This is by far the best video to get your Cytomic Glue working like a breeze. Beautiful
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Thank you so much Streaky ! This is really a nice change that makes everything sound more beautiful and "professional". I learned a valuable point here ! Great Content ! you are the best pedagogue I've seen over here !
Another good tip is with a comp like the api2500 you can set your stereo linking/independence. 80% instead of 100% on mix bus is nice for a slightly wider image in my opinion.
I used to use the Waves SSL G-Buss compressor, but after trying out stuff from Plugin Alliance/Brainworx, it's hard to turn back. The bx_townhouse has become my go to master bus compressor at this point. The Vertigo VSC-2 if I want dual mono VCA/SSL style bus compression so L and R duck independently. Sidechain filtering on compressors should be default at this point going forward for any modern plugin, very helpful on things like the master bus or drum bus group.
I was thinking 200hz SCF is a bit high for my taste because when I compress a drum bus even a 30-60hz SCF can make a big difference in the triggering of the reduction and affect the balance between the kick & snare BUT this is awesome! You're spot on here, it's undeniable when you judge with your ears first, in a mix bus scenario bypassing the fundamentals of the kick and snare from triggering the reduction really gives that glued sound rather than a typical compression sound. Thank you!
Always great tips and your courses are true gems But for the love of good a new song maybe something with some bite! Some times its hard for our un trained ears to hear what your referring too on such a soft track.
For me, the Glue from Cytomic is one of greatest VCA compressor emulations around next to native SSL or Townhouse from Brainworx, and last but not least Vertigo VSC2. Still haven't found anything close to the sound and action of these on the bus!
I think you missed something important. Did you notice that after you applied the sidechain hp filter, the vocals were what makes the comp work unevenly? I think that you should've also dipped 1-2 db out of the 1.5k ish frequencies. You need eventually the kick and snare to trigger it evenly and not see too much compression affected from the vocals. In this case, an external sidechain would've been more useful.
what i noticed in cytomic is that the makeup gain adds more volume than the number that you select. Like listen to it and also look at the peak meter, if you add 1db it goes a lil bit above 1db
Hi Streaky, First of all, I want to thank you for all your excellent videos i love it, I learn a lot from them and One question, do you have any videos of the black box HG2? Thanks!!
@@ChrisBessy The waves g compressor? That's awful. You must mean another. Oh I would never use Pro C on master, I use it on tracks only. I guess we have different taste. But I do use Pro C a lot cause it's a very conventional compressor that behaves exactly as you expect.
@@teddym2808 Yes the SSL G-Master Compressor. I tried some mix and listen in my car, with all compressor I have. And often, I had bad sound with the Glue. More natural with SSL, and transparent with Pro C. I love use fabfilters vst on channels and on master bus. Yes we have all own style of musique, and different taste for sure :)
00:01 Enhance mix with bus compression 00:35 Setting up a bus compressor for optimal performance 01:15 Achieving smooth compression for a cohesive mix 01:51 Side chain feature changes threshold detection point 02:32 Understanding the impact of frequencies above 200 htz on compressor thresholds. 03:07 Adjusting side chain affects compressor's threshold 03:54 Achieving perfect compression with peak optimization. 04:53 Eliminating lower frequencies for smoother sound Crafted by Merlin AI.
Amazing content as usual! Perfect compression in a "mastering scenario" you should add to the title. BTW, I can't watch you holding an SM7B to blend in with the teenagers on RUclips, just drop it 🤣 Thank you for your input, your are helping the audio community A LOT.
Great videos ! Could you do a tutorial on ocean drive by duke Dumont ? How they got the kick and bass so punchy 80s vibe (I know they used the ssl compression ) 😁
streaky can you please make a video about fletcher munson curves and ideal spl for listening volumes on speakers and headphones but especially headphones because i can’t figure out how can i measure it
Makes sense what you say with regards this internal sidechain, but I have tried Two pair of headphones I cannot realy say if there is much difference given by that type of compression
Great video, learn something new from you every time.. just one question: Why do you high pass at 200hz? My ssl bus compressors only go to 185hz hpf... thanks
In and out of comp Don't worry I'm not complaining about the song. Just had to say something though. Great info as always. Now if only I could learn it.
