As a reputable collision repair tech, that bodge repair makes me wince. Repairs like this give the trade a bad name. I spent years honing my craft, now I tend to work on specialist on Aluminum Bonded Chassis and Carbon tubs, but even with the most simple jobs I won't take shortcuts. Thank you for showing the buying public the clues to look for!
My dad had a friend in college who bought a Cadillac that was advertised as a "Sunday driver" -- garage kept, elderly owned, etc. It looked good an untrained eye. He took it through a car wash and body filler started flying off.
Oh that simple trick with the magnet saved me from buying a crashed / badly repaired car, there were so much filler thank you. I subscribed, keep doing this awesome videos :)
Good video, I've worked for an Mot station and body shop, I think part of the problem is these insurance companies selling these cat C and Cat D cars (i know they've changed now) to people and they get botched up and put back on road, Some general public are unaware of say a vehicle that's been say scratched down the side they seem to think you can do it in an hour with a spray can for £150 when in fact its at least a few days of a job and its £800, These are good video's to show the type of repairs you get when you pay peanuts for body repairs, Keep up the good work
Repairing with filler is ok, preferably a small amount but it is not always necessary to renew a panel just because it damaged. While this is a poor repair and there are many more major faults it is not just the use of filler to repair that is a fault. Filler is used by professionals to finish a repair for cosmetic purposes getting the final shape right and covering welded panel joints etc. I worked in the motor body repair trade for 32 years as a sprayer and panel beater and then worked as a motor engineer to 12 years with a major insurance company. So I do know a little bit about his subject.
@@ItaliaAutos How much is too much? 1/8 of and inch 1/4 of and inch half and inch? ot metric 6 mm 10 mm 15 mm 2.5 cm? I say it depends on the vehicle and the need, personally I have saved panels that could not be obtained from the manufacturer and yes I have used filler sometimes up to 1/4 " sometimes putting a new panel on is not an option. Sometimes the Insurance company will incist on a repair not replacement. I have seen badly fitted panels that were new poor fit and incorrectly fitted. Which is worse a lot of filler or incorrectly fitted new panel?
That was quite entertaining. I have never used a chisel on a car. For your next video, you should take a block of marble and chisel away everything that is not an Alfa Romeo.
Remembering friends Alfsuds from the eighties, I always assume at least 25% of any Alfa Romeo is body filler.. If the car was over four years old and the arches weren't rusted, they were body filler.
To be fair mate that car wasant to bad iv seen cars with entire roofs pop riveted on and cars made from a half dozen different cars . I think you would have a great career as a sculptor mate with that hammer an chisel action 😂 keep up the good work 👍
@@ItaliaAutos yes I saw the white care mate it was pretty bad for sure .My father was looking at a car a few years ago an Audi A4 on the face off it the car looked perfect my father had the car for the weekend to try it out before buying it and I called to his house the day before he was going to buy the car I remember it well a wet Sunday evening in November he was sitting at the kitchen table making a list off things he wanted on the car before he would buy it a tow bar mudflaps I knew the garage that was selling the car they had a bit off a bad reputation for selling damaged cars in the past so I decided to have a quick look at the car it was dark out so I took my torch and straight away I could see different colours off paint the car was blue but I could see red paint under a wheel arch then I looked inside and I could see that the head lining was hanging down at the back a bit so I looked inside it with my torch and shock horror the roof was green inside then I took a cover off a roof pillar to find pop rivets someone pop riveted the roof on and then hammered it in on the outside and filled over it so next day I had a word with the garage for trying to sell my father a deathtrap I won't repeat what I said to them it's a mad world out there
@@ItaliaAutos love em all. Proper tonic for this covid crap. Dont get fed up posting pal, I'm an hgv fitter and no one seems interested in fixing or seeing how stuff works anymore. Cheers Niel, proper.
While it might have some dodgy areas its hardly a death trap. Dont get what his fixation against using filler is in moderation. I'd rather have a car with that small amount of filler on than one that's had a whole rear quarter replaced as long as the paint job was better.
@@lee2217 because replacing a quarter involves cutting much further into the structure of the vehicle. I'm not against replacing 1/4s, I've done plenty myself but if it can be repaired to a decent standard without changing it is akways better
Bought a fiesta off a dealer ,he said its had a bump but repaired properly,he did not have the log book,this would show cat s it was biggest bodge l have ever seen,wrong air con rad,air con pipes missing,remove headlight to find bent twisted metal front crash bar two bolts instead of 4 ,side air bags cut out ,bolts missing wood screws used ,it had just been mot tested one headlight out one headlight beam lighting up the sky this had been moted over the phone no tester would have passed this,
Plenty of people just want the car stuck back together as cheaply as possible and flog it on or hand back at the end of its contract. Too many lazy contract hire companies and motor traders don't bother checking as the hand back / px is just a can being kicked down the road. Some other mothers problem.
Hi me again thanks for the prompt reply any idea when your going to start work on the 155 I would be very interested in any content as I have a wide body 1747 TS 16v cf1 engine in Nord blue I think mine is the lowest mileage one in the UK @ 37k and you wouldn't have a genuine front splitter for one in your goody bin by any chance ?
