Own a Ultrasonic Cleaner? Do you use this solution in it?
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Some one said that Simple Green fade the aluminium. he uses ZEP Heavy Duty Citrus Degrasser. Someone used CLR with a vibrating Jar and after over an hour, it was so impressive.
recently bought a 10L version for a carb that had had a couple years of dried hard fuel scum…they float needle valve was and the float pin were seized solid….
Watched many youtube videos of how people used their machine and what cleaner…
Dismantled the carb into jets/bowl/body and put them in separate glass jars in the basket and surrounded by water.
I initially used gas/petrol as I saw someone had good luck with it and it seemed logical…but after 3 rounds of 15-30mins hardly any scum moved…
Next I tried a 50/50 mix of white (4%) vinegar and water…tried the float bowl first and to my relief the fuel scum started to lift in 5mins and after the 15min cycle 95% had lifted..
The carb body was next with the 50/50 white vinegar mix and the same results with the fuel scum with it loosening the float pin free and valve sliding out…the only negative was the carb body started to discolour a little…where as the float bowl didn’t….i presume that theres a different mix of alloys in the body compared to the float bowl.
Anyway the results…the now clean carb was installed on the bike and she fired up for the first time in 3yrs and runs just like it should….i was about to give up on the carb with the canned carb cleaner doing nothing and buying a $700 aftermarket carb….so for $100 the ultrasonic cleaner was well worth the small spend!
I started using awesome cleaner in mine, seems to give a nicer appearance on aluminum then simple green.
Thanks Robert. How long and what temp?
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I bought that same utlrasonic last fall. I couldn't find any of the Simple Green Aircraft Extreme which is supposed to be safe for aluminum. The only thing I could find locally was Krud Kutter degreaser. It worked ok on some really grimey brake calipers and master cylinder. I had to dump it and store it for the winter and haven't had any projects to use it for lately, Krud Kutter also makes a Parts Washer formula that I'll probably try when I run out of this current bottle.
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I use this everyday all day for carburetors and other parts. If you want to do some heavy cleaning you can put stuff in a jar with heavier cleaner and it will clean it through the glass. I use gas in a jar all the time for tough carbs
Great tip! Never thought to try gas! Must do...I'll invite you to a Q/A night!
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When using gas, are you using a vented container or are you able to use a sealed container such as a jar? Also, are you using any heat at all?
@@pt115823 I use a mason jar with lid if I want to submerg it. For bolts and such I use a tall jar that bungee cords come in with the top off. Yes I always have the heat on. Around 50 degrees Celsius
Never used one for a carburetor, but I have the smallest one and find it works out pretty well with a dilution of Hoppes #9 and water to clean smaller firearms parts. Makes me think about picking up a larger one now
Hi Keegan...never heard of Hoppes #9...I will google it. I just cleaned my GF's 40 cal and it turned out great. That was on of the photos in the video.
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I just googled Hoppes and do recognize the brand now...nice
Love the smell of #9.
Reminds me of the past, many moons ago.
I bought one to clean my CB750 carbs. It does a really nice job. Better than I thought it would. I think I paid 200 bucks for mine and probably could have gone with a smaller unit. I used some of the purple colored simple green, but I got some slight discoloration in the metal. Vapor blasting got them looking like new. Lately I've been using some Pinesol, but I haven't had anything too crusty to clean. I chuck all of my jets and emulsion tubes in the ultrasonic anytime I have the carbs off the bike.
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@@How2Wrench That tool you made is pretty sweet. I don't have room for my own vapor blaster at the moment, so I had my mechanic do my carbs. I doubt he had a Conley Carb Clamper, but hopefully he covered the openings with something before blasting them. I should send him a link to your video so he can make one for his shop.
@@daveco1270 Cool. Where did you see the clamp video?
Shane Conley I saw it on the video you did with Cody at Motorcycle MD. I also saw something you posted about it on a vapor honing FB page...I think.
@@daveco1270 Cool. Thank you.
I've just picked up a Finnsonic from the side of the road. I'm experimenting with various base and acid solutions. Right now, I'm on the sodium hydrogencarbonate
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Great video. I have been wanting to invest in a ultra sonic cleaner but didn’t know how well they actually worked...
Life changing. I used to go through a case of break clean in a week... I now use that stuff for breaks only! Easier on the wallet, And on my health. (Noticealby)
Thanks for watching! There are links in the description. different sizes to choose from too. I can't believe the 30L is almost $200 cheaper than when I bought mine 6 months ago!
