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I don’t think it’s really nice to film a kid having a meltdown… I wouldn’t want someone filming me when I have meltdowns
This is not hating on you or anything your point is fair but after thinking for a while I’m pretty sure this was for educational purposes and what to do if your stuck in the same situation and don’t know what to do.
@@Pegasus-xv1qy I get that but it is an invasion of privacy and she could explain a meltdown without invading her sons privacy
Exactly. When I learn how to handle a situation with CPR, you learn in a modeled situation. Because it wouldn't be appropriate to film someone in that vulnerable state for education purposes. Also consider that he is being filmed as part of Mom's family channel, that doesn't necessarily mean he understands in the moment of being filmed in a meltdown that this is for educational reasons. Also, she opens the video by stating "a family outing ended in an autistic meltdown". Having mom film the day was obviously a goal and a part of their experience at the zoo, and that didn't change. I think the point they are making is that it's really unfair for an autistic child to have to appear on film when struggling like that, it would make an uncomfortable moment all the more awkward and difficult. Granted it's only a few brief shots, but that is just what we are seeing.
@@jasperk5562 but she did purposely put the camera on him in a vulnerable state
@@Pegasus-xv1qyNo, no no, this argument is the worst, why should others "education" matter more than the child's personal privacy? They are not a learning tool. There are so many ways to educate that do not violate their privacy. Collaborate with autistic adults, who can consent to speaking about their experiences. Tell it as a story later instead of filming it, direct others to recourses about meltdowns, make a video asking autistic individuals in the comments to give their experiences for others to read and learn.
Posting your children in a vulnerable state is not the way to do this
Poor kids, it would suck to have your parents constantly filming you and uploading to the internet before you could even understand or consent to it.
Parents don't care, they see those kids as a meal ticket. Fucking shameful.
exactly
if i had to do this i wouldve probably killed myself already. being recorded is probably one of my biggest triggers so having to be constantly recorded would be HELL
Especially your worst moments
Yeah
Hope the siblings don't end up hating him for ending trips like this for them sometimes as a kid it can be hard to understand even if you try explaining to them.
They're his siblings. They understand and won't hate him for anything. It's kids like friends and cousins who aren't always there who would have a hard time understanding.
as long as they're actually good parents they won't.
I did that once. We had to leave early because I had a meltdown when I was a kid at a theme park with my cousins. Now that I look back I feel terrible but they probably don’t even remember.
@@Delicate_Disasterdont be so sure, because we see it all the time, parents treating kids diffrently often leads to resentment on the kids who miss out.
She promises to return soon to the zoo, if she doesnt the others will rember. If they leave special activitys for the other kids (school plays, birthdaypartys, sport events ect) it cant be redone. Many parents makes thouse mistakes. And i get why, they are easy to make because an aduld will understand. I child will not. You need a lot of balance to raise special needs kids and i hope they have that :)
@@Delicate_Disaster his siblings may not hate him because they see the whole situation, but its easier to feel resentful even of you understand. A few individial outing with their parents might balance things out. My little sister was often sick. We knew it wasn't her fault but the disease, but sometime it's frustrating because you're just a child. It's hard enough for an adult.
All I know is that if I was Sawyer, I wouldn’t want these videos of me taken and my most vulnerable moments shared with the world. He is too young to give proper consent to be videoed, and I doubt that he would give consent to this being put up if he were old enough.
He wouldn't. None of their children can give informed consent.
Absolutely agree. Parents shouldn't put their kids on the internet especially showing tough and vulnerably moments like meltdowns. The kids should be able to give consent and want to be filmed while understanding the impact these videos can have.
He wouldn’t understand anyway
THANK YOU for not showing your child in an active meltdown. That's so exposing for children and they deserve privacy too 😊😊😊
frfr (i’m assuming you’re being sarcastic)
@@ommie_ 100%
So disappointed to see parents still posting videos of their children having very vulnerable moments just so they can get more views. It’s so disrespectful to him.
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I can see why sawer had a meltdown he was probably really looking for it and then he didn’t see it. Oh and good job making sure sawer was in the right space he needed in that moment.(and ur an AMAZING mother for all your kids❤❤❤)
More like right space for her camera to exploit him 😂
Why are u encouraging child exploitation like this? “A great mom” you gotta be joking right? This is satire right?
@sunglowwolf-7917 it's clearly sarcastic
P.s not trying to be mean
@@moondrop2677 I hope it is but honestly I’ve seen so many comments that LOOK like a joke but when you play along they confirm they weren’t joking 🙃… when u see comments like that at least a few times a week then you really start wondering if people are joking or if that’s what they truly believe…
If he calmed down by the time you got to the car why not have one parent go back in. And have one sit with him whike he naps ir whatever for a bit. No need to end it early for the other kids too
Yea ikr
@sockcroc that's not true. I am actually autistic myself. First of all you don't have to say we are going to leave. You call it a break. Then if he wants to go back he can but meltdowns are tiring. I want to sleep after them. And it might be better to nap for 30 minutes then go back in. Cause being tired doesn't help.
@@annabellechenoweth9469 Oops! I’m sorry I responded to the wrong comment, I was trying to respond to someone saying to keep him in the car afterwards while everyone else goes back in. Naps definitely do help!
