank you. That was nice of you. I'm not really doing much for my birthday this year due to tight budget, but I am excited for the Gallifrey One Doctor Who Convention. That's where the real party is.
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday and may your candlelights be EXTERMINATED!!!!!!!!
I know what can be done! We force George Lucas to watch the Star Wars holiday special with Jar Jar Binks sitting next to him the whole time! No that'd be too cruel, for criminals let alone George Lucas.
He likes Jar Jar
Billy Barnett We will make him see Jar Jar the way we do, an annoying character that was completely pointless.
Michael Nally lets make him watch the holiday special and all of star wars clone wars and rebels
MeMyself AndSomePie You know he produced the Clone Wars (at least up until cancellation of it) right?
And your making Rebels out as if it’s the worst thing to happen in Star Wars History.
Thanks for doing this one! I'll admit for a very strange period of time I liked this movie. I was just so happy to have a fairy movie that had SOMETHING of a darker side that I was a bit (very) blind to it's now obvious flaws. I think in another universe, this could have had potential. But sadly this is not that universe, Lucas studios isn't making magic anymore, and we will never get a decent dark fairy movie. :(
Missed you Diva! So glad to see one of your videos again!!
Labyrinth??!! Yes, I LOVE that movie!! I love it so much I actually try to keep up with some of the fandom surrounding it. Stuff like fan art, comics, and other various fan mediums. I'd say it definitely counts as a dark fae movie. In fact I think it's the movie that leads to a lot (if not a greater majority) of interest in fae mythos. But a dark fairy movie is something I have only seen mere glimpses of. Stories, yes. Art, yes. But a movie would really be a great addition to the somewhat neglected aspect of true (read: darker than Disney's) fairy media.
Instead of Strange Magic, this movie should have been called The Butterfly & The Mosquito
The film Splash was actually the first film released under the Touchstone Pictures label as a means of advertising more mature films, and it was a critical and commercial success
L Gaines I’m shocked that Diva didn’t mention that, but her point still stands.
Honestly the bog beast is gonna hurt himself by carrying the whole movie!
6:44--6:48
You obviously haven't seen the weirder parts of the internet.
DeviantArt was never meant for the world of the living.
17:52 can we discuss that face please
Rolandpog
"As Keanu Reeves said 'you know relationships based on intense experiences never work' and Keanu Reeves is basically buddha now"
- Cinemasins.
I nearly died laughing at the bit at the beginning of how Carrie Fisher's ghost is giving George the finger for this monstrosity. I think I laughed so hard cause I can seriously imagine that happening, and she probably was flipping him off from beyond the grave. I couldn't stop thinking about that throughout the duration of the video. So thank you for that, Diva!
I seriously feel like Lucas insisted on this movie and insisted on it being this plot and these characters and these songs and at some point disney was like "Okay, this is going to be a touchstone one then."
The funniest part is that he's like "I just want to make a good film for my daughters" when A. the company he now kind of works for has already made multiple movies that little girls can enjoy that are so much better then this and B. does he not realize how many people in the Star Wars fandom are girls?
@@benjaminwambeke9458 his daughters have the ability to dislike star wars please stop conflating all woman with his daughters it is unhealthly and a stupid mind set where in all people are boiled down to there genders statistics chart
edit: he paid and produced it not directed so many of the finer details can very easily be asssumed to be other peoples faults if you have actual evidence that it's his fault please show it otherwise please do not assume the worst of a persons character because it's convenient
It would have been much better if the bog king was a twist "non-villain" that felt remorse for love potioning his best friend as he lost her as a friend and wanted to prevent sunny from doing the same, He follows sunny around trying to thwart him then when sunny gets away with the potion he and Marianne team up to stop sunny. ultimately but they do not have to stop him because sunny cannot actually go through with using the love potion.
My friends and I watched this drunk, and it was the only way we could get through it. There were points of genuine hysterics at this movie.
It's a shame though, because there are glimmers of perhaps some good morals and lessons to be taught here - if, for example, Sunny had been successful at some point with Dawn falling for him due to the Love Potion, that could have paved the way for interesting character exploration. He could have realised that (given the effects of the potion) her love wasn't genuine, and that it felt shallow; that it could never take the place of genuine affection. He could have come to terms with the fact that you can't force someone to truly love you, and when the spell his broken he could have profusely apologised and realised that Dawn's friendship is enough for him, because he genuinely cares for her. Heck, they could have even hinted that his transformation of character, his no longer actively looking for rewards but instead just enjoying her friendship (and being a genuinely good person for the sake of being a good person), could have sown the seeds for genuine affection from Dawn. AND THAT'S JUST ONE WASTED FACET OF THE FILM.
