Nonbenders Deserve Better and Amon was Right about Benders in Avatar!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Nonbenders deserve way more respect! Amon, despite bending the truth, was right all along...
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Sokka is an icon for all non-benders. He held his own and remained significant in a war torn world while surrounded by the greatest benders during his time.
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Facts. hate how they didn't give him a honorable death
Yeah. Remember in the finale when he took out two comet boosted firebenders with a boomerang and a sword? With a broken leg? Lying down? While holding onto Toph?
I would put Ty Lee as an icon too
Karl Wilker eh they were comet boosted but that really didint do anything
Amon is definitely the best and ofc he was right but I don’t think everyone should be ripped of their bending
@Rad Raspberry Razmin Fox non benders didn't represent republic city, Republic city represented a city where anybody can live, anywhere out of the four nation's, even non benders
@@uncleiroh.6600 I think he meant by having a non bending president and work force etc
And then it’s the world we live now and it’s suck
@@exlorddeath7359 oh, ok
Those who abuse their power should be "equalized". It's like Aang energybending Firelord Ozai and crime lord Yakone. When Republic City leaders and officials are abusing their powers, there needs to be an equalizer; otherwise, people are going to continue being oppressed
I dont understand why everyone thinks that amon being a bender lessens the point. I think it was because of his back story, you understand why he does the things he does. His father was a powerfull bender, a crual one. And he saw trough his father that benders are too powerfull and have to be stopped, even if he is one himself.
Amon being a Bender actually makes him a stronger villain, because it mirrors the hypocrisy of real world tyrants and dictators who rise to power by claiming they wish to help the poor but they end up only exploiting them.
It makes him a weaker villain because this mirrors (and makes true) the charge that gets thrown at equal rights groups all the time is that they are being manipulated by an outside group or force and that they'd be content without that agitation. That this is illogical, as an outside group wouldn't have things to use to manipulate if there wasn't an actual problem doesn't matter. This kind of thing says to the oppressing group that they don't need to listen to anyone because the leader being a bender and a fraud makes them easy to delegitimize. It says non-benders can't be trusted to be accurate recounters of their own experience. During the 60s one of the charges leveled against Black civil rights activists was that the whole thing was a Commie plot.
@@Arohan71 You can be a bender and still think no one should be that privileged.He wasn't incapacitated, he ran away to start a new life. He just went too far and didn't realise until the last scene. Maybe it doesn't make him a stronger ''villain'' or ''right''' but,it made the situation understandable at least. Even if it failed I'm so impressed by the concept.
@@formidit_-3586 the problem is that too ends up delegitimizing the very real issue. There was a way to do Amon as a Bender supporter of equality without making him a leader manipulating the non-benders for his own ends. Again, it robs the oppressed of their agency.
@@Arohan71 Well it was the point making him a leader manipulating the non-benders? If he was not a waterbender and if he died he would be martyr and there would be literally war between benders and non benders. They had to delegetimize him one way or another so they chose to prove him wrong in this way but explained with a great backstory.
Honestly, if they want to make a new series that ISN'T about the Avatar, I'd rather make it about a non bender. You know what's cooler than being a dude who can form canyons, cause tsunamis, create typhoons and summon lightning?
The dude who can outsmart, outfight or outmaneuver the dude who can form canyons, cause tsunamis, create typhoons and summon lightning.
i like the idea of someone pretending to be the avatar and fake bending or using 1 element and finding a work around.
To be fare that’s something i’ve always disliked about the series, they tend to make benders, for lack of a better word, dumb just so that non-benders can have something for themselves, in reality there’s nothing stopping a bender from being just as, if not more intelligent then a non-bender
@@skelitonking117 well there's time spent to train in the element, different focus/strengths.
@@skelitonking117 they don't need to rely on intelligence like nonbenders do.Go read Unordinary bcz it has a similar circumstance
For the next series they should make an OP avatar master of all the elements even the advanced ones they need to go all the way with the bending at this point its only right
I really wished that they kept the Non bender conflict throughout Korra that would have been cool if there could be a solution for Korra and friends to somehow figure out.
Imo they did to an extent. Symbolized by how the Avatar(in general)was viewed in a negative or indifferent light. Considering how large each villains following became and how often Reiko, a non bending president, would deflect blame from himself and direct it towards Korra(using the discontentto his advantage). Whenever he was faced with those questioning his acumen.
@@jonathanjohnson6727 I'm salty that they never followed through with a civil war between the north and southern water tribe though in book 2 I get they never really incorporated that well with argument of being respectful toward the spirits.
@@mastercontrO I agree with that. It would've been great to have the civil wars cause be tied to harmonic convergence. Which by extension would make the reason waterbending Avatars struggle/misunderstood nature more apparent as they'd be the source of why the Avatar needs to exist in the first place. Showing greater depth to the water tribes and why they're located closest to the spirit portals of all nations(this would mean Wan would've been a Waterbending Avatar instead of firebender)
@@mastercontrO Yeah, they had really good setup for that and they just shifted focus away completely
abdul doumbia
Honestly when you think about it fixing the inequality between non-Benders and Benders feels low-key kind of impossible without wiping out bending all together
Amon was such a great villain. He was menacing, charismatic, intelligent and complex. He saw his bloodbending as an necessary evil, genuinely believed in his cause, and knew who to go after to garner and maintain a following. And Tarrlok’s actions vindicated his point and gave him ammo. And all the other villains are so well-written that they work, which helps with each book having its own overarching antagonist, instead of a series-wide villain. And him lacking a face until he’s revealed to be Tarrlok’s long-lost brother really makes him scary. And how did Sokka die?
