The Incredibles: The Art of Supervillain Monologues

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    Pixar's The Incredibles pokes fun at comic book superhero tropes like capes, costumes, and, of course, how a supervillain will stop in his tracks to monologue at the hero for no discernible reason. Why do villains do this? Let's analyze the history and narrative function of the supervillain monologue throughout comics and movies to explain why Syndrome's speech towards Mr. Incredible is actually a brilliant creative tool!
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  • @NerdSyncProductions
    @NerdSyncProductions  5 лет назад +141

    Watch our video about the science of Captain America and how we can create super soldiers RIGHT NOW! ruclips.net/video/f5BKn_lrA6I/видео.html

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 5 лет назад +2

      *Eighteen-hundredth one to comment*
      OH HELL YEAH, WE ALL FAZED IN THAT!!!!

    • @Terrekain
      @Terrekain 5 лет назад

      Dragon Ball Z. I swear, each episode is nothing but monologues, even "action monologues" in which lots of sparks fly but the plot doesn't get anywhere.

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 5 лет назад +1

      NerdSync
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    • @adamkalb1
      @adamkalb1 4 года назад +2

      I must say, it's amazing how The Incredibles showcased both sides of the monologue argument. Supervillains shouldn't give monologues because that just gives the hero enough time to get away, but at the same time, supervillains should give monologues because when done well, they can tell us plenty about their character, how they became evil, and motives for their plans. November 11, 2019, 1:40am

    • @firelight8565
      @firelight8565 3 года назад

      First of all, I appreciate your argument. I never thought I would be changing my mind about what I saw as seemingly silly writing.
      To add to your thoughts, I think part of monologuing is also a sense of justification. In Syndrome's case, he has clearly held on to the pain of disappointment provided by Mr. Incredible. If he can get his former hero to understand his intentions, then perhaps Syndrome believes that he can move on and be at peace, instead of being stuck on this never-ending quest for revenge.

  • @GlitterixYT
    @GlitterixYT 6 лет назад +1741

    Easily my favorite line in The Incredibles is from Syndrome himself:
    "And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll sell my inventions so that everyone can be superheroes. *Everyone* can be super! And when everyone's super... *no one* will be."
    It's just such a unique and different villain scheme that I absolutely love it.

    • @Bandit_King_YT
      @Bandit_King_YT 5 лет назад +31

      I'd have to recommend the supercarlinbrothers video on why syndrome is the best Pixar villain.

    • @marxel4444
      @marxel4444 5 лет назад +29

      looks at the anime "my hero academia"
      didnt work out that way buddy :D

    • @DTux5249
      @DTux5249 5 лет назад +69

      Yeah, flips the normal villain goal of wanting solitary power over all.
      He wants to humble himself in terms of power

    • @cherriomax783
      @cherriomax783 5 лет назад +40

      I was just a kid when I first saw The Incredibles in theater and somehow this is the one line that really stuck with me.

    • @andrewdubya1380
      @andrewdubya1380 5 лет назад +27

      When I was a kid, I thought he meant that by introducing widespread artificial superpowers he could immediately ramp up the destructive potential of simple disagreements to all out war and end humanity once and for all, or at least severely cripple it a la Rapture in Bioshock.

  • @TheGuardDuck
    @TheGuardDuck 6 лет назад +1504

    Why didn't you bring up Megamind?
    OH YOU'RE A VILLAIN ALL RIGHT, JUST NOT A SUPER ONE!
    Oh yeah? What's the difference?
    *PRESENTATION!!!*

    • @8-bitsarda747
      @8-bitsarda747 5 лет назад +134

      oh yeah, and Megamind nails the presentation all the time

    • @Thomas20Smith
      @Thomas20Smith 5 лет назад +149

      Why Megamind never gets the recognition it deserves

    • @johnmartin4119
      @johnmartin4119 5 лет назад +95

      Unfortunately Megamind came out along side Despicable Me and got lumped in with that similar to how Ants got lumped in with Bugs Life. But I do agree that that is an awesome flick and I hope it at least grows in cult status

    • @marekp6858
      @marekp6858 5 лет назад +30

      **Welcome to the Jungle in the distance**

    • @92edoy
      @92edoy 4 года назад +6

      @@marekp6858 *we got fun and gaames!*

  • @kitsune.u4ea
    @kitsune.u4ea 6 лет назад +1262

    it started with dr doofenshmirtz

    • @Mary-zj9jz
      @Mary-zj9jz 5 лет назад +168

      in the TRI STATE area

    • @nickatkinson5219
      @nickatkinson5219 5 лет назад +174

      It all started when he was a boy back in druselstein...

    • @stephenahern
      @stephenahern 5 лет назад +122

      And had to stand outside all day and night as a lawn gnome.

    • @VitaminCBable
      @VitaminCBable 5 лет назад +69

      HoodedFox ah yes, the doonkleberries....

    • @GVLLIC
      @GVLLIC 5 лет назад +106

      Especially during his birth, when his parents failed to show up.

  • @dominomasked
    @dominomasked 5 лет назад +680

    One of the most interesting moments in The Incredibles is when Helen tells her children that the bad guys on the island aren't going to be like the ones on TV, that they aren't going to show restraint. In an alternate universe where both the heroes and villains understand monologuing to basically be a natural law of certain kinds of conflicts, it impressed me that they took time to point out specifically that not all violence, even in that world, is treated with that kind of reverence, and to reiterate to any children in the audience that their first obligation in any conflict is to their own safety and the safety of other children. It plays into the roster of heroes that probably got killed without the ceremonial monologue, humanizing the heroes as people who can be cannon fodder in larger conflicts like anyone else, the same way Helen and the children getting unceremoniously shot out of the sky does. Helen's entire side of the story helps keep the Grand Titanic Struggle rooted in reminders that the difference between heroes and villains is that heroes care about their fallout, even when the struggle is personal.

    • @masterbard
      @masterbard 5 лет назад +38

      This is what made the movie so great. the henchmen shot to kill even if they were children, and they were actually quite competent.

    • @spinozilla2421
      @spinozilla2421 4 года назад +1

      I mean villains in the tv show are technically the same, only difference is that hero might win the situation

    • @zsu-23-4shilka2
      @zsu-23-4shilka2 4 года назад +4

      Juan Quiceno competent & *sadistic*

    • @datboiashy2957
      @datboiashy2957 3 года назад +2

      Then they ruin her character and the Incredible franchise with Incredible 2 😂

    • @Twisted_Code
      @Twisted_Code 2 года назад +1

      @@datboiashy2957 sad fact about movies is that the sequel is rarely as good as the original. The main exception is cases where the original sucked so bad that an average movie, even with any worldbuilding mistakes inherent to the franchise's universe, would be superior.

  • @leviphipps2462
    @leviphipps2462 6 лет назад +4022

    In regards to the monologues' theatrics, there is a much better example of this in the third act of Megamind (a criminally underrated movie.)
    Megamind: "You may be a villain, but not a super one."
    Hal: "What's the difference?"
    Megamind: "Presentation!"

    • @xaviervargas4098
      @xaviervargas4098 6 лет назад +329

      Levi Phipps
      Yo I was thinking the exact same thing! I was actually kind of expecting that clip when he was talking about theatrics.

    • @TheGoldenFighter
      @TheGoldenFighter 6 лет назад +64

      Really, underrated? I know it's not as well liked as the others but ok. The opening of it is really sad.

    • @Soncikuro
      @Soncikuro 6 лет назад +314

      ''Persentation!'' says megamind as he comes out of a shining gigantic version of his head made out of floating robots, while in the middle of manmade storm clouds as ''Welcome to the jungle'' plays in the background. ruclips.net/video/dy2zB8bLSpk/видео.html

    • @fidget0227
      @fidget0227 6 лет назад +49

      That’s a dialogue!

    • @jeckdaright
      @jeckdaright 6 лет назад +151

      I Agree Megamind put on a show Titan just destroyed. There's bad guys then there's villains, there's a style to it.

  • @SylvEdu
    @SylvEdu 6 лет назад +1226

    You touched on this, but I think you missed out on the obvious. Everyone has a natural desire to be understood. Heros reinforce the status quo and uphold the ideals of society, so they are already widely understood. Villains seek to change the status quo and are marginalized by society. A good villain doesn't think of themselves as evil -- the monologue is their chance to justify their actions and explain why they are right and everyone else is wrong. For one-on-one monologues, the hero represents society. If the villain can convince the hero, then society joins him. That's why they can't strike the death blow; they are holding out for recognition, understanding, allegiance, and affirmation from society's chosen representative.