@@Astronatcreates it's ok
@@annabellechenoweth9469that last sentence is so true. I’m autistic myself, and I have a story to share: last year, I had a meltdown right b4 my benchmark exam in Spanish class. I was upset that I didn’t have graded work handed back to study from (the students sitting closest to me did. Most were juniors (like me at that time) and some seniors). I got upset and threw my folder on the floor. It nearly hit the foot of the boy next to me. Our teacher came over and asked if I needed to duck into the restroom. I politely declined, and then turned to the boy, named Dakota, beside me. Once he returned my gaze, I asked, “Why did she ask me that?” To which he said calmly, “Sometimes people have social anxiety, and they need to get away to cool down.” Then his friends chimed in, saying that they weren’t really helping my situation, though they’d tried to calm me down beforehand. (Id told them I was autistic)
Great work, the only thing that leaves me with a bad aftertaste is that you openly show your struggling child. Generally saying, showing a childs fave on the internet is a very bad idea, but showing them in such a vulnerable state really rubs me the wrong way.
I'm just curious do the other kids ever get upset when either of their brothers cause you to have to leave fun outings early or are they used to it by now and just take it for what it is?
Edit: When I made this comment I was asking an actual question, a lot of people took that and ran. There is too much hate in the world for y'all to be ganging up on CHILDREN like come on as if there wasn't enough bad in this world and y'all are picking on little kids.
Given the fact that him having a autism also affects them and the way they function as a family. They probably sat the children down and made sure that they understand and let them ask questions.
I believe they should get a chance to go out without the aurism child every now and then, so that they can get the chance to enjoy themself fully
@barringtonacademy7340 If my family had left me behind just to ensure that they would have a good time, I would have been devastated as a kid. As an adult, I can choose to stay home when I know that going somewhere will not likely be enjoyable for me, but having other people make that decision for me without asking me really hurts.
The other kids do have activities that don't involve Sawyer and Griffin, such as soccer and dance classes, but family outings should include the whole family as much as possible.
@TheKjoy85 Yeah but see in this case we are talking zoo. Imagine this was say Disney or something the other kids were really looking forward to and they can't just "try again later". I get how it would be upsetting to the children with issues but sometimes you need to have a plan so all children get what is fair instead of just the kid with issues. Even if that's paying for an extra adult to come and handle the easier kids if sawyer needs to go sit in the car
@@theepic360 we’ll I’m sure when you find out you have an autistic child you do a lot of reading up. Have a lot do conversations with doctors and therapist, ect about how things may or may not affects them. Im sure they’re trying to do what’s best for all their kiddos.
Dude, I don’t think you should film this. It’s great that you show life with an autistic child but you are still putting him on the internet before he can even give informed consent to it. Not cool
Right. And they can talk about their experiences and share their advice without filming the child in such a vulnerable position
She is the consent, as she’s the parent, children don’t legally have consent as they aren’t competent to understand and make informed decisions, they have feelings which the parent can take into consideration. And the decision making is still up to the parents, they decide what’s in the best interest of their child, regardless of their feelings. As she’s a loving mother that’s also neurodivergent she’s understands her child the best, not some stranger, since she’s put the video out obviously the child doesn’t care. If he ever aware and starts to feel bothered being recorded, since she loves him she’ll most likely will stop filming him.
@peltycrikts6990 The video of him, posted without his informed consent, will be on the internet for the entire world to see forever. So he's out of luck, if he grows up and doesn't like that his mom posted him in vulnerable positions all over the internet AND made money off of it. Parents do make the decision and they should make those decisions with their child's best interest in mind. I don’t think violating your child's privacy for monetary gain can ever be justified as the best decision for his well being.
@peltycrikts6990 "obviously the child doesn't care"... no, the child doesn't understand, and that's why parents make decisions for their child, except their supposed to be decisions that protect their child
@@ameliav6771 A child doesn't have llegal consent, the parents are their consent and legally dictate their privacy, so. You thinking "The video of him, posted without his informed consent" doesn't exist to even matter. Vulnerable positions, your literally clueless that's not new to all children since the dawn of times, they're always vulnerable, as in they have feelings they don't comprehend, and too stupid on how the world works, and ignorant as to why their parents make decions that are advocating for them. That's why parents decide for us regardless of a child's feelings at the time, because they don't matter in the log run and are basically forgotten about as they mature, these decisions literally serve the purpose of bigger picture in the best interest for their kids future. That as the children mature as they grow up, they will no longer have have those incompetent feelings, and come understand their parents intentions, and why they raised them their way, and what they've benefitted.
So what if the parents profits for the temporary exposure, that the parents are controlling what's worth exposing. Apprently you're very ignorant to the fact, parents often recieve money for their children, based on many factors, including health, education. As children can't be legally responsible so the parents use their child's profits for the betterment of their children. Her videos educating the public, of snippets of his life they deemed isn't exposing anything, makes his life easier, he's actually profiting from his vulnerability, as all kids do.
When he's legally an adult, and even if he's actually independent to have legal consent. His luck is having loving parents already understanding who he is, how they raised him, to know what personally matters to him, that he can trust for his best interest for every aspect of his entire life. That as you believe he'll grow up to understand, then his parents will understand way above you, what he can personally comprehend, then can explain to him if he has questions, their descisions, where his money went, what it did to improve his livilhood, and how it was saved for his future. That's way more than a stranger assuming.