It's just communism sprinkled with fancy words to captivate the audience, nothing more
Sokka died of old age I think
@@legojarjarbinks2564 wow and Ozai is just a dumb person who wants to set the world on fire then
@@manuba_ Yep
@@manuba_ exactly. A delusional bastard who saw his accomplishments as nothing but glorious. But the thing is,Ozai's character wasn't supposed to be deep and convoluted. He was a "final boss" of a "campaign". The focus wasn't on the main villain,it was on the war and the effects it had on our protagonists and the people around them. It was never about "Aang Vs Ozai 1v1 no items final destination",it was about the journey it took to reach this final fight. LoK purely focuses on a bunch of extremist jackasses who oppress their half-baked ideologies on other people, that's it
*Unpopular Opinion:*
Amon should have been the Final Enemy that Korra would face against
I agree. Amon was a perfect villain to counter Korra brat attitude. Shown her that raw power alone isn't enough to change the world. Force Korra to change her attitude and understand what it means to be Avatar rather than being the most powerful.
Technically, he was meant to be the main, final villain bc they only greenlit one season at first. That's why the setup is quite different from ATLA
I agree
exactly I think that season one should have ended like this. Amon being arrested, and we see an explosion. The statue Aang exploded, and we cut to the fire nation palace explode, and across the nations chaos, none bender riots. Amon laughing, and telling Korra. "You think This just a fist fight that winning will erase the anger of my brothers and sisters? I gave the equalists a voice, and now they shout loud and clear that they had had enough." We see benders being overpowered by non benders. "The war is not yet over, and you will lose"
But this time!... he actually has a scar on his face lol
The "you're our Avatar too" line always struck me. I've always been disappointed that there wasn't more on that.
Imagine how depressing it would be if EVERYONE AROUND YOU was a bender and you just... *blegh.*
Not so much if you're Ty Lee, Suki, Asami, Sokka, Mai, Jet etc.
But everyone isn’t. They are a minority. We already have people in this world, that are so much better than you and me, in so many different ways. Geniuses. Elite athletes . Just two examples.
The conflict in Korra season one was really engaging and interesting. I'm honestly shocked that the Eaqualist movement just ended once Amon was outed. Sure, their leader was a fraud, but those people all really believed in their cause, not just actual members of the organisation, but the common people were inspired by it as well.
Maybe the president really had more of an effect than I realise.
In the Korra game, the combatants of the eaqualist are either arrested or became criminals and scattered, while the civilians accepted Raiko.
Raiko isn't even well liked. He is well exactly what you would expect from your typical politician. President Moon is so much better and always puts the needs of the people first over winning a popularity contest
I honestly enjoyed Book One of TLOK. Amon was a great villain and tbh if I was in the show I woulda been pretty pissed if I wasn’t a bender, cause I probably wouldn’t be able to defend myself against evil benders 😭 Anyways nice video Slice!! Again I’m so glad you’re back
Sokka, Suki, Hakoda, Asami, Jet, Freedom Fighters, Zaheer(pre-Harmonic Convergence): *Pathetic*
Poseidon Z yea but you understand that all of those examples were just for the sake fo story, you know damn well a non-bender would be insignificant compared to a bender. It wouldn’t just be a pretty show with zero impact like it is in Avatar, an Airbender would outright kill practically anything that stepped to them
@@skelitonking117 it DOES seem that ppl in that world are more durable and stronger in general
Sorry, even if youre a bender, you need to train so i doubt that even if you were a bender you wouldnt be any better
@@skelitonking117 a bender is as vulnerable as any other human being, the fact that you think of then as some kind of demigods that can only be killed by other bender it shows you dind see the first season of Korra
I’m not gonna lie I never realized that Mai and Ty Lee never bended fire once lmao. I guess they were so proficient as non-benders that it tricked my brain into thinking they were benders.
Me too tho
The fact that he came back just a week ago and already made 2 videos..
_My satisfaction is immeasurable and my day is made_
Zuko is better at sword fighting and stealth then bending
That´s why I wish he was a non bender and aang found another fire bender maybe one of the kids at the school.
Keep in mind he learned from the dragons
@@jeremiahalexander250 nah I think it’s better that he wasn’t a non bender as it strengthened as he didn’t relay on natural talent
Ozai would kill him if he turned out to be a non bender lmao.
Yup
I think amon was doing the right thing, just in the wrong way, he hated ALL benders, he would have taken away Tenzins bending, when he did nothing wrong
Kind of like Jet, who hated the fire nation so much that he was going to kill civilians, who did nothing wrong.
Benders are like a hereditary aristocracy. They have power and social influence solely because of the way they were born. The bending minority is predestined to always remain the global ruling class, not by virtue or merit, but by genetics alone.
Even though most benders as individuals have probably never done anything wrong, you could make the argument that taking the bending away from everyone, even the good ones, is a necessity to abolish this fundamentally unjust system.
