Gunpowder Plot: Part 1 | Critical Role: VOX MACHINA | Episode 31
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Scanlan finds himself alone, caught in a Briarwood trap! Meanwhile, the party fuels the fire of rebellion, but will the price the town of Whitestone pays be too high? The revolution has begun, and nothing can stop it now!
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The fact that Scanlan convinced the party to let him take on an entire house of bad guys on his own is impressive enough, but the fact that he was right about being able to handle it is just incredible
That’s why I never get why people want to play melee fighters. Spell casters are absurdly more impactful.
A mid level fighter can kill a man in one round, a mid level Wizard/Sorcerer/Bard can destroy an entire town.
@@trapical its not about power its about the feeling
@@trapical How abt level 20 Scanlan altering the whole world
when you can teleport instantly 500 feet away in the same turn that you can create an AoE crowd control ability, being a distraction is the easiest thing in the world when no casters are present. Thats why his first question was if there were any obvious spell casters around. 1 counterspell and he was dead.
Technically you can't do that, @Alex Gulino! If you want to cast 2 spells in the same turn (one Bonus Action spell, one Standard Action spell), one of them has to be a Cantrip; you can't have 2 slot-using spells on the same turn! Matt allows it, and that's fine, but rule-wise you can't do stuff like that! Otherwise you end up with a Tiberius situation where he can cast 2 Fireballs on the same turn with his Sorcerer abilities, and that gets way too strong!
As for @trapical's comment: Games like D&D are not about being the strongest! Sure some people like to play it that way, but it's in large part a role-playing game! So a martial class might fit the role you want to play than a caster! For exemple, if you're making a former gladiator, or an ex-military soldier, or even a mercenary: Wizards and Sorcerers don't fit that role at all, but Fighter and Barbarians would!
It was during this episode that Sam realized his joke character was no joke.
Orion stopped trying to upstage him lol
Its funny because 3rd edition Bard was nothing to scoff at if played well (had to get creative with illusions, he had no blasty spells like Lightninf Bolt). But, in 5e, he's a BEAST
Never played Pathfinder but I'll guess, since it's a revision of 3e D&D, that bard shared similarities. That and Orion doing all kindsa stuff must have contributed to Scanlan thinking his class was weak
YEUP! GO SCANLAN GO!
@@jordanw2009 I mean, sorcerers are basically designed to be blasters with the potential to dish out a lot of damage per round, over a wide area. Bards, meanwhile, are primarily meant to be more of a support, buffing allies or debuffing enemies - especially the kind of bard Sam made. They're far from weak or helpless, but you'd have to pick a very specific set of spells and tune your bard very particularly to outshine a dedicated blaster sorcerer. Orion didn't even need to really try that hard to have Tiberius overshadow most of Scanlan's magic contributions.
That said, it's nice to see Sam flexing Scanlan's magic more now that he's the party's only source of arcane magic. Tiberius isn't there to dish out the arcane pain, so Scanlan has to pick up the slack.
@@mrcopycat2355 I played a bard in pathfinder once. It was years ago so I don't remember all of the specifics, but the highest level ability basically involves matching the tempo of a performance with a musical instrument to an enemy's heart beat and just gradually speeding up the tempo until the enemy's heart explodes.
For me, the most impressive thing about Scanlan's fight is that only he and Matt were playing, and yet the whole table was invested. They both made the interaction so engaging that no one minded just sitting there and watching. In fact they were all engrossed in the action. And the fight lasted around 40 minutes! That's a while to be on the sidelines.
On my first watch of season 1 and that was my single favorite moment from season 1 or 2 as of now.
Two excellent story tellers at the peak of their craft!
Don't mean to drag Orion's name in the mud more than it already was in his final episode, but it's pretty apparent what people are more willing to watch.
Would you rather watch someone shop around for something for obvious power-gaming reasons, fail at most of them because the ideas were ridiculous, then constantly try more things that aren't working and wasting everyone's time?
or
Would you rather watch someone run for their life with cards stacked against them, then miraculously fight the odds and manages to take on the entire house with clever spellcasting?
I think it goes without saying which is more fun.
Travis wasn't bored for a change.
Yeah and it was Orion no one would have cared
You know you've been binging too much CR when you look at the time on a youtube video and go "Oh, it's just two hours?"
I thought the exact thing. I was like it's crittmas so it must be a long episode. Only 2 hours haha I was cool im on the binge train.
😂😂😂 same!
I literally just said that to myself XD
@@777goodgirl haha did exactly the same
A year later and I did the exact same thing lmao. Thought "oh, this is a short one!". Weird, that. Some videos are 10 minutes long and feel way too stretched out, but CR videos could go on forever and I wouldn't be bored.
Vox Machina’s favorite enemy, the elderly. Vox Machina’s hardest, worst, least favorite of all time enemy, doors
Season 2 its chairs xD
DOORS ARE EVIL
@@timfrank7461 Campaign 3 will likely be tables.
Critical Role cast: Flies
Vox Machina: Doors
Mighty Nein: Chairs (which the final boss mastered btw)
Honestly anything made of wood is just a nightmare for them across every game
Matt: "Those two doors are locked"
Sam: *is a triceratops *"No they're not"
Which part?
@@kevinobill4818 Beginning of Scanlan's one man wrecking crew section of this episode.
This was epic. Only wish: that Scanlan had lightning bolted the guards while they were line up, before dimension dooring to the roof. ONLY thing that could have made it better.
@@UrbanJackal I think matt was trying to push for that because he kept emphasizing that the guards were essentially in a straight line from Scanlan
@@kaeleastlord I think he wanted him to trample them
You know, for all the various reasons people disliked Orion/Tiberius, for me as a fellow DM the one thing that I feel is better is that Matt can finish a room description without somebody shouting "I CAST LIGHT PFFFFFSSSHHHT!" as soon as he mentions that it's a little bit dark.
You see all these dirty farmhands toiling in the -- PRESTIDIGITATION -- all these clean farmhands toiling in the mud.
And one of those times it actually made it worse. At least let him finish describing before you do that otherwise it could be a situation where you walk into a room where enemies are doing something in pitch black and you're gonna immediately reveal your position.
@@danielboyle435 Something I had to learn the hard way when playing a wizard, lol. It's not a great idea to immediately light up a dark room all willy nilly. Got the group ambushed that way twice before I learned to knock it off and let the darkvision and stealth crew have a look around before I throw spells into the mix.
I understand the need to help the group, but sometimes I forget that others have useful abilities they'd like to use as well and in some situations, theirs are more useful than mine. But after getting a slap on the wrist, I do learn not to do it again.
The night is dark and full of terrors
@@mancerayder8010
For the the night is dark and full of terrors. 🤲
"You can't get this on television"
If he only knew. They even got the triceratops in the show!
I wish he would have used the triceratops a little more though. He was a 115 HP meat shield since he would revert back to full heath Scanlan if dropped to 0 in triceratops form.
He should have stayed in that form and held his action so that when they were all lined up outside the dining room door he could have trampled through the line of them.
@@joedabro9969 This guy is really min-maxing a tabletop RPG
Well, technically he said "network television." So he was mostly right. lol
I'm making my way!!!
@@Frreak0zoid
~ makintheirway ~
Sam is the kind of player every DM wants. Just the right amount of chaos, loves to roleplay, reads his abilities thoroughly and, most important of all, knows and doesn't mind that his actions have consequences, but actively endorses it.
When I played my Bard my first rule of playing him was "WWSD?"
He's great, to be sure. But if it came to it, I'd prefer Travis, Laura, or Liam. They're more players, and Sam's more a comedian, if you take my meaning.
@@magonus195
yeah no. Sam has just as many impactful and emotional beats as any of them excpet maybe Liam. AND on top of that he's a comedian, episodes without Sam even feel like less. he's an essential part of the dynamic.
Sam also (mostly) _refuses_ to metagame!
@@kaneo1 you know what...I think we have Orion to thank for that. I think it may have been Orion's absurd level of metagaming that annoyed Sam to the point he now point blank refuses to do it.
