(DISOWNED)Everything Wrong With Charriii5’s EWW Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2021
- Paper Jam is currently the final original Mario & Luigi game, and I’m probably one of the few people that doesn’t think it’s the worst game in the series. Sure, it’s not great, but no way in hell is it bad. What is bad is Charriii’s video about it. Not only are almost all of his points wrong but there are also editing mistakes all over the place. The whole thing is just a big mess, and it almost feels like he WANTED to end the series with a whimper instead of a bang. Sure, this reflects how people view Paper Jam, but that’d be like if his Sonic 06 video was filled with constant screen flickering, subtitles not appearing when they should, and the timer deciding to give up and freeze halfway through. Well, since he clearly didn’t care enough, I guess it’s our job to pick up the slack.
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Thanks for joining me on this month long series. It was fun while it lasted. If you want to know how I'd rank the quality of Charriii5's videos from worst to best, here's the list:
EWW Partners in Time
EWW Paper Jam (barely)
EWW Dream Team
EWW Superstar Saga
EWW Bowser's Inside Story
My ranking is the same as my ranking of the games themselves which from worst to best is Paper Jam, Partners in Time, Dream Team, Superstar Saga, Bowser's Inside Story.
Hey question I made top 20 Favorite Boss Themes I was interested if you want to check them out up to you
I can agree with your list also if this is how you handle this video I think you will love and hate charriii5 everything wrong with super smash bros brawl and his everything wrong with puyo puyo tetris videos.
@@typhlodenxyz my video list? If your talking about that well thanks for watching
Wow nice
Y'know I'm kinda starting to agree with chariii5
Luigi needs a freaking break!!
I know it's a running gag, but that kinda needs to stop
I feel like Tony hates Luigi as much as the series does 🤦🏻♀️
Agreed. Bis and Pj is where I draw the line of the whole Luigi bash.
I’m agreeing with Charriii5 too.
As much as I hate to admit it I agree with charii5 this time Nintendo and alphadream stop hating luigi.
THANK YOU for you comment about Paper Luigi! Every review says, "It sucks that you couldn't play as Paper Luigi!" and my reply is "Paper Luigi was never playable in the Paper Mario games except in Super Paper Mario, and even then he's a late entry!"
Well Chariii’s EVW parodies aren’t reviews, moreso satirical videos that poke fun at games
fun fact, the whole "it would be akward to manage 4 buttons at once" thing is the entire reason they axed paper luigi from paper jam
All 5 videos were purely amazing and I enjoyed all of them. Favourite video was partners in time loved the big rant in the end. Thank you for doing this! Amazing work to you and dark Tony.
This was actually the first M&L game I ever played. It got me into the series so I don’t hate it as much as some other people do. Plus the battle system is probably the best it’s ever been. Although I do understand why other may not like it due to it not having any original characters from either series and the overall plot of just two Bowser’s being evil is lackluster, but it’s still not a bad game. And it definitely has its moments.
14:32 With how much of Starlow's character centers around dunking Luigi at most opportunities, you probably should have upgraded Starlow-based sins to Characterization sins.
In retrospect, maybe I should have.
Honestly I don't like the gag. I just feel bad luigi
@@Absol7701 The gag was overused to the nth degree. Everyone who plays these games loves Luigi and would prefer to see him respected by more people than just Mario and occasionally Peach.
Yes but it kinda ruinds the game if you got to bash on lugi a main character every time its annoying even if its characterisation, so i agree with charriii5 on this
It's fun to go back to these 5 videos because it's when Tony's channel really started to grow ;)
That was a fun video to watch also see ya in next video
Also really I knew he was going to mention the final boss and I wonder why dark Bowser was not mentioned but the other final Bosses ok wow
4:55 he could have had given you items or maybe it could’ve been a side mode where Paper Luigi goes through adventures with the Y button
True.
14:39 on this, I DO have to agree with Charii. MAN, was this gag dead on arrival and it only got more rancid from there. And quite frankly I HATE character types like Starlow. It real deal makes me want to just squash her like a bug.
The whole point with this gag was to show how people view Luigi in comparison to Mario. Besides, Luigi has his moments in several games.
Partners in Time: The Star Door apologizes to Luigi for making him feel worthless and admits that Luigi is a very capable person. After defeating Elder Princess Shroob, several Toads cheer for Luigi and give him the credit he deserves.
Bowser's Inside Story: Starlow apologizes to Luigi after insulting him. Granted, Mario had to defend him, but that's their whole dynamic in general.
Dream Team: At the start of the Giant Bowser battle, instead of acting scared like he's done every other time, he steels himself and stands with Mario in confidence against Bowser. Starlow even encourages him in the real world.
Paper Jam: At the end, both of the Princess' kiss Luigi as a reward for saving the kingdom.
That's the reason this gag works. It makes Luigi's best moments even better, and it's the people who ignore that who are in the wrong.
@@tonysonic456
Oh, I know exactly what the entire point of the gag was. Trust me, my man Luigi has all the respect put on his name from my end of the perspective. If you can believe it, Luigi’s character and his accomplishments here is a major inspiration for many of my own characters that I write, both in novel form and video game form. Make no mistake, I have played these games and loved the moments when Luigi was acknowledged and just had respect put on his name. Having said this:
1. This is just one of the many problems I have with Starlow as a character. I don’t like Starlow as a character in general, and her treatment of Luigi (gag or otherwise) is a major facet of why.
2. With perception and understanding did NOT empathy and enjoyment come. Not with this gag. I didn’t find this gag funny the first time it was played, and I just do not find this gag funny upon repeat number however.
