I know what you mean, but I don't feel like a New Yorker even though you can automatically tell where I'm from - especially when I ask fa a glass ov wahtah....LOL
Not to be THAT person, but it is scientifically proven that language affects people/the culture/how they view things. I remember this example of a people that doesn't have "time" in their vocabulary and anything regarding it, so they don't know the stress that westerners have when it comes to time (time is money, etc.) I just find that super interesting and this is why i love languages/different cultures
I remember another example of a language that doesn’t have the verb “to have” so the idea of desiring tons of material posessions (like in western cultures) was pretty much nonexistent in their culture!
But are their culture shaped like that because they don't have certain words or do they not have certain words because that's just how their culture is shaped?
@@Luis-ej4ei it's not that simple. A culture doesn't just come into existence one day, like it's not a definitive or finitive thing with clear outlines, nothing you can really measure. Culture is continuously evolving and it's therefore very hard to get a grasp on it. Today's culture is different from a decade or two, so you can't say which came first. Culture and language are just way too intertwined. This is such a hard thing to explain lmao i'm sorry. I'd look at it like this: What would it be like if you grew up in culture where there is no word for time, for example? There is no word for it, so you won't get to know the concept. It doesn't matter which came first, originally. Because growing up, the word "time" not existing at all will affect you in your world view unknowingly.
@@xNujeL I just thought it was a bit weird that you originally commented that language affects culture, to me language is a product of the culture it developed in. So a given culture not having a concept of time is what explains a lack of words describing time in their language, not the other way around.
Which is connected to the concept of of loan words. Once one culture is influenced by another, new concepts/ideais etc. are introduced, which creates a need for words to describe them, and the language evolves to encompass the changing culture.
You know what? YES. I just get tired of all the predictable clickbaity RUclips content. Like, I’m tryna use social media to meet dope people and elevate my life‼️
@@jrdnk5715 i don't think they really have a name but you can search this on Google as a question. I'm greek and i can also speak English fluently and I've definitely seen the difference in my attitude and personality. I think tho it's tied to your experiences speaking/listening to that language
Mai Kamegaya mmm i thought about this and I think because I’m not as fluent in French as I am in English, articulation or eloquence is a bit more difficult for me in that language so I would have to “edit” the way I reply to virtually anything. I was taught French in a formal setting and I’m still very insecure about speaking it so I stick to very textbook phrases and/or responses so therefore I don’t have the same charisma as I do in English. So I guess I would have to agree but I don’t do it intentionally if that makes sense?
@@flo-floflo4151 just ask, don't overthink. Ask something simple, then the conversation will flow itself. I am normally veryyy shy and would always overthink. But since I came to study abroad I changed. I spoke, I didn't mind if someone will laugh. I met so many good people from different parts of the world. I am myself, I try to not judge others, I'm good listener and like to be kind to others. When I don't like smth I just move away.
I understand the desire to learn your lover's language to hear them purely so hard. When his English is good, that's super helpful, but it's not how he would naturally say these things to me. It's an approximation, and a communication barrier, something that (through an incredible amount of work and an incredibly expanding exercise) could be removed, and could bring us closer. Not just for lovers of course!
Paused the video because I had a thought when you were talking about love and how you say the same thing in English to all those you love: In English we do say we are IN love with our significant others. I think, at the very least, there's an emphasis on the idea that love is an encompassing experience that you share with someone else, whereas you can also acknowledge that you HAVE love (E.g. I love you), this weight of a feeling, for someone. That said, incredibly interesting conversation in this video - some things and concepts that I've not ever heard discussed elsewhere. You both are so lovely. Thank you for sharing this moment!
Can't believe how relatable this video is to my current situation!!! 1. Never felt like being a part of my culture, nor country, that is why I left it all behind. 2. I also have a french boyfriend for over 3 years now, who brought me to France (Nantes), so for over a year now, I am perfecting my french language skills (the 5th language that I speak) 3.French people being waaay too honest is something I hate and love about them at the same time. Thank you for this video, it reminded me again why I have subscribed to your channel!
I think American abroad privilege is definitely mitigated by race. When I was in Asia, Japan was quite used to the idea of Black Americans but had heavily stereotyped ideas of it and even of what being American meant. I was asked if I knew how to sing, dance, and if they could touch my curly hair-was it real? I was told I look like Beyonce (I don’t). The typical American things foreigners “think” they know are all predominately middle class white people things. I grew up eating rice and beans-not hamburgers and hot dogs. My host family looked at me in shock and confusion when I said I didn’t really like those things, or milk and cheese and they asked what did I eat in America, I must be starving over there. I know so many black folk who go to Korea, China, etc. and who aren’t believed when they say are Americans they’re not blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Representation is getting slowly better in the media we export but one of my Latina friends visits her South American family every year and even she experiences this. Her family upon meeting her were confused that she didn’t “look more American” with light eyes and straight hair. It feels like a lot of countries don’t know what to do with a non-white American abroad. They have to ask “oh but where were you born” or “where are your parents from?” I don’t even bother adding in I’m Latina because there are already so many Americans who don’t get all Latinas aren’t Mexican or look like JLo.
!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm Canadian, but I have Sri Lankan heritage. When I studied abroad in Sweden, I came across so many international students, but the ones who were most confused by my race were Italians & Spaniards. My Italian friend was convinced that Sri Lanka was part of Africa for a good 2 months (because apparently I'm SO dark I can't be Asian lol) & a Spanish guy literally asked me on Tinder if I was really from Canada because I had brown skin. They were so confused that I'm from a land of diversity... it was an interesting POV I observed
I agree. When I went to Italy for vacation, everyone assumed I was from mainland China even though I was speaking perfect English and I was born and raised in the US. I was treated differently than the white Americans as well.
Yup! People know the white middle class American experience since that’s most likely what they watched on tv. I live in Taiwan and people are always like “American?! 🤯But you’re black.” “Where are your parents from?” while they aren’t from the US (they’re Jamaican), there are tons of black people in the US and other Western Hemisphere countries who’ve been there for like 200+ years. Now compare that to let’s say a Polish descendant. Their ancestors probably came to the US in the 1930s.