    • @VitaminCBable
      @VitaminCBable 5 лет назад +70

      I'm not so sure. I think ego is a bigger factor. He has to PROVE he's better. Plenty of heroes want to change society, villains desire to superimpose their own beliefs....

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 5 лет назад +54

      Everyone is the hero of their own story ... even the villain

    • @_Aarius_
      @_Aarius_ 5 лет назад +77

      It depends on the villain. If the villain thinks society is flawed, then you have the original comment, because they are changing society. If the villain is trying to exploit a flawed society, you have B because they think they are better than that society.

    • @Keyce0013
      @Keyce0013 5 лет назад +3

      Destiny 2, Ghaul: "DO YOU SEE ME NOW!?"

    • @DJFlare84
      @DJFlare84 5 лет назад +10

      I wouldn't say that's EVERY villain's motive, but I'd definitely say I agree with you that a good villain doesn't consider himself one, so this SHOULD be their motive.

  • @eskewroberts7663
    @eskewroberts7663 5 лет назад +490

    if you wanna talk about villianous theatrics, then you need to talk about the greatest villian turned hero ever...
    ... Megamind
    fight me

    • @elvis4868
      @elvis4868 5 лет назад +14

      the best movie i saw in my childhoodヽ(•̀ω•́ )ゝ

    • @Mrhellslayerz
      @Mrhellslayerz 5 лет назад +17

      I can't fight when I've been beaten before I can make an argument.

    • @FixyFlow
      @FixyFlow 4 года назад +1

      Jack Lant That’s confusing.

    • @heavenlytoned5998
      @heavenlytoned5998 4 года назад

      You mean fight *with* you?

    • @silverdays2909
      @silverdays2909 4 года назад

      He is not a villain, he is a hero

  • @carmena.gonzalezrios8372
    @carmena.gonzalezrios8372 6 лет назад +262

    Heath Ledger’s *Joker* has one of the best monologues:
    “ _You_ _have_ _nothing_ _to_ _threat_ _me_ _with,_ _nothing_ _to_ _do_ _with_ _all_ _your_ _strength_ ”

    • @markrasmussen7430
      @markrasmussen7430 5 лет назад +17

      That wasn't a monologue, though; Batman was questioning him directly, and he had the tactical upper hand.

    • @diegouy8277
      @diegouy8277 5 лет назад +4

      @@markrasmussen7430 yeah was about to say. Its not Monologue lol.

    • @skymanxd6366
      @skymanxd6366 2 года назад

      @@markrasmussen7430 “If your good at something, never do it for free”

  • @sinvector8020
    @sinvector8020 6 лет назад +433

    Megamind said it best:
    "Oh, you're a villain alright, just not a super one."
    "What's the difference?"
    "PRESENTATION!"

  • @sub0sandwich32
    @sub0sandwich32 6 лет назад +253

    I always forget the Incredibles is set in the 1960s

    • @shoresean1237
      @shoresean1237 6 лет назад +56

      I dunno. I always felt it was in a kind of retro-looking present-day.

    • @TheAngryXenite
      @TheAngryXenite 6 лет назад +52

      Rob Morris The newspaper that Bob is reading at the beginning of the movie is dated 1963. However, the tech is significantly more advanced. Remember though, this is a universe of supers, so the inspiration is clearly less about it being modern day and more that it's what the old comics portrayed the world as being like, with tremendous technological feats alongside the protectors of humanity. It's kind of like how Fallout is based on the future as viewed by the 1950s, but through a more cynical modern lens where all the optimism and progress is unsustainable and hollow. I mean, people like Syndrome surely must have existed before, and it's not like they were all evil (and even evil ones like Syndrome still have reasons to do things beneficial to the common good so long as it benefits their goals somehow), so that could explain where the schizo tech comes from.

    • @shoresean1237
      @shoresean1237 5 лет назад +5

      There's precedent for this in the comics that inspired these films. Old Marvel and DC issues certainly had tech in them, often casually introduced and forgotten after, that could bring newspaper strip characters to life, raise the dead and tri-environment vehicles.
      Whatever the dates, I just love the whole look. Their sunken big-screen was still a cathode-ray.

    • @sarschnooz8839
      @sarschnooz8839 5 лет назад +4

      Well, two of the supers in edna's monologue died during the late fifties, and as superheroes were effectively banned 15 years before the present in incredibles, they had to be at least in the seventies.

    • @sarschnooz8839
      @sarschnooz8839 5 лет назад

      NM, pretty sure I'm wrong.

  • @Laezar1
    @Laezar1 6 лет назад +209

    Monologues make sense. But like all tropes they are overused, which means used even when they don't make sense.
    If a vilain doesn't care about the hero and is only driven by their goal then they shouldn't be monologuing. Monologues only make sense when the character does have a superiority complex or when there is an emotional link between the vilain and the hero. Monologues that happen out of those situations do break suspension of disbelief thougn in my opinion.

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 5 лет назад +7

      Overusing a trope makes it a cliche

  • @KoongYe
    @KoongYe 3 года назад +11

    Villian monologues actually feel authentic because that's what everyone would do when they become a villain themselves. Out of hope for recognition.

  • @wickedcrayon6022
    @wickedcrayon6022 6 лет назад +179

    I have always thought that a villainous monologue would be incredibly cathartic. I think most people can probably relate to the feeling of frustration that comes when you feel strongly about something and you just aren’t being listened to. The pressure builds and builds until you just need to let it out. A good villainous monologue would be fantastic for that. Imagine having a captive audience that has no choice but to listen to you rant about all the crap that pisses you off. It doesn’t even matter that they don’t agree or care really. They have to listen! I’d love to lock everyone in management where I work into a room and monologue the hell out of them😂

    • @carloguerrero6583
      @carloguerrero6583 6 лет назад +3

      saving this coment for later don't mind meee

    • @jonsnor4313
      @jonsnor4313 6 лет назад +12

      It can show that the villain and the hero are not so different, just in their methods, solifying the heroes hard chouces and morals as important.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +22

      A comic author named Roland Hansson argues that villains explaining their plans to captured heroes is essential because if they discuss their plans with other villains, they might steal them, and heroes are the only other people who have the expertise to criticise and find flaws in their plans.

    • @Mama_Badazh
      @Mama_Badazh 6 лет назад +6

      David Wührer Not all monologues have to be about their plans, though. I've found that some great monologues are describing their own twisted/flawed philosophy or their own world view. In one case, back when I played City of Heroes, there was a villain monologue that wasn't either of those. The villain character was an oddball among his fellows and had been captured by another in his organization. During the mission, when you came upon him and freed him, he aided you in trying to get through a dangerous area and at the end he divulged information about the person who'd set it all up.
      The monologue ended something like this: "Oh, and I seem to be missing a map to her area of operations. Wouldn't it be a terrible shame if a hero happened upon it in time to foil her plans? If she fails in those plans, well, Arachnos is founded on survival of the fittest. If the hero beat her, then she wasn't very fit, was she?"
      He couldn't overtly make a move to do anything against the plotting villain, so he simply ensured that the enterprising hero had the needed information to deal with her in his stead.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +4

      *Mama B*
      That is clever.
      I like the idea that self-declared heroes are pawns in a game played by villains.

  • @vanderengland5775
    @vanderengland5775 6 лет назад +182

    Nah, phineas and ferb is the best mocking of super villain monologues. It’s allegedly a kids show, but it’s so meta and awesome
    EDIT: Specifically, the villain, doctor doofenshmirtz, continually talks about how important monologues are.

    • @f.i.r.e.5119
      @f.i.r.e.5119 5 лет назад +17

      Yeah, they're important. Peter the Panda actually ended up kind of deserting his nemesis because of lack of communication and specificity in his schemes.

    • @josh44026
      @josh44026 5 лет назад +2

      All Disney.

  • @doofs
    @doofs 5 лет назад +406

    Remember that time a Japanese David Bowie look alike talks to a middle schooler for a solid 2 minutes about his personal life and evening routine because the kid stole his sandwich (and then proceeds to blow him up)?
    Yeah JoJo is pretty wild.

    • @belimbingpanas8724
      @belimbingpanas8724 5 лет назад +48

      Yea bizarre indeed

    • @bunnizamy2201
      @bunnizamy2201 5 лет назад +30

      Or when he doesnt just exploded the hero bc he felt uncomfortable with his socks and had to put them again in the right way?

