Even if he was convicted of a felony. Probation would have still been on the table as punishment. Probation is handed out way more than you would think.
Michigan has soft on crime liberals running the state. They love it when these things happen. Now, they can stand on their graves and push gun control.
It makes being a law abiding citizen unfair in my honest opinion! I have a clean record, domestic violence survivor, retired school bus driver, CPL holder for my personal safety. I got my gun the legal way, took a class for my CPL too and I target practice at the range when ammo is available
It was illegal for him to have any firearms. Cops were called multiple times to his father's house because he was shooting in the backyard. The cops know he's not allowed to have guns. And did nothing. Every single time they drop the ball and call for taking your natural rights away (which is the real point).
I feel like I understand what's in his 3 page document already... and it pales in comparison to what I would have to say. But it's just as well to say nothing, and just do.
I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature makes them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the mix of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation
I’m hoping this isn’t a diss. But if it isn’t thank you. I just know people will jump at the fact the shooter was black. Which is completely unfair being that Parkland, Buffalo, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook we’re all white men. Respect ❤
There is good and bad in every race but in all honesty this has nothing to do with race and more to do with lazy Prosecutors and Politicians and mental health .
@vespasianflavius8778 that's like saying it would be even better if we had more people like Bryan Christopher Kohberger or even Michael Haight around to make us feel safe and secure in our everyday lives 😑
The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of deaths from gun violence in the world. In 2019, the country had only about .04 deaths per 100,000 people. That’s compared to 3.96 for the U.S. in the same year. United States - 37,038 Gun Death, United Kingdom 2016: 107 Japan boasts a population of more than 127 million people, yet finished 2019 with a gun death rate of only .02 per 100,000 people. One major factor in this success is that Japan has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. The Gun industry is no different than the oil and cigarette companies, we know they are deadly but there's too much money and power behind it to stop it so the government just gets their share through taxing it.
@@Gauge1LiveSteam My point was they cause problems and pretend to solve the problems they cause with other people’s money. Everyone knows who built this country and who’s destroying it.
Did you vote straight democrat in past MI elections, or for Carol Siemons specifically? If so, you are to blame for the MSU shooting. Carol Siemon (the democrat prosecutor) was directly responsible for pleading down his felony gun charge that should have barred him from owning/purchasing firearms, and he would've gone to jail for 2-5 years. Her goal was to reduce 'racial disparities' by making it a policy to reduce the number of felony gun possession charges. the exact charge you are seeing in this body cam footage. Leftist democrat policies that are soft on crime and hyper-focused on race are to blame for criminals walking free here in lansing, and across the country.
The criminal should have been neutralized on sight on this encounter. If he officer had done his job, the victims that this street thug killed would still be alive.
You are aware that our law enforcement was made for civilized people, not the 82% of shooters in this country who are black men. When are you going to isolate the variable? The data is discoverable.
@@cowboyx9380Incorrect. They were called to where he lived several times on account of him firing weapons in the backyard. They know who he was and that it was illegal for him to have firearms. He wasn't arrested any of those times. They failed to do their jobs. The shooter walked four miles over 3 hours without being apprehended. The only reason there aren't many more dead is because the shooter decided not to. Not because of cops did a "great job". Three hours. Uvalde. Didn't go in until the shooting stopped (children). Pulse. Didn't go in until the shooting stopped. Cops will not save you and have no responsibility to do so. These are facts.
You’re second comment is correct. They took hours to respond to MSD Parkland shooting in my county in florida. They let it happen because they were payed to. The common shooting response time is 1-3 minutes. HOURS? k
@@karllager2214 The facts which you speak are NOT facts…just libtard parroting….ill bet you never even read the SCOTUS case on police responsibilities….you just parrot internet spew like a tard!
This man used a weapon, he claimed was for "protection", to mercilessly kill 3, critically injuring 5, and severely traumatize over 50,000 students in a place we call home. There are no words for what happened on Monday. As a current MSU student, I can't even begin to describe the emotions everyone who was on campus is feeling. Being in an apartment steps away from one of the buildings where students' lives were taken way too soon by this evil being gives me a sense of guilt. There were students in the classrooms who witnessed it all, and one selflessly used their clothing to help stop the bleeding of another student. Some students saw white sheets placed over the victims. Some students are told to "be ready for class at Berky/The Union on Monday." THERE WERE 3 LIVES LOST. 3 beautiful, intelligent, determined young adults who were just trying to better their lives by going to college. 5 ARE IN CRITICAL CONDITION. There are 5 courageous and strong students in critical condition... he is the one to blame. The whole campus is grieving and gray. This coward couldn't even wait for the police to get to him before he turned his "protection" on himself. I hope this beast is rotting in hell.