@@nicolecooper1569 I kind of understand it to a degree,that they are only used to hearing about black people coming from Africa and I can also see a lot of white tourists going there. Yet, I have so many darn questions.... Are they taught about us history even if it is a tiny chapter? Do they assume that all white who have blue eye only come from the USA, what about Russia. The other place we often stereotype as having blonde hair and blue eyed people.... What about former president Obama? Even if they do not learn about US history, which is fine. We barely learn about others... Did they think he came solely from Africa? I think the blue eyes and blonde hair has really screwed up a lot of people expectations on foreigners and locals alike.
🌹SEGMENTS IN THIS VIDEO 🌹 0:58 How I met Rosa 2:15 Identity & Culture + Do you feel identified in the culture you grew up in? + Stereotypes + Privilege of being American around the world + Is it easier to leave your family when you have a huge family? 6:25 Growing up in a big city vs growing up in a small town 7:14 The Good and Bad of Dating French men 8:50 Saying I Love You (and how it’s weird we say the same I Love You to our parents, lovers, and friends) 9:50 Does language shape your thoughts? Does the language you speak influence how you see the world? The Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis and Linguistic Relativity + English being an emphatic language + Culture being appreciated in France 14:20 Are people who are from colder climates more intellectual on average than those from warmer climates? + Observing other cultures 15:46 Long-distance love + the guilt of being long-distance + Choosing over career over love 17:40 Speaking your native language vs speaking a language you learned + Reverting to your native language when you argue 19:27 Sustainable clothing + Thrifting 21:10 Final Thoughts + Comment below for future videos!
Speaking of the "does languages affect the way we percieve the world?" it made me remember something I studied about in school. There had been a new language discovered in a remote part of Asia, where the people had no vocabulary for possessing things. There was no such thing as ownership in their culture, nothing belonged to anyone, they just shared. Instead they had an extensive vocabulary of different tastes and colours. Thought it was very interesting and it really shows how much culture affects language and the other way around.
I loved this conversation. I took a linguistic anthropology class recently and we spent a while studying how your language shapes your culture/thoughts. So it's true! Also, Rosa is so incredibly classy and beautiful, omg.
I'm French, studying in Uni and when I'm confronted with a difficult exam subject I think about it in both English and French, it helps SO MUCH with broadening your point of view! Language most definitely shapes the way you think
I just wanna make a correction on an inaccuracy. The Greek language doesn't have 7 different words to express 7 different kinds of love. I mean, there are words that express emotions of desire such as lust, passion, fondness, infatuation, adoration, intimacy and yearning but they're not the same as love.
I’m Greek and unfortunately in modern Greek we only have one way to say I love you to everyone “σε αγαπώ” . The 7 different words you are saying about are in Ancient Greek
Also, in German, the verb isn’t at the end of the sentence really any more often than it isn’t. It always just goes in the second position, but certain conjunctions can push a secondary verb toward the end of a sentence or flip the verb and subject.
I’m a sociology major and a lot of people think it’s pointless but it really the basis for everything when it goes down to it like the world is made of societies and cultures and communities and nothing happens without being affected by these things it’s why I love it
5:15 I feel and relate to this on so many levels Damon! I was born and raised in the US but with Mexican parents and I never really felt 100% “American” you can say, so it’s so true where it would be easier for me to leave one day because I don’t feel so attached to this culture that I was born into.
i feel you damon....i never miss home (even my family) when traveling or live somewhere else....i easily feel detached because i don't feel strongly identified with my culture
Thank you for hearing me out! I think my point is that, just because you grew up a certain way, in a certain culture, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the one for you.
So glad I came across this vlog and commentary because I totally agree, Damon. Grew up in a small southern town and inwardly knew there has to more to life then the way (where) I grew up. And in my adulthood I've Iearned I was not created to fit in but to stand out. Be safe and continued success with your endeavors.
Rosa is the first english person whose british accent I did not hate. I actually loved it and I wanna keep her with me saying repeatedly "oh, that film looks rather good". I think I'm in love.
Listen, I never comment on videos, so that's how you know I really mean this. (Also, I may be under the influence of something) But, I just needed to say that I really love these sit down wine videos. It's so intriguing to me. The topics you talk about just pull me in so much. Pleeeeease keep making these! 💛
what you said about tone in english is so true! I'm in high school and have been taking french for five years. Since Freshman year, the way my high school french teacher taught us was telling stories in french, but using english emphasis and tone, etc. It helped for the words and their meanings to stick in our english-wired brains.
I'm with a Belgian and I think that the Francophone culture in regards to brutal honesty is so refreshing now but the few months our relationship was filled with emotional outbursts on my part when he'd give me unwanted opinions like food I had just made. I'm from one of those mentalities where if something is negative or can be perceived negative by another person even if you aren't wanting it to come off like that, I would rather not say anything at all. I think that there are times for both approaches to life but it's always funny to me how people from Anglophone countries tend to have similar experiences in that regard with francophone partners. Love the discussions on this channel and your own Damon!
13:08 well actually we do that... or at least in Belgium but I'm pretty sure it's the same in France. Also, the most famous entertainers are English because more people in the world can understand them. And we have many French-speaking entertainers, but they are more comedians or artiste "en-tout-genre" than TV-show stars as we don't watch TV-shows as often as Americans.
Damon! What you said at 9:50 is super intuitive and it’s actually a real thing in linguistic theory! It’s called the Whorfian hypothesis (: you can look into it
I'm a conference interpreting/translation/linguistics master student and one of my research areas is the theory of linguistic determinism and relativity which is based on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. I'm very pleased to hear that Damon and her friend are on the same wavelength as me, because I also think that the language you were raised with does frame your way of thinking and learning new languages gives you the opportunity to overcome this boundary
About the I love you thing and languages, I once read a book that had a quote I will never forget. the translation would be something like, One can only experience feelings for what one's language has a word. And I seriously believe language shape our way of thinking and seeing the world.
I really like the simple ascetics it gives late night talk with a friend vibes . The conversation about warmer climates vs colder climates in relation to focus or emphasis on arts and sciences is interesting . Although the deeper I think of it ,it’s very simple and if taken too literal can be problematic . Similar things are said in eugenics and white supremacy thinking . A lot of black and brown people live in warm climates ( as well as cold) but people of color are stereotyped to live in warmer climates. Saying “black and brown “ people in warmer climates don’t focus more on arts ,science, mathematics due to being outdoors is cheap and over simplistic because it ignores the accomplishments of black and brown peoples “the library’s and university of Timbuktu, sailing, art , bronze and iron work , navigation, mathematics , medicine , etc there’s so much because there’s so many regions and people but I’m typing off the top of my head . Saying that ignores or omits the accomplishments of black and brown peoples and civilizations in favor of white peoples under the guise of being about climate . Also remember the renaissance in Italy and Europe wouldn’t have happened with the Asian , and African traders at that time . ❤️
LIVING for these red wine talks. I just love the way you've structured these talks, all the topics flow very well into the other and it feels like we're right there with you having a conversation. Absolutely loving these!
