It’s not that I disagreed with myrion. I agreed with him probably 90%. It’s that he purposely said things in a way to aggravate people, to get a reaction out of them. He chooses the most antagonizing/ vexing words possible. Like the putting fat ppl in concentration camp’s statement. He could have said putting fat ppl on a weight loss program or sum.
And ur gonna say “ur soft because u can’t handle the truth”. Well when someone purposely says things to piss ppl off u can’t be shocked when they spaz out. But that Myrion’s whole game anyway: get a reaction out of ppl, get clicks, get views, stay relevant, and appear strong to his audience bc “the other side can’t handle the truth”.
fr, he has good points but the way he chooses to say things just makes people not wanna listen to him. And he obviously does it to get viral clips and reactions lol
Tbh it sounds like it would work, a camp where obese people can all workout together and support each other and are given the tools they need to succeed, that doesn’t sound wild to me.
@@ChrisCali831when you start forcing people to do something is just one more step to giving the government more power. If the government can have say on how you look it will have a say in what you think what you say and what you do. Also I don’t want higher taxes just so my neighbor can lose weight
I ain’t gon lie my doctor told me I had one of the slowest metabolisms she ever tested, and I was an absolute fatass ( I’m talking 5’8 220 pounds) I got bullied every day up until 9th grade because the summer after 8th grade the thing that fueled me to work out every day and eat good and know my macros was the fear of getting bullied by even more kids in a bigger school. I’m now 6’0 170 and I played on my school’s football team basketball team and I ran track. It’s not fair that I have to work out so much more than others to keep the look I want but life’s not fair and I know some people don’t get motivated by getting bullied but I did and my life has completely changed.
I'm the opposite bruh I was 5'10 115 lbs and I had to force feed every day for 3 years straight to get to 5'11 165 lbs and I still struggle to maintain this weight I'll easily lose 5 lbs if I don't constantly eat all day
Myron could have worded what he's saying better because at the end of the day he's talking to real people with feelings as well. I was on his side but it got to the point where I was like "Damn bro.... Calm down... These are people too"
He needs to learn that having empathy is not a bad thing, and doesn't make you less of a 'mAn'. Infact its a pretty important trait to have to be a good human being.
@@divyaa4459Shame too cause i did agree with most things he was saying in the video from an objective standpoint; it’s the way he worded everything and showed no empathy for other people that completely turned me off.
The thing is, Myron is saying facts and not sugar coating but he is doing it at the most extreme extent it makes his points invalid. Its all about the delivery.
I think the way you say things matter A LOT. It’s definitely an objective factor in how humans communicate. I bet you a lot of people would listen to him if he changed the delivery. Delivery matters.
No it’s not, if you’re living in a food dessert and have very very limited options to healthy foods…it’s the position you’re born/placed in. You privileged pos would never know
He’s doing it on purpose because as he said sugarcoating shit just doesn’t work with fat people as they advocate for being a fat pos, as he said he doesn’t respect fat people.
@@Ethan_la so how would you rather him say it. He's answering their questions with truth, would you rather him sugarcoat it and lie. Sometimes the truth hurts and you just have to accept that.
Being fat is 60% a choice, 30% cultural/upbringing, and 10% genetics. It’s a fact that a lot American food is fattening but depending of your makeup and upbringing, people just have to eat in a way they won’t become overweight. And don’t forget food is highly addictive especially sugary foods and drinks which most Americans consumes. There’s a lot of factors that goes into someone being fat but at the end of the day it’s ultimately a choice. If you can work and make money, create a whole family and deal with the tribulations of that, then you can definitely find a way to lose weight.
100% a choice for an adult in the US. Thermo chemistry works, there is no disease or disposition that thwarts thermo chemistry principles. People are fat because they eat more than they need. And anyone who wants to lose weight has the resources and ability to do so.
Exactly, a lot of people do not understand the MANY factors that go into weight loss, especially with access to the right foods. An example is a parent not being able to afford the “right” foods for their multiple children or family members. There are a ton of factors especially the cultural/upbringings which I think is the toughest to change. Losing weight is so different when you’re in the negative side of each of the factors you said, but not everyone can empathize and understand that.
The guy in the orange I felt spoke his opinion very well. He didn’t hate those who disagreed with him and acknowledged that everyone has their own experiences
Big fan of you guys but I think you guys missed the nail on the head, even the fitness side of people disagreed with Myron, the reason why I like aba and preach so much is because they’re are pretty good at pointing out the extremism, does Myron have very valid points ? Ofc he does but his statements are on that far side of things, and to me extremities on either side rather it’s the left or right can be detrimental, saying that if he were president he would force fat people into concentration camp which is unconstitutional rather it’s helping them or not it’s against freedom and is no better than when feminist say “all man commit this (insert crime here) therefore all men are evil”, it’s extremism on both sides.
yeah strawberry park starting to lose me nowdays. they got middle school sense of humor and speak on topics without doing a second of research. spreading bad information and providing zero positive takeaways in their videos
I'm genuinely so proud of this comment section 😭 A lot of yall proved you can think on your own and don't have to agree with EVERYTHING LLS says. Super commendable, especially since most of yall are really young and impressionable. It's okay to hold people accountable, but respect and sympathy plays a big part if you want to ACTUALLY see improvement from that person. Cruelty is self-motivated and is never meant to actually inspire anyone. In this case, that is losing weight. We can preach "calories in, calories out" all day long without a care for context, but no one will ever know that struggle unless they're in those shoes. Too many factors are in play with weightloss, especially if bad eating habits were engrained in your mind from infancy. Add the stressors of adulthood, and it's suddenly even more difficult fighting against everything you know
You guys do realize that Myron was not trying to help those guys. At the end he was the only one that just left without shaking anyone’s hands meaning he had no respect for anyone in the episode.
You can’t label being depressed with being overweight people can be underweight and be depressed, fit and be depressed. Depression is less about weight sure you can be depressed and overweight but it stems much deeper than weight
@@Zeldawrlddawg stfu all the viewers care you outcast 🤡 you’re literally a professional hater spamming “who cares” to literally every comment based on your comment history..
6:36 yall misinterpreted what he was saying. he was taking myron’s logic and using it against him to prove its wrong to do. needa stop d riding myron fr
The problem with Myron is that he isn’t respectful or at least sympathetic for people. Yes he makes good points but he’s a dick about it, and that has nothing to do with people being too sensitive or “can’t handle reality”. If he really knew how to be a man, he would know to respect others even if you don’t like them. It’s so sad that men follow him and think being an asshole alpha male is good smh
This is an L take, you don’t know what respect is. Myron was actually being very respectful in this video and you’ve never heard his takes or anything related and it shows. You commented this with your feelings you know nothing about being a man.
@@trustxtsurt "he was being very respectful in this video" when he stated himself he doesn't respect any fat person, fully contradicting that fact by choosing to speak in a way that is fully meant to be "blunt" and shocking with no regard for any level of respect. if you knew something about being a man you'd know that blatantly disrespecting people because of your viewpoints is immature asf, and while I agree that being fat isn't something you should be happy about, random people you just met that you know nothing about deserve a basic level of respect whether you agree with their viewpoints or not.
yes it has something to do with being sensitive, people are becoming much more senstive nowadays maybe due to low testerone(bad diet, obesity etc) and no proper father figure(divorces etc) just because you don't like the way he says it and his attitude doesn't make his points invalid or untrue.
Literally he would be rude and pass judgement and theyd be like “yeah he’s right” and then when anyone else did it they were “wrong” and “can’t handle the truth”
Them saying have u ever tried to shift your perspective to his because he looks “fit” is even worse. The notion that people of literally all shapes and sizes can’t be depressed?
@@SarahEmmi-qk6egIts not that they can’t be depressed. He’s saying that a majority of the time when people are depressed, it’s because of their own inadequacies as a person, which include people who are fat. Again, not all. Just a majority. People who truly take care of themselves have a lesser chance to be depressed.
I'm a 3rd year dietetic student. I don't think people realize how many FDA approved additives we have in our food in America that are ILLEGAL in other countries. There are people who essentially have to starve themselves or put 10+ hours/week in the gym to keep weight off because the food and ingredients we have accessible to us in this country are destroying us. When I start to see my own patients do you think me shaming them will work? Of course not. Weight loss is an individualistic multifactorial process that is not as simple as "calories in calories out". Ideally, it would be that simple! but telling that to the wrong person could inevitably kill them. Without compassion and patience you are just being a hater who never intended to help anyone.
Bullshit if you eat chicken breast and veggies and protein everyday in a calorie defecit you will ALWAYS lose weight it’s as simple as calories in and out, your a student and your lying bout shit like this ?? Always women who make up these lies and spread them
comment should be pinned, although the bodybuilders and coaches know a lot more than the average person… the people of the medical field are the ones that know the MOST
It’s funny that people admit you can be naturally skinny can struggle to gain weight. Yet, somehow to people in the comment section, it’s “impossible” for someone to be naturally fat and struggle to lose weight. Try telling a bony or skinny person to “just eat”. Nobody is saying that there’s an excuse to be fat. Hard work and dedication will always produce results. But people are so close minded about how hard it is for some people.
I agree with you to a point but it's 100x easier to cut stuff out than build stuff up. My friend eats ridiculously and doesn't put on any weight. Putting on weight with a very high metabolism is expensive and time consuming and for some you literally have to force feed yourself and feel sick. Losing weight is 100% harder for some but that's in the form of like not losing as many calories during sleep or something. You don't just spawn fat eating a healthy amount like you can as a skinny person. You can always start running, wear a weighted vest, etc. Eat less and more healthy, that literally saves you money. Its simpler to lose weight, if you put the work in to lose more calories than you gain, you lose weight. Simple. You can always crank up how many calories you lose, not always how many you gain. A skinny person can eat 2-3x the amount of calories that's "healthy" for their weight, age, height, etc. And still not gain a pound
@@colebuechel9722cap. I have a very high metabolism and after 4-5 months of going to the gym I went from 155 and im gonna probably hit 170 by the end of the month mind you im 6’1. It’s really all about how much effort you wanna put in. I’ve always been very skinny and I will say it’s easier to lose than gain but don’t say it’s impossible especially when your speaking for someone else
R u guys even listening in the beginning around the 8 minute mark he literally said “now what if I do the same thing to you” he didn’t just start judging Myron out of nowhere. Like damn listen
@@thegamewin100 he did it to prove a point tho ,gave them a taste of his own medicine💀 and bro i fw loveliveserve but man they dickeating like crazy
not to be mean, but do the two guys on the side ever have their own opinion? I noticed in every vid the guy in the middle has one opinion, and they always piggyback off of him 😭 I understand if you agree with the fresh and fit guy for the most part because he had some good points, but to ignore his extremeness and not even try to listen to what any of the other ppl in the video are trying to say, is interesting to me. I feel like you guys have a certain viewpoint, and you spend the whole video trying to back it instead of having a real conversation about it. Idk maybe it’s just me.