Well in atla there was never really any strife among benders and non-benders and we’re on equal footing in fact many people in powerful positions were non benders Arnook, toph’s parents, and kuei it seems like bending inequality was mainly just a problem in the united republic
@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus sounds like an envy issue
@@sammyfield5426 I would even argue that being able to bend in atla could be "mocked" at by non benders as weve seen charcters like sokka and mai belittle it because they dont believe in it in a similar way as atheists mocking religious believers.
Pretty sure prior to the Fire Nation invasion. That Benders were the majority. We know the Fire Nation had a grand amount of benders. And many Northern Water Tribe have some link to bending. At least that's how it looks to me. We see this in book one of Atla and book 2 Lok with many Water Bender soldiers.
Pretty sure the Earth Kingdom has the biggest population of non benders. Although, with that thought process. The kingdom's vast territory shows that they have the biggest population of the world. So, yeah I could see that benders are the minority. Still, seems like a lot of Benders in the world.
A video by Hello Future Me talked about this and one of the possibilities for the low number of Earthbenders is that earth is the least spiritual of the four elements, being the opposite of Air which is highly spiritual.
EDIT: Also (and this may just be my opinion) the Air nomads most likely didn't have 100% Airbenders, just a majority maybe in the 70-85% range give or take. There might've even been masters on the council that had no bending at all.
@Rad Raspberry Razmin Fox a fair point. But, I would counter with the existence of Sky bisons. Beings able to fly and carry a dozen people no problem(provided that they get enough sleep). As for Kiyoshi's Mother... I haven't read that book so I dont have an argument for that.
EDIT: also there are long narrow paths leading up to the Temples too.
@@garrisonmoncher5461 It's stated that all air nomads are airbenders (100%) due to their strong spiritual link. Even Kiyoshi's mother, when she gave up her air nomad lifestyle, was still able to retain her airbending, it was just weaker. After turning into a criminal, Kiyoshi's mother used fans to augment her airbending abilities. You can find the information from the official ATLA youtube channel. The video is titled "The Complete History of Airbending in Avatar! | ATLA."
Because of capitalism, the ones in charge would probably rather hire a bender than a nonbender because you can pay the minimum to a bender and they can do much more even with simple bending.
Nonbenders would probably be the majority of the unemployed as not everyone has the patience to study their minds
@@williamvu4324 Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't know about that video. However, I still believe that having non-benders in an mostly bending society can bring more story telling potential than just having 100%of an culture being Airbenders. But that's just my own opinion.
Me: *sees title*
Me: Well, yeah. Thats what makes him a great... anti-villain? Villain?
Visionary that the word your looking for.
antagonist maybe
Misunderstood lol
@@Lee-nm9tf
Maybe, and also, he would be a protagonist.
He's the protagonist of his (group's) story. To them, the benders were never *not* the antagonists. 🤷♀️
@@MegaKhelditia Ooo true whoever the antagonist is is simply determined by perspective
Say Amon was genuine, there would still be a power problem that he or someone like him would have to face. If his story was about a spirit giving him the ability to take bending were true, what would stop someonelse from getting a power from a spirt to gain a power to do something to him, like taking away his abilities. Amon's goal for equlity would be harder because there are two things he can't stop: the spirits and technology. Bending being gone would leave big vaccum in the world that he doesn't realize could throw the world into chaos; the infrastructures that depen on bending would be destroyed and hard to handle and spirits that hated human and didn't want to leave the forest would use this opportunity to take back the world form humans.
Lastly, how do we know that all the enemies in the past life of avatars wern't non benders? For all we know someone like Amon, before we learned he was a waterbender, could have risen up to power for very similar reasons or just becase that person power hungry.
A video dedicated to non-benders and Suki isn't even mentioned?
My girl just can't get any respect.
You mean he ignore Asami Sato and her close friendship with Korra that slowly develop into true romantic relationship?
Maybe because that would destroy his argument that Korra couldn't truly associate with non-benders?
Fun fact: If we disregard the fact that she learned how to air bend a few moments after, Korra was the only avatar to be a non bender for a moment
No, that title goes to Wan. He was born a non-bender and later became a bender.
@@controlman7490 Korra still had Raava inside her while wan didn't. Every other avatar was an avatar for their whole lives besides wan and Korra
@@LightOwl-o8o That's irrelevant and doesn't disprove what I said.
@@controlman7490 I mean it kinda does though. Wan wasn't the Avatar while he wasn't a bender. More correctly Wan was the first and only Avatar to not be born an Avatar
@@matheussandbakk9959Actually, no you're wrong because Korra wasn't an avatar when she was a non-bender after her fight with Unalaq and she could still bend all 4 elements. And when she lost her bending to Amon she was still the avatar, but only lost 3 elements and retained air bending, so you and OP are both incorrect. However, I was also wrong because Wan wasn't an avatar while he was a non-bender, so we were all erroneous.
I predicted that Amon would be a compelling antagonist and that none benders would be "Energy Benders" and boy was I wrong
would have been cooler tho
That would've been so cool.
Interesting thought there.
I am still hoping for that we know that the people learned the kowledge to bend from lion turtles but I imagine conventional chi manipulation existed before bending to heal or augment th ebody to superhuman levels or sharpen the senses how cool would it be if energy bending is usable for all people it's just that element benders extend it to their element. Fire bending is the closest to energy bending for sure.