Wait, is that not something you already have? I live In the UK, and I worked in a bank. I saw a firearms license (for a shotgun) maby once in all that time. And I'm like 90% we could use that for all forms of ID I stead of the three we would normally require because it was so throughly background checked I guess I asked there would be all sorts of process to get a gun in America. Tons of proof of address, insurance, ID, like a car? Is that not the case?
Mandatory background checks and such have been a thing for several decades! The issue is him not being charged a felon that would have prevented him from legal acquiring a gun. On top of he would have been in prison at this time. The DA dropped his charges to a misdemeanor! A plea deal! He has had the cops called on his several times for firing his fun in his backyard which is illegal in Michigan it looks like.
The second amendment shall not be infringed. The permit is a tax on a constitutional right! That misdemeanor conviction also doesn’t prohibit him because any state misdemeanor Punishable by two years or less in state prison Recognized as a misdemeanor by federal law! His 2019 arrest should’ve never happened along with thousands of other people arrested for the same offense I am in no way condoning what he did at MSU! I’m only talking on the constitution and I am sick of the news
Second Amendment talk after every mass shooting true second amendment … let everyone over 18 be able to have any type gun they want and open carry for everyone and open carry everywhere , court rooms political events parades everywhere and let’s not let the politicians decline people being able to have weapons at political events the politicians feel safe because they have security most everywhere regular folks don’t …see how that works out , you think it’s the wild Wild West now .
An assault weapon control proposal. Add a check-box on the tax forms: Do you support high capacity magazines and public consumption of assault rifles. If you check the box you pay $5 per dead adult and $10 per child murdered in a mass shooting per fiscal year. (And put all republicans on a call list to clean-up the dead bodies and mop-up the blood and body parts, and inform the families of their dead loved ones.)
You realize that people wouldn’t be dead or running for their lives if they had the means to protect themselves. Sure their will always be shootings but restricting good peoples rights will only cause higher death rates. It’s proven time and time again. How many examples do you want? The police will protect you so you won’t need protection right? Texas school shootings…….. cops didn’t protect the kids. They actually stop the parents that were armed that wanted to save their kids and will regret trusting the wrong people. What would prevent someone from shooting you or your family? The fear of you calling police on them or the fear that you, your wife, the guy standing at the corner or anyone else in sight could and probably is carrying a firearm. Running is not the answer to evil, level the playing field and stand up to it is. Don’t expect someone to do it for you, certain things you have to do for yourself otherwise you will just end up being upset. The police’s response to the shooting was hide in dirty cloths. How many people shot? Meh that’s not bad we will take that and if you need to talk to someone we have a program your insurance will probably cover most of it.
He was just coming from the library..studying for his law degree, after donating all his money to the local orphanage. Trying to get to church..when these racist officers stopped his path of righteousness to harass and detain him, he did do nuffin!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
How long do they keep these videos?
20 years in my state.
@@cowboyx9380 90 days
Scary hearing the voice of someone who went on to kill innocent young adults just a few years later
It’s not scary
We hear the voice of murderous cops all the time
@@EyesWideOpenTruthbruh
@@EyesWideOpenTruth 😐
Just imagine if the da had believed that criminals belong in prison.
Ingram county prosecutor not DA, but yes fuck that bitch
@@jakobgreenman The da had to approve.
May he rot in hell
Senseless violence
Background checks are essential - this was a disaster waiting to happen.
He got probation folks is this unreal?? I hope the families sue the heck out of the justice system immediately
Even if he was convicted of a felony. Probation would have still been on the table as punishment. Probation is handed out way more than you would think.
Michigan has soft on crime liberals running the state. They love it when these things happen. Now, they can stand on their graves and push gun control.
@@mrpickles3454 all states have soft on crime DAs.
It makes being a law abiding citizen unfair in my honest opinion! I have a clean record, domestic violence survivor, retired school bus driver, CPL holder for my personal safety.
I got my gun the legal way, took a class for my CPL too and I target practice at the range when ammo is available
It was illegal for him to have any firearms. Cops were called multiple times to his father's house because he was shooting in the backyard. The cops know he's not allowed to have guns. And did nothing. Every single time they drop the ball and call for taking your natural rights away (which is the real point).
Some states don’t require permission to conceal carry. 🤠
What inspired this interaction?
Not liking people that shoot heroin that like mike tyson. Real deal is better with 5,000 on it.
@GlassPipe Biden constitution exists then legal competition. Why? British guy made the country that way.
Stage one of his MK style servitude?
Sounds about right
I feel like I understand what's in his 3 page document already... and it pales in comparison to what I would have to say. But it's just as well to say nothing, and just do.