Rhino was talking about fitness culture being not toxic at all, and that's just wrong. Rob and Noah didn't even bat an eye, like rhino didn't even talk about the body image issues and they said nothing
fitness culture is inherently not toxic, the promotion of a healthy lifestyle is a net positive for all involved. obviously people exploit and use that to take advantage of less and informed and more vulnerable people.
@@oAve but that’s not the culture, it’s not like that’s what they’re promoting. it’s just bad apples. fitness culture is people like noel dyzel and whatnot
As a fat man, I agreed with myrion. Until he said depression is not real. I lost my brother to suicide and depression is a real thing. Mental health disorders and dis-regulations are most certainly a real thing.
He didn’t say all depression is not real, he said most of the time. That a majority of the time when people are depressed, it’s because of their own inadequacies as a person. And that depression could be healed if those people put in the time and work to build themselves up and become a better man. I’m sorry for your loss btw. God bless you and prayers for your brother 💯💪
“Plus-size” mannequins shouldnt be a problem bc not everyone looks a certain way. Even if you think obesity is bad, the mannequins arent a problem because people who may be overweight can see how clothes fit them instead of someone who is built differently. Same goes for extremely skinny people, mannequins would help them specifically see how clothes would fit them.
49:53 Soooo are they agreeing that you’re less of a man if you’re fat? Stg these guys have me agreeing with everything they say one vid and then throw all logic out the window next vid
Don’t watch if you’re gonna be sensitive, and yes you are less of a man if you’re fat. You’re obese and don’t have the strength or ability to make that change it’s called the “truth” if you don’t like that then you’re not a man and simply a bum.
I usually agree with most of LLS’s takes but this one felt too biased towards Myron. Yeah he makes good points, but his statements aren’t completely sound and often involve too much hatred or aggressiveness and single-minded. He believes it’s one way and can only see it that way, there are obviously gray areas.
sorry mate but ur saying u disagree with their takes and instantly says the only reason myrons reasonable takes invalid is the delivery. these dudes at the end of the day are defending the points. no diss but i think how soft u are is affecting ur thoughts on this video. at the end of the day if u feel the take is wrong because it backs a bully who has good takes ur just ignoring the actual point the entire video has conveyed.
I think Myron got right the "you're complaining about your treatment when there are people getting bombed in Gaza" point. I mean, people in Gaza are starving to death, whereas some people in America are eating themselves to death. Obesity is a first world problem, but it is a problem, nonetheless. Obviously, there are nuances. Some people have higher set points of weight where they can be healthy, and some people have health issues that make it difficult for them to control their weight. Zach looks like someone who does exercise/eat decently but has a high set point, while the others are on their journey toward reaching a healthy lifestyle, as mentioned in the video.
it’s not “set point” is “basal metabolic rate” aka the amount of calories your body burns at rest, guess what, no matter what it is if you eat less calories than you burn it’s mathematically impossible to gain weight, energy/matter can neither be created nor destroyed so saying that some people can’t lose weight even if they cut down their calories lower than their bmr is essentially implying they’re creating matter and energy out of nothing
@@Randomperson11121 set point is a theory, but it is not the same thing as BMR. Set point is the weight that your body tries tries to maintain when you're eating nutritious foods to satiety by manipulating your hunger and energy levels to make you want to eat or move to different degrees until your weight regulates to that range. There is some evidence behind it, but those following a standard western diet and sedentary lifestyle are going to be far from it, so it is a bit useless to them until they improve their lifestyles. Obviously, none of the fat guys besides maybe Zach are anywhere close to the weight at which they could be considered healthy, the theory just suggests that you can probably be a size 8 and still be healthy, no need to be a size 2. BMR is how many calories you burn combining your NEET and activity, it's just a different concept altogether. Set point theory does not negate CICO, it just provides an explanation for plateauing due to your body manipulating hormones.
@@jaxr.s.4647 of course your body would try to maintain whatever physical condition it finds itself, it’s called homeostasis. it’s up to you to lower your calories so your body would have to “burn fat” and adapt to a new so called “set point”, it’s like when you move from a hotter continent to a colder one, initially you’d barely be able to survive a minute outside without mountains of clothing because your body still wants to maintain the conditions it was in when in a different continent, but if you expose your body to different environment and circumstances it eventually adapts and then maintains itself in that situation, in this case possibly increasing your metabolism so you’d be able to keep warm. it’s called homeostasis, it’s mathematically impossible for you to eat less calories than your body needs and still gain weight, it’s all a matter of discipline to train your body to a new homeostasis
i get that yall are myron fans or whatever, and he does have some good points , but can you atleast try to listen to the other side? And listen to myron not as a friend/fan, but just as a normal viewer? Its frustrating when you've already decided before the vid even starts that everything that myron says is right and everything the fat people say is stupid. Pausing the vid after everything myron says to better explain what he was saying & water it down, and pausing it after the fat guys speak just to make fun of them. really? Like when the green fat guy body shamed myron, it was literally to prove a point and show "what if i do the same to you". And you could've at least talked about how myron needs to work on his tone, his choice of words etc, bcos if you want ppl to listen to u and take you seriously, these things matter. The meat riding was kinda crazy in this vid. (and before ya'll come for me saying im just fat and lazy and sensitive, im actually not fat, infact i have a fast metabolism and was very skinny my whole childhood, and now at 20 im physically in a very good place)
all the fat ppl just got emotional and were coping and made no good points. Complete annihilation. Ya the fat green blob said that shit and myron laughed while green dude got in his feelings. Its entertainment at the end of the day and myron did that
On the point of Myron, or whatever, discussing how he gained then lost the weight. He had intention. He gained with the intention to use the tools and knowledge he had to get it off. Some people are fat from childhood. Some people become fat because of mental health issues or health issues. How you got to the point of being fat can determine how hard it is for you to lose it. If all you know is being fat (like from childhood) then you don’t know where or how to start or how to stay consistent because no one taught you or told you. Not all things are straight black and white. If it was I don’t think the Jubilee video would be a thing.
Then as explained in the video you could spend the time to educate urself to lose the weight, I had the opposite problem and was very skinny from childhood and had to learn through the internet and trials and error to gain weight and muscle and I would now consider myself fit, 82kg at 15% body fat
Fitness info is free,go to any Library and read a book about health,or search among the millions of fitness videos,can't afford thr gym, there are many body weight exercises you can do,also you can improvise weights,for example,using a book bag filled with books to do squats,if you want something you can will get it,you past factors in and if you have a disease it it harder,but if people can fight cancer and be in para olympics with no legs breaking records.So your feelings are irrelevent,the world don't care about them,and if you choose to be fat,fine do you not saying you have to be shredded or what ever but being Healty. Being fat is a choice after you become an adult and you parents can't controll you anymore,so stop being in your feelings and just accept the facts
Rob saying, "If Myron was my mentor, my life would probably be in order.” Is absolutely insane neck. The fact that Rhino, Noah, & Rob didnt comment on the insane things Myron said, shows a lot😂 I doubt Rob & noah would go against Rhino anyway lmaoo Green suit guy annoyed tf out of me. Tall kinda overweight white guy and the overweight black guy were very reasonable I felt. The ripped blue shirt guy was kinda reasonable. Myron spewed a mix of facts, hate, and rage bait😭😭
i think all he’s saying is if myron was his mentor, in that he kept him accountable daily, his life would benefit. that’s not a crazy take considering the dude does have a relatively decent amount of status and seems to have his life in order. obv not all of his takes are logically sound
glad that someone finally acknowledged the fact that noah and rob glaze the hell out of ryan. i fuck with their content heavy, but i feel like their opinions get overshadowed by constantly trying to validate the real star of the show, Rhino.
Tbh shame doesn't seem to help most people. For some people, it makes them shut down but for others it does nothing. Often getting people excited and interested in working out and finding a routine that works and is sustainable for them tends to work.
I love these guys but I didn't like their opinions on depression. You shouldn't talk so confidently about something if you have never had to suffer through it.
@@diamond4344They don’t? “Hardworking people” off themselves in the thousands every year just in the United States alone. Japan and a whole forests dedicated to it
@@EveningShowWithJeremiah 🤣 u talking about the suicide forest in Japan. Not everyone is a hard worker in Japan bro. Also if you are hard worker u don’t have time to feel depressed ur always gonna be focused on something else. The people who get depressed are the ones that are inadequate in life.
I usually appreciate y'alls takes because you all typically don't just follow the crowd, but this was just wild. Defending someone saying people should be in concentration camps for being overweight is literally inhumane, and it doesn't really matter what he was "trying to say" because that wording mattered. Even as someone who has an eating disorder, I can still understand, sympathize, and just simply respect people who are overweight while understanding that lifestyle is unhealthy.
these guys are always taking the side of what you guys call leftist. 2 genders, ugly is ugly, fat is fat. defending this is absolutely not a curveball if uve watched their other videos. and it seems ur nit picking details even tho he stated what he really meant from concentration camps. he did not mean it the same way as what ur thinking. he litterally explained himself later on.
at the end of the day if you want to help someone almost all of the time shaming is the worse and obviously easier option. please look it up and fact check for yourself. being fat is unhealthy. how do we help? we approach with empathy(actually giving them reason and making them accountable), tell them what they can do, and holding them accountable. how do you guys feel about this idea? how do you feel about shame vs empathy? let’s not forget tho that we don’t live in a perfect world so people have to learn how they’re going to be affected by negative comments.
shaming someone is way more affective. my brother in law is almost 300 pounds and I tell him everyday that he's fat and he's gonna die if he doesn't do something and I had to keep telling him that until he finally started losing weight. he also just had a kid so I had to tell him do you want your son to grow up without a dad because your gonna die if you keep up with this. shaming works
@@needum9212 shaming can work sometimes no doubt. i don’t know if id call that shaming tho at least in the since of hurting the person. like telling him that he needs to help himself to be there for his kids i would call that empathy but then again i wasn’t there to know how it was said. can i ask u a question though? do you think he may have had mental illness? i’m only asking because it took him so long to respond. maybe he needed a different type of help. good to hear that he’s doing better tho ofc.
@@inease4321 he has but I don’t think he doing it consistently enouph but he is now at 285 so the eating is going well. But I do catch him drinking sometimes which doesn’t help
“Depression is not real most of the time” Is insane. Myron is right about some stuff but this is how fresh and fit fathers incels. They say some accurate stuff that should be obvious and gather the bunch of them and sprinkle in their insanely stupid takes and the people think “If he’s right about this thing then he’s probably right about other things”. Depression kills so many people and is something thousands of people are actively going through and he’s saying it’s not real because he luckily hasn’t gone through it.