Your outro has me literally tearing up. Though I never comment on your vids- I didn’t realize til now just how much I missed them and your signature outro that I always wait to hear. Welcome back 😊
"I....Am the solution." Amon
Not yet.
Welcome back, Slice! 💛
Airbending SLIIICEEE! Sorry, wrong slice
Damn it's just like what Toffee was doing in SVTFOE he wasn't specifically trying to kill the matriarch/monarch but the power they held could more dangerous than themselves
no star just became a racist
in last air benders, the Air nomads were obviously parallel to Tibet and the Dalai lama, the earth nation to China, the Fire Nation to Imperial Japan. I'm not sure who/if/what the Water tribes parallels.
I would say a majority of characters were benders, because bending is fun and interesting and a central mechanic of the world building and story telling.
xanuui the waterbenders were inspired by Native Americans that lived in Alaska(I forgot their name)
@@coolchristiangirl190 inuit
The short season meant it never really gave this issue the depth it should have. As it is, I didn't find the Equalists very sympathetic. Amon had a backstory that gave an interesting bit of depth to him as a bender who hated bending since it ruined his life.
The problem with the rest of the season is that the most we hear about non benders being oppressed is them being killed by criminals. That's it. As things were, the non benders felt more like they were the oppressors. Not helped by the fact they were getting their weapons thank to Hiroshi Sato, a wealthy businessman. A wealthy businessman who was going to still be rich after the revolution. Not saying he was in it for money, but I am saying the Equalists aren't really evening the playing field if they are letting the rich non benders stay rich. You get of the bending in Bai Sing Se, the city is still going to be just as plagued by inequality as it was before.
Not to mention we saw Korra stand up for non benders, and the Equalists still treated her as an oppressor. That is really a moment to me where the Equalists felt like they were just more oppressors. If all the Equalists wanted was to overthrow the government that was oppressing them, that would be one thing. But they targeted all benders as "oppressors" regardless of what they were actually doing. We saw Korra actually stand up for benders being oppressed by the government. Do the Equalists care? Of course not, they feel that she still deserved to, essentially be raped. Along with Tenzin's children. I am not trying to use an shocking language, Amon's use of blood bending was a clear rape allegory.
This.
Also, Equalists are obviously non-benders supremacists. You know, fascists. The way how they talk about benders isn't much different than how fascists talk about Jewish people, especially how they want to clean them from their "impurities"
Imagine calling someone like Hiroshi Sato, who is a successful bourgeois a communist?
Oh wait, they completely ignore him... I wonder why? Because their nonsensical political analysis will collapse into nothing.
Or calling Mako and Bolin, poor benders that barely made ends meet an oppressors.
Every villain in TLOK is some form of fascism: non-benders supremacists, clero-fascism, anarcho-primitivism, Nazism.
Having your Chi Blocked isn't a metaphor or allegory for Rape, this is a disgusting comparison.
Go read all of communist history and get back to me being unreasonable and not actually fixing the problems is the msot realistic part. First and most important truth for any egalitarian movement to grapple with is thst hierarchy can not be flattened only reorginized the very attempt to flatten it will make a new hierarchy. The second most import truth is that scarcity and the profit motive are not created by capitalism they are inherent to realitty and any semi sapient species to the point we have even created market systems between monkeys and dolphins through providing the right incentives such as male monkeys learning they can pay female monkeys to mate in exchange for rations for their daily rations.
@@wingsoffreedom3589 I'm lost on what you are trying to tell me.
@@dragonstormx wasn't responding to you there was another guy who's comment got deleted
This is kind of the major problem with the 1st season with Korra. Nothing is done to tackle the inequalities caused by bending. Korra losing her bending was a great way for her to actually learn what non-benders go through.
Benders have access to a broader range of economic opportunities as they can do the jobs any non-bender can do and access to jobs only benders can do. Not to mention culture in the Avatar world is based heavily around bending especially in the Fire Nation where the Fire Nation Royal Family practices selective breeding to ensure a strong line of firebenders.
Except something was done. After Book 1, nonbenders were allowed to participate in politics and therefore finally had a voice.
Also, Korra never became a nonbender. Even if she did, that would be a bad thing because then she can't be the Avatar. And the events of Book 1 prove that the world clearly needs the Avatar's guidance.
@@vetarlittorf1807
Nothing was done. The presidency does not solve anything. How does the presidency fix the socioeconomic inequalities created by bending? You do know benders themselves can run for president?
Black Americans for example have had the ability to vote and have held political offices for well over a century but that hasnt done anything to fix the racial wealth gap among many other things.
I never said Korra became a nonbender. I said I would have liked it if she lost all her bending so she would learn what nonbenders feel so she could effectively help them. I also never said the world doesn't need the Avatar's guidance.
In my opinion it doesn't. Why should 1 person be entrusted to guide the world?
Humans in the Avatar world act just like their real life counterparts. There is no reason why they can't deal with their own problems.
@@GreatUniter Having a nonbender president means nonbenders are no longer second class citizens as their voices are now heard by society. Society stopped being biased towards benders.
I wish they knew they were getting more than one season to make the non-bender theme a recurring one. It would have made so much more sense for Korra to not haver her bending for most of season 2 and tapping into her spiritual side would have brought it back. That way we could have had her experience and struggle through life as a non-bender for more than just an episode. Would have been super interesting for sure (and maybe a parallel of the north vs south and bender vs nonbender.)