Love the random comment in chat: "Remember, remember the Fifth of Gnomevember".
Stunning...
The beginning of the gunpowder treason and plot, on the fifth of Gnomevember
The gunpowder treason and plot. I know no reason why the De Rolo Treason should ever be forgot
I laughed entirely too hard at this
Oooohhhhh...
Vax slitting the guard's throat after finding out he's one of those who hung the child is a perfect dramatic finish to that fight, especially when you know Liam's a dad with his own children.
ok a year late from responding to this comment and 20 years too late from the ep lol but i swear this is my frist time watching today 4/28/2022. why didn't anyone catch on to the fact matt was handing them the information on a silver platter that they have a spy among those townspeople that knew they were going to attack.
@@pleton80 there's a mole in the town? I have just started the episode but so far I haven't noticed a spy amongst the villagers in the past episodes in all honesty.
Awww, good old art dad, murdering the bad men 😊
@@pleton80 Yeah I'm wondering why none of them seemed to pick up on that. He made mention of them knowing they were due to make an attack at least two times but none of them asked who told them.
I’m not a father, but I am with Liam 100,000%
Taken from littlecajunlady's Tumblr. Message at the bottom of the comment from me
10:30 - Start of recap (added by me, mrsmster)
13:40 - Game starts
14:55 - Scanlan the triceratops
18:06 - They all sing the Jurassic Park theme
19:25 - Scanlan vs. another door, the door wins
25:55 - Scanlan sent to set a fire but has no way to do it, they give Sam shit for it (triceratops gone)
29:10 - Dukes of Hazzard table slide, it’s not great
35:45 - Scanlan drinks the fire breath potion and starts setting the roof on fire
42:50 - Scanlan “I’m gonna kill everyone in this motherfucking house”
48:35 - Bigby’s hand catches Scanlan as he falls back off the roof
53:34 - Scambo lives
54:05 - Now it’s time for the rest of the team …
1:05:00 - Tylieri is a vampire
1:16:50 - Matt “You can’t get halfway in there & be like wait this didn’t happen” (who needs context)
1:23:12 - Keyleth thinks Vax’s table slide is awesome
1:32:10 - Trinket gets nat 20 & HDYWTDT on the vamp and bites his head off!!
1:50:58 - Keyleth casts sunbeam finishes off the vamp mist
2:11:05 - Vax slits last guard’s throat over the death of the child hanging from the Sun Tree
2:11:40 - Vex slams Percy against a wall, Percy “I feel cruel”
I'm aware these timestamps get posted often in the series' comments section so I just want to say that these are for me so they're at the top, but if I can help someone else out by posting them then I'm not gonna complain!
Thanks!
I really appreciate it because I'm starting over from the beginning again and thanks
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Awesome! Thanks!
Thanks for this! 1:19:50 - is for when newly levelled up Percy uses his Hex for the first time which gets everyone else’s immediate attention…
One of my favorite things about this is that Scanlan always plays up being a comedic fun-lover who doesn't want to exert effort for anything, but when they planned to send someone in alone as a distraction he immediately volunteers. And even though this seems to be more as a means to brew some mischief for his own amusement, he composes himself like a true hero, is incredibly brave in the face of great danger despite being alone, and doesn't flee until he absolutely has to, likely hoping the distraction was enough to help his friends.
He's far more valiant than he would have us believe.
In a sense, he's a true hero for that. He's not doing it for glory necessarily, but to better the overall situation.
@@DACnumber1 For real, dude. Like even after they link back up in after their battles, he doesn't really play up what he did to the rest of the party. He's just sort of like "'Sup, guys?"
I love how low-key tactical Sam is, even though he never played any campaigns before this one. The jolly singing, real-life bard Sam, kid star on broadway and all that, is actually a genius tactician when it comes to playing his class mechanics. But he always just does what he can as best as a he can without drawing too much attention to the brilliance of it, and he's so silly about it, the silliness sort of glosses over his creativity as a dynamic player. It's only, I think, in the final episode when he is openly being smug about how awesome he is, but by then everyone, including Matt, respects him so much they totally accept it. Because by then he's totally earned it.
It’s a game. Quit examining everything. What a loser.
@@nickxcaliber7991 It's a game, but it's also a story. And stories are great to examine! :)
@@nickxcaliber7991 Its a comment! Stop being an asshole! What a loser.
I CANNOT WAIT to see Scanlan's epic fight get animated for the Legend of Vox Machina
They MUST animate that scene
@@alexas1173 We unlocked absolutely everything that happened during the Briarwood Arc, so expect it to be animated. ;)
Personally I look forward to Vax, Percy and Scnalan vs the door ;) But Scanlan's epic fight is a very close second
I definitely want Percy to say Matt's line or a narrator to. That they fought illithid, kvarn, but this door, this door has bested them!
Me too
Everyone's talking about Rambo Scanlan, which was very impressive, but right now I'm just super proud of Trinket for getting a HDYWTDT
🐻
Its neat to see the old players encounter things that I think influence their next characters. Travis becomes a Half-Orc because of the brawl. Liam becomes a wizard because of Orion's "Utility," Ashley becomes a barbarian because of Grog, and Sam becomes a Rogue because of the Doors.
underrated Scanlan vs Door joke
The Scanlan vs doors sent me!!!😂😂💀🥀
And Marisha becomes a monk because bashing a guy's head in as Keyleth
Nah Liam chooses Sam's class and even race sometimes
scanlan just burned down one of the houses all by himself, while basically winging the whole thing. holy crap.
Now thats called a scanlan
high level bards are nothing you want to mess with
Bards, especially high-level Bards, are improvisational masters if played properly. Add to the fact that he's being played by Sam, and. It's no wonder that Scanlan is so good.
I might have spoiled myself by scrolling down into the comments, but this only brings a wide grin across my face in expectation of things to come in this episode.
@@brandongalvan6603 It's possibly one of the most badass things Scanlan has ever done...
No amount of spoiling will take that away, so I think you're fine.
Me during Scanlan's fight: " this must be how sport fans feel when their team intercepts the ball and scores a touchdown"
Gooooooooooaaaaaaalllllllll!
Homerun!!!!
D&D is the closest nerds get to sporting events. :)
Sophia Lindfield
eSports: 👁👄👁
I've heard/read that fantasy football, basketball, etc. is just D&D for sports fans. An extension of this would be sports games like Madden, where you can pick a player to control, increase their stats, change their gear, etc. Basically sports rpg.
I'm more bothered than I should be by how much Laura and Matt both forgot about Trinket's armor. His AC was 18 when they got back to Emon after escaping from Yug'Voril. When she provided the Bullet hide to the smith, the finished product gave Trinket the original 18 for AC, +2 additional points (which is why she'd written "+2" on Trinket's sheet), totaling an AC of 20. In addition, he gained resistance to non-magical piercing/slashing/bludgeoning damage, which Matt specifically told Laura to remind him of whenever it came up. It grinds my gears and rustles my jimmies. I love that big sweet boi.
YES!!! I remember she said something like "it's 18, I can't remember why I put 20 on the side" the first time the AC was brought up and I just thought, oh, that's the armour! Can't believe they forgot about it. Trinket's a beast, he's stronger than they remember and that makes me sad.
I think the +2 note was once trinket got stoneskin casted on him
@@andresarevalo8430 No its not, read stoneskin description. It has nothing to do with AC
@@thespankmyfrank They forget a lot of things that bite them in the butt and it makes me sad.
I'm not very knowledgeable about the rules, but trinket attacks an enemy that is currently grappling grog and while previously they've been given advantage when attacking an opponent who's grappling trinket is not given advantage. however, the enemy who is stated to be gripping grog, is STILL able to land an attack of opportunity on trinket.
poor trinket gets screwed over every time, which makes trinket seem useless, which is why scanlan is always like "leave trinkett" I feel like some effort should have been made to ensure trinkett wasn't useless.
But this is not the first time that they have made poor decisions or forgotten things that hurt them.
Forgetting buffs, forgetting hunters mark, not using abilities, not absorbing or understanding matt when gives them blatant hints/advice. makes me sad because I am always rooting for them.