It’s obvious, what he means by that is, “most” of the time people who don’t have actual depression (which is real and something that effects ur brain) and are just in a low state of their life because of their situation ( for example being overweight which could effect ur mood and ruin ur social and romantic life and cause loneliness), a lot of them write it off as depression when it medically isn’t. That’s what I believe he meant by that statement but idk
i don't wanna be that guy but im pretty sure Myron (i hate him too im not glazing) is talking about how it's self inflicted and caused by weak minded people most of the time, Not that it literally doesn't exist. Depression is literally just a result of laziness from my personal experience of myself and people i know irl. Once all of us got off our ass and started putting in the effort in our bodies and careers/social circles we almost immediately started making progress. I am aware that depression is real im not saying it isn't but unless you are going through a significant breakup, like a divource and fighting for custody of your children or about to go homeless etc depression most definitely "isn't real" in the sense people claim it is, A mass majority of depressed people i've spoken to and interated with always have it stim from being too lazy to fix an issue like their own physique or not working on socializing etc
the problem when someone is in a higher position they look down on others lower than them and say "depression isnt real" when indeed it is. but the problem is can you really afford to be depressed in this economy.
Concentration camp is a term that has way more significance that cannot be used lightly in a positive manner. Maybe go back to history class and learn about the impact of that term. You can’t just say that for shock value and be able to get away with it
- I am overweight. - Ok. Eat less. - Actually, I work out and I'm still overweight. - Eat less. - I have a condition that makes it harder for me to lose weight. - Eat less. There is not way around it, and anything else is an excuse. Is it simple? Yes. Is it easy? No.
Don't promote eating less bro. You want to make eating disorders for teens and children reading your advice? Just eat in moderation and do diets that work for you. 🤷🏽♀️
@@Beepboophehe In my specific example the individual already works out, yet they are not losing weight. That can only mean they are eating too much. I don't promote starving, I promote getting the amount of calories you need, which can easily be figured out and tracked.
I love you guys but I just wanted to give you guys a different take on the fat peoples perspective. I was 234 pounds my junior year of highschool and starting my senior year I decided to lose weight. I played basketball so exercise wasn’t the issue but I started to monitor what I ate (junk food, carbs) and that progressively turned into me only eating one meal or even a snack a day and telling myself that was good enough. I got down to 150 pounds and I damn near couldn’t get skinnier but somehow still felt fat all the time. I am nowhere how I once was but periodically still catch myself having bad relations with food (in terms of only allowing myself to eat things that are “healthy”) I feel like you have to sympathize with bigger people because it’s a lot mentally to lose weight. Especially if you always grown up as the “bigger kid.” Just wanted to give you guys a different take because I felt like you guys were pretty passionate about how no one should be fat, which is understandable but it’s definitely a battle to lose weight and have a great mental state when you are a fatter individual.
You had body dysmorphia, happens to everyone even those with some of the best physiques in the world have it, but it all comes down to discipline when it comes to weight loss
I rarely work out, eat more junk than I should and I'm a slim person who finds it hard to gain weight. That being said, I don't think it's fair to pass judgement on people for being overweight when it could be due to genetics, viruses, or endocrine disorders. It can be exasperated by an unhealthy lifestyle, but that is not the root cause
Lmao do these guys just choose to miss the point? The dude in the green blazer was flipping Myron’s argument and talking about his body to show him how rude it is to do it to fat people. He literally explained that when he said it.
@@lucimma9409Who said it was deep? And they missed a few more points in this video but that’s beside my original comment. If there’s 3 people watching and listening I don’t see how they all misunderstand things so often. From what I’ve seen they just agree with whatever the others say.
@@epking6195 Bro he’s literally saying that if he was president he would force all overweight people into a camp where the only thing they can do it work out or other words “concentrate on working out” if it wasn’t that deep bro wouldn’t have added the president part to the start of that statement
@@epking6195 lets not act like myron doesn't do this shit on purpose. Even if he has good points, he'll say stuff in the worst way possible because he wants to get a reaction out of ppl, wants viral clips, and somehow stay relevant in the internet lol
The issue with Myron is that he talks like he's chronically online, he doesn't show any respect whatsoever and that's not how society runs. Yes, you earn respect, but you at least show respect for everyone, you don't need to have respect. There's a different. Myron doesn't do either.
@@jaypey8253 In this video it was random people to him though and he showed 0 respect, had no manners and was just blatantly rude. I don't care about his takes, but man, I don't like his attitude
@@RiverStiixHe already said he doesn’t respect people that are overweight, he wasn’t disrespectful towards the fit guys was he? Answer is no he was heated because what he said was the truth but the overweight people let everything fly over their head because he didn’t say it in the way that was politically correct.
As a formerly obese person (23 years fat, 12 years fit) the takes here are mostly horrendous by Myron, the guy in green and the commentators; and the host was frustrated because Myron was constantly yapping when there were 3 other fit panelists
@@nyasha5426Yuh i agree that’s what needs to be said but his delivery was beyond questionable. Completely shows a lack of empathy and respect for another person which makes you not even really wanna listen to what he says in the first place. And i completely agree from an objective standpoint that most things he said were true; but if your delivery is horrible…🤷🏾♂️
Bruh yall are clearly so biased towards Myron, didn’t push back against anything he said but if anybody disagreed with him yall have plenty to say. Don’t bother reacting if all yall are gonna do is meatride the whole time
@@yprandoe2702saying depression isn’t real is the most ignorant statement. Not only is it clearly real but it shows how dumb Myron is. Just because you haven’t gone through it in your own life doesn’t mean other people can’t
@@gabepizarro8899depression is a real thing, but it’s something you can bounce back from. Using it as an excuse will work the first time, not every time.
@@Ronnie2Jacked he doesnt keep it 100. he knows how to sound smart to a bunch of meatheads and they just gobble his words up like sheep. what he says is essentially baseless claims that have no evidence to back him up, he just hopes it sound believable enough.
28:03 I agree. I think that body positivity isn’t about accepting unhealthy lifestyles. It’s about loving yourself at the stage you are now. It doesn’t mean you can’t strive for something different. It doesn’t mean you can’t set a goal to lose or gain weight. It just means you are not shaming yourself or others for how they present physically. At the end of the day, someone being fat or fit does not impact you and it’s pretty disturbing how hung up people are on how others look.
The video just felt like he was trying to promote the rabbit hole redpill ideology or whatever. Ngl at one point I thought like this until I stopped myself because I realized how stupid it is.
No, speak for yourselves. I have NEVER looked at someone and thought they were disgusting. Personally as a healthcare professional I’ve felt concern, yes, but I have genuinely never internally felt disgusted by anyone even before obtaining my license. Just speaking for myself though. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but don’t make assumptions for others. Appreciate the choice of video, good topic.
Just about everything he’s saying is objectively true. It’s not even a matter of subjectivity. Whether you like his personality or not, that indicates nothing about his argument.
You guys were defending Myron for some of the insane opinions. Especially how you think that you feel disgusted when you see overweight people... I don't think anyone should feel that way when they see someone just based on their physical appearance
@@Jonathan-sm5oq If you feel disgusted looking at someone who is not evil or done any objective wrong, you're weird. Nikocado is obviously not sound of mind and needs help. Nobody sane throws their entire life away and spazes on camera for views. I feel sorry for Niko (empathy, something Myron lacks severely), not disgust. Disgust is seeing vile shit, not damn humans bro
@@fakedan6568You know there are different kinds of disgust right? There is digust in the sense that you feel resentment towards someone (which you described) and then there is disgust that you feel grossed out. For you to say that you don’t feel disgust when seeing a morbidly obese person or maybe someone who’s skinny, showcases that you are living in delusion or are just trying to cottle those out there that look like that.
It’s funny how everyone is saying Myron is telling the hard truth or not sugarcoating. The problem is Myron is acting like the things he is saying applies to everyone, when they only apply to some people. And to all the people saying he is speaking facts, you have no personal experience or research to withdraw from, just assumptions. Anyone who has been fat from childhood knows how hard it is. If all you know is being skinny, and you never had to put much thought into it, then how are you so sure you know someone else’s experience in their body? There is literal scientific evidence that shows that there is a genetic predisposition to obesity. It doesn’t mean that it’s an excuse, but it gives some understanding that it my be harder for some people than others.
As someone who was about 300lbs and is now 200 I do believe Myron is primarily speaking facts. From him saying bullying works, that people choose not to put in the effort, that your less attractive, tend to be less confident, and so forth. It's his delivery that throws people off and away from the point hes making. He's being blunt, and people can respond negatively from that
It doesn't matter if your fat from childhood, as long as you don't have a condition that makes you fat then it's just about discipline and doing what you have to do. He's aware of the fact that there are special cases but most of the time it's from not being disciplined. Look at some other comments man there are a ton of formerly fat people saying that Myron is right but ig you just refuse the believe that.
Fresh and fit needs to shush. So you’re just gonna look at someone and automatically assume they are lazy ? How do you know they aren’t currently trying to loose weight ?
I mean it’s not exactly wrong just depends past tense it could be before they was attempting to lose weight sure lazy when they was trying to lose weight n stuff… there’s fat rich ppl .. they could be lazy when it comes to focusing on their health vs getting money
You're acting like people can no longer have assumptions. You're telling me that when you look at a big person, you automatically assume they are active, hardworking go-getters? Be serious...
If your fat yes im assuming your lazy and not discipline im not gunna assume that your hard working ,or dedicated to lose weight because you dont look like it .We always judge ppl in our head just tha you wouldn't want to say it out loud because then you be like be a asshole or get cancelled .I mean sometimes the truth hurts 🤷♂️
Because they’re fat like what? Obviously they were lazy in the past if they gained enough to be fat, once they lose weight then they’ll be respected. Quit crying and quit coping, fresh and fit explains the harsh reality of the world
its not much of a reaction if you have already decided who is right and who is wrong before you even pressed play. also this video would have been at least 15 minutes shorter if they didn't spend all that additional time trying to water down and rationalize myrons very extreme takes
@@regispanorama1899Fat concentration camps and depression not being real aren’t extreme takes? Going against freedom and scientific backing isn’t extreme?
Idk, maybe you guys are just meaner than everyone else. Cause i have never actually had “disgust” for a human being. Doesn’t really matter who, but I’ve never looked at someone and had disgust. And we’re talking about physiques here 😭
As a person diagnosed with mild depression. Depression feels like being in a trapped cage that you have to fight to get out of everyday life given lucky I don’t have severe depression/anxiety so I don’t deal with this everyday but I do have my spouts every month or so. I still loss 20lbs…
I believe people have a lack of knowledge and a fear of the gym, fear of failure, fear of time being wasted and fear of what their life looks like after
Elaborate bc simply agreeing does not mean "glazing". No need to try and act like you have high ground when you can't even explain what you're trying to say lol
I don't know.. I'm spilt on some of these things. Like the depression.. there's different forms to it. You can feel happy somedays and still have and be diagnosed with depression. And then the "there's no equality its how the world works" part, while that may be true... yeah, just because something is true doesn't mean it's right or should be the way things are. A lot of rich people be unhappy which is where the "money can't buy happiness" saying came from, and that's because it doesn't for some. You can be rich, fit, successful, at the end of the day life goes after everyone.