@@EET321 Except she never became a nonbender and nonbenders aren't struggling to gain bending. Also, in case you didn't notice, Korra was going to commit suicide before Aang saved her.
Did Amon actually hold beliefs that things should be equalized between benders and non-benders because I thought it was just bull he was spouting for power
He genuinely believed his own words. He cared about equality for all.
A little bit of both. Amon was mostly trying to bring down the Avatar in a twisted way of besting his father/accomplishing what he set out to do, but I think there was SOME element of truth to it. But he was, at the end of the day, a fraud manipulating people for his own ends.
Amon truly believed in equality, though he lied about his backstretch, a firebender burning his face off and killing his loved ones, he didn't lie about bending ruining his family. The moment Yakone learned that his children could bend, their lives took a turn for the worse, resulting in his family falling apart
Yakone teached Noatak to hate the world, however he cared way more about equality then power and thought bending is the biggest problem of all
@@vetarlittorf1807which is stupid
Recommendation for next Avatar Series:
1. Next Avatar is a Twin earthbenders - one has Rava's spirit and the other one is only an ordinary earthbender but will later on gibe birth to Vaatu. Since light and dark cannot exist without each other.
2. Another fun plot to the incoming series is that there will be war for benders vs non benders and the conclusion will be separation of spirit world and human world and bending will be taken back thru the avatar and human world will all be non benders.
Aeron John Bernabe but what would the story be? Is there really anything else that this universe can tell? I feel like the series tackled a lot already. I’m not sure where they would go. Doing another Rava and Vaatu story feels like a cop out since it’s been done in kora already. I like the premise of the avatar though!
The second one is literally the ending of Star vs the Forces of Evil
I have an idea what if being a twin allows for the non avatar child a rare mutation allowing him or her to bender 2 elements instead of 1? I have wanted duel benders for so long and non benders using chi like iron fist to give themselves superhuman physiques and punch through rock with glowing fists.
Amon was my favorite villian until I found out he was a blood bender. Because let face it bender can totally kill a non bender if they wanted too. I would have love the idea of Asumi creating some kind of weapon that prevents non benders from being hurt by benders only for korra to get upset she ruining the balance of the world
And it would make literally no sense
You mean the mech suits
@@travisprescott9708 Something more subtle that can be carried with you. Maybe like a Bending Disruptor you attach to benders arm so they cant bend or maybe a smaller suit that keep people from being harmed by benders.
Actually, even when Zaheer was a non bender he could go up against basically any bender
But a bending disruptor would bring up a slew of human rights issues. Benders would essentially be forced to wear shock collars for just exisiting. A non-bender could easily just disrupt a bender's abilities because they didn't like that person and cry wolf that the bender was hurting them. It would actually create a stigma against bending and benders. It would then lead to systemic discrimination.
Giving non-benders an equal hand to benders is a great idea, but giving the control over benders a disruptor would provide to non-benders isn't the best idea. I could only see human rights violations occurring with that one.
Amon: Equality
Unalaq: Harmony
Zaheer: Anarchy
Kuvira: Unity
I thought zahreer was more about freedom.
@@aceclop I suppose Anarchy being a rejection of government heavily correlates to freedom.
@@jodyrappin
True, I just feel like anarchy has a negative connotation.
Actually it was:
Amon and Equalists: non-benders supremacists
Unalaq: clero-fascism
Red Lotus: anarcho-primitivism
Kuvira: Nazism
TLOK or Avatar vs fascist movements...
No, amon communism
Amon: SCREW BENDERS!
Also amon: *im a waterbender!*
I mean... my memories of season 1's specifics are a touch hazy, but... was Amon lying about his intentions? He certainly had the background to develop a hatred for Bending, namely with Yakone. And sure, his revolution wouldn't exactly last, even ignoring the military aspect, as we know that people who've had their Bending removed can still have Bender children, Noatak and Tarrlok being prime examples of the fact, so benders would eventually pop up, even in the unlikely scenario of the Equalists winning against the other nations.
No He Really Did Believe In Equality
O wow i never thought of the fact that there would be still benders bearing born
Love that you’re back bro
THE BOULDER AGREES WITH AMON BUT THE BOULDER THINKS HE TOOK IT TOO FAR!
NGL, they really didn’t prove Amon wrong in the show. Dude had a strong af case
The proof that Amon was wrong was in the world building.
xanuui
If you say so
@@xanuui how
@@xanuui how?
I was actually hoping Korra and her gang would go against the benders because she'd learn to actually protect the people who need to be protected but no, she really didn't learn much or even try to see Amon's cause as good, i think only when Toph outright told her that Amon was fighting for a good cause in the weong way, did she realise that equality is important, i was quite disappointed that the situation was just ignored after amon was exposed because it was a really strong story
He might've had a point, but ripping bending away is definitely not an answer.
🔴no, communism for life!!!🔴
Im just joking
Amon was a charismatic and competent villain that deserved more screen time.