13:13 had me realized that french people are so honest that they dont need much variety of tone to deliver the message in their language. While english speaking people are somewhat less direct so they need more tone to emphasize and express the meaning behind what they're saying.
About the Russian language though. It's not entirely true that the word order doesn't matter. It is not fixed, that is correct, you can put any word pretty much anywhere. But! It does change the tone and , sometimes, even the meaning of the whole utterance.
What you said about language shaping the way you see the world 🙌🏻 so true!! I’m from the US and was living in South Africa and telling someone about my stepsisters and stepfather and they were like “we don’t have that terminology in my language, they’re your sisters and your father, there’s no distinction between step vs full, you’re family”
Cross cultural and long distance here! I met my girlfriend while I was based in Houston (US) and she was based in Amsterdam (NL) so we were long distance for a while, then I moved to the netherlands for a lot of reasons, but mostly her and my career. It’s all good now but it’s been a long and bumpy ride. Long distance when you’ve already been together in person is so difficult, but it really tests how compatible you are because it’s so much easier to walk away when you’re not physically together. She’s 100% Dutch and I’m half Arab/half white American, grew up in the US. She feels more comfortable speaking English, she despises Dutch actually, but I like the language and I wanted a deeper connection to her family and speaking the local language of the place you live in is always handy. I learn so much about Dutch culture from her, and she learns from me too, but it is very true that people from outside the US almost always have an idea of the culture, at least more than Americans do about other countries.
I wanted to say, I'm French and yes that's true that we use a lot of vocabulary (idk how to say it in English but it can be vulgaire as well as soutenu according to the situation) and it's fascinating because, in general, we know how to switch from one way of speaking to another because of all the vocabulary we have. (so maybe we express more with the words than with the accentuation like you do in English, even if I think that we also use a lot the tone to express different things, especially irony or sarcasm!)
I love how the accent goes from Posh to Chilean when she says LATINA & I love the BRUTALLY HONEST & OPINIONATED FRENCH My 1st trip to Paris the sales woman said (not asked mind you), "You aren't going to buy THAT." & she looked like suddenly she realized I hadn't bathed in a month. I laughed so hard she just shook her head & floated away. That would NEVER happen in NYC. The salesperson would wish she had never been born.
i am lovinggggg this lowkey (maybe intentional? maybe unintentional??) duality going on on this channel now. a small part of me misses seeing damon and jo in the same place so often, but a much bigger part of me is absolutely LOVING these recent vids and how damon and jo individually speak on the intersections of identity and culture and exploration. as someone in my mid-20s, i feel this yearning to settle into a home and get roots somewhere super close to my family, but i also feel an equal yearning to keep traveling and exploring and having lovely conversations with friends and strangers. that's for perfectly reflecting what it feels like to be a curious 20something :) much love!
I think language definitely does affect our behaviour / mentality! In Spanish for example having ser and estar for to be immediately influences the way in which your perceive the rest of the sentence wherein in English that nuance doesn’t exist.
As a native french, speaking multiple languages, I can tell you that there are definitely different tones in French. It is true that there isn't any emphasis on words but that doesn't make our speech flat, in fact I believe it gives more room to speech intonations and also means they are more subtle. And this is what we tend to find extravagant with english speakers, no matter the accent, it is the intensity of speech tones, which have to be on top of words' emphasis, whereas in French there's one layer less. But I think the main thing we tend to find extravagant is actually the intensity of words english people would tend to use, like 'amazing', 'horrible' or any superlative which in French we would rather keep for things that we consider trully out of the ordinary. All in all this definitely doesn't make bilingual relationships any easier haha.
i watch your red wine talks and each time it makes me re-evaluate what i should do with my life each time ugh. Sometimes i’m like i should go into law so i can leave a mark on the world but i don’t want my life to be boring, i want it to be like these people sometimes with their vibrant lives and dreams
Wow! Her theory on it raining in England leading to so many great musicians is sooo interesting. I’ve always wondered how so many incredible musicians and bands have come from such a relatively small country.
I ‘love’ how in English you both throw around the phrase “I love [...]” but then you think it’s such a big deal to say “I love you” to your partner for the first time.
I'm a senior in college in the U.S. and we talk about how languages influences thought processes because I'm going for education and we talk about teaching students who's mother tongue might not be English, so we (as teachers) might need to word our questions differently or think about *their* answer in that lens to understand what they're trying to tell us the educator. I find it really, really cool.
every second of this was so interesting et c'est encore plus intéressant quand on parle deux des langues dont vous avez parlé!! bref j'adore les langues
Hey! I’ve been reading The Doors of Perception recently and it do says that we humans transmit (or try to) our experiences and way of seeing the world through words and symbols, and because of that process/ condition we create social groups surrounding this way of connecting and sharing ideas, whether it’s our family, group of friends or even cultural groups. Just remembered this related to what you were talking about how culture influences your way of thinking :)
It’s been a while since a live human being inspired me to like my body the way it is and be okay with wanting to alter myself as a person aesthetically (Ex. The way I move my body, my posture, basically my mannerisms) as well as dress and adorn myself as I wish + be ok with showing how I want to see & be myself just because I enjoy/feel like it. Thanks Rosa for inspiring me and thanks Damon for introducing your wonderful friend, your red wine talks are always so wonderful to watch.
"It doesn't matter how far you are.. you could be down the street [and] you're still not there" I agree. I met my bf in my summer abroad but I had to go back to the Philippines and he lives in France. It's been nearly half a year and it feels super fine! He's flying in for the upcoming holidays
Rosa’s way of talking about italians... SO SPOT ON! As an Italian myself, I now finally understand why people find my way of talking weird in foreign countries!
yikes that colder / hotter conversation is so rooted in racism i'm shocked these 2 were so on board with that thinking without realizing how ignorant they sound. literally just basing this off stereotypes.