As a person who used to be obese (305lbs) 4 years ago. I took it upon myself and now weigh 205lbs and consistently go to the gym. I think that there are some outside factors to not being fit, but the main reason is yourself. You are in control of yourself nobody else
I cant lie yall missed me on this one you said "if i was fat i would listen to whatever the fit person is saying" when he is literally talking about how depression is mostly not real if he said lets jump off a bridge guys you following him and this is coming from a fit guy this is just pure bias clearly 😑
It’s obvious, what he means by that is, “most” of the time people who don’t have actual depression (which is real and something that effects ur brain) and are just in a low state of their life because of their situation ( for example being overweight which could effect ur mood and ruin ur social and romantic life and cause loneliness), a lot of them write it off as depression when it medically isn’t. That’s what I believe he meant by that statement but idk
I find it strange how people are rubbed the wrong way that they agree with Myron. There’s nothing wrong with agreeing with him since everything he said was correct for the most part
I am diagnosed with clinical depression but I still agree with Myron's take. It is the minds response telling us we have failed and we need to find a way to start accomplishing things in our life. Whether that be through status, wealth, or fitness.
@@epking6195so he’s saying blatantly controversial statements for viral clips like the guy in green said? lol smh, since when do people have to say wild ass statements to make a point? If he was a charismatic guy he’d have no issue but instead it seems like he has to resort to that BS, but ay I guess it’s working on some of yall 🤷 if he had said fat camp it would have hit just as hard and wouldn’t have been nearly as out of pocket
@@rayjean2584 no bc he actually believes it it isn’t for tiktok he’s stating these as examples and facts. bcz it is at the end of the day there’s rehab y can’t this be an option. u think it’s sum sort of torture method when in reality it’ll js help build up fit and healthy people . fat concentration camp and fat camp basically the same thing u have to understand the underlying message and nkt js take his words literal.
Myron doesn’t really care about this stuff, he just wants to be rude. If my man really cared about “wasting resources” then he would donate his wealth instead of having boat parties.
@@tsm_slappie5924 then what's your rebuttle that you have with your so called "research"? Yall just talking to talk at this point cause yall dont like Myron💀
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Alright bro if you really wanna hear it ill tell ya. Firstly his point about the fat concentration camp, The TV show The Biggest Loser is exactly the same concept as what he is talking about, that same show where a study was conducted where only 5 of the 14 contestents were able to stay within a 1% of their baseline weight. Sustainability is key to a successful diet, not control. Also, most of his arguements revolve around the use of shame and that it works, short answer, it doesn't. There is even empirical evidence backing this, though I doubt you even know what that means. He is simply throwing out hollow opinions that meatriders like you wanna latch onto before even considering he might be wrong. 🎤drop.
There’s a difference between telling the truth versus telling somebody that they have the right to get bullied because of the way that they look because trust me I’ve been bullied more than half my life and being bullied is not a pleasant experience
Myron has a lot of good points but he takes some of them too far instead of clarifying the boundaries of his claims, being depressed from a loved one dying has nothing to do with failing to fulfill the duties of a man
I was 115 pounds at 5'7 and fell into a depressive alcoholic state and gained went up to 165 pounds(gained 50ib) in a span of 6 months all my friends pointed it out and called me a fat ass consistently, guess what i dropped back down to 130 and I'm now 145 with muscle and im happier with my day to day life 10X more if your man the truth is the best thing you can hear.
for people that know that everything that happens to them is their own fault, Myron was being true to everybody... but for people that haven't recognized that, it will never be the correct way to have addressed that situation because truth is hard to handle when u know u not living the life u want to live
Myron looking at these dudes up and down like that is comedic timing 😭
I noticed that too 😂
Nahhhhhhh 😅frfr
lol 400lb
It’s not that I disagreed with myrion. I agreed with him probably 90%. It’s that he purposely said things in a way to aggravate people, to get a reaction out of them. He chooses the most antagonizing/ vexing words possible. Like the putting fat ppl in concentration camp’s statement. He could have said putting fat ppl on a weight loss program or sum.
And ur gonna say “ur soft because u can’t handle the truth”. Well when someone purposely says things to piss ppl off u can’t be shocked when they spaz out.
But that Myrion’s whole game anyway: get a reaction out of ppl, get clicks, get views, stay relevant, and appear strong to his audience bc “the other side can’t handle the truth”.
fr, he has good points but the way he chooses to say things just makes people not wanna listen to him. And he obviously does it to get viral clips and reactions lol
Bingo
Normie comment
Absolutely 💯
Fat concentration camp is wild asf😭
Tbh it sounds like it would work, a camp where obese people can all workout together and support each other and are given the tools they need to succeed, that doesn’t sound wild to me.
@@ChrisCali831when you start forcing people to do something is just one more step to giving the government more power. If the government can have say on how you look it will have a say in what you think what you say and what you do. Also I don’t want higher taxes just so my neighbor can lose weight
@@ChrisCali831 Maybe don’t call it a concentration camp for starters 😂
@@rebirthofgodrics907Make it a private non-profit 😂
@@comeatmebro8120 So he didn’t say it the way you want him to say it?? Does that make his statement not true?
I ain’t gon lie my doctor told me I had one of the slowest metabolisms she ever tested, and I was an absolute fatass ( I’m talking 5’8 220 pounds) I got bullied every day up until 9th grade because the summer after 8th grade the thing that fueled me to work out every day and eat good and know my macros was the fear of getting bullied by even more kids in a bigger school. I’m now 6’0 170 and I played on my school’s football team basketball team and I ran track. It’s not fair that I have to work out so much more than others to keep the look I want but life’s not fair and I know some people don’t get motivated by getting bullied but I did and my life has completely changed.
Good job bro
Proud of u gangy
I'm the opposite bruh I was 5'10 115 lbs and I had to force feed every day for 3 years straight to get to 5'11 165 lbs and I still struggle to maintain this weight I'll easily lose 5 lbs if I don't constantly eat all day
God bless you bro!! I used to also be obese and lost weight and built muscle. Keep it up!
there are ways you can boost your metabolism
Myron could have worded what he's saying better because at the end of the day he's talking to real people with feelings as well. I was on his side but it got to the point where I was like "Damn bro.... Calm down... These are people too"
facts
He needs to learn that having empathy is not a bad thing, and doesn't make you less of a 'mAn'. Infact its a pretty important trait to have to be a good human being.
tbh hes kinda just saying a lot of bs and people are just blindly listening to him
@@divyaa4459Shame too cause i did agree with most things he was saying in the video from an objective standpoint; it’s the way he worded everything and showed no empathy for other people that completely turned me off.
@@divyaa4459 Yeahhh... Just due to his attitude alone I wouldn't date him lol
Myron wasn’t there to have his mind changed. bro wanted to just talk shit💀
No one is laughing
he dont be lying tho
yeah but he made it funny af without him this entire video would have been boring af
He’s speaking facts
He was speaking the harsh truth
"you deserve to be bullied" from myron was outta pocket 💀
not really bullying is needed to build character
@@abahlememela7514 If your the one bullying someone tho ur lowkey a POS 😂😂
@abahlememela7514 yeah bullying actually stems from the word building 🙄
@@abahlememela7514 ^
@@abahlememela7514 no one deserve to be bullie yall are weird 💀
Rob is the type of guy to say "welp, that was something" after doing it
Yeah and 😂
If you don't like that then don't watch his channel.
@@collinracer2506 ??
@@divyaa4459 his fanbase is toxic lmao
@@collinracer2506 these are jokes bruh everyone saying this love Rob
@@collinracer2506u really a grown ass man meat riding dude who don’t know u 😂😂😂
The thing is, Myron is saying facts and not sugar coating but he is doing it at the most extreme extent it makes his points invalid. Its all about the delivery.
Which is a shame, ppl focus too hard on how something is being said vs what is being said
I think the way you say things matter A LOT. It’s definitely an objective factor in how humans communicate. I bet you a lot of people would listen to him if he changed the delivery. Delivery matters.
No it’s not, if you’re living in a food dessert and have very very limited options to healthy foods…it’s the position you’re born/placed in. You privileged pos would never know
He’s doing it on purpose because as he said sugarcoating shit just doesn’t work with fat people as they advocate for being a fat pos, as he said he doesn’t respect fat people.
@@Ethan_la so how would you rather him say it. He's answering their questions with truth, would you rather him sugarcoat it and lie. Sometimes the truth hurts and you just have to accept that.
There's 7 guys having a conversation... and then there's Myron
Corny
Myron was speaking facts cry about it
Ur a feminist blue hair
@@realcartophe’s just yapping
There's guys trying to cuddle each others feelings... and then there's the guy who calls it how it is
Being fat is 60% a choice, 30% cultural/upbringing, and 10% genetics. It’s a fact that a lot American food is fattening but depending of your makeup and upbringing, people just have to eat in a way they won’t become overweight. And don’t forget food is highly addictive especially sugary foods and drinks which most Americans consumes. There’s a lot of factors that goes into someone being fat but at the end of the day it’s ultimately a choice. If you can work and make money, create a whole family and deal with the tribulations of that, then you can definitely find a way to lose weight.
good explaination
100% a choice for an adult in the US. Thermo chemistry works, there is no disease or disposition that thwarts thermo chemistry principles. People are fat because they eat more than they need. And anyone who wants to lose weight has the resources and ability to do so.
Fat isn’t genetics r word😂
Exactly, a lot of people do not understand the MANY factors that go into weight loss, especially with access to the right foods. An example is a parent not being able to afford the “right” foods for their multiple children or family members. There are a ton of factors especially the cultural/upbringings which I think is the toughest to change. Losing weight is so different when you’re in the negative side of each of the factors you said, but not everyone can empathize and understand that.
@@lazerx7296that’s what I’m thinking right now? What’s a fat gene?
watching this while hitting chest and triceps was some of the greatest motivation I've ever received
15 hours later update i cant feel my arms
😂
Good job sir
The guy in the orange I felt spoke his opinion very well. He didn’t hate those who disagreed with him and acknowledged that everyone has their own experiences
Big fan of you guys but I think you guys missed the nail on the head, even the fitness side of people disagreed with Myron, the reason why I like aba and preach so much is because they’re are pretty good at pointing out the extremism, does Myron have very valid points ? Ofc he does but his statements are on that far side of things, and to me extremities on either side rather it’s the left or right can be detrimental, saying that if he were president he would force fat people into concentration camp which is unconstitutional rather it’s helping them or not it’s against freedom and is no better than when feminist say “all man commit this (insert crime here) therefore all men are evil”, it’s extremism on both sides.
yeah strawberry park starting to lose me nowdays. they got middle school sense of humor and speak on topics without doing a second of research. spreading bad information and providing zero positive takeaways in their videos
@@rotisseriechickenlover-jb4cc Damn you are on point
its entertainment at the end of the day and myron roasting these fat blobs was funny asl
This comment 100%
@@rotisseriechickenlover-jb4cc nah fr it’s disappointing
I'm genuinely so proud of this comment section 😭 A lot of yall proved you can think on your own and don't have to agree with EVERYTHING LLS says. Super commendable, especially since most of yall are really young and impressionable.