If the show were rewritten I think he'd serve better as a season 3 main villain, and dealing with his aftermath in season 2. Ultimately, season 1 would be given to Zaheer and his plots. Give more time to flesh out the backstory of the Red Lotus and their separation from the White Lotus. Heavier flashbacks to adult Gaang fighting them and solidifying Republic City as a nation. Keep his murder of the Earth Queen and attempt on Korra. She has the largest character growth after this event.
Sets up for Kuvira imperial power grab (take out the mech though). Follow a story path in general and resolution.
Then boom, in comes Amon with harder evidence of benders being bad. The reveal of being a water bender can remain, but that leaves season 4 to deal with the aftermath and how Korra fully learns to be the Avatar of everybody. Very general rewrite does leave out key events but would possibly make the story flow better with existing events
That's a great idea.. Hope they just rewrite it someday 🧐
@@kati192 There's a lot of good story points that I'd keep because the show had so much great potential. But how I see it, it's a little disjointed. I'd also do a rewrite to the Avatar Wan origin; keep it mostly intact but lengthen it and change the dynamic of Raava and Vaatu.
Im so excited you’re making videos again! Ive missed your videos so much. Slice is back baby!
The problem that I have with this argument is that it ignores one of the comics that actually bring up this very thing. Don’t know the name of the comic but it talks about how with the rise of the industrial period it made nonbenders more equal in the fact that the cultural importance of benders wasn’t as important. This made Katara wary of it because she was noticing the cultural change of her people while she wanted things to stay the same. They even go on to say that it’s because she is a bender and therefore had more cultural importance is the reason she doesn’t like it and to look at it form their perspective.
In other words, the center of power in benders was already changing. He see this with Asami’s dad, a non bender rising to great wealth with the rise of industry.
Amon always kinda struck a note with me, like even as a 13 year old when Amon got caught I was like.... but these people are literally second class citizens in society and they still are, just because he was evil doesn’t mean the people who followed him were wrong. They’re just hurt and angry that they have no control over basically anything when it comes to physicality.
Amon, to me, was easily one of the most terrifying antagonists I've seen especially in animation. Part of what makes him so scary is how real his cause is, how understandable his cause is....the idea of him stealing bending and seeing the benders look so soulless after...and Korra's absolute fear of him was so real and understandable. I feel like I was really able to connect with being so paralyzed by fear of failure. I loved this series and the conflicting emotions Amon brings into the series!
Thank you for this video! I loved this one so much!
I wouldn’t say the avatar is privileged in fact there life is drafted out for them when they are born. They don’t get to use there bending freely and they are controlled by all of society. As we see in Aangs case an entire country sought to take him down as well as section in the show as the earth kingdom trying to abuse his power.
The avatar is there to bring balance between all life, they can’t be biased and have to see what it’s like in their own eyes hence the need for always having a powerless main character in the avatars team. This way they can see the affect non benders have on the world. You may say it’s the story but I’m the avatars case making friends tends to be fate.
Yeah, Roku based on what we know and Kuruk to an extend are probably privileged, but Kyoshi, Aang and Korra, their experiences are not exactly what we call privileged.
That's just saying "Oh no the all powerful super celebrity hero doesn't get to live a normal life".
Meanwhile Aang still had a wife and kids and actually had it all if you think about it. Bending in general is just a free pass at life most of the time. Obviously you have to work for it through training but there's not that many downsides unless you were an air nomad since all of them were benders and they just did whatever they wanted in peace.
Asami was closest Korra’s friend and they even end in romantic relationship. Korra never thought about herself as better than non-benders.
@@hughmungus99that’s insanely ignorant and moronic. Celebs have a CHOICE. They CHOSE that life. Avatars are forced into it. Literally born into it. I can’t believe you even made such a comparison. Just wow
@@hughmungus99and aang only had that life, (you know. Besides dying at 60 years old because of his powers….). Because he WON. He won and managed not to die. And then had to spend decades still fixing the world. Until finally, he was able to have a good life. Until he died….
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A non bender video is super logical yet I didn't even think of it.
Seems like a perfect example
Love everything you do man. Just wondering if there are any details that where uncovered about "Koh The Face Stealer" he said he would see Aang again and never did
Maybe he was speaking in a spiritual manner. Not Aang specifically, just the avatar
@@Spyke7ful but I'm curious about how their energies meet to begin with. He could have been a great character in the long run. He's got the Diobolical Vibe, he's sneaky smart, the voice and of course the look. Just somewhat disappointed that's all
@@isaiahsingleton6283 I don't blame you, I was expecting Korra to meet him to be honest. But the way they wrote that show, they couldn't really plan for much
It's been a long time since I've watched you and when you did your intro I got chills❤
As much as I would love to see non benders like Mai, Suki, Ty lee and Sokka be benders I think them being non benders and keeping up with everyone who was a bender, set the groundwork for non bending civilians on how to educate themselves in combating benders. Putting chi blocking and other tech into practice would let them have some semblance of an upper hand over the benders
Devin Tucker it existed but wasn’t widespread until the end of TLA
really wish he came back... not to mention it was Steve Blum voicing him smh he's a legend
I remember in Korra how non Benders did actually make up the upper class, with Benders working jobs like power plants and even Pro benders getting scammed out of their money by their non Bender bosses.
Exactly.
Equalists are obviously non-benders supremacists. You know, fascists. The way how they talk about benders isn't much different than how fascists talk about Jewish people, especially how they want to clean them from their "impurities"
Imagine calling someone like Hiroshi Sato, who is a successful bourgeois a communist?