Hey not to be rude but Sawyer was looking a lot at the camera maybe that's probably what caused his meltdown
Sigh. Can we not normalize filming kids having a meltdown or upset and using their autism for clout? I have an anxiety and panic disorder and if my mom filmed my attacks and posted them I’d be suing the moment I hit 16.
Poor kid, why do you film him in this situation 😢
To exploit their kid for their channel profits… these are just another case of family abuse channels…
Womp womp
cry about it ipad kid
Womp womp? @@Thefuture1271
As an adult with autism, I really hated the word melt down. I wasn't having meltdowns. I was having panic attacks as a very young child. And being told I was melting down or causing a fuss. Or throwing a tantrum. It's sad to see adults still using these negative words to describe their children's worst mental moments... ik it's just a word, but they add up over time.
From my experience, my shutdowns are caused by sensory overload, and I can't express myself anymore. My meltdowns are caused by some sort of distress, such as unexpected, last minute changes to our plans, repairmen showing up when I wasn't expecting them, or a large spider up by the ceiling in the living room. I make my family deal with unexpected visitors because I am usually too stressed to talk. My brother had to deal with the spider. It was just a giant house spider, but I couldn't do anything else until my brother had dealt with the spider.
The word meltdown isn't negative unless it's used that way. Unlike the word tantrum.
But when it's used inaccurately, that can certainly be harmful.
@seajelly2421 the origin of the word melt down comes from nuclear reactors melting down. It's a metaphor for a catastrophe. Language is very powerful and visual. A panic attack is not a meltdown. It's your brains attempt at protecting itself.
A child has a panic attack over a lack of a carousel ?
@gmfutube not at all. That's my point , a child has a panick attack because something that was supposed to be doing he couldn't do. And the plans change and that bothers him. He's most likely got better sense input as well which means just walking around was probably extremely overwhelming.
It’s nice to see you guys all go out anyways despite the hardships- for sure u can go again soon enough✌🏼🥰
They shouldn't be hermits, however, she should plan family outings that are non-harmful for Sawyer
because meltdowns are traumatizing. Problems with this outing: 1) Two long and too many places (I actually don't know any autistic adults who would
be able to manage that kind of day without repercussions of some sort afterwards -- it may mean needing to be quiet for a long time afterwards, for
example)2) Places chosen were too busy, noisy, bright, probably even smelly because it was the zoo, with too much to take in 3) No built in snacks or breaks
The goal isn't to force your child to try to overlook their body's (nervous system) responses and push through the pain. I mention pain because
that happens even if you are having a good time (there is just always a limit). One of the parents should have taken Sawyer home after a couple of hours.
When I helped in the special Ed classes one of the things they told us to do was to make things that the students didn’t like into something positive
In this example with the carousel it would be like telling him that it’s a good thing they’re able to fix it when it’s broken so we can use it another day, and that you wouldn’t want to ride on a broken carousel and risk getting hurt or something like that
In no way is it full proof but sometimes it helped them not have as big of meltdowns
Hey, it's nice to spread awareness and all and I'm sure you have good intentions but you're actually putting your kids infront of thousand of strangers watching causing them to be in danger and then you are exploiting them. I hope you find a better way to inform people rather then using your kids for clicks, views, likes and cash.
you’re so right
Your right
"It was a little hot and crowded. That's not what triggered Sawyer's meltdown."
1) You can't know what is contributing to his state or really
what it is because he's unable to fully tell you. You cannot tell whether he was "thriving" as you say. My partner (an adult who can communicate well)
has low affect and like many autistic people may try to do what other people are doing -- I'm constantly checking
in with him to see if he's okay and even then he often has to reflect on whether he is or not. Because
remember, our internal responses in a situation like this are involuntary, nervous system reactions - not a function
of training or our conscious thoughts.
2) It's not about triggers (meaning a single cause) with autistic people. Meltdowns and shutdowns are built cumulative
3) If you acknowledge that it was a "little" hot and crowded it may have been overwhelming for Sawyer (our senses are keener than
yours and we take in much, much more).
In that context, what you describe and what can be seen in the video
is an extremely challenging environment for most autistic people -- EVEN IF, we are enjoying ourselves.
Meltdowns have nothing to do with volition -- they are the result of our nervous systems being overloaded and what you
describe is the perfect situation for that to happen.
Most autistic adults would never want or attempt the day you describe.
For many of us two hours of that kind of day would be the limit and then we would need to go
back home to our familiar things and some quiet.
If you really want to ensure that you are
accommodating Sawyer (since you don't know what is too much for him, he may not know either -- the overwhelm is involuntary and cumulative) then
the best model would be to choose outings for the family that are calmer and offer opportunities for relief
from the sensory environment AND you would have one of you take Sawyer home after a couple of hours. Yes, you may
feel sad that all of your kids are not doing the same thing -- but Sawyer is different from your other kids and so
has different needs.
Also, as you
mentioned the lack of it snacks were also not there -- not having food isn't a "trigger" either but it definitely
is one of the factors that can build into a meltdown or a shutdown.
NOTE: What I am recommending for your family outings
is commonly how autistic ADULTS manage their days. It's not about behaviors. It's about our nervous systems and the amount
of stimuli and input we are processing (much, much greater than yours). I also didn't notice Sawyer having a fidget or familiar toy or comfort item or stimming. All of those things
might help him to self-regulate in a tough environment. But again, you just need to not put him in those situations.