Any mix you’ve loved that went through the hardware SSL compression on the board, a 33609 etc. the sidechain method is not employed. This is a modern plug-in fad… NOT using the sidechain is actually what creates the classic glue, especially in rock music. This is not from my mind, but huge mixers who mix the music you actually hear. Streaky’s advice works, too but applies much more to mastering situations where subtlety is desired and where frequency dependent compression tools have been a staple for longer than 10-15 years. Embrace the movement caused by bus compression, if it’s pumping too wildly you probably have mixing issues (tubby kick etc) that the bus comp is actually illuminating for you 👍
HI STREAKY|! BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL, i have a question, whats the brand of your studio desk? you might have gotten this question earlier which im ok to search on the thousands of videos you have but trying to do just a little shortcut on this question,, i totally love that desk, is it a sterling modular?
Thanks !! just googled them, so lucky im in spain building a new studio ! my main one is the miami! this came so handy ,, thank you so so much for the reply! keep the amazing videos going! you're amazing engineer!@@Streaky_com
LOL I knew as soon as you said special feature you were going to talk about the high pass. BTW the IK offers this too (less range as do most of them) but no parallel Waves is the weakest SSL bus comp plugin there are others that are very good too now like overloud which have advanced features like the Glue
All DAWs have their pros and cons, im sure we can all agree on this. All a daw is, is simply a tool in which to get your work done. When i discovered ABLETON, i fell in love with it. this is MY go to for everything. can it be better? sure! but can i do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING I need to do with to make my music? A RESOUNDING YES is the answer to that! so I will say, for ME, Im ABLETON FOR LIFE AND AFTER LIFE! JESUS CHRIST is using ABLETON!!!!
Thank you for the trick. Note: as a Logic user like you I should say the new "mastering mystery tool" of Logic is far less agile on this subject sometimes, even it what we put inside is nicely balanced (not always, and as an Intel mac user I've only access to its "clean" setting) . Do you plan to do a video about this new tool?
I saw an interview with Bob Clearmountain on Rick Beato’s show recently and at one point they were talking about bus compression while mixing, and he said sometimes he went as high as -6 WHAT -6 He wasn’t Mastering. He was just mixing through it. But that’s still weird. I’m always about -2-3.5 Tops
For better explanation of the automatic release in VCA compressors and some corrections. - The automatic release is used when a song is arrhythmic, this meaning when a song doesn't follow a perfect quantized rhythm, this way you preserve a more natural movement in the song. - The high pass in the compressor doesn't complete evade low end, according to the manual the curve is a soft -6 dB/Oct. This means the compressor will still detect low end but in a much softer way. These types of compressors will ALWAYS detect low end since they are monoband. So, the example you are giving with the Pro-Q is really bad. Is not everything above 200hz. Also, if you are going to use HP in glue compressing, PLEASE make sure you really know how to control low end.
Interestingly i feel the upgraded UAD SSL G sounds better but besides that … you are using 4:1 ratio instead of 2:1 … that feels a bit much on the master bus 😊
When I watch Streaky, I know I’m going to hear two things:
1. Great advice.
2. We’re falling in and out of love.
Hahaha time for a new tune I think
@@Streaky_com please
Do you prefer Sandstorm by Derud though ;p
I've not watched his videos for a while, so it's brand new to me. Great tune. Reminds me of Dutch Uncles a little bit.
@@Streaky_com Haha, I love your stuff and have three of your courses, but this was funny, I think it may be time for a new tune...
This is by far the best video to get your Cytomic Glue working like a breeze. Beautiful
Thank you so much Streaky ! This is really a nice change that makes everything sound more beautiful and "professional". I learned a valuable point here ! Great Content ! you are the best pedagogue I've seen over here !
great pleased it helped
Great video! Can I get the same result if I I add an EQ after my SSL compressor?
Thank you so much Streaky, much love mate !
Great explanation of a simple idea with a very conplex reasoning and proof to back it up, you are the man Streaky
Another good tip is with a comp like the api2500 you can set your stereo linking/independence. 80% instead of 100% on mix bus is nice for a slightly wider image in my opinion.
Thanks Streky, the song is fine. The info is what we are here for 👊🏽
This mans has transformed my music. Thank you so much for sharing with us all!
"this mans has" .... We all think you sound really cool, modern and intelligent
👍🏽 yes … i love cytomic Glue ….I also believe TDR Kotelnikov GE does this as well great stuff Streaky 🙌🏽
Me:" very nice compressor" everyone:"in and out of love"
I’ve been doing that for awhile but not going as high as 200hz… but I’m gonna sure try it out because it sounds clean, thanks!