Good Lord I don't think I've seen a movie this obsessed with the concept of love in my entire life.
Not the first Lucas film to use a love potion as a somewhat creepy plot point.
Dunes8 what WAS the first, then?
Funnily enough, I remember seeing this video ages ago. Now it's included on Disney+ under the animation category.
Oh not to mention another thing with the love potion. If the person never met their 'true love' before they were hit with the potion wouldn't that mean the spell could never be broken because they are too hypnotised to be interested in meeting and interacting with anyone new?
I like that the bog king's the one singing about being abused and mistreated when it was Marianne who got cheated on right before her wedding. Not that being rejected isn't painful, but still
"I wish I had boys"
Just what every daughter wants to hear. Hear that, little girls this movie is apparently targeted towards? YOU'RE UNWANTED.
Here's a suggestion: for the problematic way every male character treats magical roofie potion, condemn George Lucas to question for the rest of his life if his daughters were actually successfully dosed with the potion whenever they bring someone home / move in with a person / get married. Maybe that would illustrate the inherent moral problem of a love potion to him.
Is it my imagination or the Fairy King looks a lot like George Lucas?
"One day I *will* see Alan Cumming in a decent movie musical!" Sooo not a fan of Reefer Madness, are ya?
I love Reefer Madness; the pain of this movie just temporarily drove it from my mind.
Musical Hell As totally legitimate Musical M.D., I prescribe an afternoon of watching a Reefer Madness double feature... the accompaniment of actual weed isn't necessary, but recommended
Musical Hell I didn't even know there was a musical version of that until I started watching you.
He was in that show from Logo TV, and it's not that bad.
He was in Spice World too!
I'll leave now...
19:19 isn't that enough songs for this movie? Why need a song for every moment that happens, even when confessing somethings is someone
This movie has 14 songs! That's more than twice the number most Disney movies have!
12:46 that reaction is literally everyone towards this movie.🤣
At least Bog gets a laugh outta me.
Honestly, this film is a guilty pleasure. I love the song covers (even though there are way too many) I'm a sucker for the character designs and the art style in general. Not to mention the Hero falling for the "villain" (Bog isn't really a villain but whatever) and that is how the villain is "redeemed" is pretty interesting. Not to mention Marian a princess, falls in love with a king, not a prince. That in itself is interesting.
Ouch! But I have been waiting for Musical Hell to touch this one some day, even though I do actually like it a lot. It's a favorite at a regular Movie Night I used to frequent in part because it opens up as SUCH a bewildering train wreck, and first timers always spend the first twenty minutes groaning and complaining, start warming up around Love Is Strange, and then by the time Strange Magic kicks in they're having a ball. I swear, it's like it got handed off to different people after twenty minute mark and a lot of the initial problems with the writing, pacing, use of music, chemistry, appeal, etc. suddenly got a lot better.
I consider it an under appreciated movie, but it's still not a "great" movie, or a particularly smart movie, yeah, and that Nice Guy thing is just total garbage. Seriously. Also, the original intent of that Movie Night was to watch bad movies, so our perspective may have become a little warped by the time we got to Strange Magic.
The whole SunnyxBlondePrincess romance is even worse consider8ng the fact the spell broke after she thought her “lover” was dead.
So this is like a nice guy trying to romance his widow crush at the husband’s funeral. That is all kinds of fucked up.
Now _that_ is the ultimate Nice guy fantasy
0:30 two films: American Tail and Labyrinth. Bluth may have been the director, Don Bluth may have been director, and Steven Spielberg takes a lot of credit for producing, but Lucas was also a producer on that film, same as Labyrinth. So he's technically worked on musicals before, and both of those films are perfectly fine.
Having said that, I agree with your points.
I have to admit, I actually enjoyed watching Strange Magic, especially the relationship between Marianne and the Bog King. It was until after watching some reviews that I began to see the movie's flaws. Now I absolutely love the Bog King's rendition of Trouble and the "Strange Magic" song, but yeah, I do have my problems with this movie.
1. As much as I love musicals, I feel like Strange Magic should of had original songs instead of a pop culture playlist. I mean, seriously! It's a tale about the world of fairies and mystical creatures (inspired by Shakespeare btw), I'm pretty sure a whimsically orchestrated soundtrack would not hurt!