The interventions you commonly give -- shoulder rubs, etc. don't deal with the actual issue which is you have someone
who is differently calibrated than you are and just cannot sustain certain situations. It would be like if I
put your hand over a flame and forced you to keep it there and as you are struggling with the pain you were giving me backrubs.
No, you just need to plan situations for me that work and/or limit how long I'm in a situation that isn't.
Family fun shouldn't
mean Sawyer having to grin and bear it. I would have taken my child to that zoo at a quieter less bright time of day -- like in the late afternoon
or evening. Or I would have planned another kind of outing with less hustle bustle.
She explained what upset him. She is his mother and knows him better than anyone. And there will be more trips to the zoo. So it's not like they are missing out on anything.
@@ginabell694 Being someone's Mom (especially if allistic), when the child in question is neurodivergent doesn't equate to knowing someone better than anyone.
It's quite common to have parents of autistic children privilege what's "normal" or their own (unanalyzed) desires, for example for their child to smile or hug them, over the child's needs and way they are naturally attuned.
The differences in nervous system alignment and processing mean that it can be exceedingly hard for someone who isn't autistic to understand how things are from their child's perspective.
I'm not attacking her parenting in what I said. I am pointing out how such outings typically are for someone who is autistic and the workarounds that need to be considered so that we aren't essentially suffering in silence.
Everything I wrote was meant to be helpful, as it seemed clear to me that she had not considered some things that are super obvious from an autistic adult's perspective and that autistic children (especially if non-speaking) will have trouble getting others to understand.
This was put so well! Tysm for communicating this. Autistic salute for you 🫡
Just because you because you have an adult partner who can communicate what’s going on with you doesn’t make you Temple Grandin. You weren’t there that day, and you don’t know sawyer. You don’t know what triggers him or what he might enjoy. That’s beyond rude to tell a mom she doesn’t know when her child is happy and what made him upset. He’s 7; I think she knows him pretty well at this point.
Not all activities can be exactly what will work best for Sawyer; and if they never take him outside of his comfort zone, he will never know what new experiences he likes.
My sister Katy Griffin has Autism too and she was born blind in 2010. I love her so much and sometimes she gets on my nerves like Katy will use her nails on my skin and make sores on my arms and hands too. Sabrina Griffin, Katy Griffin's older sister. ❤️🩷🫶💛💜🤎🤎🖤💙💙🧡🩶🥰
I'd suggest not sharing full names for safety pruposes but i'm so glad you're so supportive of your sister :>
i understand why sawyer had a meltdown and i dont balme him, but i do feel bad for his siblings. as a sibling of a high-functioning autistic one time we were at the california science center and he just refused to go inside and i was super exited to go that day so i was really disappointed when we had to go back home.
I'm autistic too and my parents sometimes get angry with me if I have a meltdown. By the way, it's unfair to the other kids having them all leave just because of Sawyer's meltdown. Have one parent sit with him in the car for a couple of hours and then swap and have the other parent sit with him so that neither of you miss out on as much stuff as you did by leaving.
Get the camera out of your child's face when you're kid is having a meltdown
I wish my parents were understanding as a kid. I began having meltdowns/crying fits at age 2 bc overwhelmed and everyone else just assumed it was behavioral bc early 2000's no one cared to help
I mean it is behavioral it may have a reason but it is a behavior
My brother (and me) is autistic and it is really nice knowing someone else knows what it’s ❤️
Why are you filming him?? He's having a tough time emotionally, and that's the last thing he needs. Somebody filming him. And your other kids didn't get any attention (but correct me if I'm wrong as that was a short video).
I love that your kids communicate together just to help out one another. ASD can be rough . .meltdowns. . I'm always overwhelmed with mine. . .swinging arms with fists and kicking. .Then you get those looks from strangers like you are the bad guy. ASD should be taught on a regular basis. 😉
Absolutely it should. These children shouldn’t be judged and neither should their parents who are just trying their best! Love my baby boy more than anything in this world. It gets me heated when ignorance comes around.
If only asd didn't exist 😔
But it does, and so many other issues that parents go through with them just to help that particular person grow up.@@Puddles01
@@Puddles01 do you need to be so ableist?? That is incredibly rude!
@@EmMakesMusic123 i have autism level 2, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Attention Deficit Disorder and Asperger's Syndrome and for 7 years, i was bullied in school and at home by students, teachers and family members. Am i not allowed to think like this?
I’ve known allot of people who stil hate their autistic sibling for things like this. They went from being a happy family to all the attention going to the new autistic sibling and thus basically being ignored. Every time they went anywhere it was ruined by screaming and the autistic kid hitting them. The parents of one family refused to realize that the sons case of autism was to severe and it was ruining the lives of the other kids. The parents needed realize he needed to go into a special facility but refused to do so. Second family I knew the autistic child was pushed onto the brother as if he was their personal babysitter. If he ever wanted to go hang out with friends he needed to take his autistic brother with him. It wouldn’t have been so bad if the kid wasn’t so extremely violent and destructive. Every time he didn’t get his way he would get violent and he was covered in giant bruises. If he ever got something nice as a gift the autistic brother would get mad because he wanted it so he destroyed it. They refused to place a lock on his room since he would have even bigger meltdowns if he couldn’t get in the room to destroy things. The most awe inducing thing was that these parents expected that the siblings would just let the autistic sibling live with them when they got to old to take care of them. Last I know of they all cut contact with their parents.