Did your hear they mentioned "surfing, going to the beach,..." when talking about hot climate. They were focusing on the distraction of the outside world that leads to less interest in self education or creativity. But this doesn't apply to people who doesn't have the luxury to distract themselves outside or the accessibility even though it is sunny. So not every black or Arabic person from Africa, or Latinos from Latin America, or Asians from South Asia will be considerate as less educated. Even I live in a sunny place but I have nothing in my "city" so I try to find other ways to distract myself with books and studying. Boredom is the key word you should focus on
@@danyliv2028 I have to say that's a very simplified way of looking at things. As someone who lives in Los Angeles, I personally don't find any of the things surrounding me to be a distraction from intellectual exploration. I'm able to do both, and I think to believe that people are incapable of being thoughtful because they're too busy being out at the beach is assuming a lot. In the video, they brought up a point about the kinds of creatives that are well known and how they happen to be from "colder" climates, but the reality is these are mostly white people from Europe and that has been the gold standard of intellect (as someone from the US, that has been my experience). We are rarely taught about creatives from other countries and that only perpetuates the thinking that only people who are in cold / "no distraction" climates can be smart.
@@brendaescobar1821 you know that there are actual scientific studies linking boredom and creativity right? I agree they emphasized too much on the climate when the actual reason underneath is the boredom, which climate can help you to be in that situation for many people. The fact that there is no distraction outside too. Or that you don't find interest in those outside activities. Inside there is less you can do. But the TV and smartphone can be a full time distraction for some people. The thing is if your environment leads you to boredom, you will try to find ways to stimulate your brain creatively. The environment overcomes the will power to learn or to be creative. But of course climate isn't the only thing that makes you in your environment prone to creativity, and boredom isn't the only way. Sorry my English is bad so I can't clearly say what I think😞
@@danyliv2028 Sure, there are studies linking the two but that isn't fully the point. The people we learn about and are told to idolize leans towards White / Eurocentric / Male / etc. The conversation they had didn't touch on that fact at all which is unfortunate because I think the article they were discussing could've addressed that too. It's not really up for debate that that way of thinking is rooted in racism (not saying they're racist, but the topic stems from racist ideals).
@@brendaescobar1821 why do they have to mention that if the topic is still supported by studies and therefore still relevant to discuss about? Sure maybe Europeans in the past used that argument with no evidence to prove their """natural superiority""". But now that there are studies about it why we have to keep linking it to racism? Plus this idea doesn't target only POC anymore. Just in case, I'm an africain woman living in Belgium lol
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Rosa looks like a living renaissance painting wtf
Seems like she would play one on the rich women on Titanic...she looks so classy
YESSSSSSSSS
omg truly
YESS
omg yessss! hahaha
"I've never felt English", said the girl with the most wonderful British accent ever.
I loved it.
I know what you mean, but I don't feel like a New Yorker even though you can automatically tell where I'm from - especially when I ask fa a glass ov wahtah....LOL
Of course, I just thought it was delightfully ironic!
Yeah she could be northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh
Lots and lots of people don't sound like Rosa in an England though loool
Florence Welch has an accent like that
ROSA'S ACCENT.
DamonAndJo hahahahah heyyyy girl x
And she is beautiful!
Clicked sooo quickly!! Love you Damon and Jo. ❤️❤️ so inspirational
Her accent is EVERYTHING 😍
The way she says "Carpet" 😍
Rosa's posture is really good !! She looks elegant while seating haha
Sannah Sadiq It’s probably that outfit but yes.
I can see those ten years of ballet....
I agree
Sannah Sadiq // the way she talks too
They both do. Now I’m feeling insecure about my posture 😂
What I learned from the video: get my good posture back, go to France to get a bf.
Aella Lee Wait, Is this not what we came for? Im confused 😂
Aella Lee that’s the ultimate goallll!!
That's the plan!
same lmao
YOU ARE WELCOME TO PARIS DEAR STRANGER :)
This was SO INTERESTING. It feels like we're just sitting here with you guys. So nice !!
That’s the idea! 😘 Thanx for watching boo
I love how she says her name in multiple languages with multiple accents 😍😭
I was just imaginig how my name sounds in the 5languages I speak. Lol. Bad.
I'm french and the way she said "Rosa" with the French accent was so realistic
Sweet Candie damon’s portuguese pronunciation was also great
@@username-pb9ui yup
Not to be THAT person, but it is scientifically proven that language affects people/the culture/how they view things.
I remember this example of a people that doesn't have "time" in their vocabulary and anything regarding it, so they don't know the stress that westerners have when it comes to time (time is money, etc.)
I just find that super interesting and this is why i love languages/different cultures
I remember another example of a language that doesn’t have the verb “to have” so the idea of desiring tons of material posessions (like in western cultures) was pretty much nonexistent in their culture!
But are their culture shaped like that because they don't have certain words or do they not have certain words because that's just how their culture is shaped?
@@Luis-ej4ei it's not that simple. A culture doesn't just come into existence one day, like it's not a definitive or finitive thing with clear outlines, nothing you can really measure. Culture is continuously evolving and it's therefore very hard to get a grasp on it. Today's culture is different from a decade or two, so you can't say which came first. Culture and language are just way too intertwined. This is such a hard thing to explain lmao i'm sorry.
I'd look at it like this: What would it be like if you grew up in culture where there is no word for time, for example? There is no word for it, so you won't get to know the concept. It doesn't matter which came first, originally. Because growing up, the word "time" not existing at all will affect you in your world view unknowingly.
@@xNujeL I just thought it was a bit weird that you originally commented that language affects culture, to me language is a product of the culture it developed in. So a given culture not having a concept of time is what explains a lack of words describing time in their language, not the other way around.
Which is connected to the concept of of loan words. Once one culture is influenced by another, new concepts/ideais etc. are introduced, which creates a need for words to describe them, and the language evolves to encompass the changing culture.
I wouldn't mind listening to a podcast with damon, jo, and their friends as guests
yes!
Id love that
Yaaaaaasss
oh yessss
yesss!!!
Rosa is so elegant and gracious!
I love this grown and sexy talking RUclips
You know what? YES. I just get tired of all the predictable clickbaity RUclips content. Like, I’m tryna use social media to meet dope people and elevate my life‼️
I feel like I have different personalities depending on the language I’m speaking
THIS IS SO TRUE
This has been scientifically explained
gαlαxy That’s so interesting! As someone who’s monolingual I’ve never really thought about it. What are these theories called??