🚩🚩🚩
I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society.
Their peaceful and generous nature makes them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture.
Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people.
Real estate values are fueled by the mix of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature.
Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation
I’m hoping this isn’t a diss. But if it isn’t thank you. I just know people will jump at the fact the shooter was black. Which is completely unfair being that Parkland, Buffalo, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook we’re all white men. Respect ❤
bull crap, I lived around my own people and got my stuff broken into and lawnmower stolen off my porch. when I lived around other races had no issues.
There is good and bad in every race but in all honesty this has nothing to do with race and more to do with lazy Prosecutors and Politicians and mental health .
@vespasianflavius8778 that's like saying it would be even better if we had more people like Bryan Christopher Kohberger or even Michael Haight around to make us feel safe and secure in our everyday lives 😑
@@mr.google9248 there is far more violence coming from one side compared to the other side even with mass shooters.
you seems off
The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of deaths from gun violence in the world. In 2019, the country had only about .04 deaths per 100,000 people. That’s compared to 3.96 for the U.S. in the same year.
United States - 37,038 Gun Death, United Kingdom 2016: 107
Japan boasts a population of more than 127 million people, yet finished 2019 with a gun death rate of only .02 per 100,000 people. One major factor in this success is that Japan has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world.
The Gun industry is no different than the oil and cigarette companies, we know they are deadly but there's too much money and power behind it to stop it so the government just gets their share through taxing it.
Okay, so give us the stats on your knife deaths and knife crime egh? 🤣🤔
Japan has honor suicides. India has suicides if you lose your job or house.
There's something off about him
Same bike from the msu shooting
Another Prosecutor giving someone a break.... THIS BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS
Restorative justice will fix this
Hahaha more of the same then
Funny how it’s a cause-solve problem, no?
@@NoahBodze Does there need to be a cause analysis as long as offender and victim mediate a solution
@@Gauge1LiveSteam My point was they cause problems and pretend to solve the problems they cause with other people’s money.
Everyone knows who built this country and who’s destroying it.
@@NoahBodze I'm with you on this. I'm being sarcastic about the mental logic gymnastics people go through
Did you vote straight democrat in past MI elections, or for Carol Siemons specifically? If so, you are to blame for the MSU shooting.
Carol Siemon (the democrat prosecutor) was directly responsible for pleading down his felony gun charge that should have barred him from owning/purchasing firearms, and he would've gone to jail for 2-5 years.
Her goal was to reduce 'racial disparities' by making it a policy to reduce the number of felony gun possession charges. the exact charge you are seeing in this body cam footage.
Leftist democrat policies that are soft on crime and hyper-focused on race are to blame for criminals walking free here in lansing, and across the country.
Bruh! The police should’ve arrested him! I swear- ugh!! 🤦♀️🤬
I watch this stuff for learning and this is horrible
Wow
Hoax
When shit hits the fan, and it will, black lives will matter in a different way.
Control that environment from 40-60 especially without being able to put laws in it.
The criminal should have been neutralized on sight on this encounter. If he officer had done his job, the victims that this street thug killed would still be alive.
He should have been in jail. Cops should have done their jobs. Law enforcement fails and the gov is attempting to punish you. See how this works?
You are aware that our law enforcement was made for civilized people, not the 82% of shooters in this country who are black men.
When are you going to isolate the variable? The data is discoverable.
Cops didnt fail you clown! The libtard DA reduced his charges!
@@cowboyx9380Incorrect. They were called to where he lived several times on account of him firing weapons in the backyard. They know who he was and that it was illegal for him to have firearms. He wasn't arrested any of those times. They failed to do their jobs. The shooter walked four miles over 3 hours without being apprehended. The only reason there aren't many more dead is because the shooter decided not to. Not because of cops did a "great job". Three hours. Uvalde. Didn't go in until the shooting stopped (children). Pulse. Didn't go in until the shooting stopped. Cops will not save you and have no responsibility to do so. These are facts.
You’re second comment is correct. They took hours to respond to MSD Parkland shooting in my county in florida.
They let it happen because they were payed to. The common shooting response time is 1-3 minutes. HOURS? k
@@karllager2214 The facts which you speak are NOT facts…just libtard parroting….ill bet you never even read the SCOTUS case on police responsibilities….you just parrot internet spew like a tard!