    • @diobrando1545
      @diobrando1545 5 лет назад +5

      You dont steal the sandwich from a bowie!

    • @poofy7732
      @poofy7732 5 лет назад +5

      *I got a boner*

    • @carlosmagallanes7698
      @carlosmagallanes7698 5 лет назад

      Oof

  • @starfyredragon
    @starfyredragon 5 лет назад +180

    The Cape: "Now that you've caught me, what's your evil plan?"
    The Threat: "Evil? You jump to some conclusions there."
    The Cape: "Huh?"
    The Threat: "Have you ever asked yourself why the 'villian' monologues? Why they tell you everything they're doing?"
    The Cape: "Because you're arrogant, right?"
    The Threat: "There is that sometimes... but... it's because WE are actually the good guys. Think about it. You come in, swinging fists, beating people down, smashing people around like some kind of street thug. You beat them in submission in the ultimate display of 'might makes right', a world that strongarms people into obeying, and after you've beaten them to a pulp, you throw them to an oligarchial system that doesn't care about making the world better; only that the status quo isn't disrupted. Do you know how much strength of personality, and internal drive it takes to pull yourself out of the norm, to stand up, and do something, even if people will hate you for it? And then, on top of that, when we've sacrificed so much already, rebuilt ourselves from the ground up, we find someone is actually attacking our place of operations, a home invader if you will, rather than just pull out our shotgun and shoot, instead, we care. We try to peacefully capture instead of kill the intruder. And we explain what we're doing; to prove that things don't have to be solved with violence, that we can talk things out. You never see it, but we 'Villians' have one thing you don't: Moral superiority. You really should take some time to think about who the Villian is here. And that's exactly why I'm going to walk away right now... to leave you with your thoughts. To give you a chance to think it over. Sure, you might try to break out, but that's the risk I take for trying for a more peaceful route. And if I can't lead by example, then I'm no better than you."

    • @Spingerex
      @Spingerex 4 года назад +9

      👏

    • @CallxMexLos
      @CallxMexLos 3 года назад +11

      Is that from a movie? That was really good

    • @sandjgaez257
      @sandjgaez257 3 года назад +13

      Is that from a movie or something? If it isn’t, this might be the most underrated comment I’ve ever seen.

    • @starfyredragon
      @starfyredragon 3 года назад +11

      @@sandjgaez257 It's original to me.

    • @toob_noob4381
      @toob_noob4381 2 года назад +4

      Then the cape socks 'em by the 5th sentence

  • @FireDragons42
    @FireDragons42 6 лет назад +233

    Some monologues feel forced, while others are entertaining and useful. I think it depends on just how it is implemented.
    As you were talking about how much showmanship goes into supervilliany I couldn't help but think of Megamind
    Megamind: Oh you're a villain alright, just not a super one.
    Tighten: Oh yeah! What's the difference?
    Megamind: (While walking down the tongue of a giant version of his own head) Presentation!

  • @outpostalpha
    @outpostalpha 6 лет назад +209

    Monologues: Good
    Capes: Bad

    • @LikeTheBuffalo
      @LikeTheBuffalo 6 лет назад +24

      *NO CAPES*

    • @belisauriusfish9406
      @belisauriusfish9406 6 лет назад +3

      Consider: capes with practicality and failsafes to prevent incidents like the many, many cape strangulations that occurred in the incredibles.

    • @AGoes-mn3dm
      @AGoes-mn3dm 6 лет назад +11

      Madonna - 2015 cape tripped on by a backup dancer
      N o C a p e s

    • @henryt3301
      @henryt3301 5 лет назад

      Took me a while to understand this comment.

  • @KoongYe
    @KoongYe 3 года назад +10

    I think Syndrome strikes us hard because we ignored "buddy" and set him aside just like Mr.Incredible did, only to realize the consequences later.

  • @brillopower1492
    @brillopower1492 6 лет назад +15

    16:34 totally reminds me of the conversation between Megamind and Tighten.
    " Oh, you're a villan all right. Just not a Super Villan"
    "Yeah? What's the difference?"
    "PRESENTATION!"

  • @rodrigoarellano992
    @rodrigoarellano992 6 лет назад +2371

    The world after Infinity war: Thanos is the best villain in a super hero movie!
    Me whispering: I’m Syndrome your nemesis

    • @peterpupovac6562
      @peterpupovac6562 6 лет назад +63

      rodrigo arellano hahaha. Yeah I love thanos but I feel like he’s the only villain getting any credit these days

    • @michaelh9610
      @michaelh9610 6 лет назад +44

      Thanos isn't even the best villain in the MCU.

    • @Salty010
      @Salty010 6 лет назад +12

      should be im syndrome, your biggest fans.....

    • @415ProdigalMan
      @415ProdigalMan 6 лет назад +44

      When Marvel changed Thanos' motivation in the MCU, they altered him for the worse IMHO. Because of the changes to his backstory and motivation Thanos made perfect sense until he gathered all the Infinity Stones. Destroying half of a population to end over population only makes sense until you have the ability to double, triple, or make limitless supplies. ; ) Once Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet assembled he no longer needed to be a genocidal villain and it stopped making sense.

    • @Lockn3s5
      @Lockn3s5 6 лет назад +32

      Umm... Thanos' motivation isn't supposed to make sense or be logical. Most villain motivations are not. That's why they are villains. The reason they changed it was to make him more compelling and nuanced especially for the audience as he is essentially the protagonist of the film. His beliefs drive him so he wouldn't likely believe that creating an abundance of resources would solve the problem because he believes over-population is the problem and his conviction towards that belief drives him to act upon it.

  • @adc2422
    @adc2422 6 лет назад +58

    Honestly, Supervillian monologues aren't too unbelievable when you consider that there are many cases when a 'soon to be criminal' writes a manifesto before going on their rampage. In the end the manifesto/monologue can be used to either gloat to others, or to justify what they're about to do (look up the killdozer, ironic since it didn't kill anyone just demolish buildings, and how it's creator described himself as a rational man driven to act irrational).

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon 5 лет назад +225

    Imagen a super villain that does not care about theatrics and just says "you know what? I don't have to prove any one that im grate" and then shoots our hero and he dies unceremoniously and the villain just leaves the place with bags of money
    That would feel like a nihilistic comedy show,
    Now i kinda wanna see that.

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 5 лет назад +50

      One of my favorite lines in Sonic SatAM is Dr. Robotnik attempting that.
      *"You know, hedgehog, I have always wanted to roboticize you, but-"* **pauses to take a breath** *"...I've changed my mind."* **Holds out an empty hand to one of his minions in an expectant fashion** *_"Laser rifle."_*
      It's like he did the smart thing and controlled himself, cutting off his own monologue before it could kick off.
      Shame the critter wasn't as cornered as the man initially thought, and the animal _also_ doesn't happen to be known for _sitting still_ long enough to get shot at...

    • @MS-my1xv
      @MS-my1xv 5 лет назад +22

      HELL SPOON kingsman

    • @TrickyTrickyFox
      @TrickyTrickyFox 5 лет назад +2

      "It's not a movie" )

    • @paanyovaanya3248
      @paanyovaanya3248 5 лет назад +5

      Kingsman is the movie for you.

    • @voltronimusprime3833
      @voltronimusprime3833 5 лет назад +14

      Evil toaster of pure EVIL
      "Well this ain't that kind of movie." BANG

  • @ridermiv
    @ridermiv 5 лет назад +7

    One thing I found interesting about syndrome is that he claims to have done everything he's done without any super powers. But he does a have a super power. He is super intelligent/tecnomancer. He has invented technology far surpassing anything you see in the movie. And what keeps him from realizing this is he is doing what he does out of spite and revenge as opposed to the greater good of society.

  • @johnnytt5233
    @johnnytt5233 6 лет назад +84

    Finally! Someone else who loves villain monologues!! Loved the video, Scott, glad you made it!
    My favourite might be Professor Zoom's from Flashpoint, specifically the film version because the voice acting by C. Thomas Howell is just... Perfect 👌
    "Her hero. How noble...
    Oh wait, you didn't stop JFK from getting assassinated, or make sure Hitler stayed in art school.
    You saved your mommy.
    You missed her.
    And in a supreme act of selfishness, shattered time like a rank amateur. Turned the world into a living hell moments away from destruction...
    And I'm the villain?"

    • @atino7169
      @atino7169 6 лет назад +8

      Just posted about this one. By far my favorite monologue because of how much it solidifies his motivation. How it's not about winning, it's about making The Flash suffer.