@@jrdnk5715 i don't think they really have a name but you can search this on Google as a question. I'm greek and i can also speak English fluently and I've definitely seen the difference in my attitude and personality. I think tho it's tied to your experiences speaking/listening to that language
Mai Kamegaya mmm i thought about this and I think because I’m not as fluent in French as I am in English, articulation or eloquence is a bit more difficult for me in that language so I would have to “edit” the way I reply to virtually anything. I was taught French in a formal setting and I’m still very insecure about speaking it so I stick to very textbook phrases and/or responses so therefore I don’t have the same charisma as I do in English. So I guess I would have to agree but I don’t do it intentionally if that makes sense?
Not gonna lie, first thing I noticed about Rosa was her posture.
Rosa's dress!!! 😍 loved this
Shayna! We gotta film one of these + paint more. That makes 2 more times you gotta hang out w me!!!
DamonAndJo Haha I'm down 💃🏽
The Purple Palace I am DYING to see you two in a video
Damon, can you do a video on how to meet new friends? I honestly envy how you meet people
I’m lucky that they’re all from this channel! 🥰
Same, I dnt know how to initiate conversation or make that click with someone. Sometimes my friendships stay surface level :/
@@flo-floflo4151 just ask, don't overthink. Ask something simple, then the conversation will flow itself. I am normally veryyy shy and would always overthink. But since I came to study abroad I changed. I spoke, I didn't mind if someone will laugh. I met so many good people from different parts of the world. I am myself, I try to not judge others, I'm good listener and like to be kind to others. When I don't like smth I just move away.
I understand the desire to learn your lover's language to hear them purely so hard. When his English is good, that's super helpful, but it's not how he would naturally say these things to me. It's an approximation, and a communication barrier, something that (through an incredible amount of work and an incredibly expanding exercise) could be removed, and could bring us closer.
Not just for lovers of course!
Ewan Matthews totally agree
This is the kind of conversation that I have with myself in the bathroom and I love it.
Her outfit is on point!!!
It always is!
Paused the video because I had a thought when you were talking about love and how you say the same thing in English to all those you love: In English we do say we are IN love with our significant others. I think, at the very least, there's an emphasis on the idea that love is an encompassing experience that you share with someone else, whereas you can also acknowledge that you HAVE love (E.g. I love you), this weight of a feeling, for someone.
That said, incredibly interesting conversation in this video - some things and concepts that I've not ever heard discussed elsewhere.
You both are so lovely. Thank you for sharing this moment!
o0o0o0o0o interesting observation! didn’t think about that! see that’s why i like y’all ♥️
This video just called me uncultured.
sooo how do I join this friendship, who’s tryna friendship like thisss
I meannnnn hi what's your ig
@@maybee0303 Hahahahah move.
Ammarah Ahmed evlynn_ !
Girl same!!
hmu girl!!
Can't believe how relatable this video is to my current situation!!!
1. Never felt like being a part of my culture, nor country, that is why I left it all behind.
2. I also have a french boyfriend for over 3 years now, who brought me to France (Nantes), so for over a year now, I am perfecting my french language skills (the 5th language that I speak)
3.French people being waaay too honest is something I hate and love about them at the same time.
Thank you for this video, it reminded me again why I have subscribed to your channel!
E. Rynkun ayyyy Im from Nantes too 😊 so random
Make a youtube channel about your life in Nantes!
I think American abroad privilege is definitely mitigated by race. When I was in Asia, Japan was quite used to the idea of Black Americans but had heavily stereotyped ideas of it and even of what being American meant. I was asked if I knew how to sing, dance, and if they could touch my curly hair-was it real? I was told I look like Beyonce (I don’t).
The typical American things foreigners “think” they know are all predominately middle class white people things. I grew up eating rice and beans-not hamburgers and hot dogs. My host family looked at me in shock and confusion when I said I didn’t really like those things, or milk and cheese and they asked what did I eat in America, I must be starving over there.
I know so many black folk who go to Korea, China, etc. and who aren’t believed when they say are Americans they’re not blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Representation is getting slowly better in the media we export but one of my Latina friends visits her South American family every year and even she experiences this. Her family upon meeting her were confused that she didn’t “look more American” with light eyes and straight hair.
It feels like a lot of countries don’t know what to do with a non-white American abroad. They have to ask “oh but where were you born” or “where are your parents from?” I don’t even bother adding in I’m Latina because there are already so many Americans who don’t get all Latinas aren’t Mexican or look like JLo.
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I'm Canadian, but I have Sri Lankan heritage. When I studied abroad in Sweden, I came across so many international students, but the ones who were most confused by my race were Italians & Spaniards. My Italian friend was convinced that Sri Lanka was part of Africa for a good 2 months (because apparently I'm SO dark I can't be Asian lol) & a Spanish guy literally asked me on Tinder if I was really from Canada because I had brown skin. They were so confused that I'm from a land of diversity... it was an interesting POV I observed
Completely agree!
I agree. When I went to Italy for vacation, everyone assumed I was from mainland China even though I was speaking perfect English and I was born and raised in the US. I was treated differently than the white Americans as well.
Yup! People know the white middle class American experience since that’s most likely what they watched on tv. I live in Taiwan and people are always like “American?! 🤯But you’re black.” “Where are your parents from?” while they aren’t from the US (they’re Jamaican), there are tons of black people in the US and other Western Hemisphere countries who’ve been there for like 200+ years. Now compare that to let’s say a Polish descendant. Their ancestors probably came to the US in the 1930s.
@@nicolecooper1569 I kind of understand it to a degree,that they are only used to hearing about black people coming from Africa and I can also see a lot of white tourists going there. Yet, I have so many darn questions....
Are they taught about us history even if it is a tiny chapter?
Do they assume that all white who have blue eye only come from the USA, what about Russia. The other place we often stereotype as having blonde hair and blue eyed people....
What about former president Obama? Even if they do not learn about US history, which is fine. We barely learn about others...
Did they think he came solely from Africa?
I think the blue eyes and blonde hair has really screwed up a lot of people expectations on foreigners and locals alike.
sis waist is really out here being that snatched
I get mad cat vibes from her, she's like a cat just perching in the corner of the bed hehe
this is such an adorable image
🌹SEGMENTS IN THIS VIDEO 🌹
0:58 How I met Rosa
2:15 Identity & Culture + Do you feel identified in the culture you grew up in? + Stereotypes + Privilege of being American around the world + Is it easier to leave your family when you have a huge family?