I'm also experienced a meltdown period when I was in elementary school because I had a mild autism, at that time I would often throw tantrums at school, cry out loud, also being an aggressive, and my mother had to think about how to make me comfortable when I got home. What I usually do during a meltdown is take a bath, up to almost an hour
Then when I felt calm, my mother would invite me to tell her what happened, why I had a tantrum. But if it's a meltdown, I usually can't tell but I'm can do drawing. My active mom asked questions and got a picture of her answers.
Thankfully the older I get, the more I can tell what happened. This is very important for my mother, so that she can take the next appropriate action
Not sure why you are getting these negative comments. Clearly the negative commenters do not have experience with people with ASD. You always do such a great job with your kids, and they all seem so sweet. You're a great mom.
Whats ASD
@@LRC7 Autism Spectrum Disorder. That's Sawyer's diagnosis. One of the common symptoms is extreme sensitivity to change and sensory stimuli. Things that may not bother neurotypical people can leave people with ASD feeling frantic and overwhelmed.
i don’t like how she records her kids meltdowns, if my parents recorded me screaming and crying when i was 4, i’d be extremely embarrassed and upset.
@@emiliegunder ohh tysm sry for late reply I didn't see my notification until now
@ommie_
I do agree with that but in general I don't agree with exploitation of children
Look, as an autistic person I know that I never wanted to be in videos only photos especially when I am having a meltdown, but on the other hand this can help loads of people deal with our meltdowns and these are some really good practices for meltdowns.
Can't she just explain what's happening without showing the kid in a vulnerable state? I'm not autistic so I know I have no right to say anything here, but I do not like to be filmed and SPECIALLY when I'm stressed or upset, I'd feel so much worse knowing someone was recording me and posting it online :/
I also know he's probably too young to know what being "posted on the internet" means but what about when he's older..? Idk this just seems so wrong to me
@@DuckyDoesSmth9517 yeah she could’ve but it’s harder to explain than to show how to help
1st time watching your family so i don't know the details.
But it's sad the other children have to suffer his meltdowns.
They will resent it.
I dealt with treating children and grown children, who's sibling had problems.
Their major issues were: feeling they got less personal attention & weren't a priority, not getting to do or finish things because of the other sibling, and having to act as if they were ok with everything or be reminded that their sibling needed extra patience and care. Making them more aware their sibling was #1 priority and so they just hid it.
They'd say "I'd never complain and just act happy, because they (parent) made me feel bad if i acted any other way"
All the children have to suffer through their parents constantly filming and exploring their privacy. I have a feeling that's going to be something they'll be far more resentful of in the future than their sibling with autism, who doesn't chose to harm them.
They're not suffering. And they won't resent him if raised properly. As in making it up to them with individual activities. Which I'm sure they do. I was sick a lot growing up. I have two sisters. There were times when I got more attention or plans were changed or cancelled. But my parents always made it up to us and my sister's and I get along very well.
Let him have a meltdown. I say leave him
In the chair so he knows it’s not okay to ruin the day, you said by the time you got back to the car he calmed down. Ive been around a lot of autistic people and this is usually what works into normalizing them as they grow up
YESS, I have autism but I’ve never really had these meltdowns but, if I’m overstressed, tired or too many sensory things the best way to calm me down is to leave me alone in a room for a few minutes.
it’s different for everyone!
My aunt’s best friend has an autistic child who is towards the more extreme end of the spectrum. She expects from him what she expects from her other children and he doesn’t get babied or get away with things. His doctor told her she needs to keep exactly what she’s doing because it is actually helping him be more functional (idk if that’s the right word).
@@Rio26202 no I completely agree, I’ve gotten a lot of flack for this comment but it’s the truth, and all the people commenting hate obviously don’t know how to handle their autistic children without revolving the world around them!
im autistic and i completely agree, i annoyingly often dont get left alone when im having a meltdown and being alone helps a lot to relax
it is very much different for everyone though
Oh my goodness I can relate I don't like large crowds I am having trouble getting along with one of housemates they just trigger me I believe that they get joy out of pressing my buttons sometimes change bothers me I am adult with both AUTISM and Adhd Sometimes I get overwhelmed and have meltdowns.
It's good that she's helping her kid through his meltdown but is this really inappropriate time to film just imagine her setting the camera infront of him while he is crying and confused. However it's good she is raising awareness about being autistic t
It's good to make people aware of the downside of this affliction. People tend to glorify it too much, what if some unprepared, uneducated foster parent adopts an autistic child just because some influencer made it seem "fun"
Being autistic is not an affliction. Poor choice of word.
And Family channels like them are the exact influencers who glorify it and make it seem "fun".
@@ameliav6771 Not really a "poor" choice of words. Affliction applies here, because it's something that affects the way you live.
In what world is it okay to come and get mad at someone for something like that? It's a word. On top of that, I'm pretty sure there's NOTHING offensive about it. It would be different if I were TRYING to be offensive, because then, I feel like it would be obvious; I'd be using VERY different words.