    • @malks2500
      @malks2500 6 лет назад +5

      He also has Barry literally beaten while the world is falling apart so it seems reasonable.

  • @ArtsyMeg
    @ArtsyMeg 6 лет назад +350

    Dr. Doofenshmirtz anyone?

    • @j.d.529
      @j.d.529 6 лет назад +56

      Lol, yeah Dr. D always stuck to the format out of professional courtesy to Agent P. Lol

    • @sblower9410
      @sblower9410 6 лет назад +29

      Dr. D is always relevant.

    • @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086
      @helpmesmugglememesintheeu2086 5 лет назад +3

      S Blower he's actually a good villain tho

    • @f.i.r.e.5119
      @f.i.r.e.5119 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, that show made evil monologues even _more_ important to the hero-villain dynamic.
      Peter the Panda ended up kind of deserting Dr. Mystery (or whatever that guy's name was) because of his lack of elaboration.

  • @MyRicrado
    @MyRicrado 5 лет назад +111

    monologing surely isn't logical, but if I wanted to watch something logical I wouldn't watch someone with superpowers wearing tights punching the hell out of some chump who skipped their psychiatrist appointment.
    And one of my favorite monologue (even tho I'm not a fan of the cartoon itself) is The Lich "Fall" speech. It's just so well done, and well timed with the scene that I have nothing to say against it. And of course, all Bill Cypher's blabberings.
    But from a supervillain it would probably be Ozymandias. It's straight up awesome...

    • @r.j.penfold
      @r.j.penfold 3 года назад

      Who's Ozymandias and what's he from?

    • @spyro1132
      @spyro1132 3 года назад +2

      @@r.j.penfold A character in Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon's 'Watchmen', which was also adapted into a film by Zach Synder. The video briefly shows a clip of Ozymandius speaking at 1:56 to 2:12

    • @r.j.penfold
      @r.j.penfold 3 года назад

      @@spyro1132 Idk why but hearing/reading Zach Snyder my nose wrinkled in annoyance or disgust or something... Yikes

    • @spyro1132
      @spyro1132 3 года назад +1

      @@r.j.penfold I get what you mean. I haven't seen the film but Moore does not seem to have been a fan of how it apparently ramps up and effectively glorifies the authoritarian superhero violence that the graphic novel was supposed to critique.

  • @JonathonSwinney2814
    @JonathonSwinney2814 6 лет назад +42

    So Moriarty is the best villain. He monologue-banters with Sherlock Holmes

  • @aaronrobinson4170
    @aaronrobinson4170 6 лет назад +40

    Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +3

      A Sith once saved a poor cripple that the Jedi had left to die.
      And he protected him and gave him all he needed to get even.

    • @thetorivor3440
      @thetorivor3440 6 лет назад +4

      Is it possible to learn this power?

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +3

      Plageis taught it to his apprentice, so: Obviously yes.
      But not from a Jedi.

  • @sbwan
    @sbwan 6 лет назад +43

    I can't believe you missed the Austin Powers/Dr.Evil example of this.
    Especially when his son *Scott* pointed out how easy it would be just to kill Powers outright instead of the elaborate "Sharks with freakin laser beams attached to their heads"

  • @ZGuy0fSci
    @ZGuy0fSci 6 лет назад +18

    *"A Good Villain is one that can be seen as the 'hero' in their story."*
    Such the best 'hero' stories being those that help to show that really there are no "Heroes," but simply people on sides of conflicts...... ;'-)
    Such that there is a story to be had that fits realistically,
    fiction or fantasy aside, it just makes things better. Eh?

  • @sray118
    @sray118 6 лет назад +45

    I see you are totally ignoring Samuel L. Jackson's Valentine in Kingsman: The Secret Service before he killed Colin Firth's Galahad. No time-wasting monologue at all...

  • @PrincessOzaline
    @PrincessOzaline 6 лет назад +53

    One point you kinda touched on with humanizing is also that the villain often views themselves as the hero. They know their outside the law, but they're doing what must be done for the greater good. And if only the hero understood, they would fight by the villain's side, not against them, and if the hero really must die to protect a corrupt system that is unworthy of them, then they should at least know their death will not be in vain for it shall herald a brand new day for all humankind!
    Aaron Sorkin has said you need to have your villains prepared to defend themselves to St. Peter at the Pearly Gates and argue why they should be admitted to Heaven. Sometimes they do this privately as with Minister Frollo explaining how it's totes not his fault he can't control his impulses, in Disney's Hunchback. Sometimes the do it for an audience because they want approval and understanding. And sometimes like Jack Nicholas' character in a Few Good Men, they do it out of a lack of respect for people who possibly couldn't understand what they've gone through, not for their own benefit, but for the world's.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад

      Raul Julia as Bison in the Street Fighter movie.

    • @brillopower1492
      @brillopower1492 6 лет назад +2

      Greater good? I am the greatest good you are ever gonna get!

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer 6 лет назад +498

    I love how the movie franchise that got everyone complaining about villain monologues has some of the BEST villain monologues. Syndrome and Screenslaver both know how to PREACH.
    My *favorite* villain monologue though? Gotta give it to Ultron in Avengers Age Of Ultron. The guy is intelligent but also INSANE and Spader delivers all his speechifying with the perfect mix of charisma and madness.

    • @weezact7
      @weezact7 6 лет назад +18

      What do you mean got everyone complaining? People have complained about monologuing WAY before the Incredibles came out. It is a VERY common trope and is very often done poorly.

    • @Tea-uo7ev
      @Tea-uo7ev 6 лет назад +41

      Screenslaver was so underwhelming, her reasoning was flawed and she barely passed for intimidating.

    • @weezact7
      @weezact7 6 лет назад +10

      I haven't seen the second movie yet, but that's pretty much how I felt about Syndrome. I mean, I guess he could have been intimidating, but any intimidation he had was severely undercut by his ridiculous backstory. "The guy I was stalking told me he didn't want a sidekick, so I decided that I'd become a villain! wahn!"

    • @Tea-uo7ev
      @Tea-uo7ev 6 лет назад +1

      @weezact7 True. But trust me when I say this villain is even more stupid. But the rest of the movie is actually really great.

    • @maplezyrup
      @maplezyrup 6 лет назад +28

      What's cool about Screenslaver is that her motivation was a counter to the message of the first film.
      Also "her reasoning was flawed" isn't a criticism. Not gonna argue about her not being intimidating, though. The whole movie felt kind of...small, and I don't mean in scope.

  • @nateisi8422
    @nateisi8422 5 лет назад +9

    just about any Mark Hamill Joker monologue is amazing.

  • @bioshockbrat9171
    @bioshockbrat9171 5 лет назад +13

    V for Vendetta is my favorite in terms of monologing. It feels passionate and I love the rebellion in the movie adaptation

    • @CallxMexLos
      @CallxMexLos 3 года назад

      One of my favorite movies

    • @gulfbut
      @gulfbut 3 года назад

      I watched that, but it’s so boring, I forgot what scene showed that. Could I have a link?

    • @bioshockbrat9171
      @bioshockbrat9171 3 года назад

      @@gulfbut - I'm not sure it was mentioned at all. The hero monologues the whole movie. It's the exception to the rule. V the protagonist subtly tells us his story and I would like to believe that he empowers Evey in an oppressive regime to take her destiny into her own hands or die like Valerie. Honestly just search up the opening for the movie: namely the alley scene.

  • @NerdSyncProductions
    @NerdSyncProductions  6 лет назад +763

    So... I made a 22-minute long video about supervillain monologues. Enjoy?

    • @mattjohnston2
      @mattjohnston2 6 лет назад +9

      Yes. Yes, I did enjoy.
      Thanks :D

    • @WAMTAT
      @WAMTAT 6 лет назад +22

      A monologue about monologues?

    • @xaviervargas4098
      @xaviervargas4098 6 лет назад +5

      NerdSync
      Of course I did! Excellent work as always.

    • @asseTm98
      @asseTm98 6 лет назад

      Of course.
      Love it even

    • @tornadochaser2457
      @tornadochaser2457 6 лет назад +1

      NerdSync
      I enjoyed Scott!

  • @MataNui.
    @MataNui. 6 лет назад +57

    I think the issue is they're often used as a deus ex machina. Essentially when done poorly, it's because the writer wrote themself into a corner and had the villain turn stupid for a moment.