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I like to use Gunk Carburetor Parts Cleaner in my 3L ultrasonic cleaner. It does an amazing job, but if possible don’t put gaskets or rubber o-rings in it (you’ll be sorry). Rinse all parts and openings (small holes) with water followed by compressed air. Gunk Carburetor Parts Cleaner will need to drained and strained every once in a while but it is reusable as long as it is clean. You should remove any exterior dirt from parts prior to putting into ultrasonic cleaner. I started out with smaller (jewelry cleaner) version. It worked ok, but timer was too short and I didn’t like using same cleaner for my jewelry and for my carburetors. FYI: don’t let temp in cleaner get too hot because Gunk Carburetor Parts Cleaner is flammable. I typically use about 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
Nice! Thank you for sharing! I'm been surprised by some of the solutions people have listed in these comments!
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I run mine at 3:4 water and just enough simple green to change the color and it still does a great job. I’ve also used purple power but as you mentioned it discolored aluminum. 50-60*c for 15 min for most things. Longer if needed
Thanks for adding such detail on the times too!
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A Ziploc bag vibrates like crazy too for tiny parts. I remember a carb cleaner from the mid 70's that came in a tin can with a screen. You just put your parts inside and tapped the lid on for the night. It was quite a surprise seeing the perfectly new looking aluminum, brass, and stainless steel. Never saw the product available again. I can't even remember what it smelt like. The only way we could get it was mail order but when you're growing up with a Sears catalog in the outhouse it's hard to say what normal might be for most people.
Have you tried 60khz or 68khz for cleaning the smaller passageways. I had some luck with both but could only tell by the residue left in the Ziploc bag. Some containers don't like to wiggle back and forth and some develop harmonics and crack up pronto. The fun part is the experimenting. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome and thanks for commenting! We have not played with any hz differences as our units do not let you select something different. Only temp and time. Baggies we've tried and are nice for containing parts. We found you must put something in the bag to "hold it out" or the cleaning in not as good when flat. It seems to like the "space" to do its thing.
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@@How2Wrench You can leave water in your tank and add solvent or detergent along with the parts to a Ziploc bag. If I understand you correctly the Ziploc bag needs a liquid to move the waves to the cleanees. If you leave a little air it can keep the.... patient off the cage so bad luck doesn't get involved. A Ziploc bag of gasoline often works great for carb parts. It's nice not having to contaminate a full volume of resources.
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I believe the product you are talking about is called chem dip, it comes in a metal gallon can with a screen tray and is still available 👍
Shane, I’ve been using U/S cleaners for years restoring motorcycle carbs and parts. I use 2 solutions. Simple Green Precision Aircraft diluted 13:1 does a great job and is aluminum safe. Also, mineral spirits does an excellent job too and will not darken aluminum, zinc, or pot metal. Heat is your friend, especially with mineral spirits. Beware of ‘purple’ or Super Clean cleaners as they are very caustic and eat aluminum. Ask me how I know...
Exactly why I wanted to make this post! Thank you and I will try! BT May I credit you in a upcoming live q/a or video? Would you like to be a guest if I put together ultrasonic QA night?
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I agree with the second suggestion since it is an oil based solvent and in chemistry like dissolves like. Aluminum is a group 3 metal, using water based detergeants will react with the natural oxide layer in aluminums and can degrade and etch the metal in part due to the alkalinity. Use oil based solvents only and preferably ones safe for nitrile and viton rubber compounds and plastics. 2-butoxyethanol is safe and comes publicly available in Berrymans. Or there is mineral spirits or Seafoam. The key here is to not use water based solutions period.
@@kineticmoto8813 I agree that oil based is optimal. Two things to clarify though; 1) Not everyone wants or can use an oil based cleaner, and in that case the SG Precision Aircraft (at proper dilution) is a good alternative. 2) Look closely at Berrymans SDS sheets of their various products, very few contain 2-butoxyethanol (and in small percentages) and some that do include it are water based. I prefer oil based solvents/cleaners like mineral sprits, Crown PSC-1000, CRC 05067, etc.
I clean my carbs with the Berryman cleaner to get the nasty stuff and rinse in very hot water and then
re-clean the parts through the ultrasonic cleaner using a ratio of 20% to 30% industrial simplegreen or vinegar to distilled water, then rinse with scalding hot water.
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Hey Shane. Three years later have you settled on a solution for aluminum? I just got an ultrasonic cleaner and tried Zep citrus degreaser after seeing a video. It was awful! left horrible blotching on test parts after 15 mins. I then tried ph-neutral Palmolive ultra dish soap. Much less blotching, but not perfect...
Simple Green "D" must have the D for aluminum. I've many things but someone had some good believable results with aluminum using this and we have too. I still think the biggest thing is to was with water right after removing.
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I've been using %100 mineral spirits in mine. The crud would settle to bottom then you place all old fluids over a year or so of use in a plastic milk jug then let sit so all old crap will settle to bottom then leave the crud in bottom and pour good stuff back in and top of sonic cleaner with some new mineral spirits.
I will try 100% and see how it works. Love it in my parts washer...