@@romanvalentine1629 Humor is rather subjective. Luigi being insulted might not be funny, but physical abuse can be a little funny like at the start of Dream Team when he attempted to jump onto the blimp but ended up jumping out into the air. In the end, the Luigi abuse does serve a purpose, and it's one of the reasons people love Luigi so much. Plus, Starlow has complimented and apologized to him every now and then. That being said, they have drained this gag dry. Hopefully, should a Mario & Luigi 6 happen, they stop.
@@tonysonic456
If a Mario and Luigi 6 happens, Luigi needs his own fan-club and an acknowledgement that year of Luigi’s fiscal failure really ISNT Luigi’s fault.
@@romanvalentine1629 That’s a great idea. I just hope that whoever replaces AlphaDream thinks of it too.
I am so excited for this video
Everything wrong with the video:
Sin 3: Oh, so it's bad for Charriii to nitpick but okay for you to nitpick? Hypocrisy at it's finest. +1 sin. (1)
Sin 4: Yeah, same here. In fact, I'm going to elaborate this time. Yes it's a running gag, but it's the quality of said running gag that makes it sinful or not. Luigi's torture running gags are as about the same quality as the Meg torture gags in Family Guy. Cringe and unfunny. And since this has happened five times already this is the last Mario and Luigi video, your getting ten sins. +10 sins. (11)
Sin 7: Okay, I'm not as pissed as I should be, but I'm still pissed. I don't think you genuinely understand Charriii's format (or the general CinimaSins format for that matter) and that these are supposed to be parodies. If you don't appreciate the sex jokes, you can either quite watching his content, or learn to appreciate it. If this happens again, I'm giving you more than one sin. +1 sin. (12)
Sin 8: Are you going to mention Super Paper Mario? No? Very well. +1 sin. (13)
Sin 9: While I see your point, it would still be nice to have him in the story even if he can't be a playable character. Also, do you just really hate Luigi or something? I mean, you defend the Luigi torture gags and even admitted that you didn't want him in Paper Jam's story? What's your beef with the green dude? Or are you lacking in beef? Either way, sinful. +1 sin. (14)
Also, before we move on, what was that?
4:41 Did you just stutter your lines? Tony sins errors yet continues to make them cliche. +1 sin. (15)
Sin 10: I was going to let this slide, but you too assume that these are serious points without stopping to think that they are jokes. Hypocrisy at it's finest. +1 sin. (16)
Sin 11: I get that. I don't know why fourth wall breaks are sins. -1 sin. (15)
Sin 12: Okay, I'm going to say this now and I want you to keep this in mind. Whenever Charriii or one of his collab partners makes a pop culture reference, it's for comedy purposes and is not sinning the game. If this ever happens again, Ima be pissed. +1 sin. (16)
Sin 13/14: Tony is a hypocrite. +2 sins. (18)
Sin 24: Sinning this joke. That's worth these many sins. +10 sins. (28)
Also, calling Charriii a pervert earns you an extra five. Well done. +5 sins. (33)
Sin 25: Yeah well these are parodies and people like them! +1 sin. (34)
Sin 26: So you call Bowser smart, yet you call him dumb in you BiS video. Do you think he's smart or do you think he's dumb? It can't be both! +1 sin. (35)
Sin 28: Tony forces his opinion on others cliche. +1 sin. (36)
Sin 31: *JJJ laugh* Okay, the reason why I find this funny instead of rage inducing is that you don't seem to understand at all that these are parodies. You sin jokes and take everything at face value. And adding to that, you barely make any jokes in your videos, and when you do, they are either biased, tasteless, or borderline twisted. (see his SA1 video for more information) So I'll just say this, you can either accept Charriii's videos for what they are (EWW parodies) or just stop watching his content. I'm only going to give you one sin this time, but only because you unintentionally made me laugh. +1 sin. (37)
And in regards to the sin itself, it's not really worth thinking too much about, but it's still pretty weird. Also, I'm going to be a lot more pissed about this later, BUT YOU SIN CHARRIII FOR SINNING TYPOS! You can't eat your cake and have it too! Just look in a mirror already! +6 sins. (43)
Sin 33: Except said lightning didn't launch him into the air. Damn, you must really hate Luigi. +1 sin. (44)
Sin 34: "Oh my god! Who the hell cares?!" +1 sin. +1 sin. (45)
Sin 35: That's a good point. -1 sin. (44)
Sin 37: Tony, that wasn't the sin and you fucking know it. He was talking about how Mario and Luigi didn't send only Paper Mario. Who weighs a lot less than they do. Also, Tony insults Charriii. And adding to that, dingas? Really? You couldn't think of a better insult? +1 sin. (45)
Sin 38: So you're implying that Paper Mario is Mr. Fantastic just because he isn't normal paper? +1 sin. (46)
Sin 39: *sigh* The point of CinimaSins content is to be nitpicky! Why don't you get that?! +1 sin. (47)
Sin 40: AGAIN WITH THE LUIGI SLANDER?! From now on, you're getting five sins every time you hate on Luigi. +5 sins. (52)
Sin 41: Another solid point. -1 sin. (51)
Sin 43: Alright that's it. I'm going to give you ten sins everytime you sin an error because YOU MAKE THEM TOO! +10 sins. (61)
Sin 44: That pun in particular wasn't funny with the joke being explained. To quote from the Joker: "If you have to explain a joke, there is no joke!" +1 sin. (62)
Sin 45: It still comes out of nowhere. +1 sin. (63)
Sin 48: A Sticker Star lover I see? That doesn't excuse the similarities the two games have. You're just pulling stuff out of your ass. +1 sin. (64)
Sin 49: I'm not going to repeat myself. See above. +10 sins. (74)
Sin 51: If you mean a smaller circular item, that IS BIGGER THAN MARIO. Then yeah. Also, Tony insults Charriii. +1 sin. (75)
Sin 52: Did any of what you said mean anything? All Charriii was saying is that Paper Mario can be easily exploited in situations like this. What led you to believe that he has terrible gaming skills? He probably purposefully let Mario and Luigi die to get footage of this! Common sense! +1 sin. (76)