What? Taken off the road because of some filler? You are exaggerating and scaring non-car people for nothing. You can almost say that whoever owned that car helped the planet by recycling and using some filler instead of getting new panels or a new car lol.
Cat N is non structural.....Cat S is structural ..... these cars are cheaper than non cat for the very reason they have been repaired, everyone knows you will have filler in a dented panel? because a car has body filler and sprayed by someone who can't paint properly, it does not mean the car is a death trap ? you wilk be very lucky to find any vehicle in a body repair shop that does not have a skim of filler in it, probably more, these are category vehicles that have been repaired ..... you keep saying it's had damage ..... that's obvious, but what was it, Cat N ... or Cat S ..... if Cat S usually heavier and structural, but Cat N is light only ... no structural whatsoever, and if it's not structural .... it's NOT dangerous.
Would it pass an mot could the suspension be misaligned probably is then would probably be unsafe wants to be off the road in all fairness who really would want to drive that heap around 🤔
You've just undone someone's 5 minutes of hard work ;-)
It just goes to show there are still a lot of cars roaming about that have been badly repaired and that the cowboys still exist.
As a reputable collision repair tech, that bodge repair makes me wince.
Repairs like this give the trade a bad name. I spent years honing my craft, now I tend to work on specialist on Aluminum Bonded Chassis and Carbon tubs, but even with the most simple jobs I won't take shortcuts.
Thank you for showing the buying public the clues to look for!
yeah you might want to watch the white gt video did.
My dad had a friend in college who bought a Cadillac that was advertised as a "Sunday driver" -- garage kept, elderly owned, etc. It looked good an untrained eye.
He took it through a car wash and body filler started flying off.
Oh that simple trick with the magnet saved me from buying a crashed / badly repaired car, there were so much filler thank you. I subscribed, keep doing this awesome videos :)
You are welcome!
Always remember to take a hammer and chisel to the car you’re looking to buy to check if it’s had any body filler 🤣
its in my vehicle check list kit already.
Italia Autos that and a socket set to completely disassemble the back end to check the rear crash bar
Good video, I've worked for an Mot station and body shop, I think part of the problem is these insurance companies selling these cat C and Cat D cars (i know they've changed now) to people and they get botched up and put back on road, Some general public are unaware of say a vehicle that's been say scratched down the side they seem to think you can do it in an hour with a spray can for £150 when in fact its at least a few days of a job and its £800, These are good video's to show the type of repairs you get when you pay peanuts for body repairs, Keep up the good work
And everyone on RUclips 'flipping' these old shitters!
Repairing with filler is ok, preferably a small amount but it is not always necessary to renew a panel just because it damaged. While this is a poor repair and there are many more major faults it is not just the use of filler to repair that is a fault. Filler is used by professionals to finish a repair for cosmetic purposes getting the final shape right and covering welded panel joints etc. I worked in the motor body repair trade for 32 years as a sprayer and panel beater and then worked as a motor engineer to 12 years with a major insurance company. So I do know a little bit about his subject.
Yep perfectly fine. But this much filler is to much
@@ItaliaAutos How much is too much? 1/8 of and inch 1/4 of and inch half and inch? ot metric 6 mm 10 mm 15 mm 2.5 cm? I say it depends on the vehicle and the need, personally I have saved panels that could not be obtained from the manufacturer and yes I have used filler sometimes up to 1/4 " sometimes putting a new panel on is not an option. Sometimes the Insurance company will incist on a repair not replacement. I have seen badly fitted panels that were new poor fit and incorrectly fitted. Which is worse a lot of filler or incorrectly fitted new panel?
That was quite entertaining. I have never used a chisel on a car.
For your next video, you should take a block of marble and chisel away everything that is not an Alfa Romeo.
its always quite therapeutic. lol
Man, them scratches are painfull to watch
There are some dodgy bastards out there... Thanks for the vid, very informative. :)
I spotted a fiat coupè...and the other red car, is that a glorious 155? By the way, keep up your great work man. Cheers.
That poor G 😭, at least there were some good bits that lived on.
its gone on to save that silver one at least.
@@ItaliaAutos Good work, bad, bad 'repair' on that one. Good channel BTW ❤ Alfa
@@saintfunny cheers
Remembering friends Alfsuds from the eighties, I always assume at least 25% of any Alfa Romeo is body filler.. If the car was over four years old and the arches weren't rusted, they were body filler.