    • @Azmodeus87
      @Azmodeus87 6 лет назад +9

      That's not what a deus ex machina is. To be a DEM, it needs to come completely out of the blue, with no prior setup. Villain monologues might be used in bad writing, but not all bad writing is a DEM.

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. 6 лет назад +2

      Not sure why I thought that's what one was.

    • @Azmodeus87
      @Azmodeus87 6 лет назад +5

      well, in your defense, your not the only one making that mistake. It's like with Mary Sues/ Marty Stues, the term(s) are so abused it's more common to missuse them then otherwise.

    • @beninebot1
      @beninebot1 5 лет назад +2

      It may not be a DEM but I totally get what you mean. It is bad writing

  • @Tricksterbelle
    @Tricksterbelle 6 лет назад +14

    What's interesting is how the villainous monologue is the shadow version of the Summation you see in detective stories. If you've seen Columbo or Sherlock Holmes stories, you know the trope. It serves similar story and character functions as monologing, but reframes the narrative to show all the hidden machinations and let's you see if you guessed the mystery.

  • @NRF-ee6cp
    @NRF-ee6cp 5 лет назад +23

    3:41 Syndrome DOES have good reason though. MI is the reason for his murderous rampage or so he thinks and he lashes out like a kid would at his abusive father when things went too far....
    Also, Syndrome did it all for Mr. Incredible so it's personal....his evil gloating is warranted.
    It's obvious Brad Bird was a fan of the comic book genre. It's great. Love both Incredibles films

  • @sblower9410
    @sblower9410 6 лет назад +131

    Megamind: "Your a villain alright, just not a SUPER one."
    Titan: "Yah, what's the difference."
    Megamind: "PRESENTATION"
    Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    • @ckertom433
      @ckertom433 6 лет назад +6

      S Blower resist copying a popular comment? Impressive.

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 5 лет назад +2

      *you're**

  • @eelrockart2182
    @eelrockart2182 6 лет назад +599

    "Red-blue S man?"
    Scott, you should know by now. That's an L, not an S.

  • @NumbingDisasterAnon
    @NumbingDisasterAnon 6 лет назад +40

    I remember when I use to watch My Little Pony a lot, the villain Queen Chrysallis when she first appeared started to monologue and people complained that she was doing so while she had all the god-power horses captured and the main heroes depowered and the capital of the nation under attack. But really, it seemed like she only monologue to keep the heroes distracted while she captured the city...just wasting time so her evil scheme would complete at its own time.
    I think if more villains did that, using monologues to keep the heroes distracted while their machinations completed themselves in their own time, more people would not attack the trope as much. As the theatrics and explanation of the plan would keep a hero's attention occupied and not think of what could be going on around them while they focus on the villain who is too busy talking to do anything fatal.

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default 5 лет назад +12

    Monologues only bother me when the hero is just standing there, letting them tell their story, when they could easily use the opportunity to just knock 'em on the spot.

    • @jadenbryant9283
      @jadenbryant9283 2 года назад

      spiderman did that in the recent what if comic called spiderman dark shadow

  • @rkvc
    @rkvc 6 лет назад +632

    Does this make Velma the ultimate supervillain?

    • @NoConsequenc3
      @NoConsequenc3 6 лет назад +64

      That's why I love her. It all makes sense now

    • @weezact7
      @weezact7 6 лет назад +27

      Villains are not the only ones who monologue

    • @tuppersplus
      @tuppersplus 6 лет назад +49

      weezact7 r/woosh

    • @Crispman_777
      @Crispman_777 6 лет назад +21

      Velma Vs Daphne for title of best girl: begin...

    • @galarstar052
      @galarstar052 6 лет назад +8

      jinkies

  • @jhunterl98
    @jhunterl98 6 лет назад +40

    "sorry I just needed a way to end that bit" IIIIIII'm crying haha

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  6 лет назад +5

      Hahaha! Glad to hear it! I was worried people would find it annoying.

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 6 лет назад +5

      NerdSync Nah that was legitimately good comedy, very well done

  • @hpalpha7323
    @hpalpha7323 2 года назад +4

    I think a big part of Syndrome's monologue is that he wants to make sure Mr. Incredible knows that everything is his fault. He doesn't want sympathy, he wants remorse. He wants to make him feel as miserable as he did

  • @StarlasAiko
    @StarlasAiko 5 лет назад +8

    "I guess, this is where you put me in some convoluted death trap and i find some equally convoluted way to escape."
    "This is not that kind of story."

  • @mattjohnston2
    @mattjohnston2 6 лет назад +65

    "are they useful and interesting, or are you wrong?"
    Oh, Scott, that might have been the best call for comments yet!

  • @cooltrainervaultboy-39
    @cooltrainervaultboy-39 6 лет назад +135

    Well at least his back story isn't as bad as being raised by ocelots and made to guard a garden dressed as a lawn gnome. #neverforget.

    • @xaviervargas4098
      @xaviervargas4098 6 лет назад +42

      CoolTrainer: VaultBoy-39
      LOL. Or both of his parents failing to show up on the day of his actual birth.

    • @DaidriveCJ
      @DaidriveCJ 6 лет назад +7

      CoolTrainer: VaultBoy-39 Poor Doof

    • @jimnicholas7334
      @jimnicholas7334 6 лет назад +13

      [CoolTrainer: ValtBoy-39] Don't forget the hand-me-up girls clothing!

    • @jacobbenns6090
      @jacobbenns6090 6 лет назад +6

      Curse you, Perry the platypus!

    • @emc246
      @emc246 6 лет назад +10

      Or an unhealthy obsession with Sekf-Destruct buttons (seriously, on the BOTTOMS OF THE ROBOTS' FEET!)

  • @erocenturion2809
    @erocenturion2809 5 лет назад +22

    I think they can be *super* cool. XD My favorites are probably all from Slade in Teen Titans (2003). I don't know if it's long enough to count, but in the episode Haunted, where Robin starts seeing Slade everywhere, he's got this great set of lines he says when he's got Robin backed into a corner.
    I think this link'll bring you to the part I'm thinking of:
    ruclips.net/video/51dNGj9OZx0/видео.html

  • @nathanielschwartz425
    @nathanielschwartz425 5 лет назад +12

    I think my favorite villain monologue (if this even counts as one) is by Dr. Julius No from the James Bond movie Dr. No in the dinner scene where James Bond and Honey Ryder get captured and are invited to dinner. During this scene Dr. No has ordered his men to take away Honey Ryder so that he can talk with Bond alone. And in the book he tells his life story and we actually learn, from the book, that he named himself Julius No after he ran away from home and started living on his own. He also explains that he gave himself that name because his mom left when he was really little and his dad was always rejecting him all the time. So when he was about, I think in the book it said that he was about 14 or so (I don't exactly remember how old he was) he ran away from home, learned about nuclear weapons, and renamed himself Julius No. "Julius" after his father and "No" because of how his father rejected him. And after reading the book, his name just makes SO MUCH more sense.

  • @ironicdutchmoonshade1394
    @ironicdutchmoonshade1394 6 лет назад +40

    Sometimes a monologue is used to persuade the hero to join the side of evil (Darth Vader) or for the villain to validate their ego (Red Skull in the MCU)
    In general monologues are great if they make sense (like Syndrome or The Joker) but if they don't, they are aweful. It is one of those things that is not inherently good or evil.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +4

      "That which is done out of love is beyond good and evil." - Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morality

  • @JackMValentine
    @JackMValentine 6 лет назад +111

    I would say one of my personal favorite villain monologues has to be Agent Smith from the first Matrix movie. Explaining to a tortured Morpheus how we truly detests humanity. While what he is saying is so conversely against the idea of being human it actually makes him more relatable because he's not just some abstract AI program inside of simulation. He has thoughts, ideas and clearly takes the existence of humans personally as they force him to exist. Not things we would typically associate with emotionless machines like say the T-1000.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад +5

      Agent Smith is the true hero of the movie.

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful 6 лет назад +3

      Agent smith is the one.

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg 6 лет назад +1

      Hugo is my favorite Elf / Government Spook in a simulation.

    • @Kyrielsh1
      @Kyrielsh1 6 лет назад +1

      Yep, the machines are actually for one thing: what does make humans do what they do ? 'cause now the humans are subdued they don't know what on earth they should or could do... The "energetic reason" is crap once they have nuclear fusion. But the machines do want something more than just "functioning", so there's their struggle and how they in the end extremely relatable.
      And for the comments above, Smith during all three movies is a mirror of Neo, they're looking for the same thing, just in very different ways, and Smith is not that successful. So no, if he's "the hero" it's in a very particular interpretation of the movie but there are probably many more where he isn't (I would dare say they are more interesting but hey, that's just me...).