Sin 53: Oh and you refuse to give Luigi a break?! +1 sin. (77)
Sin 54: Another solid point. -1 sin. (76)
Sin 55: It's still a glitch even if he purposefully activated it. +1 sin. (77)
Sin 60: It's still lazy reusing a castle name from a prior game. +1 sin. (78)
Sin 61: See above. And I'll give you a few extra sins for making this a cliche. +15 sins. (93)
Sin 62: Tony insults Charriii. +1 sin. (94)
Sin 64: Well he hates Starlow because she always hates on Luigi. Is that so hard to believe? Oh yeah, you hate Luigi too. +1 sin. (95)
Sin 67: Tony sins jokes yet continues to make them cliche. +1 sin. (96)
Sin 68: See above. +10 sins. (106)
Sin 69: Tony sins jo- +1 sin. (107)
Sin 70: Okay so? It's still sinful. +1 sins. (108)
Sin 170: I-I don't know where to start with this. Charriii wasn't sinning the Shiny RoboBowser fight, the Paper Mario series, or the Mario and Luigi series as a whole. He was sinning the game's broken combat system and that Paper Mario is either extremely OP or just doesn't contribute much to certain battles. How does this contribute to Charriii not being a Mario and Luigi fan? This has got to be the most childish and immature rant that I have ever seen. Fifty sins and moving on. +50 sins. (158)
Sin 171: So you just made something up and count it as a sin? +1 sin. (159)
Total Sin Count: 159
Sentence: And you thought Road to India was a bad ending to a series.
Well thank you for pointing out 170. Looks like I got something else to tear into later
@@DShy96 you want to know what makes me laugh? I think in every single final boss that charriii struggles with, he tries WAY too hard in trying to defend it. Like, I don't think it's 06 levels of bad, but my God, this rant was ridiculous. Apparently, by his logic, if you or charriii have a complaint with the final bosses in these games, then you're not a fan. Really? So if I don't have fun with ANY of these bosses, that means I can't be a fan or don't get enjoyment from this series? This is like the EPITOME of shoving an opinion down peoples throats.
@@earlrice8095 Are you agreeing with Tony or disagreeing with him?
@@DShy96 I 110% disagree with Tony. I'm just rewatching his mario and luigi dream team video and he overly defends it WAY too much. Even though he is fully aware that people don't like the gyro or one of the giant fights is hit or miss, he proceeds to slam chaarriii and others for not being as good as him, or say some shit like, "the gyro controls worked just fine for me." Like it's a sin for not having an easy experience like him. Yet he wants to get on Charriii for stating his opinions as facts on certain things, when he literally does it TWICE. and what's worse is that people agree with charriiii, too. He seriously only thinks about his own feelings. I understand that the experience may differ for everyone, but if tony is trying to act unbiased, this is not the way to go about it. If anything, instead of trying to critique charriii, he should actually LEARN from charriii. For example, in sonic 06, while charriii managed to beat the ball puzzle on his first try, he Still gave the game a sin for having a bullshit puzzle that most people agreed sucked ass. He's being fair. He did have his own opinion, but charriii handled it in a mature and non biased fashion, something that tony never seems to do. In other words, he takes others' feelings into account.
If you not good with controls why are complaining over it also it’s just one sin
23:40 this part was my favorite and was hilarious
ruclips.net/video/M26wmKY-e3I/видео.html
Oh bullshit!
@@ultimatebrawlers64 YOU'RE bullshit!
@@ultimatebrawlers64your bullshit!
Your opinion on superstar saga is how I feel about paper jam because it's your normal mario game but with paper mario characters in it smh.
I’ve recently discovered your channel and I must say its a little underrated.
Also someday when Charriii does Paper Mario the origami king, will you be doing Eww videos on the paper Mario series?
Not for a good while because I have something big planned for next year. Rest assured, I will do them someday maybe even with another RUclipsr.
I'm pretty sure the book the paper characters were yeeted from was the same book that told the "Story" of sticker star.
Do you ever consider the fact that charriii messes up the subtitles on purpose for comedic effect, or when it's one of those scenarios where someone says something so fast that you don't understand because they didn't want you to hear it
Sometimes it is, but other times, it feels like a genuine mistake. Plus, he’s willing to put subtitles for him sighing but not saying actual sentences.
I guess you have a point
Still doesn’t convince me
I think he does deviate sometimes, but I’m pretty sure he just put the script there.
12:49
To be fair, he wears glasses like you do
But his writing of that sin of stupidity of not noticing triggers me though
So
TonySonic: 489 Charriii5: 0.5
2:08
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Would YOU like to be disrespected by a talking sassy ball? No of course bot
The Luigi gag is used the 5 time in a row
Hey Tonysonic, why their no EWW mario videos, I want to see your reaction and opinion on what Charriii say in those videos?
Any plans to do his videos on Paper Mario
I agree, I did like the Toad missions. Although there was one I hated, and it's the one where you have to get the toads down from up high by smashing rocks with your hammer. And it's really just puzzling.
Yeah, that one kind of sucked, especially on hard mode, but at least the rest were fun.
@@tonysonic456 Yeah, and though Paper Jam is kinda my least favorite Mario & Luigi game that does not mean I hate it at all. I enjoyed nearly everything, my only complaint is the fact that AlphaDream had to hold themselves back with the creativity. But other than that, it's still a great game that deserves to be in this series.