It's okay to hold people accountable, but respect and sympathy plays a big part if you want to ACTUALLY see improvement from that person. Cruelty is self-motivated and is never meant to actually inspire anyone. In this case, that is losing weight. We can preach "calories in, calories out" all day long without a care for context, but no one will ever know that struggle unless they're in those shoes. Too many factors are in play with weightloss, especially if bad eating habits were engrained in your mind from infancy. Add the stressors of adulthood, and it's suddenly even more difficult fighting against everything you know
i guess the comments arent finding a middle ground lol
FR
fr 😂
You guys do realize that Myron was not trying to help those guys. At the end he was the only one that just left without shaking anyone’s hands meaning he had no respect for anyone in the episode.
he clearly stated already though that he had no respect for fat people in the beginning of the episode
@@IzonTimdang 😂
He said he doesn’t respect fat people Doofus, watch the video
@@cevan5042 I'm just using one example that they didn't see relax
@@IzonTim And I'm pointing out that even in the end he still dosen't respect them
You can’t label being depressed with being overweight people can be underweight and be depressed, fit and be depressed. Depression is less about weight sure you can be depressed and overweight but it stems much deeper than weight
The Myron glazing is crazy though 😭💀
You mean truth recognition?
The reaction we’ve all been waiting for😭
Who cares
@@Zeldawrld i care
@@Zeldawrlddawg stfu all the viewers care you outcast 🤡 you’re literally a professional hater spamming “who cares” to literally every comment based on your comment history..
@@Zeldawrld Whoever here.
@@ZeldawrldWhy you watching then?
6:36 yall misinterpreted what he was saying. he was taking myron’s logic and using it against him to prove its wrong to do. needa stop d riding myron fr
thing is myron’s logic didn’t apply to what he was saying, he was making excuses for being fat. that’s it.
you should rewatch because fatass logic did not apply properly
They are to dumb to realize nuance, and they agree with myron for the wrong reasons.
Right, picked up on that, too. The ccksucking was insane this video. 🤷♂️
Right, sometimes they don’t be listening😭
The problem with Myron is that he isn’t respectful or at least sympathetic for people. Yes he makes good points but he’s a dick about it, and that has nothing to do with people being too sensitive or “can’t handle reality”. If he really knew how to be a man, he would know to respect others even if you don’t like them. It’s so sad that men follow him and think being an asshole alpha male is good smh
This is an L take, you don’t know what respect is. Myron was actually being very respectful in this video and you’ve never heard his takes or anything related and it shows. You commented this with your feelings you know nothing about being a man.
@@trustxtsurt "he was being very respectful in this video" when he stated himself he doesn't respect any fat person, fully contradicting that fact by choosing to speak in a way that is fully meant to be "blunt" and shocking with no regard for any level of respect. if you knew something about being a man you'd know that blatantly disrespecting people because of your viewpoints is immature asf, and while I agree that being fat isn't something you should be happy about, random people you just met that you know nothing about deserve a basic level of respect whether you agree with their viewpoints or not.
and it doesn’t encourage those ppl to get better😭 so what’s his actual goal? to keep them fat and suppress his own insecurities.
yes it has something to do with being sensitive, people are becoming much more senstive nowadays maybe due to low testerone(bad diet, obesity etc) and no proper father figure(divorces etc) just because you don't like the way he says it and his attitude doesn't make his points invalid or untrue.
Rhino, rob and Noah was just on Myron’s meat the whole time literally 😭
I bet your fat 😂
@@heno2706lmao they don’t know you.😭
@@heno2706 but hey keep defending them🤷♂️ maybe they’ll see you on your pfp and fly you out. Mid bitches and their fandom over randoms 😭
@@heno2706 ohhhh shit nah you’re right😂.
Literally he would be rude and pass judgement and theyd be like “yeah he’s right” and then when anyone else did it they were “wrong” and “can’t handle the truth”
myron saying depression isn't real is actually crazy
Them saying have u ever tried to shift your perspective to his because he looks “fit” is even worse. The notion that people of literally all shapes and sizes can’t be depressed?
@@SarahEmmi-qk6eg fr plenty of jacked ppl are depressed
@@SarahEmmi-qk6egIts not that they can’t be depressed. He’s saying that a majority of the time when people are depressed, it’s because of their own inadequacies as a person, which include people who are fat. Again, not all. Just a majority. People who truly take care of themselves have a lesser chance to be depressed.
yes depression is real but it is up to you if you want to get better and take that route.
It’s always the people with no ambition saying this , I’ve been alive 27 years and never once have I said “ I’m depressed “
I'm a 3rd year dietetic student. I don't think people realize how many FDA approved additives we have in our food in America that are ILLEGAL in other countries. There are people who essentially have to starve themselves or put 10+ hours/week in the gym to keep weight off because the food and ingredients we have accessible to us in this country are destroying us. When I start to see my own patients do you think me shaming them will work? Of course not. Weight loss is an individualistic multifactorial process that is not as simple as "calories in calories out". Ideally, it would be that simple! but telling that to the wrong person could inevitably kill them. Without compassion and patience you are just being a hater who never intended to help anyone.
Finally! An educated response that I 100% agree with!
Bullshit if you eat chicken breast and veggies and protein everyday in a calorie defecit you will ALWAYS lose weight it’s as simple as calories in and out, your a student and your lying bout shit like this ?? Always women who make up these lies and spread them
comment should be pinned, although the bodybuilders and coaches know a lot more than the average person… the people of the medical field are the ones that know the MOST
There are also multiple additives the US bans that are present in other developed countries. It’s vise versa
Your a women only u get empathy ! Men have to face the cruel real world !
It’s funny that people admit you can be naturally skinny can struggle to gain weight. Yet, somehow to people in the comment section, it’s “impossible” for someone to be naturally fat and struggle to lose weight. Try telling a bony or skinny person to “just eat”. Nobody is saying that there’s an excuse to be fat. Hard work and dedication will always produce results. But people are so close minded about how hard it is for some people.
facts
I would rather be fat then skinny trust buddy
I agree with you to a point but it's 100x easier to cut stuff out than build stuff up. My friend eats ridiculously and doesn't put on any weight. Putting on weight with a very high metabolism is expensive and time consuming and for some you literally have to force feed yourself and feel sick. Losing weight is 100% harder for some but that's in the form of like not losing as many calories during sleep or something. You don't just spawn fat eating a healthy amount like you can as a skinny person. You can always start running, wear a weighted vest, etc. Eat less and more healthy, that literally saves you money. Its simpler to lose weight, if you put the work in to lose more calories than you gain, you lose weight. Simple. You can always crank up how many calories you lose, not always how many you gain. A skinny person can eat 2-3x the amount of calories that's "healthy" for their weight, age, height, etc. And still not gain a pound
@@colebuechel9722cap. I have a very high metabolism and after 4-5 months of going to the gym I went from 155 and im gonna probably hit 170 by the end of the month mind you im 6’1. It’s really all about how much effort you wanna put in. I’ve always been very skinny and I will say it’s easier to lose than gain but don’t say it’s impossible especially when your speaking for someone else
R u guys even listening in the beginning around the 8 minute mark he literally said “now what if I do the same thing to you” he didn’t just start judging Myron out of nowhere. Like damn listen
But he still did it 😂😂 that’s their point
@@thegamewin100 he did it to prove a point tho ,gave them a taste of his own medicine💀 and bro i fw loveliveserve but man they dickeating like crazy
@@thegamewin100but it was a hypothetical Is what the OP is trynna say
@@thegamewin100 they clearly missed the point the green fat guy was tryna make, and so did you
@@PrinceMarShon yea you’re smaller than all these dudes 💀 bro sounded hurt
not to be mean, but do the two guys on the side ever have their own opinion? I noticed in every vid the guy in the middle has one opinion, and they always piggyback off of him 😭 I understand if you agree with the fresh and fit guy for the most part because he had some good points, but to ignore his extremeness and not even try to listen to what any of the other ppl in the video are trying to say, is interesting to me. I feel like you guys have a certain viewpoint, and you spend the whole video trying to back it instead of having a real conversation about it. Idk maybe it’s just me.
No it's not just you
Rhino was talking about fitness culture being not toxic at all, and that's just wrong. Rob and Noah didn't even bat an eye, like rhino didn't even talk about the body image issues and they said nothing
fitness culture is inherently not toxic, the promotion of a healthy lifestyle is a net positive for all involved. obviously people exploit and use that to take advantage of less and informed and more vulnerable people.
@@bmkbigpapitherefore giving it toxic aspects, you just contradicted your own statement 💀
@@oAve but that’s not the culture, it’s not like that’s what they’re promoting. it’s just bad apples. fitness culture is people like noel dyzel and whatnot
As a fat man, I agreed with myrion. Until he said depression is not real. I lost my brother to suicide and depression is a real thing. Mental health disorders and dis-regulations are most certainly a real thing.
sorry man
He didn’t say all depression is not real, he said most of the time. That a majority of the time when people are depressed, it’s because of their own inadequacies as a person. And that depression could be healed if those people put in the time and work to build themselves up and become a better man. I’m sorry for your loss btw. God bless you and prayers for your brother 💯💪
every time that green suit fat guy talked i wanted to die 😭😭😭😭
me too
No fr he was trying so hard to make it seem like he was making such good points 😭😭😭
Fr
With feminine energy
Gang😂😂😂
“Plus-size” mannequins shouldnt be a problem bc not everyone looks a certain way. Even if you think obesity is bad, the mannequins arent a problem because people who may be overweight can see how clothes fit them instead of someone who is built differently. Same goes for extremely skinny people, mannequins would help them specifically see how clothes would fit them.
49:53 Soooo are they agreeing that you’re less of a man if you’re fat? Stg these guys have me agreeing with everything they say one vid and then throw all logic out the window next vid
Don’t watch if you’re gonna be sensitive, and yes you are less of a man if you’re fat. You’re obese and don’t have the strength or ability to make that change it’s called the “truth” if you don’t like that then you’re not a man and simply a bum.
Dude Fr I can’t support them anymore ngl they just switch up
I usually agree with most of LLS’s takes but this one felt too biased towards Myron. Yeah he makes good points, but his statements aren’t completely sound and often involve too much hatred or aggressiveness and single-minded. He believes it’s one way and can only see it that way, there are obviously gray areas.
I completely agree. Myron has some valid points but his inability to see other povs makes trying to listen to him and take his advice hard.
Once logic enters the chat room, feelings no longer matter.
Ryan was on one of their podcasts so it makes sense that he would automatically agree with his statements
the "one way" is the most logical and definitely the only pov in the video backed by actual evidence and real world studies
sorry mate but ur saying u disagree with their takes and instantly says the only reason myrons reasonable takes invalid is the delivery. these dudes at the end of the day are defending the points. no diss but i think how soft u are is affecting ur thoughts on this video. at the end of the day if u feel the take is wrong because it backs a bully who has good takes ur just ignoring the actual point the entire video has conveyed.