6:25 Growing up in a big city vs growing up in a small town
7:14 The Good and Bad of Dating French men
8:50 Saying I Love You (and how it’s weird we say the same I Love You to our parents, lovers, and friends)
9:50 Does language shape your thoughts? Does the language you speak influence how you see the world? The Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis and Linguistic Relativity + English being an emphatic language + Culture being appreciated in France
14:20 Are people who are from colder climates more intellectual on average than those from warmer climates? + Observing other cultures
15:46 Long-distance love + the guilt of being long-distance + Choosing over career over love
17:40 Speaking your native language vs speaking a language you learned + Reverting to your native language when you argue
19:27 Sustainable clothing + Thrifting
21:10 Final Thoughts + Comment below for future videos!
Speaking of the "does languages affect the way we percieve the world?" it made me remember something I studied about in school. There had been a new language discovered in a remote part of Asia, where the people had no vocabulary for possessing things. There was no such thing as ownership in their culture, nothing belonged to anyone, they just shared. Instead they had an extensive vocabulary of different tastes and colours.
Thought it was very interesting and it really shows how much culture affects language and the other way around.
I loved this conversation. I took a linguistic anthropology class recently and we spent a while studying how your language shapes your culture/thoughts. So it's true! Also, Rosa is so incredibly classy and beautiful, omg.
How interesting! May you share something from that class?
I'm French, studying in Uni and when I'm confronted with a difficult exam subject I think about it in both English and French, it helps SO MUCH with broadening your point of view! Language most definitely shapes the way you think
I just wanna make a correction on an inaccuracy. The Greek language doesn't have 7 different words to express 7 different kinds of love. I mean, there are words that express emotions of desire such as lust, passion, fondness, infatuation, adoration, intimacy and yearning but they're not the same as love.
I’m Greek and unfortunately in modern Greek we only have one way to say I love you to everyone “σε αγαπώ” . The 7 different words you are saying about are in Ancient Greek
Okay can Rosa give us outfit details? I’m in love
Sydney Thomas im posting about it on my insta later darling @itsrosacecilia
Please please I beg you girls... It's gorgeous. And this was so wonderful.
@@rosagosling828 I couldn't find it on your insta! :)
Mercedes Romero Dutschmann I couldn’t find it either; I’m loosing my mind over it, it’s just too good !
Omg I found it! It is in the eco fashion tab on her insta!
That quote about speaking to a person in there native language was Nelson Mandela. South Africa represent 🇿🇦
Nicholas Lowick ohhhh love that
unfortunately it was also Thomas Jefferson lol who is actually the absolute worse person, so I'll associate it with Mandela now
(Nicholas you excited for SA v. UK?)
also i was right about to post this, dankie boss
Khaya Barnes I’m boutta go have a braai
Jacob Blott so yes very much so
the whole thing about colder and hotter climates is really weighted in colorism across a global scale, and has huge racist symbolisms
Lina Bhatti Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that 😂😂 Even why so many celebrities are English, it’s clearly a result of colonization
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coming from a HOT southeast asian country I was definitely rubbed the wrong way when I heard it 🤢
Yeah, I think so
Yeah, this seems problematic to me and very eugenics-adjacent
I love these series Damon, you stay in Europe though, what about expanding these types of convos to Asia and latin America?
100% will do!
Y'all look boom in this lighting not gonna lie btw I love hearing Rosa speak her accent is so nice
Also, in German, the verb isn’t at the end of the sentence really any more often than it isn’t. It always just goes in the second position, but certain conjunctions can push a secondary verb toward the end of a sentence or flip the verb and subject.
I think you would love sociology, Damon. It really encapsulates a lot of what you touched on in this video
I probably should’ve went to school for that
I’m a sociology major and a lot of people think it’s pointless but it really the basis for everything when it goes down to it like the world is made of societies and cultures and communities and nothing happens without being affected by these things it’s why I love it
Anthropology, too!
This is making me wish I went to school. Sociology and anthropology sounds so interesting.
Isabel Alves de Lima i’m majoring in sociology too! so far just doing my gen ed’s, but i definitely agree that it’s not pointless at all
Rosa a tellement de charme c'est fouuu!!!
5:15 I feel and relate to this on so many levels Damon! I was born and raised in the US but with Mexican parents and I never really felt 100% “American” you can say, so it’s so true where it would be easier for me to leave one day because I don’t feel so attached to this culture that I was born into.
i feel you damon....i never miss home (even my family) when traveling or live somewhere else....i easily feel detached because i don't feel strongly identified with my culture
Thank you for hearing me out! I think my point is that, just because you grew up a certain way, in a certain culture, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the one for you.
So glad I came across this vlog and commentary because I totally agree, Damon. Grew up in a small southern town and inwardly knew there has to more to life then the way (where) I grew up. And in my adulthood I've Iearned I was not created to fit in but to stand out. Be safe and continued success with your endeavors.
Rosa is the first english person whose british accent I did not hate. I actually loved it and I wanna keep her with me saying repeatedly "oh, that film looks rather good". I think I'm in love.
the way you guys talk in this and the way the camera's set up - i feel like i'm just sitting across from y'all having a chat. love it.
I could listen to you two for hours
Damon should make 1 hour podcasts
Listen, I never comment on videos, so that's how you know I really mean this. (Also, I may be under the influence of something) But, I just needed to say that I really love these sit down wine videos. It's so intriguing to me. The topics you talk about just pull me in so much. Pleeeeease keep making these! 💛
wow damon - "wherever you are, you still aren't there." idk why that hit so hard.
The part where Damon talked about not being your true self when you speak another language really hit hard.
At first I ignored all videos with "Red wine talks" thinking I wouldn't like them but now I live to love them
5:02 As someone from Nashville, we are NOT the midwest lol
what you said about tone in english is so true! I'm in high school and have been taking french for five years. Since Freshman year, the way my high school french teacher taught us was telling stories in french, but using english emphasis and tone, etc. It helped for the words and their meanings to stick in our english-wired brains.
I laughed so hard when you said "AH D'ACCORD" with all that sass
I'm with a Belgian and I think that the Francophone culture in regards to brutal honesty is so refreshing now but the few months our relationship was filled with emotional outbursts on my part when he'd give me unwanted opinions like food I had just made. I'm from one of those mentalities where if something is negative or can be perceived negative by another person even if you aren't wanting it to come off like that, I would rather not say anything at all.