You've sinned. The subtitles so many times but when he sins the same kind of issue more than once that's know a sin
Underrated.
"No subtitles"
Says the guy has no subtitles throughout their entire video.
Charriii has subtitles throughout all of his videos. I haven’t done subtitles once. If he’s going to have them, then he should make sure they’re properly edited.
@@tonysonic456 Well, with the amount of times he left them out, _specifically_ for Logan's cut-in, makes me feel like it's an intentional choice to leave them out at those parts.
@@EsmeraldaTGG And yet he included subtitles for Logan going “Yeeeeeeeeep” and himself sighing.
@@tonysonic456 Yeah, probably 'cause it was written in the script and would've made a lot less sense otherwise, given that the sin was phrased as a question and not a statement.
Pretty sure the rest of Logan's lines were ad-libbed. (I.E. not in the script, rather an outtake that Charriii left in to spruce up the video. Which is something he does a lot, in case ya didn't know.)
The fact that you went as far as to call it an "improper editing cliché" rather than a conscious choice in the editing,
is a little bit odd to me.
@@EsmeraldaTGG Because that’s what I assumed it was. I can see your side of it, but they don’t make that clear. Even so, they should be consistent with the subtitles.
6:45 I get the feeling the lack of subtitles for Logan’s reaction was intentional for once
10:53 same here
2:03 I am sure he understands the gag but why are they mean to luigi there is no reason to
They poke fun at him because they don’t respect him to the degree they do Mario. Granted, at this point, they should be giving him a little more respect which they do at several points, but if there is a Mario & Luigi 6, I’m sure this is the last time.
You sir are the best eww even better than gaming sins
If there's ONE thing that makes this video better than his Partners in Time video, what would it be?
It's mostly the fact that there isn't any "I hate this fight because of my one terrible playthrough" nonsense.
Which Charriii5 video are you going to sin next?
Watch my video on the Mario & Luigi finales, and you’ll find out.
30:03 Okay, where is the proof that Fawful's Minion threatened Charriii in regards to sinning the Dark Bowser fight in Bowser's Inside Story? You can't just throw accusations against other RUclipsrs without proof of what you say. Your argument regarding Logan threatening Charriii doesn't have a leg to stand on as you just seemingly made that up for dramatic effect. I could be wrong and there might be proof, but if there is proof, show it in the video when you talk about it.
Also, this is a problem I have with all five of your videos on him with the Mario & Luigi series, you assume that Charriii hates the final bosses anytime he does a "F this fight" sin. Back in your Partners in Time video where you brought up his KH3 ReMind video, he said that whenever he does one of those types of sins, he makes sure the community agrees it is a hard fight. He never said anything about hating the fight just because it is hard. You're reading way too much into subtext that isn't there.
And before you say I'm being a 'toxic fan,' I'm not. I'm just trying to calmly point out errors in your own videos. Just because you mastered the Mario & Luigi series does not mean that you are perfect. Everyone makes mistakes and whenever one does make a mistake, they deserve to be called out on it, no matter how popular they are. It's good that you want to help clarify the mistakes Charriii makes in his videos, but you get WAY too hostile and angry at him for things that are ultimately subjective. Just calm down, stop insulting his skill level and don't be so uptight when talking about his videos.
Okay, first of all, the whole "Logan threatened Charriii" bit was for dramatic effect only. I wasn't making an accusation. Second of all, he does hate hard fights. It's literally right in the phrase. You only say, "F*k this fight!" if you hate it, and almost every single time he says it, his tone and words convey nothing but anger and hatred towards the fight he's sinning. The only other time outside of his early videos which haven't aged well is funnily enough in the KH3 ReMind video where for a few of the fights he said "Kind of f*k this fight" which insinuates that he only sort of hates or at least doesn't like it. "Oh, he's just doing that for comedic effect." Okay, AND? It's not like literally every other RUclipsr doesn't act like this whenever they talk about something they hate. Even beyond their sometimes exaggerated anger, they still very much hate what they're talking about, and the same applies here. He even admitted as much in his Color Splash video. I appreciate that you at least are trying to provide some constructive criticism, but I look through these things before writing the scripts for these videos. More often than not, I know what I'm talking about.
3:02 Come on, this got me good! 🤣
Btw how would we collob if I ever do one because I have alot of work on my plate
Well, I don't plan on covering the Paper Mario series for quite a while; so we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. For now, my email is in the About section of my channel if you want to contact me.
I liked this game. At its core, it’s still Mario & Luigi, and the added bonus of Paper Mario really adds some creative ideas!
Even though this game is my least favorite in the series, I still like it. That ending also made me laugh as well. I still do think he is a mario and luigi fan though. I also like in your outro where you said "you didn't exist yet, not even the console" even though we probably think that origami king was so much fun. I hope in 2022 you can do eww charii5 hotel mario. That would be funny.
Since you finished the mario and Luigi series, do you plan on doing charriii's paper mario series as well?
Yes I do. Next year in April with a partner in fact.
@@tonysonic456 is that partner omegablackheart?
@@earlrice8095 No, it's someone else.
@@tonysonic456 since 45, as much as I agree with you, the way you phrased it sounds a little fucked up. It makes the princesses sound dickish, but I guess that's how the running gag goes. Luigi is the Meg Griffin of the mario and Luigi series. Damn. What a horrible punishment to our hero. I kind of want to give him a hug.
What exactly is the strongest Bros. Attack in Paper Jam? Ypu said the strongest Bros. Attack can do up to 400 damage with Lucky hits, but I don't know what said Bros. Attack is.