Just saying they have a week in-between each episode, as opposed to us who are probably binge watching these.
However, I agree and got upset about that too when she mentioned the circled 20 and he told her to go with the 18. As well as everytime they forget the resistance from the armor.
I love how Matt's infinite wisdom and forethought when planning for these games, had him previously making maps for basically the entire town not knowing where they were going to go, but this time he was not prepared for Triscanlentops to enter a building and see like 8-10 enemies staring him down and decide "I'm gonna run into the next room" so he had to draw the next room on the fly.
It's nice to know he is, in fact, human after all. Or at least, he was back in these early episodes.
"at least he was". Im only starting with critical role (while waiting for new episodes of High Rollers), is he even cooler later??
@@gothmissstress it gets quite awesome
@@gothmissstress Clear Skies my friend, I'm doing the same thing
Triscanlentops....nice. 😄👍
@@gothmissstress It's his whole ass job now. Making maps is all he does
"Alright, think like a triceratops. I need... I need shelter." critical role has never been better.
Sam/Scanlan is a national treasure.
This episode goes out to every fool who thought Bards are the worst class in D&D.
Drew Sherod
My issue is that they're not fun unless you role-play the shit out of them.
To be entirely honest, while I like the Bard class, what Scanlan did in this episode for the most part was just a clever use of his arcane spells and potions. Nothing a Wizard or a Sorceror could also do, probably in a more effective way. Bards certainly have things that render them unique and cool, but what was shown in this episode is not particularly evidence of that.
Merp321 however if you look at scanlan as a whole over the series, Sam does consistently show that he can play a bard perfectly and makes the bard naysayers wrong in that instance. I would agree though that this episode just shows off how cool arcane magic is if you get inventive
Also the College of Swords archetype did a lot improve the bard’s viability by making them strong in melee while also being full a full spell caster, also college of Lore bard getting access to six spells from any class is really good.
No one has thought Bards are a 'weak' class since early 3rd edition, and even back then it was already basically a meme referencing the fact that it was objectively true in 2nd ed (an edition in which balance was not even an objective of the game design)
I love how Percy is just slowly becoming more and more of an anime protagonist
Very much so! Love how much they leaned into that in the adaptation, too.
Yeah the Scanlan stuff this episode was fun, but to me it paled in comparison to Percy having apparently taken a level in warlock between sessions and is out here hexing fools now?! That is just so great from both a story and mechanical perspective
@@xMarvel-gq6vd its the feat, magic initiate: warlock, so no repelling blast shenanigans unfortunately
Matt setting Sam up to be able to accomplish his task, and create chaos and Sam following through by making the right decisions is D&D at its finest.
Matt didn’t have to let that potion set the entire house on fire, or allow Bigby’s hand to catch Scanlan, but he recognized that Sam had played the scenario brilliantly and he rewarded it.
Sam/Scanlan got his big moment, and Matt helped him achieve it. By far my favorite fight so far.
"My friends trust that this day is the day where you almost caught Scanlan Shorthalt, Esquire" jumping into bigby's hand middle fingers extended play a inspiring flute tune
"You're mad!"
"Well thank goodness for that, cos if I wasn't, this would probably never work."
Vox Machina after being reprimanded for being incredibly violent continues to be incredibly violent...but far away from the people who told them not to.
I have to say grog is basically the violent one like he gets a pass barbarians and beserkers don't care they just love the fight
So what now, feeling bad for dominatrix vampires?, this is ludicrous.
Against the people that they got in trouble for being violent against.
lol for sure, Keyleth evaporates a dude who’s trying to surrender, Vax slits some crippled guy’s throat, then Keyleth turns, “Percy are you sure you can keep your darkness in check... you’ve got to control yourself...” o-o
Well Grog enjoys violence, Scanlan enjoys fun in every shape or form, Percy is possessed by some demon of vengeance, Vax doesn't particularly care about the lives of their enemies, Vex cares a little bit more than Vax, but not really that much, and Keyleth often struggles to get get her point across persuasively enough to change the others' minds. This group is bound to be more violent than necessary.
The face on Keyleth when Matt says : you cant retcon that .... that is the look of someone who spent 27 episodes with someone retconning at least once in each of them and then being denied that one time XD.
YES just watching for the first time and caught this
Orion takes 10 minute round: boring, agitating and builds a lot of unnecessary party tension.
Sam takes 45 minute cutscene: Scanbo. Awesome, high action, and has consequences that the player accepts and doesn’t retcon their own actions or movements. Proves to player that they actually have a good character.
Thats because orions 10 minute round is "Ok i cheat using x y and z hoping you dont notice, wiat you noticed z? ok so scrap all of that i did none of it. Now i cheat in a different way"
From what I’ve heard there was also some real-life tension with Orion so that probably didn’t help, whereas everybody seems to like Sam
the most refreshing part is he didn't try to use any of his abilities to do shit they don't actually do. Orion, Marisha, Laura and Taliesin did that shit all the time.
@@Keira_Blackstone it seems to me like Sam actually knew what his character could do and paid good attention to his abilities. Marisha and Laura didn’t fully pay attention and forgot some stuff often. And it seemed like Taliesin mostly got confused with the pathfinder/dnd change. Orion seemed wholeheartedly intent on misusing abilities and items. That’s just what it appeared to be to me.
biggest difference is that orion would legit try to fight all those enemies on his own and multiply the time of the scene by atleast 5
Can I just point out how awesome Taliesin is as a player? He keeps track of the story, the NPCs, his complicated equipment, has his attacks pre-planned and thought out and to top it all of he can RP and improv at an amazing level!
He also works a lot with Matt outside the sessions to plan things out and save time. Like when he tries to design something, he always says: "I'm trying to build that thing we talked about" and that's that. I really like that, compared to, say, Orion who constantly did crazy shit without talking to Matt beforehand like "I'm buying 1500 mirrors".
Taliesin is the best kind of player. Willing to try new ideas but has the forethought to consult the DM before the session starts. I wish some of the people in my group were more like him.
Its because he's DM'd a lot himself. He understands all the stuff Matt has to do in order to make this all happen.
They are all awesome in many ways. Taliesin has the most experience next to Matt I think. I am in a game now in the same position, an old hand player with a bunch of newbies. It can be a lot of fun watching players new to the game scamper around like kittens, reacting to everything with a "Bahhhhhhh! What the hell is that?" Seeing monsters for the first time, ect. I play a Mage. Best to have an experienced player run the spell caster, they can get killed to quickly otherwise and spells can be tricky.
Daniel McGillis Don't remind me. The noob spellcasters in my group could remember their spells just fine but one of them wouldn't think of the consequences when using them. Consequences like casting fire spells in a highly flammable grass fields where some of allies were hiding. -_-
Grogs playlist better be titled "I would like to rave"
I spit out my water so hard
Its just BFG Division now
@@grayfarron5077 Genius and glorious
*Aggressive vibing*
"You can't get this on television" ...well actually Liam, 2 more weeks and I'm hoping this is exactly what we'll get! 🤣 43:45
We got scanbo!!!!
I come from the future… it’s so good. It’s so fucking beautiful
I gotta say... Scanbo MIGHT be my favorite episode
@@DAUGHTERofIRIS It's mine
Obvs Scanlan's whole adventure this episode is amazing, but I also really love how everyone else supports and cheers him on. Like there's no whining that he's taking the spotlight or boredom from those not rping.
Dude, everyone except Travis was telling him how stupid an idea it was, and to run away so he didn't die, while face palming. Travis was the only 1 who believed in him. Everyone else was acting pretty shitty until they realized how well he was doing. At 1 point Marisha even mocked him saying "I told you last week I'd go with you but said you didn't need any help etc etc." It was condescending AF
@Paden Bang This was a really old comment, so I probably don't remember everything, but my original comment wasn't meant to reference how they reacted to his plan or lack thereof. I totally agree it WAS a stupid idea to go into a dangerous setting with zero backup, a giant enemy, and unknown amount of guards. And I think the rest would've said that no matter whose idea it was. In fact they did complain about Vax doing similar stuff. I also disagree on Marisha being condescending. If I was in a group and a member wanted to go into very dangerous territory and i offered backup, and instead of "thanks but no thanks" or explaining a plan of any sort, they just repeated "I don't need help"...I'd be annoyed too.