Go as high until you cut out the pumping, like a kick
I used to use the Waves SSL G-Buss compressor, but after trying out stuff from Plugin Alliance/Brainworx, it's hard to turn back. The bx_townhouse has become my go to master bus compressor at this point. The Vertigo VSC-2 if I want dual mono VCA/SSL style bus compression so L and R duck independently. Sidechain filtering on compressors should be default at this point going forward for any modern plugin, very helpful on things like the master bus or drum bus group.
I was thinking 200hz SCF is a bit high for my taste because when I compress a drum bus even a 30-60hz SCF can make a big difference in the triggering of the reduction and affect the balance between the kick & snare BUT this is awesome! You're spot on here, it's undeniable when you judge with your ears first, in a mix bus scenario bypassing the fundamentals of the kick and snare from triggering the reduction really gives that glued sound rather than a typical compression sound. Thank you!
If you own Ableton Live, Cytomic makes their "Glue Compressor". I believe it's basically the same as the compressor here.
Amazing video!Thank you very much!Crimea here!
Always great tips and your courses are true gems But for the love of good a new song maybe something with some bite! Some times its hard for our un trained ears to hear what your referring too on such a soft track.
For me, the Glue from Cytomic is one of greatest VCA compressor emulations around next to native SSL or Townhouse from Brainworx, and last but not least Vertigo VSC2. Still haven't found anything close to the sound and action of these on the bus!
I think you missed something important. Did you notice that after you applied the sidechain hp filter, the vocals were what makes the comp work unevenly? I think that you should've also dipped 1-2 db out of the 1.5k ish frequencies. You need eventually the kick and snare to trigger it evenly and not see too much compression affected from the vocals. In this case, an external sidechain would've been more useful.
But it's also possible with the fabfilter product portfolio?
Yeah slightly different vibe
what i noticed in cytomic is that the makeup gain adds more volume than the number that you select. Like listen to it and also look at the peak meter, if you add 1db it goes a lil bit above 1db
Awesome ! More of these please…TYSM…!
These Attack and Release settings, in Fatso, are called model "splat" compression
Thank you for your advices!
Having tried lots of plugins, I have to say my favorite "glue" is real magnetic tape.
Hail to the king of mixing and mastering
This was an excellent tutorial. Very informative. Thanks Streaky!
that ‘in & out’ pun made my day. thnx man
Nice to know. Thanks!
I am very grateful for you giving back to us passionate hobbyists / semi pros! Thank you!
Hi Streaky, First of all, I want to thank you for all your excellent videos i love it, I learn a lot from them and One question, do you have any videos of the black box HG2? Thanks!!
Where can i found the song i love it ❤🇯🇲
Sorry it’s sampled from splice put together
@@Streaky_com damn.
I effin LOVE the glue plugin and recommend it to everyone.
I tried SSL and Glue ..... and always for me the SSL has a more natural sound.
@@ChrisBessy Which SSL one, the official SSL native plugins? That's a recreation of a digital mixer SSL compressor. it's good too.
@teddym2808 i have the old vst ssl g-compressor :) but on my master bus i use often pro C ....
@@ChrisBessy The waves g compressor? That's awful. You must mean another. Oh I would never use Pro C on master, I use it on tracks only. I guess we have different taste. But I do use Pro C a lot cause it's a very conventional compressor that behaves exactly as you expect.
@@teddym2808 Yes the SSL G-Master Compressor. I tried some mix and listen in my car, with all compressor I have. And often, I had bad sound with the Glue. More natural with SSL, and transparent with Pro C. I love use fabfilters vst on channels and on master bus. Yes we have all own style of musique, and different taste for sure :)
great and quick thankyou.
00:01 Enhance mix with bus compression
00:35 Setting up a bus compressor for optimal performance
01:15 Achieving smooth compression for a cohesive mix
01:51 Side chain feature changes threshold detection point
02:32 Understanding the impact of frequencies above 200 htz on compressor thresholds.
03:07 Adjusting side chain affects compressor's threshold
03:54 Achieving perfect compression with peak optimization.
04:53 Eliminating lower frequencies for smoother sound
Crafted by Merlin AI.