I forget the name, but it’s the one where Luigi grows giant.
@@tonysonic456 Is it Mega Thwonk?
@@greninjamariokartpokemonfan I think that’s it.
when are you gonna cut it off TonySonic the premiere
Well, Paper Luigi's adventures in the Waffle Kingdom did become a quintology of best-selling books and possibly even a movie, so it taking place in a different country isn't really an excuse.
Also, about the "no subtitles" thing - most of the time it seems to be intentional, as the parts without subtitles are usually more like extra comments rather than actual parts of the sin (and are mostly made by Logan). Then again, they did put subtitles for Logan saying "Eyyup" and Chariii sighing, so who knows
That’s our point when we sin Charriii for not showing subtitles. He so inconsistent with what he shows and what he doesn’t.
@@tonysonic456 and you don’t show your subtitles because? 🙄
Yeah so I actually finished Paper Jam now because I never did before but now I did so heres my new ranking, Superstar Saga, Partners in Time, Paper Jam, Bowser Inside Story, and Dream Team
No actually i take it back Paper Jam, Partners in Time, Superstar Saga, Bowser’s Inside Story and Dream Team
The Forgotten Sins:
3:39 and also the fact that 3D Luigi actually saved the world 4 times before if we just stick to the mario and luigi series, not once
7:47 Also, Paper Mario 64, M&L Dream Team, and M&L Bowser's Inside Story
13:00 And also you can just roll a peice of paper kind of diagonally and then push the tip up to the base so that it becomes a paper rolled straight and then you got a paper roll that can stretch
Mail toad more like drop the mail toad because he messes up his mail delivery’s lol
When calling out. Charriii for not even being a proper mario and luigi fan you were too kind he should gotten 2000 sins
I think that would've blown up the sin counter.
Charriii5’s EWW Paper Mario 64, Thousand-Year Door, SPM, Sticker Star, Color Splash and The Origami King, please?
That’ll be next year.
12:53
Not only could Paper Mario do that alone, the sides themselves don't have holes, so Paper Mario could just walk across.
my ranking Mario & green guy games
7: SuperStar Saga (gba)
6: Dream Team
5: SuperStar Saga (3ds)
4: Partners in Time
3: Paper Jam
2: Bowser’s Inside Story (3ds)
1: Bowser’s Inside Story (DS)
why am i getting birdman vibes from this?
Because he's actually my inspiration for doing these videos.
@@tonysonic456awesome
Hey tony will u do charri’s sly cooper videos
I’d have to buy a PS3 just to play them, but I’ll consider doing them.
The adding 10 sins makes sense liek why would Nintendo allow this like at 6:55
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or Charriii. If you're agreeing with me, thanks, but if you're agreeing with Charriii, that was a blatant misinterpretation just to get a cringe sex joke.
It was for you
Like really Nintendo at best only did jokes with conkers game with rare if I could remember hearing about it and that’s mostly it unless proven worng
12:37 he very obviously clearly obviously clearly duh-like obviously very duh-like was talking about just sending one person.
Right?
Also the reason why they don't give "Logan?" Subtitles sometimes is cause I think it's supposed to be like one of those moments where like... You know how on RUclips videos, the creator will put text on the screen for like half a second? I think it's supposed to be like that
now that this Mario and luigi marathon is over I am going to rank the game (my opinion)
5. SuperStar Saga (SSS)
4. Paper jam (PJ) also I don't hate the game ether
3.dream team (DT)
2. Bowser's inside story (BIS)
1. Partners in time (PIT)
What do you think of the list?
Nice list. Even though most of the fans agree that no game in this series is bad, it's nice to see people that don't think Paper Jam is the worst game.
21:04 what he meant is that it was too easy to do, not like some frame perfect bugs
It doesn’t matter how easy it is to do. You still have to go out of your way to perform the glitch, and if that’s the case, it doesn’t count.
Not entirely sure what you mean by "fixing his mistakes" when this is mostly opinion based.
Well, I wouldn’t say that. While there is some opinion based stuff, it’s mostly fact-checking.
20:00 just wanna add if you do whirligig correctly, you can just one shot the boss, I know because I've done it on numerous playthroughs.
that was harsh man I'm already back
Ok this might be the last comment for a while but i just have to bring it up im almost positive the “editing mistakes in the subtitles” are intentional ok im done for now just had to say that
Maybe, but he also had subtitles for Logan saying "Eyuup" and Charriii sighing. If he's going to make subtitles for stuff like that, he should do it for the rest.
23:03 He does have a point when you think about it. I mean this game does use New Super Mario bros. locations.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the sin he made. Just because they both have "new" in the title doesn't mean anything.
And we are at the end of this series. Similar to you, I think that Paper Jam is a good game. It's my least favorite Mario & Luigi game, but I still enjoy it. Charriii's video however, was terrible. I thought about it, and it's my least favorite video of his. When I listed my sins with this video, it was rare for me to not counter two consecutive sins.
1:43: And the editing mistakes are starting early.
2:39: Wow, an actual reference to the classic Paper Mario games!
3:06: They never land. Also, I can't wait for your Undertale video.
5:53: I can't wait for your Undertale video. Also, I feel like the fact that I'm saying this twice can make me come off as sarcastic, but I'm not being sarcastic and I'm just taking jabs at Charriii's Undertale video.
6:32: LEGO Mario doesn't even take 3 hours.
6:51: It's better than how Charriii treated Papyrus.
7:57: I agree with what you said about villains be comic relief. Although some people complain when they have to take Bowser seriously because he got fat in Bowser's Inside Story. I'm not joking. I like when Bowser is funny, but I want to take him seriously to some extent.