My comment was in regards to when things went well, everyone was cheering him on and not acting like Matt was focusing too much on one player. It was fun.
I live for everyone's reactions at the table. Matt's storytelling is badass and there have been many quiet moments and combat scenarios like this one where a particular player or two gets to shine... But my favorite thing about this show is, during all of those moments, how supportive and reactive everyone at the table can be.
I sometimes run back scenes several times just to take in everyone's reactions. 🙂
Dagger Dagger Dagger
Hunters Mark!
I would like to rage...
Goin Minxie!
Bigby's Hand!
These should all be tshirts
Don’t forget “Your soul is forfeit!”
Dagger Dagger Dagger is a t shirt
Or one shirt! Just have something from everyone!
@@ilana3783 "The butt flap is down!"
"Can we leave trinket behind?"
Scanlan soloing a whole house and then telling everyone "You're on your own" xD
After all he did. Wowza.
If Keyleth didn't have feelings for Vax before she definitely does after watching his sick ass slide across the table
My only hope is that they animate the ENTIRE Scanlan sequence when the time comes
Almost, but just as epic
They pretty much did.
@@Stronghand-yw1lk It was even better
Scanbo is my favorite part of season 1.
43:45 "You can't get this on network television, ladies and gentlemen." - Liam O'brien, 2016
One day. Maybe one day, you sexy wizard of Rexentrum.
tv is dead, maybe a Netflix deal
How about Amazon Prime?
All hail Caleb Widowgast
Even Amazon Prime couldn’t capture it in all its glory but it sure held a candle.
And then some!
"it's like duel of the fates"
cut to Scanlan literally force pushing a swordsman off of a roof
Can I just take a moment. Marisha and Taleisin (spelling?) their acting chops and friendship are both 15/10. The way they are like 'grab each others hands, we can do this' as people but just last session roleplaying that conflict of spirit and ideals as well as they did, it was so well done.
Yeah, really love them as tablemates in this campaign.
A good mnemonic for "Taliesin" is that, being an Eldritch Goth Lord, his name naturally contains the words LIE and SIN. >:-D
Well, he has mentioned that he occasionally needs to remind Welsh friends to "stop saying it right!" XD
(Tal-YES-in being the traditional pronounciation, rather than Mr. Jaffe's TAL-isin.)
The reason why Scanlan is so successful is, because he is fucking creative.
It's not about just attacking someone but roleplaying with what he's got. Combined with incredible luck on hist and failure on Matt's side.. this battle was amazing.
Also forgetting to roll concentration checks when damaged while polymorphed. Not having to role play the low INT of animals he turns into. Casting polymorph while in dragonfly form. Also the enemies not moving out of the stink cloud (which only makes you lose your action, not your movement).
Yes he plays smart, but there's also some rules being ignored.
@@BravoSquid Man, are you sure this show is for you? By the looks of it, seems you probably rule-rage during most of the show instead of having fun with it😂😂😂😂😂
Grog takes 6 crossbow bolts to the chest.
Grog still has 85% of his HP left.
Has higher HP then Boromir. 😂
@@AlaskanCookie In his defense, Boromir was a Ranger and iirc a semi-pro estimate of the party at the time placed them around Level 4
@@Metal_Slyme i’d say he had extra attack. Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli were definitely higher leveled though
I would fear if grog was a druid barbarian. Rage and wildshape is a pain. Though last night i brought a druid barbarian out of bear form two times.
@@Metal_Slyme In LotR basically everyone is a Fighter or maybe a Rogue, there are almost no magical items, and only Gandalf can cast any spells (and he seems to be limited to Daylight ;)). Hence, a large group of any type of enemy is a big threat. Gandalf's problem is that he has to protect a number of lower-level squishy people all the time - that's why most of the journey is running from things :)
Were I Sam in the moment he trust-fell onto Bigby's Hand off the roof, I'd have taken a moment to look back at the guards and go, "Gents, you will always remember this as the day that you almost caught, Burt Reynolds!" and then let myself fall onto the hand and book it (lol XP).
If only
There should be a "Captain" in there somewere ;)
Major Shirow omfg whyyy didn't he think of this?!?! omfg I would have exploded.
MrRovag correction, there should be an esquire in there 😂😂😂
@ Major Shirow, yes this!
There's something really funny to me about Travis saying "know your rules kids" after being corrected on rules by a DM who literally messed up the rules on that same turn. That's D&D baby
I love Liam's voice rising two octaves with "Why are you not dimentioning door out of there????"
Matt: what are you doing, Scanlon?! Roll initiative!!
Vox Machina: (singing jurassic park theme because Scanlon's a triceratops).
45:26 I think Matt misunderstood the question. While Polymorph and Dimension Door do not gain additional effects from being cast at higher level they most certainly can be cast by using a slot equal to or higher than that of the spell itself. Players Handbook pg 201.
ROFLGoblin but the Bigby swag exit was so much better anyway.
Matt fucked up a lot on this episode.
No, Matt didn't misunderstand the question, Sam flat-out just asked the wrong one. Sam asked if he could cast the spells at a higher level, not whether or not he could cast the spells with a higher level spell slot. There is a difference, especially because the language of the first question("at a higher level") is specifically used when casting spells with more/stronger effects at higher levels. He should have asked if he could use an X level spell slot to cast the spells he was requesting. That way it's clear what he's asking.
It was pretty clear why he was asking though, so a "no, but you can use a higher level slot to cast it" would have been the appropriate response, especially since the next thing he says is "Well I guess I can't use my spells anymore then" or something to that effect.
@@JD2jr. True, but then again, these things are always much easier to see after the fact. Even if for no other reaaon than that we have more time to think about something that occurred for them maybe only for a few seconds.
I can’t remember, were they still under Seeming during these fights? If so, the house Scanlan took out saw a kid wreaking havoc on them, and it looked like that vampire was killed by a donkey.
...oh shoot you're so right 🤣🤣🤣
Don't think Seeming works once you Polymorph into a differently shaped creature. Not sure how it would work witht that spell though.
@@dig8634 During the cows episode matt said that Sam and Marisha both still looked like cows even though they polymorphed and beast shaped
@@walfman100 Well, that is his perogative as dm to make that decision, but given how seeming can't significantly alter your shape from bipedal to quadropedal or things of that nature, I don't think it RAW would let you do that.
Beast shape and polymorph could be fine if the things they changed into had four legs and weren't too small or large relative to a cow? I think you are talking about giant birds though?
I know this is 2 years late but "...and it looked like that vampire was killed by a donkey" made me snort laugh reading it. Thank you.
"I've never been a triceratops before!"
This is why D&D is awesome.
This episode honestly just showcases how smart a player Sam is. He makes literally all the right choices during his whole excursion and it’s so much fun to watch.
I'd have stayed a dinosaur until my hit points ran out as a dinosaur. They were all lined up for a perfect charge. Stinking cloud was good yes, but he should have left himself a couple of more spell slots to work with.
Except that when you're Polymorphed you keep the entire stat sheet of your creature, including it's intelligence, so when he turned into a dragonfly, which has an intelligence of 2, he should have completely forgotten what he was doing and flown aimlessly for an hour until Polymorph ran out and his entire incursion never should have happened. It took them the entirety of campaign one and until Jester got Polymorph to finally realize this.
Not entirely, he wasted 1 invisibility on the roof. Other than that, preety damm good.
He could totally of cast dimension door at higher level tho, other then that it was a very good side mission.
@@CelineWhitetail Matt's ruling is that when you self polymorph or polymorph an ally you maintain your sentience and self control. Its how hes portrayed it throughout the whole campaign, essentially a higher cost beast form. Its definitely not accurate but its fun.
@2:01:00 Vex yells "Your death has been provided by Gilmore's Glorious Goods!"
I read this comment just when it happened 😂
Gilmore: ... A strange marketing tactic, but I'll allow~!!!