@@jadehill4491 the definition of affliction: a cause of persistent pain or distress. 2. : great suffering.
I think that's a very negative word to associate with autism, as if part of who they are is just pain and suffering.
Imagine a child growing up and understanding that their life long diagnosis was refered to as an a source of pain and suffering. Someone with autism is not a source of pain and suffering, they are just different and have brains that work differently. Nothing is wrong with them, the world was not created for them, it just means they get through life differently. There are just far more appropriate and positive words that can be used.
Maybe better phrased as "make people aware of the different experiences of raising children with
- this diagnosis
- who are autism
- unique challenges
- a different needs than you
@@ameliav6771 bro, I'm AFFLICTED by deafness. It's not all bad. But it ain't easy, either. I have to constantly remind people who have been around me for years what it's like to be deaf.
I have to constantly remind people to speak up.
I have to constantly make sure I didn't hear someone wrong.
I'm sure autism isn't exactly FUN in many ways. I'm sure it causes distress sometimes.
Why "causes"? Because it wouldn't be as likely without autism. Factually speaking.
So yeah, I feel that "affliction" is the right word here.
The definition you found and used omitted the part where an affliction, by pure definition, doesn't have to be a PERMANENT suffering. It's just something that CAUSES suffering.
In fact, I never said anything about making others suffer because you have autism. I never once even hinted at it. Do not twist the words of strangers. You seem to either be narcissistic, or not trying very hard to understand what I'm saying.
@jadehill4491 I don't think affliction it's the best word to use. If you are comfortable with deafness being called an affliction, then that's your opinion.
I'm not trying to twist your words, so I apologize if you feel that way. I'm not autistic but do have family members who are that do not consider an affliction. They simply have minds that work differently than mine. It does not cause me to suffer or cause them suffering because I understand that they're just different than I am and we make lifestyle changes so there is no suffering. But if there are difficult times, we sure as H*** don't film it and post it on the internet.
I think the real narcissists are people who post their children, who can't consent online when they're vulnerable. I think they pretend to be "educational" and helping others to cover up their selfish and exploitative ways to make money at the detriment of their children.
Just my two cents.
Don’t fricjen film your child during a emotional episode do know how fricken de-humanizing that is. Because I friggin do. There is no reason ever you should show your kid being sad or mad then post it for internet clout. This entire influencer thing has really gon out of hand.
Glad youre spending time with your kids though a camera lens. Bet that meltdown would have been avoided if you paid more attention
And that's exactly how you neglect the needs of the others!
What is the alternative?
@@Godisamazing7 Find a babysitter and take them out separately?
@@sivndoesanimation9720 Just because of one kid has autism does not mean they can't do fun things as a family like this.
@@dragonire_dino0856 And as a result the other kids have to cut their travel short, one is having meltdown and mum is stressed out. Don’t do it if you don’t have the capacity for the worst outcome.
They neglect the needs of their children by filming them and posting it on the internet.
Okey… just let him have the meltdown and ignore it.. he will never learn that this is not the way to go
With autism it doesn't always work like that, just letting them meltdown and leave him will make him feel like no one cares and he won't feel safe anymore, autistic kids can't control meltdowns so it's not like tantrum they can't learn to stop, them autistic people will have meltdowns there whole life they can't learn not to, if you just let him meltdown and ignore it he could shutdown which is were an autistic person becomes unresponsive they can also cause self harm if there in this state. Shutdowns cause all there senses to over load and it will mean they physically can't talk and could just curl up and not move just to try and make it all go away so letting him meltdown will just make it worse and he will not learn. no hate just explaining have a good day
You can’t ignore a meltdown. Let them have some time to relax or something that they really enjoy. The only thing I hate is the way they handled this situation.
If you do this your children will resent you. -a child who’s parent didn’t handle sensory overload properly
ignoring him will only make his meltdown bigger and will lead him to stop showing his emotions and stop asking for help when he’s stressed, leading to medical conditions like depression and could even lead to suicide.
@@ommie_ no it wont lol, how big can a tantrum get? Can he die from it? No so fk it lock him in his room or put him on the side and just ignore him for 20-40 minutes and he will be FIIINEE its 2023 and everyone suddenly needs special treatment thats BS😂 if you put a positive spin onto something really bad the kid will never learn from it and will die alone and miserable and just because suddenly everyone is a retard,bipolar or has PTSD etc etc etc..
Solidarity Momma!!!!! Go with your mom gut for when to push through and when to go home. We didn't go to an amusement park because the bounce house was closed and we knew our ASD guy would just freak out and we'd have to go home. ❤
You don't end the trip because of his meltdown. That's not how the world works. Our son has ADHD and can have meltdowns about certain things. Calming him down is the goal. However, giving into him and his ways is NOT the goal. We have a daughter as well to end the trip early because her brother had a meltdown, that's a no go. The other kids have feelings as well.
Idk your situation but i saw how sunny it was and as an autistic adult i would be absolutely struggling without sunglasses and a peaked cap to keep the sun out of my eyes. Maybe something to consider for next time :)
As an autistic adult, finding out that the carousel was gone would have destroyed my visit. Sorry, Sawyer! Cruel blow.
me too, that’s sucks for him!!
Would u also like your meltdowns being posted on the internet when ur of an age that can’t consent? If no then stop encouraging her, this is a horrible parent.
one parent can take him back. i won’t let my kid ruin my other children’s day.