8:51: Agreed, the Paper Toad Missions aren't that bad. Also, I'm pretty sure there was only one time where Logan actually wrote a line for himself, and that was when he called Charriii out on complaining about Dreamy Bowser.
13:25: Tapping someone on the shoulder actually does piss some people off.
19:34: What does Charriii have against Bros Attacks? Were the starting Bros Attacks in Partners in Time so bad that he stopped using them for the rest of the series?
21:04: According to gamers nowadays, a few glitches mean a game is broken.
23:42: And here's another example of one of your sins that made me laugh for 15 seconds when Charriii's didn't make me laugh at all.
26:35: Pokemon references are a cliche now? How many times did he make those?
28:44: This is the worst Charriii5 sin I have ever seen. Shiny RoboBowser is my 2nd favorite fight in any Mario RPG, only beaten by Dark Bowser so seeing Charriii look for any excuse to complain about this fight by completely misunderstanding the game design of both series pisses me off to no end. To somewhat quote you in your Partners in Time video "I'm going to say it: I hate this video. And now that I wrote my list of sins for this video, I'm glad that I never have to watch this disaster again." And for your video TS, I'm going to continue watching because I now have an actual good Paper Jam EWW to watch.
And my Mario & Luigi games ranking from worst to best is Paper Jam, Partners in Time, Dream Team, Superstar Saga, Bowser's Inside Story.
19:34: Considering that we see him use Bros. Attacks during the Shiny RoboBowser fight, I'd say he just doesn't know when to use them.
26:35: That's actually another gag among the three of us that do these kinds of videos. Anytime he makes a very specific reference, we sometimes replace "pop culture" with the source of the reference.
28:44: I'm actually sticking with my theory that Logan pulled a gun on Charriii when he was going to complain about Dark Bowser and the Dark Star Core. Not only is the image of that kind of funny but it would also make sense given Logan's love for BiS.
@@tonysonic456 19:34: Oh right I forgot about that.
26:35: 3 of you? Who are those 3?
28:44: That is hilarious. Although a more realistic version of that would be Logan wouldn't have collaborated with Charriii for that video and the videos after it if he complained about Dark Bowser. My theory is that not only was Logan against sinning Dark Bowser, but Charriii also realized that everyone in the comments section would hate his video if he sinned Dark Bowser, and he probably realized that because Logan told him, since Logan is an actual fan of the Mario & Luigi series to the point that all of the boss fight sins were done by Charriii. I'm trying to imagine what bullcrap Charriii would pull out of the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to complain about Dark Bowser.
@@An_Account1 26:35 Th3Birdman, OmegaBlackHeart, and yours truly. There were two others, Bobvids and Jay Exci, but they don't make anymore of those types of videos.
28:44 That theory's probably correct. Honestly, there's VERY little you can reasonably complain about involving Dark Bowser. Like, the MOST you can criticize about it is that Dark Bowser can be a little easy, and that In the Final does tend to loop a bit too much. But by that point, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for bad things.
@@tonysonic456 Yeah, that would be scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for things. Mario & Luigi games aren't exactly known for their difficulty and In The Final is still epic to the point where sinning that is nitpicky by Charriii's standards. If he could somehow get a full "F*ck this fight" out of that fight the viewers would send him to where he got those ideas from.
@@tonysonic456 And Charriii has finished his Mario RPG videos. Any thoughts on his Origami King video?
22:21 Well yeah but ther- wait why didn't they just make the whole cage solid?
That’s a whole other thing. I don’t know how practical that would be, having a cage that you can’t see inside.
@@tonysonic456 I mean yeah but if so Paper Peach couldn't escape
@@tonysonic456 or maybe use like unbreakable glass
@@susiehaltmann3342 Do you really think the Bowsers are smart enough to think of that? Besides, how would a completely solid cage even work?
@@tonysonic456 good point
23:41 ok I have three problems with this whole thing
One, what doesn’t make sense is that you sinned this because…you think he’s bullshit, which again why are you saying you like Charriiis content if in a few a your videos you basically say something rude to or about him, which doesn’t make a lot of sense
Two, you can’t sin this because you think he’s bullshit when in reality the situation Mario, Luigi, and the others are in looks and practically is bullshit
Three, this isn’t even a sin this is just either a rude comment or an opinion
Sorry I had to say this but I’m just extremely confused
I meant that as a joke, and judging from the reactions, it worked for most of them. Also, they’re bullshit for not believing in how cartoony Mario despite covering FIVE of these games now.
I must say I didn’t really like paper jam. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a bad game, but something about it just felt off to me, and a lot of the paper toad mini games kind of get tedious
Again, it’s a perfectly fine game, just not my cup of tea
I was in no way knowledgeable about any of the Paper Mario games. This was very interesting and it looks like a fun game. I hate all of his sex jokes too. They seem so unnecessary.
The only thing wrong with the video IMO is that not enough criticism went toward the generic story and characters. I feel like a minority in that being a major turn-off to the game for me (in fact, it was THE definitive turn-off that caused me to be so critical of the game). The core Mario cast & scenario isn't enough to hold an entry in the M&L or PM series imo, much fucking less a game that's branded as a COMBO of the two. Like it would be insulting if it was just a M&L entry, and it was incredibly insulting the several times it happened with a PM entry. But this has BOTH to live up to, so for it to be THE game to avoid the fanservice to their original ideas, just doubles the disappointment in my eyes. Yeah the gameplay is good but it's good in every M&L, that's kind of expected to me and can't hold a Mario RPG up by itself imo.