Amazing content as usual! Perfect compression in a "mastering scenario" you should add to the title. BTW, I can't watch you holding an SM7B to blend in with the teenagers on RUclips, just drop it 🤣 Thank you for your input, your are helping the audio community A LOT.
Hahaha I didn’t have a stand…oh and I think I’m 20 in my head !!!
Great tip! So, for kick compression, is better put a multiband comp before or after this compression with low filter?
Great videos ! Could you do a tutorial on ocean drive by duke Dumont ? How they got the kick and bass so punchy 80s vibe (I know they used the ssl compression ) 😁
SSL native g bus comp has this feature also
great vid. streaky
VAU!🤩 This tip deserves⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks for the tip, but for Electronic Music (house) the ideia is glue kick and Bass too, in this case How should we proceed, thank you❤
Treat them with a multiband
streaky can you please make a video about fletcher munson curves and ideal spl for listening volumes on speakers and headphones but especially headphones because i can’t figure out how can i measure it
Ran into your content by chance, do you have a video of a budget studio setup by any chance?
Arent you making a basic Multiband compressor? like a two band ? with one band compressing less in the bottom end and the next band compressing
No it doesn’t split the signal it just doesn’t react under the amount you set it too
First time i've really understood a compressor 100% thank you
Great advice mate! Thank you so much! 🙏
Great info Streaky, Thanks 👍
Great video streaky. In and out of Love.
Awesome advice/tip!
This was top tip ... Little tricks of the great masters :)
Makes sense what you say with regards this internal sidechain, but I have tried Two pair of headphones I cannot realy say if there is much difference given by that type of compression
Listen to the synth
Can i do it with the pro mb comp?
Great video, learn something new from you every time.. just one question: Why do you high pass at 200hz? My ssl bus compressors only go to 185hz hpf... thanks
The numbers don’t really matter just use your ears to select it…
Great video!
Which song+artist do you use?
In and out of comp
Don't worry I'm not complaining about the song. Just had to say something though.
Great info as always. Now if only I could learn it.
i watched every videos my most favorite sound engineer
I really like that demo track and using the HP really helped. Who' s the artist who performed the song please?
It’s made up from samples on splice
The LEGEND of STREAKY.........ETERNAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
The SSL model you dismissed at the beginning ALSO HAS the HPF sidechain function..
Yeah don’t dismiss just like the sound of this one more
Does the make up gain apply to the side chained signal or the low end as well?
The sidechain is just for the detection of the compressor everything is still being compressed and the make up gain is for the whole signal
Any mix you’ve loved that went through the hardware SSL compression on the board, a 33609 etc. the sidechain method is not employed.
This is a modern plug-in fad… NOT using the sidechain is actually what creates the classic glue, especially in rock music.
This is not from my mind, but huge mixers who mix the music you actually hear.
Streaky’s advice works, too but applies much more to mastering situations where subtlety is desired and where frequency dependent compression tools have been a staple for longer than 10-15 years.
Embrace the movement caused by bus compression, if it’s pumping too wildly you probably have mixing issues (tubby kick etc) that the bus comp is actually illuminating for you 👍
Mate I cant listen to this song anymore
This was hilarious. But I agree.
😂
I think it's good info but the first thing I said was.. "oh, this song again"
Who cares bro is giving us gems
I know I’ll find another soz
HI STREAKY|! BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL, i have a question, whats the brand of your studio desk? you might have gotten this question earlier which im ok to search on the thousands of videos you have but trying to do just a little shortcut on this question,, i totally love that desk, is it a sterling modular?
Google : Curuxa Customs
Thanks !! just googled them, so lucky im in spain building a new studio ! my main one is the miami! this came so handy ,, thank you so so much for the reply! keep the amazing videos going! you're amazing engineer!@@Streaky_com
can you do this with the waves ssl g buss compressor? I havent seen a feature in there to do so
Some ssl comps have it…but is essential on the mix buss
LOL I knew as soon as you said special feature you were going to talk about the high pass.
BTW the IK offers this too (less range as do most of them) but no parallel
Waves is the weakest SSL bus comp plugin
there are others that are very good too now like overloud which have advanced features like the Glue
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great info thanks for posting
What do you think about 2 Bus channel for drums? . For example 1.Bus: Kick+(Bass(optional)) and 2.Bus All another drums
great idea
I use the drumbus with my drum tracks and use parallel compression on it. Send these all to the actual drumbus. Try it out, it works for me 😊
is this not the same or similar as Glue compressor on Ableton? Its also done by Cytomic.