Nothing worse than a favorite thing disappearing to a child… 😢 hopefully, it will be back soon so Sawyer can be all smiles for it.
One thing to say.
Stop exploiting your kids and he literally put his hand infront the camera meaning he DOESNT WANT TO BE FILMED STOP IGNORING ALL THE BACKLASH
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It’s good to spread awareness about this but you should only film such sensitive moments when your child is old enough to give consent,I know you did this with good intentions but posting videos of people at their worst moments without their consent is wrong,pls take this into account.
Cheyenne Mountain Zoo!! That place is the best!
this mother is horrible..
I know right Poor Sawyer you are so nice and beautiful but isn’t a little mean too film someone sometimes kicking and screaming and pushing and throwing Sawyer I like it when you’re happy 😢
this is so beautiful i remember so many times as a kid having meltdowns and just getting yelled at wich only ever made it all worse im so thankful that people like you are showing children woth issues such as autism how to manage and regulate themselves in a positive and nurturing way
I don’t understand how these commenters don’t see that she didn’t actually film the meltdown. She showed the before and after, specifically to show the coping strategies used. It’s helpful for parents to see this
You're going to have your other kids hating him you keep doing that you keep interrupting their day because he melts down they're going to wind up hating him your best bet would have been to take the child that is acting out away and let the other kids stay with the other parent instead of making everybody leave
He needed a weighted blanket. I'm 63 it works for me to calm down with PTSD.
Stop exploiting your child! @thedadchallengepodcast #kidsarentcontent
wtf they are making edu content on autism
This is NOT educational content! This is child exploitation. There is no need to show your child in order to create educational content.
@@HckyFan0133pucklife are you on meth?
Wtf I’m confused…
Yeah I got really uncomfortable that she was actually showing a meltdown especially. I wouldn't consider being in that much emotional distress entertainment
Sometimes it sucks that sometimes you just have to remove yourselves and them from the area. They really wanted to be. Hopefully it helps theme from thinking about it and it helps him let go little bit definitely takes time.
I gotta admit as nice as this video was/seems it’s just not ok in general to put a kid that can’t fully acknowledge and consent to things like this in your videos… if you posted this after he was the age to actually consent to this and the others could then this would be ok but I’m gonna assume this was taken extremely recently therefore your child is not of age to fully consent to this being posted on the internet… now this is gonna be up forever for others to see and that includes his future friends, SO’s, family, bad ppl, and more… please don’t put ur children on the internet when they can’t consent to it I wouldn’t go posting my nieces face and stuff on the internet cuz she’s too young to consent and know the full extent of what she’s consenting to.
I really like that the other kids understand that they had to leave and werent screaming and crying around
Damn man of course his meltdown stop right whenever you guys are walking to the car about to leave just for him to stop crying you have a lot of patience and that’s why God gave you him but I just know that I would not😂
I see more normal children having meltdowns then I see autistic children. 😅
Probably because only about 2% of people are autistic
Autistic people are also normal
@@emilyhughes4297exactly 💀
So what happens when these children are adults?
They'll learn how to manage their autism a lot better. The learn exactly what they need in certain situations and they know exactly what to keep with them when going out. They'll know how to get themselves out of situations that make them feel uncomfortable or anxious.
How do you find employment where you don't have situations that make you feel anxious ever? @@dragonire_dino0856
@@gmfutubeThere’s no one answer to that. Some of us find jobs in places that specifically hire those with disabilities to help others with disabilities. Some of us work in places that provide accommodation.
@@gmfutubewell this is a disability so it's not that such a situation would never arrive but more that you're allowed special treatment to deal with it.
A simple one is being able to go home early to deal with it in a comfortable space.
I love the Cheyenne Mountain zoo but i swear it always triggers my autistic sister or my migraines!
As someone who has an autistic brother, I completely understand you want to have awareness to these kind of things and ways to explain how to deal with an autistic person or child when they're having a meltdown. I think it's needed nowadays, especially since there is a stigma going around for high functioning autistic people. Do I think you need to videotape your kids during one of these meltdowns I don't think so. We all know what's going on with Ruby Frankie right now and I don't want you someone who truly cares about their kids to be compared to someone like Ruby, Frankie or have kids that will be affected the same way Ruby Frankie's kids will be. There are ways to have awareness brought to a certain aspect of someone's life without filming them. I love what you are doing. I don't love how you're doing it.
That is not fair to the rest of the kids.
Well there's not really much they can do. The kids most likely understand very well that their brother needs extra attention and stuff like this will happen. And don't even try to say that they should leave the autistic kid with a babysitter while they go and have fun because would you like to be left out while your family goes off and has a great time without you?
@@dragonire_dino0856besides they said they would go back another day
@dragonire_dino0856 they literally said they promised the kids they would go again soon
You can make 1,000 promises but will they follow through? Probably not cause the kid is a hassle.
@@kristenthansfhziplt9willia323he's not a hassle just because he's autistic. it's not his fault that he had a meltdown.
Your other kids should not be punished for his behaviour
So what, you must be one of those people who have to film every thing that your kids do for “ oh you are so brave for dealing with that “ don’t film just focus on your kids and live in the moment
You can talk and educate without showing him.