Nice hearing your view on Paper Jam. It makes sense why you feel this way. Every Mario & Luigi game prior had new interesting stuff, and the first three Paper Mario games had that too. Unfortunately, I found out that Nintendo put so much restriction on Intelligent Systems that they couldn't make ANY original characters that had long term effects on the Paper Mario universe, meaning that any and all new characters are fated to die or never be mentioned again. So when Paper Mario crossed over with M&L, those restrictions were likely forced on AlphaDream as well. For what it's worth though, Paper Jam ended being a good yet generic game in the end.
running gag or not Starlow is a trash character, at least she spends most of games collecting dust in Mario's pocket. She's like one of those people that tries to force themselves into your friend group and thinks they can start making fun of everyone like they do to each other, completely overdoing it as well.
Dude really luigi running gag is getting old on you 40th sin
Which Game do you think is better? Paper Jam, Or Dream Team?
Objectively speaking, Dream Team, but I like Paper Jam more.
Man that game was my paper jam when I was younger. And I still make better puns than Charii!
You know I may be the only one to say this but that's because I watched the original videos but uh..... You do that your videos can easily get EWW treatment too, like dude half of your points doesn't even make sense!
Okay. Examples? You can’t just say that and expect me to roll with it. Tell me where I fumbled, and I’ll gladly debate it with you.
This video just showed up in my recommended. Paper jam (despite its flaws) is legitimately my favorite of the mario and luigi games. Its not the best (that would be bowser's inside story), but there are so many things that I like better about paper jam. That is where I stand.
Also Shiny robo bowser is phenomenal.
13:28 if you think HE'S bad, you're NOT going to like Meta527II. Some of his sins make Chariii's look reasonable!
Oh I know about him. In fact, I’m actually subscribed to him. Granted, there are a good chunk of his sins that are really stupid, but I’d say equal amounts make sense. Plus, he’s a lot more willing to give credit where credit is due; so I mostly give him a pass. Maybe someday I’ll get DT to do a sub-series on him, but right now, I’m focusing on Charriii5.
@@tonysonic456 yeah, I can't take the guy seriously. Dude really sins games by making stupid references to properties that came out AFTER the game ("This pokemon trainer in this 2009 game is named Callie but her partner isn't named Marie? Better sin that!"), or points out something good the game did and then sins it for something people irl would do ("How nice of this game to explain why Pokémon hide in the tall grass and accept being being trained by humans. Too bad some people are going to say that this is a bad answer for some reason, so I gotta sin the game because of those hypocrites!"), and the list just goes on. But the last straw for me was him calling the Ultra Necrozma fight a bad fight because of its difficulty, when that is literally one of the main reasons people like it. Dude probably wants every Pokémon game to be XY levels of easy, and if SwSh's Ultra Necrozma equivalent wasn't proof that is complete bs I don't know WHAT is!
@@DarthMolgy I hear you. I'm not a Pokemon fan, but something like that can't stand. Even worse, there are moments like in the Dream Team video where he just says something and expects us to just go with it. And then there's his thoughts on Dreamy Bowser. Apparently he "wanted to remove five sins for its epic theme" which he should, but decided to give it five sins just because several of Bowser's actions "don't feel like a final boss" even though it's Bowser we're talking about. You know what? That sub-series might actually happen.
@@tonysonic456 not to mention he sinned the fact that Bowser betrayed Antasma instead of the other way around, when that was one of the coolest twists in the game.
@@DarthMolgy That too. It marked a time when Bowser started becoming smarter and more threatening.
20:00 this happend to me and I kinda feel offended
I had to help mom she was on the floor
Yeah i take it back this is the worst one but its not bad its not engaging but its still decent i guess
Uh dude starlow has been here since the 3ds remake of superstar saga because there’s a campaign in the bowser’s minions mode where you unlock her and put her on you’re team but first you have to save her from a stupid crab who’s dumb and doesn’t understand stuff
That was a retroactive rewrite. Plus, she wasn’t in Partners in Time.
Oh yeah I forgot sorry about that it’s because I haven’t played partners in time yet bruh because I don’t own a physical copy of it yet anyway because I’ll probably ask Santa to get me it for Christmas bruh
2:03 oh he gets the joke. He just doesn’t find it funny.
It’s the 5th time in a row for this gag
21:41 I dont get this one chari didn't even say anything
This is one of those instances where Charriii uses what the characters say as his own point.
4:06
A lot is wrong with that sentence alone
Super Paper Mario: Mr L
Color Splash you NEED him to get to the final level
the first two and Sticker Star I get but still
Origami King he gives you keys you need to progress
I already mentioned Super Paper Mario, and at the time of Paper Jam’s release, Color Splash wasn’t even out yet.
@@tonysonic456 my point was even if it's not shown, both regular and Paper Luigi are very capable of stuff, even if you don't know they did stuff.
So the Paper Toad shouldn't be able to say that.
Do Everything Wrong With: Charriii5’s EWW: Paper Mario: Color Splash.
It’s on my list.
@@tonysonic456 ok good. Tell him how wrong he is about the magma burger and the restaurant.
Well if this is how you handle this video I think you will love and hate charriii5 everything wrong with super smash bros brawl and his everything wrong with puyo puyo tetris videos. Still good video
I've seen all three of those videos. EWW Super Smash Bros. Brawl is incredibly annoying, but that's a really old Charriii video. That's to be expected. His Puyo Puyo Tetris videos I don't remember too well. I'll get around to those eventually.