I think Myron got right the "you're complaining about your treatment when there are people getting bombed in Gaza" point. I mean, people in Gaza are starving to death, whereas some people in America are eating themselves to death. Obesity is a first world problem, but it is a problem, nonetheless. Obviously, there are nuances. Some people have higher set points of weight where they can be healthy, and some people have health issues that make it difficult for them to control their weight. Zach looks like someone who does exercise/eat decently but has a high set point, while the others are on their journey toward reaching a healthy lifestyle, as mentioned in the video.
it’s not “set point” is “basal metabolic rate” aka the amount of calories your body burns at rest, guess what, no matter what it is if you eat less calories than you burn it’s mathematically impossible to gain weight, energy/matter can neither be created nor destroyed so saying that some people can’t lose weight even if they cut down their calories lower than their bmr is essentially implying they’re creating matter and energy out of nothing
@@Randomperson11121 set point is a theory, but it is not the same thing as BMR. Set point is the weight that your body tries tries to maintain when you're eating nutritious foods to satiety by manipulating your hunger and energy levels to make you want to eat or move to different degrees until your weight regulates to that range. There is some evidence behind it, but those following a standard western diet and sedentary lifestyle are going to be far from it, so it is a bit useless to them until they improve their lifestyles. Obviously, none of the fat guys besides maybe Zach are anywhere close to the weight at which they could be considered healthy, the theory just suggests that you can probably be a size 8 and still be healthy, no need to be a size 2. BMR is how many calories you burn combining your NEET and activity, it's just a different concept altogether. Set point theory does not negate CICO, it just provides an explanation for plateauing due to your body manipulating hormones.
@@jaxr.s.4647 of course your body would try to maintain whatever physical condition it finds itself, it’s called homeostasis. it’s up to you to lower your calories so your body would have to “burn fat” and adapt to a new so called “set point”, it’s like when you move from a hotter continent to a colder one, initially you’d barely be able to survive a minute outside without mountains of clothing because your body still wants to maintain the conditions it was in when in a different continent, but if you expose your body to different environment and circumstances it eventually adapts and then maintains itself in that situation, in this case possibly increasing your metabolism so you’d be able to keep warm. it’s called homeostasis, it’s mathematically impossible for you to eat less calories than your body needs and still gain weight, it’s all a matter of discipline to train your body to a new homeostasis
Holy u destoryed them@@Randomperson11121
i get that yall are myron fans or whatever, and he does have some good points , but can you atleast try to listen to the other side? And listen to myron not as a friend/fan, but just as a normal viewer? Its frustrating when you've already decided before the vid even starts that everything that myron says is right and everything the fat people say is stupid. Pausing the vid after everything myron says to better explain what he was saying & water it down, and pausing it after the fat guys speak just to make fun of them. really? Like when the green fat guy body shamed myron, it was literally to prove a point and show "what if i do the same to you". And you could've at least talked about how myron needs to work on his tone, his choice of words etc, bcos if you want ppl to listen to u and take you seriously, these things matter. The meat riding was kinda crazy in this vid.
(and before ya'll come for me saying im just fat and lazy and sensitive, im actually not fat, infact i have a fast metabolism and was very skinny my whole childhood, and now at 20 im physically in a very good place)
Nobody is reading this cry harder
all the fat ppl just got emotional and were coping and made no good points. Complete annihilation. Ya the fat green blob said that shit and myron laughed while green dude got in his feelings. Its entertainment at the end of the day and myron did that
Bruh you are a bot@@okorokingsley2840
You sound like a woman in her feelings
I agree, even though I do agree with myron on some points, the green guy was making a point and it totally went over there heads lol
On the point of Myron, or whatever, discussing how he gained then lost the weight. He had intention. He gained with the intention to use the tools and knowledge he had to get it off. Some people are fat from childhood. Some people become fat because of mental health issues or health issues. How you got to the point of being fat can determine how hard it is for you to lose it. If all you know is being fat (like from childhood) then you don’t know where or how to start or how to stay consistent because no one taught you or told you. Not all things are straight black and white. If it was I don’t think the Jubilee video would be a thing.
Then as explained in the video you could spend the time to educate urself to lose the weight, I had the opposite problem and was very skinny from childhood and had to learn through the internet and trials and error to gain weight and muscle and I would now consider myself fit, 82kg at 15% body fat
@@Hellogandy that’s great! I’m slim and have been working out to gain!
Fitness info is free,go to any
Library and read a book about health,or search among the millions of fitness videos,can't afford thr gym, there are many body weight exercises you can do,also you can improvise weights,for example,using a book bag filled with books to do squats,if you want something you can will get it,you past factors in and if you have a disease it it harder,but if people can fight cancer and be in para olympics with no legs breaking records.So your feelings are irrelevent,the world don't care about them,and if you choose to be fat,fine do you not saying you have to be shredded or what ever but being Healty. Being fat is a choice after you become an adult and you parents can't controll you anymore,so stop being in your feelings and just accept the facts
Bullshit excuse. And adult is responsible for how he looks stop this pussy shit
But you can’t use that as an excuse when you’re a grown man in the west
Rob saying, "If Myron was my mentor, my life would probably be in order.” Is absolutely insane neck. The fact that Rhino, Noah, & Rob didnt comment on the insane things Myron said, shows a lot😂 I doubt Rob & noah would go against Rhino anyway lmaoo
Green suit guy annoyed tf out of me. Tall kinda overweight white guy and the overweight black guy were very reasonable I felt. The ripped blue shirt guy was kinda reasonable. Myron spewed a mix of facts, hate, and rage bait😭😭
i think all he’s saying is if myron was his mentor, in that he kept him accountable daily, his life would benefit. that’s not a crazy take considering the dude does have a relatively decent amount of status and seems to have his life in order. obv not all of his takes are logically sound
glad that someone finally acknowledged the fact that noah and rob glaze the hell out of ryan. i fuck with their content heavy, but i feel like their opinions get overshadowed by constantly trying to validate the real star of the show, Rhino.
@@woah-3xevery video
@@woah-3xliterally what I was thinking
This comment is a very measured take, appreciate this. I’m currently watching this now, so I’m gonna come back to this after I finish
ryan’s a fan of bro in the fresh & fit shirt obviously …
He was in their podcast 🤷
Your a liberal 🤡
He is friends with him
Who would've thought lmfao
Who are u a fan of then?
Tbh shame doesn't seem to help most people. For some people, it makes them shut down but for others it does nothing. Often getting people excited and interested in working out and finding a routine that works and is sustainable for them tends to work.
I love these guys but I didn't like their opinions on depression. You shouldn't talk so confidently about something if you have never had to suffer through it.
Hard working people don’t have time to be depressed. Like Myron said depression is the reflection of your inadequacies in life
How do you know what any of them have gone thru?
@@diamond4344depression can be an imbalance and issue with ur brain, it isnt a choice to have real depression
@@diamond4344They don’t? “Hardworking people” off themselves in the thousands every year just in the United States alone. Japan and a whole forests dedicated to it
@@EveningShowWithJeremiah 🤣 u talking about the suicide forest in Japan. Not everyone is a hard worker in Japan bro. Also if you are hard worker u don’t have time to feel depressed ur always gonna be focused on something else. The people who get depressed are the ones that are inadequate in life.
I usually appreciate y'alls takes because you all typically don't just follow the crowd, but this was just wild. Defending someone saying people should be in concentration camps for being overweight is literally inhumane, and it doesn't really matter what he was "trying to say" because that wording mattered. Even as someone who has an eating disorder, I can still understand, sympathize, and just simply respect people who are overweight while understanding that lifestyle is unhealthy.
This soft feminine generation is the biggest problem
Not his wording 😂😂😂
these guys are always taking the side of what you guys call leftist. 2 genders, ugly is ugly, fat is fat. defending this is absolutely not a curveball if uve watched their other videos. and it seems ur nit picking details even tho he stated what he really meant from concentration camps. he did not mean it the same way as what ur thinking. he litterally explained himself later on.
@@footballforlife2643 how bro felt typing that: 😈😈😈💣💣🔥🔥
you can just take the whole convo out of context. Wild comment.
Wasn’t that deep bro
Guy in green suit was Halla emotional 🤣🤣🤣
Ong
All that fat getting to his heart 😂
LLOOL THIS COMMENT IS SO HILARIOUS YALL
you could also say myron was getting emotional
@@itswilbur52 nah he was speaking nothing but the truth, people are just too soft to understand
at the end of the day if you want to help someone almost all of the time shaming is the worse and obviously easier option. please look it up and fact check for yourself. being fat is unhealthy. how do we help? we approach with empathy(actually giving them reason and making them accountable), tell them what they can do, and holding them accountable. how do you guys feel about this idea? how do you feel about shame vs empathy? let’s not forget tho that we don’t live in a perfect world so people have to learn how they’re going to be affected by negative comments.
shaming someone is way more affective. my brother in law is almost 300 pounds and I tell him everyday that he's fat and he's gonna die if he doesn't do something and I had to keep telling him that until he finally started losing weight. he also just had a kid so I had to tell him do you want your son to grow up without a dad because your gonna die if you keep up with this. shaming works
@@needum9212 shaming can work sometimes no doubt. i don’t know if id call that shaming tho at least in the since of hurting the person. like telling him that he needs to help himself to be there for his kids i would call that empathy but then again i wasn’t there to know how it was said. can i ask u a question though? do you think he may have had mental illness? i’m only asking because it took him so long to respond. maybe he needed a different type of help. good to hear that he’s doing better tho ofc.
@@needum9212but has he started working out? If not it’s not working
You said "is 300 lbs" and not "was", so I'd assume its not working
@@inease4321 he has but I don’t think he doing it consistently enouph but he is now at 285 so the eating is going well. But I do catch him drinking sometimes which doesn’t help
“Depression is not real most of the time” Is insane. Myron is right about some stuff but this is how fresh and fit fathers incels. They say some accurate stuff that should be obvious and gather the bunch of them and sprinkle in their insanely stupid takes and the people think “If he’s right about this thing then he’s probably right about other things”. Depression kills so many people and is something thousands of people are actively going through and he’s saying it’s not real because he luckily hasn’t gone through it.
It’s obvious, what he means by that is, “most” of the time people who don’t have actual depression (which is real and something that effects ur brain) and are just in a low state of their life because of their situation ( for example being overweight which could effect ur mood and ruin ur social and romantic life and cause loneliness), a lot of them write it off as depression when it medically isn’t. That’s what I believe he meant by that statement but idk
i don't wanna be that guy but im pretty sure Myron (i hate him too im not glazing) is talking about how it's self inflicted and caused by weak minded people most of the time, Not that it literally doesn't exist. Depression is literally just a result of laziness from my personal experience of myself and people i know irl. Once all of us got off our ass and started putting in the effort in our bodies and careers/social circles we almost immediately started making progress. I am aware that depression is real im not saying it isn't but unless you are going through a significant breakup, like a divource and fighting for custody of your children or about to go homeless etc depression most definitely "isn't real" in the sense people claim it is, A mass majority of depressed people i've spoken to and interated with always have it stim from being too lazy to fix an issue like their own physique or not working on socializing etc
the problem when someone is in a higher position they look down on others lower than them and say "depression isnt real" when indeed it is. but the problem is can you really afford to be depressed in this economy.
It really ain’t, I’ve been though near death that got rods in my body now from surgery. Delete the past and push forward, or your left behind
i agree. some people commend those types of creators for doing that bc they know it gets views but i just think that hurts the world.