I think that there are times for both approaches to life but it's always funny to me how people from Anglophone countries tend to have similar experiences in that regard with francophone partners.
Love the discussions on this channel and your own Damon!
"If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart." Nelson Mandela
hello
So ready to settle down with my own red wine & watch this.
13:08 well actually we do that... or at least in Belgium but I'm pretty sure it's the same in France. Also, the most famous entertainers are English because more people in the world can understand them. And we have many French-speaking entertainers, but they are more comedians or artiste "en-tout-genre" than TV-show stars as we don't watch TV-shows as often as Americans.
All the ladies Damon hangs out with are so classy imma follow everyone's igs
Damon! What you said at 9:50 is super intuitive and it’s actually a real thing in linguistic theory! It’s called the Whorfian hypothesis (: you can look into it
Rosa's accent got progressively more street lol
I'm a conference interpreting/translation/linguistics master student and one of my research areas is the theory of linguistic determinism and relativity which is based on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. I'm very pleased to hear that Damon and her friend are on the same wavelength as me, because I also think that the language you were raised with does frame your way of thinking and learning new languages gives you the opportunity to overcome this boundary
Socio-linguistics is a very interesting topic to delve into! I would love to see you and JO talk about it as well!
I love when he says things like "well it's true" because it's like yeah that's true but it doesn't mean anything or what you think it means
About the I love you thing and languages, I once read a book that had a quote I will never forget. the translation would be something like, One can only experience feelings for what one's language has a word. And I seriously believe language shape our way of thinking and seeing the world.
I really like the simple ascetics it gives late night talk with a friend vibes .
The conversation about warmer climates vs colder climates in relation to focus or emphasis on arts and sciences is interesting . Although the deeper I think of it ,it’s very simple and if taken too literal can be problematic . Similar things are said in eugenics and white supremacy thinking . A lot of black and brown people live in warm climates ( as well as cold) but people of color are stereotyped to live in warmer climates.
Saying “black and brown “ people in warmer climates don’t focus more on arts ,science, mathematics due to being outdoors is cheap and over simplistic because it ignores the accomplishments of black and brown peoples “the library’s and university of Timbuktu, sailing, art , bronze and iron work , navigation, mathematics , medicine , etc there’s so much because there’s so many regions and people but I’m typing off the top of my head .
Saying that ignores or omits the accomplishments of black and brown peoples and civilizations in favor of white peoples under the guise of being about climate .
Also remember the renaissance in Italy and Europe wouldn’t have happened with the Asian , and African traders at that time .
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What Rosa said about everybody already knowing american culture bc of al the shows and movies we watched growing up is so true
LIVING for these red wine talks. I just love the way you've structured these talks, all the topics flow very well into the other and it feels like we're right there with you having a conversation. Absolutely loving these!
As I foreigner living in the US for many years now, I must say that Americans are very sensitive. Everything has to pass through multiple filters.
13:13 had me realized that french people are so honest that they dont need much variety of tone to deliver the message in their language. While english speaking people are somewhat less direct so they need more tone to emphasize and express the meaning behind what they're saying.
About the Russian language though. It's not entirely true that the word order doesn't matter. It is not fixed, that is correct, you can put any word pretty much anywhere. But! It does change the tone and , sometimes, even the meaning of the whole utterance.
Rosa is just gracefully set in the back like some godess in 19th century realist painting. These two make for good wine talks.
Omg she’s so beautiful
What you said about language shaping the way you see the world 🙌🏻 so true!! I’m from the US and was living in South Africa and telling someone about my stepsisters and stepfather and they were like “we don’t have that terminology in my language, they’re your sisters and your father, there’s no distinction between step vs full, you’re family”
Damon you literally have the coolest friends
Cross cultural and long distance here! I met my girlfriend while I was based in Houston (US) and she was based in Amsterdam (NL) so we were long distance for a while, then I moved to the netherlands for a lot of reasons, but mostly her and my career. It’s all good now but it’s been a long and bumpy ride. Long distance when you’ve already been together in person is so difficult, but it really tests how compatible you are because it’s so much easier to walk away when you’re not physically together. She’s 100% Dutch and I’m half Arab/half white American, grew up in the US. She feels more comfortable speaking English, she despises Dutch actually, but I like the language and I wanted a deeper connection to her family and speaking the local language of the place you live in is always handy. I learn so much about Dutch culture from her, and she learns from me too, but it is very true that people from outside the US almost always have an idea of the culture, at least more than Americans do about other countries.
Damoooon can you please make more of these related to languages and stuff. It's really educating and interesting, maybe have a podcast or somehing.
I wanted to say, I'm French and yes that's true that we use a lot of vocabulary (idk how to say it in English but it can be vulgaire as well as soutenu according to the situation) and it's fascinating because, in general, we know how to switch from one way of speaking to another because of all the vocabulary we have. (so maybe we express more with the words than with the accentuation like you do in English, even if I think that we also use a lot the tone to express different things, especially irony or sarcasm!)
I love how the accent goes from Posh to Chilean when she says LATINA
& I love the BRUTALLY HONEST & OPINIONATED FRENCH
My 1st trip to Paris the sales woman said (not asked mind you), "You aren't going to buy THAT." & she looked like suddenly she realized I hadn't bathed in a month.
I laughed so hard she just shook her head & floated away.
That would NEVER happen in NYC. The salesperson would wish she had never been born.
i am lovinggggg this lowkey (maybe intentional? maybe unintentional??) duality going on on this channel now. a small part of me misses seeing damon and jo in the same place so often, but a much bigger part of me is absolutely LOVING these recent vids and how damon and jo individually speak on the intersections of identity and culture and exploration. as someone in my mid-20s, i feel this yearning to settle into a home and get roots somewhere super close to my family, but i also feel an equal yearning to keep traveling and exploring and having lovely conversations with friends and strangers. that's for perfectly reflecting what it feels like to be a curious 20something :) much love!
I think language definitely does affect our behaviour / mentality! In Spanish for example having ser and estar for to be immediately influences the way in which your perceive the rest of the sentence wherein in English that nuance doesn’t exist.