This man used a weapon, he claimed was for "protection", to mercilessly kill 3, critically injuring 5, and severely traumatize over 50,000 students in a place we call home. There are no words for what happened on Monday. As a current MSU student, I can't even begin to describe the emotions everyone who was on campus is feeling. Being in an apartment steps away from one of the buildings where students' lives were taken way too soon by this evil being gives me a sense of guilt. There were students in the classrooms who witnessed it all, and one selflessly used their clothing to help stop the bleeding of another student. Some students saw white sheets placed over the victims. Some students are told to "be ready for class at Berky/The Union on Monday." THERE WERE 3 LIVES LOST. 3 beautiful, intelligent, determined young adults who were just trying to better their lives by going to college. 5 ARE IN CRITICAL CONDITION. There are 5 courageous and strong students in critical condition... he is the one to blame. The whole campus is grieving and gray. This coward couldn't even wait for the police to get to him before he turned his "protection" on himself. I hope this beast is rotting in hell.
Yea ok. Im glad individualism exists in your state still.
@@LifeDeathNewForm you sound like a weak azz punk boi😾
@Lexi hang in there girl! It be ok hun💪😽✌️
@@Tiger-From-Clemson sure. Constitution exists then legal competition.
@johnsutton8572 what are you even talking about
I am so proud of msu police i forgive you for all the parking tickets
🤣🤣
Please vote for mandatory background checks, everyone
Wait, is that not something you already have? I live In the UK, and I worked in a bank. I saw a firearms license (for a shotgun) maby once in all that time. And I'm like 90% we could use that for all forms of ID I stead of the three we would normally require because it was so throughly background checked
I guess I asked there would be all sorts of process to get a gun in America. Tons of proof of address, insurance, ID, like a car?
Is that not the case?
Mandatory background checks and such have been a thing for several decades! The issue is him not being charged a felon that would have prevented him from legal acquiring a gun. On top of he would have been in prison at this time. The DA dropped his charges to a misdemeanor! A plea deal! He has had the cops called on his several times for firing his fun in his backyard which is illegal in Michigan it looks like.
Assasins creed gone viral
How d u tell d non zombie from d zombie? Not til it 2 late
Violation of the 2nd amendment
Remember othal Wallace
The second amendment shall not be infringed.
The permit is a tax on a constitutional right!
That misdemeanor conviction also doesn’t prohibit him because any state misdemeanor
Punishable by two years or less in state prison
Recognized as a misdemeanor by federal law!
His 2019 arrest should’ve never happened along with thousands of other people arrested for the same offense
I am in no way condoning what he did at MSU!
I’m only talking on the constitution and I am sick of the news
Bingo
If he hurt folks then he has no rights
@@timmartinez9901 you're missing the point right now.
You second amendment gun nuts will answer to god on judgment day. Hope you like hot, REAL HOT!
Second Amendment talk after every mass shooting true second amendment … let everyone over 18 be able to have any type gun they want and open carry for everyone and open carry everywhere , court rooms political events parades everywhere and let’s not let the politicians decline people being able to have weapons at political events the politicians feel safe because they have security most everywhere regular folks don’t …see how that works out , you think it’s the wild Wild West now .
False flag
An assault weapon control proposal. Add a check-box on the tax forms:
Do you support high capacity magazines and public consumption of assault rifles.
If you check the box you pay $5 per dead adult and $10 per child murdered in a mass shooting per fiscal year.
(And put all republicans on a call list to clean-up the dead bodies and mop-up the blood and body parts, and inform the families of their dead loved ones.)
You realize that people wouldn’t be dead or running for their lives if they had the means to protect themselves. Sure their will always be shootings but restricting good peoples rights will only cause higher death rates. It’s proven time and time again. How many examples do you want? The police will protect you so you won’t need protection right? Texas school shootings…….. cops didn’t protect the kids. They actually stop the parents that were armed that wanted to save their kids and will regret trusting the wrong people. What would prevent someone from shooting you or your family? The fear of you calling police on them or the fear that you, your wife, the guy standing at the corner or anyone else in sight could and probably is carrying a firearm. Running is not the answer to evil, level the playing field and stand up to it is. Don’t expect someone to do it for you, certain things you have to do for yourself otherwise you will just end up being upset. The police’s response to the shooting was hide in dirty cloths. How many people shot? Meh that’s not bad we will take that and if you need to talk to someone we have a program your insurance will probably cover most of it.
As long as you are willing to pay $100 for every fentanyl overdose for being weak on the border. 190+ per day.
He used a handgun
Why Republicans? This guy is a dem, 99% of mass shooters are dems…maybe you libtards should clean up your own messes?
Not an assault weapon a habdgun
The usual suspect
A p.o.s? Or retarded?
He was just coming from the library..studying for his law degree, after donating all his money to the local orphanage. Trying to get to church..when these racist officers stopped his path of righteousness to harass and detain him, he did do nuffin!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
conceal carry permits are used to criminalize black gun owners, who are denied permits when they apply.
Probably because they have criminal backgrounds 🤔
Wow