38:33 nah bro Myron is actually out of his mind and it’s crazy how y’all not calling him out🤣
You misinterpreted what he said, you’re soft face reality
@atk.splash how did I misinterpreted what he said 💀💀 i think it speaks for itself genius
Concentration camp is a term that has way more significance that cannot be used lightly in a positive manner. Maybe go back to history class and learn about the impact of that term. You can’t just say that for shock value and be able to get away with it
Call him out for what?
@@trustxtsurthow do you misinterpret “they should be put in a concentration camp”? Lmao them three were dickriding Myron the whole vid
- I am overweight.
- Ok. Eat less.
- Actually, I work out and I'm still overweight.
- Eat less.
- I have a condition that makes it harder for me to lose weight.
- Eat less.
There is not way around it, and anything else is an excuse.
Is it simple? Yes. Is it easy? No.
Don't promote eating less bro. You want to make eating disorders for teens and children reading your advice? Just eat in moderation and do diets that work for you. 🤷🏽♀️
@@Beepboophehe In my specific example the individual already works out, yet they are not losing weight. That can only mean they are eating too much.
I don't promote starving, I promote getting the amount of calories you need, which can easily be figured out and tracked.
@@Beepboopheheread it again dunbass
@@TLRHFN Yes 💯 I agree
I eat one meal a day, not even trying. Just eat less
I love you guys but I just wanted to give you guys a different take on the fat peoples perspective. I was 234 pounds my junior year of highschool and starting my senior year I decided to lose weight. I played basketball so exercise wasn’t the issue but I started to monitor what I ate (junk food, carbs) and that progressively turned into me only eating one meal or even a snack a day and telling myself that was good enough. I got down to 150 pounds and I damn near couldn’t get skinnier but somehow still felt fat all the time. I am nowhere how I once was but periodically still catch myself having bad relations with food (in terms of only allowing myself to eat things that are “healthy”) I feel like you have to sympathize with bigger people because it’s a lot mentally to lose weight. Especially if you always grown up as the “bigger kid.” Just wanted to give you guys a different take because I felt like you guys were pretty passionate about how no one should be fat, which is understandable but it’s definitely a battle to lose weight and have a great mental state when you are a fatter individual.
Just run, simple
You had body dysmorphia, happens to everyone even those with some of the best physiques in the world have it, but it all comes down to discipline when it comes to weight loss
“I talked to 3,000 women” is insane
podcast
He has on his podcast
He literally do that on live
It’s literally a fact tho
Idk about 3000 but it might be close
I've personally never seen a professional athlete with an over weight spouse
Doesn’t exist
English footballer Declan Rice
@@ZooWeeWeeMama she isn't overweight
@@ZooWeeWeeMama right but the point is, 1 in how many professional athletes?
@@edderl1943 it’s still one. You said never seen any and they gave you one.
I rarely work out, eat more junk than I should and I'm a slim person who finds it hard to gain weight. That being said, I don't think it's fair to pass judgement on people for being overweight when it could be due to genetics, viruses, or endocrine disorders. It can be exasperated by an unhealthy lifestyle, but that is not the root cause
Lmao do these guys just choose to miss the point? The dude in the green blazer was flipping Myron’s argument and talking about his body to show him how rude it is to do it to fat people. He literally explained that when he said it.
I was thinking the same thing lol
Ive noticed it happen alot through multiple videos. Not sure if its on purpose or cuz it appeases a certain audience
or maybe they just didnt pay enough attention 😱 its not that deep bruh ppl miss things
Difference is he only did it cause he wa triggered, which Myron acknowledged. Also, Myron never complained about being called small
@@lucimma9409Who said it was deep? And they missed a few more points in this video but that’s beside my original comment. If there’s 3 people watching and listening I don’t see how they all misunderstand things so often. From what I’ve seen they just agree with whatever the others say.
39:11 Nah defending that statement is actually wild.
Omg it’s not bro😂😂 u gotta b at least 11-12 yrs old to not understand the underlying message ffs
@@epking6195 Bro he’s literally saying that if he was president he would force all overweight people into a camp where the only thing they can do it work out or other words “concentrate on working out” if it wasn’t that deep bro wouldn’t have added the president part to the start of that statement
@@epking6195so if yo mom got overweight you’d let people walk up to her and call her names and put her in a concentration camp to lose weight? 🤔
@@epking6195 lets not act like myron doesn't do this shit on purpose. Even if he has good points, he'll say stuff in the worst way possible because he wants to get a reaction out of ppl, wants viral clips, and somehow stay relevant in the internet lol
I get what he (hopefully) meant. But he said it in the worst way possible
The issue with Myron is that he talks like he's chronically online, he doesn't show any respect whatsoever and that's not how society runs. Yes, you earn respect, but you at least show respect for everyone, you don't need to have respect. There's a different. Myron doesn't do either.
I DONT agree with his takes, but he doesn't find random people in public and be rude to them, he's just stating his opinions on a show
@@jaypey8253 In this video it was random people to him though and he showed 0 respect, had no manners and was just blatantly rude. I don't care about his takes, but man, I don't like his attitude
@@RiverStiixHe already said he doesn’t respect people that are overweight, he wasn’t disrespectful towards the fit guys was he? Answer is no he was heated because what he said was the truth but the overweight people let everything fly over their head because he didn’t say it in the way that was politically correct.
As a formerly obese person (23 years fat, 12 years fit) the takes here are mostly horrendous by Myron, the guy in green and the commentators; and the host was frustrated because Myron was constantly yapping when there were 3 other fit panelists
he was talking facts bro . u can take it as yap if u want but it’s js facts
just about all of what he said was true it sounds like you just dislike his delivery which is understandable
All of his takes were perfectly fine, just the wording was questionable. It’s what the people need to hear
@@nyasha5426Yuh i agree that’s what needs to be said but his delivery was beyond questionable. Completely shows a lack of empathy and respect for another person which makes you not even really wanna listen to what he says in the first place. And i completely agree from an objective standpoint that most things he said were true; but if your delivery is horrible…🤷🏾♂️
@@nyasha5426bro at one point he literally said that fat guys are lesser than fit guys. If you don’t think that’s objectively wrong you need help
Bruh yall are clearly so biased towards Myron, didn’t push back against anything he said but if anybody disagreed with him yall have plenty to say. Don’t bother reacting if all yall are gonna do is meatride the whole time
What is there to push back about?
Beacuse he’s speaking the truth and keeping it 100 it’s just how he’s saying it makes it look bad
@@yprandoe2702saying depression isn’t real is the most ignorant statement. Not only is it clearly real but it shows how dumb Myron is. Just because you haven’t gone through it in your own life doesn’t mean other people can’t
@@gabepizarro8899depression is a real thing, but it’s something you can bounce back from. Using it as an excuse will work the first time, not every time.
@@Ronnie2Jacked he doesnt keep it 100. he knows how to sound smart to a bunch of meatheads and they just gobble his words up like sheep. what he says is essentially baseless claims that have no evidence to back him up, he just hopes it sound believable enough.
BLUE PLAID SHIRT looks BETTER than EVERYBODY on the FIT side in my opinion🤷🏽♀️JS
Ryan was on Myron’s meat the whole video holyyyyyy 🤣
If you’re big js say that bro
Cry 😂
Just say you're a low testosterone soy boy bro
Fr
Bro's prolly the guy in the green suit.
cleveland brown jr got triggered
😂deadass bro
idk this was a red pill channel until i saw yall defend myron for every obvious clip farming statements. get off yall knees dawg
it wasnt really glazing myron it was more hating on the fat green guy
they just agree with his points. how is that disk riding?
maybe because what myron said resonate with their beliefs?
@@tjreal2k i don't think they disagreed or called out any of his outrageous takes during this hour video but were quick to do it with the fat people
@@CalebBBQ did you watch the video?
28:03 I agree. I think that body positivity isn’t about accepting unhealthy lifestyles. It’s about loving yourself at the stage you are now. It doesn’t mean you can’t strive for something different. It doesn’t mean you can’t set a goal to lose or gain weight. It just means you are not shaming yourself or others for how they present physically. At the end of the day, someone being fat or fit does not impact you and it’s pretty disturbing how hung up people are on how others look.
Bro Myron was the whole reason that episode became the channels most viewed video, by a landslide no less, it's not even close lmao.
lol some of the stuff myron said was so insane and u guys were trying so hard to make him seem right on a few of his takes lol. It's ok to be wrong😂
I couldn’t even watch the full video because Myron was slowly rotting my brain cells.
Myron wasn’t rotting my brains cells he was annoying and so was the green dude
Real I had to pause Thai vid sooo many times😭
The video just felt like he was trying to promote the rabbit hole redpill ideology or whatever. Ngl at one point I thought like this until I stopped myself because I realized how stupid it is.
@@thefionaaayo you cute 👀
His voice is so grating
some next level glazing by yall i cant lie
Not you repeating Internet brain-rot. You'd call anything glazing without any reason
Fr
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who was thinking this 💀🙏🏽
@@mara0633this whole video is reason 😂😂😂
@@bd8037 that's not an answer lol
No, speak for yourselves. I have NEVER looked at someone and thought they were disgusting. Personally as a healthcare professional I’ve felt concern, yes, but I have genuinely never internally felt disgusted by anyone even before obtaining my license. Just speaking for myself though. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but don’t make assumptions for others. Appreciate the choice of video, good topic.
.. so u never felt disgusted by someone that did something u thought was nasty ? Or saw someone that looked dirty etc ?
@@kingrp9587 of course he/she is, but the point is about being disgusted about "fat" people.
🧢 🧢
Lies 🧢🧢🧢 peoples with your mindset are the problem with society
Stop the cap you liar. 😂if you look at a fat person you would not wanna be them.
The way y’all d riding Myron so much is crazy.
Literally
Cap
@@_.thealtbutton._3483not cap kinda
Just about everything he’s saying is objectively true. It’s not even a matter of subjectivity. Whether you like his personality or not, that indicates nothing about his argument.
Myron is a loser but he’s not wrong. No point in being fat there is 0 benefits lol
You guys were defending Myron for some of the insane opinions. Especially how you think that you feel disgusted when you see overweight people... I don't think anyone should feel that way when they see someone just based on their physical appearance
Look at nikocado Avocado and tell me you don't feel disgusted when you look at him.
Bro its natural to be disgusted, stop caping you've felt that way
@@Jonathan-sm5oq If you feel disgusted looking at someone who is not evil or done any objective wrong, you're weird. Nikocado is obviously not sound of mind and needs help. Nobody sane throws their entire life away and spazes on camera for views. I feel sorry for Niko (empathy, something Myron lacks severely), not disgust. Disgust is seeing vile shit, not damn humans bro
@@fakedan6568You know there are different kinds of disgust right? There is digust in the sense that you feel resentment towards someone (which you described) and then there is disgust that you feel grossed out. For you to say that you don’t feel disgust when seeing a morbidly obese person or maybe someone who’s skinny, showcases that you are living in delusion or are just trying to cottle those out there that look like that.