Do you know why you lost this battle? Because you didn't buy from Gilmore's Glorious Goods.
I feel like if keyleth knows a bit about vampire mist and sees all the melee teammates surrounding it she’d know it was a vampire. Grog might have 6 intelligence but he wouldn’t stay at range to be pelted by crossbow bolts, trinket would be the same, and Vax, who’s known to flank enemies, wouldn’t be standing in the open next to them.
Grog and trinket entered by another entrance though. How would Keyleth know how long they had been in the room? As far as she knows, they could have just arrived, the enemy they were fighting could have just dimensioned away or it could be there invisible, etc. It’s asking a lot to turn the corner into a battle scene, focus on the subtle mist in the air and immediately think vampire.
@@amendment5604 hell no. Setting aside how they're expecting vampires and there's a cloud of fog indoors, party members are saying there's a vampire and calling for a sunbeam. That should have been it. It shouldn't have required a check, let alone a check that 17 wouldn't be good enough for.
This is the problem with worrying too much about metagaming, where charecters are excessively limited to avoid the slightest wiff of it. Here it put keyleth in a position where sensible options weren't available to her because it would look like metagaming. If you described an unnatural mist in the centre of the room without context, and you know vampires emerge from mist after a fight just a few hours ago, and you're expecting to run into more, then blasting it with a sunbeam just in case is 100% a sensible decision. Instead, because all players know there was a vampire there, a very rationable thing for Keyleth to do is no longer an option because Matt ruled she wouldn't know for sure, and Marisha now has to worry about a metagaming accusation (which to add insult to injury she still gets from Matt despite complying with the ruling).
02:09:50 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the last guard they killed in the house and interrogated says "The briarwoods mean well" in the same sentence he said he hung a young boy from a tree. These guards are all obviously charmed or controlled in some way and nobody noticed.
42:40 when scanlan said "imma kill everyone in this mother f***ing house" i believed him...
I was sad he didn't lightning bolt them all after the DM said "they're all lined up for a lightning bolt."
Scanlain has totally forgotten he has a crown with a lvl 3 lighting bolt preloaded for bloody ages !
he doesn't he traded it to tibs for that ion stone thing
That IS the Ioun Stone....
that's what I was thinking... he used it once. it gets mentioned a few times in later episodes but not used.
I believe Matt mentioned before as well (to Tiberius) that unused spells in the spell-storing stones or rings lose their charge after so long of non-use. In other words he hasn't used it in so long that he probably doesn't have a charge left anymore anyway.
So many amazing moments in this episode:
The peasants rising up to fight a zombie giant.
Vax sliding across the table, and then Keyleth imitating him.
Percy blowing someone's head off.
Trinket mauling a vampire.
And, of course:
Scanlan turning into a tricerotops and knocking down doors, farting his green mist over a bunch of guards, shoving a goliath off a roof, and burning a mansion to the ground.
Amazing.
Absolutely love watching Marisha smiling and nodding across the table at the mention of Percy's hex, and Sam just isn't following, looking like the lost little boy Scanlan pretends to be
I love how you can see a tiny hint of a smile on Matt's face as Liam says "I slit his throat" just admiring Liam's roleplay. Just perfect. I'd be proud of my player for coming out with something like that, too.
Lux E. Yeah Liam/Vax gets a lot of shit for that among the Tiberius, and Percy crowd, but it makes sense for a good character to slit the throat of someone who helped kill a child.
@@awesomechainsaw yes, but dammit, he should have gotten more info out of him. Who the hell is telling the Briawoods about them? How did they know they were coming? The rest of the group needs to have someoneelse interrogate people going forth.
@@Kasino80 I was thinking that exact same thing, though from an RP standpoint I can understand how it would be more in-character for him to be impulsive as a reaction
@@awesomechainsaw yeah I don't get why that is Liam is a dad irl and Vax moral alignment is mostly good so expecting him not to get upset about it is kinda bullshit
@@Kasino80 I see your point, but Vax is generally speaking one of the better ones of the group at intimidation. He’s great at the bad-cop routine, knows the right questions to ask and (generally) isn’t the hot-headed type.
As far as I recall, this is the first time we’ve had a rash reaction from him during an interrigation, and as the mother of a 1 1/2 year old boy, I was clapping my little hands when this happened 👍🏻👍🏻
Scanlan takes Favored Enemy: Doors.
HAHAHAHHAAAAAA
It's amazing. I struggle a lot with Doors in Pen and Paper. Like A LOT. I'm not the only one xD
The saga of the door returns
I think it's doors take pefered enemy scanlin
REVENGE
I know this is early CR and rules are really in the air, but you can cast any spell with a higher spell slot than its original, even if it doesn't improve the spell itself. Thus Scanlan, on the roof would have been able to Diemsion Door himself out with ease, as he still had his 5th and 6th level spell slots available.
I noticed this, also I have no idea why he's asking if Unseen Servant has mass and I'm sat here like "You have Bigby's hand already there for another 54 seconds, it has mass and can carry you exactly like you want for 720ft. Oh wait you've decided to jump off the roof instead."
I think in that moment, Sam was trying to find a way out that wasn't suggested by the rest of the party who isn't there. Sam always comes across as staying true to no outside influence and since only Scanlan was there, he had to cook up something else that wasn't shouted at him to do to get out.@@nervesconcord
Yeah it makes no sense that you can't use more magic to cast easier spells. It tracks if he's tired and exerting more effort to cast simpler spells
Scanlan: I can do all kinds of things, I'm going there. And I will be fine, don't make me tell you twice, I can go alone, I'm fine.
Also Scanlan: I don't know why I was sent in to this mission!
Yep, Scanlan is definitely my favorite out of the group. His witty one-liners, creative use of spells and ability to recognize situations makes him shine amongst the group.
I really wasn't keen on his character at the start but he quickly became one of my favourites.
This is exactly how I feel. Was at the bottom of my list at the start, but now he's near the top.
Started from the bottom now he's there
Scanlan has been at the top since day 1 for me
@@zachnightingale8156 He's a top man, knows his business. I mean, he's a total asshole, but he's really good at his work. He's good at what he does, when he can do it. Started out as a bottom-man, now he's a topman. Worked his way to the middle, mostly. Middleman. Top of his field as a middleman, top of the middle, worked his way from the bottom. Started from the bottom, now he in the middle, man. Top of it.
Matt: "No, you went inside. Not gonna retcon it."
[Orion cries in the distance]
The players all pause, as if there is a voice that only speaks in a whisper. If they strain themselves, they swear it says, "oh, well then I don't do that."
Good riddance I say so happy he’s gone
Just reached this part in the video. Ouch but that was one of the things that bugged me about Orion.
Bahahahahaha 😃
I always felt like people took the "glory hog" meme with Orion too far, I don't think his intent was always quite *that* selfish. But I did find it somewhat tiring at times when he'd describe an elaborate plan and go "I don't do that. Instead I..."
Sometimes it was fair enough to not do something, the others have reversed decisions as well, but he definitely needed to just roll with the punches sometimes and play along.
I always felt like Orion's issue was more just a general lack of self awareness in a social situation. (Which is why Tiberius's wisdom was so low I bet.)
The second sam started burning the house my neighbours firealarm went off lol. That's what I call immersion. Impressive.
Also: How mean is it that they still go off on marisha for meta gaming when they are literally in a CITY FULL OF VAMPIRES after having FOLLOWED A KNOWN VAMPIRE and intentionally prepared to ATTACK VAMPIRES and she just saw this weird ass mist that everyone is super scared off MOVE lmfao. But no, how dare she want to be able to assume that COULD BE ONE lmfao.
Especially since, in the previous episode, they were attacked by vampires hiding in the mist.
Grog even went "Can I do a nature check to tell him it's just fucking fog" and got jumped. And then they got told by Archibald that if they see mist, they should avoid it because it surrounds the minions of the Briarwood.
Matt has PTMSD from Orion
I came back to rewatch campaign 1 after watching most of 2 and all of 3(that exists at this point). There's so much bargaining to do almost anything not perfectly within the game mechanics here which is absent in other seasons. I don't know what changed, but it's nice to know they grow together as a group to trust and work together better. Hopefully I'll notice changes during my re watch.