The fact that some people say “Estoy casado” instead of “Soy” 😂😂😂
DamonAndJo haha wonder how long that marriage is going to last 😂
As a native french, speaking multiple languages, I can tell you that there are definitely different tones in French. It is true that there isn't any emphasis on words but that doesn't make our speech flat, in fact I believe it gives more room to speech intonations and also means they are more subtle.
And this is what we tend to find extravagant with english speakers, no matter the accent, it is the intensity of speech tones, which have to be on top of words' emphasis, whereas in French there's one layer less.
But I think the main thing we tend to find extravagant is actually the intensity of words english people would tend to use, like 'amazing', 'horrible' or any superlative which in French we would rather keep for things that we consider trully out of the ordinary.
All in all this definitely doesn't make bilingual relationships any easier haha.
Rosa's hair is giving me dirty dancing vibes. I love it!
i watch your red wine talks and each time it makes me re-evaluate what i should do with my life each time ugh. Sometimes i’m like i should go into law so i can leave a mark on the world but i don’t want my life to be boring, i want it to be like these people sometimes with their vibrant lives and dreams
"I'm from Acton" the Londoner really jumped out and I want us to be friends
Wow! Her theory on it raining in England leading to so many great musicians is sooo interesting. I’ve always wondered how so many incredible musicians and bands have come from such a relatively small country.
actually there's no proof of that at all, it has a lot more to do with the english educational system, besides other economical factors
I ‘love’ how in English you both throw around the phrase “I love [...]” but then you think it’s such a big deal to say “I love you” to your partner for the first time.
I'm a senior in college in the U.S. and we talk about how languages influences thought processes because I'm going for education and we talk about teaching students who's mother tongue might not be English, so we (as teachers) might need to word our questions differently or think about *their* answer in that lens to understand what they're trying to tell us the educator. I find it really, really cool.
every second of this was so interesting et c'est encore plus intéressant quand on parle deux des langues dont vous avez parlé!! bref j'adore les langues
Hey! I’ve been reading The Doors of Perception recently and it do says that we humans transmit (or try to) our experiences and way of seeing the world through words and symbols, and because of that process/ condition we create social groups surrounding this way of connecting and sharing ideas, whether it’s our family, group of friends or even cultural groups. Just remembered this related to what you were talking about how culture influences your way of thinking :)
This video was so aesthetically pleasing. I’ve been blessed.
It’s been a while since a live human being inspired me to like my body the way it is and be okay with wanting to alter myself as a person aesthetically (Ex. The way I move my body, my posture, basically my mannerisms) as well as dress and adorn myself as I wish + be ok with showing how I want to see & be myself just because I enjoy/feel like it. Thanks Rosa for inspiring me and thanks Damon for introducing your wonderful friend, your red wine talks are always so wonderful to watch.
this is highkey the best youtube video i've ever watched!!
What an intellectual wine conversation. I loved this! I’m also obsessed wit Rosa. What a beautiful human
She’s insanely fire hot. Maybe it’s the light. Nope, it’s her.
Why doesn’t Rosa have a channel?
Agreed
"It doesn't matter how far you are.. you could be down the street [and] you're still not there" I agree. I met my bf in my summer abroad but I had to go back to the Philippines and he lives in France. It's been nearly half a year and it feels super fine! He's flying in for the upcoming holidays
I looooove this. Alsoooo i need Rosa's outfit pleaseee. Where is it from 😂
jasxx its all vintage or second hand babayyy
@@rosagosling828 love 🙌🏾
I know, that top is to die for
Rosa’s way of talking about italians... SO SPOT ON! As an Italian myself, I now finally understand why people find my way of talking weird in foreign countries!
Damon, never stop doing these wine talks ❤️
can you make these videos an hour long pls, your conversations are super thought provoking
yikes that colder / hotter conversation is so rooted in racism i'm shocked these 2 were so on board with that thinking without realizing how ignorant they sound. literally just basing this off stereotypes.
Did your hear they mentioned "surfing, going to the beach,..." when talking about hot climate. They were focusing on the distraction of the outside world that leads to less interest in self education or creativity. But this doesn't apply to people who doesn't have the luxury to distract themselves outside or the accessibility even though it is sunny. So not every black or Arabic person from Africa, or Latinos from Latin America, or Asians from South Asia will be considerate as less educated. Even I live in a sunny place but I have nothing in my "city" so I try to find other ways to distract myself with books and studying. Boredom is the key word you should focus on
@@danyliv2028 I have to say that's a very simplified way of looking at things. As someone who lives in Los Angeles, I personally don't find any of the things surrounding me to be a distraction from intellectual exploration. I'm able to do both, and I think to believe that people are incapable of being thoughtful because they're too busy being out at the beach is assuming a lot. In the video, they brought up a point about the kinds of creatives that are well known and how they happen to be from "colder" climates, but the reality is these are mostly white people from Europe and that has been the gold standard of intellect (as someone from the US, that has been my experience). We are rarely taught about creatives from other countries and that only perpetuates the thinking that only people who are in cold / "no distraction" climates can be smart.
@@brendaescobar1821 you know that there are actual scientific studies linking boredom and creativity right? I agree they emphasized too much on the climate when the actual reason underneath is the boredom, which climate can help you to be in that situation for many people. The fact that there is no distraction outside too. Or that you don't find interest in those outside activities. Inside there is less you can do. But the TV and smartphone can be a full time distraction for some people. The thing is if your environment leads you to boredom, you will try to find ways to stimulate your brain creatively. The environment overcomes the will power to learn or to be creative. But of course climate isn't the only thing that makes you in your environment prone to creativity, and boredom isn't the only way.
Sorry my English is bad so I can't clearly say what I think😞
@@danyliv2028 Sure, there are studies linking the two but that isn't fully the point. The people we learn about and are told to idolize leans towards White / Eurocentric / Male / etc. The conversation they had didn't touch on that fact at all which is unfortunate because I think the article they were discussing could've addressed that too. It's not really up for debate that that way of thinking is rooted in racism (not saying they're racist, but the topic stems from racist ideals).
@@brendaescobar1821 why do they have to mention that if the topic is still supported by studies and therefore still relevant to discuss about? Sure maybe Europeans in the past used that argument with no evidence to prove their """natural superiority""". But now that there are studies about it why we have to keep linking it to racism? Plus this idea doesn't target only POC anymore.
Just in case, I'm an africain woman living in Belgium lol
I know the world doesn't need more podcasts but.... if you two had a podcast I would quit my job to listen 24/7