It’s funny how everyone is saying Myron is telling the hard truth or not sugarcoating. The problem is Myron is acting like the things he is saying applies to everyone, when they only apply to some people. And to all the people saying he is speaking facts, you have no personal experience or research to withdraw from, just assumptions. Anyone who has been fat from childhood knows how hard it is. If all you know is being skinny, and you never had to put much thought into it, then how are you so sure you know someone else’s experience in their body? There is literal scientific evidence that shows that there is a genetic predisposition to obesity. It doesn’t mean that it’s an excuse, but it gives some understanding that it my be harder for some people than others.
As someone who was about 300lbs and is now 200 I do believe Myron is primarily speaking facts. From him saying bullying works, that people choose not to put in the effort, that your less attractive, tend to be less confident, and so forth. It's his delivery that throws people off and away from the point hes making. He's being blunt, and people can respond negatively from that
It doesn't matter if your fat from childhood, as long as you don't have a condition that makes you fat then it's just about discipline and doing what you have to do. He's aware of the fact that there are special cases but most of the time it's from not being disciplined. Look at some other comments man there are a ton of formerly fat people saying that Myron is right but ig you just refuse the believe that.
@@collinracer2506 have some empathy bro, everything is always easier to say than to actually put into actions.
agree at everything you said @2grandbaby854
So a calorie deficit and going to the gym 3 times a week doesn’t work for everyone ?
32:16 : LOL! The Jubilee moderator with the “Who hurt you?” response to Myron. 😂 He looooves that one.
Fresh and fit needs to shush. So you’re just gonna look at someone and automatically assume they are lazy ? How do you know they aren’t currently trying to loose weight ?
I mean it’s not exactly wrong just depends past tense it could be before they was attempting to lose weight sure lazy when they was trying to lose weight n stuff… there’s fat rich ppl .. they could be lazy when it comes to focusing on their health vs getting money
if you're massively overweight there's about a 100% chance you are lazy lol
You're acting like people can no longer have assumptions. You're telling me that when you look at a big person, you automatically assume they are active, hardworking go-getters? Be serious...
If your fat yes im assuming your lazy and not discipline im not gunna assume that your hard working ,or dedicated to lose weight because you dont look like it .We always judge ppl in our head just tha you wouldn't want to say it out loud because then you be like be a asshole or get cancelled .I mean sometimes the truth hurts 🤷♂️
Because they’re fat like what? Obviously they were lazy in the past if they gained enough to be fat, once they lose weight then they’ll be respected. Quit crying and quit coping, fresh and fit explains the harsh reality of the world
That green over weight dude really had no idea what he was talking about💀💀
He's spewing word salad 🙄
its not much of a reaction if you have already decided who is right and who is wrong before you even pressed play. also this video would have been at least 15 minutes shorter if they didn't spend all that additional time trying to water down and rationalize myrons very extreme takes
I'm saying💀 myron said lets send fat people to concentration camps and they were like lets hear him out!!!
Facts the meat riding was crazy in this video😂
They maybe extreme but he is in the right
Extreme takes? U mean telling ppl they are in control of what they eat? Wow SO EXTREME
@@regispanorama1899Fat concentration camps and depression not being real aren’t extreme takes? Going against freedom and scientific backing isn’t extreme?
Idk, maybe you guys are just meaner than everyone else. Cause i have never actually had “disgust” for a human being. Doesn’t really matter who, but I’ve never looked at someone and had disgust. And we’re talking about physiques here 😭
What about jaba the hut? Cus there are sum real life examples of those
watch nickacado avacado and come back to this comment...
@@zekite6467ok, but that’s an extreme example. He would be disgusting if he was skinny too. He’s just a nasty person.
Then you’re not human. Stop lying for likes you’re soft and can’t take shame
ok so you wouldnt be disgusted by a human being if he had bad hygeine and smelled like shit and never showered?
Bro in green asking for uber eats all day long in his phone but "doesn't have the tools" to search for a healthy sustainable diet lol
that was weird to me too. Like, you can't just eat less and do cardio? like you can't walk or jog?
As a person diagnosed with mild depression. Depression feels like being in a trapped cage that you have to fight to get out of everyday life given lucky I don’t have severe depression/anxiety so I don’t deal with this everyday but I do have my spouts every month or so. I still loss 20lbs…
I believe people have a lack of knowledge and a fear of the gym, fear of failure, fear of time being wasted and fear of what their life looks like after
The problem is people dont realize depression is not just “sadness”
@@xrhyke6329 yeah everyone loves to say they are depressed nowadays without really knowing it’s more than just feeling down
Rob the type of guy to say “are we there yet” on a road trip
ryan doing tricks on myron wow
so defending facts is glazing ffs grow up 😂
you doing tricks for the feminists now
@@sadscientist9995how does that correlate? Really shows where your heads at
@kidcourage5777 these men are obsessed with feminism
Y’all glazing Myron too much overall he right but y’all wrong about a lot honestly
What did he say that was wrong
Elaborate bc simply agreeing does not mean "glazing". No need to try and act like you have high ground when you can't even explain what you're trying to say lol
have you ever agreed what your mommy and daddy said? is that glazing? grow up and grow a pair
I don't know.. I'm spilt on some of these things. Like the depression.. there's different forms to it. You can feel happy somedays and still have and be diagnosed with depression. And then the "there's no equality its how the world works" part, while that may be true... yeah, just because something is true doesn't mean it's right or should be the way things are. A lot of rich people be unhappy which is where the "money can't buy happiness" saying came from, and that's because it doesn't for some. You can be rich, fit, successful, at the end of the day life goes after everyone.
As a person who used to be obese (305lbs) 4 years ago. I took it upon myself and now weigh 205lbs and consistently go to the gym. I think that there are some outside factors to not being fit, but the main reason is yourself. You are in control of yourself nobody else
The moderator forgot that he's only supposed to moderate and not argue as if he's on one of the sides.
Myron just made the whole argument invalid with his presence.
I cant lie yall missed me on this one you said "if i was fat i would listen to whatever the fit person is saying" when he is literally talking about how depression is mostly not real if he said lets jump off a bridge guys you following him and this is coming from a fit guy this is just pure bias clearly 😑
And then they said fit culture promoting unsustainable diets isn’t toxic 😂
It’s obvious, what he means by that is, “most” of the time people who don’t have actual depression (which is real and something that effects ur brain) and are just in a low state of their life because of their situation ( for example being overweight which could effect ur mood and ruin ur social and romantic life and cause loneliness), a lot of them write it off as depression when it medically isn’t. That’s what I believe he meant by that statement but idk
Chronic depression is a load of bs man. You need discipline
@@Hellogandy yeah but the way he phrased it was just horrible
omfg again another delusional commenter not talking any sense ffs grow up
Not y’all supporting myron 😭
How can you not? The man speaks nothing but the truth, people are just soft minded that they can’t or do not want to comprehend what he is saying
I find it strange how people are rubbed the wrong way that they agree with Myron. There’s nothing wrong with agreeing with him since everything he said was correct for the most part
I’m ngl this vid just made me realize that I gotta lose weight gang😭😭
Good, make that change for yourself
7:40 imagine making a medical issue seem less important by trying to get into a social issue you're personally offended by
Right they’re completely different issues
I am diagnosed with clinical depression but I still agree with Myron's take. It is the minds response telling us we have failed and we need to find a way to start accomplishing things in our life. Whether that be through status, wealth, or fitness.
im eating pizza rn
No one asked you
me too
@@Zeldawrldfax
i’m eating some hibachi gang 💯🤝🏾
I'm tryna see if I wanna cook or get some take out like y'all 😂
"middle ground" is the name of the show myron didnt go on to find a middle ground but there cant be a middle ground with being fat
hes just speaking his mind green shirt wasnt looking for middle ground either bc both think they are in the right
@@CalebBBQtrue, true
@@CalebBBQ yea i agree
The bias towards Myron is so blatant 😬 defending the concentration camp statement is wild, yall
bc he doesnt actually mean put them in a concentration camp. them obviously hes referring to a fat camp or smn
Grow up
bro ffs UNDERSTAND THE UNDERLYING MESSWGE BEHIND IT CLEARLY U FEED INTO HIS TRICK WHERE HE SAYS SHI SO BLATANT ON PURPOSE FUCK
@@epking6195so he’s saying blatantly controversial statements for viral clips like the guy in green said? lol smh, since when do people have to say wild ass statements to make a point? If he was a charismatic guy he’d have no issue but instead it seems like he has to resort to that BS, but ay I guess it’s working on some of yall 🤷 if he had said fat camp it would have hit just as hard and wouldn’t have been nearly as out of pocket
@@rayjean2584 no bc he actually believes it it isn’t for tiktok he’s stating these as examples and facts. bcz it is at the end of the day there’s rehab y can’t this be an option. u think it’s sum sort of torture method when in reality it’ll js help build up fit and healthy people . fat concentration camp and fat camp basically the same thing u have to understand the underlying message and nkt js take his words literal.
myron the type of guy to tell a homeless person to get a job
Myron doesn’t really care about this stuff, he just wants to be rude. If my man really cared about “wasting resources” then he would donate his wealth instead of having boat parties.
The one time I actually agree with Myron. Dude was speaking facts and no one had a good answer to combat him with
bro he did not speak facts I guess most people dont even bother to do any basic level of research before claiming some bs opinion is "facts"
@@tsm_slappie5924 then what's your rebuttle that you have with your so called "research"? Yall just talking to talk at this point cause yall dont like Myron💀
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Alright bro if you really wanna hear it ill tell ya. Firstly his point about the fat concentration camp, The TV show The Biggest Loser is exactly the same concept as what he is talking about, that same show where a study was conducted where only 5 of the 14 contestents were able to stay within a 1% of their baseline weight. Sustainability is key to a successful diet, not control. Also, most of his arguements revolve around the use of shame and that it works, short answer, it doesn't. There is even empirical evidence backing this, though I doubt you even know what that means. He is simply throwing out hollow opinions that meatriders like you wanna latch onto before even considering he might be wrong. 🎤drop.
There’s a difference between telling the truth versus telling somebody that they have the right to get bullied because of the way that they look because trust me I’ve been bullied more than half my life and being bullied is not a pleasant experience
Dude didn’t go and talk about Myron being small he was literally using it as an example for what Myron has been doing he wasn’t actually serious
I would rather jump out of a plane than spend one sec in a room with Myron.
This is glaze
Myron has a lot of good points but he takes some of them too far instead of clarifying the boundaries of his claims, being depressed from a loved one dying has nothing to do with failing to fulfill the duties of a man
I was 115 pounds at 5'7 and fell into a depressive alcoholic state and gained went up to 165 pounds(gained 50ib) in a span of 6 months all my friends pointed it out and called me a fat ass consistently, guess what i dropped back down to 130 and I'm now 145 with muscle and im happier with my day to day life 10X more if your man the truth is the best thing you can hear.
for people that know that everything that happens to them is their own fault, Myron was being true to everybody... but for people that haven't recognized that, it will never be the correct way to have addressed that situation because truth is hard to handle when u know u not living the life u want to live