I thought the same thing she would have seen mist or fog and thought vampire!
Very frustrating that after Liam and Tal are told they can't shout what's going on to Keyleth on her turn, they don't think to do it on theirs either 🤦
8:00 Liam announcing he is playing a character on an prime tv show. It’s so crazy that little did they know 6 years later, they would be playing these characters on their own prime tv show
wow, thats wild! hahah im happy we are in this timeline and got to see this beautiful world being brought to professional animation 😭
It took one player to tear an entire building apart, kill all the baddies in it, and set it all ablaze.
It took three players to open a door.
(Edit: I am mistaken. Scanlan did not manage to kill anybody. He did however survive a group onslaught by himself.)
The same player was even in both situations.
Welcome to Vox Machina
Ouch. Truth hurts, yo.yo. 😆
Scanlan certainly did a lot, but he didn't kill anyone in his house.
@@zacharydunn6577 didn't he technically burn them all alive as they were trapped in the house...?
The image of Scanlan standing on a building, fire spilling a bit from his mouth, the sides a flame, a giant purple translucent master hand like construct floating above and behind connected to his hand by a thin strand of arcane essence, his hand glowing, his other grasping a cone which looks like it was designed to shout through. Rain pouring down lightning streaking across the sky. That made me so happy.
Also you can ALWAYS cast a spell using a higher level spell slot, but not all spells have enhanced effects from it.
Bigby's hand also allows you to move it AND cause an effect as a bonus action on subsequent turns.
Wh...whyyyyy would it be an issue for Keyleth to figure out that the mist was a vampire, technically it's a cloud the size of a person, not some short low to ground thing like Matt described it, and they're fighting vampires, anyone would probably sunbeam/light the mist just to be safe, especially there to kill a person who may or may not be a vampire and fighting has been going on in the other room for 18-20 seconds. Also they've passed random information off on each other out of turn order all the time, but this one time Matt took offense, maybe it finally got on his nerves enough, but I imagine there were bigger plans for that NPC and he got really Meta strict all of the sudden.
Matt: draws a map of the whole house, makes a triceratops sheet and finds a figurine for it as well.
Sam: Immediately morphs back, teleports to the roof and sets the house on fire.
Matt: I'm not even mad, this is hilarious.
Ah the Marisha hate has well and truly began. The difference between her treatment and Orions treatment by people watching is shocking. Sure, people didn't like Orion, I'm one of those people, but I never saw people wishing death on him or using vile language when speaking about him (though there were some disgusting things said about his addiction which was awful) but goddamn people are vile toward Marisha
Yeah it sucks, D&D is hard give her a break.
She really does turn into the new Orion, tho not as bad I think
@@arieltorres3594 how does she turn into the new orion?
@@Rekabeck352 trying to do too much and somewhat metagaming. Even mat calls her out, don't know if it wa in this one or the next. Maybe she let's off later down the line but that's what I see. She def no where near as bad as Orion but it's there.
@@arieltorres3594 that's funny you know. She's no angel but biggest metagamer after orion is definitely Liam and metagaming and 'doing too much' still doesn't excuse the treatment she got
WE HAVE AN ARMY!!
WE HAVE A SCANLAN!!
this battle needs to be animated asap
Oh you don't have to dream now
@@Spiffy35 it might. The tv series is supposed to do the briarwood arc
"We have an army!" "We have a Scanlan!" "...We would like to negotiate our immediate surrender."
@@oninoni this... this is the Briarwood arc.
@@bobbysingh6052 i know. Will be fun.
2:00:26
*Grog takes off a guys leg with his war hammer*
Scanlan: He's Legolas
Lmao that was a good pun but no one in the group laughed.
I am ashamed, I had to stop and think about it for a minute 😭😅🤣🤣
I think he said "Leg-o-less" alluding to Legolas and also the fact that he has no legs. Sam has the most top-notch jokes consistently, he's amazing lol
2024 here and the best thing I received from the initial COVID pandemic is combing through RUclips to find Critical Role and falling in love with all these wonderful people. This is my fourth rewatch of C1 and listening to these people is a type of therapy you can't find anywhere.
Reposting my timestamps for myself from my tumblr
13:40 - Game starts
14:55 - Scanlan the triceratops
18:06 - They all sing the Jurassic Park theme
19:25 - Scanlan vs. another door, the door wins
25:55 - Scanlan sent to set a fire but has no way to do it, they give Sam shit for it (triceratops gone)
29:10 - Dukes of Hazzard table slide, it’s not great
35:45 - Scanlan drinks the fire breath potion and starts setting the roof on fire
42:50 - Scanlan “I’m gonna kill everyone in this motherfucking house”
48:35 - Bigby’s hand catches Scanlan as he falls back off the roof
53:34 - Scambo lives
54:05 - Now it’s time for the rest of the team . . .
1:05:00 - Tylieri is a vampire
1:16:50 - Matt “You can’t get halfway in there & be like wait this didn’t happen” (who needs context)
1:23:12 - Keyleth thinks Vax’s table slide is awesome
1:32:10 - Trinket gets nat 20 & HDYWTDT on the vamp and bites his head off!!
1:50:58 - Keyleth casts sunbeam finishes off the vamp mist
2:11:05 - Vax slits last guard’s throat over the death of the child hanging from the Sun Tree
2:11:40 - Vex slams Percy against a wall, Percy “I feel cruel”
Thank you!
Boostin
Bumping timestamps.
Bump bump
Thanks
1:16:54
Matt: “You can’t get halfway in there and be like ‘wait! This didn’t happen!’”
Talisin: -SNORT-
Travis: -busts out laughing-
Talisin: “Thank you for coming with me on that journey.”
I thought it too, boys! I thought it too.
Me too
Was that bit a reference to something?
@@vampiremage2 don't believe so, but it was a line that could be interpreted in a more...intimate way, and I think Taliesin and Travis went there.
@@Kasino80 Thank you kindly.
@@Kasino80 Either that or it was a lowkey dig at Orion's playstyle. Though, knowing these people, it was probably the potty humour, which is just endearing.
Scanlan's play style is what Bards should aspire to hahah
It's so funny the crazy shit he comes up with and he's still really effective. A little more debuffing and stuff would be good but he more than makes up for it.
Scanlan is similar to a bard I played for a bit. Not super strong but scrappy as hell and completely full of shit.
There is no better 5e debuff than Counterspell. And he casts blindness and dominate all the time. Both are killer spells a lot of players (including myself, TBH) overlook in favor of nuking.
Well he actually seems to rely mostly on support and utility spells
I have a kobold wild magic sorcerer who I'm using in Tomb of Annihilation that's just as crazy but half as effective.
A trap is going to kill him soon...
Glad I'm not the only one who thought Matt's call about Keyleth and the mist was a load of crap.
Utter bs. He’s just being salty that his fight wasn’t tough enough.
Oh well. His table. Not ours. Seems to have worked out just fine.
he was kinda a dick to her the whole fight
40:17 Liam's face going through all 5 stages of grief during Rambo Scanlan scene: 😧😡🤢😭😌
And then he starts unsheathing the knife like,
"Matt, if you kill the parody joke character that is my friend, I will kill you." I love everyone's investment.
Remember remember, the 5th of Gnomevember
Damn it, I have to give you a like for that one. But I'm not happy about it!
It's not like you got short changed on the humour value of it.
The Gnomepowder Treason and plot
your pf pic is so great
@@Lexiy76 Gnome Fawkes.
Percy: "I don't know if I can use minor illusion right now."
Me: ...Minor illusion?
Percy: "Okay, I'm just going to Hex that guy right there."
Me: ...HEX?!
*finally realizes what the heck is going on*
Hexblade warlock multiclass ?
@@bastien1591 hexblade subclass didnt exist then its more likely a homebrew style feind
I think you mean what the HEX is going on.