Oh wait, they completely ignore him... I wonder why? Because their nonsensical political analysis will collapse into nothing.
Or calling Mako and Bolin, poor benders that barely made ends meet an oppressors.
Every villain in TLOK is some form of fascism: non-benders supremacists, clero-fascism, anarcho-primitivism, Nazism.
Keep em coming
Love the work
I think the addition of non benders was genius! It allowed for me to be able to relate more to and engage more with this fictitious world while still being able to embrace the more fantastical elements of bending and engage in escapism. Thats why I think Sokka is so much more relatable and engaging.
Thank you. I’ve been saying this for time
I love the way homeboy speaks he could be like tomorrow is *pause* THURSDAY and it could sound cool
I didn't say it before, because your comeback was so good, but GOD I HAVE MISSED YOUR VIDEOS.
Great topic!
finally some sokka appreciation. he was the core of the gaang
I'd like to see a video on the positive applications of blood bending and how katara was short-sighted in completely branding it forbidden. I mean just amon removing bending alone is a huge deal as they could have stopped bending criminals like the gangs in republic city but there's a lot of medical aspects that could have made her a even greater healer.
Blocking bending, not removing.
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great video man
Amon should’ve been a non bender, that’s what this series really needs, a non bender human so good they can go up against the avatar,
Like Superman vs Batman
@@Raccon_Detective.lol so as long as the bender is unwilling to actually use his powers, then the non bender should be just fine. Because let’s remember, Superman could have flicked Batman into space. Or spit a bb from space, through his brain. Or did literally any number of 1000 things, never needing to be anywhere near Batman
The real balance in the Avatar world is really not just about the four nations and the benders, but for all. The real balance in the Avatar world is better portrayed by the team Avatars and their allies in the two animated series or seasons, and they all act as a collective icon, role model, and symbol for their world balance.
Aang = airbender, Avatar
Katara = waterbender
Zuko = firebender
Toph = earthbender
Sokka = non-bender
Suki = non-bender
Hakoda = non-bender
Pakku = waterbender
Iroh = firebender
Jong jong = firebender
Piandao = non-bender
Freedom Fighters = non-benders
Kioshi Warriors = non-benders
Haru and his dad = earthbenders
Members of the Foggy Swamp Tribe = waterbenders
Uncle Tio and his son = non-benders
Other allies and warriors = benders and non-benders
Korra = waterbender, Avatar
Mako = firebender
Bolin = earthbender
Asami = non-bender
Tenzin = airbender
Lin Beifong = earthbender
Suyin Beifong and her family = earthbender
Kaya = waterbender
Bumi = non-bender, later an airbender
Opal = non-bender, later an airbender
Kai = non-bender, later an airbender
Asami's dad = non-bender, first an enemy then later an ally
Other allies and warriors = benders and non-benders
...also, in both animated series or seasons, there's always a non-bender member in the core Team Avatar. Sokka for Aang, and Asami for Korra.
(Note: Sorry for butchering the spelling of the characters' names, and for forgetting some of their names and other characters.)
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I remember when he used to make Steven videos lol always gonna watch ur vids dude
Can you do a "what if" video. One that Amon was truly granted the power of taking bending away and him being a true non-bender?
You know a series is good when the villain is right
Nice to see people are still talking about this years later, by far my favorite character in the whole show
Loved the video.
12:17 what weapons and fighting styles would you like to see in avatar to make nonebender fights more fun? Even amongst the benders how would you use to spice thing up and if there were more bending sub types what would they be ? . What would a bending counter part to the moon and star primal sources look like ?
Avatar fandom is still alive and we need The legend of Genji!
YO im so glad you're back dude i love your videos. Please do as video on zaheer and his ideology. I personally believe he made since in his work but he just took it too far but he did make alot of sense. But anyway id like a video to see your opinion on it. Have a good and keep making these awesome videos
YES! I'm so glad this exists--i just started watching korra after finishing atla this week (im on ep 8 rn), and when amon started his preaching thing like 'we must ensure equality' i was like...uh....y..yes?? that makes...good??
I love your thumbnails how do you make them like that
Nice video! I always wished they had stuck to Amon being a non-bender. It would've been way more interesting for a hot headed character like Korra to to learn to solve her problems by nonviolence sorta like Aang always did.
I hate that that conflict went away so...quickly. And without consequence. In the same episode everyone got their bending back , and they were like...haha he's dead now cool we can never speak of it again.
Man, it's been awhile, like almost a year since I last watched your vids. But I still like your content, keep up the good work!
I love amon he is my favorite villain 🤣
The premise of season 1 was truly interesting. I just hoped they fleshed out the story more -- like giving it another season.
9:20 Hate to break it to you, but his granddaughter Jinora broke that record at age 11.
Welcome back!!!
The Amon twist-resolution was such a letdown. The cause was so important and compelling, but they ended it with a cop-out
Yeah i kinda hate that they made him an waterbender at the end. After that everything he said and done felt kinda weak and pointless.
Equalists are obviously non-benders supremacists. You know, fascists. The way how they talk about benders isn't much different than how fascists talk about Jewish people, especially how they want to clean them from their "impurities".
Supposed oppression was fascist propaganda.