2. The fact that Marianne became a edgy warrior fairy and suddenly hates romance all because of one guy feels rather extreme. Now, I'm sure there have been people whose mindset was changed completely after a breakup or finding out that their partner wasn't as faithful as they thought. I guess, as a defense for Marianne, she probably was always a cheerful person until Roland cheated, and maybe that was her first time experiencing a rough heartbreak. But if you're going to have a warrior fairy princess as a main character, keep her that way all throughout the story!
3. The Sugar Plum Fairy.... just.... no.... When I first saw her for the first time, I expected her to be this wise, graceful, and powerful character that plays a crucial role in the story. Instead, I got an unbearable "comic relief" or something... Why is there a Sugar Plum Fairy in this world, by the way? Isn't she a Nutcracker character and shouldn't she be like the one elderly fairy from Fern-Gully?
4. Marianne's father. What is it with some movies that the parents of main characters are absolutely terrible parents? I know bad parents (and not just the abusive ones) exist in real life, but REALLY?! Come on, have the father be a understanding and caring being! Have him comfort Marianne when she's going through a heartbreak, have him teach Dawn to be patient about finding true love, have him fact-check Roland and make sure he's not lying, have him do something instead of being an overprotective and oblivious parent!
Sunny killed this movie for me. He was willing to poison a girl to fall for him and yet he wins out in the end? WTF! I would have him banished if I was Dawn. His stupidity could have gotten people killed. I don't care how nice he was.Actually scratch that he was only nice to fit his agenda with getting into Dawns pants. Screw him.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Lucas' girls are grown and have a talk with their father about Sunny who drugged his "friend" being the good/nice guy that Dawn falls in love with.
We already have a Star Wars for girls. It’s called Star Wars.
The worst part about this movie is the wasted potential
The 2015 in parentheses when RUclips is trying to sell this movie to me makes me think that there might be another, earlier Strange Magic.
12:40
There! That's the whole movie!
*roll credits*
1:25 To be fair, “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” DESERVED the “Touchstone Pictures” label given its sexual innuendoes and mature themes.
Had it been released under the “Disney” name, the film would have gotten a lot of complaints from parents for being too sexual and adult.
Besides, if “The Black Cauldron” has taught us anything, it’s that slapping the PG rating on a DISNEY animated film leads to box office failure.
Interestingly enough, it was Roy E. Disney (vice-chairman and nephew of Walt Disney) who suggested to then-CEO Michael Eisner after a preview screening that the film be released under the “Touchstone Pictures” banner instead because he felt that the line, “Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?”, was, in his words, *”too risqué for the Disney label”.*
Source: “Disney War” by James B. Stewart
"One day, Lucifer willing, I will see Alan Cumming in a decent movie musical... one day!"
Where have you landed on Cumming and Chenoweth in _Schmigadoon!..._ "Wish Granted" or "Still Waiting?"
It’s a great musical, but it’s a TV series, not a movie, and she did specifically mention movie musicals.
George Lucas should have to watch people watching the star wars holiday special for all eternity. Actually, wait! That movie has like 5 songs in it! Maybe I'll see it on here one day...
* *sob* * I miss Carrie Fisher...
And yeah, this movie is trash jukebox musical.
I still love it. Because I was charmed by visuals.
I watched this movie out of boredom one night because I was curious and I have never been so perplexed by a musical in my life, the animation is so good, they could have written an original score for the film and this could have been so good, but it was just NOT good at all.
The imp was the only thing I liked about this movie.
It was cute, okay?
Clevera *happy imp noises*
How Dawn and Sunny's arc should have resolved:
...Ya know, even though I was embarrassed to admit it, I _was_ interested in you - until you tried to drug me.
It has the bare bones of a decent plot, but there's no meat on them and they're not put together correctly.
5:29 to see why the "nice guy" cliche is terrible, see Hal from megamind.
Okay, Diva, I am back again to beg you to do one of two movies (I already love your reviews): have you seen the "Strange Magic" film that is set in England in the mid seventies? It stars Minnie Driver as a high school teacher (she doesn't "sing" in this one) who makes The Tempest into a musical for her students who then put it on, singing glam rock era music (Bowie, Sweet, T. Rex, ELO, etc). I'd LOVE to hear your review. And of course I am stil begging you to do DeLovely!! PLEASE!
aleister crowley that sounds awesome actually!
She did do De-Lovely.
14:21 what did you expect from the guy who wrote, "I don't like sand."