It is
Nice one! So how is the terry Eq ? I m looking on it for quite some time ?
Epic
Tell him I sent you…he has some fab cables too
@@Streaky_com I discussed the terry cables with ohad , Maybe I ll try a pair but I m quite happy with the excelsus so far.
All DAWs have their pros and cons, im sure we can all agree on this. All a daw is, is simply a tool in which to get your work done. When i discovered ABLETON, i fell in love with it. this is MY go to for everything. can it be better? sure! but can i do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING I need to do with to make my music? A RESOUNDING YES is the answer to that! so I will say, for ME, Im ABLETON FOR LIFE AND AFTER LIFE! JESUS CHRIST is using ABLETON!!!!
This is the same exact model compressor as Ableton's built-in Glue compressor right? Think I've heard that before..
Yeah
Amazing 🔥🔥🔥
streaky do your course has any mastering with acutisca audio
My course doesn’t focus on the make of plugins more skills and processes…
This is lit , thank you
Thank you for the trick. Note: as a Logic user like you I should say the new "mastering mystery tool" of Logic is far less agile on this subject sometimes, even it what we put inside is nicely balanced (not always, and as an Intel mac user I've only access to its "clean" setting) .
Do you plan to do a video about this new tool?
Yeah maybe I’ll have a look
I saw an interview with Bob Clearmountain on Rick Beato’s show recently and at one point they were talking about bus compression while mixing, and he said sometimes he went as high as -6
WHAT -6
He wasn’t Mastering. He was just mixing through it.
But that’s still weird. I’m always about -2-3.5
Tops
I’m like -0.5 😂
what the name of the song?
Awesome🎉
For better explanation of the automatic release in VCA compressors and some corrections.
- The automatic release is used when a song is arrhythmic, this meaning when a song doesn't follow a perfect quantized rhythm, this way you preserve a more natural movement in the song.
- The high pass in the compressor doesn't complete evade low end, according to the manual the curve is a soft -6 dB/Oct. This means the compressor will still detect low end but in a much softer way. These types of compressors will ALWAYS detect low end since they are monoband. So, the example you are giving with the Pro-Q is really bad. Is not everything above 200hz.
Also, if you are going to use HP in glue compressing, PLEASE make sure you really know how to control low end.
Ableton users can do this trick out of the box with the included Glue comp. :)
Thanx for the video. Which studio desk are you using?
Curuxa customs
@@Streaky_comThanx, I’ll check them out
4 ratio on a master bus comp? That's wild man
Standard as long as not doing my gain reduction…glue
It's quite subtle, isn't it?
Yeah it’s alll subtle at this stage of the game
Great 80s soundtrack.
Glue is the best
Is this song out? I’m digging it! What’s the name?! 😅
No it’s made from samples from splice
@@Streaky_com Pull out that song please! i wanna play it in my gigs🙏
Interestingly i feel the upgraded UAD SSL G sounds better but besides that … you are using 4:1 ratio instead of 2:1 … that feels a bit much on the master bus 😊
Can you compress that track so that no one has to hear any of it?
😂😂😂
Lol
I understand the idea but when you were using the internal HP filter you never turned off the pro q 3
@@Streaky_comthe song is good....people are piling on...lol
😂
Anyone else remember when you needed to order those special cables from Alan Smart to be able to do this? If you know, you know.
I used to love that compressor in the 90's
To my ears auto release is more "gluey" than 100 ms which tends to sound "jumpy"
Yeah I agree 'Auto' sounds more open and less constrained.
Use Auto for glue, 100ms for punch, these are both common techniques for G bus comps.
Superb stuff!!! Thanks a million for sharing!
It think it would be hilarious if you use the same song for another year!
💪🏻
Falling... In and out of love
VERY NICE
Amazing mate thank you, dope. 🙌
This is probably the clearest explanation of bus compression/glue, and even more so due to the shorter length of the whole video.
🙏
We falling in and out of love
Recording .... Uuuoooo aaa No ( backing vocals )
is colourbox still free to access?
Yep streakyaudio.com
Did I miss using the ‘makeup’ feature?
Beginner here, to me it seems folks have vst addictions
Defo