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful 6 лет назад

      Kyrielsh1 well there is the interpretation that all the stuff that colnel sanders is talking about relates more to agent smith than neo and by neo (plugged into the source) being absorbed by agent smith it returns smith to the source, thus fulfilling the prophecy and resetting the matrix

  • @LuciferonMinecraft
    @LuciferonMinecraft 5 лет назад +5

    I know this is kind of late to the party, but there was an absolutely brilliant moment of symbolism in the movie. The flashback scene to when Incredible rejected Buddy is inaccurate. It straight up shows that Buddy is an unreliable narrator, and shows Mr. Incredible alone, in a darkened room, derisively and personally rejecting Buddy, which is how he interpreted it. However in the actual scene, the lighting is far less ominous, and Mr. Incredible is focused on Bomb Voyage, an obvious threat and distraction, which could explain why he might have been harsh with Buddy. The fact that those details are omitted shows that Buddy straight up doesn't remember how that night went down, and the memory in the flashback is a literal look into how either he constructed his life around a falsehood, or fooled himself into remembering in such a way that fits his narrative.

  • @SlightyLessEvolved
    @SlightyLessEvolved 5 лет назад +4

    I think another reason for a villain monologue might be to make an argument. If it's compelling enough, the audience (and maybe even the hero!) is forced to stop and consider whether or not the hero is really in the right. In universe, this might take the form of the villain trying to win the hero or some third party over to their point of view, or even to try to justify their actions to themselves.

  • @thepokekid01
    @thepokekid01 6 лет назад +137

    This was super interesting as always. One thing about modern Monologue that I like are to have a no way out point for a villain's arc. Usually for the hero, the "no way out" point is when the villain commits a crime, but for the villain, it is that monologue point. The Hero doesn't know why the villain did it, and the villain is half-way hoping the hero will hear their side and change their minds. That is the point where the villain recognizes the Hero will never change their path. I feel like that is how it is used in Anime (but modern comics and stuff as well), and I like that the most, especially where the hero and villain have really close ties.
    It's that emotional roller coaster we enjoy in the MCU of Thor and Loki hating and loving each other as family and that feeling of wanting to drive them crazy, but not to their deaths. That said, other aspects of monologuing are entertaining too (like doing it for arrogant reasons), I think it just depends on if it shows character.

    • @GogiRegion
      @GogiRegion 5 лет назад +3

      (+thepokekid01) That’s a good point on trying to convince them a bit. It makes sense that someone who really cares about something might think that they could change their minds, or maybe at least give them enough sympathy to think twice.

  • @Gungelion
    @Gungelion 6 лет назад +20

    I never once considered villain monologues silly. My reasoning comes down to two particular monologues in the series my hero academia.
    All for ones monologue existed in order to undermine the hero's confidence and thereby not only creating the opportunity for victory, but also undermined what the hero represented to the population.
    Stain's monologues about impacting his ideas into the minds of others and thereby overthrow what he considered a corrupt society.
    Good villains monologue isn't about simply explaining details, it exists on a much more personal level. When you're putting your all into fighting someone you are not just simply throwing punches, but you are also battling their ideals and as such, utilize everything at your disposal, including your words.
    Whether or not it's about staying up for what you believe in or undermining what the other guy believes in, its not just a matter of speaking for the sake of speaking.
    A conversation between a hero in the villain is enough itself a battle wills.

  • @kakashihatake6176
    @kakashihatake6176 5 лет назад +19

    l think that syndrome did not receive attention from his parents,so the only way that he could felt that he was worth something was by being a hero
    Shame it did not work out

  • @Thelifeofbudder
    @Thelifeofbudder 5 лет назад +14

    Now that I hear syndromes voice I always think,
    "Hey guys its Jeff from the overwatch team"

  • @BraxtonLee23
    @BraxtonLee23 6 лет назад +23

    low key upset you didnt use Dr. Doofensmertz as an example lmao

  • @Onani_Master
    @Onani_Master 6 лет назад +27

    SCOTT! You cut off Ozymandias before he said 'I did it 35 mins ago'! FOR SHAME

  • @bcn1gh7h4wk
    @bcn1gh7h4wk 6 лет назад +2

    the best villain monologues I remember, are from anime... especially the Saint Seiya saga of the 12 houses, where all the golden saints have different reasons to hate the heros.
    "You are insignificant! I'll crush you!", "You're disrespectful! How dare you!", "You're naive! I'll set you straight!".... and on and on.
    it shows you how many different kinds of wrong somebody can be, regardless of how ever high up the power ladder their are.

  • @griffinh.966
    @griffinh.966 5 лет назад +96

    Ok cool but *_did you just insult Stan Lee?_*

    • @tridentgum63
      @tridentgum63 4 года назад +2

      He dead. Insults are fine.

    • @RambunctiousMouse
      @RambunctiousMouse 4 года назад +23

      @@tridentgum63 No, no it isn't. If anything that makes it worse

    • @adamkalb1
      @adamkalb1 4 года назад +9

      I doubt it. And even if he did, Stan was still alive during this video's publishing date. November 11, 2019, 2:07am

    • @tabbyarts3670
      @tabbyarts3670 3 года назад +1

      He criticized him

    • @HOLDENPOPE
      @HOLDENPOPE 3 года назад +1

      I feel like Stan would look at the critique and try to improve, or laugh at it if it's either a joke or bad enough of a critique. Plus, not every storyteller can also draw full panels of their story, and even fewer can animate them.

  • @Mythicalmage
    @Mythicalmage 6 лет назад +75

    You can definitely find examples in Shonen anime/manga as well. We all remember Frieiza, don't we?

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  6 лет назад +12

      Aaaahhhh! My lack of manga/anime knowledge bites me again, haha.

    • @GBDupree
      @GBDupree 6 лет назад +17

      Jojo Part 4 has an incredible monologue by the villain Kira, it explain his character perfectly. I suggest reading or watching that part just for that moment. It was one of the first examples for me that a monologue can be more than just a way to explain the villains plan for the reader, in fact Kira doesn't even have a plan or anything and it makes him an incredibly unique and interesting villain.

    • @ot4kon
      @ot4kon 6 лет назад +3

      his plan was to masturbate with the hands of women.

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify 6 лет назад +2

      ot4kon *on* the hands of women, not *with*

    • @SgtTwilight
      @SgtTwilight 6 лет назад +3

      Digimon has some great monologues!
      _WHY DO YOU GET TO TASTE THE BEST LIFE HAS TO OFFER WHILE ALL I GET TO DO IS CHOKE ON ITS LEFTOVERS. ANSWER ME THIS! WHY DO YOU ALL GET THE PIZZA WHILE I GET THE CRUST! I WILL RULE THE WORLD AND PLUNGE IT INTO DARKNESS SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE ALONE ANYMORE IN MY MISERY. HAHAHAHAHA...Wait a minute what am I laughing at? I'm supposed to be depressed!_

  • @SwordsmanStudios
    @SwordsmanStudios 6 лет назад +175

    I'd like to know more about how Syndrome's name reflects his character. According to google syndrome means "a group of symptoms that consistently occur together or a condition characterized by a set of associated symptoms." I'd love to see your interpretation of how that plays out in his character.

    • @pbmultiverse543
      @pbmultiverse543 6 лет назад +76

      Swordsman Studios his name most likely reflects the "hero syndrome"
      It's a syndrome in which a person create trouble or danger in purpose just so they can help they the person or people they harmed.
      Sound familiar, exactly, Syndrome's plan is basically that, sending the robot he made to then cause trouble, then save everyone and be considered a hero

    • @epm1012
      @epm1012 6 лет назад +16

      Pb Multiverse His robot is also essentially a combination of various symptoms.

    • @JackClockerinos
      @JackClockerinos 6 лет назад +20

      I thought his name was The Sitter?