@Jacob Treuer I imagine because there wasn't a way for him to pull warlock with his fighter and how he was building it then. There are homebrew evocations, one of which let's you make a firearm your pact weapon. Meaning yes now you can make a fighter/warlock like percy.
I just Keep thinking Hero Squad when they put a illusion hat on a warforge
40:43 “It’s like the Duel of Fates! On a burning rooftop in the rain. Giant Goliath and a Gnome who spits fire!” 🤣
Seriously though, I want this little Scanlan adventure to be animated so badly!!
If they do the entire briarwood arc, it will be, as this is part of them taking the town back.
@@darkvizardking69 Woohoo! 🥳
Matt is officially playing Silas Briarwood in the series ....
So it's ON.
Hello from 2022, How does it feel to get your wish?
@@jeremyblack1929 AMAZING!!!!
I imagine that when Vex told Percy to "look her in the eye", she was still under the Seeming spell, with both her eyes crazying around :D
1:54:30 I love how once Matt know's Vax hit all three daggers he very clearly does not pay any attention to the damage rolls because he know's that guy's dead haha.
Basically the motto of Vox Machina: "Do I double everything, or just the die?"
It annoys me a lot that 31 sessions in the players STILL don't know this rule.
I read that as "... or just die?" like double or nothing, which kind of sums up their playstyle as well 😂
@@essexfuzz It's a lot more than 31 sessions in, remember they played at home before going live. However, this just makes it better, because it's a lot more human. Not everyone is going to memorize every tiny rule when they have an entire life.
@@seaborgium919 They played Pathfinder before they started recording, and changed to D&D 5e. You double everything in Pathfinder (with some exceptions).
"I look him straight in the eye..."
"And kiss him."
Of course the bard would make a serious scene into something funny and sexual lol
I loved that part! I thought the same thing! “And Kiss him”
One thing from Campaign 1 that I wish would have been present more often in C2 is the casts reaction to the music being so frequent. The genuine enjoyment of the theme setting tunes is gold.
Familiarity breeds contempt
Nothing sets the mood quite like morrowind music
Nooooo, they've all forgotten Trinket takes half bludgeoning because of his fancy armor. :c
Yep, because Laura only wrote down "New armour 1AC 18 (20)" she didn't mark that extra one down. However, I'm not surprised at all; Given how perplexed she is whenever it's her turn, and she fumbles hopelessly through what she can do, instead of just learning the few two-three skills she almost always end up using.
Archmortal add Matt says a lot, if you don't write it down you don't have it
I've been screaming that at the screen for weeks now
Archmortal No one cares enough to remember it 😂
Scanlan remembers...
"I got 26. I got distracted."
I am Taliesin. Taliesin is me.
I mean, it’s in your name
Timestamp?
That round with Matt getting reckless atack wrong and giving grog advantage on only one atack but taking like 13 attacks on him with advantage was rough
That happens at a lot of tables, unfortunately, as it can be a bit confusing if not read through properly. I think it also got errata'd at some point to be easier to read? Could be mistaken on that point, though~
This is probably one of the very few episodes where I feel like Matt made a noticeable amount of rough calls. At the very least let Grog re-roll his two other attacks or make it where only the first attack on Grog gets advantage. Glad someone mentioned that since most seem to be bringing up Keyleth not knowing the mist in the middle of Vax, Grog, and Trinket is a Vampire even with a 17 INT check
I can't believe how much this improved in the past two episodes. The flow is so much better.
1:16:55 "You can't get halfway in there and be like, 'Wait this didn't happen.'"
*Grog and Percy have Tiberius 'Nam flashbacks*
That definitely put Matt on the couch for the night 😂
I think it works better to think of something like that like chess; until you finish your turn and take your hand off your piece you can change what you did. Obviously it's a little different with D&D, but to some degree I think that should still apply. She had done nothing meaningful with her turn, so there was no reason she couldn't have adjusted.
Nah Tal laughed because of the sexual innuendo of it. When Travis noticed how Taleisan laughed(like there was a hidden meaning) he thought about it again in that light and realized what Tal was laughing at and laughed too. You can read it all on their faces, and then Tal said "thank you for going on that journey with me"
edit: also, the reason he said it like that was because she pissed him off right before that 1:16:45. He was trying to be nice about it beforehand, but after that he went the other direction a bit too far later on with the whole "you don't know mist = vampire" when a character literally told them as much in game 15 minutes before.
It's the only time I've ever heard anyone say anything close to that to Matt while dming
@@alexgulino335 nah, I would've ruled it the same way. She would've had to take her turn to roll an Int check to determine what was going on. It could've been a Fog Cloud spell for all she knew. She kept calling it a Black Mist, when he never said that. It was just *"Mist."*
@@skullsquad900 Yeah I agree, that's where the misunderstanding came from. Marisha kept saying the mist was something that would obviously catch the eye, while Matt quite pointedly said that it's just a mist. Mist is normal and in a battle wouldn't catch your eye, the intelligence check was to determine whether it caught her eye.
People seem to think it's as simple as Keyleth having the knowledge that mist = vampires? when there's plenty of context missing.
Vox Machina is the dictionary definition of Chaotic.
Don Lawson i would like to see a truly lawful dnd group tho XD
without anything you can argue about
Yannik this has never existed, the closest you get is someone who nails Paladin RP and (unsuccessfully) admonishes the group on acting evil
@@leavy The last Paladin I played was with 3.5 rules (Lawful Good and one strike and you're out of powers!), and he never lost his powers, never left his path, and the party loved him to bits. Admonishing the group does nothing, it's better to just be an example and let them see what rewards you get for it. Let them follow freely instead of tying a leash on them.
@@gambit4021 That would be a pretty difficult group to keep alive as a DM.. no rogues to help parties get around without fights every damn time.
And then the Mighty Nein came around
Matt had alot of interesting calls this episode, one of which being Keyleth not knowing mist meant a vampire, despite literally being told prior that mist meant vampires and the lord of the estate was a vampire... Seriously? Not letting scanlan as a triceratops break a wooden door with a 17 strength roll despite letting grog rip a chain in half and bash an iron gate off of its hinges with a strength roll of 14. Reminiscent of him not allowing 3 adults lift a 40 pound bar of wood.
Later when keyleth sunbeams the guard outside he tried calling her on her casting 6lvl spells twice.
I'm like did yall get in a tiff before this episode bc it seemed like he had it out for keyleth this episode
Yeah this has to be the worst dm call of the campaign imo.
Well, Matt of course has the same "issues" as any other DM (and I find this kinda refreshing to see btw - this is the game). I've been DMing for decades and I completely understand him. The players know exactly how the vampire works. But from the characters' perspective, to be that quick-of-mind - I'm not sure. In any case I get that he wanted the players to be not as superbly efficient dealing with this as they ofc wanted to be.
@@Vamirez which is why you ask for an intelligence check. But when the player rolls a 17, and you're still like "nah"... it's a strange decision to say the least.
@@dozencatfish1667 I think this might boil down to differences in imagining a scenario. One guy might think the vampire just transforms into a localized mist form, basically like a blob of magically swirling mist-textured goo with clearly visible vampire remainders around it. [INT DC 5 -- "duh, vampire"]
The other might think the vampire just explodes into generic liquid nitrogen looking ground mist that doesn't stand out among all the other effects. [INT DC 20 -- "how would anyone instantly think that's a vampire?"]
I kinda get both perspectives. One might go: There is a mist that I can clearly see swirling around unnaturally. A mist is a vampire who died. I want to perma-kill the vampire.
The other goes: The hero storms the house, action-slides over the table and pours into a war zone with hails of bolts raining down from the alcove and the hero looks at the ground and fireballs the shit out of it because it looks foggy.
This might be a good example of coordination issues. Any game is a conversation between DM and players. Orion seemed to have this issue a lot -- he would just not tell Matt his thoughts, which meant Matt was struggling to empathize with his ideas. Generally, the more you communicate your intent, the more the DM is going to try to make it happen within the world they're building together. The whole group was surprised by Tylieri being a vampire. They didn't specifically go there to murder a vampire. So they didn't state anything beforehand, like "when I see a vampire, I'm just going to sunbeam the dude".