@@tonysonic456 I understand I probably recommend the brawl video as it was the first video I saw of charriii so it a favorite of mine. Still if you do do videos on puyo puyo tetris videos I'm looking forward to it. Keep up the good work
Surprise Paper Jam is the worst one, because of no bonus points when leveling up, the change to the speed stat, the slow and weaker Trio attacks (albeit a few are decent), papercraft battles honestly suck ass (Papercraft King Boo sucks the most) but I will admit the final boss is actually pretty good to be honest which is coming from a game I actually don't like, although for bowsers trio move it literally doesn't telegraph when bowsers gonna fake you out, and Paper Mario is kinda useless for the final fight not completely but you cant use Trio moves when bowser's armor is on, and its funny because apparently this game was gonna have a "Paper World" similar to the dream world gimmick form dream team which is just sad this game gets a 6.2/10
still a decent game though but it couldve been special
Shiny RoboBowser actually does telegraph when he’s going to fake you out. It’s whenever he looks straight up that he does it. Also, I like the Papercraft battles. Sure, the Giant Battles are better, but the Papercraft Battles are good too.
Also paper Mario also been hit by lightning and fell from space and Luigi got yeeted into the air
Paper Mario's fall nearly killed him; so Luigi and Paper Mario's durability are different.
Yes because of Mario logic
Also make sense
Ok a good
Tony is a terrible person for defending luigi abuse.
You're wrong about this Game not being able to utilize Paper Luigi. Remember Partners in Time?
Your argument is invalid.
I’m not having a debate with someone who’s just like, “No, you’re wrong. F*k you!” Come back when you’re a grown up.
@@tonysonic456
When was I rude? When I made the statement "Your argument is invalid"?
Look buddy, it's one Thing to say that I'm wrong,but to say that I'm telling you "F#&k you, dude", when I didn't (or at least I wasn't trying to) is childish in it of itself.
If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Don't make such Immature Assumptions. For someone telling me to grow up, perhaps you should do that yourself.
@@yazmenakamura6750 Look, I explained why Paper Luigi probably wouldn't have made the game better. He has little relevance in his own series and would've made the combat more cumbersome. You bring up Partners in Time, but so did I. Even though I got used to Partners in Time's controls, several others found it awkward as hell. This would be even worse. Also, it was telling me I'm wrong, giving one flimsy answer, AND saying my argument is invalid that got me to say what I said.
@@tonysonic456
Like I said, saying I'm wrong or disagreeing with me is fine. I just expect you to handle it maturely as well.
Was I a Smartass with that Argument Invalid remark? Maybe. Also, I didn't realize you did bring up Partners in Time until after I posted the Comment and resumed the video. Another Mistake on my end. However, I still stand that making Paper Jam likrPartners in Time would've made it better. Even if you and maybe other People disagree, it's still my Opinion.. Agree to disagree, right?
@@yazmenakamura6750 I guess we can agree to disagree. Thing is, I do try to handle things like this more maturely, but when you open with something like that, it comes off as bitching. And I don't really tolerate bitching in the comments section.
6:51 best sin of the episode
You like him calling Charriii a pervert? Dishonor on you, and dishonor on your cow.
@@DKCGaming339 this was just funny, something wrong?
@@volvoman5262 Yes there is something wrong! You think Tony calling Charriii a pervert is funny?!
@@DKCGaming339 " I swear these %#&-jokes are gonna kill me someday" this line was just funny, chill out bro
@@DKCGaming339 have you seen my comment?
i love "thats the joke"
Yeah the worst in the series probably definitely not a bad game no doubt but the game had so much potential and the story is uninteresting and new, and the papercraft battles suck ass (but in no way a bad game, it just... exists)
and the game feels a bit rushed as well since its glitchy as hell (not as bad as like oh god that one game in 2006 that we don't speak of) but you can legit beat the game in an hour
@@susiehaltmann3342 In my opinion, glitches don't, or rather shouldn't, count if you have to try to execute them. After all, the only reason they exist is because you made them.
@@tonysonic456 yeah thats why I said not as bad because you'll never run into them on a normal playthrough
29:15 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IS FAWFUL DEAD OR NOT?!
Yep, he's dead, and so is Dimentio.
@@tonysonic456 then why did you say that
@@susiehaltmann3342 I said bring back in the sense of bringing them back to life.
2:04 😄 Ok, random funny Spanish, then.
4:15 An entertaning Cameo, but still, just a Cameo.
23:43 Uh, their bullfeces? Wait, why did you 2 said "Your BS"? I mean, you could go with "No, it's not BS, it's extremelly believable!", but, no, you went with this confusing pair of words.(😵)
@@rafaelpereiragomes1735 I mostly meant that as a joke. They're bullshit for refusing to believe something crazy in an already cartoonish world.
@@tonysonic456 Well, jokes that end up being confusing to people don't work for them, and they don't find them funny. This is probably a bad example, but, if you watch The Loud House(which you probably don't, that's why it's probably a bad example.), some of Luan's jokes actually end up being confusing, and i don't laugh at them. They aren't as annoying as the jokes that i understand, but i don't laugh at them(i mean, not all of jokes on the latter category annoy me.), but, you know, they confuse me. And i can get annoyed by this confusion. Just like Equals Peach(you probably didn't watch that video either. 🤦🏾♂️ for myself!), i don't like confusion. My life is already confusing. On YT, there are some comments that i find confusing. I'm very vulnerable to confusion, by the looks of it. If i got confused inside PMTTYD, i would probably be with that status effect for 4 turns.(or more.) There is a channel that was originally called Lana Loud(it got changed to Lightning Sonic or something.), and her older videos were pretty confusing. If you check the comment section on those videos, you will find me probably asking something about those videos that i didn't understand. Here you go. I think that's everything i need to say.(how many times am i going to say that?)
@@rafaelpereiragomes1735 Well, looking at the comments, almost everyone here understood the joke. Only a couple people didn’t.
6:48