it's nice seeing you destroying a bad repaired car ;D
It’s all these contract hire drivers repairing their cars hastily before handing them back at the end of their lease term
To be fair mate that car wasant to bad iv seen cars with entire roofs pop riveted on and cars made from a half dozen different cars . I think you would have a great career as a sculptor mate with that hammer an chisel action 😂 keep up the good work 👍
ive seen worse also but thought this would make a decent video. check out the "White GT video". that was my worst. thanks neil
@@ItaliaAutos yes I saw the white care mate it was pretty bad for sure .My father was looking at a car a few years ago an Audi A4 on the face off it the car looked perfect my father had the car for the weekend to try it out before buying it and I called to his house the day before he was going to buy the car I remember it well a wet Sunday evening in November he was sitting at the kitchen table making a list off things he wanted on the car before he would buy it a tow bar mudflaps I knew the garage that was selling the car they had a bit off a bad reputation for selling damaged cars in the past so I decided to have a quick look at the car it was dark out so I took my torch and straight away I could see different colours off paint the car was blue but I could see red paint under a wheel arch then I looked inside and I could see that the head lining was hanging down at the back a bit so I looked inside it with my torch and shock horror the roof was green inside then I took a cover off a roof pillar to find pop rivets someone pop riveted the roof on and then hammered it in on the outside and filled over it so next day I had a word with the garage for trying to sell my father a deathtrap I won't repeat what I said to them it's a mad world out there
What strength of the magnet do you recommend (2kg powerforce etc.)?
How are these MOT'd? This and the GT are absolutely horribly fixed and you could tell that from few metres away..
Yet from a few feet away she looked ok. Its amazing to see what extra work is required to complete a bodge repair like the filler along the rear door.
wasnt very nice close up.
I knew about the magnet/filler tip, but demonstrating the larger magnets uselessness was ace, and I'm an old fart!
thanks for watching.
@@ItaliaAutos love em all. Proper tonic for this covid crap. Dont get fed up posting pal, I'm an hgv fitter and no one seems interested in fixing or seeing how stuff works anymore. Cheers Niel, proper.
While it might have some dodgy areas its hardly a death trap. Dont get what his fixation against using filler is in moderation. I'd rather have a car with that small amount of filler on than one that's had a whole rear quarter replaced as long as the paint job was better.
Exactly
Why are you against having a rear quarter replaced?
@@lee2217 because replacing a quarter involves cutting much further into the structure of the vehicle. I'm not against replacing 1/4s, I've done plenty myself but if it can be repaired to a decent standard without changing it is akways better
Wish you were nearer to me I'd let u service my Gtv v6 regularly!
Love the red 155.
Still, doesnt deserve
to be scrapped...
I have seen worse but anyone with a conscience would sell that to anyone
Bought a fiesta off a dealer ,he said its had a bump but repaired properly,he did not have the log book,this would show cat s it was biggest bodge l have ever seen,wrong air con rad,air con pipes missing,remove headlight to find bent twisted metal front crash bar two bolts instead of 4 ,side air bags cut out ,bolts missing wood screws used ,it had just been mot tested one headlight out one headlight beam lighting up the sky this had been moted over the phone no tester would have passed this,
Wish you where here is Suriname to help me out with my gt
don't alfas come like that from the factory?
Should of had a new rear quarter, back panel and at least two good second hand doors
Arthur Matthews would of been a lot easier that way.
What i don't get is that when the customer comes back and collects this car he accepts work like this.
Mates rates
@@ItaliaAutos Yes but come on, this is rediculous. If it looks that bad on the video it's even worse in person
Plenty of people just want the car stuck back together as cheaply as possible and flog it on or hand back at the end of its contract. Too many lazy contract hire companies and motor traders don't bother checking as the hand back / px is just a can being kicked down the road. Some other mothers problem.
Thanks for this info!!
You bet!
Hi me again thanks for the prompt reply any idea when your going to start work on the 155 I would be very interested in any content as I
have a wide body 1747 TS 16v cf1 engine in Nord blue I think mine is the lowest mileage one in the UK @ 37k and you wouldn't have a genuine front splitter for one in your goody bin by any chance ?
Its bottom of the pile.
I think my 147 is over 😲🙈 No! ..at 165 get the strange sound rrrgrrr at 5500 Let the gas go..pfff
Thanks ofcourse not love here Just bad Day. ...she is old ..butt she houlds. .baby 😊😆😉
WHERE'S the GT video?
MrDieselakias in the links towards the end of the video.
Must have taken hours to fill and sand that amount of filler !
Yep. A few days by hand lol
Crikey. Almost as bad as the white GT you got off the road
Every fresh paint in 6 months looks like shit
Freeky deeky
What? Taken off the road because of some filler? You are exaggerating and scaring non-car people for nothing. You can almost say that whoever owned that car helped the planet by recycling and using some filler instead of getting new panels or a new car lol.
I couldn't sell as car in this condition. If your happy with it that's fine but 90% of people wouldn't.
All that filler make the car heavier and probably won’t track rite
its scrap who cares
Cat N is non structural.....Cat S is structural ..... these cars are cheaper than non cat for the very reason they have been repaired, everyone knows you will have filler in a dented panel? because a car has body filler and sprayed by someone who can't paint properly, it does not mean the car is a death trap ? you wilk be very lucky to find any vehicle in a body repair shop that does not have a skim of filler in it, probably more, these are category vehicles that have been repaired ..... you keep saying it's had damage ..... that's obvious, but what was it, Cat N ... or Cat S ..... if Cat S usually heavier and structural, but Cat N is light only ... no structural whatsoever, and if it's not structural .... it's NOT dangerous.
Would it pass an mot could the suspension be misaligned probably is then would probably be unsafe wants to be off the road in all fairness who really would want to drive that heap around 🤔