Imagine calling someone like Hiroshi Sato, who is a successful bourgeois a communist?
Oh wait, they completely ignore him... I wonder why? Because their nonsensical political analysis will collapse into nothing.
Or calling Mako and Bolin, poor benders that barely made ends meet an oppressors.
Every villain in TLOK is some form of fascism: non-benders supremacists, clero-fascism, anarcho-primitivism, Nazism.
@@coall5002Because it was all one big fat fascist lie. There wasn't (systemic) oppression, Equalists are obviously non-benders supremacists and Amon was grifter that use movement for it's own goals.
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Lovely video!
I am literally going for a master's degree in history right now and about to graduate. If I have ever heard the term "biased protectorate", I do not remember it and I thank you for exposing me to it. Honestly, I am far more fascinated with how we tell history and topics about the power within storytelling than any particular time period or event and I really probably should have known this term but I really hope I remember it too. Thank you.
I love the real world themes that are in the series tbh. Amon was basically Stalin or Castro
amon was right about the inequality but doesn't have an actual solution. as if taking away someone's bending doesnt immediately lead to chaos and violence, as if it doesnt disrupt the economy which is powered by many industries that are heavily reliant on benders. i don't think he's all that smart honestly.
You basically hit the nail on the head with Amon for me as I'd felt the same way for a very long time.
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Regardless of whether or not people have powers / bending, there would still be corruption. Because people are still people.
To quote James Madison, "If men were angels, no government would be necessary."
I wished they would’ve continued with the Amon storyline. I could see the Equalist movement gaining more support and funding worldwide eventually turning into a terrorist organization. Eventually making Amon an international criminal wanted by all nations.
The fatal flaw to Amon's philosophy is that he thinks people will stop treating one another unfairly once benders are gone. The truth is, we're just as capable of being horrible to one another without bending. Case in point? (gestures vaguely to all of real life)
I am actually SUPER interested in your analysis of the bending Subtypes and advanced techniques with premises being an opinion of some sort. ALA Lavabending is the most destructive bending subtype, in the case of AoE. Compared to Bloodbending being the most lethal subtype in terms of 1v1 or 1vsmall group.
Could go into how Lightning is the most precise but in effect, the least utilitarian (other than naturally generated electricity and power) and Levitation (for Air), being the least unique (seeing that Firebenders can create organic jet boots for themselves for similar effect) but in terms of symbolism, one of if not the most liberating sub-type.
I mean were Amon’s goals really fake? Obviously at the end of the day he wanted to be the leader and have power, but I never got the vibe that he didn’t truly believe that benders were the problem. He was simply exposed that his powers were from bending not some act of God, but otherwise they never really showed anything that proved he didn’t actually believe in his movement.
He’s my favorite villain across the 2 series because I really like the story of revolution and ultimately I feel like the show did him dirty. Like “oh his plans were foiled because Korra unlocked air bending after he took away her other 3 elements, in which she then surprised him and blew him into the water.” How lame.
What would you have suggested happened at the end? Like how do you think it should've ended if you were the writer?
Chelsea xoxo I would’ve rather seen the benders talk the movement down. Have benders transfer more power to non-benders which they somewhat did but they barely showed it. Basically the non-benders win the power battle but the benders don’t get their powers taken away. Idk it just seemed rushed, the way he got taken out seemed too fast and simple for a character as mysterious as he was. I’m not a writer but you can tell the community agrees to some extent or another, his book is the least favorite in almost every poll I’ve seen.
That’s why the nonbenders stood out to me they were all unique
I was waiting for suki to be brought up 😥 love her💕
Although I agree with the statement “non-benders deserve better” I also greatly disagree that Amon was right. He wanted equality by bringing benders down, not by raising non-benders up. I think I better way out of this is technology advancing further where bending no longer becomes necessary. I picture the world of Pixar’s Onward where the effort it took to master magic no longer became worth it when technology could do most things much easier. With the rate of technological advancement in the world of Avatar I don’t think they were that far off of reaching that
_Thank you,_ you said it better than I could.
Agree.
Amon's ideology is like saying "I will make everyone miserable, so no one is miserable anymore" instead of actually trying to fix the problem
@@ivans.5959 Sounds like Syndrome's "when everyone's super, no one will be"
No I believe what Amon was saying is right but like toph said all the villains were out of balance going the wrong approach yes your right about bring up the non benders but people will eventually be Corrupt with power also
Except in Onward you still needed talent and skill to be a Mage, if you’re born a bender, you can just bend lmfao
Amon was interesting conceptually and could indeed bring some good points. Too bad Mike and Bryan completely botched the execution
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I've said this before, and I'll continue to say it.
The final book of Korra should not have had giant robots, what it should have had was the invention of the Gun.
Imagine the clash benders had to a weapon like a gun that can shoot a piece of lead at 1,200 m/s (3,900 ft/s) even the best benders or the Avatar could not stop something like that.
If Book 4 circled back to non-benders demanding equality and fairness from all the other benders then it would have been more of an engaging story with the complexities of the social order, to see who could be in the right as well as dealing with a new powerful weapon that has more significance since it's an invention that *anyone* can posses.
Not to mention the threat it would imposes the Avatar, cause even with the Avatar State you can't argue that it makes you bulletproof when a .50 caliber round is heading towards you at mach 1