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do you still use mineral spirits ? if yes at what temperature
@@eric69parent I do. I use it in my parts washer which is at all temps depends on the day of the year. In my ultra sonic cleaner (cheap one from harbor freight) it doesn't have a temperature adjustment. So I use it with the heat on in that to and it'll get hot enough to burn you. Hope that helps. 😊
A strong mix of Pine Sol and water does a good job on my small engine carbs
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Would this work for a grandfather clock in brass lacquered?
@@squidben5780 worth a try, a sonic cleaner does excellent on many things, pine sol mix in a sonic cleaner should be great
I haven’t heard of the D. I use Simple Green and Dawn dish washing liquid. Super Clean is hard on aluminum. Simple Green will leave it black if you use too much or leave it too long.
Good to know...the "D" was new to me as well but I'm super happy with it.
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Awesome cleaner is the best cheap cleaner I’ve used and it’s not corrosive.
Agreed
Just drop a little steel mesh bowl in the drain.. depending on the drain hole you might be able to use one from a faucet head
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I have been using mine for 4 years as a service. I use dawn dish soap with lemi shine to adjust the ph.
For tougher grime I use a citrus cleaner
Acidity is what in my trials has darkened aluminum.
Try using a glass jar for small parts, and let me know if you find a difference. I found the plastic absorbs ultrasonicsonic waves, thus transfering less sonic energy to the parts needing to be cleaned. (Imo)
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Thanks for the tips! I plan on experimenting with glass too. Guess I better load on some spaghetti!
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Why people think it’s ok to use water based detergeants on metal parts I’ll never know... oil based solvents or 2-Butoxyethanol is the proper way to clean metal parts including carburetors. Used in the aerospace industry and still safe on plastics and certain rubber compounds. Berrymans solution contains 2-Butoxyethanol or you can use Seafoam if you don’t have access to commercial grade solvents. And DO NOT use the Gunk brand carb cleaner it will destroy plastics and rubbers.
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I use gasoline, cheap and extremely effective, I have a safe area away from the building outside with a fire extinguisher for gas nearby, it is safe on carbs and does a hell of a good job cleaning them, they will look brand new, after a cycle I shut the power off to the machine and then approach it, compared to other products on the shelf gas is the way to go price per gallon wise, it's safe and effective in my experience on carburetors just exercise extreme caution for obvious reasons.
Thanks for sharing. We have heard of two of you using gasoline. I think most people just are not comfortable with it. And as you stated very well, you must use extreme caution and its not very convenient for a shop to move it in and out of the building or to have to monitor it. The product I mainly use is very affordable and works for multiple cleaning cycles. BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT....I'm soooooo curious how fuel would do...🤔 My problem is I could never risk doing a video on it as some fool would blow themselves up and blame youtube...lol
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I hope you realize the ultrasonic cleaner atomizes and heats up liquids! It's precisely how some humidifiers and fog machines work. The transducers are piezoelectric and can arc even when not plugged in. A fire isn't what you should be worried about. How about being engulfed in a fireball?
What's the minimum size you'd recommend for a set of 4 carbs?
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I use a product called super clean. It seems to clean pretty well.
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Does it get parts super clean?
I use Dawn dish soap..
Nice thank you. I tried that with a gun and jewelry. Did a nice job but took longer on those as compared to "D" I found.
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Before the neutering of carb cleaners the glorious Hydro Seal by Gunk (NOT the feeble Hydro-Seal II shit) used methylene chloride and it was magnificent. Today you can still buy methylene chloride as powder coat stripper but it can only be sold to businesses so you'll need to be one or have a bro who will order it and send a copy of their W9 tax form. It is not cheap but it works very, very well. Wear gloves and use in a well ventilated shop environment. Keep the container sealed.
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Steve's Small Engine Saloon uses gasoline in a jar with regular distilled water in the tank. Seems pretty much unbeatable.
I've just been using straight white vinegar in my little Branson ultrasonic cleaner.
Another vote for white vinegar!
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We also tested everything from the cheapest solution to the most expensive. And some of it is Extremely expensive. But we did not see a great enough Improvement per the cost of the top rated ultrasonic tank Solutions. So we stuck with something that you can get in just about any normal store or online. And it works great, you can use about between 2% - 10% mix ratio, depending on how bad the item is your working on, but it does fine. And we use ours all the time.
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Distilled water, white vinegar and a bit of dawn clear dish liquid.
Interesting! First to recommend white vinegar...I must try...I'll put a live q/a together and invite you...
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No no no, first off vinegar is highly acidic it does react with aluminum whilst it doesn’t rust, it does etch it and can leave a residue and corrode the natural oxide layer. Second DO NOT USE water based solvents on group 3 based metals. Like dissolves like in chemistry. Use an oil based solvent only.
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@@How2Wrench it works they have a whole line of different solutions to safely get the certain debris, dirt, grease, white rust, calcium deposits, brass cleaner etc.. all work extremely well.
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