If you as a player know in advance how you want to handle stuff, communicate that to the DM. Liam is doing small stuff all the time, so it makes more world sense when he refers back to it.
Love Matt but I don't know why he gave Marisha such a hard time about the misty vampire essence. I mean, they all knew they were fighting vampires and that they can turn to mist afterwards... totally reasonable to assume the mist surrounding a big fight is a recently dispatched vamp.
To be fair if I burst into a room with a bunch of other enemies I probably wouldn't even notice the mist.
But it's true that he was stricter than before.
Especially since they're indoors, an environment not normally known for its misty atmosphere.
Just came from the previous episode and was hoping Geralt would be looking at me.
We get to hear elder scrolls music now. YES
+Steven Ritter they were expecting six humanoids. Not one triceratops.
9:05 - Matt gets VERY excited ;)
10:10 - Further explanation of the title
13:40 - Recap ends
14:55 - Scanlan's Dino Attack (A Legend is Born)
18:07 - Jurassic Park~
23:27 - Taliesin and Marisha share a moment
24:35 - Upper Camera stops working, starts again at around 26:00
25:13 - Idiot guard is an idiot
25:55 - Scanlan and the others realize that he has no fire spells, Marisha gives him what for
26:53 - Critical Cloud
32:01 - Scanlan regains his sense of self preservation
34:44 - Scanlan find the key to success
35:46 - Scanlan drinks the potion
41:47 - BIGBY'S HAAAAAND shamone
44:02 - Those guards probably regret their life choices
48:33 - Scanlan's epic escape
53:33 - The Legend of Scanlan "Rambo" Shorthalt
54:02 - Meanwhile...
1:16:53 - Taliesin and Travis share a moment
1:32:45 - How Do You Want To Do This? (1:32:00 for full attack/Nat 20)
1:50:50 - Keyleth finishes the Vamp
2:00:29 - Advertising
2:07:14 - Only Keyleth and Scanlan remember the plan
2:11:04 - Percy's not the only one with no mercy
2:12:21 - Percy aka JOHN CENA
I think Matt's concern on the metagaming was that Percy had never really identified the guy as a vampire. I would probably have allowed it because it was so similar, but at least in theory, Percy should have made a knowledge check first. Grog perhaps would have been in a better position to say, but he didn't answer.
@@Gargs454 Grog probably wouldn't anyway since he was raging.
Certainly a fair point on Grog. As I said I probably would have allowed it, but I can see Matt's point.
@@Gargs454 I didn't make these time stamps. To be honest, I only come back to this video for Scanlan's stuff. Couldn't care less about the second half of this episode, although I'm glad I've watched it before. Like going back to watch a TV series you love, but skipping that one episode because it wasn't your favorite.
Matthew Betts Huh... I mean, that’s your way of doing things I guess so you do you. Kind of sad you only like half the episode but anyway, thanks for the stamps.
I feel that keyleth could definitely have guessed that they were fighting a vamp! Thats so sad that he didn’t let her do that!
Definitely and if I was in a fight in a town known for vampires and one of my friends walked in mid fight (like K) it would definitely be plausible that I would warn them that the mist was a vampire even if I was mid attack. They also fought vampires that formed out of mist in the tunnel so it seems reasonable that mist inside a building would be another one.
This. It feels to me that Matt’s ego gets in the way some times. Keyleth isn’t stupid they know they’re fighting vamps and she specifically got info on how to kill them. Mist doesn’t just happen to be in the middle of a house foyer surrounded by your battle beaten Ally’s. Wtf.
@@tribelevy2854 They're in the middle of a fight with 10 random mfs- a lot of stuff can create mist or something that looks like it. It could be from any spellcaster, any source of fire, a couple of items, Percy's gun, like Percy literally creates black smoke IN THIS FIGHT when he hexes someone, why wouldn't she assume that was a vampire??? It's not as crazy as you think
*allies
@@chrisfull7034 you’re on something bro. Just look at the difference between smoke and mist. Percy is making black smoke. The 10 crossbow men ain’t making smoke or mist anyhow and a 11th level adventurer would know what’s smoke what’s mist and what is vampire mist considering they just barely fought them and witnessed them mist out. It’s not smoke. There’s no fire. Mist and smoke are different. Keyleth would know to zap it. You have no ground to stand on. Keep sucking that critical role dick though
Felt like he was super hard on her specifically this episode. Like she was paying for all of Orion's past mistakes. Or worse--he was answering the chats unwarranted complaints about her from previous weeks.
I love how genuinely excited Travis is whenever something cool happens, or when he gets to make his attacks. He's so into it!
Once again Scanlan brings down the ruckus, best character ever.
On side note: Matt gave them literally a clue on what to do saying "our contact was good and said you were coming" and nobody catched on that missing important piece of information.
You're right but I think Liam went for the roleplay instead. I mean he helped kill a child.
+DeithWX he also gave them a bunch of bottles of alcohol to make molativ cocktails with. They just threw them in the bag of holding and forgot about it though like they have been with most things.
I'd love to hear the ideal solution Matt came up with when he designed these encounters compared to how they actually ended up doing it.
+Angelous Mortis I would assume they do exist, considering it's just a bottle of alcohol with a rag inside, dipped in something flammable.
+Angelous Mortis probably. If they were like a researcher.
+Angelous Mortis I'm sure they do I always though of Alchemist's Fire as Molotov Cocktails. The concept of a bottle being thrown and it bursting to flame is the same behind both.
I will never not love VM planning here.
"Let's have one person attack one house as a distraction for the guards."
Proceed to attack both at the same time, which prevents guards having enough time to run to the distraction attack, meaning the entire plan was useless, other than to let Scanlon show off.
Meanwhile, Scanlan gets to wreck shit with as much showmanship as possible and disagreements over metagaming and breaking role-play ensue. Welcome to D&D.
To be fair, that portion of the plan was disrupted by Grog being a little over eager to get to the killing part of their plan before they finished the stealthing bit.
vm is so fucking dumb.
@@Birthday888 To be even fairer, last episode Vax did tell Grog to "go for the door" (even though Liam immediately denied it after Grog ran off to storm the house).
@@Postoronniy it was definitely vax's fault. i think vax gets way too much of a pass even though he usually acts as stupid or even stupider than grog.
Marisha: "Mist in this time of year? At this time of day? In a town full of vampires? Localized entirely around 3 party members?"
Matt: "Yes."
Marisha: "Can I sunbeam it?"
Matt: "Stop metagaming"
Basically. It was a Horse-shit call.
No he was correct to call this. No matter how obvious it was, she rolled for it and she failed the roll. Therefore she has no right to complain
She was metagaming and got called out and punished for it
@@apophis456 you must be real fun to play with. Do I have to roll to breathe in your games?
James Haughney I mean you can insult me all you want and sit on a high horse but he gave her a chance, she failed and that’s that. You’re thinking about it because you know it’s a vampire, but Keyleth runs into the room and while Marisha is focused on the fact that there’s a cloud of mist (and a small one at that) during a rain storm while her friend is riddled with crossbow bolts and there’s 7 guards shooting at him - she failed the roll and didn’t know it was a vampire.
Tough luck try again next time
@@apophis456 The roll was rigged, no way the DC should have been higher than 17.
She absolutely would've known, or at the very least, suspected that was a vampire considering less than 24 hours ago they learned that mist can turn into vampires, they're in a town of undead and one of the people they're after is confirmed a vampire.
especially given an int check above a 15
Exacly, I think Matt was on edge from her trying to retcon going into a house
Shit happens.
Yeah I think that was residual Orion Metagaming bs on Matts part. Keyleth would 100% have been able to sus out that a pool of localised mist, INSIDE A HOUSE, surrounded by her allies and a giant pool of congealed blood and flesh remnants, was a vampire going mist form. Also she's a Druid so combating unnatural stuff is kind of her thing.
@@iank472 one of those ally's just started spewing smoke recently so maybe it's reasonable to have her unable to tell at a glance in the middle of combat if mist is Percy's smoke or a vampire, that she didn't even know they were fighting.