    • @SwordsmanStudios
      @SwordsmanStudios 6 лет назад +35

      Personally, I preferred his original title of "Baby Sitter", but I understand why he had to ditch the original emblem

    • @timothycarney9652
      @timothycarney9652 6 лет назад +10

      I like to think he saw a lot of psychiatrists initially as his parents were concerned about him, and he picked up the word there- then his inventions start getting attention and he quickly becomes independently wealthy and very secretive as his funders help keep him from getting found out (and to most of them he is just a little weird and perfectly happy on his island paradise) and eventually comes up with his master plan once he has his gauntlets and can easily take down the heroes he idolized- IE once he thinks he is better than the heroes he turns himself into a villian- then the word Syndrome comes up, a word he hated when it was used against him in therapy, but now he can turn it around to aim it at Heroes as a commentary on what makes a Supervillain- He was created by Heroes, in his mind Mr. Incredible's actions created him as a villain, a talented young man, eager to get into the situations of hero vs villain violence, capable of working on par with heroes but not having powers himself, spurned and turned against them- being a Supervillain is a Syndrome! that and the hero syndrome allusion Multiverse pointed our

  • @VGamingJunkie
    @VGamingJunkie 6 лет назад +6

    I find it especially funny when the hero attacks the villain while they're monologuing. You showed a failed attempt but, on Dragonball Z, Goku flat out punches Jeice on the nose while he's giving a monologue, apologizing and then saying they keep leaving themselves wide open, which is hilarious.

  • @Thoralmir
    @Thoralmir 5 лет назад +7

    You forgot that one scene in the finale of Van Helsing:
    "I think if you're going to kill someone, kill them! Don't stand there talking about it!"

  • @Ultracity6060
    @Ultracity6060 6 лет назад +200

    Two best monologues:
    - Sovereign from the first Mass Effect
    - Owlman at the end of Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths

    • @TyphoonJig
      @TyphoonJig 6 лет назад +9

      You forgot Andrew Ryan's one.

    • @gagrin1565
      @gagrin1565 5 лет назад +39

      You exist because we allow it. You will end because we demand it.

    • @asherrosano4016
      @asherrosano4016 5 лет назад +6

      GaGrin one of the best lines in the game

    • @KeeganIdler
      @KeeganIdler 5 лет назад +3

      Ultracity6060 good choices

    • @a.morphous66
      @a.morphous66 5 лет назад +10

      I really liked Ultron’s apocalypse speech in Age of Him.
      “When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world... will be metal.”

  • @smaakjeks
    @smaakjeks 6 лет назад +236

    Shakespeare always had his villains explain their motives, except one time. Iago in Othello.
    I know this not because I've read Shakespeare, but there's a really interesting episode of Radiolab called "Why are bad guys bad". It is apropos this topic. Give it a listen!
    Also, I was expecting a mention of Megamind!

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 6 лет назад +3

      No kidding. We need a sequel to that one.

    • @jake_russ
      @jake_russ 6 лет назад +8

      Oh man I remember Othello from high school. He just seemed to hate Othello with a passion, and played the long game till the end.

    • @jaredschroeder7555
      @jaredschroeder7555 5 лет назад

      Jake R well he hated him cause he is marrying his crush of sorts, and doing it without letting anyone pose their objections like is typical of the time period.

    • @locrynmurray4719
      @locrynmurray4719 5 лет назад +8

      +jared schroeder Sorry but...no. Iago gives 5 potential motivations for his actions throughout the play: first that Othello is black, second because Othello passed him over for promotion, third because he thinks Othello has slept with his wife, fourth because he thinks Cassio (the guy he tries to frame Othello's wife with) MIGHT sleep with his wife, and fifth...just because he can. Once everyone actually asks him why he did it, he just refuses to answer. His true motivation is intentionally left completely unknown and it's just up to the audience to make up their own minds from those 5 potential explanations.
      Yes I am a complete Shakespeare nerd, and a proud one.

    • @smaakjeks
      @smaakjeks 5 лет назад

      +Lycron
      Perhaps you can offer a way into Shakespeare for plebs such as myself. The language is a bit hard to penetrate, IMO. Are there new translations which capture the essence in a way that makes it possible to understand what is being said and done, without dedicating years to each play?
      Hyperbole? Who's he?

  • @magnusprime962
    @magnusprime962 4 года назад +3

    There’s a great quote from Star Trek: Deep Space 9 that I think really sums up the rationale villains have for monologuing.
    “A true victory is to make your enemies realize they were wrong to oppose you in the first place. To force them to acknowledge your greatness!”

  • @KregorEight
    @KregorEight 6 лет назад +1

    Honestly, Syndrome's second monologue IS one of my favourite of all time. It's been 14 years and it still resonates with me.

  • @Wixhael
    @Wixhael 6 лет назад +318

    I've been waiting for this video for a long time now, and as usual, Scott did NOT disappoint. Another brilliant video, and one of my favorites. Great work, Scott. Keep it up.

  • @Ruby_Coast
    @Ruby_Coast 6 лет назад +146

    I know you are going about how Syndrome's backstory makes him sympathetic.
    But also he's literally the fanboys today who go out of their way to wage war with what they love when it doesn't live up to their expectations.
    So yeah, I guess to the chunk of the comic book reading demographic he is relatable.

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 5 лет назад +3

      What about Screenslaver ? IT was also pretty interesting.

    • @armstrongjosh
      @armstrongjosh 5 лет назад +25

      I think Syndrome represents more than that. I think he represents everyone's personal hero who let them down. That person you followed and loved, but when you finally met them, they treated you like were nothing. We all have those experiences.

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 5 лет назад +3

      Fanboys today? Syndrome had a personal vendetta against Mr Incredible, and systematically killed other heroes to get to him, he didn't wage war against that which he loved, he waged war against his enemy. And yes "fanboys", what a nice pejorative, whose expectation for media that were not met by that media because it is political trash are perfectly justified for wanting to fight against it, and what it represents. This is hardly Syndromes MO.

    • @Luka1180
      @Luka1180 5 лет назад

      Buddy is basically the fan who will go up to a RUclipsr's house. Not cool. Not very sympathetic if you ask me. It is a motive, it makes sense for his character, but I would never call him sympathetic.

  • @a.c.tinc.604
    @a.c.tinc.604 4 года назад +3

    Monologging derives from Shakespeare's characters and their monologues, soliloquies and most importantly the use of the ASIDE.
    See Richard III or Iago of Othello for more on this.

  • @NRF-ee6cp
    @NRF-ee6cp 5 лет назад +5

    Incredibles is my childhood and got me into superheroes alongside teen titans, spiderman, and static shock.
    Jack Jack is silver surfer.

  • @UltimateKyuubiFox
    @UltimateKyuubiFox 6 лет назад +17

    I think the thing for most people is that the whole point of having a conflict is to create a sense of stakes. When the story is about delving into the interpersonal struggle between hero and villain, no one will complain about the monologue (See the Joker and Batman). But when the villain’s primary goal is to accomplish... their goal... and they basically stall for five minutes... what’s even the point? We know the hero will get out of it. We’re just sitting there waiting for the other shoe to drop because we know the stakes are so low.
    If the scene isn’t about the villain’s internal problems but about achieving an external goal, then the monologue’s sole purpose is as a cheap method of getting the hero out of a scrape that they should have no ability to overcome otherwise. That’s when it’s treated as a joke. Because that IS bad writing.
    Intent matters. For the case you mention, the character subtext of the monologue is the point of the scene. In the cases most people are referring to, the external goal is the point of the scene and having the villain monologue their advantage away is the only method the writer could think of to get the hero out of the bad situation. That’s the difference. One is a display of character motivation and flaws, the other is a cheap narrative hack.

  • @KnightsDisillusion
    @KnightsDisillusion 6 лет назад +147

    Such a Classic artform in comics.

  • @ericjohannson7090
    @ericjohannson7090 5 лет назад +7

    "Mr. Action"? :0
    Really?
    Obviously, this is Mr. Incredibleness. :P

  • @joshuawatson1457
    @joshuawatson1457 5 лет назад +3

    One of my favorite monologues is actually "The Magic Hour" speech that the Riddler gives in Zero Year. Surprise, surprise. What I enjoy about it is that it explicitly lays out the structure of Nygma's game and his reasoning for it. Or rather shows that much like a riddle he misleads, that there is a facade, something inauthentic about any earnest challenge to better anyone through turning an entire city's population into contestants on a self serving, ego driven game show. And he really does present it both as an "earnest" appeal and with that revelry, that panache that is at odds with the sullen, overrun remains of Gotham City. All while demanding someone challenge him, command his respect even momentarily.
    Suffice it to say I do enjoy a good old long winded villainous monologue!

  • @FancyGeeks
    @FancyGeeks 6 лет назад +54

    Glad I'm not the only one who constantly links to that video rather than explain the concept of the "ages of comics" again.