I wish my parents were more accommodating for my sister when she had meltdowns when she was little - my brother is autistic and they do well with him, but with my sister I think they just didnt/still don't know what my sister has (probs a mix of ADHD and autism) and whenever we would go out anywhere she would end up screaming and crying and sometimes get physically aggressive with me (older sister) she's mellowed out a lot now as she's a teen but I just wish we knew more back then to help her :')
Sorry Sawyer had a meltdown, however you did look at what were the pluses of the day. They look to you to watch how you handle it. Your other son tried helping. Sawyer finally calmed down before the car ride home. Good job mom!!
I can feel your painI have autism
I'm glad you had a good time I'm sorry didn't end as well as you'd hoped I understand this I have two grandchildren with some days are amazing and some days are so so hard on the entire family ❤🙏
Love the honesty ❤
I feel bad for the other kids... the fact that another kid determines their day wether they stay or go. I bet he gets extra attention too which is understandable because he needs it. But I get the feeling that the kids dont get to be kids.
Change and expectations not being met are serious issues with my son.
I only have the one but after an overwhelming and good outing I ask what he loved writing it down next time we go to that place I call to check if I need to tell him of changes
Depressing that the poor other kids get no attention and are forced to end their fun day just because of his needs.
That's just not true
a. this is an extremely lacking in compassion take b. they got to go back again cause it ended early c. most of her other kids also have disabilities and they get the same treatment through their tough moments as well.
The kids get no attention because they're parents are too busy filming them instead of being in the moment.
@@ameliav6771 not true
@@alphasquadHenryfactual actually… the parents are abusive specifically the mother doesn’t matter how u put it it’s the fact that she puts her children on the internet but not only that but in vulnerable situations that in either way they CANNOT consent to- if they saved these videos and waited till the children were teens and old enough to make an informed decision and consent to it then sure posting this would be ok but that’s not the reality of the Situation at all… this is why family channels get a bad rep cuz good ones get beaten down by awful ones like these that exploit their children to promote their channels… guarantee when the kids get old enough they will either exploit and try to adopt (like another abusive family channel tried to do) or have another kid… these people are horrible and don’t deserve children at all.
Oh sweet Sawyer!
I was at the zoo yesterday and encountered another child who was sad about the carousel being gone …
I told her that they were off getting baths and new clothes (paint)
Your other kids are probably gonna resent him.
My autistic sister has meltdowns every time we go somewhere and she is non-verbal
I have autism. I'm not stupid, no one with autism is (in fact, some autistic people, including myself, have autistic savant syndrome, giving us genius level intellect). Because we are not stupid, your kid would have realised he was being filmed, which would have just made him feel worse.
While some autistic people have exceptional cognitive abilities, others may have intellectual disabilities. According to a study published in the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, about 40% of autistic people have an intellectual disability, while the rest have average or above-average intelligence. So a good percentage of those with autism may be “stupid” (as you so crudely put it)
My parents: ok I just paid like 300 quid for this trip for all of us so u and daddy are gonna have to wait in the car. Ok. OK.
Thank you for at least trying to help him , I grew up in a home with a severely autistic little brother and whenever he had a meltdown , we had to leave mediately , you are doing so great with raising him!
I feel sorry for the other kids. They don’t get any of your attention.
Hey!!!!! Don’t be mean be nice the reason why Sawyer was angry is because you were filming him please be nice
Sawyer you are a nice little guy and I like it when you happy and silly but not when you’re sad poor baby
I feel bad for the other kids. Maybe leave him home sometimes. Everyone so worried about the child with special needs that the others get the short end alot of times. If he can’t go out for a few hours without ruining the trip for the others then he can skip it every once in a while.
Sudden change can cause disappointment which is hard to handle for some people.
Wait is that in Colorado Springs I was just there today
All these sudden child health concerns only after ruby goes to jail.
Reminder that children safety is constantly at risk on the internet and don’t stop advocating even after the frankes are off the news and mainstream
As an autistic adult, I completely understand what this is like. I recently had a meltdown at the zoo (which is my favorite place) because the petting zoo was closed. It didn't have anything to do with who I was with or where I was at, I was just upset that the thing I was looking forward to most wasn't there.
If u want him to feel better by giving love and squeezing don’t put the camera 📷 in front of him
When it’s a kid up to 5 or 6 it’s just a regular neurotypical 5 year old tantrum
I bet the other siblings are upset for having to leave early
I feel so bad for the kids having to be filmed constantly
My kid would be upset if he was looking forward to being on it and it being gone too,autism or not the disappointment was real❤
Ik that zoo i live 20 minutes away from it
I luv how you guys are always so positive, such amazing parents🥰
Im the 1k like lol also ur an amazing mom
You probably should remove your “like” considering this channel exploits their children
I think instead of snacks you should have had sandwiches, sugary snacks can lead to meltdowns
I'm sorry but what dose it mean to elope?
Escape, run away
It basically means that they run away from where they are supposed to be. At my special needs church ministry we call his that like to elope "runners".
@@keyofb3528yea but not normally intentional, mind is busy and you end up wandering
@@AddyKay thanks!
I have ASD myself, so i know well what meltdowns can do, i tend to start moving to get out of said situation, to find what is missing etc etc, most likely thats what is going through his head.
@@gymnsical
Leave him home for the other children’s sake