  • @AmaranthOriginal
    @AmaranthOriginal 6 лет назад +16

    I like this video, but I think Syndrom'e's kind of a bad example. Monologues are irrational, but they're also very human. Syndrome is very human. Almost super-human...wait...
    But seriously, Syndrome used to be a little kid who took the hero worship thing a little too far. Mr. Totally-Not-The-Thing didn't just let him down. He hurt him. And it probably continues to grind at him that Mr. Incredible is still out there, even if he's living a sub-Parr life. He wants the hero who dashed his dreams to hurt, and he wants him to know why this is happening: you could have had a super-awesome sidekick, Mr. Incredible, but you rejected him, and now you're going to lose to him. You rejected "me," and now "I've" proven "I'm" superior. But it doesn't end there.
    I think Syndrome may hold Mr. Incredible to a high standard of worth, but not out of respect. Killing those other supers was a means to an end, but this? This is personal. He plans revenge through theatrics, but that's how he saw superheroes since childhood.
    This is also somewhat important for a lot of comic book villains. Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne have a storied history with many of their villains--some are even on a first name basis, depending on the universe/timeline/version of the character. The intimacy of the relationship between them is almost like having a friend or family member, except you're trying to beat the snot out of each other. Venom is the combination of a lover scorned and a man whose life was ruined "by Spider-Man." I think most people are more likely to Facebook stalk their exes to make sure they're doing better, but I can imagine more than a few of us would like to gloat.
    Despite the Bond-Villain trappings, Syndrome strikes me more in that vein of villain: his entire goal is to beat Mr. Incredible at his own game. His end-game goes beyond killing Mr. Incredible, it goes to taking away the very thing that Syndrome thinks he values most: being a superhero. He will beat Mr. Incredible. He will save the world and be loved where his hero was hated. He will be the Superior Spider-whoops! Wrong franchise.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 6 лет назад

      Venom is not a villain.
      Venom is just as much a hero as Spiderman. They just happen to be enemies for very personal reasons.
      And neither of them is wrong about the other.

  • @ThePhynix85
    @ThePhynix85 6 лет назад +27

    Well, if you think about it, Scott stole 22 mins., of all the lifetimes of those who watched the entire video.
    Which makes him a very mean and bad villain. And he is monologuing the entire video. Think about it...

    • @Lenare
      @Lenare 5 лет назад +2

      He didn't steal it I gave it willingly.

  • @teedee6126
    @teedee6126 5 лет назад +1

    The production on this is amazing, I love how well the info is presented.

  • @vids1900
    @vids1900 6 лет назад +13

    Weren't all comic book writers wordy in the silver age? That was just part of the format at the time?
    The first great movie/superhero monologue that comes to mind is Arnim Zola's Hydra reveal in Winter Soldier because of the real world parallels. It's not as personal as the typical monologue, but does shake Steve, Natasha, and the audience up all at once

    • @Kyrielsh1
      @Kyrielsh1 6 лет назад

      Actually I ticked at the implicit statement that Stan Lee, who supposedly cultivated this villain's monologue thing, is less talented than Kirby or others... In a video that tells us how important and genius the villain's monologue is o_O

  • @benjaminkellog7311
    @benjaminkellog7311 6 лет назад +10

    I don't have a favorite monologue, but I do prefer two relatively well-known word-wielders when I think of the trope. Dr. Doom is the greatest scenery-chewer in comics history hands down. On an average day, he'll give you a bit of his personal history, the finer details of his current plan, the astrological signs indicating his success, terse threats of your downfall, and maybe even his assurances that all this is merely for the good of his people, his country, the world, and himself (not necessarily in that order, and not always with all of these elements), all without losing his track of thought or using "peasant" language beneath his lofty position. If monologues were still being taught on college campuses, Victor Von Doom would be the primary subject of the main textbook.
    The other monologuing villain I commonly picture is The Hooded Claw from "The Perils of Penelope Pitstop." He's not nearly as verbose as Doom, but man alive, can he lay out the mechanics of his latest death trap or what! Funnily enough, even though he has a background as a lawyer, an occupation tailor-made for long-winded bloviation (and a great civilian name, too: Sylvester Sneakly), he doesn't let his speeches linger too long. I like his "back to basics" approach to evil: Just let Penelope know what's up with the trap, then get away before the Anthill Mob meddles once again. He's a real meat and potatoes kind of guy.

    • @nitehunter91
      @nitehunter91 6 лет назад

      Great reference the Hooded Claw

  • @kellyloganme
    @kellyloganme 6 лет назад +4

    Favorite Monologue: Jareth in "Labyrinth" in the final confrontation between him and Sarah. He maintains an air of cool, superior, aloofness for the rest of the movie, but in this last moment he lays his heart and soul bare before her. You see stark contradictions in his thoughts and feelings, but most of all you feel his raw emotion like a gut shot.
    "Everything I've done, I've done for you!:
    "I move the stars for no-one!"
    "Love me, worship me, do as I say and I will be your slave!"
    Bowie masterfully presents this twisted dark mirror on love as obsession and control. The monologue is not explaining details of his plan so much as his own internal motivations and desires in a last ditch effort to connect with Sarah and convince her emotionally after failing to control her physically and mentally.

  • @buddypine6003
    @buddypine6003 5 лет назад

    You made your point, and got it from my heart. Your speech was really beautiful man, I cried for real. That was really touching.

  • @ripleyjlawman.3162
    @ripleyjlawman.3162 6 лет назад +12

    You never cease to surprise me.

  • @salazars.4123
    @salazars.4123 6 лет назад +34

    Lost so much concentration after the "stop it" warning to not click away and the "support me on patreon" shout-out that I'm now down here in the comments trying to figure out what to do next...

    • @SalazarKnight
      @SalazarKnight 6 лет назад +2

      Naturally, I watched the whole thing (and switched accounts). BTW Scott, I also liked the Joker in BvS!

  • @thentheric6361
    @thentheric6361 5 лет назад +3

    I think the villainous monologue as a device is more about the fact that the viewer is supposed to identify with the protagonist. It's a form of humoral pathology, the kind that reminds me of the part of the Bible where "Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness," where YOU are approached by a radically different perspective, and you must find the golden middle way between the ideals of the hero and the foe (which is usually NOT a linear average). It's a common trope that the hero realizes the struggle of the villain, and just before the final blow, delivers a synthesis to them.
    The villain is often a humorist, who compels their audience to think.
    With that in mind, I like the speeches of Ozymandias from Watchmen, Sovereign from Mass Effect and John Milton from Devil's Advocate. They are all revelatory and constitute the essence of a good villain: The daemon that puts your very soul on trial - the one whose ideas make you think for yourself, doubt your values and morality for a moment...
    "Was the hero really right? Was I really right?"
    And top quality plots like the Watchmen expose a flaw in the villain's methods that undermine their goal. The tragedy of the villain is fulfilled by their realization that the hero could justify their agenda.

  • @JPKloess
    @JPKloess 6 лет назад +1

    Glad to see you're still doing this Scott, you look like you're having fun with Nerdsync. Haven't seen much of the show the past year or two, but these are still great.

  • @thespongemonkey
    @thespongemonkey 6 лет назад +3

    He definitely also delivered a monologue to gazerbeam, but only gazerbeam, cause gazerbeam is the goat.

  • @issa8263
    @issa8263 6 лет назад +48

    I saw that Hamilton reference!!!

  • @AspiringAbogado
    @AspiringAbogado 6 лет назад

    I love you, Scott. This video has ALL the quality.

  • @alexanderveal1180
    @alexanderveal1180 5 лет назад +1

    100% agree. My first thought when you started was that they are understandable because villains are human and have human emotions and crave validation and recognition like everyone else when we feel we are accomplishing something. Its like that "if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it did it make a sound" thing.

  • @MaestroMagnifico21
    @MaestroMagnifico21 6 лет назад +6

    the cliche of Villain monologues are amazingly Cheesy i think they are great a very classic staple of the superhero genre

  • @kaiwilliams141
    @kaiwilliams141 6 лет назад +18

    Great work scott. Worth the wait

    • @NerdSyncProductions
      @NerdSyncProductions  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks, Kai!

    • @kaiwilliams141
      @kaiwilliams141 6 лет назад +2

      NerdSync i just comment as soon as I get a notification. Then watch the video knowing I will enjoy it.

  • @TheEmbessyNetwork
    @TheEmbessyNetwork 6 лет назад

    Loving these video formats and your hats Scott. Makes you look distinguished...keep up the great content!